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Episode Date: October 29, 2020

This week on Inside the (Rob) Parker, Rob reacts to the Dodgers winning their first World Series title since 1988, Justin Turner returning to the field to celebrate after testing positive for COVID during Game 6, and the talk of a Dodgers dynasty.Guests: Former MLB All-Star Slugger Eric Davis and Bleacher Report MLB Writer Scott Miller discuss the Dodgers World Series win, and look back on a one of a kind 2020 season. Click here to subscribe and download all of the latest Inside the Parker podcasts and follow Rob on Twitter!! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You give us 22 minutes and we'll give you the scoop on Major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame voter number 86. Rob Parker. All right, welcome into the podcast, the World Series edition. We have so much to talk about. I'm your host, Rob Parker. And coming up on the podcast, we'll talk with former Major League outfielder, Eric Davis. Also, from the Bleacher Report, one of the best MLB columnist, Scott Miller.

He joins us. That plus foul or fair. Let's go. To lead off, it's getting wrong. Rob. And keep them up. Rob's hot take on the three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. Number one. Yes, everybody should be loving L.A.

I know except for people in Tampa Bay were hurt, but the L.A. Dodgers finally, finally won the World Series. This team has been loaded for years. We've been talking about it, nothing but disappointment and heartbreak. And instead, on the third try and four years, years at the World Series, the Dodgers franchise finally wins its first World Series championship since 1988, stars all over the place. Corey Seeger, who was the World Series MVP, deserved it, batted 400, and was incredible

because he won the National League Championship Series MVP and also the World Series MVP. He had two home runs, five RBI, six walks. a monster. Clayton Kershaw, who we know has been dragged through the mud and rightfully so for his poor performance in the postseason. He finally got his first World Series championship. He went 2 and 0 in the World Series, went in two of the four games that the Dodgers won with a 2.31 ERA and struck out 14, only walked three. So that's another feather in the cap right there. Dave Roberts, the long-suffering manager. He gets it done as well, his first World Series championship.

And L.A. continues to celebrate. They saw LeBron James and the Lakers win a championship. And now here in 2020, it's the Dodgers. This is the second time, the last time it happened, the Dodgers and the Lakers winning a championship. It goes back to 1988. And I'm going to say this, as a person new to living in Los Angeles,

I believe the Dodgers are bigger than the Lakers in Los Angeles. Yes, I said it. I really believe it. The Dodgers have such an imprint on this community. Number two. Boo on Justin Turner. I'm sorry. He gets pulled from the game because his COVID test finally comes back positive.

And I get it. Oh my goodness. Imagine the dilemma of you winning a World Series that you've put out blood, sweat, and tears, and then the time comes to celebrate. If you came out of the game and out of the dugout and had to isolate, how could you go back on the field and celebrate with your teammates? With no mask. What?

I get it. 35 years old. You've waited for this moment all your life. and you go back out and you celebrate and you know what I'm not going to be major league baseball put out a stern statement about it and I'm with baseball I think and here's a piece of it quote while a desire to celebrate is understandable turn his decision to leave isolation and enter the field was wrong and put everyone he came in contact with at risk, end quote. MLB is right on the money.

It just was selfish. You can't do it, especially when baseball did such a great job and all the players to keep everybody COVID free for such a long time, the entire playoffs, and then to run out there, that was a mistake. And Justin Turner should not have done it. Number three. I'm sorry. I know people want to pat the Tampa Bay radio.

on the back. What a great job, a small payroll, all the analytics work and all this other stuff and try to make the Tampa Bay race feel good about where they are and how they came up, runners up in their second World Series. But I'm going to tell you this. This should be a history lesson that analytics just doesn't get you to win a World Series. We saw it with the Oakland A's and Billy Bean for 30 years and what he did there. They never were able to get there or even you know, advanced in the postseason. And then again, analytics had a big cause or big reason

on why manager Kevin Cash pulled out Blake Snell, his ace in a one-nothing game after a hit because the numbers told him so. I'm not buying the analytics and the cheap roster. I don't think you can win a World Series that way. The best players come through, not some stat sheet or printout, and talking about a guy.

hitting in May and June and trying to say that that's going to work in October. I'm not buying it. Number four. And stop to talk about the Dodgers and the dynasty. My goodness. Really? They have a lot of free agents coming up. The people of Dodgers have to figure out what they're going to do.

And I'm just going to warn you. There's a team south of L.A. in San Diego, the Padres, with Fernando Tatis, Mani Machado. Mike Clevenger and other young players who are coming. So stop with the Dodgers dynasty. To me, this could be the end of the Dodgers window, really, of them winning. I know everybody automatically thinks they're going to win again, but I'm not buying it. Here comes the big interview.

Listen and learn. Oh, it's so good. All right, now let's welcome to the podcast. Former Major Leaguer, one of the best center fielders. saw play baseball. Eric Davis, Eric DeRead. Welcome to the podcast. How you doing? I'm doing good. How are you doing, man? Man, doing great. It is the World Series. Yeah, man. I feel good. I'm no complaints, my man. You know that. Let's talk about the World Series. And you know what it's, what it feels like to win

a World Series because you did it in 1990 with the Reds. Just give me your thoughts on the Dodgers ending that 32-year drought? Well, first, we've got to give the Dodgers a whole lot of credit for bringing the monkey bets to the team because they have gone to the World Series in the playoffs, six, seven, eight years in a row, the World Series a few times and coming up short to recognize that you do need something. Most teams that are in that position don't think that they can get better or they need a piece. so you give them credit for making that move from

Mookie because he is and was the missing rink. He took a lot of pressure off of everybody else offensively with his ability to do the things that we witnessed and you watched all five of his tools come into play in various parts

of the postseason and having one at the top really ignited them with his base running, his ability to steal bases, his ability to score the players that should have been outs where the average person on that team in the past wouldn't have scored. So that was the first thing. The second thing is they feed off each other. I mean, they played well, they hit well, if you're looking at what they did with two outs and two

strikes, and you just don't get that when you're talking about the best pitchers in the game, and normally you have that during the postseason. So their ability to grind and stay within the science of what they was trying to accomplish was phenomenal. I think they got a little lucky with their pitching, with the bullpen jobs and all kinds of things. If you look at, Coachal was steady, well, Walker Bueller was phenomenal, and then they got feelings.

So I thought they was lucky there. But they played baseball and they won the championship. Let's speak about Kershaw. I mean, we know he's probably the best picture of this generation. His numbers speak for themselves, E.D., 2.44 career E.R.A. But in the postseason, it was two runs higher, and, you know, the Dodgers hadn't been able to win. And a lot, Kers had had some clunkers in the postseason. But this time in the World Series, he won two games.

What does that do for his legacy and how people look at Kershaw? Shaw this time. Well, I think Justin Verlander would argue that. I think Swarger would argue that if you're looking at the years that Berlander had in this generation, he's

on MVP, he's won multiple Tsai Youngs, and he's won title. So Scher's the same thing. So he's not that guy that you can say he was the best guy in his era. But his ability

to keep the Dodgers in the game was huge for his psychic watching him make the pitches and make the the outset he needed to get

honestly I just think that the postseason is about matchups and I thought he had an advantage over the right-hand hitters that he was facing so the U.S. have to give him credit for doing what he did, but if you look at almost every start he had,

he was out, a swing, a double-player away from people talking about. He was at it again, so I'm just grateful for him that it didn't go that way, and he was able to get through what he wanted to get through for his legacy. But I don't think his legacy will ever, in the postseason, outshadow what he did before the regular season because it's just not even close to him dominating and having a one-point-some ERA and 20-some wins in the things that he had prior to the postseason. No doubt.

Our guest is Eric Davis, who is in the Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame, two-time All-Star, three-time Gold Glove winner. E.D., how surprised are you that baseball? made it through for the most part. After the early COVID positive tests, they went a long time with no one getting positive and played through a 60 game season, all the playoffs.

Are you shocked that baseball was able to get a season in? Oh, not really shocked. I'm more shocked of not having anybody test positive all the way up until Justin Turner did. and not really having to cancel so many different games and different things of that nature. We have some instances where you had some flow-ups and some things of that nature, but it was just like anything else. Nobody knew what to expect.

You couldn't really use the NBA when I know a lot of parallels was trying to compare the NBA. When you're talking about you can put a floor anywhere, you can put a room anywhere. You're talking about maybe 25 guys to a team, and you're talking about almost 60 guys on the baseball team when everybody's playing is apples and oranges. But to have it in their cities and have these guys travel, you didn't really know what was going to happen,

but for them to get through it was amazing. You got to get the players a lot of credit because of the sacrifices that they had to make, because when you live that life, you used to doing what you want to, even where you want to, move how you want to, and now you can't,

and it's like, okay, who's going to go against this and not doing a ban and stuff? But you saw everybody, especially the postseason, they saw what was at stake, and it was a beautiful thing to watch them get through it.

No doubt. What about, you mentioned Justin Turner, you know, obviously he came out of the game, tested his results came through. He had tested positive. Was it a bad look for him to be celebrating massless with his teammates?

I know it's a big moment. You just win the World Series. You don't want to isolate, but to put your teammates at risk after knowing you're positive, was that a good look or not? No, that's not a good look. And, you know, people are going to voice your opinion on what should happen and who should do what we're in, how.

And it's all fine until there's repercussions that come up and people ask themselves, was it really worth it? And the answer, when you're talking about the possibility of dying or affecting someone and not know the outcome, me being massed

mass is not worth it. Me being able to take some pictures with the trophy, I get all that. And I'm one of those guys who was in the hospital when we moved on. So you know I was licking to be able to take a picture.

I was right when I see you were to and tear in kidney for almost two months. So I know with missing feels like and you never want anybody to miss that, but at what cost I just don't think that it was the right thing to do. I think they could have

isolated him a little bit and put him out there and let him do that. And then if they wanted to do that privately inside the power some guys gave him whatever they wanted to give him. I think they could have did it a better way. No doubt. All right. Hey, last thing, you're a Los Angeles native.

You know, the Lakers won the championship. Now the Dodgers. This is like 1988 all over again. How special is it for Los Angeles to be the sports capital of the United States right now? I kind of got mixed emotions about it because of everything that's going on in 2020 and having to go through the childs and tribulation

as a country. Sports is always a way of making people forget about things, but I just don't know how you really view it when you're talking about how it had to come to pace and having been in the bubble

when you heard so many different things about the bubble and so many different players talked about not being able to do so. things and not have any adversity and should it be an aster. I don't know. But if you fund our lane, you want to see a championship. Is this really what we're used to? Nobody's really used to a team being crowned in a bubble and not being able to be at the

forum when Madignan was doing a Staples Center when Kobe and Shaq were doing what they were doing and then Kobe by himself. and then the Lakers in 88 what the crowd and the bench coming call. We missed all of that. So to what degree is it the same? It's not the same. But the results are the same. And everybody looked at 32 years and not the Lakers and the Dodgers

and the champions in the same year. So I'm quite sure the city going to ride with it because everybody has been talking about it. So I'm in Arizona now, but I'm from LA from the heart and stuff like that. Yep. I go back to Jack King Cook and stuff, you know, so I'm a real Laker. I'm not a Laker fan where people that jumped on the band. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

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and it certainly was historic. L.A. set a postseason record with 59 two outruns, 44-2 strike runs, and their 5.6 runs per game and 30 homers were both National League records. Randy Rosa Rana set the world on fire with 10 homers, 29 hits, and 64 total bases, all setting MLW. records for a single postseason. But the big story coming out of game six was Ray's manager Kevin Cass taking out starter Blake Snell after cruising through five and a third innings while striking out nine. Snell threw to 73 pitches and the Dodgers top four hitters,

that's Seeger, Turner and Muncie, when it combined one for 16 with 11 strikeouts in the series against Snell, though he was removed before facing those guys a third time in game six. Now against all other race starters in the series, those four guys hit 353 with four homers, nine RBI and only seven strikeouts. We also saw one of the largest plays in terms of win probability added in postseason history and Brett Phillips walkoff in game four. In fact, as far as the win probability graph for the game goes, looked like a mountain range the entire game, by the way.

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All right, J.R. Is it foul or fair to suggest that the Major League Baseball World Series champions should have an asterisk by their names because of the COVID-shortened season was missing 102 games. That is a foul ball. Despite the unprecedented nature of the season, getting all your players to the finish line healthy, mine is Justin Turner, of course,

and being able to win the whole ball of wax is impressive and memorable. There were no fans, there were a couple of weird rule changes, and the season was shortened. But Mookiee Betts won another World Series for Black Baseball, and Dave Roberts finally got that albatross from around his neck, and he, along with Dusty Baker, showed that black managers matter. The rise of raised rookie, Randy and Rose Arena, and the way the Dodgers won,

just makes you appreciate Magic Johnson's multifaceted executive leadership and ownership even more. So black baseball owners matter, too. And how fitting that in the year which MLB players acknowledge the racial movement in America by supporting its players and in the 100th anniversary celebration of the Negro League that Jackie Robertson's team that Dodgers win the World Series. All the huge stars played and got paid and COVID couldn't ruin the day. Nah, I'm counting this one, and MLB should too.

Take out the papers in the trash. It's time for Trash Talk Twitter. Your chance to trash anyone or anything in Major League Baseball. This tweet comes from Mazz in Detroit. And he tweeted me this. Remember when Tom Kelly took the ball from Jack Morris in the sixth inning? Kevin Cash is the goat in a bad way. The only way TB was going to win that game was one to nothing.

and Snell would have had to go in the distance. At least talk to your guy first. We should be watching Game 7 on Wednesday. What a sin. Thanks for nothing, Kevin Cash. Hashtag cashed out. Hashtag overmanaged. That's right.

If you want to be on trash talking, hit me up on my Twitter like Maz did at Rob Parker, FS1. When Rob was a newspaper, columnist. He lived by this motto. If I'm writing, I'm ripping. Let's bring in a writer or broadcaster, older new. All right, now let's welcome in Scott Miller, of course, from the National Baseball columnist for Bleacher Report and Sirius XM MLB Network Radio Analysts. And Scott, thanks for joining us. And you covered the World Series. You were there. Just give me your initial thoughts, the Dodgers on paper,

look like the team to win the World Series, and they got it done. Yeah, they did. I thought, you know, if you play that old baseball parlor game where you take the two teams and you go position by position, first base, Dodgers raise, who's better, second base, third base, all the way around, you do that. The Dodgers by far were the better team. I think they were more accomplished, deeper, strong.

longer, on and on. Credit to the race, they got to the sixth game of the World Series, but basically, you know, being the sum is greater than the parts kind of play. You know, and they gave the Dodgers. There are a couple moments in the World Series where they gave the Dodgers a scare. You know, they even the series after two games. And then, of course, the fabulous game Saturday night that ended with Brett Phillips acting like a human airplane. You know, the game that first World Series game in history,

that were a walk-off play included two fielding errors by the other team. I mean, moments like that are what set various World Series apart from others. Overall, this wasn't necessarily a classic World Series. I mean, you know, six games. Dodgers led most of the way. But, yeah, I think, you know, better team won without a doubt. No doubt. I think you're right about that game, four.

that is what made this World Series memorable. Otherwise, you're right. It would have just been a run of the mill. How many have you covered now, Scott? I know I was in Arlington, Texas, with you for some of those games. We talked about it. How many years now have you covered the World Series? Yeah, you and I did.

It was a nice visit. Nice to see you in Arlington. And, yeah, we had a dinner together in the press box before one of the games. That was outstanding. I have covered now. this is my 26th World Series. So I've got to add up the exact numbers, but it's like 147 consecutive World Series games, something like that.

So I've been fortunate. I've been blessed. I've been blessed. I've seen a lot of memorable things in the last 26 years worth of World Series. Who benefits the most from this? I mean, there's a lot of people whose careers and legacies were in the line. When you talk about the Dodgers, Clayton Kershaw, of course, Dave Roberts, who, you know, as manager, had the Dodgers not gotten it done, there would have been a lot of questions.

This team has won eight straight National League West titles. They were en route to being maybe the MLB's Buffalo Bills, right, had they lost this. But they won it. And who comes out looking pretty good now? Yeah, you know, I mean, the Dodgers needed to get this done. You know, I mean, not just, you kept hearing about Oro Hersheiser and Kurt Gibson and those guys. going all the way back to 1988. The Dodgers hadn't won a World Series

at 32 years. But it wasn't just an organizational thing. Even that stretched back 32 years, it was even recent years. This was the Dodgers' third world series in the past four years. And you mentioned the Buffalo Bills. You know, they dropped this one.

That's exactly, you know, they would have been classified with, you know, the team that kept getting there and could never get the job done. So, you know, I think, you know, the thing that I liked about the Dodgers winning it, the core of that team's been together now for several years. So you could really appreciate, you know,

if you watched them over the past several years, and if you covered them, you know, the Clayton Kershaw's, the Justin Turner, the Cody Bellinger, the Corey Seegers, you know, the Kenley Jansons. On and on, you know, there are so many of those players that have come so close. You know, it's not like they changed the team up every two years. You know, the bulk of that team came so close in 17 and 18.

So, you know, I think there's, you know, unless you're a raised fan or you're maybe a Giants fan or your heart is completely calloused, you have to feel good for the Dodgers overall. But, yeah, within that, Clayton Kershaw, I would say especially needed this because, you know, his reputation, for three times, Sam Cy Young winner, who's going to be a Hall of Famer. His reputation is taking a beating in October, and there's so many people fall into that knee-jerk stretch now

where they're even giving credit for what he's done for the bulk of his career. You know, they hear Clayton Kirshall, I have a guy that never could get it done October. So I think he really needed this. And like Dave Roberts said late last night, Robbie said, you know, Clayton Kirchoff from forever on will be known. now is a World Series winner and a Hall of Fame or when that day comes.

And nobody can ever take that away, and that's going to trump every other criticism of him. And that behind Clayton Kirsh, I think, Dave Roberts. You know, I mean, managers, I think in this era of the internet and Twitter, you know, managers, almost all of them take a beating now in October.

Even the smartest ones that win, they'll have a couple games earlier in the World Series where people are like, you're an idiot. why did he do this, why did he do that? Dave Roberts certainly had his moments, you know, and, you know, even in this world series, you know, Rob, Saturday night, you know, before the crazy walk off, you know, Dave Roberts had Pedro Baez in the game in the sixth inning,

and then Byers got through the inning, and Dave Roberts said, good job, you know, basically your night is done. Then the Dodgers took the lead in the top of the seventh, and Roberts told Byers to go back in there, and Bayers got lit up. And you can't do that. I mean, so Roberts wasn't perfect this world surge, but he, you know, he too, I think is vindicated by finally win.

Our guest is Scott Miller National Baseball columnist for the Bleacher Report. And Scott, the other one is, obviously, is Kevin Cash, the manager of the race, who took out Blake Snell and a lot of people, Twitter weren't crazy, and people were like, this dude is dealing. But he made the move. and, you know, Tampa Bay is one of their strengths is their bullpen and they let the team down. Where were you on that move and when the move was made? I'm glad you asked it in that way, Rob, when the move was made.

In the moment real time, I was saying, no, no, no, don't do this. You're screwing this up. That to me was a moment where baseball, has gone way too far down the spreadsheet lane with numbers and over-analizing things. I know that's the way Tampa Bay does things. And Kevin Cash said that after the game. I understand that they've got to be a little different to have success. But Blake Snell was so good.

And the top three batters in the Dodgers order, Moogie Betts, Justin Turner, Corey Seeger, they were over six, not just over six, but they were six strikeouts against Blake Snow. None of the Dodgers' best hitters could touch him. And yet Little Austin Barnes, the number nine hitter, gets a single. And when the lineup turns over to go to those guys for the third time, immediately Kevin Cash pulled Snell. And I just think it, I don't think most baseball,

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the game. And I'm getting these angry texts. Like, what are they doing? You know, I mean, part of the pleasure of baseball is watching a guy like Blake Snell, a starter when he's on. and now we've reached a point where you make moves in anticipation that something bad might happen. It hadn't happened yet. People say, well, yeah, but Blake Snow's numbers in the fifth and sixth inning,

well, yeah, but on the flip side, it hadn't happened yet. And the bullpen's been great, but Anderson had given up runs in his last six postseason appearances, and now make it seven because the game turned as soon as he brought him in. And that's the other quick point I want to make, Rob, is the numbers are the numbers. I get it. But you've also got to have a sense of baseball in a feel for baseball because the numbers change, just like people change from week to week to week. I may not be the same person I was a week ago,

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