The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Jenkins and Jonez - Aaron Rodgers Is Gone and Grayson Allen Needs To Be

Episode Date: January 24, 2022

The guys award the Booger Boy of the Week to Grayson Allen for his flagrant foul against Alex Caruso, discuss every corner of the internet uniting against Aaron Rodgers, debate whether it’s SportsCe...nter’s place to tweet jokes about Russell Westbrook, and do some macaque talk. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:49 It's Monday, January 24th. We've got another packed episode. We're talking basketball. We're talking a little bit of football. We're talking about Japanese macaques. Some macaq-tac. McCack-Tack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:02 We've got another packed episode. What the fuck? We've got breaking news about the Japanese macaques. Golly. We're jam-packed. As always, Jenkins and Jones is hosted by Ligethro Jenkins, aka John. What's that, Bubbles? Dragonfly Jones, aka Tyler.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Hey, everybody, all again. I'm Garty B, aka Mike. And let's start out with the Booger Boy of the week. Grayson Allen Still an NBA player Still doing flagrant Reckless shit Fully just yanked Alex Caruso
Starting point is 00:05:41 Down mid-leap Caruso broke his wrist He's going to be out for six to eight weeks Billy Donovan Came about as close as you'll ever hear a coach in the NBA Come to saying that this dude should be kicked The fuck out of the league And I'm sick of it personally
Starting point is 00:05:57 Tyler how do you feel about Grayson Allen And about this play? you know, the disciplinary action and the suspensions is cool, but he need his ass beat, bro. Like, flat out, he just flat out needs someone to put hands on him. You know, maybe that'll change, you know, shit because, you know, he's been doing this shit since Duke. Duke was when he first popped on our radar,
Starting point is 00:06:16 so he's probably been doing this shit his whole fucking life. You know what I mean? This is just the type of dude that he is. But, I mean, he's just a dirty dude. And like I said, I just think somebody needs to beat the fuck out of him one good time. Please, do it. Do it for America. For all of us.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Please. Beat the fuck out of Grace and Allen Ted Cruz look at ass, bro. Did you see the smirk? He is begging to get his ass whoop. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. Like you said it's been happening since Duke. Even Duke fans were like,
Starting point is 00:06:44 fuck this nigger, bro. You know what I'm saying? His own homies was like, all right, man, you a whole bitch. Doc, he snatched. The initial file was hard enough. And then he reaches around and snatches him and spins a nigger.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Bro, you know what I'm saying? I think like Billy Donovan said, you could have ended his career. And that's a fact, bro. Get him to fuck out the league. He just got a bag from the bucks recently, though. You know what I'm saying? Get him out of here, though, man.
Starting point is 00:07:07 That's some bullshit. I'm looking up where Grace and Allen is from because Tyler makes a great point. I mean, if you, in Long Beach or L.A. or Southern California, if you're doing crazy shit like that in middle school or high school, you will get your ass beat. So he must be from somewhere where they. He's from Jacksonville, Florida. he went to high school at a new life Christian private school.
Starting point is 00:07:34 He had to be a private school kid. Yeah, because Jacksonville got some thorough motherfucker, so he had to be a private school kid. I will say this, though, Grayson Allen is 6'4. You know what I mean? He's a punchable 6'4. I mean, that's what we like to think.
Starting point is 00:07:51 You know what I'm saying? There might be a reason he ain't got his ass beat, but you know what I'm saying? Like, there's some thorough motherfuckers there, but the niggas still 6'4. and he's a little crazy, but somebody need to do it, though. You know what I mean? He went to a private school that does not list their tuition on their website.
Starting point is 00:08:08 So I'm going to assume that it's a significant chunk of money to go to that private school. He don't hoop like he played with white boys, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, to me, he doesn't. He doesn't hoop like he played with white boys. So you would think he would have been around somebody that might have scrubbed his ass real quick, but that smirk lets me know that he hasn't.
Starting point is 00:08:31 You don't smirk after a dirty play like that. And you know what I'm saying? Like he fucked up. Do you remember when he, like, bowed John Morant when he was going to the fucking lane? You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Like, damn, you know what I'm saying? At least he reached out for Jai. You know what I mean? Like, oh, my bad, even though he really didn't give a fuck. You know what I mean? The Caruso thing to me, I mean, the tripping and all the, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:51 tripping and elbows, it's all, that's all bullshit. But to me, like, I gasped like I was watching. watching a horror movie when I when someone sent me this clip like you cannot fuck with anyone who's in midair like that and especially not to shove them or pull them pulling them probably even worse I mean Caruso he's lucky that that's just a broken wrist bro I mean you land on your head you don't really have any control of what's happening to you when you're up there you're
Starting point is 00:09:23 just, that's as butt naked as you can be wearing clothes. I've jumped as high as I can jump, you know what I mean? Why don't white crime, bro? I think that's jealousy. I think he's jealous because Caruso has eclipsed him on the white boy scale of NBA players and that was just an incident of
Starting point is 00:09:39 white on white crime. He must be stopped. He's the honorary light skin of the league and he mad as fuck about it. You know what I'm saying? But now with those type of files, you don't know where you are in the air until you hit the ground. You know what I mean? Like he's lucky he got a his wrist down because it was nothing but shoulder and head to break his fault if he didn't get his
Starting point is 00:09:57 hand down, you know what I mean? So yeah, fuck that nigga. But it's been fuck that nigga for a long time. It has for sure. But he, Tyler might be right. Maybe this is the, no, I'm the grittiest white player. Jealousy, dog. I wouldn't even call Caruso just a dog.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I wouldn't even say he on that grit no more. You know what I mean? Gritty players don't be getting them type of highlight dunks and shit. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. He's a bulldog on defense, though, though. He is. On defense for show.
Starting point is 00:10:26 But, I mean, like, you know, like, Gray, Grayson, like, to me, he's a catch-and-shoot-type nigga. He don't really play all that much, D, unless he's filing a fuck-out shoot. You know what I mean? Like. You're right. He's not really, like, Grayson Allen's not really, I don't even know how you describe it. He's not really a great player.
Starting point is 00:10:41 He just every now and then does something super dirty. So he has a reputation of playing hard on defense. Right. We just think he is as dirty as he is, but we, I've never heard. Great Stop by Grace and Allen. You know what I mean? We hear fuck that, nigga. He don't file the shit out of somebody.
Starting point is 00:10:57 You know what I mean? Jeez. All right. Well, you know, the sun is out. The winter is starting to warm up. So we're going to, at least in Southern California. So we're going to do a second Burger Boy of the week, which is, oh, this gives me so much pleasure. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I think the only person that can beat Grayson Allen might be Jake Paul. Maybe, maybe, maybe he, right? We just set that off. him in the ring with Jake Paul, you know what I mean? I think that that might be the key to stop of this, you know what I mean? Did you ever have the experience in school where two people you didn't like were fighting? And you were like, this is good news either way for me. Yeah, either.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Right. All right. I mean, most of the time I didn't care. I don't really know if I, there's a few people I didn't like, but they was all bitches. They weren't willing to fight nobody. You know what I mean? Like, the people that I didn't care that I would really trip off with fight.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And that was, that was always, you know. Entertainment. Right. Right, right. Tyler's eyes lit the fuck up, though. So I know he knows exactly what I'm talking. It's a very rewarding experience for sure. Name names.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Get his ass. What's the backstory behind these dudes? For real. It was actually two of my AAU teammates who I couldn't fucking stand and they got into it one day at practice. And I was like, hell yeah. I was like, coach, both of these guys need to get out of here. We can't have this on our team. This thing here.
Starting point is 00:12:23 We can't have this on our team. I wanted both of them to get the boot, bro. Both of them are both of them, man. Coach, the team dynamic is in shambles. When was this? When was this? Shit, I was like 14. I was a freshman in high school.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I was on the 15 and under squad. Yeah, yeah. You play basketball? I played A.U. I played A.U. I played JV. Then once I got, like, my driver license at 16, I was like, fuck basketball.
Starting point is 00:12:51 It's time to get on these girls, bro. Girls chicken nuggets and fucking weed, nigga. Exactly. That's incredible. So many careers, so many sports careers ended by driver's licenses. I didn't get mine till after my senior year, gee. To my senior year. Is that true?
Starting point is 00:13:10 Oh, yeah, man. You were an outcast in high school. My sophomore year, I was dating somebody who was a senior, so she had her license. You know what I mean? All my homies had their licenses, they junior year. And then I finally got a car in my senior year. And I finally got a car my senior year. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:24 And so I just said, all right, I'll get my license now, I guess. In California, you can get your learner's permit, which lets you drive with an adult in the car when you're 15 years and six months old. And you can get your driver's license when you turn 16. I had a single mom and a little brother. So I got my learner's permit on the day I turn 15 and six months. And I'm a leapier baby. So she did the math and sent me one day earlier than it could have been. and I took my brother to school the next morning.
Starting point is 00:13:55 She was like, when Noah, like, when she did that night, she was like, great, congrats. You are picking up what we need for dinner. For now. You know what's weird? Kids don't really, like, they don't really give a fuck about driver's licenses and shit like that in the way. What the fuck you need a license for, man?
Starting point is 00:14:13 You got Uber, you got Lyft, you got all that shit now. I mean, my niggas was Uber, though. And your world is, you know, your world is, you can contact anyone you want. you can be videoing with anyone you want. I just find that weird because for me, I mean, my mom wanted me to get my license so she could put me to work basically. But I wanted it too just because that was, that's freedom.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You know what I mean? You're licensing. You're suddenly, that's really becoming an adult more than turn of 18 or, you know, whatever else. I mean, I don't know, you're your own person at that point. My parents weren't going to let me drive their car flat to fuck out. I was a silly ass nigga. So it was like fuck that.
Starting point is 00:14:50 You know what I mean? So I just, I mean, every were my homies when I was with them. So y'all, y'all didn't like, when y'all got your license, y'all homies didn't jump in the whip wherever y'all went. I didn't go anywhere at Dolo, you know what I'm saying? As a kid, for real. Yeah. You guys know I was the most boring, non-stressful teenager to raise in history
Starting point is 00:15:09 until I got behind the wheel of a car. We would, there's a big ass hill in Long Beach, Signal Hill, which Jackson's actually been sending me pictures from the top of. because he's been going to Signal Hill when he visits his his boo wait I just realized maybe I'm not supposed to talk about Jackson's personal life like that on the podcast but anyway Signal Hill has a very steep hill down the back I mean I've been like if you just roll your car to the edge and go down it without touching the brakes you'll be going 40 by the time you get to the bottom it's a very steep hill they used to bomb it with you know skateboarders used to go
Starting point is 00:15:43 down it in the 70s all the crazy shit I blew a tire out at the bottom of that hill because we were going down it so fast and then I tried to hit the brakes and the front and the tires blew out of my go we did all kinds of it's there's a traffic circle in long beach we used to race around the traffic circle like yeah you put us behind the wheel of a car it was the fucking it was the stupid shit ever bro it's a miracle that any of us survived being teenagers I had it I didn't know this nigga like this he he went to school me but he his brakes went out going to school so instead of like pulling over and calling like you know I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:16:20 He started using the parking break and fuck the transmission off. He's like, I'll use a parking brake to stop, nigga. Bro, there was no way my mom was going to let me draw the whip, gee.
Starting point is 00:16:32 You know what I mean? Tyler, what was the stupidest thing you did by my wheel was a teenager? This is great. This is not on the topic list. I love these stories. One night, I snuck out
Starting point is 00:16:47 at like two in the morning to go see a chick I was dealing with. I was like 16 years old. And the motherfucking battery died while I was at a stoplight. And this was fucking, this was the pre-cell phone error, right? So, you know, I was, I didn't, I didn't have any numbers memorized because I was like, my homie and my mom, you know what I'm saying? My homie 16 years old, he can't do shit for me. You know what I'm saying? Right? So, so I had to call my mom like, yo, it's fucking three in the morning. I'm broken down. And yeah, That was that was quite the incident
Starting point is 00:17:22 She took my driving privileges For like fucking three, four months after that shit, though I would have hitchhiking before I call my mom Your mom did not give you the I appreciate that you trusted me enough No, absolutely not Bro I would have my fucking head off though
Starting point is 00:17:35 I would have a hitchhike nigga I would have been flagging motherfuckers down the street Nick like yo I snuck out please help you boy out I would have risk death Before I risk telling my mom gee It was nothing Tell her your mom
Starting point is 00:17:48 the next morning. Someone must have stolen the car. Right. What the fuck? Interesting. Under the covers, I'm fully clothed. Also, Ferris Bueller's shit. You know what I mean? I don't know what happened. It's a, it's a car thieving ring. This is what they do. They steal a car and they drive it 10 miles and then they leave it with the battery day. Madison, Alabama is a dangerous place.
Starting point is 00:18:18 God damn. Fun times ahead for John and I raising children. We did that math with Vincent turned 8 last year. And so I was like, oh man, you're halfway to get a driver's license. Oh, my fucking God, you're halfway to get a driver's license. And you're going to fly, bro. I wasn't dangerous, dumb. I was more like just dumb, dumb, like curious, you know what I mean, where I would do some,
Starting point is 00:18:43 just try some stupid shit. So I wasn't curious about anything else except for. doing stupid shit in the car but i got i i told i think i told you guys this i got pulled over coming charr went to ucela and went to long beach state and i used to come home at like two in the morning so there wouldn't be traffic and i was having a race with myself i would time how fast i could go from her dorm in westwood to my mom's house one time i did it in slightly under 30 minutes which if you look go look at a map of where westwood is and where long beach is faster than you should be driving but i got pulled over and at 3 a.m. going 119 miles an hour on the 405.
Starting point is 00:19:23 And the cop, the cop approached the car with concern. He was like, you're not drunk or high or anything. And I'm like, no, man, this is just what I'm stuck with. Right. As a brain, foolishly. Right, right. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Right. And this dude, he like, he got down and was making icon. He wasn't wearing any sunglasses. or anything, he was like, I want you to understand I work the night shift on CHP and the phone calls that I get to come out here when someone has wrecked their car going the speed you're going.
Starting point is 00:19:59 You don't want to be inside that car. I'm glad he said that to you, G. He was like, he's like, by the books, I'm supposed to arrest you for reckless driving. I'm just going to give you a ticket, which fucked my life up, obviously, because it was $500. That's $5,000 in $1,000.
Starting point is 00:20:16 That's a whole semester. worth of food in college. But he was like, yeah. And it was a, it was a scare straight moment. That $500 probably hurt you more than that speech, though. If I don't lie, I'm going to chill out. I'm a ride of four tours, and I was going 130 in that four tours. And that motherfucker was shaking by the time I got that shit.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I was about to say your windows were probably right on. I'm like, what the fucking my, you know, my homie had a Diomante. I'm trying to keep up with him. I'm like, niggum, man, it's calm your ass down. What the fuck happened to the deal with? Bro, them shit was luxury. If you had a, one homie had a Diamante, the other one had a
Starting point is 00:20:53 Money Green Q45. He would poke, I mean, he was like in high school. He would post up in the parking lot, parked that motherfucking reverse, and just post up on that motherfucker. And I'm talking about, you know what I mean? They could smell the Q45
Starting point is 00:21:08 and had that cream interior, dick. I'm talking about them ones. Pulling up on him, like, what's your name? Shit. My nigger Jeremy, G. Let's talk about our other booger boy of the week. A few things I've enjoyed in my internet,
Starting point is 00:21:26 Twitter.com experience, more than watching every corner of Twitter unite to dunk on Aaron Rogers yesterday after he scored one touchdown against the 49ers, one touchdown to be eliminated and most likely end his career with the Packers. I am a 49ers fan. We are America's team.
Starting point is 00:21:46 We've now beaten the Cowboys and Aaron Rogers, which I feel like is tremendous. Tyler, I don't even remember the last time Twitter was so united in fucking talking shit about a professional athlete, bro. Boy, Twitter lit Aaron Rogers ass up. It was unprecedented. Everyone united to get that motherfucker out of here. Like the names that I saw floating for him, like Bright Bart Star and Rush Lambo. And of course, throw Rogan. You know, that's the classic.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And Tucker Roo Carson. like, Chuck Rooke Rook Carson was that ripped my stomach open. They got them to fuck out of it. And see, the thing is, the thing is what I,
Starting point is 00:22:26 I think everyone hates about Aaron Rogers. I think, you know, there's a whole lot of anti-Vax motherfuckers out here who don't get, who don't get the heat that Aaron Rogers had
Starting point is 00:22:34 because Aaron Rogers plays the whole, oh, they're out to get me and I'm so much more intelligent than everyone else is. And that's what Rubs motherfuckers the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:22:42 You know what I'm saying? Because shut the fuck up. You out here making horse medicine smoothies. You ain't smart. than nobody, bro. You dumb as fuck about this one. You need to take your loss on this motherfucker
Starting point is 00:22:53 had a 30 minute call with ESPN talking about I'm being silent. This motherfucker, you had a 30 minute call with ESPN seeing this dumb shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, bro, it was a night for the ages. And they lit his ass up, bro. My barber don't even fuck with Ivermecting.
Starting point is 00:23:12 You go to barbers. And that speaks, that's all I need to say. I didn't watch no motherfucking football, but, you know what I mean? If the barber ain't fuck with Ivermectin, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:24 if that cohort is anti-Ivermectin, bro, you wilding, gee. You can't be further out in your takes on science and medicine than John's barber. Right, right. Tyler, you tweeted something.
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Starting point is 00:27:17 iHeartRadio app search learn the hard way and listen now but you were always someone and i agreed with you to be clear who was like erin rogers he's won one one super bowl but in terms of talent he's the most talented quarterback i've seen and you said last night kind of changed that for you a little bit and i think you were kind of putting patma homes ahead of him now what what were your thoughts on that and i'm always curious about that like when does performance or championships like where does that intersect with talent because they're obviously different conversations, but this one kind of changed it for you. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't say last night changed it for me. It's, um, my homes has, I thought my homes has been perhaps the most talented quarterback I've seen in my life for a couple
Starting point is 00:28:02 years now, you know what I'm saying? So, so my whole shit was this. You can't put Aaron Rogers in the goat conversation, right? The, the postseason resume isn't stellar enough to do that. You know what I mean? Um, you know, and like, like you said, I've been saying for years, he's the most talented quarterback I've ever seen. But he might not even have that distinction anymore with how ridiculous Pat Mahomes is. So it's like, bro, you're not in the go conversation. There's a good chance you're not the most talented quarterback we've ever seen anymore. Motherfucking, you can go.
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Starting point is 00:32:17 Miles Brown brought up a great point is that Steph doesn't play fourth quarters when step is on you know that that game is fucking out the window by about the middle of the third you know what I'm saying so that's you know plays a big part in so why that was his first buzzer be I mean is that that important of a distinction like he said I mean himself I know it was it was cool seeing how excited he was that he was his first but I still remember that okay c shot you know i mean i still remember that motherfucker from 30 i mean that was more impressive to me than his first buzzer beater you know i mean that motherfucker see walked after that
Starting point is 00:32:51 that shit you know i mean he would seem really comfortable after this shot he was like all right let's let's let's shake so i don't know that's that's it's interesting that it's his first one but he's had so many like big shots in the final seconds that i don't know that didn't feel like it at all I want to talk about, I'm a huge fan of backlashes to the backlash. I think it's a very great sign that the internet is just a manifestation of our brains eating themselves, basically. And I feel like this week we saw the backlash to the backlash against Russ. And I think I could pinpoint it to the tweet that SportsCenter put up when Russ had a shot that literally hit like the top of the backboard in that magic game. and the official sports center account tweeted the video and said
Starting point is 00:33:40 Russ is always going to let it fly with the airplane emoji and people were so mad at them for like dude you're the official sports center account tweeting like hoop hype or whatever the fuck like and I from that like they ended up having to delete the tweet which I thought was hilarious and then I since then I feel like I've been seeing not just Lakers fans but basketball fans in general angry about media piling on people piling on on russ or whatever it is an interesting question bro like there has to be some straight sports media right that's not like lm ao or crying emoji all the time it's just like here's what's happening but it feels like everyone is l m a oing or sobbing emoji now so maybe that's what
Starting point is 00:34:25 it is but what did you think of of that first of all would you think of sports center tweeting that and then what do you think of you know maybe seeing stuff kind of turn back in russ's favor a little bit Tyler. Sports Center and other media outlets like that. They can't do shit like that, bro. Like, you know, you got to leave that to the NBA Twitter regular dudes to crack jokes like that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:34:45 Like, if you consider yourself a serious media outlet, you can't come with the joky jokes clowning a player like that. You know what I'm saying? Like you, I'm not saying you can't discuss when a player is struggling. Like sports center can throw out some stats. In the last three games, Russ is 16 for 73 or something like that. You can do shit like that. John Losen.
Starting point is 00:35:03 John Sennis is. a stat like that that they could tweet what was the stat about him dunking jump he's like under sixty eight percent in dunks you know i mean there's i mean there's there's there's interest there's there's smart ways the clown on them you know if you want to just like highlight certain stats or whatever but i don't see nothing wrong with the tweet i don't you know i mean like that was the most regular shit anybody has said clown in westbrook you know i mean like i mean like i mean you know russ is always going to let it fly it's a fact he gonna let that motherfucker fly you know what I mean? I don't think that's really piling on.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I think it because it came from SportsCenter. It's like, yo, shut the fuck up. And I get like that feeling because it, you know, but I don't think it was really piling on that tweet was like, I mean, pretty regular. That tweet was clowning Russ, bro. It wasn't like they were praising for hitting a fucking 40 footer. That motherfucker hit top of the backboard and nothing else. Rush hit top of the backboard, not sports center.
Starting point is 00:35:54 The motherfucker. And it's like the 12 time. They at least waited to the 12 time. It wasn't like it's the first time he did that motherfucker. It's the 75th time he's probably on his career. It's a 12 time in three games, and they finally said, fuck it, he's going to let it fly.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I ain't mad at it, you know what I mean? I get what y'all are saying. I just feel like it wasn't that big of a deal as big as people were making it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I do, I think people in general, like the way we talk about athletes should probably change.
Starting point is 00:36:21 You know what I mean? But I don't think that right there was that damning. You know, did y'all, do y'all get in these Lakers'naces, how they're talking about niggas? And these are the niggas that's mad at SportsCenter? They're not sports center. I was on Yahoo talking dummy shit.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I don't get, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was on Yahoo's shit on their Twitter page, official NBA Twitter page talking about shit. I don't, bro, I don't, I'm not mad at it. I just think that, that was to me the most chill. We see what fucking bleacher and all them do? Like, they're doing the same shit bleachers does. There's no difference.
Starting point is 00:36:56 You know what I mean? And bleachers are serious, you know what I'm saying? A sports, you know, page or whatever. I don't see nothing wrong with it, G. I don't see nothing wrong with it. I think it's very interesting that these motherfuckers that be clowning all the time want to be the ones mad.
Starting point is 00:37:10 You know, when somebody says some very chill-ass, you know what I'm saying? Like, Rush lets it fly. What's wrong? Like, the nigger do me letting it fly? That motherfucker's like, is it a lie? No one's, I don't think anyone's mad at the text that they tweeted.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I think people are mad that Sports Center, which, you know, is a serious, which is the, I mean, and I know they've always had, like, fun and stuff, but that's the thing. If you were to ask America to name one sports show or media thing Sports Center might be number one of the last time you watch Sports Center dog I work late bro I see I see I have Sports Center on the back
Starting point is 00:37:45 I watch Sports Center probably once every six and a half months I listen my my point is though I don't think Pete I don't think I didn't see anyone mad at like oh what your text was too far it's the fact that they're clipping Russ hitting the top of the fucking backboard to talk shit did the nigga hit the top of the backboard how many times his nigga hit the Top of the back board. Just because it's true, it doesn't mean you need to say it, though, bro. You know what I'm saying? There's a thing called tact out here that especially a sports, the fucking top sports media
Starting point is 00:38:11 outlet in the world should be using this shit like in situations like this. For us to be talking about tacked, nigger. But that's what I'm saying. I mean, I don't know, gee. I just, I just say, I ain't mad at it. I don't think it's that big of a deal. You know what I mean? Like, I think the way we talk about Russ as a whole is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:38:29 You know what I mean? Like, that's why when I was saying, like, I think Russ is. still figured it out rather than saying Russ's, you know, whatever. Because I'm trying, I don't, I don't like it. But I think that was very fucking vanilla. You know what I mean? Again, I don't think anyone, I don't think anyone,
Starting point is 00:38:43 I don't think anyone insinuated was a fact. You know, I don't think, I don't think anyone's saying they went too far with the actual joke. Everyone was saying sports center, you can't crack these jokes. I think that's what people are saying. That's a Jenkins and Jones joke. I think, but I think sports center can say that. A type of vanilla version of that shit.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Like, Russ is going to let it fly. I don't think it's a big deal. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think that's that big of a deal. Russ is going to let that shit fly. Regardless if it's a sports center, Bleacher Report, whatever. I mean, like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:15 how many times do we send Bleacher do the same thing? I don't give a fuck about. But no, but no, but they're, I mean, Bleacher report was built on fan blogs. They're owned by Turner, my nigga. I know, you know what they're built on fan blogs. And I, right, but I see more bleacher than I even see sports and I'd say bleacher is more prominent
Starting point is 00:39:34 than sports center. Bleacher report is us though, you know what I'm saying? SportsCenter is suits in the studio. Bleacher report ain't that. You feel me? The person that's running it is the same. The same Bleacher report built their shit off of off of like, you know, NBA Twitter commentary type of shit. But it's taken as a serious
Starting point is 00:39:50 sports account, right? You know what I'm saying? I don't think it's that big of a deal. I don't think it's that big of a difference. They're owned by Turner. The same 23-year-old white boy trying to talk like a nigger is running Bleacherport that's running sports and there's fucking internet account. I don't think that,
Starting point is 00:40:03 I don't think it's a difference at all, gee. And I think, I don't take, I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't take either of them too seriously. You know what I mean? There's their, their Twitter account. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:13 Maybe the personalities on there, you know what I mean? I take, like, certain personalities more seriously, but their Twitter account, I don't take it that seriously. If you're going on sports center, you got to wear a suit. If you're doing a bleach report show,
Starting point is 00:40:23 you're in, you're in there in a hoodie and jeans. It's a difference, though. If you're on Turner, you're wearing a suit. Turner run his bleach report. You know what I mean? But that's but again like even inside the NBA, which is funny, there's shit that people will say on inside the NBA, you feel like, hey man, like you're the top. I mean, we talked about this with some of Shaq's comments about Spider. Like, hey, bro, like, you're, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:43 You got to chill the fuck out a little bit. You're the top, like, even though you're entertainers and all this shit, you're the top media people in basketball. And they don't be chilling the fuck out. And motherfuckers still watch the shit. I don't think it's that big of a deal. Personally. I don't take SportsCenter that seriously. I always thought SportsCenter was the more closer to the fans than most other shows as far as in how they talked about sports.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I think to get on my fucking media high horse, I think we do, I think we have a problem that's much bigger than Russell Westbrook in this country of they're not really being a line between news outlets and shit this funny anymore, right? Like, that's how most people get their news now is through shit. And it used to be that it was like, here's the boring version of shit, which is what reality usually is. and then you come over here with the funny stuff in a column or whatever in a newspaper or a pundit show on TV. And now it's all everything's punditry, you know what I mean? Like not just in sports, but everywhere. And I do think that that's been to our detriment, not just about Russell Westbrook, but it's like, no one's just going to, no one's going to be boring. Like everything is the attention economy and how much attention you can get.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And you know what I mean? Like they had to delete the Russ tweet, but I'm sure they were still thrilled with the engagement. You know what I mean? Like, I just, that shit's just exhausting to me, bro. That there's no, like, everyone's trying to be, everyone's trying to be John running the Yahoo account. No, but like, you know, it was great for John, but that can't be what our entire media ecosystem is. But if you look at the content, like you said, like the content you see on ESPN, you know, the talking head shit. The way that they talk, bro, like Stephen A has said way worse, way more flagrant shit than that tweet.
Starting point is 00:42:24 You know what I'm saying? And we understand. We understand that's an individual personality at ESPN. Sports Center is ESPN. No, Sports Center is ESPN, bro. Like, if you're tweeting from the SportsCenter account, that is ESPN's voice speaking to you. You can't do shit like that with that account.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I don't, I think. Which is why they deleted it. I mean, like, he's right in that, like, that is why they deleted it because it was, because ESPN can't be talking shit on Russell Westbrook as an outlet, which is what they're doing. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I think they deleted it because of the backlash. Not necessarily because of the tweet. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't because they can't do it. They'll probably try it again. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, it's an attention economy. That's how we're trying.
Starting point is 00:43:03 That's how people are playing. How do we move the line one millimeter back? And the way you move on- Tension without the outrage. And the way you move on social media is different from how you move on TV and things like that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:15 It's a totally different, like, you know, playing field to me. So how you play on there is different from how you move on TV. I don't think it's that big of a deal. Personally, personally. But I get y'all's point. get you. But I don't, I don't, like, when I'm, when I'm looking for serious content, like serious sports content, I go to a particular podcast. I listen to when I'm trying
Starting point is 00:43:34 to hear that type of shit. I don't go to sports and I'm definitely go to fucking Twitter. You know what I mean? Definitely. For our analytics based breakdown of Rudy Goberer's defensive value. Right, bro. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, you know, there's particular places I go. It's not sports center. It's definitely not on Twitter, G. That's how I feel. I feel Twitter is different from how you talk on television or whatnot. All right, let's talk shit about our families real quick. I want to know. John, John had a tweet last week.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I felt in my fucking soul. It was like a Cleo soul album, but as a tweet. It was reverberated into my bone marrow about the fact that you, and you have no idea yet because your daughter is not yet old enough to turn on light switches about. being a father that your number one responsibility is just turning off light switches because otherwise they would never go off and I feel this I just I couldn't relate to anything more my children wake up they walk around the house they turn on every fucking light and then when they go to bed I mean it's like I literally I'll drop them off at school and come home and I'll sometimes stand there like Homer Simpson just dumbfounded just every light in the house is on right now they've turned every light on It's bright as fuck outside, and they've turned every light on in the house. What the fuck is this? I'll go in rooms, and I'll be like, rather turn the light off, and there's no difference.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Why do you want this light? Why? I don't understand it. There was one time I turned a light off. That day when I tweeted that, I turned a light off in the bedroom three times. Nobody in the bedroom any time I do it. The third time, I'm like, how to fuck? Did she even get back here?
Starting point is 00:45:24 You know what I'm saying? Did she sneak back here just to turn the light on? It's crazy. I'll look up every light in the fucking house is on. Every. Why? There's two and a half motherfuckers here. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:40 We all in the same place half the time. 98% of the time me rather just kicking it. You know what I mean? Why are all these lights on? You feel me? I think I'm kind of weird in the sense that she'll come in. It'll be pitch black in the house. And I'll be just.
Starting point is 00:45:54 sitting on the couch staring at the ceiling looking at my motherfucking phone. I don't necessarily like light. I find peace in dark, you know what I mean, for whatever reason. But it's just weird how like, you know, like I have to go behind people constantly and turn the light off.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And then she sent me the motherfucker vimo. She like, here's $1.78 for your fuck ass. That was funny. That's for saving. Right. Bro, I'm taking away her Martin privileges. We can't watch Martin no more.
Starting point is 00:46:23 She's been killing. to me ever since we started watching Martin when I'm not tired of this shit I'm like I get no respect in my own motherfucking home, nigga. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to save us money. We can put this money towards fucking so-me. She like, nah, nigga,
Starting point is 00:46:38 hear that weak-ass 178, fuck you. And these lights, click, click, click, click. Crazy. I don't know where it comes from. There's a lot of people that relate it. A lot of people relate to it. But way more people, a lot of people retweens it.
Starting point is 00:46:56 when I saw the Vimaud, like, this is beautiful. You know what I mean? So, hey, man. Whatever. I feel like she also picked the funniest. A $1.78 is the funniest. Bro, not $2.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Not $1.75. Here is $1.78. Like, I looked at my phone like, she was right. She was like in the next room. Like, she could have made the comment. She could have thrown the pennies at you. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:21 She could, I look at my phone. I'm like, she didn't say nothing. Look at my phone, $1.78. Like, what's you the pettiest nigga I've ever seen in my life, dog? Sheesh. I did steal her chocolates though, man. Maybe you know, maybe that's.
Starting point is 00:47:35 You feel me? You feel me? I did still a chocolate. You stole the chocolates and then you tweeted to brag about it. Right. It was a glorious moment, though. glorious moment. Let's talk about a momentous new day for bread.
Starting point is 00:47:49 John, you brought this, I believe, to our attention. Can you set this up, please? So, Master P, that started another company. It's a bread company. And, you know, to continue his consistent, you know, relating everything to war for whatever reason, he names the bread, soldier bread. Why would I want to eat some war bread, nigga? Who's going to buy war bread? Free this man.
Starting point is 00:48:24 of the shackles of soldier. It's soldier everything. I'm tired, dog. You know what I mean? God damn. You know, she? That shit does not sound appealing at all. Like, you hear the word soldier bread.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Like, you think of like some, some MRE shit. Like, like, like, feels ready to eat shit that these motherfuckers are eating in the trenches that never expires. Like, who the fuck was to eat some shit called soldier bread? Get the fuck out here with this great depression-ass shit, dog? And for one, this motherfucker's from Louisiana, bro. the best food state in the fucking country. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:58 You could have came up with another name, you know, tying Louisiana into this shit, like Louisiana Sunrise Bread or some shit. And that shit would be appealing. This motherfucker went with the MRE Great Depression title. Free this man from the shackles of being a no-limit soldier. Please. Lord, please.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I know you are tick dog and all that shit, but goddamn, not with the brain, bro. God damn. So soldier Reeboks are one thing. Soldier bread? Nigger, soldieries, soldier bread? No, nigga, we don't want the soldier bread, dog. You know, that shit sounds dry as fuck.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Tyler's right, it sounds like an MRE, like, hold this under your armpit while you're sweating for 30 seconds and it'll expand into a loaf of bread. Shit, golly. I'm looking at this thing like, what? He was so hype in that motherfucking factory, too. You know what I mean? Another, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I do like the fact that he's into different types of businesses and he's all, you know, he's a solid dude. I'll fuck with him hell of tough. God damn, G. He's the most solid dude. Oh, we have some, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Like on some real shit, every artist said that he let them, he signed over their masters to them. Every no limit artist said when they first signed on with him, he said, okay, you're going to get your masters. I'm going to buy you a house and I'm a hook. hook you up with a, you know, a financial advisor. Right. I'm saying for every artist he did.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And you don't see that in the music industry, bro. Solid, solid dude, man. Solid, dude. But Soldier Red ain't in it, my boy. Silk to Shocker ain't making money off their marriages. It's probably like, but it's a very kind thing, you know what I mean? I have come across Percy four times, three of them at funerals. And that man moves through the world in a way that is very different from,
Starting point is 00:50:53 how any of us would move through the world. I got a chance to talk to him for a couple minutes too. And then just, when you see him walk into an affiliated funeral, and everyone is aware that he's there and is like, it's like the Pope, bro. I mean, like, you know what I mean? I mean, it's just different.
Starting point is 00:51:13 So he wants to call the bread, soldier bread. I mean, that's why I held the mic away from my face while I was laughing at you guys' jokes. Shit. You call whatever you want, soldier, Mr. Miller. You know, I mean, that's the official position of the Jenkins and Jones podcast. Big, big love, big love to Percy Miller.
Starting point is 00:51:32 You know what I mean? Big love at all times. But your boy will not have soldier bread in this household, okay? This is not a soldier bread househouse. This is not a soldier bread household, okay? All right, is it time for a cac-toc? The cat-tac-chat. The cac-cac.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Y'all been low-key clowning me ever since. is cock talk, man. I don't, you've been leaning in. Ever so slightly. I actually think Cockcock was like one of the funniest jokes that any of us has ever made
Starting point is 00:52:04 on the podcast because it's, it is super fun to say and it's very stupid, which I feel like is the, I feel like that's, if you were to do like one of those charts of the most efficient joke you can make in the Jenkins Joe's style, that would be at the top right. Cock talk, Jenkinson.
Starting point is 00:52:22 All right, but we're talking about macaques, which is the little white furred Japanese monkeys that you've probably seen pictures of chilling in hot springs. They're one of those pictures. They go viral every time someone tweets them because it's the reminder that like we, but we really are not that far away. Yeah, like you'll see pictures of two of them in a hot spring
Starting point is 00:52:46 and one's like massage and the other one's scalp and the massagey looks like they're just in bliss and shit. Yeah. Are we like one chromosome away? Something like that. It's like 98% of the genetic. It's like 98.9% from chimpanzees. And I had a biologist explain this to me because I think when you hear that when you're a kid, it's very abstract.
Starting point is 00:53:08 And the way that the biologist explained it was, I read this in a book. I don't remember what book it was. Start with a ball of clay and then make, start with two balls of clay. Make a chimpanzee sculpture and then make a person. Z sculpture and then make a person sculpture and 98% of the shit you did is the exact same. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like compared to a jellyfish or something like that.
Starting point is 00:53:32 So yeah, the macaques, because of the hot springs, I think they really drive that home. Tyler mentioned the photo. He said, I saw a photo of one that had his fingers tented with his eyes closed. You know what I mean? And it just looks like he's like, ah, the weight of the world is lifted. I don't have to go to work tomorrow We're two chromosomes away I just looked it up
Starting point is 00:53:58 Okay there you go There is a population Of Japanese macaques that are I sound like a fucking dip shit Every time I say macaque But that's the name of this Macack Mek
Starting point is 00:54:13 So that's the name of the species Yeah The takasak The Takasak Sakayama natural zoological garden has 677 of these monkeys, and they are easy to study. Their society is easy to study because of the prescribed sort of area in which they operate, which includes the hot springs. And the biologists who track these monkeys have been shocked by, for the first time in their observation, a female monkey has become the alpha, Queen Yaake.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And the story that I think the New York Times broke, that was at least where I saw it. I was hoping people on Twitter wouldn't have noticed this shit so we could be the ones to tell everyone about this, but I feel like everyone saw it on Friday, unfortunately. But I just thought this was so fascinating. Queen Ya Kei beat up her own mom as part of ascending to the throne
Starting point is 00:55:11 of ruling over this group and then it is now endangered because there's like this love triangle of these two suitors that it's like she's got to deal with that while also dealing with power which I feel like is a very human fucking problem to have to encounter. But what did you think of this? This story to me was great because it was a reminder that for all that all our human concerns seem very important. It's not that far off of monkeys just trying to climb the ladder. I mean. She beat up her mom and then she beat up like the 30 year old alpha, which is like a senior
Starting point is 00:55:46 citizen in monkey years. I think she's like nine years old. So she is ruthless. She out there beating her mom up and beating up old men. Like you know what I'm saying to get to where she's at. What I found interesting though was what was there talking about how mating season can jeopardize her status is the alpha because, you know, there's a degree of submission that she has to, you know, perform to mate. And you know, if she submits to someone that might be her, you know, vacating her alpha spot. So this is a tough decision for y'all. Yaqui right here. You're gonna, are you gonna, are you gonna vacate, you know, you're thrown for love and monkey dick or are you gonna, you know, say fuck, fucking. I'm here to, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:20 rule this shit and get first dibs on these peanuts, these motherfuckers roll out. It's quite the conundrum here for Yaqui. Love is overrated, Yaqui. Stick to them. Love is overrated. Get those div on a penis. You feel me? I think, bro, peanuts over everything, Yaqa. My, my first thought, I think it's because I was, I've been watching a bunch of bunch of like women's basketball highlights was like this motherfucker would have a crazy crossover if she fucking you know what I'm saying she played ball my second thought was I got a lot of cousins right you know what I mean I some will pop the trunk you know what I mean like you know they they they lean a
Starting point is 00:57:01 particular way right but none of them got the hands that my cousin Porsche got Porsche got the hands of God. My second thought was, Porsche would probably whoop this bitch ass. Like, I don't know why. I was thinking,
Starting point is 00:57:15 Portia and maybe my cousin Travis, both of them got the hands of God for some reason. I think if she, she looked and she ain't ran into one of them because they were, they will cook,
Starting point is 00:57:24 they would cook Yakee, I think. But, nah, Y'K's a queen. I don't mean to pick, you know, baddies against one another,
Starting point is 00:57:31 you feel me? All hell hurt. I hope she says fuck love and, and, and, shit over there. You feel me? What is it about the monkey brain that also resides in our skull that
Starting point is 00:57:44 that like dominance is so important? You know what I mean? Like what like why I mean you're beating up your mom. I mean I know that their family structure is different than ours like you're beating up your mom you're beating up old men so you could rule over these 677 monkeys in this zoological garden and get the first peanuts bro. I think there's only like 3% of people that care about. power maybe 10% I don't know because I don't give a fuck about power and it might be the same like she's just one of those people that were monkeys that is you know those super power hungry you feel me where she's like fuck everybody sociopathic with it I'm beat my mama up you know I mean then I'm gonna drag this old ass man and we run a shit you know what I but yeah do y'all do y'all
Starting point is 00:58:29 care about power at all I don't think it's I don't think it's a normal human thing for people to care about too much responsibility comes with power for me bro leave me to fuck alone I just don't care. I don't care about enough things. You know what I mean? I just care about certain things. And I don't want to know or have any control over what most people are doing. You know what I mean? So I care about power professionally. Like we're very like that's something that having started out in our little corner of the world as a, you know, covering sports in Long Beach. We started out on the bottom rung. And I cared very much about, uh, not being there anymore and about having the power. to do certain things and influence certain things. But that, I think, and maybe this is just me rationalizing that mindset, I think that's more about wanting the, you know, in your 20s,
Starting point is 00:59:20 wanting stability, a feeling of stability to come out of a job in a way that I now understand in my 30s is not, that's an internal problem, not an external problem, you know what I mean? And so, but it was very important to me. And I do think we still run, like I said, very small corner of the world, But we take it pretty seriously. You know what I mean? That it's like, okay, we're, we are who we are. You know, we earned our way to the spot.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I didn't beat my mom up to get there. Jesus. You ain't sociopathic with it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I care about power over myself and like my ability to assist and be a, you know, like, and help my family. That's all, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Like, that's what I care about. You know, I don't, I don't want to control anybody like my mom, my, my, my wife, saw me none of that shit i want to i mean maybe when i'm when she's older i would hope to be able to have some you know influence you know i mean but control yeah yeah but control like i just don't you know power like like like the the power that leads to personal freedom is something that i think we all aspire for yeah the power that is like dominion over others i don't get a fuck about that keep all of that i don't want it you know i mean just leave me along all right that's all the time we got for jenkins and jones today thank you so much for fucking with us uh we will be back on
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