The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 3 - USC

Episode Date: November 30, 2021

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We'll get to the Michigan thrashing of Ohio State, which was wow. What a scene that was. Woo! That was amazing. All right, let's start with this. Lincoln Riley to USC, and I heard some sooner fans saying, hey, Lincoln, and Riley, his teams are a little soft. And I'm like, well, they always run the ball really well.

They're not just a passing offense. It starts with the run game. So what do you make of him coming to SC? What will they look like and how long will it take? I think he's going to make them in his image. It'll look a lot like what OU looked like. I think that his biggest challenge is going to be finding the right combination on the offensive line as far as the immediate challenge.

You know, because his system is. run oriented and they're more successful and have been more successful when they can run it efficiently. And that was part of their downfall, if you want to call it that, this year at Oklahoma, is that they didn't run it as dominantly as they have in the past. Was one of their weaker lines? It was. They hadn't quite developed it. It just wasn't. It was one of those years that you caught it perfectly and they just weren't as dominant as what they have been over the last few. But that's what he's going to be trying to do at USC and he'll be able to do that. This is so fascinating to me because it makes not just USC, but the West Coast relevant in college football.

Right. It has been, and everyone, you know, like the PAC 12 people, they are on eggshells all the time about just the overarching stature of their conference, you know, and they're just so anxiety-ridden about getting credit or being at the, here's the bottom line. This conference has been somewhat irrelevant for the better part of a decade, outside of a couple of years where Marcus Marioato was great or Peterson made a run with Washington. But outside of that, it has not been good. And this makes not only USC, but the entire footprint relevant. And I think that the dominoes that we see from this over the next couple of years are going to

be substantial. If you look around college football right now, folks, you've got players and impactful ones all over the country that are from the PAC 12 footprint, not just Southern California, although a lot of them are from Southern California, but the footprint. Just think of just the top end. I mean, C.J. Stroud and Crystal Lave at Ohio State. They also got the number one wide receiver in the country out of the Seattle area in Emeka, Abuka last year. They got the number one defensive end out of the country out of the Seattle area and JT. Tuimolo. That's just Ohio State. You've got Bryce Young at Alabama. You've got, let's see, Spencer Rattler was an Arizona kid. He was at Oklahoma.

You've got Bejohn Robinson, one of the best running backs. He was an Arizona guy. You've got DJ O Young Glele. They're all littering college football. If you were to talk with top line coaches in 2007, 8, 9, you know what they would have said about like, hey, are you going to go recruit that kid in L.A.? Why? It's not worth my time. There's a fence built around the L.A. area and the Southern California area because Pete's

not letting that kid go. That's right. And Urban Meyer said I wouldn't even attempt to come in Southern California. Ed Orgeron told me once they used. used to laugh when they would go to high school games and see Ohio State and Michigan out here. They would laugh. Right, because they had no chance. You have no shot to get any of the best players.

So if they can do that, and that's an if, right? Because those programs are great programs, certainly, and have a lot of momentum going right now. But if they can do that, what they will quickly establish is a marquee top-end college football presence on the West Coast, which we haven't had for the better part of a decade. And I think that's important for the sport as a whole. Yeah. All right. Brian Kelly to LSU.

It's funny. I hear this. You know, it's a weird fit. And I'm like, win 11 games. It's not weird. Well, he's going to win games. He is going to win games. Listen, he's a really good coach.

He's a great coach. I'll go in the great category. I think Brian Kelly is a great coach. Culturally, it's a completely different environment, Notre Dame and LSU. So is Oklahoma and L.A. Oklahoma and L.A. Folks, does it really? really matter when someone puts $100 million in front of you if it's the best fit?

I don't think it does. I don't think it does. I think he was 100% honest with everybody in the room a while back when he said, listen, unless there's a fairy godmother and my wife and I have a conversation about some blank check, yeah, I'm going to be at Notre Dame. That wasn't a lie. And the fairy godmother happened to be wearing purple and yellow. And folks, every one of us is for sale. You might not want to hear that, but it's true. Every single one of us that are listening are for sale in our careers. Colin, you were for sale, Joy, I'm for sale.

That's just the nature of it. And guess what happens? There's two reasons why that's not going to happen for you or won't happen for you. You're either not valuable enough to leverage that for sale. or two, you have some contractual obligation that prevents you from going in that direction. That's it. That's it. Or else everybody is for sale. So if you get that contract, you're moving too. So cast the first stone if you're the one that's not going to move. Okay? Yeah. When I go to Twitter and people rip people from moving, I'm like, oh, so you're not talented enough to get offers.

Because Chris Rock, a man is loyal as his options. You're as loyal as your options. That's a great philosopher, Chris Rock. Man's as loyal as his options. The other aspect of that, though, is the contractual piece. So let me just for a moment. College football is broken. Lincoln Riley just admitted to me upstairs. I sat with him.

You can go, you can check out the interview. I know he sat with you as well. And I asked him, I said, listen, is it discouraging that you have to make this decision within this structure, which then makes you out to be the bad guy for doing exactly what everybody else would do? Yeah. And yes, that's the problem. structure of the sport is totally broken because, as I've argued on this show several times, we don't have an overarching entity that's looking out for the hole. So everybody acts in their

own best interest in college football, period. By the way, that was boxing in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and why the UFC emerged is that boxers were just about Don King cared about Don, Bob Aram cared about Bob, and that was the, but this is a day to celebrate college football. No, but I am. I'm telling you that if this, if this, if this, is not how you want it to happen. And I don't think even – Brian Kelly doesn't want to do it this way. Lincoln-Wryly doesn't want to do it this way. So all you have to do is create more of an NFL model

where you have tampering periods and you have structure to the sport. Put guardrails on the schedule of the sport. There should be no early recruiting period where you're signing guys in the early December because this is the product of that. You fire guys in September and you've got to hire them before December. That's why this went down the way it did. It's not Lincoln Riley's fault. It's not Brian Kelly's.

That's right. The early signing period. USC had to get a coach in in 48 hours. I mean, that's the way it is. Oh, okay. So it's a really good year for candidates. By the way, Urban Meyer said today, and I know Urban well enough, I've been saying this for months. He's like, I'm not going back to college football. It ain't happening.

No. I've done it twice. I'm out. I got my money. So Urban's not going back. Matt Rule, Kingsbury, we'll see. But let's talk Oklahoma and let's talk Notre Dame. I think it's still.

I think Luke fickle, is it. an unbelievable candidate. I think Matt Campbell's an unbelievable candidate. I do worry that Marcus Freeman, your first job being Notre Dame. That would be tough. It's a hard, most first time Notre Dame coaches have not worked. It's a labyrinth of hurdles to jump over. I could see Marcus Freeman being the interim coach for Notre Dame. And I could see he and Fickle switching in the offseason. And Marcus Freeman gets his first opportunity with Cincinnati because that job opened because Luke Fickle took the Notre Dame job. Does that make sense?

I also think that for Oklahoma, I think that Matt Campbell fits well there, folks. I mean, he understands the Big 12, knows how to win in the Big 12. He knows how to develop. I like Matt Campbell there a lot. Brent Venables is a guy that I think would be wildly popular, in particular with the former players at Oklahoma, having been the defensive coordinator there a while back. So I think Brent Venables is a great candidate for Oklahoma or Matt Campbell. I think those are home runs, by the way.

And I think that they can continue to move forward and be quality programs. Okay. So, you know, you never want to be recency bias and you don't want to overreact. But when I watch Michigan, just 1988 roll over Ohio State, I said to myself, it doesn't mean they're going to win every year. But what they've established is, for the first time in Harbaugh's reign, is an identity. They've always had great old linemen. They've always had good backs.

And I watched that game and I'm like, I'm not saying you're going to duplicate that in Columbus. us. But that looked like Michigan football. Like we are, we're going to have four NFL first round O linemen. We can get that now. We're going to have an NFL tight end, an NFL back. We may not have the corners that Alabama does.

But can you stop our run? Can you deal with us at the line of scrimmage? In cold weather. I mean, first of all, the scene was incredible. That was the best environment I've ever been at in any sport, any level. It was absolutely phenomenal. I

that the crowd was great, the snow added to it, obviously, and they did exactly what they needed to do. Ohio State came into this game with a lot of confidence. There's no doubt about that, but they were banged up on defense, in particular at linebacker, and they had to play in the last quarter with basically a nickel defense on the field at all times. And guess what Josh Gattis did from Michigan? He said, I see your structural deficiency. Nickel defense, meaning you only have two linebackers and five DBs. And he said, I see your structural deficiencies. And on the last, drive, they didn't throw a pass. This is a huge credit to Josh Gattis, the offense coordinator, who was a Broils Award

finalist for the top assistant in college football, because he understood what was on the field and what was happening, and he said to himself, I don't even need to put the ball in harm's way. I can just go out there and run the football right down the field, and they were able to do that. That was a great identity, like you said. And what's so fascinating for me is that Jim Harbaugh, who had to chase a few things during this tenure at Michigan, he kind of chased defense.

I got to get Don Brown to stop Ohio State, and then that didn't work. So he gets Mike McDonald. And then he chased Josh Gaddis to go to the spread offerings, and then he had to marry it back to. You know what that was? Stanford beating USC in the calls. That's what he went back to like what made him great to begin with. That's exactly what it was. It was incredible.

Just the physical domination at the line of scrimmage. All these, you know, it's funny about all this stuff. So y'all wanted Harbaugh gone. You all wanted Brian Kelly gone. Our phones have made us so impatient. I won't read the article. I just want the headline. That's right.

You've got to win today. All you Brian Kelly critics and Harbaugh critics, you must have a power outage in your hometown because I didn't see a tweet this weekend. Can we give these coaches? Davos Sweeney took four years. At Clemson. Chip Kelly won eight games.

They're football stadiums 45 minutes up the road. These fans are nuts. Nuts. And I think that's one of the benefits. I know this is crazy saying this. This is one of the benefits in these ADs doing such horribly one-sided contracts with their coaches. Because these contracts are so one-sided, folks. When you actually see the language and the fine print,

they can leave anytime they want speaking of the coaches. And the schools would have to buy out for $50, $60, $70 million, right? I mean, it's a wild one-sided. But what we're going to start getting is less of that, less of like, well, we're just going to make a move. Because no one's going to be like, let's write a $75 million checker. an $80 million check. That's not going to happen. So at least with some of these 10-year contracts, like Mel Tucker got a Michigan state or now, as reported with LSU and potentially USC, at least you're going to have this thing where it's like, he's going to be here for five years.

He can be here for six years. Because guess what? Even after year six, Mel Tucker, and James Franklin got a 10-year deal. You know James Franklin, if they try to fire him after year six in this contract, they have to pay him $32 million. After six years, that's how one-sided these contracts are. But at least you'll get some patience now because it's like you can't do anything. Hey, if Fox fires me tomorrow, I got a can of salted peanuts and a bus past El Paso. My contract is iron clad. Okay, Clatt, let me look at your top ten. Aren't they unveiling the playoff thing tonight?

Tonight, yes, normally I'm in on Wednesday, but we had Lincoln in town in the building, so I had to come in on a Tuesday. Let's see Clats top. Let me just, let me judge this. There's my top ten. Please do. Live. Judge. Judge away.

You're going to like it. I would have it. I would have Oklahoma State above Notre Dame, otherwise I love it. Okay. You could argue me into that position? No, Joy is my witness. I said three weeks ago, Oklahoma State's the most underrated team in the country. I would have Oklahoma State 6, Oklahoma State 5, Notre Dame 6,

and I'm totally okay with that. Yeah, people were after me about Utah and oh, they've lost many. But if you've watched Utah over the last few weeks, they're absolutely a top 10 team or at least playing that way. Listen, Cincinnati beat Notre Dame. I've said this before. I think Georgia, Michigan, Alabama, I don't have any argument. Cincinnati, listen, they beat Notre Dame at Notre Dame.

I got no argument. I mean, you can't say much about it. So here is what's going to happen, though. If you don't have any argument, then let's lay out what the path forward is. Georgia's win or lose, and you're probably in this week. Michigan, you're winning in. Alabama winning in. Michigan will beat Iowa.

I was a little worried. Oh, of course you're going to say that. No, no, no, I don't hate Iowa. Yes. No, no, no. Iones, you know exactly what I'm talking about. I was there one time and had... One time. Well, listen, I'm a very busy man with a lot of options.

I flew over at one time and I looked down and it was gorgeous. I am not anti-Iowa. Iowa, there it is. But as America's honesty broker, you can't throw out that fake ID. I'm a bouncer. I'm like, I'm sorry. That's not a driver's license. Get out of here.

We have established that they are past the fake ID stage. Well, they still carry it with them, though. Occasionally about twice a year, they've got to pull it out and get wiped. Anyone worth their salt knows that once you had a fake ID, and once you graduated out of that, you got rid of it quickly. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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I thought Wisconsin matched up better, but Iowa beat it. I agree with that. I agree with that. Iowa just, I don't know what they can bring to the table offensively, but that defense is sound and they can turn the ball over. Michigan's playing for a playoff spot. Cincinnati's playing for a playoff spot. I think if Oklahoma State wins, I think Oklahoma State goes. Now, I love recruiting. I know you do. Love it.

And I almost jumped in the car with Lincoln Riley today. Do you think, I swear to God, I would have if Joy wasn't here? He did ask him if he could go. I know. I heard. I heard. I love it. But let me just be a little bit of a homer because I only have one team left in America I care about emotionally USC. Let me ask you this. How do you go to a kid? Let's say I'm a big left tackle. Okay. Well, USC could use one of those. I'm a big left tackle and I committed Oklahoma and you're the coach. And then you've got to call me because USC, you're now a sooner, but how do you wiggle that phone call and I go to USA? It's very easy.

I say, I'm Lincoln. I say, yo, you committed to me. You committed to me because of two reasons. I am going to help you win championships and go to the NFL. That's why you committed to me. Well, that sounds a little much. I don't think it is. I'm more humble than that.

No, actually, you're not. I'm America's honesty broker. You're welcome America. I don't know if I could say that. I don't know if I could say that. What? I don't think Colin could say that, actually. You're committed to me.

It's true. That's what college football is. I couldn't say that to a kid. You don't commit to the logo? You don't commit to the facility. That's a big fallacy, folks. You commit to the coaching staff. All right.

You might not say it that way. Maybe that's why I'm not a coach. I couldn't. You know what? You could say that. I couldn't say it to a kid. You committed to me. You committed to me.

Let's follow me and let's do something great. It sounds better out of your mouth. It just wouldn't sound. good to me. I sound like a used car salesman. He wants some breaks for that Chrysler? During commercial breaks. That's why I tell Gus. Gus, you committed to me. No. He would slap me.

All right, buddy. Great seeing you. You as well. Joy, great to see you. Hope you guys had a great holiday. What a great weekend. That scene, by the way. Oh, the best. It's unbelievable. I love. I didn't even go to Michigan. My wife's from there. It was good. If you love the sport, not just your favorite team, it was good for the sport.

It was great. It was good. Did you see the Time cover? No. Google it right now, everybody, the Time magazine cover. What is it? It's a shot of Michigan Stadium with 100,000 people on the field. It's incredible.

I saw it on some social media. By the way, did all the Woki people say it's a super spreader or something, or is it a nice thing to say? Didn't hear the Woki people. Well, you know. Fouchy was in the back having convulsions. If you go watch a sporting event, you go, you know, the whole world.

My goodness. I hope they were nice to Michigan fans. Great American sports fans. It was just, listen, everything about Saturday was true Americana, whether it was the game that I was at, Bedlam later that night,

the Iron Bowl, all of it. All of it was incredible. Those are classy fans at Michigan. They're classy. Okay. I like Michigan. I had a guy come up to me, he had a sweet mustache after the game.

I just thought, you know what? That's a sweet mustache. You say that to you? I did. And did you say, you were committed to me? Did you say that to him? because that makes me uncomfortable.

He said something about like, hey, make sure to, you know, keep your son in line on Wednesdays. And I was like, no problem. I'll tell Colin. Good to see you, buddy. You too. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I Heart Radio app.

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Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast.

It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

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This is the herd line news. Well, LeBron James might be the owner of an NBA team soon. So it's the way how. So Fenway Sports Group, an LLC in which LeBron is a partner, reached an agreement to acquire a controlling interest of the Pittsburgh Penguins. So Axios reported that the group could would also like to buy an NBA team once it finishes up at sale of requiring the penguins. And they expect to target a franchise in 2022. This is from Dan Primac of Axios. So the group already owns Red Soxxiex and Liverpool FC of the English Premier Leave.

Now, the NBA's CBA agreement does generally prevent current players from owning an NBA team. Yeah, I thought that. From owning portions of the NBA or WMBA. But Article 29, Section 11 of the agreements, says that players can hold an ownership of publicly traded securities constituting less than 5% of the ownership interest in a company or entity that directly or indirectly owns an NBA team. So there is a tiny loophole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, by the way, business. He said his goal is to own an NBA franchise and it will be sooner than later.

Owners use loopholes all the time in their taxes and business. So can a player? You think the billionaire owners have loopholes all over their businesses? Well, he'll be 37 on December 30th. He's in 19th NBA season. He's been a part of this group for a while. And, you know, it's not done yet, but they have made it clear that that's their next goal and what they're going to acquire next year.

This is happening. You got, you have, you know, as you get this, sports right now is the only on team. TV. I mean, literally, a live... It's sports and politics. That's it. That's it. And maybe a live news event. All right? Like sports politics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, because of that, all advertisers want to be on sports. And because of that, there's more money for leagues and players get a share of the leagues.

And this is what's going to happen, folks. We're going to have more. When Michael Jordan bought a team, he had to go through a tunnel of nonsense to get there. You can now play. And if you're great for 15 years, you can join a group. maybe on a team. This is the way it should work. For the greatest of the great, Derek Jeter, you should be able to be part of an ownership. Yeah, there's always like this hyperbolic reaction to these things. Like now LeBron's going to have interest. Like, LeBron has, I'm sure, ownership in lots of companies that you don't know about.

Like, he's a pretty wealthy guy. And he has an interest in being an owner at some point. And he's been a part of this group for a while. I tried to buy an MLS team, a small share. eight years ago. I couldn't afford it. I'm, you know, so I can't shoot a basketball. Maybe I could own an MLS team. But I try, I mean, by the way, could I not and talk about it on the air?

Like, it's just the reality of sports now. There's all these opportunities. Why do business people get all the breaks and athletes can't get any of them? Give me a break. No, and athletes of the LeBron Brady level that are bringing in that kind of money want to invest in something that they know a thing or two about. By the way, do you know what Kevin Durant going to the Brooklyn Nets raised the net worth of that franchise by $150 million, just him going?

So the owner gets it. Will you pay Kevin? No, he's just an employee. So, I mean, to me, I think down the line, you should be allowed to give like 1% of your team to a star player. Yeah, I don't think I disagree with that. Like, LeBron, the amount of money that LeBron brought in, not just to the organization in Cleveland,

but the city of Cleveland, that area downtown, like the businesses. I think if you are, if you are, I don't know how you would, you know, arbitrarily come up with this number,

but if you are someone that powerful, if you are Tom Brady going to Tampa, if you're LeBron going back to Cleveland, if you're KD going to Brooklyn, and there's a quantifiable, measurable jump in the value of that organization. upon your arrival. Maybe some like dividends or something is appropriate.

Steph Curry owns a little bit of the Warriors. That seems fitting to me, doesn't it? Yeah, or you just, you know, you get some sort of bonus or something. But like, people are going to freak out that we're saying this. But if you're that powerful of a star, if you're that big of a face of an organization and you're driving that much. And you're driving that much revenue. Why wouldn't you?

Yeah. It's not really like an employee situation. He's not like really like punching a clock. So Aaron Rogers told reporters after Sundays went over the Rams. that he was deciding whether or not to have surgery on his injured toe, which, by the way, we have, we've really had a lot of Aaron Rogers foot talk going back to that random guy that got pegged as Aaron Rogers. Yeah, no kidding.

I'm done talking about his feet. And then I've got to see Aaron Rogers' toes and is it COVID toe. I mean, enough with Aaron Rogers' foot. But NFL Network reported yesterday that he has decided against having surgery at this time. So he has a bi-week now, which is great for him because now he can rest the toe and hopefully it'll heal and improve. Matt LaFlor said he didn't know if Rogers is, holding off on having surgery as reported and that he was still gathering information on what he was

going to do. And he's also unsure of the time frame for this particular injury to heal. So there's a lot going on with this particular injury, but he's clearly playing through it and doing an amazing job. You know what? You know what's amazing when you watch, Aaron? He's got this incredible arm. He's six one and a half, 220. Like Josh Allen's arm, you're like, yeah, I get it. Or Big Ben's arm. The ability to derive such a lot of power and whip and torque. Like Brady's almost 6.5 and 235. When you watch Aaron throw

like without pads. Yeah. I mean, I'm 6-2-196 today, if I have a brownie. He's 15 pounds heavier than me. I couldn't throw. Just the ability to his torque and his power, it's fat. I'm going to say something that's very obvious. Professional athletes are built different.

All right, whatever. Their DNA is different. from ours. Yeah. It's just, they just are. Here's a story that's never been done. So Fox executives do this story.

I want a story on Aaron Rogers and where his power comes from to throw the football. He throws it backpedaling. He throws everything off his back foot. Now, if you're Cam Newton, I get it. You're 6-6-250. The ability, the physiology of Aaron being able to throw the ball that accurately, that fast, that frame is crazy.

I'm going to tell you, he would disagree. It's God. Or like the universe, cloud person, whatever, you know, the energies, crystals, whatever it is that you're into, that's where it comes from. Like, if you are around a professional athlete, you can be the exact same size, but, like, they're just different. Like, he's getting hit by 300-pound men who are running full speed at his head and he can then lift himself off the ground

and then continue to perform with the same physical capacity he did before he was hit. I'm not comparing him. I'm no, no, no, no, I know you're not, but I'm saying, like, this is why they're capable of doing that. Like, it's just, just different. That's why they're 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the 1%. It's crazy. It is. It's got the crazy, like Dan Marino had a great, the only arm I've seen like Aaron that, and it may not be able to throw the ball the furthest, just the whip of it is Marino.

But Reno was a huge man. I mean, think about this, 30 years ago, Dan was 6.25-235. Yeah. So, I mean, by today's standards, he'd be like 6-7-2-4. 45. We're just bigger people. Aaron's crazy. It's just a crazy ability. Yeah. For the last three games, he's been injured. He has a 64.3 completion percentage,

984 yards, six passing touchdown and one interception. He's also rushed for a touchdown as well. Really incredible. So they have a buy, which is really good for them. And then they face the Bears in week 14. So finally, plenty of teams are in the playoff hunt, not the Lions. And head coach Dan Campbell says he would like to make some other teams feel some pain. All right. We got six to go, and we're playing spoiler now.

I mean, we're trying to run people's day is what we're trying to do. And so, you know, how do we improve on the things that we've done a good job of and make it a little bit better, and then certainly the things that continue to show up? How do we help? But I think now it's, man, it's all about, you know, how do we make these last six opponents? kind of have to deal with what we've dealt with for the season. That's the message. That's all you got to do at this point.

He does seem like a nice guy. They play hard. They've got six games left, Vikings, Broncos, Cardinals, Falcons, Seahawks, Packers. Oh, they're going to win a game in there. Packers may rest all their starters. Yes, week 18. If I'm a one or a two seed, and I'm Green Bay, which has dealt with injuries all year, I am resting everybody.

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