The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Inside the Parker - MLB Sign Stealing Fallout; Appropriate Astros Punishment; Alex Cora Had To Go; Fire Beltran Now

Episode Date: January 16, 2020

This week on Inside the (Rob) Parker, Rob discusses the fallout from the MLB sign stealing scandal, why he thinks the Astros punishment was appropriately harsh, the Red Sox firing Alex Cora as a resul...t of his involvement, and why the Mets need to fire Carlos Beltran.Guests: Julian McWilliams - Boston Globe Red Sox Beat Writer reports on Alex Cora Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:02 Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame voter number one. Welcome in to Inside the Parker. I'm your host, Rob Parker. And you know, baseball news has been breaking all over the place. We're only doing monthly podcasts until the baseball season kicks back. But we had to do a special edition podcast about all the cheating scandals and punishment. So we'll dive into that all over baseball. Plus, Boston Globe Red Sox Beat Writer, Julian McWilliams will stop by.
Starting point is 00:03:37 He'll give us some insight to the Alex Corr firing in Boston. That and much more. Let's go. Better up. To lead off, it's getting robbed. And keep him on. Rob's hot take on the three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. Number one.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Stop the noise about Major League Baseball going soft. Major League Baseball did what it had to do. Bravo to Commissioner Rob Medford because it ain't an easy thing to deal with a cheating scandal. We've seen the NFL go soft on the Patriots a couple of times, including when Bill Belichick got caught. He wasn't even suspended.
Starting point is 00:04:20 It was just a fine. So people were saying that baseball kind of took it easy on the Astros. I'm not buying into that at all. I think they did what they had to do, which was to suspend the general manager and the manager who basically let, you know, what was going on go on without doing anything to stop it. And then the Astros followed up on those one-year suspensions and then said, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:46 both of these guys, including the manager, A.J. Hinch, is out. They're fired. And they hurt them in the draft. Next year and the year after, they're going to lose a number of top draft picks. That hurts an organization. So people who are poo-poo and draft picks do not. kid yourself. And there's a $5 million fine. I get it. There's a lot of money involved. And as far as taking it easy on the owner, I just don't know what baseball. You got to remember,
Starting point is 00:05:14 it's their game, these owners, how much he really knew about what was going on. And what could you do? Do you want to take the team away from them? And the notion of taking the championship away from the Astros, I've never been in favor of that kind of stuff. I get what people want. You know, they want them to vacate it, not give it to the Dodgers, but just say nobody won that year. Here's my only problem. If knowing what pitch is coming is so good and it helped them win the World Series for sure, how come they lost games? How come they didn't win every game during the regular season if they knew what pitchers were coming?
Starting point is 00:05:51 So it ain't that easy. You know what I mean? I mean, it's definitely a benefit. It's definitely cheating. They need to be punished. But I'm not into taking away championships. I think the commissioner. got it right.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Number two. I'm not going to sit here and celebrate the Boston Red Sox for firing Alex Cora, their manager, even before the report comes down from Major League Baseball into the cheating investigation with the Red Sox. I just think that they were just doing the most obvious thing. You cut ties, you try to make the blow softer because they already know that Alex Corr was connected with the Astroles. fiasco and cheating scandal.
Starting point is 00:06:35 So they don't really need to get the Boston side. They already know. Their manager was involved. He, according to the reports are basically the ringleader and the brains behind it. So it is no surprise to me that Boston did what it did. And, you know, Alex Cora could wind up getting banned by Major League Baseball for being involved in two cheating scandals with two different teams. And it is just so crazy, obviously.
Starting point is 00:07:05 The Astros won the World Series one year. Then he goes to Boston. They put up 108 wins of franchise record, have their best season ever in baseball and win the championship. So when you look at these two things, Alex Korr looked like he was totally involved and is going to pay a heavy, heavy price. I can't imagine him not being banned. And I can't imagine him getting another job as a manager in baseball. 3. The New York Mets should fire Carlos
Starting point is 00:07:36 Beltran. I know he was a fan favorite. I know they just hired him and he hasn't managed a game for the Mets. Sorry, he's connected with this cheating scandal in Houston. And he was a player and not a management
Starting point is 00:07:52 person, but now to have a guy who was that involved apparently according to the reports in this cheating scandal in Houston and now he's supposed to be the face of your organization, it just doesn't feel right. It really doesn't. If I'm the New York Mets and given what's happened to Hinch and what's happened to Cora, I just think that it's just natural to want to have a manager not tied up in some sort of
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Starting point is 00:11:59 on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Then the Mets themselves, I think the Mets should think about this long and hard. Get in front of it. Talk about what your organization is supposed to be. be about, about doing it the right way, about playing fair and being honest. I don't know how Carlos Beltran can be the manager of the Metropolitan's and people not look sideways at the Mets for not doing what the Astros did, for not doing what the Red Sox did.
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Starting point is 00:15:00 Julian, welcome to the podcast. What's up, Rob? Thank you, man. Thank you. No doubt. I'm glad to be here. Man, I know it's crazy in Boston. Please tell me what was the reaction in Boston first when the Red Sox decided to part ways.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I know they tried to say it nice, but basically they fired Alex Cora. Yeah, basically. I mean, nobody wants to say that. And, you know, like, obviously, you read the in-between-the-lines. They had to get rid of them. Surprisingly, like, the fans knew, like, they had to get rid of them, right? Like, the fans weren't against getting rid of them. They were particularly on board for getting rid of them.
Starting point is 00:15:36 But it's just a sad that you could tell, really, that the organization itself was sad. because, like, realistically, Corr really didn't even need all that stuff. All his teammates and everything already raved about how much of a great science facility was just with his eyes and how much of a baseball Savani was and all this stuff. So the organization know they lost it. They lost the big guy.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I mean, look, he's responsible for Danne Bogart's becoming what he is. Raphael Devers becoming what he is. Mookie Betts took the next step and became MVP under him. So it's a huge void that they're going to have to fill in the Red Sox, know that for sure. Julian, the problem I had with the statement that was released with Cora was that he didn't apologize for any wrongdoing in that statement. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:22 How in the world could you put out a statement where you don't apologize for, hey, I'm sorry for my actions, I'm sorry I hurt the organization, the ball club, the franchise, the fans of Boston, none of that. Why not? You know what? Now that you point that out, that's actually interesting. They said today that he was remorseful. He apologized for him.
Starting point is 00:16:43 embarrassing the franchise, but I get it. You have to make that public statement. Julian, how can you look at 2018 and talk about all the good stuff that happened? Franchise record, 108 wins, all these players blossom and not feel like it was fraudulent or maybe helped or aided by the cheating scandal?
Starting point is 00:17:02 How can you feel good about 2018? Well, they told today, they said today, they kept saying, please fans, keep your judgment until the actual investigation comes comes out. You know, they were kind of implying. They didn't say it, but they felt like they were implying that, you know, this investigation for them won't go through, but then John Henry made a, John Henry made an interesting comment where he said, you know, we were surprised
Starting point is 00:17:29 by what they found in the Houston thing, so we have to wait and see what comes out of this. But, you know, today, when they were asked if they felt it was tainted, they said, no, absolutely not. Like, we want to. that fair and square. So they might know something that we don't know, but judging from Corps' past, I wouldn't be surprised by anything at this point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And the other thing is, what do you expect the punishment will be for Corps? I know a speculation with the Red Sox, but if he did it for two franchises and tainted two of them, I think there's a chance that he could be banned, a lifetime ban
Starting point is 00:18:04 as far as managing. You think that's too harsh if they do find out that he did it both in Houston and in Boston? I think that would be harsh, but I wouldn't be surprised at this point. Because if you remember, they have the Apple Watch incident, the Red Sox. And the commissioner said, came out and said, gave him a slap on the wrist and said, knock it all.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Don't do it again. And then you have the Houston situation where Houston chief for a year, and that was kind of spearheaded by Cora. And then now you have this other allegation. So clearly he just slapped the commissioner in the face twice. Right. saying they're like, you know, I'm going to do what I want to do. So the commissioner came down heavy on these guys.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I wouldn't be surprised if it might be a lifetime van. You never know. I mean, this impacted two World Series teams, right? If you think about it, like the Dodgers, it would be one thing if he did it with the Mets and the Mets didn't make the playoffs. No, teams went back-to-back World Series off of this. Now, if it has to do with them possibly giving him a lifetime ban, I wouldn't be surprised. thing. I said earlier on the podcast that I believe that the Mets should fire Carlos Beltran,
Starting point is 00:19:17 even though he didn't get any kind of punishment from Major League Baseball, but don't you think it's kind of weird that a team would put a guy out front and center who was involved in a pretty serious cheating scandal? Right. And I think the fact that he was a player, and they said all the players were granted immunity, I think that would be one thing that he can hold up to him and saying, look, I was a player at the time, but it comes down to trust, right? And I think going back to November when he was asked about the allegations that came out,
Starting point is 00:19:50 he lied about it. Right. He lied about it. And that's the issue that I have. If he came out and said, look, I can't comment on this or I can't talk about this while the investigation is going on. That's one thing. But he blatantly came out alive.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And if you're in Mets culture where you're trying to change the culture around the Mets organization, we all know the culture around the Mets is that. You have to probably fire this guy because, I mean, it comes down to a trust issue. And right now you just can't trust them. 100%. His name, Julian McWilliams, the five baseball beatwriter for the Boston Globe. He covers the Red Sox. Julian, always a pleasure.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Thanks for joining the podcast, bro. Hey, thanks, bro. I appreciate it, Rob. In the words of New York TV legend The late Bill Jorgensen Thanking you for your time This time until next time Rob Parker out
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