The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Jenkins and Jonez - CP3’s Family, Jim Harden’s Resurgence, and the Kendrick Video

Episode Date: May 9, 2022

The guys discuss the horrible behavior by the Mavericks fan towards Chris Paul’s family, Jim Harden turning back into James Harden, why the Celtics fans need to relax about the refs, Jordan Poole’s foul, and the new Kendrick Lamar video. #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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hosted by my good friends, Legethro Jenkins. aka John. What's that, Bubba's. Dragonfly Jones, aka Tyler. Hey, everybody. How's a good?

I'm Garty B, aka Mike. Shout out. You may put enough stank on that, Tyler. There wasn't enough stank on there. We've been on for a week, gee, you forgot?

Drag this tongue across the mic. Yes, because scheduling notes, sorry we did not have the midweek episode. Life found away this week. The podcast did not find a way. way. Our regular lives

finally got us, man. Cheez. Finally. But this week, we're doing a live show with the Buckets guys Wednesday night after the game. So that'll be the Thursday pot, Thursday morning pod. But if you want to tune in live, we'll have

Josiah and Zach Wednesday night after I'm glad it's Wednesday because those are the games I really give a fuck about the Buck Celtics. And that Warrior Grizzly series is getting spicy. I wouldn't have scheduled it any other time, bro. It was only those options, bro.

Are you the one who scheduled it? I mean, it was like, hey, what games do you think we should do it here? These are good games. Obviously Wednesday. Yeah. Yeah, all right. Well, let's get into it. A lot of basketball has happened since last time we recorded.

But I think the first thing we have to talk about, the Mavs won today to tie that series up at 2-2. Shout out to Dorian, Finney Smith. Incredible game. But obviously what I think the three of us were talking in the group chat about, afterwards is Chris Paul going up into the stands to make sure a fan was removed after apparently a fan looked like a teenager put his hands on Chris Paul's wife and mom in front of his kids. I mean, Tyler, what was your first reaction when you just saw that tweet that like that's what Chris Paul was upset about?

Because Chris Paul was tweeting about it too. Like this is some fucking bullshit. We can't talk about the fans, but you know, this is going on in the stands. my first reaction was the wife and the mama. Like he was just out there assaulting the whole family. Like, and you want to give, you want us to give this kid, this teenager grace because he's not a minor?

No, no, look, man. He's old enough to know better. And he's for sure old enough to where if you put the hands on the wrong person's mom, you're going to get your ass beat. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how I see it, bro. Like, I'm going to tell you something.

My home girl, been my, like, best, you know, woman friends is like fucking we were in middle school and shit and she told me years ago like she was at the hospital with her mama and they were like waiting on the elevator and some shit and some old ass

and they wrote up some old like 90 year old who with like dementia or Alzheimer's or something and that person just started kicking her mama and she said she went over to him and mush the fuck out of them and I was like I understand I completely understand because the rules of engagement

when it comes to like people assaulting your mama, bro, that shit goes out the window. It's like you can tell me you beat up like a 12 year old for touching your mom, I'd probably understand. You tell me you beat up a 90 year old for like assaulting your mom? I would probably understand. It's different with mamas, bro.

You got to keep your hands to yourself. And everyone who everyone in the world knows this too. The rules of engagement are for sure different with your mama. Mom and wife, there is literally nothing that could have happened after that. That would have said, he shouldn't have done that. All rules go out the window when you involve people like that. I didn't see the kid that did it. I was like, you know, my first reaction on Twitter was like, you know, I tweeted y'all.

I'm like, murder. That's what I text to y'all. Murder. Like, and I'm not saying I would have done that. But anything that happens involving somebody pushing your mom or your wife, And the NBA has to do something about this, like immediately, okay? What they're doing isn't enough. Kicking fans out, something has to be done.

It's on the commissioners, not on the players, because expecting players to contain themselves when their family is in danger, they're worrying about their family while on court. That's a lot to ask. And if somebody would have jumped in that stand and knocked that motherfucker out, it would have made all the sense in the world. Anybody with some real sense or some fucking nuts or has ever loved anybody? You know what I'm saying? That heard that and questioned that?

I question they ask. That shit is sickening, bro. And NBA needs to do something about that right now. You should not be worried about your mom or your fucking wife getting pushed in the stands while doing your fucking job. That's ridiculous. If I'm playing basketball and I find out someone said something to my mom or my wife, that's difficult for me to remain on the court. in that situation.

If someone put their hands on my wife and my mom, I don't care if it's the president, if it's the fucking Pope. I don't care if it's Jesus Christ. Like, whatever the consequences are, whatever the consequences are, I don't have another option. Like, there's no out in that situation.

There's a line in, this is the all time I'm ready to fight line. In Moby Dick, Captain Ahab said, if the son offended me I'm pulling that motherfucker down here right now yeah Jeffenadee how was the world's like literature's greatest hater

like the animosity deep in that man's soul is fucking a work of literature art bro but yes I feel him on that for sure I just like motherfucker's been so real shit there dog so yeah I don't know I mean I just

and then you see he's in the press conference afterwards checking with the media assistant like can I fucking leave now I'm trying to go check on my family and make sure that everything's good. So how old was his kid? Who? He looks like a teenager.

I have no idea. He might be a stupid-looking 22-year-old. He might have been a big 15-year-old. I have no idea. But it certainly looked like Tyler that he was with his mom. Would you not say? Yeah. So, you know, he's there with his mom.

He's doing this stuff. First of all, that's on... My mom would have fucking... Look. So step one, mom, if you're the adult in this situation, you need to fucking figure that. that out with your son. You bought him these nice ass seats. He's there in a replica Luca

Donchick jersey that probably cost $300 fucking dollars. And he's talking to, because he thinks it's a video game or he's on Twitch or some shit just in the comments. He's talking to human beings. And you know, as a mother, you got to fucking stop that shit. First of all. It wasn't talking.

It was pushed. Right. I thought it was a grown man. That's why I was like, that sounds like grounds for murder. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not checking your ID first. No, no, no, no, no, no. It goes to murder for an adult to an ass woman for a teenager. Like, that's a slide of a scale.

I would have beat that little motherfucker's ass. Okay, no, like you said, all the rules of the gages go out the window when it's your fucking mom, you put your hands on my mom. That's all I care about right there. You know, your kids, bro. I mean, that, you know, it's like, God damn, though. You're talking to my DNA at this point. You're not talking to me as a person. This is instinctual.

I wouldn't have thought. I wouldn't have thought. And that's what's wild. Like, you're asking these bad. basketball players to do what these fans aren't doing. You know what I'm saying? And this is, and we're not talking about, like, the job and they get paid. We're talking about natural human instincts.

When you see somebody you love to that extent, you know what I'm saying? The woman that's raising your kids and the woman that raised you getting hands put on them. What the fuck do you want a person to do in that situation? Then he has to do something I read about that ASAP. So, and here's my response to you on that. I totally agree that the league is not taking this stuff seriously. enough. You know, and first of all, this has been an issue. Someone brought up that this was an issue with Vernon. This has been an issue forever. Like, this happened with Vernon Maxwell. You know,

it's been forever that players have had to deal with these stupid fans. We just have more access to what's happening in the stands now, right? To me, look, basketball is a fucking privilege. Is it a privilege for us as a society? Is a privilege for fucking fans to be there? This is not a human right. And if you as a host team cannot provide a safe atmosphere for players to play, where they're not going to hear racial slurs hurled at them, as everyone has told us, happens constantly in Utah, or where your family cannot come and watch you play basketball,

then you forfeit the fucking game. I mean, it's that easy to me. You watch out how fucking fast the behavior changes if it goes, oh, this isn't some, you know, I'm going to get famous for going back and forth to Chris Paul. This is the guy whose jersey I'm wearing is going to be mad at me for acting like a dipshit and costing him a fucking playoff game.

But this needs to be root level, reach in, grab the shit, and pull it out and throw it away. Because this cannot happen. This can't be a theme. It's not fucking funny. Because if Chris Paula jumped in there and pushed that kid's nose through the back of his head, none of us would have disagreed with it. And it would have been a disaster for the NBA. But you would have been right to do it.

So they need to get on top of this shit and not in a fines legislative type of way. It has to be a serious fucking thing. I think I would take it all the way to a forfeit. You can't let if someone's wife and mom can't watch him play basketball, then you can't play basketball. Period. All right, shit. Banny ass.

Bang the gal. Fuck him. Blap, blah, blap. The other game tonight, Sixers, Sixers win to tie that series up at 2-2. These are the two series. I think we and most people I know have been a little bit less interested in.

So I'm glad to see him get to a game five at 2-2 in both of them because now I'm, you clock in a lot more at 2-2 for game 5. So I'm excited about that. I want to know, Tyler, where are we with Jimithy Hardin? Has, is the name, has he, has he got his name back for tonight? He was James tonight. I feel like this is the corny ending of a movie where like a dude is just walking up in and stuff and you're like, that was James tonight.

Yeah, but for sure. It was like, he was Jim the first two. game, though. He had four points. Jimity. Yeah. Four points of the second half of game one, four points of the second half of game two. Like, he stuck it up, but, but he showed

up tonight. He showed up tonight. Can't take it from him. He was James tonight. I think for the rest of his career, we'll see more Jimothy than James. I think this iteration of James is the James will see more of. I feel like, you know, we have these moments like this that are good, but I

feel like the way he approaches the game is totally different than who he was when like, you know, Mori first had him, you know what I mean, where he's aggressive, pushing, you know, pushing to get his points

and stuff like that. He's more of a facilitator. He'll sit back and let Maxi do the thing, do the thing, you know what I'm saying? More than he presses himself. So I think that's interesting. I'm wondering, like,

how, you know, this will be in, you know, in his career further down the line. But I don't care about this series at all. I give zero fucks about what happens to either these teams.

Anybody can win. It doesn't matter, bro. So you think, You think whoever comes out of here is not going to the finals? No, no, I feel like, no, I mean, this series? No, I mean, this Bucks are Celtics still. And the Celtics are struggling a little bit. You know, like, Jason Tatum got to figure it out.

You know, if he doesn't figure it out, they can't do shit, you know what I'm saying? But I think, I think it's probably the Bucks, but it's coming. That's the series that matters. I think that series really decides who wins the chip, honestly. I can get on board with that. There was a guy at the game who you would identify. with John, which is the cameras caught a guy. I think he was court side, but he was like second row at furthest back who was just dead

knocked out asleep in the second half of this game. I've fallen asleep during some of the greatest movies of all time in the movie theater. There's no better nap in the world to me than a movie theater nap. Do we think an NBA game is court-sighted an NBA game? Is that like the, is that the final thing to check off on the list? He is the elite nap. for a little. But the whole thing about about how Naps get you is though, it's like

bro, all the text is like two or three minutes of downtime. You're like, all right, let me, you, your body starts lying to you. You're like, yeah, I can just probably, you know, close my eyes for like two minutes for doing this commercial break and, you know, wake back up. No, the fuck you can't. You know what I'm saying? You're going to wake up, it's going to be goddamn two hours later. So, yeah, I can, you know, even though it is ridiculous

to fall asleep at a court side game, at the stage of life that I'm in now, I could see that being, you know, something that could possibly happen to be to. Tyler witnessed this. I fell asleep standing up in a club. In the club, bro. I can go to sleep.

Standing up in D.C. With a fucking pee coat on, nigga. I can go to sleep any fucking wear, bro. Fall to sleep with your feet on the hardwood, peanuts. Okay? Try fall to sleep with drinks flowing and booty juice around you, okay? It ain't underground club, bro. That's where I fell asleep.

standing up, all right? So yes. But I mean, but good for him. You know what I mean? I might have you beat. Let me see. In college, I mentioned we got into some different things as a newspaper. The newspaper I was at in college, right?

We were in an academic court hearing with the school Senate to decide whether we were going to get kicked out of college or not. And I fell asleep in the third row. Oh, my God. You are a menace. Every story you've told about you in that damn newspaper, you were raising hell, it was some animal house shit going on there, bro. It might have been more, it might have been more PCU than animal house.

A lot of hijinks. Yeah, it was a lot of hijinks. But falling asleep standing up anywhere, that's super impressive. I credit you for that. Yeah, I posted myself between a wall and a banister. So, like, it was cheating a little bit. But I was like, yeah, I don't give a fuck about nothing. it's going all right now.

But before I knew it, I would sleep. Let's talk about that Buck Celtics series. We just mentioned the bucks are up to one. Tyler had, I thought, anywhere on the internet or television, the best comment on this, which is Celtics fans in the span of three games have gone from, yeah, we're going to make KD work for every inch. We're running three guys against him every time he's on the court. every play. We're going to beat his ass up. They're soft. They can't play real basketball.

This is Boston. This is Boston. This is real basketball shit. Nothing is easy against the Celtics. To walking into the arena with 9-1 and dialed on their phone to call the police on, honestly. Just wait, like, as soon as they see that first drop to the cup. Yes, it is. It's, a, it ain't no fun when the rabbi got the gun, right? Like, like, you know, they, they were all up in fucking KD's jersey last year. It's like they were knocking them off the square. They were physical. You know what I'm saying? But that mother, you know, no shots to KD, but that motherfucker weighs 118

pounds. It's a whole different ballgame with Yannis. Right, this is the strongest motherfucker in the league perhaps. Then maybe you ever came to the league, nigger. Yeah, yeah, this is the strongest motherfucker. You try to get an open. Yeah, you try to get open. Yanis jersey, your ass going to be rolling into the goddamn stancho like debug and shit. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's a whole different ballgame,

man. I just love to see the hypocrisy from fucking Celtics fans who are doing a 180 on. how, you know, basketball, you know, the most physical team wins. Now it's, oh, please, no, please help. You can't do that. That's not legal. You're too strong. I mean, I love it, though.

This is brutality. This is brutality. These motherfuckers are crying about someone being stronger than them. And they don't know how dorky they look. I'll be honest. Like, I think it's funny what you're saying, but I get it. It is brutality. He's bullying the fuck out the motherfuckers.

I'd be yelling for help too if I had to try. try to stop that motherfucker right there, dog. He dropping his shoulder and getting everybody out the way, dog. I'd be, I'd be, I'd call 911 as well. But yeah, it's definitely funny, but I understand both sides.

You know what I mean? There's good people on both sides. All right? I think, I mean, first of all, it's just so funny. And we, we obviously talked about the more important stuff with the Suns,

um, Mav series, but it's kind of the same thing. They're like, you just, we've all been fans of basketball for a long time, right? And I'm telling my son this at eight years old. Like, you can't be complaining about the officials like this nonstop. But what's the fun of it? Like, can you not acknowledge in your head that you want your team to be officiated differently than the other team and that that colors the way that you see the game?

It's just, I don't even consider that a particularly mature thing. thought. It's just, and I, you know, getting mad yelling at the reps and shit, that's fun, whatever. But to get on Twitter and like formulate hypotheses around it and like, well, these guys are allowed to play like this, we're allowed to play at this. It's just like, I don't see the point in it. It's, it's a boring way to watch basketball. It's a boring way to talk about basketball for sure. Like, it's, there's just no, there's nothing there to me on that. And I don't understand Celtics fans like you're being hypocritical. Of course you're being hypocritical. All basketball fans are hypocritical, but we're going to laugh at you if you come literally,

from a series where you were bragging about beating up an all-time great. And now you have an all-time great beating you up and you're saying you want more whistles on it. Of course you're going to get laughed at for that. It's hypocritic at the hypocritical at the basest possible level. And Tyler said it, you said it on Twitter earlier. Have you ever watched a basketball game that your team was not in and said, could he use more fouls in this one?

Could he use more whistles in this basketball game? No one wants that. No one wants that. Yes. No one has ever I have never in my life watched a basketball game and have been like They need to call more offensive fouls here

I have never in my life done it Offensive too in particular Yeah offensive fouls too right And no one else No one else was a basketball fan Has ever watched the game And wanted more offensive fouls If their teams are playing

Like if the only time people want that shit Is when their team's playing right Everyone's awesome Let them boys bang shit Until it's your team that's getting bullied then you want that motherfucking whistle going off. And it's just, I don't, I don't, like I said, I don't not get how Celtics fans don't realize

how dorky they look complaining about this shit, bro. Particularly when you're watching somebody as amazing as Janus do, yonest things. And what you talk about is whistles. We're seeing somebody we have never seen before in this entire game. And you want to, you know, you ignore how good he is and you want more referees involved.

You want the 5-8, 163-pound guy to get more involved in a playoff basketball game. It doesn't quite make sense. We can look at the seven-footer, you know what I mean, who's doing anything and everything that can be done on the court. And John says this as someone who you're rooting for Jason Tatum, I assume harder than you're rooting for anyone else in the playoffs at this point. I want Tatum to win. I'm always rooting for St. Louis.

You feel me? I'm always rooting for Tatum. But the thing, but like, yeah, I say that, like, but I also am a fan of basketball. particularly the beauty of it. And seeing Yannis play basketball is beautiful. Much more beautiful than the ballhead-ass motherfucker built like a fist with a fucking zebra suit on. Okay?

I gave a fuck about him and what he got to say about what Yonis is doing on the court, okay? The other game where there's been, oh, go ahead, Tyler. I was going to say, Celtics had 34 free throws that game. Bucks had 17. The Celtics had 17 free those in the last 16 minutes and 30 seconds. the bucks had zero.

Like what the fuck are y'all even crying about, bro? They want more offensive files. They're the motherfuckers calling charges in the wreck and getting their ass kicked off the court. You play 5.05 and call it charge. You got to go, bro. The playoffs are heating up, and you can make every game feel like game seven

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conversation, actually I'm interested for, I'm interested to talk about this, the Warriors Grizzly series, the Warriors are up to 1, Jai looks like is going to be out game 4. There was a play in the last game. There's been a lot of

legs akimbo in this. series that happens with some of the principal players involved. There's obviously the very hard foul that the Dylan Brooks had accidentally. I don't think he was trying to slap him in the head. But it was still dirty. I get the dirty. It was dirty. It was not intentional but dirty.

I get it. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, the results, the results of plays like that always dictate how we feel about him, you know, there's an elbow fracture ended his season. So you feel like it's more dirty than it. if he, you know, it's a hard foul and he gets up and plays on. But this play, you know, Jordan Fool, grabbing at the ball, grabs jaw on the knee,

on the inside of the knee and pulls. And that's the injury, an injury to his knee. And, you know, they've cut the grizzlies have said, like that's when he hurt his knee, probably going to keep him out of game four. I don't personally watch that clip and see malicious intent. It looks to me like it's a scramble. The ball is loose between him. I think he knows he's not grabbing at the basketball,

but it's just sometimes you're, sometimes where you're playing, even if you're a slow fucking kind of fat white guy like me, you're just, your hands are in there, you're pulling whatever. I don't think he was like trying to reach in and grab his knee and injure him.

But obviously, if I was a huge Grizzlies fan, I would be fucking furious beyond belief it. So what did you think of that play, Tyler? You thought that was dirty or you thought it was just one of those plays? It looked like a basketball move. Jordan Poolew has no history of being dirty. So we got to,

I feel like we got to give him the, benefit of the doubt on this one. Yeah, Jordan Poole, I'm looking at him. He's not a dirty player. He said, I'm not that type of player. You know what I mean? And when I looked at that play, I didn't truly, like you said, it didn't seem like it came from a, it wasn't, you know, you didn't have malicious intent when he did it. Like, it's just a basketball place. It's a contact sport. It happens, you know. I think they're more mad because Jaws hurt. You know, you're trying, you're making something a bigger deal. Yes, John, not being in a game is a big deal, obviously. I mean, he's the, I mean,

but also, y'all have won games. You want a lot of games without all. job. So, you know, not, I think, it ain't going to happen this time, but yeah, but, you know, I get why they're frustrated. I think the, I think the thing about it is, and I agree with you on, on, you know, you give players that don't have a bad track record, you give them the benefit of the doubt. I think the reason that they're upset, not just because it's job, but because if there was malicious intent, he wouldn't have done anything differently than what he did. Like, you know, he put his hand right on the inside of his knee joint and he pulled. That's gonna, you know, regardless of where your leg's

planted, regardless of what age you are, if I go do that to my kids, that's not gonna feel good to them. So I get that, but I just, it's just one of those moments. If you, if you don't slow it down, if you watch it in real time, I don't think you can come away from it feeling like, oh, he's trying to take him out of the game. I think you have to be a certified psycho

to serial killer type. To want to manually injure someone's knee. with your bare hands. Right? Like, I think that's something where you're overlooking here. You got to be a sick motherfucker

if you want to pull someone's kneecap off their ligaments by your bare fucking hands, right? Do we think Jordan Pool is that guy? I mean, we don't really know the kid. He's only, he's like 24 or three years deep or whatever. I don't think so, though. Like I said, I'm giving him the benefit of doubt he doesn't have a dirty history.

He said he didn't do it. So that's good enough for me at this point. Also, also to have that level of precision in that bang, bang of a play. to think that. Bro, go check his basement. Go check the fridge downstairs, bro.

My jeet. My man feeding brains to folks, all right? If he was that evil and that precise, he needs to be on a watch list. You know what I'm saying? He playing some classical music

cutting people's brains and feeding it to them. Okay? He's on that edible lecture shit. With some opera playing some, oh, right. Joy to believe some motherfucking brains. Right.

Watch it feel for game for shit, right? He's eating your Naxiel with some fava beans and a nice key on you. Absolutely. Nice kianti. I'll be telling you. All right. Well, very excited for the games on Monday night. We tapped in with those for sure.

Let's talk about some non-basketball stuff. I appreciate, first of all, everyone who listens to the show because we cover a fair amount of ground on the show. and I like that during the playoffs, I hear from people who are like, love that you guys are talking more basketball, and then we hear from people who are like, boy, I wish you'd stop talking about so much basketball. Like, where's the whale dick story follow-up?

You know what I'm like? Old girl that hit me up about that, did I push it to the group chat? Yeah. She was like, she listens every day with her boyfriend still, but she's like, I want to be able to interact about some of this shit.

I don't give a fuck about this basketball stuff. And I respect it. I have told y'all, I was listening to the show before I was on the show, I was listening to your Game of Thrones Recaps having not watched any episodes of Game of Thrones. But I was just like, oh, here goes Tyler about the fucking Nightwockers. This motherfucker is so funny.

Some people, some people say like they, you know, they don't watch basketball, but they'll tap in for the T because we're gossiping. We're some little messy bitches, you know what I mean? Some chatty patties out of this motherfucker. They're talking about what we do to teenagers if they said some shit to our moms, for sure. I push the hell out of that 15-year-old. Put the nose at the back his head.

No, but yeah. I'll fuck with it, though. Yeah, for sure. I understand both sides. New Kendrick video out today. Shades of Michael Jackson black and white video. Using deep fake technology to change his face during the song. What did you guys think of the song?

What did you think of the video? Before I forget, you talking about the black and white video. please go back and look at that part with the whole face morph shit because Tyra Banks like totally broke protocol like she wasn't supposed to show to shimmy or be all like she was and it's like if you look at her and look at everyone else

you can tell everyone else following instructions she did not follow direction and she said that herself but good for her because she sees the fucking spotlight and she became the chick of the 90s right but yeah um it's you're a goddamn right too yeah yeah

I had Tyra Banks on my wall in fucking 96 97 dog like she was that big but um I declined to tell the story that I could tell you got to tell it. Absolutely. No. Does it involve a sock? Listen, listen, the three of us grew up. The three of us grew up in a different era.

The three of us grew up in a different era in terms of the availability and the Tyra Bank's swimsuit edition of Sports Illustrated, which arrived because I was a fan of Sports Illustrated. It was a treasured artifact in the guard of Bosio. We had to. Bosio from D. Game Man Garde from 30 Bro, we had to print up pictures in the computer lab Back in the day. Like we were some 14 year old perverts

Printing up swimsuit pictures and shit Like it was a whole different ball game back My friend brought a folded up piece of paper To school with a dot matrix printout of Pamela Anderson Topless And it was like you could see the pixels We own it. But I bet y'all did numbers, though.

I bet you put up Janus numbers. 40, 17, 12. He was a celebrity. And it was a black and white picture, too, because we didn't have color prints. Well, we owed this. Fuck. God damn.

We grew up in the Stone Age, man. Hell, yeah. I'm going to tell you a six-grade, my country ass, we had some mags, and we hit them in the woods. In the woods. We were going to look at the mags while we was waiting on the bus, and then we'd run from behind these little trees.

to the bus stop. That's how I like some delivery shit. Yeah, what I'm trying to explain. It's like Coen's brothers movie scene. Yeah, you're going to look at porn in the woods. I'm telling you. Country dicking shit, bro.

I'll look at a titney anywhere. I'll look at a tit on the moon. Okay. What about we're even talking about, man? Kendrick. Kendrick. The Kendrick video. The Kendrick video.

I'll look at a tity in the month. moon. I look at it. Kitty on the moon. Don't ask your home girl if this is what she was looking for from the podcast. Okay. Yeah. I hit it up.

I'll hit it. I'll hit it. I don't know or know her like that. But yeah, she just hit me up to say, hey, can y'all talk about some four-out-some bullshit? Kendrick video. The Kendrick video is song. Tyler, your thoughts on the Kendrick video. Listen, bro.

Like I said, Kendrick is beyond some other shit so much that even in this video where he was doing fucking, you know, you know. know, deep fakes of OJ and Jesse Smollett and Will Smith. I was like, oh, thank God he's not going off the deep end for this album. Like, that's how weird Kedrick can get. You know what I'm saying? Like, this video was weird enough, and it gave me a sigh of relief because I don't think the album is going to be too weird.

It's going to be Kendrick weird. You feel me? Was I the only one who came away from this video thinking that? I live in weird being a very artsy-ass nigger. I think he is brilliant. I think he's a creative genius. I love how innovative it is using new technology. I don't know if you remember his other videos.

He had that one scene. He shot one with J. Rock. And he had that scene where one person was moving in slow mode, the other one in normal space. And then when they switched it, the person, like, it was like no cut or anything. It was beautiful. Anyway, he always finds an innovative way to, in order to shoot his music,

his video. So the art was beautiful to me. I think it's going to be to pimp a butterfly type joint. I don't know if the album will be for me. I don't think he's quite jumped off the deep end like we thought initially after hearing this. But I don't know if it's a Kendrick album I want him to make. I think it'll be a good Kendrick album, though.

But if I'm being honest, to Pippa Butterfly is my least favorite kind of album. Like I think it's probably his most important. Maybe it's most impactful album. But this album, I listen to the least because you have to listen to the whole album. You can't, I'm not going to like song seven and just playing that.

You know, you got to watch it like a, You got to listen to it like you watch a movie, you know? I think it's the line between appreciation and enjoyment. I appreciate to Pimp a Butterfly. It's incredible. I cried when I was listening to it the first time. So my head hurt. Yeah.

But it's just not something that for that reason I listen to very often. Like you said, you never, if one song from it comes up on a shuffle, I'm going to write through it, you know. What are you going to do? You're going to do Kendrick like that? Come on. That's the sound. You're going to, Kendrick.

Well, but I also think, you know, I mean, I've mentioned this on Twitter a couple of times. Like, Good Kid Mad City at this point and is far enough away from it. I would probably say it's my favorite album ever. Like, oh, wow. Yeah, I've been at the point for a while where if you said that's the best West Coast album ever, I would not put up an argument. I think it's that fucking good. Yeah. I think it's a perfect album.

I think he did every single thing he was trying to do on it. as we discussed on a previous show, and I did get one person who responded and said they appreciated the James Joyce Kendrick Lamar analogy. I think he did it. Like he made a perfect album, and he has another 15 or 20 years of recording in front of him.

So it makes sense that he's trying to do things. Like John said, there's more artsy that's just different from what a normal person would try and do. Like, and I- He's always done artsy shit, though. For sure. But there's that line, right?

There's a line that you can call it commercial versus art. You can call it appreciation versus enjoyment, or whatever you want to call it, the difference between, it's what Martin Scorsese is talking about when he says, they're not making real movies anymore. You know what I mean?

It's just there's that line in everything that we enjoy between the art house stuff and the blockbuster stuff. And Kendrick is one of the few artists that has done both sides of it to perfection. So, you know, I think he's in a unique space because of that,

especially because it's only been in the last couple of years that the country's mainstream, quote unquote is accepting rap as real high art right like all the jzy i'm in the moma type shit so i i don't know i don't have the highest hopes you know i i will always listen to everything he puts out but um to me it's it's more appreciation than enjoyment recently and i appreciated what tyler was talking about on just let me know that like put a sticker on the album of what the hotel level is like How hot is it going to be, baby?

You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, I wonder what y'all thought about this, too. Like, I watched, I watch, because I love the visuals. I'm a big fan of especially Kendrick's art. And I mean, as a PG-Lang, like, I watched there. They had, I think, was it a Levi's or Calvin Klein? Like, they were doing, they were doing, like, advertisements. They're a creative agency.

So they were doing advertisements. and I was watching all those. I like, you know, but they do a lot of, like, extremely creative art house shit, even how they shot Baby Keem's video with Kendrick. That was brilliant to me, you feel me? But what did y'all think about the, like,

when he put those faces? Do you think there was, you think that verse was about people that he felt like were bad for the culture when he had, like, you know, Will Smith, who else he have on there? Like, obviously O.J., you know what I'm saying? Kanye

Jesse and then he had Is it Jesse or Jesse? Jesse. Jesse. Chappelle, I made me call that motherfucker Jusei forever,

Ducey. Juicy like a motherfucker Juicy Smoier. Jusay Jusay-S-Moyer. And then he had, you know, obviously in a different verse he had

you know, Kobe and, you know, Nip. So did you think there was like some significance to that? Yeah, I can't necessarily draw the dots on that culture verse

it kind of felt like maybe I need to examine it more. But, you know, the whole Kobe Nip first was about, you know, dying before your time, you know. Right, right, right, right. There was the parallels there too, so, so yeah, for sure. You got to be bold to say those words, you know, with a nip, you know what I'm saying, deep fake, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

I mean, who else but he's stamped. He stamped. Yeah, yeah, I mean, he was Nipsey's homie. He's from Compton. he knows how it is. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's down. Yeah, if anyone could do it, it's Kendrick.

Yeah. Still, that's a tall order. I mean, that was, and it was, and I don't feel like he fumbled it. I don't feel like he did a good job with it. I don't think he did a great job. Kendry's brilliant. Kendry's brilliant.

I don't know if it'll be the album, like I said, the album I want, but I mean, I just, you just, regardless of what he does, like, you can't ignore the brilliance. The brilliance is always there. And I think that'll be here in this album. I don't know how much I run it back. I thought damn was great.

My favorite Kendrick album is Section 80. I've listened to that. I mean, like, I understand Good Kid, Matt City, and when it came, and I remember listening to that shit, and I remember the verse he had about what's old boy to be lying on Twitter about his son and shit, and on Instagram, blood, you know what I'm saying?

He slapped the shit out on his teammates at the Drew. The game, anyway. Oh, game, goddamn. Yeah, that's a wild boy. When I broke that down, described that man. I'm like, damn. That game is a wild boy. When you talked about seeing the game and all that,

I remember, like, the emotions and being a dude that was struggling, struggling at that point. You feel me, like, in life and financially and all that shit. So I remember how much that meant, but, like, Section 80 as far as, like, that shit hit me in a particular way, bro. You know what I mean?

I don't decide that. But I do understand what y'all saying is probably to make it could be the best West Coast album. You know, it was a monumental album, but, yeah. Yeah, it's, um, Section 80 was, I felt like that was Kendrick's, yo, I'm really fucking, nice and I'm here.

He did. He was on Michael Jordan mode before that, right? Was that the album he had before that? Michael Jordan was on, um, um, what's the shit with Janae? Ike. God damn. Overely dedicated. Oh,

only dedicated. Okay. Yeah. Michael Jordan was on overly dedicated. Okay. That was on OD. But, um, I feel like, like where good kid mad city gets the separation is, it's a coming of age tale.

You know what I mean? It's, it's a, a tale of, of a, of a kid, you know, coming up age and Compton, going from, you know, a teenager to a young man. Like, I feel like that kind of gives it an edge of a edge of a edge of a edge. It was a concept album. It was, you know, an album with a strong theme. And Section 8 was phenomenal, like, not taking anything away from it. It was music, though. Yeah,

I heard Rigged Mortis, and that was when I was like, this is the best motherfucker alive right now. He didn't breathe. He didn't breathe for an entire fucking song. Yeah. Yeah, right? I heard Rig and Mortis, I was like, this motherfucker is the best rapper alive right now. Like, like I said, I feel like, a section 180 stamped and certified him.

Like, he's one of the top guys, but I feel like Good Kid Matt City was was the arrival, the, you know, the coming of story that just kind of is going to be timeless for generations. Good Kid Mad City might be the last album. I remember buying in CD format and then sitting in my car listening

to it all the way through. I don't know the last that might have been the last time that it happened like that, the way that it did when we were kids or whatever. And I'll always remember there's the what I think is just one of the

sing about me. I'm dying at Thursday. I forget the exact name. I think that might be the best song. I mean, just like a song that does. There's nothing you could seek to do as a musician that isn't done in that song, in my opinion. I remember talking to, like when that album came out, I was at a poly basketball practice like the day after.

And I was sitting there with the kids on the team talking about it. Like it was like something had happened to all of us. And they were all talking about that song. and the moment when he stops talking and the gunshots happen. And I was talking to KJ Fagan, who was the point guard on that team. They won a CIF Championship.

He played at San Diego State. They were like number four in the country, the pandemic year or whatever. He was like in T. I mean, we're like really having heart to heart conversations around that song in particular. And I'll just never forget.

It was just one, it was like one of those moments when even though I was old, you still felt like there was this connection across generations and everything else because he just said everything that so many West Coast rappers had been saying

parts of what he said in totality of that album. Right. You know, like I said, it's a coming of age album and that that's something that every generation relates. It's the reason why damn near 30 fucking years later, so many people think Ilmatic is the best rap album ever because that was a

Queensbridge, New York City coming up age album. That theme is timeless. And it's the reason kids are still reading the Odyssey 2,000 years later. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, it's like that is a story that we relate to on a genetic level, I feel like, absolutely. I think Section 80 helped us to know what Kendrick was. Like, I knew Kendrick was going to be one of the best rappers I'd ever heard in my life

after Section 80, right? I think Good Kid Mads City showed us who Kendrick was and how he got there, you know? And I felt like after Good Kid Mads City, I was like, where does he come up with new material? Because he just wrote material based on his entire life. You know what I mean? And now in a year, he's... He's got to, right, he spent 20-something years leading up to this one.

To make that, you know what, in a year, what are you, right, 100%. And so, I mean, you know, he's a, you know, brilliant artist, brilliant creator. He figured it out, obviously, but, yeah, I feel like that's where I got to know, like, who Kendrick was and how he became him. And I, but I remember watching, like, Kendrick's always been creative. Even before Section 80, these videos are not available on YouTube anymore. But there were, like, videos of him rapping. This was, like, when there were rumors of him, who was that one guy that was supposed to be to pop him? but he had like mental issues

that Kendrick battled. Do you remember him? Yeah, Grape Street Crip, homie. Daylight. No, it wasn't daylight. It wasn't daylight. It was another dude that was popping. That was a, I think it was a,

he was blowing up around the time Kid Cuddy was blowing up before he actually dropped the first man on the moon. It was like his, it was like right before the day and night, joint. I forget his name.

Huh? Chip the rapper? He wasn't from Cleveland, but he, I think he was from, he would think he was an East Coast rapper, but he wasn't from Cleveland, but it was around that time period. Charles Hamilton?

Was it Charles Hamilton? I think it was Charles Hamilton where he battled him and nobody knew what Kendrick was. And he battled Charles Hamilton. Yeah, they did battle. That's when I first heard of Kendrick. This was before he dropped the joint he was doing when he was telling people that Dr. Dre was going to drop something. And Kendrick ran up on him because he was that guy. Like, I remember that shit.

Right, right. He was like, yeah, exactly. Yeah, Kendrick approached him like, like, yo, I want to battle. He was just trying to get some reps in, you know what I'm saying? Get some light, you know what I'm saying? But he was doing dropping videos with like, I remember there was a video and it was just like captioning on the on the on it. And he was like driving through LA. And it was just showing the like what was showing what they were seeing, the scenic stuff that was around them through the windows of the car.

It was like a super like at the time, a very artsy-ass, you know, video to be making for somebody from Compton. So I mean, he's always been to have this creative, creative mind. but I think we're going to see some truly, truly beautiful art, you know what I'm saying, with the videos. I'm excited about that. I don't, as I said before, I don't need to say it again, but I don't, you know, the music, we'll see about the music. We'll see about the music.

That, I will say you one thing I took from that video, that pin is still sharp as hell, regardless of how we feel about the way he's taking his music. That motherfucker wrapped his ass off on that shit. I don't question Kendrick's rapping, though. I just, I think Kendra is always going to rap. I just wonder how the music is going to sound. Because, I mean, like, can Kendrick not rap?

I think he's to the point now where, you know, it's just too easy for him. I don't see Kendrick getting on any song and not, you know, barring us to death on that motherfucker, you know? So you guys want to talk about dinosaurs? Hell yeah. Always. All right. I'm horny.

I'm horny. You just, for dinos. You said, dino. You were half with the word in my dick jump. You know what I mean? Let's go. I got your Snickers vein going over there. All right.

Put the veins on my shout out to Argentinian paleontologist Mauro Aranciaga who is living the dream of every kid who ever watched Jurassic Park and said,

I'm going to grow up to be a paleontologist he has discovered a new apex predator in Argentina the Latin name for it is Maip Macro Thorax but it's nickname in Argentina

based on some of the indigenous based on the indigenous macro thorax that's long throat right your thorax is the it's like your abdomen torso yeah yeah yeah I'm thinking larynx me yeah yeah thorax is the god damn head thorax

abdomen thorax is the middle part of the hand right before the yeah exactly exactly the ass bump whatever that shit is The abdomen. No, the thorax is the middle part. What's the third part of the aim? Scientists give us control of Latin. Give us control of the Latin language.

No, I don't think insects have abdomens. Bro, it's head dorex abdomen. I thought it was thorax instead of abdomen on an insect. Yes, what I did. Is it head abdomen d'orax? No, I don't think that. I think Thorax is in place of the abdomen on the insect. Yeah, I think that's what I thought it was.

So it's head abdomen than what then the fuck? because it's three parts of an insect. I thought it was just, no, okay, let's look this shit up. No way, that's what we're just talking about. Insect body diagram. Boy. You're some fucking nerd. Jackson.

Help us out, please. Oh, no, Tyler's right. Head, head, thorax abdomen. So the head is the head. Wow. Insects are the apathens. But this is what's weird. The thorax is the part of limbs and the abdomen is the ass on an insect.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. The abdomen is the squishy part. Yeah. That's what the bug you said. That's what you get some of their green and blue and purple squirrels. You know, you question the right, motherfucker. I remember when, when Nikki Minaj first came out,

and I was like, she looked like she had a thorax because they're, I remember thinking that. So I thought the thorax, I was misplacing. All right. So the part of the insect, my bag. Macro thorax, the nickname, according, that's coming out of Argentinian indigenous mythology, they're calling this dinosaur the death shadow. Man, send me the image.

Send me that shit. Yeah, I didn't see this shit. Group. It is a macro raptor, which means there's a raptor that is enormous. It was six tons and three stories from nose to tail. And I will send you the picture.

So, okay. And it was a rapid... So it ran up and like jumped on prey and cut them open and shit. Like, isn't that what? But it was... It was... Three stories high doing that?

Three stories long. What animals was it doing it to? Phronosaurus and shit? Smaller dinosaurs. Smaller dinosaurs. It was... The claws that they found for it are 17 inches long. 17...

What? The claws on it... The claws on it were 17 inches long. Hell no. I'm scared as fuck. Bro, Jurassic Park did Raptors bad. This was... They might...

You know, we said they, you know, they had us thinking that they, bro, this, this, this, this, this, this, this changes some things. We need a new Jurassic, we need a new Jurassic Park franchise to put the death shadow in there. But hey, the death shadow is the best nickname I've ever heard for a living creature. The death shadow, like you saw the shadow and that's it. That's it. Oh, Lord. All right. We're going to go look at pictures of this dinosaur.

That's all the time we got for this one day show. Yeah, I need all it is, bro. Like I said, Wednesday night, we're. recording live with the buckets guys so you can tap in live on their social channels or the podcast will be in your feed on Thursday. And before we get out of here, we have to shout out our man, Gregory.

Mother fucking Gregory. We pride of you, my boy. Hell yeah. Pride of you, gee. Inspired the hell out of me. Like I said, bro, I was soggy as hell by the face when I, you know, reading his ladies, you know, right up. You know, I'm a big fan of you and y'all.

Yeah. Gregory's girlfriend Ariel hit us up and let us know he's a long time listener of the show. Been through some shit in his life as have all three of us, as have I feel like probably everyone who fucks with the show. And he is graduating with his degree in or his license in social work and going out to try and help make the world slightly less fucked up, which is the greatest goal any of us can seek. And she said, you know, that the pod kind of helped him through some of those, those times and we were happy to be a part of his the surprise video she put together for him so shout out to gregory man thank you for fucking with the show we fuck with you gregory for real for real grateful as fuck bro like if you listen to the show and you fuck with us we cousins bro

that's how i played we play cousins for real for real you know what i'm saying so shouts of the homie hug me when you see me yeah daps and hugs bro bring you up bring that shit in motherfucker you feel we so yeah shouts to gregory man proud as fucking all right we'll be back midweek like I said, Wednesday night, you could listen live after the second game on the bucket social feeds or Thursday. We'll have it up as an episode of Jenkins and Jones in this podcast feed. And we will see y'all then. Bye. Bye.