The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 3 - Week 3, Bucs

Episode Date: September 28, 2021

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And when you have standalone games, everybody freaks out. And I said, yes, I have Dallas as a playoff team. So when I did the herd hierarchy today, I had Dallas at 10. The Raiders pass rush. I wouldn't put them in there if they didn't have a pass rush. And then Arizona 8, Cleveland 7, Kansas City has led 65 straight games. Let's not overreact. Green Bay 5.

Then I put Denver 4. And everybody's like, okay, now you're overreacting. But here is the balance. How do you reconcile this? They're doing everything well. You can't throw on them. They have a pass rush. They're running it.

They're throwing it deep. And they're doing it with injuries. So I have to reward Denver. And I thought about Denver. If they face Green Bay who would win. And I think if they faced them mile high, I think Denver beats Green Bay today. Well, Green Bay has one receiver, so they would put Kyle Fuller on Devante Adams. They don't throw to anybody else.

I think my only pushback on the Broncos. And I, well, I agree. You got a reward wins. They're doing everything. But they beat the giants, the Jets, and the Jaguars. I understand. Those are Titans of the NFL. Like the Panthers are undefeated.

Yeah, but the difference is they are functioning. Denver is, by the way, Denver, I had Carolina and the Chargers 11. 12. So I want to see Sam Darnold play from behind in a game whereas I've seen Teddy Bridgewater play from behind in the game and I still trust him. My point is Donald can be

reckless when he trails. He becomes a little bit of a hero ball playmaker. He's going to trail against Dallas at some point. Let's see them. Without McCaffrey, he trails. I would argue that the Panthers win over the Saints makes them more impressive than the three wins of the Broncos.

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No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Now, the Broncos play the Ravens on Sunday. I like the Broncos to win. Where's the game at? It's at Denver. Yeah, I like Denver to win that game. I think Denver's for real. I think Denver wins that game.

What is the line on? Let me guess the line. Denver's favored by two and a half. They'll get us the line. All right. Three. I think Denver's going to win that game. After that emotional Baltimore moment,

I think Denver wins the game. Well, the Chiefs have lost two straight games for the first time since early in the 2019 season, and Eric Bianami didn't struggle to put his finger on the reason why they've stumbled recently. I always want to make sure we're doing a great job protecting the football, especially in those critical moments of the game. But we are who we are right now because of the turnovers. We're one and two teams. And so we have to correct everything, make sure that we're getting back on track

and getting this thing going in the right direction moving forward. There's no line on that Broncos Ravens game yet. fuck's bet. The Chiefs had four turnovers this weekend against the Chargers. Yeah, a lot. And two turnovers late in the Ravens game week one. So six total this season. Only three teams have more. And that is the Jaguars, the Jets, and the Titans. Yeah, they've been a sloppy mess. I still put them in the top ten because they lead every game. We know they're good, but they are generally turnovers. I mean, it'd be one thing is they had a rookie quarterback throwing picks. Fumbles work their way around. A lot of fumbling is randomness. Yeah. And so I don't,

I don't like pin. Oh, that's a team that fumbles. Well, I'm just like, how do you fumble? Is someone punching the ball out? Right. Or are you just, you know, dropping it? I mean, they also rank 29th in red zone defense. So a chief's opponent has scored a touchdown on 12 with 13 red zone drives.

And that's a problem. Yeah. So they do have some issues. Overall, we know that the chiefs are well coached. Do we know what they're capable of? Yeah. Maybe it's some, you know, stumbling early. I'm with you.

I'm not going to completely lose faith in them. But they do look like they are a little bit vulnerable. more than we're used to seeing and they've got to clean that up. There's no odds yet on the Chief's Eagles game this weekend but I would imagine that the Chiefs would take advantage of the Eagles in that game. So the Jets are 0 and 3

for a third straight year but defensive tackle Quinn Williams said the team doesn't deserve criticism from fans in the media. So people who have negative stuff to say about Zach and the team we're not listening to it. We want to keep getting better every single day because if you listen to negative things you eventually believe in those negative things

and go into a tank about those negative things. true. For me, for this team and for Zach, we're not listening to the negative bleep that is being set. Well, I will say this. They're not doing Zach a huge favor. A lot of straight drop with a bad O line. Be nice to move him a little bit. Now, I said this, this was my prediction. I said, even if Robert Sala makes it as a head coach, there's an argument to be made a pretty strong one, he's going to be the fourth best coach in that division for the first couple years. Sure. He's never been a head coach. He jokes about it. And I don't think there's any question. question, Zach Wilson, if he works, would be the second best quarterback in the division at best. So this is a quarterback coaching league. And we don't think Zach's going to be the second best quarterback first year. Eventually, he could be. So my takeaway is you got to kind of throw this year out

for Zach Wilson. I'm not making heavy judgments, even though I said I think he's Johnny Mansell with a better arm. He's a little bit of a showoff too much for my taste. I think when you have a rookie coach, coordinators, and rookie quarterback, throw the year out. I'm not judging anything. No, I'm with you. I don't care about what happens this year

with Jacksonville or with the Jets. Now, I do want to see a little bit of growth towards the end of the season, get a little bit more stable. I would prefer to see cultural growth, right? That's what we felt about good, about Brian Flores.

You want to see cultural growth. You want to see them start, you know, losing close, start to see some camaraderie within the team. Don't let it get to a desperate situation full of despair. That's what I don't want to see. But yes, there's nothing that you should take away from Zach Wilson this year. Of course he's going to have games where he throws for interceptions.

They're not a good team. The same with Jacksonville. This is not a good team. That's the reason why they were picked at the top of the drafts. Not a good team. There's nothing to completely overreact to, especially in week three. And he's right. They shouldn't be listening to negativity. That's not going to help you at this point. It's not like it's a veteran team is struggling. You know, it's not Kansas City. We're like, okay, something we need to work on here. We need to tweak some things. This isn't who we are. This is who you are. And you need to develop and get better. But we have to be a little bit patient with them. So this is going to be the story for this weekend. Tom Brady will be making his return to Foxborough. And on his Let's Go podcast

with Larry Fitzgerald and Jim Gray, he acknowledged there will be different kinds of emotions as he enters Gillette. I know that locker room. I know that home locker room. I know that home tunnel. I know which way the wind blows. I know everything about that. I know the way it smells. I know what a night game's like. I know what the fans are going to sound like. So in some ways, that'll be really unique I've never had that experience going to, you know, knowing that it'll be a first time for me being on the other sideline. So, you know, I'm not going to necessarily reminisce. I don't think this is the moment for that. He also said he doesn't expect fans to cheer for him because they are there to cheer for his own team, although I do imagine he's going to get a nice welcome.

Yeah. He did play 20 seasons there. He also talked about his dad mentioning that this return was a vindication game. comments made by Thomas Edward Brady, a 77-year-old insurance company CEO who should know better at this point in his life doesn't necessarily reflect the views or positions held by his son, Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr. So furthermore, should Tom Sr. continue to speak out on behalf of his son without the express written consent, Tom Jr. reserves the right to eventually put him in a home against his will. So Tom Senior does not speak for Tom Brady. They are currently favored by six and a half. according to FoxxBet.

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Every Tuesday, he's going to be the final 30 minutes of our show. He couldn't be happier. Fox Sports NFL analyst. Mark Sanchez, 10 years in the NFL, conference championship games, had the Seahawks Vikings. Let me address the Jets real quick because it's not a team we're going to talk about much this year. But I will say this.

When I watched the Jets against Denver and that pass rush, I thought, now come on now, you've got to give the kid a shot. It was a very static offense. I did not think that Zach Wilson at this stage at his life on the road even had a chance with that game plan. Am I being too critical of the, you know, I'm not there for the game plan, but it was a lot of stuff on dependent on him making a great throw. No doubt. They relied on him a lot.

They put a lot on his plate. However, to get, you know, you're always going to be able to get quick game. you're always going to be able to get some nakeds and stuff. But to get into your play action game, you've got to run the ball well. They're not just blowing the doors off in the run game either. So it's a balance. And when you get down the way they get down, your only options are to drop back and pass, which is very difficult, not just for quarterbacks, for rookie quarterbacks.

I mean, it's difficult for quarterbacks in general, I should say. But for rookie quarterbacks, when the defense knows that you're dropping back, every single play for the next three, four drives because they're up by 21 or whatever, those defensive ends are like, all they need to do is not run into each other because they pin their ears back, put their hand in the dirt, and it's a track meet. And as soon as you snap the ball, they're hauling ass to nine and a half yards deep. And all they have to do is miss each other and try and hit the quarterback on the way. So it's interesting you mentioned this, because we saw it last night with Dak and Jalen Hertz. Dack started 72,

games. He's a grown-up. Okay, it's a whole different ball game. So I know we love to criticize Jimmy Garoppolo. And Aaron deserves to be the star for winning the game. But Garapolo, in that stadium, to your point, face Green Bay, who by the way, had a pretty darn good pass rush in that game. He was hit 10 times. And Garopolo made four big boy throws. Oh, yeah. And by the way, Eric Stokes, that rookie corner for Green Bay can play. Oh, yeah. And J.R. Jaya Alexander, maybe the second best, first best corner in the league. And I just want you to talk about this. To your point, Garoppolo's going back.

No running. I thought, we all can criticize Jimmy Garoppolo. You've been in those moments. Those are hard throws. It is a Sunday night. There's a little wind. Take me to what you saw when he's doing that. So what Jimmy did so masterfully is, one, he won the game.

He did. save for Aaron Rogers, okay, and a first ballot hall of famer, Super Bowl champ, MVP. If that guy's not playing against them, I don't know if anybody else wins that game. Maybe Tom, maybe Russ. Maybe. Maybe. I'm not sure. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

And this is, because I'm a little biased, but maybe Josh Allen. Right. Because he's got the juice to wing it downfield. But other than that, I mean, Jimmy won the game. He did everything. If I'm his quarterback coach, if I'm his coordinator, I'm feeling great. And it sucks because you don't get. the result you wanted, but the process was there. Because when you face a good defense, like Green Bay,

or a good organization, a good team, eventually, right, the first, second, third quarters, you're going to get your gimmies. You're going to get your breather plays. I'm talking schemed and dialed up completions that are just no-brainers. Easy with quick screens, screens to the back, you know, RPOs, boom, you're stacking completions, you're stacking completion. But at a certain point, you're going to have to sustain a 10 plus play drive. You're going to have to convert two to three third downs with drop back pass game, which means you've got to drop back, diagnose the defense, make the right read, find the right, go through your progression because number one's probably not open.

Now you've got to make an accurate throw and then do it all over again. And that means everybody up front has to do their job. That means the receiver's got to be at their right depth. When they put you into a drop back pass game mode, it's on. All 11 have to be just nails. and that is the toughest part of the game. That's where you get the nitty gritty, almost like postseason baseball where it's like two to three

and oh, we got to sub a pitcher for one batter and boom, we're in and out. Like that's where you get to the minutia of this game and it's drop back passing. How long did it take you to get there? Because I thought you... God. Well, but you had, you were in some big games.

Sure. You had a couple of big drives in Foxboro. Yeah. And because we were so heavy run, play action, naked's getting me out on the edge, quick game that when we did drop back, we would gash some people because it was rare. We didn't have to do it a lot. But at some point, you're going to have to do it consistently.

And that's what separates these quarterbacks. That's what brings that top five, that top 10 group. That's what separates them is that they can do it over and over again. Case and point. Kirk Cousins last week? Oh, man. That dude was on fire. But he had Delvin Cook.

Well, he didn't have Delvin last week. He had Madison and Abdullah. So they ran the ball well and credit to Clint Kubiak. We called the game. So I was like, in it, in it. And I was so impressed at how dedicated and how determined they were to stick to the screen game because it kept the pass rush off balance. I mean, they must have run five or six screens to the running back.

And they hit every time screens to the tight end. At one point, they all out blitzed Kirk Cousins. And he's got no chance in the world. Boom, there goes Conklin running out the back door. And he floats this ball, which took everything he had because he doesn't have a Josh Allen arm, you know, this massive, you know, throw it 70 yards down the field, no problem, arm. And he flicked this thing out to his left and just like nice and light, boom, right in front of the tight end. And there he goes, just scampering for first down. Let me talk about this game because I am on the rest of the nation.

I told my staff this the other day, I had the Seahawks Vikings over in the corner and I was really on the Rams box. I theorized from what I watched off to the right with the Seahawks Vikings is that what's happening to Seattle, it's now become a trend in three weeks. Time of possession is a disaster. So Russell becomes a spectator. And then when he does get inserted in, there is a sense, I've got to make stuff happen.

Oh, yeah. We will not get the ball back. So I could, I think it's, first of all, I think it asks a lot for a quarterback to watch for 12 minutes, get cool, come back in and play against a pretty good pass rush, that's hard. No doubt. Second thing, there is a psychology to it where the offensive coordinator's thinking,

we may not give this thing back. We've got to be. You overthink the offense. You get too clever. You get, you know, so what are you seeing because the Seahawks, is this just what they're going to be, a dynamic play making offense, but they can't everything. Minnesota had 12 play drives, nine minute drives.

And credit to Minnesota. for sustaining those drives because that against a tough defense like that that puts a shell over the top and just forces you to convert and convert and convert constantly. That is so tiring. That's Pete's defense. It is Pete. It's Belichick at times. I mean, when you put everybody up there and bank on getting to the quarterback before he gets the ball off,

that's a serious gamble now. So now the trend is like, okay, just make them do it. 15 times on a drive. Go ahead. Make all 11 guys do the right thing. 15 plays in a row. I guarantee that that offense is going to screw up before the defense does. That's kind of the mentality.

But with Seattle, the first quarter, they owned the time of possession. I mean, it felt like the Vikings weren't even on the field. And then the rest of the game, it completely flipped. And to me, the turning point was they extended a drive and Hugo Amati, one of the defensive backs, holds and extends a drive. On a play, he's on the backside of the route. like the guy, Cousins is looking the other way. There was no chance that Thielen was getting that ball or Jefferson or whoever was in the slot.

And he's holding him like hard. Boom. The ref throws a flag away from the call. You're like, what happened? Boom. Extends the drive. From that point on, it was 17.7. Never looked back.

Seattle barely had the ball after that. And Kurt Cousins went into Super Kirk. I mean, it was insane how surgical he was. How decisive he was. When it wasn't open, I mean, he's not flashy. right? And I said it on the broadcast. I said he's analog. He's not digital. He's probably got a record player at the house. Right. You know, like he's old school and he's just going to do it. He's going to be steady on the boat.

He doesn't need to be, you know, flashy and go 150 miles an hour, but he ain't going to go 30 miles an hour either. He's just going to be right along the speed limit, just take you right to your destination. It was so impressive because it's hard to play like that. So Rams bucks, I said, I don't think anybody in the league could have beaten the Rams. They had one penalty. They won everything. They didn't have any drop passes. It was the sharpest singular game I've seen a team play. You've had one or two of these where you just, I mean, when you beat the Patriots in Foxborough and you walk off the field,

did you know you were going to get that on Wednesday at practice? Or does that thing just happen? Because I thought the Rams were virtually flawless. I would guarantee that if you asked them about their practice the week before, it was dialed in. And of course, because you hear former. Super Bowl champs talk about this every week the year after they win and they're trying to repeat,

you get everybody's best shot. That's everybody's extra divisional rival. Even when you're not in the division, it doesn't matter. So Tampa got the Rams best game. They got the very best and they're going to continue to get everyone's very best. I guarantee you the Patriots they tighten up this week. They're

going to be ready to go, right? Just because one, it's Tom, two, they just won a Super Bowl, he's coming home, all that. That adds to guys focus. It's like, do I want to go like hang out tonight and like go out and grab a drink or is like, yeah, I should probably study tonight. You know, guys, that really affects the way they go into the game. It's, it's serious. It's real. I mean, the average, NFL player is 27 handsome and wealthy and he has options. Not every player does extra film every game. No, I mean, I've, I've had players, linebackers say when they face Peyton Manning, you stay in that week. Oh yeah.

It's just, you don't want to be humiliated on television. Exactly. And they know that that guy can wear him out on Sunday if they weren't ready. All right, good stuff. Mark Sanchez. More with him in a second. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, I'm Doug Gottlie.

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It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.

So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-taped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.

I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do a little kill? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack.

I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really?

Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, care games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests.

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Join me, Keir Gaines, is we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose. On my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free, our Heart Radio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. So, Dack, looked great. The Cowboys, to me, surprisingly rolled. Philadelphia last night, though DAC is 11 and 1 against the

NFC East. I don't want to make too much of it because whenever the Cowboys win a stand-alone game against the lousy divisional rival, America explodes. What did you see from Dak who looked very comfortable to me? From Dak and Kellan Moore, his coordinator, he put him in great spots.

And when Dak went to the line with multiple plays, he got him in the right play. When they're in cover two and they're trying to play deep and just worry about your quick game and you know, you have numbers to run, DAC got you in a running play. When the rush started to get to him a little bit, boom, they hit them with the screen, kept the rush off balance.

When they try to play quarters and get your, essentially your safeties involved in the run game, there's the play to CD Lamb. They said, all right, we'll pin one of your safeties down and let CD run right by somebody who's flat-footed deep in the secondary. Bam, nailed it. I mean, it was almost as if Kellan and Dak had the defensive calls from the Eagles. It was impressive the way they spread the ball around

and had the answer for, every single coverage. You want to play single high with single high zone and play off on the corners. Go, Amari Cooper, C.D. Lamb, let's go. Go beat him in the flat. And getting the tight ends involved. I mean, they just, and Zeke too. Zeke had that forward lean, that low lean, that aggressive.

I mean, he looked like he did his rookie year. Mark Sanchez joining us. Do you think any of it was pre-snap or they just had a better game plan? I think, one, they had a great game plan, but a lot of the plays where DAC goes in, you heard Greasy on the call say they got to change their call now because everybody knows it we're talking about it. But when he said Picasso,

Picasso's a painter. Painters draw, they run a draw play. Right? Like, you got to remember, we're football players too. Like, don't overcomplicate it. So let's just keep it real simple and make sure everybody knows what's going on. And so, you know, those were

awesome calls at the right time to just keep people off balance. And he kept them on schedule. And if they got off schedule, he was, okay, cool. It's third and a, what do we say? Third in a Walmart parking lot, third and long. I don't have any calls on the sheet for this. So just get me some yards.

Let's not take a sack. Let's not turn the ball over. Kick the ball down there. We'll play the field position game and let our defense get after them because they're energized. They love their defensive coordinator. They're creating turnovers. And they're helping us.

It's not a liability on defense right now for them, like it was the year before. Yeah, they do look. They have more takeaways. I said this after week one. My eyes are telling me Dallas is younger, a little, they're a little faster than last year. The closing speed from the corners, Diggs is a really good player.

He sure is. He's really, really good. And Dan Quinn, that's like the Pete Carroll model, the Dan Quinn model. Play fast. Yes, play fast. And it was so funny. We talked to Bobby Wagner last week about, like, tackling and what did Coach Carroll tell you? What does Ken Norton Jr. tell you?

What does Dan Quinn tell you about tackling? And he told us the story. He said, one of these young guys came up a couple years ago. It said, man, you're one of the best tacklers in the first. the league. How do you do it? Do you go left foot forward? Like, do you think about what shoulder or what side of your head you're going to hit him with? And he goes, no, man, just get his ass on the ground. And the kid was like, he said the look of disappointment in the kid's face because he thought he was going to have this profound like, you know, moment to learn how to tackle. And he said, dude,

you can't overcomplicate that. He goes, as soon as I worry about what foot's forward, what shoulder I'm going to hit him with, what side is my head on? He goes, the guy's just run over you. He's five yards past you said, just get his ass on the ground. Play fast. Play fast. Mike Bellotti, Oregon used to say play one inch out of control. Just play as fast as you can. Jalen Hertz, what worries me, Mark, lack of accuracy on layup

throws. I'm worried about that. He could be a little better with ball placement. I think the process is there. He's making the right reads. I thought the underthrown ball for the interception was right there. It was great. knew it was one-on-one. His receiver's winning. He looks the safety off so he doesn't have to worry about the safety. He does everything right. And he missed. He just missed the throw. And that's a

physical mistake. You got to remember with interceptions, the best way I can break it down is it's either a bad decision, as in you force it into coverage or it wasn't open. It's a bad throw or a physical mistake. Or number three, a really good defensive play. And those are pretty rare. For a defensive player to do something when you make a good read and make a good read and make a a good throw for him to just make this out of this world freakish play and pick you off the Dorel Rivas's of the world, you know, those kind of guys, okay, those are going to happen every once in a while. But when you stare down quick game to the left and they're in zone coverage and Diggs has his eyes on you and he reads your quick drop because you looked at it right away, he reads your quick game

steps and he knows, boom, he jumps it. That's just a physical mistake that he's got to correct. He's got to keep his eyes down the field for one second, boom, and then get over to where he wants to go. but those are little things. I think they're physical mistakes that he can clean up. It's not, I wouldn't hit the panic button. They're correctable errors. By the way, Mac Jones facing, we got a minute left, Mac Jones facing Tom Brady and Foxborough.

He's going to be nervous, right? Of course. Do you remember the first time you faced Brady? Against Brady against Carson Palmer, against Manning. Like as a young quarterback, you find yourself when you're supposed to be looking at the pages. Like, they used to be printouts. They weren't on the iPad or whatever it was before.

So you find yourself kind of watching the offense on the big screen and Shottie and Coach Kavanaugh would be like, hey, let's go. We're worried about the defense. Not the other team's quarterback, all right? You're not playing the other team's quarterback. So it's hard to keep the blinders on, but that's going to be part of his focus. Yeah, I mean, listen, I think for all these young guys, I think Dak Prescott was a great reminder last night and Jimmy Garoppolo

and Derek Carr in their games and Aaron. Because cars playing so well. Yeah, this is hard. Quarterbacking is really hard. Let's be patient. But, you know, it's so funny. We all want to bang on Garoppolo and Derek Carr, because they're not, they didn't come into the league as a top ten pick.

Boy, is a good quarterback. Derek Carr is playing great. Put cousins in there, too. Don't forget them. What do we call him yesterday? Kirk DeSole. That's what he was yesterday. It was so good this weekend.

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