The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 – Yankees Scruff, NFL Contract Incentives
Episode Date: January 3, 2025Covino & Rich put a bow on their topic of Yankees outdated player rules! 'SHOWTIME MAHOMES TRIVIA' brings the swag! They flashback to a 2007 Draft blunder. The guys dive into WEAK 18 contract ince...ntives. HERDLINE NEWS hears from an unhappy Jimmy Butler. Plus, 'WEEKEND HOBNOBBING' gets you set to stream this Saturday & Sunday! #crshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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But I wanted to, you know, put a little bow on the conversation about the Yankees being a little, maybe not a little, a lot outdated.
Free agency, there's still players out there in the mix.
Polar Bear Pete Alonzo is one of them.
The market dictates what you're worth.
I think he thought he was going to get a lot more.
Mets, Angels, Yankees.
There's a few teams, but they don't want to give polar bear Pete
any more than three or four years.
Looks like he's running out of options, too.
Right?
And when you look at some of the free agents that were signed,
the Yankees, you know, you could argue that they lost Juan Soto,
but they certainly, I think, have a lot of great
low-risk, high-reward players.
Yeah, it forced them to make better moves.
Bellinger.
Strategy, yeah.
Goldschmidt.
They got Williams in the bullpen now.
And it got me thinking because these poor guys now have to shave.
And I know you might say,
they're making tens of millions of dollars.
Who cares?
But I looked around the room.
Let's say, one, two, three, four, five.
There's seven men working here now.
In the hallway, I saw Jay Stu from the Gottlieb show.
I saw Big Mike.
I saw Profet.
There's roughly 10 people I saw on the last five.
minutes. All grown men,
all with facial hair. That would all
have to change their look if they
played for the Yankees. So I ask you,
is it the lamest rule
in all of sports in
2025? When you see a guy,
like Paul Goldschmidt, do you think this dude
wants to shave every day? You're in a slump.
You're on the road, 162 games
every morning waking up and
shaving the stumbling. You make
sacrifices for things that you care
about. And that could be your job.
That could be your relationship.
If your girlfriend says, you know, I really love you clean shaving.
Guess what?
You're probably shaving your beard.
There's a reason I stopped wearing earrings.
My girlfriend was like,
Is Paul Goldschmidt sleep with Brian Cashman?
Yeah, but again, you make those sacrifices for your job or things you care about.
It's your priority, right?
Like when we worked on ESPN on TV, they didn't say I had to, but they recommended I take my earrings off.
And you know what, quite frankly, maybe I should have anyway.
but because I was like
well you know I care about my job
and I want to present the way
the best way they want me to I'll take them all
I think you should have took out the diamond stud you wear
and put in a hanging Barry Bonsieering
from the 90s that would have been the look
I should have wore a Lawrence Taylor one
yeah I had one on standby but my point is
there's some compromise that maybe
you have to make when you're making
a ton of money and you're wearing the pinstripes
I know you put no value
in that neither did Juan Soto
but those are the rules and it's not that big of a deal.
Maybe that's part of the price you pay to play for the Yanks.
But as a generation fan, please let me say this.
I do for the first time agree.
Maybe it's the feel of these younger players and times are changing more than ever
or maybe it's becoming such an international game that, you know,
that's a big ask to tell some young Dominican kid who has a sweet shape up
and, you know, sort of known for having this look.
and he has this precision beard
that he takes a lot of pride in
to all of a sudden shave that
and not feel 100% stepping into the batters box.
To me, as a fan now, I'm like,
let this young dude feel his best.
I want him to feel as confident as ever.
And that whole Devin Williams side of it
made me think that there has to be a compromise there.
I don't think that the Yankees should
completely change their rules
because then you look like the 2004
Red Sox like a bunch of hobos, right?
Who looked like a bunch of
old homeless cowboys?
I think that there's a compromise where you don't look like a caveman
you could still rock facial hair
but like it has to be groomed, you know what I mean?
I think that's a fair adjustment.
I think there's a compromise.
You could say clean shaven is out.
You could say dumb observation, but hey, it is that week, you know.
I think it's time.
It's the week where everyone's just sort of chilling, doing nothing anyway.
Probably a lot of people sitting on their butt, not back to work yet,
scratching their stubble as we speak, thinking,
Yeah, you know what?
If I had a shave every single day,
that would be sort of a pain in the butt.
That would be a pain in the ass.
And I think we're looking at a time now
where these young players,
they don't value the pinstripes
like maybe previous generations.
And on top of that,
now you're telling them some young kid
every single day.
Right.
You have to shave.
I asked everyone instrument music.
What was the last time you actually shaved?
You're rocking like a thin beard.
What was the last time you shaved your face?
Shaved my face down to the skin.
would be going on probably about 11 years ago now.
Yeah.
Good luck playing for the Yankees.
Yeah, that's right.
Shave tomorrow.
I'm almost like music.
I'd say maybe...
They've never seen my slider, by the way.
Maybe five years ago, for the hell of it, one day.
I was like, yeah, let me clean slate shave.
Danny J. what was the last time?
I've never seen you with a shave face.
My family hasn't either.
I've had a five o'clock shadow since I was 15.
Man, 20 years.
See?
Yeah, it's a bigger ask than.
ever, especially in the times that we're living in too, because it's hard to get young people
just to show up at work.
The lack and level of respect people have for their workplace is so different now.
There's a lot of companies telling people they need to return to the office and they're like,
yeah, I don't want to.
So imagine telling that type of young person that you have to shave.
They're like, I don't even want to put on pants.
True.
Shave.
I mean, most guys have a razor.
They just don't shave their face.
Exactly.
So I do think we've gotten to the point, Rich, where compromise is the key here.
No doubt.
All right, let's do this.
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Oh.
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Hey, by the way, Ray, seriously.
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record. Which NFL QB holds the record for most passing yards in a single game? Is it A, Joe Burrow,
B, Dan Fouts, or C, Norm Van Brocklin?
Rich. Rich?
Big Dan Feltz.
No, you'd be wrong.
Yeah, you're thinking wrong.
Ray.
Ray for the steal.
Van Brock.
Yes.
Oh, nice.
Gross passing yards, single game,
554 yards.
Damn.
Waller back in the day.
I think Burrow was pretty close this year
in one of those games.
I got to look that up.
It was five-something, right?
And cousins, too, no?
Yeah. Ray is halfway to a
C&R Swiggy. All right. We move on to
round two. Round two. Patrick Mahomes here.
Pro bowler should be
Hi Patrick
What was I once quoted saying about my wheels
Your wheels?
My wheels
Throughout my whole football career
I've always known I wasn't the fastest guy
B
Luckily for me
Ingame speed is different than being timed
In the 40
Or C
It doesn't matter if I'm trying to run
On a broken ankle
The rest will make sure I limp to a first down
Oh, well, this is a hard one.
What was I quoted saying about my wheels?
Rich, see.
Sorry.
No, no.
Ray.
Okay.
Ray.
Let's go with B.
No.
Yeah, you be wrong, Ray.
Stop.
I'm going to take a.
Yeah, we're throwing that question out.
We move on to round three.
Round three.
Patrick B. Holmes here.
By the way, Kavino and Rich slaying it.
And for Colin on the herd.
She's going to say that.
Guys, honestly, I think you guys are like the best in the game.
What an endorsement.
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guest, Patrick Mahomes here.
Do you make it to the radio pro bowl?
This guy once told me that he wished he had me as a QB during his career.
Bill Parcell's tuna was the head coach for how many NFL teams?
A, 3, B, 4, or C5?
Ray.
Ray for the win.
it's a
No
So confident
Rich
Rich for the steel
Four teams right
So yes
Can you name them
Jets?
Giants
Patriots
And
Come on now
Cowboys
Yeah
There is
Extra credit
All right
So Ray and Rich
Both on the board
As we move to the next round
Here
All right round four
Which franchise
Infamously
Ran out of time
During the 2007
Draft
At pick number 7
A, the Vikings, B, the Titans, or C, the Bears.
Ryan.
Ryan got in there first.
Vikings, A.
Yes.
Got it.
Where we at, Danny G?
So Ray, Rich Ryan on the board as we moved around five.
Wow, it's getting heated.
Yeah, three-way tie.
Almost as heated as me when I found out I didn't make the Pro Bowl.
Sorry, Dr.
Honestly, right?
Maybe next year.
Aggravating.
Maybe next year.
All right, who's the third leading rusher in the NFL behind Seekwon and Derek?
Henry. A, Josh Jacobs,
B. John Robinson,
or C. Caron Williams.
Ray. Ray for the win.
A, Josh Jacobs. No.
Oh, man, I want you to win, bro. He's so confident.
I know. Ryan.
Ryan for the win.
C. C. C. C. Cairn Williams.
That music takes his first title. Get this man of Swiggy.
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We thank you for listening to the herd there in Georgia.
He doesn't care, I guess.
Maybe he cares about this because I'm working on my own pitch, guys.
What do you think?
You know, I'm big in the ketchup, right?
I'm thinking about making my own cereal mix.
Oh, like the Kelsey mix?
Yeah.
I'm thinking about combining Count Chocula with Frankenberry and booberry,
my home's monster mix.
What do you guys think?
I love it.
I'm in.
Come on, what do you guys think?
Come on, guys.
It's a good one.
Got my own Pro Bowl going on.
And by the guys, and congrats on your upcoming baby.
All right, guys.
Thank you.
Hey, hey, I'm out.
guys.
You know, Kavino and Rich.
You guys rule.
Later, guys.
Thank you.
Broke Patrick Mahal.
I love when he comes into the studio.
Later.
Hey, look at that.
You know what?
It was great to you.
He was firing up to that.
Hey, Kavino.
Music, I totally forgot that year when the Vikings missed their pick.
Oh, yeah.
What a blonde.
Danny G.
Is that one of those things that goes under the radar is like, what a...
For sure.
What a bonnet move?
Well, you know what it is, really?
It is the draft has developed into such an event.
event in the past like five to ten years that that falls just outside of that window
where it wasn't such a monumental television event where if that happened now oh it would be
it would be a story for until the next football season until training camp you know what you
made me think of music again ryan music here at music reports on social media you made me think
of the covid year when he did it from his basement remember that with panels in his weak-ass
desk, probably there in his socks,
doing the draft. Remember that how weak that was?
Didn't Bill Belichick sit at a table with his
dog? That's right. I mentioned
it earlier, oddly, remember I said Cliff Kingsbury?
We saw he had the sweetest house ever.
And again, as we
dive into 2025,
it's such a weird time stamp to me
to think that all that was five years ago.
You're like, what? And you
talk about the draft? Yeah.
Two things come to mind.
Number one, if you watch that great
30 for 30 from
Elway to Marino.
Back then, we're talking
early 80s. A lot of us were alive in the early 80s.
That was
such a different draft world.
The guys are sitting with like beige
landlines, like just in a conference room.
Like, hey, I think our pick is in.
The draft that went from simply a functional
day, it's a draft college of the NFL
to a spectacle.
Fans, viewing, parties, everything.
I remember. So the great writer, Peter King,
who's now retired from being a full-time columnist,
but he tells a story, I don't remember the year,
but he tells a story about when he was,
I think it was a Cincinnati-based writer,
and he met with the GM of the Bengals at the time,
and the guy goes, I'll tell you who our picks are.
And he's like, really?
He goes, well, yeah, you're going to print it in the paper.
We'll already have the picks in before tomorrow's morning paper comes out.
So that's how much media has changed.
Right.
is the GM of an NFL team gave him the list of who they were going to pick,
and he printed it in the paper because they knew it wasn't going to come out until the next day.
Wow.
And to think that it's like a family affair now.
People gather around.
You know, the guys have the hat ready to put on.
They, you know, all their friends and family.
And there's always a story where some guy's girlfriend jumps on them too quick and the mom pushes her away.
It's become such a big deal.
Millions of spectators just crowd the streets of whatever city.
is happening and now rotating the cities
and Rich this is some cool trivia
you said it's not talked about enough
who was the next team on the board
after the Vikings missed their
15 minute deadline there
Oh that's a good question
It was the Jags and they rushed in
to grab what quarterback?
Mark Brunel? Nope
What year is it again?
2007
Oh yeah so Blake Portles
Nope think of a famous limp
in college being
helped by some teammates
Who'd they pick?
Byron Leftwich.
Oh, man.
I suck.
You know, I want to music.
You should do this.
You should roll with this from now on.
You should tell people, because who's going to tell you you're wrong?
You should say that you're the creator of the do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
The draft sound?
You compose the draft sounds, and you own it.
Wow.
Who's going to tell you you wrong?
That's right.
No, didn't John Tesh do it?
See?
Maybe he did.
I don't know.
I don't know.
All right. Well, hey, we got more Kavino and Rich.
I know we want to talk about some of these incentives to be watching out for on Sunday.
Because like we said before, we love the NFL.
But truth be told, Vikings, Lions, all eyes on.
Maybe the biggest regular season game in the last 25 years of the NFL.
There's so much at stake.
But besides that, it's really a battle of draft position.
And who's resting, who's not?
unless Tampa really blows it, then they're going to end up winning that division.
Atlanta's out. Unless Denver blows it against all of Kansas City's backups.
Miami and Cincinnati just sitting there hoping and wishing.
So week 18, what to look out for.
We'll get to that next.
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We have a lot to get to.
We got weekend hobnobbing later this hour,
what you need to watch this weekend.
And right now, Rich, it's a bit of a cross-promotion.
I mentioned our bonus podcast, Overpromised,
again on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page.
We talked about all the incentives
this week in the NFL
because we were debating, is it week 18
or week?
W-E-E-E-A-K-A-K-18.
It's sort of week 18,
but there's incentives
and there's a couple more that I keep popping up
not necessarily fully based on the regular season,
but I just read that Baker Mayfield
not only does he have a ton of incentives
in his contract.
Making the playoffs,
he gets an extra half a mill.
For every playoffs,
For every playoff victory, it's another half a million dollars.
So Baker just keeps making money if the bucks keep winning.
So there's definitely incentives for Baker to definitely win this week.
Man, you thought he played hard before?
You're going to see a different level.
But his dude, Mike Evans, that's one of the big ones people talking about.
So if you need stuff to watch or you try to make a fun prop bet,
Mike Evans is five receptions and 85 yards away from a $3 million incentive.
to kick in. We already established that
the only game that we really care about is
Minnesota at Detroit, right?
But, all these incentives... Maybe.
Maybe Kansas City, Denver, if you're
pulling for the
Dolphins or Bengals to slide in, right?
But otherwise, it's Denver wins
they're in. But you're right, the only one is that Sunday
night game. But as far as incentives,
I think, I wouldn't be shocked if
Tampa piled on. People are
saying, like, you know, it's
week 18. Is anyone going to
really go all out?
Bucks are hosting the Saints and Saints are bad.
It's minus 14.
I don't know, maybe buy a half a point, get it down to 13 and a half.
I can't see the Bucs not winning by a couple touchdowns.
I think the coolest one.
And again, we talked about this on Overpromised.
If you want to take a further dive, Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page.
But it's the Gino Smith one because he could make up to $6 million extra.
If he gets 186 yards, if he wins.
By the way, the 186 is he.
easy. That's easy. And then he had
to reach 10 total win, so he needs
to win. And then he has to have
a past completion percentage of
70% are over, right?
So if he's able to accomplish
all three things there, he gets $6 million
extra. So $2 million
for every accomplishment there
in incentives. The easiest one for him
over 186 yards, right?
Gino's going to put up 200 yards. That's $2 million right
there. The win,
you're playing against the Rams in L.A.
They locked up that four seed. That's
not changing.
And Matthew Stafford's resting?
He's playing for another two million.
No, Kiron Williams.
No Matthew Stafford.
Cooper Cup, Pooka,
you're not seeing any of the stars
of the Rams.
So you got the 2 million in the passing yards.
You probably got the 2 million for the win.
So that's 4 million right there.
This is reason to watch anyway, just to see Gino Ball right here.
I hate to say, I'm not a mathematician, and I wouldn't even know.
And that passing percentage was the tricky one.
Hold on.
Do you have a Ti-82?
I don't.
Do you have an old school calculator?
What was the one you have with the little face on it?
A little professor.
Yeah.
I got my Texas instrument one.
His completion percentage right now is like 69.7 something.
What would he have to do week 18 to get it to 70?
Like if Gino Smith in the fourth quarter, if you see him just dump off like seven screen
passes in a row, I think we know what's up.
Yeah, he's got two million at stake.
But I'm saying if two millions at stake,
I don't know if you audible to, you know,
10 screen passes in the second half.
I wonder if like 22 out of 26 does it.
Does, you know, there's 25 out of 30 do it?
I don't, no, I don't know what he would need.
But that's the one that's a little tricky.
But Gino Smith has stuff to play for.
And listen, we always talk about a draft king sports book.
He could use Collins Code or R, CR show.
I think it might be a fun thing to do.
because the games, like, how the hell do you predict
Raiders hosting chargers?
How do you predict that?
How do you predict Washington going into Dallas?
Like, these are games that you don't know who's really playing
how long they're playing.
Some teams don't really benefit from winning.
The player incentives are just added reason to watch
because you're going to see extra fight.
Look, I'm not saying that this is the sole motivator.
You know, guys like Gino Smith and Baker Mayfield
play hard regardless.
but when you're playing for extra millions of dollars,
even though they make a lot of money,
you know,
you're going to see some extra fight,
some extra game,
and it makes us think about
how different life would be
if life, if our life,
if everybody's life was incentive-based,
especially at the workplace.
You think of how lazy everybody's become,
especially after COVID,
as we established before?
People don't even want to show up to the office.
People don't want to put pants on.
People wearing pajama pants since the beginning
of the holiday break.
I know,
I know it to listen. The market wouldn't dictate it.
We're not going to change the way athletes are paid.
So this is pipe dreaming, bro.
As the kids, this is a big dreaming, bro.
But imagine if athletes and just everyone in life got paid on an incentive scale.
You could say that's the sales world, right?
You could say people get their bonuses and commissions if you're in the sales world.
But most jobs are not commissioned sales based, right?
So if I told you Juan Soto, science of the Mets.
let's say the base salary is less.
But, yo, you hit over 280, that's 5 mil.
You hit over 40 home runs, that's 5 mil.
You wouldn't see people hot dog in it.
You wouldn't see people sitting out.
You would see people playing for their money.
And I think more life, forget about sports.
More life, period, should be incentive-based because people, like, we're almost forcing people to work that system because we've gotten lazy.
Look at the customer service.
have accepted in the past few years.
People have gotten lazy.
I think things should be incentive-based.
You're going to see the results this weekend.
And by the way, Greg Mercer in Pittsburgh,
Mercer Man hit us up in our comments on Overpromised.
And I think he's a scientist, this dude.
He knows his numbers.
He goes, if 70% is right,
he could throw for 67% completion in his last game
and remain at 70.
He says,
Wait, he gets, what?
He says that Gino is at 70.2% right now.
Okay.
So if 70.2 is correct, he could throw for 67% in his last game and remain at 70.
Like 20 for 30 would be a normal amount for throws a game.
So he's saying that-
Cano could do all three?
Yeah, he could do all three if that's the case.
That means Gino would make, again,
if he throws for 186 yards,
if he gets the win,
totaling 10, and he stays
at 70, 70% completion.
That means he could get
6 million extra this weekend.
But again, imagine if your relationship was
based on that. Incentives.
You'd be getting extra loving.
You'd be getting all sorts of results that you're just not
getting in regular life anymore.
Well, to break it
down to something really simple.
When someone puts the gratuity
already on a check,
Does that give them any incentive to work harder?
Hell no. No way.
People just don't care anymore.
I mean, I get it because they're trying to avoid cheap skates.
But when you're at a, let's say you were at a party of eight to ten of your buddies watching football at the bar.
When the check comes and they already put the gratuity in, part of me is like, I may have given you more, but I'm not going to give you more now.
You already put it on.
Like, if life was incentive-based, I do wonder how that would change things.
if there was a way
I mean even in our job right
let's say ratings wise right that would be the way
to measure it says they do that so that's a thing in our world
no but if we were getting them
because I haven't gotten any of you
no I'm saying we're syndicated and something
I'm saying if you're in a local market like we have buddy
like our buddy Nico and Arizona
people would be putting in extra effort
you don't think you'd be more of a stickler
as the rich and Covino and Rich to other people
if our pay
was determined
on how well we did, you don't think
you'd be like, hey, do this and do that
and be more of a shock caller, making sure people
did everything to get us?
Like if they were stakes for everyday show?
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you would care more.
Well, hey, something to watch this Sunday.
How different would life be if everything was
incentive-based? Not right. Well, hey,
at Covino and Rich, you could hit us up there.
Let's hit up Ryan
for the Heard Line News. Let's go, bud.
No, no, no.
Turn on the news.
This is the Heard Line News.
All right, guys, the Cowboys' record of three straight 12-win seasons.
Well, we all know that it's come to an end.
Yes.
Questions, though, continue to swirl about regarding Mike McCarthy and his status as their head coach going forward.
Well, Jerry Jones was asked if the final game of the season will factor into that decision.
And here's what he had to say, quote, no.
The Hayes in the barn as far as our staff is concerned.
I don't think there's something that would happen out there Sunday impacting where we're going to go as we go forward, end quote.
So, yeah, I'm trying to get a read.
Yeah, I mean, listen.
It would feel that means they're going to let him go because if they've already made a decision,
there would have been an announcement on a contract extension.
I mean, all right, so they lose to Washington on Sunday.
Let's say that happens.
Washington, practically a touchdown favorite.
They're going to try to stay fresh.
playing some of their starters.
Seven and ten.
Dak wasn't there for a lot of the season.
C.D. Lamb. There's injuries.
But, you know, do you give McCarthy the benefit of the doubt and say,
stick with him? Is that even a question?
Would you be shocked if they stuck with McCarthy?
I would not be shocked.
I mean, listen, Jerry Jones just has a reputation for making those moves.
Well, you could say the same Kyle Shanahan injuries,
had a rough season. And they have given
full confidence in John Lynch and Shanahan
to continue forward. I don't know
if Mike McCarthy's given that grace in Dallas.
Sure. We'll see. Yeah, I don't know if they'll
keep him, but if you were to present
the pro-mic McCarthy argument
is this is his fifth season
as the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
And at least in the regular season,
he has either
won 12 games or DAC has been
hurt. Those are the two options.
Yeah. It's like that's easy. You see
that 49-ish stat over the last like 20-some
years. They either make it to the NFC championship.
game or miss the playoffs.
It's interesting.
You can think of another guy like that.
How do you feel about the dolphins,
Mike McDaniels?
Is that like one more year?
And it's like, hey, if they,
if this team doesn't show signs of playoff life,
then is that a failed experiment?
I guess when it's about wins and losses.
That's how it generally stacks up.
Let's turn our attention to another head coach in the NFL.
Well, actually, let's do a group of them.
We are, of course, looking at some of the end of season awards.
We've already talked a lot about Pro Bowl selections.
Well, here's another accolade up for grabs.
Coach of the Year.
And if you look at Draft Kings,
there is a current runaway favorite for Coach of the Year.
Hmm.
What do you think it is?
Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbell, second.
Oh.
Minnesota.
Kevin O'Connell.
Kevin O'Connell is your answer.
Currently minus 1,000.
Dan Campbell in second, plus 550.
Andy Reed plus 1,400.
Dan Quinn plus 2,000.
Jim Harbaugh, Sean McVeigh,
Tomlin.
And then Sean Payton.
I'm actually kind of surprised
Sean Payton wasn't higher on that list.
I agree.
He was behind, like,
even a Sean McVey who looked,
the Rams have had a nice season,
but I feel like the expectations
were way more outperformed
on the Broncos behalf than the Rams.
Listen, if you listen to any host
on any network six months ago,
no one would have thought
the Broncos made the playoffs
over teams like Cincinnati.
The Jets had high hopes.
Like, there were teams that are out of the mix.
Jacksonville showed no signs of life.
You know, so.
But that makes the,
game even juicier this
week. Oh, juicy.
Who's playing for
coach of the year? Sure. Yeah.
By the way, they call
O'Connell. He's the quarterback whisperer. Oh, yeah.
Just knows how to get Sam
Donald right. We'll finish up with this. Another day,
another NBA star would hope
that stars could find
himself a new team. The heat took
an L against the Pacers last night. That's
hardly the story. This is
actually the story we're keeping an eye on. Here's
Jimmy Butler after the game.
I want to see me get my joy back from playing basketball.
Wherever that may be, we'll find out here pretty soon.
But I want to get my joy back.
I'm happy here off the court.
But I want to be back to somewhere dominant.
I want to hope.
And I want to help this team win.
Right now, I'm not doing that.
Can you get your joy back here on the court?
Probably not.
Oh, bold statement right there.
I mean, there's nothing really to dissect.
He's not happy there.
He's happy in Miami, but just not on the court with that team.
and he's not going to help this team win.
He wants out.
They're not great, but they're over 500.
I mean, and that's in the Eastern Conference.
Not a lot of teams over 500.
Jimmy Butler is one of those mood guys.
And, you know, I'm not used to seeing him this discontent.
Like, this guy does not look happy there.
And that's not the Jimmy Butler you want to see.
You're not going to win with this.
He's not sad face coffee.
You're not, yeah.
No, no, but you're not going to win with sad Jimmy Butler.
That's just not even in his character.
He's not happy.
It's as clear as it.
day. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you.
Well, that's the news.
And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lye News.
All right, well, hey, coming up, what to
watch this weekend? Of course, the NFL, of course,
some NBA, but what else is going on that you might
want to keep your eye on? We do it. It's called Weekend
Hobnobbin. And for Colin, more Kavino and Rich.
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We have some big news.
What's the news, name?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
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This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
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Happy New Year.
Hope you're having a great one.
Hope you have a nice weekend.
You're taking the...
your Christmas stuff?
Yeah, because there's no real fun football to watch until late at night.
So, yeah, that's my plan.
It's like the weakest part of the year as far as once you take down those Christmas decorations.
The walls look empty.
Everything, your house looks lame.
Like, everything looks empty and like, this is where we live?
Where's all the decorations?
Then, again, like I always say, you snap your fingers in the Super Bowls here.
January is like the longest yet shortest month.
And we'll be up there.
Next week, I'm excited because this weekend, you got, of course, week 18, which is a little
lackluster like we've been talking about, but
Wildcard weekend, now
that you have six games
and they extend into that
Monday night now, that's
that to me,
second only to the divisional weekend,
because divisional weekend in the NFL to me is the, by
far, like when you're down
to the final eight teams,
and I'd like to say we
know those eight teams, but there's always one
team that sneaks in, but Ryan, you and I were talking about
how in the AFC, it would be shocking
if it wasn't. Kansas City,
Baltimore, Buffalo,
and whatever that fourth team is there,
they're almost just like miscongeniality.
Yeah, just happy to be a part of it.
Like maybe the Texans or Pittsburgh or someone,
but it really is a matter of,
yeah, like four weeks ago, you thought,
oh, wow, this Steelers team could be one of those.
And now the last three weeks, you're like,
this Steelers team is not one of this.
I hate to say this because we have a lot of friends
and listeners that are Steelers fans, but
midway through the season, I said,
guys, really happy for you.
but Kavino would back me up.
Never at any point did I believe that they were better than the Ravens in that division.
Because they led that division up until a few weeks ago.
And I said, I said, dude, head to head that first matchup.
I said, dude, they're good.
But they're not like 13 and 4, 12 and 5 good.
I'm like, they will come back to reality.
And that's exactly what happened.
They're likely a 10 and 7 type of team makes the playoffs.
But AFC to me sort of set.
And then the NFC, do you?
think that you could say Sunday nights game is the most impactful regular season game in the last decade?
Oh yeah.
Like we already said, there's so many, so many reasons to watch.
Whoever wins glides to the NFC championship and the other team is, you know, battling or what?
Whoever wins, coach it a year, in my opinion.
Yeah, that's how I see it.
I mean, and yeah.
Just take a look for one second at the different paths.
these teams would take
and then we'll get into
weekend hobnobbin I know
right here let's look at the playoff situation
if Detroit is the one seat
right
then Minnesota then has to go
away go play in Tampa
yeah then they got to play
then they got to go play
Detroit again because that would be a wild card
probably the lowest seed then they have to go play
in Detroit again like it is
so much mistake yeah so much it's
Now, Minnesota, I think Minnesota wins.
Viking fans should be super excited.
You might make it to the Super Bowl.
So, all right, you know what?
Let's do it. Let's get to Weekend Hobnavin.
Living for the weekend.
You're winning bets for talking points if you get stuck socializing.
You ever done anything dangerous?
You ever dance with the devil and the pale moonlight?
That is dangerous.
Friday brings us.
Weekend Hobnobnob.
So, of course, you're going to be watching Minnesota at Detroit and all your foos ball.
but this is what else you need to check out this weekend.
So you have something to talk about when you go back to work officially.
Weekend hobnobin, we do it every Friday on the Kavino and Rich Show.
I'm going to start off by recommending a movie I already saw.
So I'm recommending it to you.
And that is Nosferatu.
Stop it.
Oh, yes.
Yes, the story of Nosferatu.
Oh, yes.
Yes, I'm telling you, you can say poor man's Dracula.
I'm saying this could be nominated for a few awards.
I enjoyed it.
People that don't know Nosferato
because I did it, when you do that voice, it just weirds me out.
Nosferato.
I don't know what that means.
It's like a weak-ass Dracula.
It's good, man.
I say you go to the theaters and check it out.
Also, you got the 82nd Golden Gloves,
the annual Golden Globes.
But our pal, our good pal,
who blew up after the Tom Brady Roast,
Nikki Glazer's hosting,
Paramount Plus.
that's on the 5th at 8 p.m.
So you got your Golden Gloves.
Not a big fan of the Golden Gloves, but I'm a fan of Nikki Glazer, rooting for her.
American Pickers, big fan of Mike Wolf.
Complete season.
25 available on Hulu this weekend.
And can I shamelessly...
Actually, I'm just going to promote it.
Nothing shameful about it.
Overpromised our bonus podcast on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page.
Episode 74.
We talk about player incentives this weekend.
And we do that Kelsey Mix.
cereal taste test live on overpromised.
Um, Netflix.
Squid Game season two.
I'm up to episode four now.
I can't believe how old the main dude got, though.
I didn't know.
I didn't know it was the same dude.
He looked like, uh, he aged the way of president ages.
Turned into an instant meme.
Seriously.
But if you could get first, uh, get past the first two episodes, which is a lot of set up and
like, I'll be honest.
Like, how would you even describe it?
storyline, but to me, do you watch that for the storyline or just the
Squid Game itself? I thought the first episode was pretty good.
Squid Game Season 2, that's trending number one.
If you did not catch it at the theater, and you want to watch
with the wifey, the kids, the girlfriend, Wicked, you could watch now from the
comfort of your own home. No way, really?
30 bucks to buy, 20 bucks to rent, but then again, that's like the price of
a movie ticket in some places. So Wicked's available to watch at home.
Germany
Love is blind
Love is blind
You're that desperate for trash TV
They're going to watch a German edition of this?
Maybe not
Nate Margatesi's stand-up special
I thought that was pretty good
You can watch out with the kids too
It's sort of rated for family fun
He takes a lot of pride and being family friendly
He's a funny dude
And
If you want
There's a show where
You live on an island with the
with your in-laws. This is a dating show on Netflix.
How would you, how would you,
your girlfriend's fans are cool, but would you want to be on an island stuck with them?
I don't want to be on an island stuck with you.
And of course, you've talked about it. I've talked about it on our regular show.
If you're not on it yet, Dexter, original sin.
Yeah, now you're talking. Fantastic, the casting?
If you love Dexter back in the day on Showtime, it's a prequel.
It really is fantastic.
Really good.
Anything on your radar, Ryan? What are you watching this weekend?
So I'm notoriously bad about keeping up with shows during the football season,
but now that we're getting a little bit of breathing room, I'm trying to catch up on Silo, Apple TV.
I caught up last night. So I'm three episodes into this newest season.
So we're getting there. We're starting to catch up a little bit.
It's getting really good.
Okay.
Do you think, by the way, if you don't watch Silo, do you think this is going to be some type of resolution at the end?
Like, we're going to realize what happened to the world?
I certainly hope so.
There's no payoff.
I'm going to be aggregate.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, you know, let's talk about this off the year.
I want to talk about Sile.
Danny G., what's on your radar?
We talk so much NFL that I usually give you some college,
just some smaller bowl games today and tomorrow.
We're waiting for next Thursday and Friday, of course,
the Cotton Bowl and the Orange Bowl,
Notre Dame at Penn State and Ohio State at Texas.
So can't wait for that big payoff.
Nice.
Anything on your radar?
Yeah, you gave away all the ones that I wanted to watch.
I wanted to watch.
I got to catch up on Squigame.
I want to watch Wicked.
because I haven't seen it yet.
Shrinking on Apple TV is a good show too.
Shrinking's great.
So, hey, lots to watch.
And, of course, week 18 of the NFL, enjoy.
Thank you, Colin, for letting us fill in music.
You demand.
Appreciate you, Ryan.
Danny G. Spotty.
I will see you later.
Arribadachi, baby.
See you in the Promise Land.
Goodbye, guys.
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We invented a podcast?
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Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen.
We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mike.
Day and head writer Streeter Seidel
help an a cappella band with their
between songs banter. Where does your group
perform? We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends
on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only
legal, but encouraged.
It's the enhanced games.
Some call it grotesque.
Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Either way, the podcast's superhuman
documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's
telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode,
we're cutting through the noise,
breaking down the biggest moments in sports
and giving you the real story behind the headline.
And we're going straight to the source,
the athletes themselves.
Their locker room stories,
their reactions in the moment,
and the stuff nobody gets to hear.
Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12
in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
I'm Michelle McPhee,
and I've been unraveling
the strangest criminal alliance
I've ever reported
on a Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman.
Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud.
But how long can this alliance last?
Tell me what you know.
Is somebody coming after me?
Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an I-Heart podcast.
Guaranteed Human.
