The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Inside the Parker - Remembering Hank Aaron; Cooperstown Shutout; Rob's HOF Ballot; The Curt Schilling Debate

Episode Date: January 28, 2021

This week on Inside the (Rob) Parker, Rob remembers the life and hall of fame career of all-time great Hank Aaron, discusses zero players receiving enough votes to get elected to the Hall of Fame, reveals his ballot, the surprising pushback against the universal DH by the MLB Player's Union,Guests: Fox Sports Radio's Bernie Fratto debates Rob over Curt Schilling's Hall of Fame case; Chicago Baseball Writer Mark Gonzales on zero players being elected to the Hall of Fame in 2020, and reveals his ballot.Click here to subscribe and download all of the latest Inside the Parker podcasts and follow Rob on Twitter!! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome into the podcast. I'm your host, Rob Parker. Man, what a show we have for you. We'll talk with Chicago baseball writer. Mark Gonzalez will go over his Hall of Fame ballot, and we'll discuss that. Also, Fox Sports Radio's Bernie Frato will make his case for Kurt Schilling,

who did not get into the Hall of Fame this time around. That and much more starts now. Now. To lead off, it's getting robbed. And keep him up. Rob's hot take on the three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. Number one. It was a sad day in baseball last week when Hank Aaron passed away at age 86, one of the all-time

great sluggers in baseball history. He was an amazing player, an amazing person. And when you think about Hank Aaron and his. impact on the game. It was tremendous. Think about this. Hank Aaron played in the Negro leagues. Hank Aaron came up to the big leagues and was a star from day one. And when you look at his body of work, it is an incredible, incredible degree of consistency. When you think that Hank Aaron batted 305, 755 home runs, almost averaged 100 RBIs in his 23-735s. seasons and think about this. If you took away his 755 home runs from his hit total, he still

would have 3,000 hits, which by itself would get you into the Hall of Fame. So not only does he have the 3,000 hits, he has the 500 home more than 500 home runs. Those two are markers from me that automatically get my vote. And then when you think about what he had to go through to become the home run champ and the hate and the threats and the racism that was pointed towards him. Think about that. People saying that they were going to shoot him, kill his kids, and this guy never, never came undone, never lashed out at people, never got angry, just kept playing ball, kept his head down. He is definitely someone you can admire. And then he did reach that milestone, passing Babe Ruth.

And what a monumental moment that was when Hank Aaron became the all-time home run king. And I know people, some people say he's still my home run king and it's not Barry Bonds. And I don't really want to get into the whole debate about this. This is about Hank Aaron and what he did. I respect what Hank Aaron put up, his numbers he put up. but in the record books he's number two and that's where he is and that's what I respect and there's nothing wrong with being number two

when you put up the body of work that Hank Aaron has done he will be missed what an impact he's had and I you know the grace and the dignity everything he played with and he was a World Series champion and he was as steady as it as it gets never hit 50 home run

How can a guy play 23 years, hit all those home runs, and never have those big years over 50? It's an amazing, an amazing accomplishment. And Hank Aaron will definitely be missed. Number two. The Baseball Hall of Fame will have no class in 2021. And what I mean is no one was voted in the class of 2021. Kurt Schilling was the closest at 71.1%. Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens had close to 62%.

Those were the closest. You need 75% in order to get induction into Cooperstown. I am a baseball Hall of Fame voter. I'm a BBWA member. It is my prize possession and I take it very seriously. And I don't have an issue of there not being any people going into the Hall of of fame because if there aren't any people worthy on the ballot, that's the writer's right to not vote for people and not just put people in just to do so. So I don't have any issue.

Here is my ballot in case you're wondering. I voted for Barry Bonds. I voted for Roger Clemens. I voted for Sammy Sosa and I voted for Gary Sheffield. And when it comes to me, it's real simple. you know, speculation, all the other stuff that went on with the steroid and PED era, I just think it's very hard to pin it just on those four guys or five guys, if you add Mark McGuire, who's no longer on the ballot, because it was an era. It was rampant. I'm sure more people tried it than we really even know. And those guys, they were not being tested for it during that time.

So I'm not going to play judge, jury, and execution. I'm going to, the numbers count in the baseball record book, so I am going to vote accordingly. And in my book, if you have 500 home runs, 3,000 wins, 3,000 hits, or 300 wins, you automatically get my vote. All four of those guys check the box in the home run category. All of them had 500 or more home runs. That is why they get my vote. I did not vote for Kurt Schilling.

Kurt Schilling was a very good pitcher, big time in the postseason, but his entire body of work wasn't good enough. I didn't vote for Mike Lucina who got in. I didn't vote for Jack Morris, who got in through the Veterans Committee, and they all are around the same kind of pitcher. Very, very good, just not elite. And the dialogue against Schilling, is that he didn't win to Sa Young.

If you were one of the elite pitchers, the greatest of all time, one of those guys, you should have at least for one year won a Cy Young. And that didn't happen. He finished second three times. Well, that tells you, there was somebody better than him

who pitched during his era. I think that's telling. So the Hall of Fame will go on. No players from this past voting, which is fine. And next year will be very interesting. I think A-Rod and Big Poppy will be added to the list and we'll see how those guys are treated and where they are as we go forward. But the Hall of Fame continues.

And Kurt Schilling, not so sure he will get in as he's blamed writers for his not getting in. And the only people seem to complain about writers voting for the Hall of Fame are the people who don't get in. That's lame. Number three. Here's one of the most underreported baseball stories that's out there. The union has rejected Major League Baseball's use of the Universal DH and expanded playoffs, which we saw last year during the pandemic. The Players Association is, according to sources to ESPN or not for the Universal DH,

which I thought they would. It would be another big time job for, it's membership and also last year where we had the 16 of the 30 teams make the playoffs it was a lot of

you know the wild card kind of playoffs and three game series it was a little exciting considering where it was and it was used and some people got they loved it the networks of course loved it but according to

the union and ESPN's reporting, they are not keen to doing it again. So this will be interesting. I don't want to see. I've got to be honest. I'm against both of them because I love that the National League has its own set of rules. Baseball was started without a DH. That's the natural form of how the game is played.

So I like it that way. I don't have an issue with the DH. I love the strategy of whether or not you have to pitch, pinch hit for a pitcher who's pitching well to try to score some runs. The DH to me reminds me of a softball game more than anything. I'm not a big DH guy. And the expanded playoffs, I don't want baseball to make the regular season null and void. It's too long of a season to do that.

And you see that in the NBA and the NHL, where more than half the league makes the playoffs. And then what you have is people turning off as far as the regular season and saying, I'll just wait for the playoffs. Because most of the times, you know what teams are good enough to make the playoffs. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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Bernie Frato, he hosts straight out of Vegas on Saturday nights on Fox Sports Radio, Mr. Bernie Frato, who played minor league baseball and loves baseball as much. as I do. What's happening, Bernie? Well, I'm good to be with you today and especially good because we get to debate our favorite topic, baseball. No doubt. It was a debate over Pete Rose that linked us together back in Detroit

on the radio. And you remember that I kicked your butt then and I'm going to kick your butt now. So let's start skill, baby. I'm digging in. I'm digging in. All right. Let's go. So the big hot topic, obviously, of the whole, Hall of Fame was that Kurt Schilling was not elected. He was about 16 votes short. 71.1% Bernie, he needed 75%. He has one more year of eligibility to be voted in by the writers in his 10th year on the ballot. Here you are, Bernie Frattle. Make your case for Kurt Schilling. Well, first of all, when you make a case for any player, the operative word to me in the Hall of Fame has always been the word fame. And fame has to do with why.

spread reputation based on your renown. So when you look at Schoen's renown among peers in terms of his on-field performance, it was stellar. I mean, this is a guy that was highly respected as a top-flight competitor, 216 wins in his career. He had the best struck-out-to-walk ratio of any pitcher since 1900s. So very dominant, but the postseason is where he really made his bones, Rob. 11 and 2 with a 2.23 ERA.

He was light-taught in the postseason. In fact, he started five elimination games and never lost one of them. To me, those stats are comparable to players that have already been voted in the Hall of Fame, if not better. Here's the case against him. He just wasn't good enough. If he was as good as you make him out to be, he would have won at least one Cy Young in the 20 years he pitched. 216 wins over 20 years is 11.4 per season. That's not impressive.

It doesn't match up to the greats of the game. And yes, there are some people who got in who you take a look at. I don't know. They could be Veterans Committee. Those could be guys who have been voted in, not by the writers. Remember, Jack Morris did not get in by the writers. He got in through the Veterans Committee. So you can't put up his numbers against a guy like Jack Morris.

Also, you talk about the postseason. First of all, I'll give you a guy, David Wells. David Wells won 23 more games than Kurt Schilling during a regular year, during a regular season, and had 10 playoff wins. So it's not, he never got any consideration for the Hall of Fame. He was considered a guy who was very, very good, pitched a lot of big time games when it came to the postseason as well. So there's another thing. And when you talk about Kurt Schilling, a lot of his numbers just don't.

don't compare to the greats of like a Tom Seaver and a Nolan Ryan and people like that who won 300 games. That's a testament to how good they were and the Cy Young's that they won. He just doesn't have any of that national hardware. Well, first of all, if you want to bring David Wells into the conversation, while it's true, Wells had 10 career postseason wins. He had eight losses. He was basically 500, and his ERA was a full one-on-term. for game higher than Chilling. Chilling was not only effective in the postseason,

he was absolutely lights out in the postseason. Now, he doesn't have 300 wins, like Tom Seaver. I get that, or you probably would have ordered him in. But let's take a look at other renowned pitchers like Waddy Ford, who was considered the gold standard for the postseason. He was also 10 and 8 with a 2.7 ERA. He's in the hall. Don Drysdale, three and three in the postseason,

and had seven less career victory. than Kurt Schilling. And I don't care that he never won a Sion. Those are voted on by human beings, and let's face it, Kurt Schilling, whose nickname while he played professional baseball, was cable for one, not a nice guy, was very rude and bombastic toward the press. Allegedly, he wants to a cartoon with a picture of a journalist,

with a rope and a tree, and said, Some Assembly required. How are you going to do that and allow your fellow human beings to look at you seriously? there's too much subjectivity in voting for the Hall of Fame. Now, I'll give you some credit because you didn't vote for David Wells, and there are other star pitchers either, so I think, Rob, your standard, I respect, because you've been consistent down the line.

But I don't feel all the writers hold the same type of objectivity that you do. There's more subjectivity. To me, what Kirk Schilling did in his career, and again, back to the word, the operative word fame, the Hall of Fame, Schilling's numbers not only stand up, but he did it what it mattered most, and he didn't have murderers' role behind him like David Wells did when he was pitching for the Yankees. You brought up Don Drys Day. I'm going to push back for the final time.

Nine-time All-Star won a World Series three times. One of Cy Young in 1962. Also was the MLB wins leader in that year, 1962. Three-time MLB strikeout leader. He was a dominant pitcher on an organization that, He is better, and you said he only has seven more wins. And yes, the postseason, if you want to go with three and three, but you have to look at the entire body of work.

Mr. Bernie Frato, I appreciate you. I appreciate your stance. I don't agree with it, but we can agree to disagree. When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto. If I'm writing, I'm ripping. Let's bring in a writer or broadcaster, older new. All right. Let's welcome to the podcast, one of my favorite people, one of my favorite baseball people,

one of my favorite baseball writers, Mark Gonzalez from Chicago, who spent 15 years, almost 16 with the Chicago Tribune covering first the White Sox and then the Cubs, Hall of Fame voter. Mark, welcome to the podcast, my man. Thanks for having me on. It's an honor. Always, buddy, you know it. Let's just get right to it. This was one of those years.

it's happened, I think, nine times in the past where no one was voted in to the Baseball Hall of Fame, which I don't have a problem with. If nobody's really worthy, I'm cool with that, rather than just putting people in. Where are you on nobody getting in? Hey, if that's what the 75% determined, I'm all with it, because it's the Hall of Fame. It's not the Hall of Good or Very Good. and you want the most elite players in the hall representing baseball's greatest shrine. I'm with you.

We've been lax, I think, of late putting guys in, Mark on their last try. A lot of guys have been getting in like that. Tim Raines, Larry Walker, you know, when time is running out. And help me with this. if you don't vote for somebody for 14 years or for nine years, how do you vote for him in year 10 or their last year on the ballot? Does that make sense, or am I missing something? Well, everybody's entitled to their format, how they go about it.

There's been a couple of times that I've left the guy off the first time, but then he's on the second time and usually gets in. Two examples are Tim Rains and Andre Dawson, but that's the exception more than the role. So I just still, it goes back to what I feel. If you're having the Hall of Fame, we had to dominate for an extended period to be worthy of nomination. How about, okay, we knew going in with the taint of the PEDs, Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, Sheffield. Where are you on those guys?

And first, I guess we should say, we would love to hear your ballot. and then I love your take on guys who are rumored or linked to PEDs. I voted for three. My ballot's usually tight. I voted for Billy Wagner, Jeff Kent. Those two guys have always been on my ballot. And the addition this year was Andrew Jones. I put an extra emphasis on defense,

and I felt with the Tim Gloke-level words in center field. And the fact that he did have a stretch of dominance. I think people forget that this guy broke into the majors when he was 19. So I think that has to be considered. And those are the three guys I voted for. As far as the guys with a cloud of PED over them, I never voted for them. It goes back to the Dale Murphy. That's good cause.

Yeah. I just think if guys like Dale Murphy and Harold Baines, those guys have been in sooner, to their credit, they played the game right, they played it clean. and if you let these guys get in, these other guys get in, it just hurts guys like Dale Murphy and Harold Baines, even though he'll get in on the Veterans Committee. How about next year, Big Poppies on the list?

Big Pappy was in the Mitchell Report for the use. Would you vote for him, or have you not thought about that yet? Try not to think about it yet. I know the commissioner has come out in his defense. I'll have to break down a lot of things. one thing I will do, I won't penalize him for being a DH during the last stretch of his career. I don't think you can penalize a guy for that, especially if he has dominated at the plate, special player. No doubt about it. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

And do you doubt, because I don't doubt that there are guys who have been inducted in the Hall of Fame of late who have either used PEDs or been involved in it. do you think guys who have used PEDs are in the Hall of Fame? I cringe to think about it, but you've got to wonder just how prevalent it was during the 90s and turned the century. But I'd like to think for the most part that it's a pretty pure group with very few exceptions. Our guest is Mark Gonzalez, Chicago sports writer, Hall of Fame voter, B-B-W-A-A-A member, friend of mine for a long time covering baseball. Let's get to the elephant in the room.

Kurt Schilling, making noise. I mean, you know, the case he makes, and he did it on the radio after he didn't get in, he got 71.1% of the vote. Right away went after the writers that if he was a Democrat, he would be in, making all these excuses, where are you on Kurt Schilling? And how come he can't accept that

maybe some people don't think he's a Hall of Famer? Well, I'm one of those of the latter. I've seen good and bad with him. But as far as... Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

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Very good. I just think his body of dominance wasn't long enough. You saw in Philly were, you know, a good stint, but it was. really wasn't long. He was injured, too. Down and backs, he had that he was traded to Boston, did a solid job there, but his last few years were injury plate. I just think if he had up all the numbers, there are some guys that didn't get in that appear favorable for his numbers.

You know, David Wells, for example, with 20, excuse me, 239 wins, and postseason record was 10 and 5 with a 317 ERA. I usually don't vote for many starting pitches unless they dominate. Roy Haldives a guy that came to mind. I didn't vote for Mike Messina, but good for him he got in. I'm with you. I try to stay consistent. Didn't vote for Schilling, didn't vote for Musena, didn't vote for Jack Morris.

I didn't vote for any of those guys, and I think they're all in the same boat. Very good. And the other last argument is some people always trying to trump and say that the, you know, postseason numbers should push you over the top. And a guy at Schilling played 20 years in the big leagues and had 216 wins, which is what, 11.4 or zero wins a year? I mean, I don't think that's that impressive. Yeah, if you offset it by 20 wins season, which were, which had a lot of merit during his era,

then you can say, okay, maybe that's. you carry some weight, but I only think he had a couple. Yeah, that was it. All right, his name, Mark Gonzalez, man. We always appreciate the knowledge. One of the best baseball writers out there. We appreciate you on the podcast, and hopefully we'll talk to you during the season.

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With the passing of Hank Aaron, it was only appropriate that I thought back to my childhood and I thought back to that magical moment when he hit his 715th home run to pass Babe Ruth to become the all-time home run leader. and if you haven't heard the play-by-play of that game from Vince Scully, you are in for a treat because even to this day, that happened in 1974, and here we are in 2021, and I still get goosebumps when I hear the moment and Vince Scully's call and the video of him running around the bases and Vince Scully ties it up into a nice bow. He talks about what it looked like, a black man in the South, winning the home run

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