The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Vince Wilfork

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

Covino & Rich, in for Colin Cowherd, talk with 2x Super Bowl Champion Vince Wilfork about his memories in playing in the Big Game. Covino is beside himself that the Mavericks would offer refunds to season ticket holders after trading Luka. Plus, one MLB All-Star is picking up the pickleball racket! #crshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But it's a pleasure bringing you into the room where it happens. We're here at the convention center. There's a buzz in the air. And we're just pumped, man. Just to look around. I saw Paige Sparantic again. Don't do that again. I saw a Bricer.

You know, we're waving at people. We saw Jake Glazer walking by. It's just a... The Gronk was over there. It's nice to bump into people on and off the air. It's very, very, very cool to be here. Now, listen, earlier today, caught up with a really good dude.

And when I say a really good dude, I assume dude would have a fun time talking to him, but Vince Wilfork, a guy that's been to four Super Bowls, one of the greatest defensive players of our lifetime. New England Patriot, we love them, and we want you to hear it. So this is our hang earlier today with Vince Wilfork on the herd.

Kavino and Rich. It's Kavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. We are joined by two-time Super Bowl champion. And y'all, 516 tackles, one of the greatest nose tackles of all time. Vince Wilford. What's the intro? What's going on? Man, that's pretty cool.

You like that? I feel good. Nice. You should. I'm going to do with you guys. Yeah, man, looking good, too. Thank you. Thank you.

You know, I'm looking at your stats. And, again, 516 tackles, one defensive TD. Do you still think about that one? Tell us about that one. Man, that one, I fell on the ball in the end zone. But still. Yeah, it's a touchdown. It's still there.

In a touchdown. Right? Yeah, that's what it was. I mean, I was on the bottom of the pile, and it took by five minutes for everybody to get off me. Is that scary, man, where you're the guy underneath? But you know what? I never thought about it when I was up underneath there. I was like, because, you know, got the face mask, and I was just face down, like, oh, and I'm telling everybody, I got the ball, Wilford, got the ball.

Got the ball. I was just having fun and making jokes about it. I got the ball, Ralph, I got the ball, Wilford. That scares the hell out of me. I mean, if you're claustrophobic at all, and all those big dudes are piled on you, that's not a fun moment. I mean, you've got to touch that,

but those moments being under the pile, not fun. But the thing is, if you, if you under the pile, be face down. Right. Don't face it. Like, no, you know, like that. Now, that would have creaked me out. Right, yeah, that would have been.

Face down, I couldn't see nothing but the ground. Other grown-ass man on top. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but. You try to figure, am I in the end zone? Right, yeah. I don't know, but I got the ball. I have the ball. By the way, Vince Wilfork,

no stranger to this week. Super Bowl week. I got to ask you about the highs and lows of a Super Bowl when you win or when you lose because of the games you've been in, they're all close. Like you're on the sideline thinking, oh crap, the Seahawks got us. You win. You're on the sideline thinking we got the Giants. They win. How are those emotions? Well, during the game, you just locked in. You know, even a Seattle game. It's like we, I always thought we had a shot in every game we played, no matter what it looked like, because of the Seattle game. of 12 and because of Bill Belichick. Right. Because, so I'll, you know, I always thought that way. So that Seattle game like the marching and all that stuff, it really didn't done on me

that we're just going to lose the game. Like, it is what it is. Because my mind said, okay, okay, what's can happen to is they score. We get a ball back to Tom and he'll do what he got to do in too many because, mind you, Tom torched him up what, oh, with 350 yards passing the game. Yeah. So I wasn't worried about that. So when

you're in it, you don't really think about it. It's just like being in battle where no matter what's going on around, you have a job to do. You have to stay locked in and stay focused in what you're doing because anything is possible, right? And Malcolm ended up making that play, you know? And do you love him forever because of that play? Like, you've got to love him even more. That's a great football play. Like, you just have to chalk that up because 10 out of 10 times, it's incomplete. Right. You know, it's an incably ball. but for some reason, man, a good man was on our side with doubt, but a hell of a catch and a hell of a just, a hell of a football player.

And guess what? I was on the opposite end of that with the helmet catch. Yep. And with the scene route, no, the route that I think Mannyham against Eli 3rd and Long backed up on the sideline, cover two, perfect ball right on the sideline. So I was, trust me, I had it twice. Two, I lost and two I won. So it says you have to take it and you have to just chalk it up to a good football playing.

Those plays like that helmet catch, I mean, it is what it is. It's like 10 out of 10 times, incomplete. Right. You know, but that pass on the side, like that many through to Mannyham, whatever, that was covered two. Perfect thrown ball, perfect coverage, perfect catch, perfect location. Vince Wolfork, let's talk about the two wins. Again, you were with the Patriots from 04 to 2014. Then the Texans after that, what was the difference in Super Bowl wins?

I think you and Brady were the only two to win in 04 and 14, two different decades. So what were the difference in wins? One earlier in your career, one later in your career. Well, I think the difference was one I was a rookie and one I was a veteran. You know, rookie I basically came in. Yeah, I played and all of that stuff. But that really wasn't my defense or my team. You know, I wasn't that, you know, I had others in front of me.

I was waiting my time. Not my last one, that was my team. Did you not feel as part of it, though, looking back? Yeah, because, I mean, I was a young buck. Like, I was a rookie, you know, I had guys around me that's been in the game for so long. Like, you know, I'm fable. I got Willie McGinnis and Bruskey and Ronnie Harrison. So I had guys around me that's been playing for, you know, good while that was their team and their deal.

So they were veterans. And you're sort of like cheering with them, cheering about. But you're still part of it. I'm still part of it, but the last one was that was my team. That was my defense. Those guys, I basically brung up. I helped them. I taught them.

You know, there was my linebackers. There was my secondary when I spoke. It was like I was like the big brother. You got a little taste of everything. You know, winning young, winning older, losing Super Bowl. Yeah, you got a little bit of everything. When you watch like a documentary Man in the Arena, Tom Brady, do you get emotional watching those old highlights when it's all in slow motion? they tell like an emotional story along with the games.

Well, a lot of times we don't realize some stories behind things, you know, and watching stuff like that, he's like, man, we did that. Like, dang, like, ding, tell them you, like, it puts you in awe because you don't realize how great things were. Yeah. Until you retire and you look back on your career. Because you have to understand as you plan, it's go, go, go, go. I don't have time to reminisce on the play that I made.

You know, I don't got time to rebut. I don't have time to. reminisce on losing. Every week you have to go. But once you retire and sit back, and you be like, wow, we did that or, man, I did that, that's crazy. That's when you could kind of reminisce on your career, what it meant for you, the teammates you had, stuff like that, and be in certain situation.

You thought it was one thing, but you find out it was so much other stuff going on. He's like, man, I didn't have no clue, so it's bittersweet. You know, it's bittersweet, but it's always cool to look back and just realize what we accomplish over that span. When you see what Mahomes is doing right now, do you get defensive of 12 of Tom Brady? No. Or do you admire what Mahomes is done? I admire him. I admire him because, you know, Mahomes won me over last year when, you know, Chiefs was not looking like the Chiefs.

And, you know, they hit a stride and make Holmes game changed. And you see when his game changed, the team game change. He basically put that team on his back. He said, I'm going to get it. And I became a Mahomes fan, but 12 is 12. That's just what it is. That's just what it is. Yeah, he's different.

Speaking of Mahomes, you know, he's going for the three-piece, something that Brady hasn't done. But Jalen Hertz doesn't want to lose again, right? Especially to the Chiefs. You've lost in the Super Bowl. Can you tell us about the motivation factor? Rich and I have been arguing all week. I feel like both teams wanted.

He's like, the Eagles may want it more. It's not about that. I keep saying, what's a greater motivator to win again? Like, you've been fed already or haven't gotten one yet and you've lost. Like, what's a greater motivator? Losing or going for the three-peat? Losing. Because, you know, three-peak.

I mean, it's three-peak. Yes, cool. It's history and all that. But if I've lost the Super Bowl, I know that feeling. See, people don't understand. Tell us the feeling. I can never explain it to the point that you would get it because that's something you have to experience.

Losing a Super Bowl is the worst time in my career. You understand other team confetti hitting you. You're walking off the field. You got to go do media. You don't want to talk to media. You pissed off because everything you put into it. Losing a game of Super Bowl, it's like... Is it sort of like someone taking your girl in front of you and you have to watch?

You have to watch. You can't do nothing? That's it. You have to respect it. You know? So I always think losing is a bigger deal than three-peat because three-peat you got two already. And then you might not three-peep, but you might lose one and go.

You got a chance to do another. But you're losing, it's a big deal. It's a huge deal. So I think the Eagles looking at it in an aspect of, hey, we remember this feeling how we felt losing before. We don't want that feeling ever again. Like, we know, we don't want that feeling. And everybody's so focused on the three-pe.

And I'm like, yo, they're pretty motivated too. And they got Sequin Barclay. By the way, as a defensive legend, are you seeing how this guy looks unstoppable at times? I fell in love with Barclay. Listen, what he's done this year, I fell in love. I became, I don't know if you called me an Eagles fan or whatever it may be. But I fell in love with him.

Just the way he approaches the game. and I want them to win it for that, you know, before him, you know, and people doubting him or he's not the same and this, that or other. He came back and had a monster year, like one of the best years of running back and had in the history of this game. And he seems like a good dude. And he seems like a great guy. It seems like when you have a guy like that, it's easy to play and rally around a guy like, listen. And let's not talk about the Eagles their defensive front or their offensive front or their offensive. front like they have what it takes

to win they do they are I believe they're the most physical team I think they have more depth all on defensive line and they have playmakers on a defensive line that can ruin the game well as a defensive guy how would you stop him how would you

approach this Barclay everyone saying don't you can't bet against Mahomes but they're all saying you can't stop Sequin Barclay so how would you approach that man it's big boy game yeah because I can't I can't dedicate eight in the box. Yeah.

I can't because guess what? I have these guys on the outside. You got A.J. Brown, you got DeVantzum. So we have these guys, these playmakers on the outside, into my tight end and the back out of the back field. I can't do that. Because if you do that, I'm over the top. I got a speed that run of four one that can get down the field in two seconds.

Like, you're putting so much stress on your second. Like, no, you can't do that. So you're going to have to play smart, schematic. You're going to have to do some things differently. Show him some different looks, disguise. You know, you made me think of something. Speaking of doing things differently, I know it's always been a part of the game, but do you think there has been an increase in knocking the ball out, punching the football?

What are your thoughts on that? Are they taking boxing lessons? How are they so accurate in today's game knocking the ball out, punching it out? I think it's just practice more. Right? Yeah, they took something that was very successful and just implemented, and it just practices and practices. Because I just look at it as nowadays with NFL, you can't hit, you can't tell,

tackle certain type of way. So the most important thing in football is the ball. Right. Turnovers. So if I can't knock your head off, how can I get this ball? I can't hit you and get it off. So what else I get to say? Sometimes the accuracy is so impressive.

It's crazy. It's like a puncher. It's like a boxer. It's a whole new part of the game. Yeah, but me, I'll be like, man, I'm getting too close. I need to do something. But it's patient, patient, patient, you know.

It's a credit to the coaches that's coaching it, and it's credit to the players that's, taking that part of their game and elevated it because it makes a huge game Mike Tyson's going to be a football coach next Exactly Touch it out I'm working with the Raiders now

Yeah yeah yeah You know That's crazy I eat your face I just puts you out I love it Yeah Vince Wilfark I gotta ask you because you're here with

Kingsford right Yes yes yes So I'm here all week And we're having a Super Bowl party at my house When I get back to California And my wife said Babe this week while you're gone I want to buy a new smoker

and a new grill, and I want to experiment with new food for the party. And I'm like, babe, that's not the time to start taking you smoking meats or even if she's right. You should be taking on this task. No, no week before the Zimbled. But you know what? Look here, Keynes from making it very easy for you, but it. Kingsford is the choice of champions. Just get you some kings, but because, you know what?

You know, some people think grilling is just all about a seasonal thing. Really? And I cook all the time because it's the flavor, it's the smell, it's bringing people together, family friends and we was talking earlier just growing up going to the park and just having that a roman smell you knew what time it was so it is perfect time this is perfect time for you and your wife all right get keys for on board go get the keys for game day preparations and make but it makes it so so simple and easy because it just it brings so many people together food and football it's like amazing uh collab you know when it comes to that Vince I got to ask you what happens if someone

tries to man your grill. Can you take over another man's grill? That's a listen here, man. You've got to be pretty bald to make that. That's right up there how I feel about boiling ribs. Like, we don't do that. You don't touch my grill. You don't touch another man's radio.

You don't do that. So there's nobody come in peeking. Like, we're not doing that. That's fighting. Right, right, right. So I'm very, very protector over my grill and my setup and how I do things. Like, if standing house, I'll let you know

the food is done, you know. Speaking of the Kingsford stuff, too, you're working with Jason Kelsey. I'm just wondering what it's like working with this guy. He's so popular now. Is it crazy to see? Is it one of the Beatles or something? You know, it was cool. We had a good time having a – we had a great time on set, and an amazing, amazing guy, you know.

And I was happy to bring him on through the Kingsford Felling to teach him a little something, something about being the king of the grill, you know. So he's learning. He's almost there. Nice, nice. He'll probably tell you he's there. But, you know, we're. It's a work of progress, but I'm happy with him.

And we had a great time. It was Kingsford and Jason and myself like, man, we've done amazing things, you know, and hopefully we can continue to do this stuff and bring you guys some more goodness. I love it, man. A pleasure having you, Vince Wilfork. Thank you guys. What a good dude, man. Hey, we got more next Fox Sports Radio, Kavino and Rich.

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Did you see? Jazeel had a baby. No way. Yeah, her and the fitness instructor. The Jiu Jitsu dude. It's always the Jiu Jitsu guy or Chad at work? They had the baby and

I think the only thing they could be a real like gut punch would be fast forward 20 years. You mean a judo chop. Yeah, good one. Imagine this kid becomes a football star and Tom Brady's kids dump. That's the only

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And, Camino, I know there's so many things we want to get to. And we have two hours more later on today, like you said, on Fox Sports Radio. Filling in for Colin now. Yeah, again, I'm Steve Kavino. That is Rich Davis. Danny's getting ready for your herd line news. Danny G. Super producing. Thanks again to Bersh and Perfet back at the studio.

And thanks again to Travis Matthew for the sweet jacket I'm rocking today. That is a nice one. Yeah, but I want to know your thoughts on this. Actually, you brought this up to me, Rich. I feel like you forgot about it. I forget everything. In passing, you said to me, isn't it weak?

Isn't it weak the Mavs they're offering refund? I think it's the weakest sauce I've ever heard of. So hold on. I'm trying to break this down too. The Mavericks released some sort of statement that if you're real upset that they got rid of their star player, the franchise player, they got rid of Luca.

If you are so butt hurt by this, they will offer you a refund. Now, I kind of get to thinking because you and I do a Patreon podcast, right? We do our own Patreon. Of course. People complain for whatever reason, like we're customer service. I'm like, dude, you want a refund?

Or if they don't like my opinion on something, I'm like, hey, dude, you want a refund? I'll hook you up. You know, it's a nice way of shutting people up sometimes, so maybe it's as simple as that. Like, well, people take them up on it, though. Like, there are times where, yeah, someone's like, Kavino, I hate your take on this.

And Kavino will respond, Danny G. Hey, do you want me to send you your five or ten bucks back? Hey, dude, if you want your five bucks back, I'll send it to you. Seriously, like I mean it. Yeah, stop being. Yeah, exactly. Like, I'd rather give you your money back than listen to you complain about nonsense. So it might be a simple way of doing that.

Two layers here for me. Go ahead. By offering refunds, like, what a Karen of a fan you have to be. And I say that respectfully to all the Karen's out there. What a Darren, what a pain-and-e-ass fan you are. I think what to demand a refund now that Luca's not on the team. They're still playing. It's not like you're showing up and there's an understudy.

you're disappointed. Well, I was going to say, I have two thoughts. Number one, you're insinuating that you got the weak-ass end of this trade. Right. You're admitting. Anthony Davis is a defensive player of the year. Anthony Davis is one of the top players, one of the top of 75. I mean, the Mavericks are coming into the thinking here that they got the piece they need to win.

That's the thinking behind it. So that shows how supportive of a fan you really are to now want your money back. In fact, we mentioned it before during Danny's headline news, Heardline News. AD also waived $6 million so that the Mavericks could get other pieces that they need. So, like, he's doing everything to benefit this team. I think by offering a refund, you're somehow in a weird way admitting, we got the weaker end of this trade.

And if anything, baby B. You got Anthony Davis one of the best defensive guys, and you clearly were not happy with Luca and how, He played defensively. It's not like you traded Luca for, I don't know, so many picks and a player to be named later or some nonsense. This is a monster trade, two stars. Right.

I mean, am I blaming you for feeling a little confused about it, like upset about it? You're still processing it. I mean, even Patrick Mahomes publicly was like, I'm sick over this trade. I don't know how to feel about it. I'm sick. But then once it processed,

He's like, oh, that guy admit, AD and Kyrie are going to be nice, though. I imagine there was a trade in the NFL and was like straight up. Amunrah St. Brown, straight up for Justin Jefferson. And one of the teams is like, I will offer a refund if you're really that sad. It's for the complaining fans. It really is just to shut them up. That's my theory. And again, I'm not blaming anybody if you're a Luca fan for feeling a little disappointed

or feeling shocked or gut punched by the whole situation. I get that. He's your guy, he was your franchise guy. You're going to grow old with them. I understand. I understand it takes a minute to process. Yeah, I'd be more upset if I bought a Luca jersey and now it's irrelevant. But demanding refunds and the Mavericks being put in a position where they're offering refunds to people that are upset by this.

It's sort of a weak move. You're accommodating the weak as part of your fan base because the real thinking should be, hey, we made the move that we thought was necessary. deal with it. You're not running the team. Now, you think you know what's best for the team? Get out of here. Do you think it was partially a sarcastic?

Yes. If you want to re-fons, that's my thinking. You could get one, your little baby-bee. Is that like? Yeah, because, like, I don't have time for sports babies. If you are going to cry about this, here's your money back. Because most fans are not going to behave that way. You adjust to the new players on your team.

You know, this is not the same. dad who's retired will every so often Danny G. bring his wife into Manhattan to go see a Broadway show. Oh. My dad, going to Broadway. So my dad, Greg, will take his wife into the city. They'll go see a show, get some lunch. Retired life must be nice. Go see Radio City Music Hall. Oh, I'll go to go see Hamilton. So my dad and his wife are big fans of Hugh Jackman. I mean, the guy, I mean, he is the greatest show. I mean, he is. I mean, he's a star. My dad probably paid three or $400 a ticket to go see Hugh Jackman on Broadway.

I mean, he is the headlining name of this Broadway show. He's on the marquee. But a couple days before the performance. Now, this is a couple years ago. This is like towards the tail end of like the COVID days. I can't wait to see Hugh Jackman. But your dad probably says his name wrong. Huge Jackman.

Huge Jackman. Dad, it's Hugh. Oh, yeah. Huge Jackman. So my dad. dad sees on, like, Fox 5 News in New York, like Hugh Jackman has COVID. He has to cancel a week of shows. There'll be an understudy.

My dad called the box off, and he's like, yeah, I want to reschedule my tickets and get new tickets. Because he wanted to see Hugh Jackman. That's fair. That is fair. That is not what's happening in Dallas. Right. You're not canceling because you trade a player. They're not replacing Hugh Jackman in this story with Zach Efron, who is also in the greatest showman.

Where I was like, well, it's not Hugh Jackman, but he's still a big star. Yeah, but Brian Crinsden will be playing the role. Right. You know, in this case, you still get, I don't know, Anthony Davis and Kyrie and the rest of the Mavericks that you're supposedly a fan of. So again, I do think it's just good PR and a courtesy to the whiny complaining fans. And it's just goes to show you the culture we live in where people are so quick to complain and speak to the manager mentality. It's like, ah, barf. It really is.

It's really catering to that type of person. You could argue it's the super serving of the fans that a guy like Mark Cubans usually doing. Maybe this is a Mark Cuban. I'm such the people-pleasing owner. Everyone loves Mark Cuban. Everyone wants a guy like him running their team. Maybe it's his way saying, like, listen, there's plenty of people excited, but if you're not, if you want to be a baby.

You're catering to sports babies, and the right mentality is simply this. Look, Lakers fans still have to process losing AD. They won with AD. He's been there for what? Six years. That's LeBron's guy, right? The right mindset is to now look at the Mavericks or the Lakers, but Mavericks in this story with, man, I got to see how this all unfolds.

I want to see the chemistry between Kyrie and AD. You've got to be excited about the move that they made, not crying about it moving forward. So anyway, that's the story, and that's our side to it. That's our take on it. The Mavericks are offering refunds to crybaby fans. That's how I view it. You bunch of babies. Hey, I got a story that I'm going to add to the Hurdline News, so let's hit it.

It's time. Heardline News. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Hurdline News. All right, leading headline from Super Bowl Week in New Orleans. Fox Sports Radio head honcho and radio hall of famer, Don Martin, says that Rich Davis feeding our boss Scott food was literally

the weakest thing he's seen in 30 years of covering the big game. Literally. Yeah, 30 years. We're going to cover this later on our show. I think splitting food with another grown man is totally fun. And then feeding each other is a whole other stories. All right, as you guys know, the NBA trade deadline is

tomorrow. One rumor and one trade. KD. is dealing with a left ankle sprain. It's uncertain whether or not Durant has played his last game for the Suns. Sources say Phoenix has been willing to listen to offers for Kevin Durant in recent days. The Warriors are among the teams with interest, according to

Brian Winthorst. What about Jimmy Butler, man? Is that window closing on him? Or is he going sons? Like, what's his deal? No new news on Butler as of right now. Is he just sort of like becoming too much of a pain in the ass? That's what it feels like.

He always has such a good start and he's so good in the postseason. It's just when things go bad, they go really bad for him. And I think once he make, I heard some reference there like where When he makes, when he has his mindset on something, that's just how it is. And he wants out, and that's just how it is. I got to ask you, I mean, because, again, this is usually around the time where a lot of people start honing into the NBA more. You should just have the Super Bowl left, and then after that, before baseball, it's NBA, MBA, some people loving some hockey.

I look at it this way. NBA? There's a lot of moves. Am I wrong by saying more than the past few years where there's a lot of players that there could be a lot of movement in the next 24 hours? And I like, I like it. I'm excited to see some of these new guys on their new teams and see how the second half of the season unfolds. I think it could just feel like that too because we had the biggest trade in all of sports.

Think about it. It's Super Bowl week, right? We're getting ready for Sunday Super Bowl. It's Media Row and we're talking NBA. That would never happen. That would never happen if that trade didn't happen. Speaking of that, Shams has more breaking news this morning. The Bucks trade three-time All-Star Chris Middleton to the Wizards

and a deal that sends Kyle Kuzma, former Laker, to Millie. Milwaukee. Middleton is 33, spent the last 11 plus seasons in Milwaukee, big part of that Bucks championship team in 21. He's averaging just 12.6 points per game this season. Injuries have plagued him the past few years. Meanwhile, Kuzma is 29, averaging over 15 points and almost six rebounds. He injects some youth to a Bucks roster that now has a new big three, Yonis, Yonis, Lillard, and Kuzma. Yeah, you know, it's crazy. We seem to discount that Bucks team with Janice because they're middle of the pack in the east, but you make some adjustments, they could rise in the second half.

I mean, they're only a couple of years removed from winning a championship. Into the NFL, the reason we're here in New Orleans, the back-to-back Super Bowl MVP Patrick Mahomes expects a different Vic Fangio this Sunday. Every time I've played Coach Fangio, there's been different change-ups and different things that he's shown us, Mahomes said this morning. I think that's what makes him so great is he's not going to just do exactly what you saw the last time. I'm sure there's going to be blitzes during the game. I'm sure there's going to be times where they play coverage.

It's going to be a chess match. But you want to go up against the best, and he's one of the best defensive coordinators in the league. It'll be a great challenge for us and the refs. No, I made up the rest of that. Mahomes went 6-0, by the way, versus Fangio when he was head coach of the Broncos. Added two more victories over Miami last year where he worked his defensive coordinator. Only Peyton Manning, 9 and 1, has more wins over a Fangio-led defense. Man, you know, I think

Patrick's just saying all the right things, to be honest. I mean, is there anyone that could really game plan for the magic that Patrick Baham seems to bring in the playoffs? He's won, you know, three of the last four Super Bowles going into his fifth one here. This is, you know, we're talking about a guy that beat Kyle Shanahan and great defensive coordinators twice. He beat the Eagles.

You know, that one blemish, Tom Brady beating him. Besides that, he shows up to play. Yeah, and Covino earlier, you said, our boy's spot was in the bathroom with Gronk at the same time. Not together. They were side by side. Gronk came out and said the reason he's picking the Chiefs is because of their record versus Fangio.

Six and O. I haven't checked it out, but I'm pretty sure it's six and O. I want to add one story to your heardline news. Taylor Swift, she's going to be there in the $2 million. You broke it. We went a whole show. You're bringing her up. A whole show, you ruined it.

Last year she was there. She's here now. A $2 million suite. And they're talking about the elevated menu. You know what else was going to be there, right? At the game? Your boy, Donald Trump. The Donald will be there.

Taylor Swift is headed back to the suite, and they're saying, here's what's on the menu. Lobster casadias. There's a lot of good food on this menu. They're saying all types of Kobe beef, like little sliders. and just shrimp cocktail. And they're breaking out all the Cajun, Creole southern food for Taylor Swift.

Oh. You're making me hungry, man. She'll be in the booth rooting on her dude, Travis Kalson. All right. Let's wrap it up with the NBA really quick here. Last night, the Lakers beat the Clippers again at the new Intuit Dome, 122 to 97. We saw LeBron and Lucas sitting together for the first time.

There's another story from the game. Even global superstars aren't immune to the occasional case of mistaken identity. identity. Travis Scott learned that firsthand last night as he strolled across the court to greet fellow spectators, a security guard who clearly didn't recognize the rapper, grabbed him by his jacket, attempting to stop him. The confrontation didn't last long, but other security had to intervene recognizing Scott and signaling that he did have court side permission. Social media ate this up as many like our boy spot Monday night at the Superdome have lacked access at times in their life. Yeah, it's embarrassing getting denied or stopped.

So you can imagine a guy like Travis Scott how he feels in that moment. You know, it's like you want to drop who you are, but you don't at the same time. Did you see Jordan's son? He dropped the fact that he was Jordan's son pretty quick. It's different when you have some cocaine on you. Right. Honestly, I was curious if you were Michael Jordan's son, I think you almost have to pull out that car. Because if you are in trouble, you might get a couple officers that are like, oh, you're Jordan's son?

Like, you know it's embarrassing and it's like a weak move. He was in trouble. He was on drugs. but allegedly, I think you have to pull that move. And by the way, speaking to that Taylor Swift food, I'm sorry, I'm hungry looking at this. You won't stop with Taylor Swift. Colossal Gulf Shrimp.

Nine-hour smoke short ribs in a remulade sauce with some, get this, alligator, alligator sauce? Jambalaya beef brisket? Our boy Saugger said he had alligator the other day. You know, maybe we've got to go get some fried alligator. We have two hours in between this show and our other show today on Fox Sports. So maybe some alligator? What are you doing some Fat Guy Radio?

Thanks for the Fat Guy Update. Thanks for the Fat Guy Upd. And that was the Hurdline News. Thanks, Danny Jee. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. All right, again, is Kavino and Rich.

In for Colin on the Hurd Live from Media Row. Super Bowl 59, New Orleans. And we still got to talk J.D. Martinez. And more about the game this weekend. Of course. We still have two more hours of Kavino and Rich later on. So we have lots to get to. Stick around. J.D. Martinez, Pickleball.

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We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.

Pretty, yeah, pretty wide. range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time did it seem like a crazy idea. It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look

like? No, I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is.

Getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the civil war. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Ely Boulevard. Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is,

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Rev. You know where Colin really was today? Where? You see the good. Goonies reunion? Is that where he was? But no, that's every time I scroll on social media other than Super Bowl stuff, CNN even reported a few minutes ago,

the Goonies never say die. 40 years later, they're all supporting Kehue Kuan. Kui Kuan. Kui Kwan, sorry. Better known as short round. Short round. And, of course, his data. He has another movie out.

And pretty cool to see all the remaining alive cast members supported him a movie premiere and they're saying reunion? Goonies too? Would you be down for that if it was like their kids and they did it right? Like if the Goonies' kids went on an adventure? There's some movies you just got to leave alone. They're not all there though. We're Sean Ashton.

Oh, he was in another picture. He's there. I saw him. Sean Aston was there. In this picture but hey man, it's no reunion without Cory Feldman. I love that guy. Rich, you're a big fan of his music I heard. Wait, I thought that was Megan Rapino. No, that's Corey Feldman. He has bleach blonde hair and he's like skinny now. I love his rendition of

Freebird from Leonard Skinner. He's the bad. I love his dance sports. Well, hey, happy 40th Goonies. By the way, I just saw a headline that I wanted to bring up before he get out of here. Okay. This is a true headline. I thought I was... A. Herdline.

Yeah. According to front office sports, which is legit, Stephen A. Smith, the fact of the matter. Stephen A. Blasmus. Is emerging as a possible democratic... I am emerging as... You do not want to make an enemy out of me.

I'm emerging. emerging as a Democratic candidate for the United States president in 2028. And why is that a surprise? I mean, Stephen A is a pretty big deal, but president? Yeah, president. Mayor? I mean, Ronald Reagan was a president. I mean, Arnold was a governor.

Donald Trump's the president. I mean, you're right. Stranger things have happened, but... I'm going to clean up this town. Yeah. I'm a bad man. I'm a bad president. So, I mean, we shall say, I just...

thought, hey, that's, that was not on my 2025 bingo card, as they said. I love that, man. Stephen A, we could say we knew them when. I know, right? Right? How cool is that? And something I guess we'll touch on now, but we'll continue on during our regular show. Again, just search Covino and Rich, if you're busy later, and check our podcast, follow

rate and review and follow our adventures at Covino and Rich. J.D. Martinez. This is your boy. And by the way, Rich, speaking of your Mets, they just got rid of Harrison Bates. to the twins. I'm okay with Jay. He was not a factor. No, but he's a good player.

So. But sometimes, you know, a good player doesn't work out. He didn't sniff the postseason. I know, but I know him. Personally. No. I know him as a Yankees fan,

and I know what he's capable of. He's a good player. It's a good move for the twins. But your boy, J.D. Martinez, who had his best days in Boston? Well, you saw that, listen, I'm not being critical because I wish that I would have even played a minute

in any professional sport. J.D. Martinez, a legitimate superstar. If you look at his numbers, they're pretty solid. 331 career home runs. The guy batted 283 lifetime. But there were some years there in the end where you're like, yo, he's still batting 270, 30 home runs, 103 ribbyes with the Dodgers a couple years ago.

Boston. Andrews heard him. He raked in Boston. He raked in Boston. Detroit, Houston. Last year has a met apparently a great team leader in the clubhouse, a guy that gave the Mets some confidence in the hole, like, yo, I came here because you guys are a postseason team.

So sometimes the guy's influence and worth is in the postseason as a leader in the clubhouse or during the season as just a veteran voice. But last year, 2.30, 16 home runs just never really clicked with the Mets. So when I hear that he's moving on, it makes sense. It's time. Yeah, he's looking forward. He signed a deal with, I don't know if it's J-O-O-L-A or J-L-A or J-L-A. It's like an equipment company, and it's a pickleball professional brand,

and he signed with them because he's saying there's no ceiling on his potential in the world of pickleball. He's got a good swing. Does he have a good for hands? To pretend like you don't have their equipment in your closet. I'm not familiar with you. You know what? I have to be honest. You never played?

Why would I lie? I've never played pickleball ever in my life. Well, you know what? I'm not opposed to it. I'm not taking some weird stand. So like, it's for losers. If you want to play pickleball, you know where you go? You see Dan Patrick on his set here at Super Bowl.

He has a pickleball court, and all the Danettes are just playing pickleball. I just thought it was interesting to see the transition because if you missed our Puka Nakua interview earlier, we said, hey, man, he's a young player now. What do you think you'll be doing after? A lot of times there's an interest in broadcasting or commentary or podcasting. Even Kurt Schilling yesterday was saying he wants to do what we do. He wants to do like a manning cast for baseball. You know, a lot of people think along those lines.

Pooka Nakuwa said, well, look, man, I'm basically still a young man in life. I want to play professional basketball in another country somewhere or something. Yeah, his whole point was if, you know, football is something that, you know, lasts until he's 30-something, like most wide receivers. And he was serious about that. He thinks that he could go play overseas somewhere. International basketball. International basketball, and he would love to do that.

So to see J.D. Martinez say, I'm an old guy on the field, but still a young guy in life, I could compete in pickleball, I think sets a new precedent of, wow, man, we're going to see a lot of athletes make that transition.

Not just in the world of golf or international basketball, pickleball could be an option. What I like about that and what doesn't surprise me is when you're a professional athlete, like a J.D. Martinez or a Pooka or anyone for that matter,

from the time you're a little boy. I was just a little boy. From the time you were a little boy until a grown man, all you know is dominating sports. Because if you made it to the pros, every step of the way from Little League to Pop Warner to junior high, high school, you dominated. So when you're playing days are done and you feel like I got athletic gas in the tank, not surprising that he's like, yo, sign me up. I'm going to be a pickleball guy. You think you want to just stop athleticism? Exactly.

So again, are we going to see more of this? Is this the start of something? Stay tuned. Is Pickleball lame? Maybe we'll talk about that on our show, Kavino and Rich. Hey, join us in two hours and thanks again to everyone for hanging out with us. Perfect day. Thank you, Colin. We'll see you tonight at the party. Until then. Until later on today. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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