The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Will Caleb Williams be ready?

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. I always think it's interesting. Mercedes-Luess was with the Bears last year, but it's a reduced role. They have Cole Komet. They brought in Gerald Everett, but a blocking tight-end, situational tight-end. But it is interesting. There are people, like Tom Brady's an obvious, we had him on the show yesterday. Tom Brady loves football.

He likes the process of it. And Mercedes-Lewis has been smart with his money, made good money, long time. and as he becomes more of a situational player, again, he played in all the games for the Bears. And what he is asked to do is not pretty. He is asked to put his hands on guys, defensive ends, and block. And Mercedes-Lewis is now joining us live. I love seeing him. Most seasons played by a tight end in league history.

And I had Brady on yesterday, and Tom loves the process, but Tom doesn't have to block. Tom doesn't have to put his hands on people. You could have called it a career. You're a smart guy. You've done well in your life. but you keep coming back, you even keep coming back in cold weather, Green Bay, Chicago.

Did you always, it has to be passion and love at this point. Does it not for the sport? Yeah, I mean, it's definitely, passion is a big part of it. I think that, you know, I always say, like, I don't ever want to be on the couch one day,

watch a ball and have the regret of not being able to fulfill my passion and my dream. You know, this is a dream of mine since I was seven years old. I've been doing this for a very long time. And mentally, I'm still in it. Physically, I'm still, you know, in shape and doing what I have to do to prepare to play games and help a team win. So for me, it's really a no-brainer.

Obviously, when that window closes, you know, it closes. And you can never get that back. And so, you know, I definitely want to take. I'd have and everything I have. When it's all said and done, it's all said and done. I'll be happy with that. You went against the Bears defense in practice. At the end of the year, I don't know how many people outside of Chicago, Mercedes, were paying attention.

The defense was actually really good from about week 10 on. Was it just Montez sweat? Matt Eber Fluse, it's a young defense. Did it click? You were at practice. What happened? Why was the defense so good? I think it was number one in the league the last six, seven weeks.

What happened? Yeah, well, I think, you know, obviously the second half of the season, the defense started to really come on, but it really was the consistency and willing to come to work and get better every day from the beginning of the season. You know, obviously things are not always going to go your way. There are so many variables on both sides to the ball that happen that sometimes are out of your control.

But the things you can't control is your attitude and your effort. And I can honestly say from watching from the sideline, whether, you know, I'm in getting reps or I'm not getting reps. Those guys are, you know, competing at the highest level. They're putting pressure on each other to be right. And the communication just got better and better throughout the year. And obviously with the acquisition of sweat coming in, that added another dynamic to the defense and took a lot of pressure individually

up a lot of guys and they were just able to play ball and not think that they had to go out there and be Superman. So, you know, still adding pieces and doing the right things. but I'm excited for what's going to happen this season. It's kind of fascinating to watch Jordan Love. I don't recall a quarterback where I didn't like him in the first five weeks, and I loved him by the end. He had this massive explosion.

Even Matt Lefleur, who's one of the nicer guys, was pretty critical of him early. Something, Mercedes, some switch flipped. I mean, you can't go from him in week four to him in week 17. It was a different player. He'd been in the, you know, he'd been there for three. three years, four years. What clicked?

Because by the end of the season, when he's going to Dallas, I'm like, oh, he's the best quarterback on the field here. It's not Dak. He's the best quarterback. What do you think clicked for him? I just think that it took, it took him some time this past season to kind of understand it like, you know, this is his team. You know, obviously being behind A-Rod and learning how to be a pro

and just the ends and outs of how to go about your business, He had the best to delusion. I just think towards the end of the year, he was just, everything started to come together for him. You know, it was one of those things to where, you know, I saw that coming from a mile away. The guy listens twice as much as he speaks. He just wants to be great.

And I'm glad that, you know, he had success. And I hope that he continues to have success because he's such a great guy. So, you know, when you stay diligent, and understanding it's a team game and being your personal best is what it's about every day knowing that guys are counting on you. You're always going to get the best out of yourself

and he was definitely one of those guys to do that. What is the line, all that Moxian experience from you and now you have a rookie quarterback, is it, what is the line for a veteran player? What are you comfortable helping Caleb with? I mean, you don't want to be annoying, but you want to help him. what have you learned so far and what is that line for you? I think it's always been about,

it's more pressure on the rookies coming in or the young guys that want to learn. And you can ask any of the guys that are bets. The rookies that come in that are humble, they understand that they don't know it all, and they ask the right questions, we're more than willing to give them the game. And I think that, you know,

Caleb's situation is going to be one of those things. Obviously, you know, coming as a rookie quarterback being draft first overall, it's a lot of pressure on you. But the more you can lean into your guys and understand that we're all in the same team. And, you know, we're all pushing for the same purpose. And that's the, you know, in pursuit of a championship. So I haven't had a chance to meet him yet in person. But we have similar friends, obviously, being in L.A.

Herdy's a great guy. So I'm looking forward to that. And, you know, I'm an open book, and I'm looking forward to taking one of my wing like Fred Taylor and Kyle Brady did for me when I came in. So it's going to be a great experience. So it's so interesting that you are, I just view you as a, you know, obviously you played with the Jags, but I really, and that was most of your career. But they're a lower profile team. So I remember your Green Bay years as much as your Jacksonville years because Green Bay is on TV every week. And now you go to your most hated rival.

same weather, probably a little bit more of a nightlife, one of my favorite cities in America, but I don't think fans think about this. You were basically in brawls with Chicago for the last five years. Now you walk into that locker room. You think it's going to be a little odd? It's not really odd for me because, you know, for one, my film does a speaking for me,

so it's not about me going in there. boasting and being weird about it. And a lot of the guys, like, I've been playing ball when a lot of these guys were in high school and junior high. So it's more so just like the Big Brother role, obviously. And, you know, sometimes I'll see those, like, I'll see comments on my pictures sometimes or if said the Bears

post something about when I resign. It was like, trying to remember something I'll So that could be like, man, why aren't you retired or I didn't even know he was still playing or this, that, and the third. I just feel like if I came to your job, let's say if you work in a normal 9 to 5 job and I came to your job and walked in and was like, man, you're still working here? Why don't you retire? I just feel like if you have the fashion to do something and you're playing ball or doing whatever you're doing at a high level, you can control. you can control your destiny in a way. I've been playing this game because I love this game.

And when it's gone, it's gone. You can never get that back. And so these are, especially these last like five or six years in my career, it's been amazing because I've been able to see it from a different standpoint. And, you know, obviously spending 12 years in Jacksonville, I was just kind of in the mix and my prime catching the ball, doing all these things. But now my role is changing.

it's just been amazing to just be able to play ball and help guys learn a game from a different perspective. And I'm here to tell you now that like, regardless if I'm 40 years old, I'm going into my 19th year, you know, there's grumbling, he's a locker room guy, this and that. The NFL is not a place where you can hide, right?

So if they're going to, you know, spend their money and invest in me, it's not to be just a locker room guy. And I don't take it as that I take my job very seriously. I enjoy dominating at the point of contact. And, you know, it's just definitely a blessing. I'm forever in gratitude for this opportunity. You know, I'm going to play this year just like I play it every year and has to get better every day.

And, you know, it's something that I'm proud of. Finally, if there was a guy, he may be retired now. If he's playing, you may not want to say it. But if I said to you, there's one guy that you, just didn't like blocking. He was a, and it may have been a unique player, but you look at it and think, because you played 268 games

and a guy that maybe kept you up the night before, or he had a weird style or a body, and you're like, oh, this is going to be just a, I'm going to be sore all week. What guy, because you're a blocking tied in, you are pulling guys down that line. Give me the guy

that you never, you won't miss. So as you're, as you're, uh, describing like body types. I would, I would say Julius Peppers. Julius Peppers. He's a guy that,

because I've always, like for me, the tougher matches for me are guys that are kind of like built like me. Yeah. Long arms, reach, great center of gravity, and twitchy at the point of contact.

The actual contact, the connection, doesn't really bother me. It's more so the twitchiness and him been able to get his hands on me because we both have the same reach. Right. So Julius Deppers was always one of those guys. I remember

my first couple years, two or three years in Jacksonville when Javon Curse was with the Titans. He was another one of those guys. I think the taller guys are more I feel like I'm going against myself, right? Like if

like if I'm going against one of the guys there was shorter but there was an animal was Dwight Freeney right so going against Dwight Freeney he was going to give you speed

quickness power Twitch and just his IQ for the game was just off the charts and I've learned so much from him coming up early on in my career that

that experience kind of helped me go forward to when I was going to have the block guys of his statue yeah the bigger guys it was just more like, okay, this is going to be mono-mono, mono, regardless of like the IQ, the speed, or whatever it is.

It's like the reach and the center of gravity would always, I know when I was meeting my match, and Julius Peppers probably sits at the top of that mouth. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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It is, and the O-line is now, I believe, 15 and up, not 15 and below. It is the first time in my life that I look at the Bears and say that offense is stacked. And I can't wait to watch it. As always, when do you report? You're going into about a month, a little over a month? Yeah, so we report July 19th. We got the Hall of Fame game. So a little earlier than, you know, years past.

But, you know, I'm out here training and doing my thing. I'm in great shape. I'm down like 12 pounds. I'm ready to go. So looking forward to it. Great seniors always. man. Appreciate you, brother. All right. Second oldest player to Aaron Rogers, a total pro, one of the great blocking tight ends. And I mean, I was just looking at the players he has played

with and the coaches he has played with. I mean, Robert Sala was an assistant with the Jags when he was starting out. He played there over a decade. Pro bowler. Nathaniel Hackett, Matt Eberflus, Matt Lefleuer, Mike McCarthy. Hasn't talked to Caleb yet much, but both Southern California guys, I think that's going to work. J-MAC with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. I confess that sometimes, you know, there's certain players we like that we like to talk about a lot. Anthony Richardson's one of them, right? Oh, you know, he's dynamic. Yeah, we're very bullish on Richardson. He's looking to get back from a shoulder injury that cut last season short. is athleticism is what made him special during that rookie season. But Shane Steichen wants Richardson to be smart about when to get down or out of bounds to avoid taking big hits.

Now, I like this because remember Richardson has bulked up. He's now listed at 255. Well, that's the downside to a big band or a Josh Allen or an Anthony Richardson or a Cam Newton. They can run over lineback. They did it in high school and college. You have to talk them out of doing it as a pro. And so, and it's hard. I mean, if you've done something your whole life and it's worked,

and you can run away from linebackers and run over corners, you're going to do it. So that's what worries me about him is that it's actually a little bit of a curse when you're as gifted as Josh Allen or Anthony Richardson or Cam Newton. It's a curse. Yeah. Like, Kyler Murray figured out very quickly, I'm going to slide. Russell Wilson, baseball background like Kyler, I'm going to slide. It took about two years for Lamar Jackson.

First couple years, he would, you know, Herbert, by the way, would put put his shoulder down. Justin now doesn't do that. So I think it's just sort of the evolution of large athletic quarterbacks is they're going to, this stuff works for them. And they'll, by year two or three, you've kind of figure out,

I don't want to do this. There was a great quote. I think it was in Fight Club. The thing that got you here won't get you where you want to eventually be. Right. And what got Richardson here was athleticism running around. Like you said, running over everybody.

Colin, he started 13 games at Florida. That's it. 13. Bo Nix had like, what, 60? Well, I think we both thought last year. He was way better than I thought he would be. He was, but to make that next step, he's got to win from the pocket, right?

I mean, you cannot just continue to run around. Oh, I'm 255. I can absorb hits. I like Richardson, but if he's not winning from the pocket, it's going to be a short career for him. Next up to the NBA, okay, this is a spicy story. People are going to get very worked up, but you and I talked about this. So there's a new story out on Yahoo Sports by this numbers guy, Tom Haberstrow, who took an in-depth,

look at Michael Jordan's amazing 1887, 1988 season. He led the league in scoring and won defensive player of the year award. That's never been done before. But they took a close look at the defensive stats and Colin. They were juiced. And one of the scorekeepers from that season has said, yeah, when Jordan was playing home games,

they were inflating his blocks and inflating his steals. And Jordan basically pushed to get this award. He was upset that Michael Cooper wanted the previous year. competitive guy. And they were juicing his numbers. I mean, if you look at the screen, you'll see them. His home stats, they call him stocks, blocks and steals, were massively inflated, like historic stuff that we've never seen.

And on the road, he was just a regular defender. And it kind of punctures a little bit the history of Jordan's amazing season. He was great. We get it. But this idea that he was like the best defender in the league because of some cooked numbers, Jordan fans out there are very defensive today. Now, you and I have gone 15 rounds over Jordan versus LeBron, but this is a big thing for LeBron,

because he never was able to get lead the league in scoring. Now, let me push back. Defensive player, the year. Jordan, do you think, I mean, Jordan was so powerful. He could get anything in the organization. So do you think anybody else has ever had their stats cooked? Yeah. In the 80s, it was in the article, you got to read the article.

I saw it briefly this morning. We left it to you to cover. Yeah. It's fascinating. Basically, there was like a stat keeping camp before the season, and they would look at film. And then there was one where it didn't look like an assist. And they're like, no, no, that's John Stockton. Give him the assist.

Like the NBA was essentially okay with some of these numbers being cooked to make their players look a little bit more. Well, it doesn't. He's still six for six. He's still Michael Jordan. It's just, it's, it's, it, you know, it peels back, I think, a reality of. And I also think officials, Michael. got a lot of calls. You know, I mean, Michael, and I think, by the way,

Magic Johnson complained a lot. Magic got calls. So people think it's rigged. Stars get calls. And stars from this article get a little bump in stats. Yeah, now we know guys chase triple doubles all the time, right? Russell.

Well, remember the Westbrook year when he was getting, like they were, even Carmelo Anthony acknowledged. Remember when Carlymelo at some, I think was he on that team that year? With OKC, I'm not sure. That he was saying, yeah, It's kind of get, we kind of cook the rebounds for it. On the foul line, Westbrook would essentially say to the big guys, don't get the rebound.

Let me get it so I can get a triple double and average it for the season. This is not the worst thing in the world. But again, in this current climate, Colin, this kind of stuff cannot happen. Fans will go, you can watch the entire game on NBA League Pass and go through the video like, I don't know. Listen, obviously nobody's saying Michael Jordan was a bum or not a great defender. But some of his stuff. It pokes a little hole. Oh, puncture.

A wound. You know I'm a LeBron. I think LeBron's better. I think you're kind of on the fence. I think they're totally different players. I think Michael and Kobe don't even play. I think LeBron plays more like magic than he does Michael. So I think it's hard to compare eras.

I mean, what would Bill Russell be today? He's 6'8. I mean, what would he be? Couldn't shoot. I mean, I mean, it's just like, so I don't think the era thing works. I think Michael was Michael and here's what I feel. Michael, even around other great players in his prime, felt significantly better than other great players like Barclay.

LeBron and his prime felt significantly better than other great players. Like, that's where they're the same. Like, LeBron and his prime was chasing people, like All-Stars down, and blocking their shots, and it looked like high school. Yeah. So, I mean, when you're truly great, like watching Messi or a Rinaldo against, Mbapé, against other great players, you're like, okay. And that's very rarefied.

I mean, Derek Jeter's great. I never felt that with Derek Jeter. There were other shortstop that had better range or slicker moves. But, I mean, you get these occasional players, and they're unbelievably rare, where even among All-Stars, and this is Michael and LeBron, they're a notch above All-Star. And that you may have one per sport. Like Mahomes now, compared to even Lamar Jackson and. Herbert feels like a different level

player. He's at the next level. So I had said that I would have LeBron for the first 47 minutes and give me Jordan for the final minute because LeBron elevates all those around him. Great passer, great vision. Jordan was the ultimate finisher. He was super clutch. Yeah. Not saying LeBron was in clutch, but anyways.

They're different players. Yeah. Final story is Copa America kicks off tonight. Leonel Messi and Argentina taking on Canada at 8 Eastern on FS1. Messi turns 37 on Monday. This could be the final tournament of his career, although some people seem to think he might suit up in the 2026 World Cup. We'll see. Argentina, heavy favorites to win Copa America. This team is a juggernaut

right now, as you see, messy highlights. Look out. That penalty kick is full of anxiety and stress, and a lot of guys miss it. It looks like he's playing against his son. Yeah. I mean, he's just different. Everything is easy for the great ones. By the way, I still remember that World Cup game in December. So, France, Argentina, one of the best two hours of sports in the last five years. So, So thrilling. So here's a Copa America odds on the screen. Argentina, big favorite. Brazil, which, you know, we touched on it yesterday.

They're missing some of their stars. The coaches out with the older guys. They got a teenager, Endric on this team. 17. He is phenomenal. Like talking next superstar. You say USA down there. By the way, there's a big gap between USA and Mexico.

Mexico is not a very good team right now. Mexico is not popping right now. They're turning things around. I can't wait for Copa. I can't wait. I can't wait. I'm on vacation so I get to watch all the games. Uruguay USA, I think that game is in Kansas City. I'm not sure July 1st maybe. This is going to be great.

This is going to be great. I don't think Uruguay is as good as everybody says. I know there's a lot of lawless and company will chime in, but it's a summer of soccer. I know you're excited. I am. And on vacation. So I don't, you know, I'm just going to be sitting around. You're just going to continue to rub that in, right? Kind of. Taking your longest vacation ever. You're trusting me with the keys to the house. I'm that teenager who's throwing a party when you're gone. You know that. How about just do best of the herd.

You can do a couple shows. Are you giving me time off? Can you tell the guys? I don't have that power. Nor do I want that power. The last thing I want is to have to be responsible for you. That is my night. I may throw in the double hoop earrings.

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I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clipper Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment.

And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream,

this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. The story I've told myself about love or relationship can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown

and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually need people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcasts presents soccer mom. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later.

We're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo.

Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just hit you. What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? I would buy it. Cut through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake.

That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You are. I'm lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

What's up fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.

I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the line, up, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court licking his fingers why he got the ball.

Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the ball. the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So, Jamack, I was thinking about this. We're going to play, should I stay or should I go with NBA guys? Because the free agency, we're going to start hearing moves pretty quick. Guys are starting to comment about it.

And there's a lot of reasons. You and I have both bounced around the country for our professions, for commerce or whatever. And there's different reasons. Sometimes you want a new start. Sometimes you feel it's a greater opportunity. You know, for pro athletes, similarly, if you don't, don't have a ring. If you're Paul George, is that become a priority? Let's play a little should I stay or should I go with the guys that could move this off season.

You like that song, Should I stay or should I go? That's a banger from back in the day. Should Paul George stay with the clippers or go to another team? I would go, and I think it's obvious. They haven't won a playoff series in three years. It's an old, weird roster. Are you going to put your roster in the hands of Hardin? Kauai's never available? I mean, if you want to win, he's in the back end of his career, he's 34. I know you love Los Angeles. You don't have to sell your home,

but this roster is not a championship roster, and he could be used and needed on several young ascending teams. All right, let's move on. Should Tyrese Maxie stay with the Sixers or go to another team? Stay. First of all, he's the primary ball handler.

He gets the ball in his hands, and they want him to score. He doesn't have to work for shots, right? Like, they want him to score. He's in the Eastern Conference. That's easier. And last year he had his best year, career highs and everything. So he's an ascending player. The franchise loves him.

The organization wants him to be the guy going forward. He's more available than Joe Lempied. And they have cap space. So they're going to put another score next to it. So, I mean, he's the centerpiece. Embed's the star, but I think offensively, he's becoming more and more of the centerpiece. Demar de Rosen does not have a ring. Should he stay with the Bulls or go to another team?

I don't think he fits anymore. I go. They're kind of guard heavy. Alex Caruso, Zach Levine, Kobe White. They're kind of guard heavy, and he's been around for a long time. I just don't think he fits that roster or that timeline. Now, to me, he's their most dependable score, more of a mid-range guy, but a good athlete. But I do feel like as a fit, he's kind of a weird fit now for them.

Agreed. Should Clay Thompson stay with the Warriors or go to another team? Stay. Listen, you've made a fortune. You've got range. You're a California kid. What are we doing here? You just sign a two-year deal, come off the bench, be a great bench player.

For the record, he made the fourth most three-pointers in the league last year. So I still think in a three-and-d league, he's got value. Steve Kerr wants him to stay. Are you really going to leave because you get an extra year and $7 million more a year with Orlando? Is it that or is it the money or does he just want the respect of we want you play? At some point, you've got to get over yourself. If you're willing to stay there and make $18 instead of $25 and you get it. Clay Thompson looked like a guy that's collecting real estate or sports cars.

So why should they save $7 million and not paying? Because they have other needs. That roster has more than just a little tweak. All right. Should Russell Westbrook stay with the Clippers or go to another team? Once he bought in to being a six-man, he should stay. He actually shot the ball pretty well. I saw this this morning.

He shot 45% from the field last year. That's the highest in five years for him since Houston. So I think Westbrook's an L.A. guy. I think he works for them. I think he's a tremendous energy guy off the bench for them. And you know what? I've been critical of Westbrook, but he kind of embraced the role player thing,

and he was great. He got a rough series against the Mavs. He did. But I will say this. As a sixth man, that dude plays as hard as anybody in the league still. If he gets in the gym, shoots a thousand three-pointers a day,

maybe he becomes a better three-points. Because he's a liability. Well, I think, they have guys who come. and score. What you need with him is just energy off the bench. And listen, when he's playing up against other team's backups, he's often the best player on the floor. Also true. All right. O.G. Ann and Obie, should he stay with the Knicks or go to another team? A lot of talk about him. I think he fits. Yeah. New York. First of all, they were 26 and 6 when he was in the lineup, starting lineup.

They had a losing record when he wasn't. So I think the Knicks know how valuable he is. I wouldn't keep your eye on the Sixers going after him. maybe, but I think he's a good player. I think after Brunson, there's an argument. O.G., now, he's had injury issues. Well, Randall's still technically on the team. Well, but they're going to move off Randall. I mean, to me, DeFincenzo became a great catch-and-shoot guy last year.

But to me, it's Brunson, OG. Josh Hart. And Debenzenzo. That feels like, and whoever they bring in, Mikhail Bridges. But I think Randall, Mitchell Robinson, I think they're expendable. I think he's a Knicks. I think he works. He just, the injury thing.

And finally, the big name, should LeBron James stay with the Lakers or go to another team? Son's still in high school. His business here's amazing. He has power over the franchise. He may get his podcast partner as a coach. It's very rare that you find a superstar that has a choice and leaves Los Angeles. It's just, it's guys like it here. They're not struggling to afford housing.

And the weather is better than anywhere else in the country, not named Miami in the NBA. So, stars like L.A. You know, the migration out of California, a lot of it is housing costs. But these guys are living in the best neighborhoods. They don't worry about that. They're not losing a lot of sleep on the taxes. They make so much money. And by the way, did you see the heat dome or the heat shield, whatever they're calling it,

to happen to the country right now? It's like 90s everywhere. Like 72 in the same. South Vegas. No, we're very fortunate. You and I live in, I would say, because we don't have humidity like Florida, the best weather in America is in California. Well, I don't know, Phoenix is okay. I heard it's 110 there today. It's an oven for four and a half, five months. But I'm told it's a dry heat, so it's not that big of the years. I used to live in Vegas. Dry heat or not. Would you want somebody with a blow dryer in your face four months a year? So can you, like,

what do you do if you play pickleball in Phoenix? The indoor facility, where you can't. You play it like six in the morning. You can't play in 110 degree heat. heat, right? Well, no, it's a miserable. I mean, golf courses. Like, come on. Yeah. So it's, listen, it's, the NBA is a winter league. Now, Miami has better winter weather than Los Angeles. But if you want

big city entertainment, you want big city entertainment and Mediterranean weather, that's why pro athletes like Los Angeles. They're not sitting there, you know, struggling with the, you know, the cost of housing, which is just outrageous in California. I mean, it really

is. It's not great. But, you know, then there's, you could go to the comedy store tomorrow night and see, you know, a major superstar because there's one coming through all the time. Just a lot of options out of. Los Angeles has, I believe, 31 music venues. 31. If you think about Los Angeles, if tomorrow you said, we got to have the World Cup in a month in Los Angeles, you wouldn't have to build a stadium. The Coliseum, the Rose Bowl, SoFi, and the one the Chargers played at. You have four stadiums. You wouldn't have to be, you could have the Olympics in Los Angeles.

Los Angeles tomorrow, and you wouldn't have to build anything. I think you're coming in 28. You don't have to build anything. You have all these, you know, the aquatic centers at USC, UCLA. There's, it just, the people that complain about California, most of them don't live here. They haven't been here. Yeah. Come check it out for a week.

It's okay. Last night, I had, there was nowhere to park where I went to have dinner. I went to see a friend. It was, it was just insane at the beach. It was insane. So whatever people are telling you about the economy, I don't know what it is, but I couldn't get a chair. Well, they just see the videos of the homeless folks downtown, which it's bad, but you know, he's hanging out there.

Yeah, it's, it's, listen, pro athletes don't leave L.A. when they have choices very often. Even our coaches are stars. Harbaugh, McVeigh, Lincoln Riley. Harbaugh could have gone to a lot of places. You want to live in the South Bay. That's pretty good. We'll see you tomorrow. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite.

Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. guests. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.

I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show.

This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Cliford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast,

your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. On The Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.

Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. I mean, it was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host Kear Games. This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit or armor?

It signals to the world that you're not to be played with. And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to. Listen and learn the hard way on the IHard radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHart podcast. Guaranteed human.