The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Jenkins and Jonez - Keep Showboating Fun

Episode Date: December 12, 2022

The guys discuss Zion Williamson’s exclamation point dunk against the Suns, Brittney Griner returning home to America, their favorite NFL topics of the weekend, the new Sza album, and much more. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Disclaimer must be 21 and over and select states. Gambling problem, call 1,800 gambler or visit fandul.com slash RG. Welcome to Jenkins and Jones on the Volume Podcast Network. It is Monday, December 12th, and we are coming to you live on the Amazon Ample. app all our episodes Mondays and Thursdays at 7 a.m. West Coast, 10 a.m. East Coast recording live on Amazon Amp. You can follow us there, or you can catch the show after we're done recording on all of your other streaming podcast platforms. As always, Jenkins & Jones hosted by my good friends, Dragonfly Jones,

aka Tyler. Hey, everybody, how's the gun? With Jethro Jenkins, aka John. What's that, Bubbas? I'm Gartie B. aka Mike. How you guys doing, man? I feel like it's, it's, It's been a couple days since we talked. How's that feeling? Why does it feel like it's been so long? It's probably been two weeks since we podcasted, right?

Yeah. Am I tripping? I felt the exact same way. I don't know. Podcasting is life. Let's see if we remember how to podcast. You know what I mean? I don't know.

We'll see. Good luck to us all. Let's talk about this is my favorite topic we've had on the list in a fucking minute. You paid your 80 bucks to go see the Pelican Sun's game. Your team won. They knocked off the sons. They're the number one team in the West. Your young superstar does a fucking 360 windmill.

Put the exclamation point on that bitch. You're going home. You're feeling happy as hell. That's one of the best game experiences of your fucking life. And then you turn on the fucking internet and find out that the sons are saying it wasn't sportsmen like. They're clutching their pearls. They're asking why someone won't think of the children. is this the funniest stupidest shit you've ever heard someone in the NBA complain about or what

yes it is fucking ridiculous listen bro this is where i stand on it um you know i understand the whole disrespect running shit up shit but i don't fuck with that shit on a whole but especially not in this situation because for one the pelicans were at home right these fans came out They spent their hard in money. You know, y'all locked up the win, y'all put on a show for them. I think that's a great way for Zion to send the fans home. Two, I think it's a great way for Zion to let these motherfuckers know he's back as well.

You know what I'm saying? And like I said, I only thought it would have been disrespectful if it was on the road, and I would have loved it even more on the road. Or if it was a layup. Like we saw Rudy Gobert do a fucking last second garbage time layup in Utah. That is disrespectful to the game. Not Zion giving us a dunk contest 50 on the house, bro. That was gracious of Zion.

That was not disrespectful. The only way it's disrespectful if it's fucking children. You're a grown-ass man. Get over the fucking shit. Also, campaign. Basketball player, better at anything than I'll ever be in my life. I still don't give a fuck about what you think when Zion's doing Zion shit. You wish your 78-2-thaz motherfucker could get a fucking 360 windmill off at the end of the game.

Fuck you and all 136 of your teeth. I respect you as a Hooper. But bro, it's free to shut the fuck up, especially when Zion's doing this thing. It's just weird to me, grown men. Like, bro, there's no fucking, there's no like 20, 20 point rule. Like, this is the league. This is the NBA.

If you don't want to get fucking cooked, like, like what's the name said, get back on defense, play defense, whatever the fuck. But y'all got beat. And y'all did the same thing. There's footage of y'all. Running whole ass plays with four seconds left. Also, quit being pussy. The signs, in general, need to stop with that shit.

It's just crazy. But anyway, with this shit, bro, that whole rule is ridiculous. Anytime Zion's doing a 360 windmill dump, it's the right thing to do. I don't give a fuck what some white man said in 1946 about sportsmanship, nigga. And you shouldn't either with your 286, nigger. Get the fuck out of here. You said we don't need to hear what Petrie says about sharp tooth plays, bro. Right, right.

Here's what your muskrat ass has to say about a motherfucking prodigy doing what made him prodigious, okay? Get the fuck out of here. Long neck ass, bro. The only people who lose when unwritten rules are abided by are the fans. You know, I think that the unwritten rules, like you said, bro, it was just made up by old-ass white people like 80 years ago. They're unwritten because black people could start to read at the time that they made those rules. And we came in the league doing cool shit.

And they said, okay, we're not going to write these rules down about you can't do a 360. You know, so yeah, fuck the unwritten rules. The unwritten rules are such bullshit because, like I said, the only people who lose are the fans. Like, for instance, Clay had that 37 point quarter. And then he got sat the whole fourth. Had the hottest hand we might have ever seen in the NBA game. But, you know, you got to respect the fraternity of coaches. So we get robbed out of seeing Clay go for maybe 70 to protect fucking who.

Tyrone Corbyn's feelings. Because we got to follow the unwritten rules. Like, fuck the unwritten rules. Like I said, those people who lose are the fans when those shit's got a by to buy to buy. Steph Curry shooting 40-footers turning his back on niggers, bro. This game is disrespectful. Have you seen what Wimby can do? You know what I'm saying?

You worried about. this motherfucker here, you losing 15, when we're going to put 87 on the motherfucker? Heidi, go we put 80 on, what's the boy name? And what, what, 20, 10 years ago,

we still talk about that shit. Bro, if you get into this game. He still has me blocked for that shit. That's how this respect to the himself. Bro, bro, bro, dog, don't get into basketball looking for respect, bro. They are aliens out here doing alien shit. It is just crazy.

But, like, dog, what about the children? The children want to Zion to do that motherfucker. in 360 windmill. I guarantee. Okay? Like I said, bro, y'all are grown men. I don't,

there's no, there's no skunk rule or whatever the fuck. Y'all got, you know what I mean? If you want, if you wanted to get respect, play respectively,

y'all got your ass whoop. You got a second chance to get your fucking lick back and he bust your ass again, nigger. You know what I'm saying? Hey, if you wanted to get your issue, you should have got it

when you played them back to back, bro. He put up what? 38 and 75 rebounds on them, niggas, man? Bro, I just don't respect. I hate that.

And in general, in life, this is the right way to do shit. It comes off as anti-black. And I hate a nigga getting behind that type of verbiage right there. You know what I mean? There's a right way to do it in a wrong way. We play basketball the right way. It obviously ain't the right way if y'all ass got whooped twice back-to-back, motherfucker. And this thing got a 30-point double-double your ass two times back-to-back,

that ain't the right way to me, motherfucker. How about Chris Paul trying to run the lane for a fucking layup with four seconds left in the game? Dude, everybody says the right way until they're on the other side. You know what I mean? Chris Paul, how about the leader of the son's elbow checking dude in the throat at the end of that game? Chris Paul, you know what I'm saying? Number one dick punching us ever, there's ever dick punched. Bro, I hate all that right way shit.

All of that is fucking cap, nigger, bro. Play better basketball. Get the W. you if the mother if the if the if the if if the if if the if the if the if it's a wide open lane whether it's eight seconds in eight seconds left and he's going if if he doesn't 360 windmill I'm I'm hurt bro you know what I'm saying as a fan of basketball this is entertainment and he entertained that's all that matters bro all this respect you know don't run the score up on adults bro you can do some about this I understand protecting the self-esteem

of a child you are not a child don't don't don't play these sorry ass games because they'll use on the other side, you don't know the same shit. What you look, we said it's an exclamation point, right? Above and beyond all of, I agree with everything you both just said about unwritten rules, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But also, some sentences need an exclamation point at the end of them. This is not just game 43 of 82. Right.

Some team beats another team. This is the Pelicans being the number one team in the West. Are they second in the West Pelicans now? No, they're number one. They're first now. Right, right. And they're at home. And that's a sentence that needs an exclamation point.

The other part of that is the exclamation point. This not a ellipses or a question mark. That is an exclamation point. He 360 windmilled the shit. You're never telling me anyone ever finds a 360 windmill inappropriate. Did you see how fucking high he was? You see how powerful he dunk that shit, bro? He meant that shit.

bitch i'm here like tullet said i'm back niggas you got a deal with me you feel me and i'm 360 winmilling at the end of games on you fuck niggas bro stop being soft with that week shit bro i hate that that we play the right way he 360 winmell on a 10 point lead who gives a fuck like i said get your look back you didn't it's on you next game fuck you me godly you got 82 of these motherfuckers man you ain't wanna hey you can't tell me some of these folks some of the people on that like damn that was a crazy that's a Buy your ass duck. You can't tell me.

You can't tell, bro, if I'm on the bitch, I'm like, damn, you know what I mean? If I'm Booker, I'm like, that was a cold-ass duck. I will say, I will say props to DeAndre and he's not down with the nerd patrol. He said Zion's at home, you got to put it on a show like that for the fans. So shout to DeAndre there. But, you know, I love that. What Zion said, you know, in the post game when he was asked about that.

He was like, yeah, it's a little out of character. But, you know, they bounced my boys last year. And I'm back now. Now they're going to film me. I was like, who, hoo-hoo, this motherfucker. They're going to feel me. Yeah, I love that. Now they're going to feel me.

Love that. And that's some New Orleans talk, too. Now they're going to feel me. That city rubbing while off well on him, you feel me? We got some great news last week. Brittany Griner is home. It was very, I mean, I don't even know the last time we woke up to news like that that just had me.

I was smiling the whole day about that shit. And I was so happy I didn't even see any of the bullshit, you know, people pretending they were foreign policy experts or whatever. whatever, which is always hilarious. But how glad are you guys to see that BG is home? I read last night. She got a workout in at the base she was at. They weren't planning on that or whatever,

but her agent told the ESPN, say, yeah, she picked a ball up and she dumped too. You know what I mean? I love that. They happened to have a court at the base. And she just felt like going in and getting a little work in. But yeah, this is just great. I mean, we'll talk about the bullshit later,

but great news. You know, how did you all feel? when you read it. I love that she's home. I mean, you know, you can be the whole, you go to other countries. You got to respect their policies or whatever. Yeah, that's true.

But God damn, getting sent to the fucking Goulog for a bait pin. Come on, man. Like, we all knew that was bullshit. We all knew that, you know, pute and then was going hard on her just because she was a, you know, prolific American citizen. They knew we knew this was probably to play all along. And gay and black.

Yeah, that too. So, yeah, man, I'm glad she's talking. I am not at all going to profess myself to be a international trade expert. Like everyone on Twitter automatically became the moment that dropped. So I'm just glad she's home, bro. Yeah, all the all the bullshit around it was weird. But like, yeah, I'm just, bro, he seemed like an impossible situation. You know what I mean?

And all the news that I got, it just progressively seemed to get worse. You know what I mean? We're like, you know, she appealed. And then, you know, I'm hearing the chance of winning, you know, over there is minute. Right. You know what I'm saying? Went into the case over there as if I knew.

And then she'd appealed and like, you know, didn't go through. Then she's like, you know, they talked about, what was it, was it 10 years they gave her? Yeah. Something like something like that. Like, you know, like she. And they work. Yeah. Like she got a decade.

I'm like, damn. So I'm, you know. And then finally she's free. So it just seemed like an impossible situation. Me, I didn't know how they're going to figure it out, you know. But, you know, I'm just, I'm happy. I'm happy she's finally home. You know what did they, whatever they had to do.

they did it and I'm grateful for that for sure Well and to Tyler's point Something that happens on Twitter a lot that bothers me is Everyone's a pundit about every issue And sometimes the stuff you would tell your friends When you're worried about them You don't need to say that about a international story If one of y'all told me you were going to Russia

And say you were bringing a bait pan? I would tell you personally Don't fuck around in Russia bro like you know what I mean We need you to come back Stop playing bitch ass nigga You gotta get disrespectful when you do some silly shit like that. But if you're gonna come fight your ass. If your response to an American citizen or any person being put into a work camp for 10 years is, well, you gotta respect Russia's rules.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Like, look in the mirror. That's your emotional reaction is people weren't following Russia's laws closely enough? Like, what do you care about Russia? What is your investment in the legal rules of Russia that you will respond to that? That way, bro. You love rules that much where somebody gets 10 years for a vape pin and they didn't follow the rules. Nika, that shouldn't be a rule.

What about that? You know what I'm saying? And, bro, the situation was just horrible. And it was extremely sad. And it just seemed like it kept getting worse all the information we got. You know what I mean? So, like, I'm just happy, happy, happy to she's finally at the career. So the trade to get BG home was for a man whose real name, I don't even know.

but his nickname, who called nickname, The Merchant of Death. Hey, yo. That's hard. You said, that's hard as a month. I ain't know about you. I let one of y'all say it first,

you feel, that shit goes crazy, you know. That's a movie nickname, bro. That's the new God of War video game, though. God of War, Merchant of Death.

Yeah, it's five. Like, God damn. That's a hard. I'll pay that 69 for that shit. I feel like, you know, immediately, and I, you know, I'll be honest with me. I actually do follow international politics and foreign policy pretty

closely. I'm interested in that stuff. I've never heard of this Paul Wheeland dude who's a dishonorably discharged Marine who's still over there. I hadn't heard of him until B.G. got brought home. And then that was like a like a, like a

joker someone threw on the table. You know what I mean? It was like, well, what about Paul Wheelan. And it was like, well, first of all, can we not be happy that an American is coming home from fucking a work camp in Russia? Like, can we pause right there? If I had woke up and heard this dude I never heard of Paul Wheelan is coming home from a work camp in Russia, I would have said, great.

Let's get all the people out of the work camp. I don't know that nigga, but I'm happy for him because shit, that sounds horrible. Right, right, right, right. But I just, I think it was an extension of what Tyler was talking about with the people that love rules so much. It's just, does everything. have to be a hot topic? Could it could some things not just be this is good and then now we need another thing to happen as the second thing like a little later does everything have to be? Oh,

Britney Griner's come home. What about this other guy? You know, I just I don't understand the need. And it actually kind of makes me sad for people that they that there are people out there who respond to news in that way without being able to take a breath in the real world of actual oxygen and like experience happiness or relief. You know what I mean? That ain't going to get you clicks on Twitter. Garty. You get it.

It's not going to get you the clicks. Listen, listen, hold on. I'm talking to two people who get a lot of clicks on Twitter. And they will both tell you it's not all it's cracked up to be. You don't want Tyler to retweet some dumb shit you said on Twitter on a Tuesday, bro. Trust me. I don't know what your world. Turn your Tuesday right up.

Shot down, bubble. You're right outside. But yeah, it's just, you know, like you said, everyone becomes a pundit immediately when any issue arises on Twitter. Everyone became international, you know, prisoner trade exchange experts. I don't know. Like I said, you know, I got familiarized with this arms dealer through all this. But, you know, I'm not of the belief that his whole operation stopped just because he went to jail.

Like, they weren't insurgents like, oh, merchant of deaths locked up, guys. we've got to delay the coup until like next month like that's that's not how this shit worked bro you know what I'm saying this operation got picked right on up I'm sure and somebody kept running that shit I will say I think the best commentary

I saw on this was when someone tweeted America has tremendous depth that arms dealer you make that trade every time hey that's fucking horrible that's great right that's horrible that's great that's a position of That's life.

That's horrible. That's great. That's life right there. Summed up. Facts. Yeah, you're right. I don't see the merchant to death rolling down the steel shutter closing up shop. Y'all said they're going to do, though, right?

No more insurrections, guys. He put his little two-beat, you know, we'll return clock back at 3 p.m. No insurrections until 3 p.m. tomorrow, guys. Okay, okay. With this dude, like, Russia didn't want him to, like, free him because he's a homie, though, right? Y'all said they was trying to, right? Right. Right.

Yeah, they might do him bad over there, you feel me so. 100%, which is the other thing where they're like, oh, we're like, I mean, and again, it's people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Oh, they're letting him loose. You know, they acted like it was like you let a bond villain out to pick up his stuff again. It was like, no, no, no. He did not want to go see Vladimir Putin, bro. Bro.

That nigga got out of jail and went to hell, nigga. What you fucking you mean? He's not in an Air Force base dunking a basketball right now. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. All right. They might be freaking seeing that man right now. They got that man flipping and flopping his ass on the motherfucker.

Like he's a dude. They got a chef cooking his ass. right now, baby. They're working that, nigga. All right. They're going to have them looking like jeepers creepers by

Monday of the night, motherfucker. Talk about it. There's nothing in the world John wants to see more when we're recording a podcast than me hoping he'll stop talking about something.

That's his favorite. That's fucking catnip to John. All right. Did y'all see the Elon Musk tweet on Sunday? my pronouns are prosecute Fauci.

He's so corny, bro. I don't even want to talk about the tweet, but here's something I saw before we started recording, which is that Rudy Gobert liked that tweet. Of course, the fucking pandemic man. The pandemic, the inventor of the pandemic himself.

Patient zero. Of course he's the fucking like it. He's the one that press the fucking, the buttons. You know what I'm? And all jokes aside, when we look back on this in the history books, we are going to look at that Rudy press conference as a moment that this shit shifted for us.

Right, right. I told you all that. We were going to the theater, at a theater with a bunch of old people to see, damn, what we're even going to see? New York story, I don't even fucking remember. But they canceled that game. We got the push alert on our phone as we were walking into the theater.

Then we go sit in the theater. theater with like 1500 senior citizens. And we're sitting there going, I bet this, this is interesting. And then two days later, the kids are home from school for a year. You know what I mean? I always think about Rudy Gobert at the beginning of that shit. And I feel like Rudy's just sort of operating on some cognitive dissonance. Cognitive.

Cognitive. Rudy Gobert. Rudy Gobert. But like, I feel like he needs the pandemic to be a hoax. Just personally, he needs. needs that. He can't believe he was the one that did that shit when he did it. He can't believe that. His ego just can't accept it. You know what I mean? All right. I want to talk a little bit about a couple of football stories real quick. I'm hoping to get the gridiron girls on again soon.

Sorry, we couldn't make that happen this week. Schedules are a little difficult with some of the new recording times, but a couple of funny stories. First of all, did y'all see on Thursday night? uh the the rams winning because baker mayfield literally like walked off the street on tuesday but like didn't really even have a playbook they're just drawing shit up and then leads a 98 yard game winning touchdown against the raiders that's a fucking crazy issue that's a movie script right there yeah bro motherfuckers were grittyin when the fucking ball when the punt you know drop down into two and shit you talk about the raiders oh the raiders i mean the videos of the raiders celebrating when And that punt got downed at the two because they were like, oh,

and they got Baker Mayfield, the quarterback. He doesn't even know the fucking plays. I mean, you're right. They were literally grittying as the ball is being downed on the tube. The motherfucker fucking punter wiped his nose and shit. A white butter. Did this? The white butter did that?

Wipe his nose. You're dead. Yeah. And of course they lost because they're the fucking Raiders, bro. Did you see the head butt after where he had? headbutted a dude with he didn't have an helmet on crazy that was the wildest shit I saw some football players love doing that shit it's not usually quarterbacks yeah that's some lineback I mean but I guess I think Baker Mayfields would like doing that you know

I mean yeah anyway I that was just like I had to and I have a good friend who plays for the Raiders too I was fucking sick for him but it was like that's the funniest shit he's fucking grittying at the down punt the punter fucking live shit fucking Baker Mayfield like literally doesn't even know all the receiver's names yet you're like I'm doing gang shit doing gang signs up

like bro the other uh the other story this happened on Sunday I know uh I know John especially doesn't watch football uh closely so maybe maybe this is I hope this is news to you because I want I want your first reaction to hearing it

you know Tom Brady's from Northern California. And so he's playing in San Francisco for only the second time in his career that he played in San Francisco. About 150 tickets. So his friends and family from, I think he's from San Mateo up there, could go and see him play in San Francisco. Couldn't have worked out better for him. Niners top two quarterbacks are out for the season. He's playing against a guy named Brock Purdy. His nickname from the 49ers is BCB for Big Cock Brock, which is a great nickname. I love it. Brock Purdy is a rookie who was selected last overall in the NFL draft this year. Never in NFL history has a person taken last in the draft thrown for a touchdown ever in the history of the NFL.

And Brock Purdy goes like 22 at 26 for 200 something yards and like four touchdowns. They're up 35, they're up 35 zero at one point. Tom Brady. It's the first time ever that a quarterback making his first start beats Tom Brady. And they had to just slowly pull that camera off of the 150 people. Tom Brady and put that shit on Brock Purdy's mom and dad sobbing in the stands. You could have been a hole with your supermodel wife. Now you get beat by a nigga named Brock.

In front of your whole family, nigga. All your family and friends. God damn. Sheesh. The universe is spinning a block on your ass right now, G. Most embarrassing loss of his career, and he brought all the hobbies out for it. Paid 100, got 100.

Did he pay for 100 for $150 tickets you said? 150. Somebody do the math on that. He bought a section. He bought a section out for his fucking. To see his, to see a nickname Brock. Big Cock Brock. drag his dick right across Tom Brady's sharp-nosed faith.

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Gambling problem, call 1-800 gambler or visit fandul.com slash RG. Did you all see that Chris Tucker says rush hour four is being made? Yes. Is he in it? Is America ready for racism to be funny again? Is he in it? Yeah, he's in the shit, him and Jackie. I got a confession.

I've never seen Rush Hour 3, bro. Have y'all? Which one was that? Exactly. Rush Hour 3. No, I think I might have seen it, but they all run together to me. I'm pretty sure we saw it when it came out. Shara is a huge, huge, huge Jackie Chanfay.

I'm pretty sure. I saw a shower 3. Was this the one when they stole the daughter of the other? That might have been two. bro. That's the first one. Which was the second one? The second was when they dangling up. The second one is when they go to Hong Kong. Yeah. Oh, and he's dangling up at the top of the building and shit. All right. Yes. I've seen that one. What was the third one about? Mike? You remember that? I don't know. I don't know. I can look at this. But people don't, people don't need me to do. They all won long assing in the right? In my memory, you know what I mean? So what do you think? Is the world past rush hour by or are we ready for Asian people to make black jokes and black people to make Asian jokes on a movie screen? I mean, if they're funny, if it's funny. You know, but the harsh truth is Chris Tucker, hey, that's what I'm saying.

That thing ain't been funny in a long time, man. That fastball ain't there no more, bro, so, you know. He ain't been funny. I think I saw a special they had of him. Yes. I think this might have been. It was hard. I think I think this is before Kanye even flipped the script.

So this had to be like 2015 or something. You know what I mean? Maybe in 2014. It was, it was hard. Stop. Listen, bro. P, you. That man said he went to the McDonald's drive-doing

and did the same time, same time, I don't know you, man. I said, yeah, this is, that's it for me. I was like, I'm cutting it. That's a two, bro, that's a 1998 joke. That's not even in the 2000. That's pre-Y2K, my nigga. You could have got a chuckle out of me, you know what I mean? Back when the thong song was fucking running the radio,

It's a Cisco joke right there. Bro, that's it. That is wild. Since I took the one bandaid off my face, I would not laugh at that. Reve me? Bro. Sheesh, bro. Tyler said, Mr. Tucker, respectfully,

I have a lot of respect for your body of work, but this is where I get off, sir. Bro. I'm going to still tap in, but like I said, I don't have high expectations because Chris Tucker ain't got it. You really going to tap in? I don't be doing shit. I'll peep it.

I mean, I'll be doing shit either But I don't be doing that You know what I'm saying? Bro, it's going to be streaming like two months after it hits theaters I'll probably Yeah, but the thing about that I'll fuck around and watch a good bad movie I don't know if this would be good bad

You know what I mean? Like there's no world in which I referenced earlier It's a good bad movie You know what I'm saying? Like, rush hour four Like if Jackie Chan has a new movie coming out and it's coming out and why release there's zero world in which

Shar is not going to see that. So I will let you all know how it is probably on opening weekend. The face is going to be soggy as hell too, bro. It's going to be moist as a motherfucker on that screen, dog. Jeez. How old are they now?

Mid-50s? That's got to be 50, right? I think that might be older than that, right? That might be on the low side, though. Because how old it wasn't? I feel like he was in the seventh grade when Friday came out. Yeah, Friday came out 95. He had to have been like 25 then.

That was like 27 years ago. Chris Tucker is 51. You're right. You're right. He's 51. Yeah, yeah. He looks much older than Jackie Chan, who is much older than him. Damn, let me look up a Chris Tucker pit.

Jackie Chan is 68 and will be running circles around fucking Chris Tucker. He's going to be jumping up, running up walls and shit, man. That motherfucker. A treasure I thought. Chris Tucker was that nigger, dog. that dude, bro. He was so funny when Friday dropped. When did it fall off?

What did the wheels fall off? He got super religious, didn't he get super religious? Yeah. Because he was talking about some of it. I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to cuss in movies anymore. He was talking about some of that. Yeah, yeah, because he said kids were coming up to

him making weed jokes about Friday and that made him like turn to God and shit. Yeah. I think that would, I kind of get that. It's weed, though, dude. It's weed, man. Like, I could have said they come to you're making crack jokes, but it's weed, dog.

It's a gateway drug, Tyler. You ever heard of it? That's a gateway to the gateway for Tyler, bro. Right, right. It's a gateway to, we brought me to more weed. I'm still scared of that other shit. It's a gateway, it's a gateway to the cereal aisle at the grocery store like that. You feel me?

I always need a lot of mic and I, that's my idea. Well, and Chris Tucker should, you know, Chris Tucker shouldn't take it for granted because it's probably also the only gateway that would get Tyler to watch rush hour four so there you go it all works it might be funny as hell hot right though I'm gonna give it a chance it might I don't know we'll see we'll see we'll see we'll see I'll see I can see like in the 90s you know I'm gonna tell me that you did you know what I'm saying I all were the kids that matter is that middle schoolers like 12 years old that uh that might I think everyone I know saw Friday a couple years before we should have seen Friday for sure.

So I wouldn't be surprised if it was some. Yeah, I think it was a 67th grade when it came out. So something like that. What, wasn't it? Yeah, I was like fifth or sixth grade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it was meant for ninth graders. That shit was fine.

Hey, babe. That's your. I will never forget this. My stepdad, country ass digger, you know what I'm saying? We watch Friday. We all. We all, you know, we pay-per-view. The whole family sits down in the family room.

We all laughing. I remember him said, I don't want to watch this. These niggas back in there. He wanted them, motherfucker. You feel me? Pick a pull up your pants, motherfucker. Right, right, right, right, right. You feel me?

A suit jacket wearing ass nigger. You feel me with jeans and shit. Anyway, you know, he's cool, though. We can be cool anyway. So this motherfucker, he got up and left because he was laughing too hard. He was just a little of a laugh. was mad how funny the movie was. And God, I can't watch this no more.

You too good to laugh at the niggins jokes. I would never forget when the first time I saw John Withers Foothel ask you, you better pour some water in that damn shit. I thought my soul was going to leave my body. That was like the funniest thing to 12-year-old me I'd ever seen him my fucking life. I was crying, laughing, bro. And he was too, and that's what angered him. That's right.

He's going to sit there and stare at it and ruin our good time. And he fucked around and had a good time. He got mad. Fuck around and stumbled on a masterpiece, motherfucker. You got a hot-fluid-ass, nigga. You know, every six months or so someone... I'll make fun of when I see him about that shit, too. I'm going to clown his ass.

A couple times in here... Before you got so mad, he was laughed at Friday. He was too good to laugh at weed jokes, nigga. He cool now, shit. Every time I see the tweet, the... What's a reference you make without remembering it's a reference one? The answer for me from fifth through 10th grade was, you got knocked the fuck out.

You would drop that at anything, bro. If someone bumped into someone too hard in the hallway, you got knocked the fuck out. Bro, him jumping over that man. The way he shook his head and shit, bro. He's going to cry in the car. So many corners. Bro, I remember motherfuckers was saying that in like 2003.

He going to cry in the car. And it was still funny. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that might be, honestly, that might be the most quotable movie of all times. It's, bro. I think it's perhaps the greatest black comedy ever. I think it's between that and coming to America.

It's between those. Coming to America. Oh, wow. Also Harlem Knights. Can't leave that out of there. Yeah. I remember the first time watching Harlem Knights. I was like, because I, I'll call it.

to a late. I remember I was working at Hardee's, and the nigger, you know, the manager, he actually ended up snatching some money and shaking town. He had a little side thing, got caught up with her, snatched a little bread, and vamped out. He didn't, him, a nigga might still be on the

run. Anyway, I remember on Hardy's money. The Hardy's star chasing him across. It was about, it was crazy as at the time. It seemed like a lot of money. It might have been 3K in that motherfucker. He risk his freedom for 3k

because of a side thing you feel me regards to that I remember we were working the little burger station in the back you know I'm saying one Friday night he told me about Harlem Knights you feel me I rented it at Blockbuster and I was like nigga this the funniest shit I ever seen

so Harlem Knights up there too for it so man stop shooting that little shit I almost bro when he said that shit I got up and ran around the house bro that shit had me crying, dog. Great.

Curious for your guys' thoughts, I assume you both listen to the new Sizz album. Curious for your guys' thoughts. I love it. I love it. I think that sonically, you know, it sounds great. I will say that, and this is so unfair to Sizzan,

I'm aware of that, but, you know, I think that everyone's kind of comparing it to control. I think you have no choice but to compare a follow-up album to the album that came before it. But it, it, I feel like control, first of all, control is a fucking masterpiece. You know what I'm saying? I want to be clear. We've talked about the shit in the, we have random ass days and we just talk about that

shit in the chat, right? Like, right, right, yeah, I have said that I think that is the best R&B album of the 2010s. You know, it gets my book of that. Yeah. Yeah, and so, you know, I do think it's unfair to hold scissors to that standard because that's, that's an album you have once in your career. You only have that in you once in your lifetime, right?

But I think what I love most about control is that it felt like a snapshot into, you know, a late 20s, you know, young lady going through all of the fucking, you know, insecurities and the societal pressures and all of that and being vulnerable and weighing herself out like that. I think that this album lacks that cohesionness because it's five years in the making, you know what I'm saying? It's 23 songs too. Yeah, yeah. A lot of different, like, features and all that. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, um, I will say that it's, it's a great.

album but it's not the experience that controls but like I said I'm fully aware that I'm probably being unfair to this is about comparing you know this to her magnum opus up yeah controls like you said it's a masterpiece it's a perfect fucking album right and it feels like I mean it feels like she worked with the same person the entire time I don't know how many features she had I don't remember many features on that on that album but it it was extremely cohesive it was one body of work And this feels a little, you know, like more experimental, you know what I mean? Which, but it's not bad. You feel me?

Um, I think the difference for me is I was in a space when control came out where that shit was relatable to me in a particular way, right? We're like, I felt like the things she were talking about, I could kind of relate to like, you know, relationship shit and shit being, you know, not, shit not being sweet and all of the stuff she was talking about. Um, but, you know, for me. now like I'm married that's a nigga with a whole ass shit child you know

I mean the shit don't read like right don't hit the same for me so I don't know you know if like the music doesn't touch you the same way but it sonically is still great you know what I mean so I think it's a great album I just and I think I may have aged out you know what I'm saying of feeling it in the way that I felt control but I still love the sound of it you know what I'm saying

I do want to say we didn't talk about Smino and I think everybody one of my favorite albums a year love for rent i don't know if y'all tapped in and i'm not being biased but that shit was crazy though maybe that touched me because i'm the st louis nigger but that was a hell of an album though we didn't rap about that yeah i got a peep i ain't i ain't rent that's the new simino yet yeah that love for rent is bro special special but yeah anyway scissors i think it's a great album he's a great follow-up album i think that's control was made it it it's impossible to live up

to that you know but it but it feels like you know she did the she she she she she followed that up in the best way possible. You know what I mean? And the best way she could. But it's a great album, great album. 23 songs. I thought I thought it would feel long as fuck. It was actually overwhelming when I saw the amount of songs on there.

It's 23 songs, but it's only like an hour and two minutes. Yeah, yeah. But it ran in it and it just kind of like, it just, you know, all that, I don't, everybody loves that Phoebe Bridges join. I'm like, I don't need that Avril Laville-a-a-a-old song. But, you know, other than that, you know what I mean? It's cool. Y'all probably loved it, though.

You know what I mean? I probably loved that song. But yeah, that's only one I really like. I think the Abrele-Levin shit is... I'm a big Phoebe Bridgers. I'm a big Phoebe Bridgers. I'm saying, I'm saying, like, Phoebe Bridges, like... Is that not the...

Is that not Phoebe Bridgers? That's the one that feels like... Feels like an Averal Levine song. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah, it does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't quite tap into that type of music growing up. You know what I mean?

There was a few of them like, you know what I mean? Unpopular. That shit that was just on... Not a surf and shit like that. Like, you know what I mean? Teen Spirit. There's like eight songs that I remember that, you know, had that alternative type vibe that I was fucking with. But yeah.

In fairness to you, Tyler is a total alien in that. Oh, for sure. And I had black friends who listened to white music, but I never had a black friend who, like, knew all of the pixie shit before Tyler. I love that rock shit, bro. Didn't you tell me, didn't you tell me, uh, on snow days, you would run around a house? house to be like, school's out for summer. I used to receive that shit in the hallways, bro. Hey, right, right.

What was doing that? What nigger was doing that? The only Tyler, you know what I mean? That's some brat pack shit, you know what I mean? Like, that's some shit they would do on breakfast clubs, you know what I mean? Some 16 candle shit. Right, right. I wanted to know what you guys thought about the AI art shit that's taking over everything.

I've seen a bunch of. sort of vaguely conspiratorial theories about this that this is like step two on like a 15 step thing by which like all artists human artists are being replaced or whatever else john i know you're someone who you know i mean both you guys but john for as long as i've known you someone who you know is a is an artist and thinks about things that way so i'm just kind of curious for your thought on that because like everything with technology it went very quickly from being like oh look at these cool drawings of themselves people are posting to like wait is this part of the end of civilization or like what the fuck's going on here i didn't i didn't feel that way for me i just thought of like

i don't want to do it because of the facial recognition shit you know i mean like i already gave my bio data to clear you know what i'm saying like i don't need to give anymore to these dicks you know what i'm saying but like as far as like the the the the whole you know like i didn't i don't think it were like that like you know these these are to me It seemed like these were just people. It's a moment in time. You know what I mean? There's been similar stuff to this prior, you know?

And it just doesn't stick, you know? So I didn't feel that way, but I did see some of my artist homies like, here is some real art, you know what I mean? That are, I mean, my artist homies are pretentious as fuck. I'm keeping honest with you, you know what I mean? So when they get to getting on that stick, you know, I kind of like, it goes in one ear and out of the other. Hope none of the niggis is listening to my shit.

I love you all today. man but y'all be on some shit sometimes you feel me so I didn't really feel that way but we'll see we'll see we'll see but I understand that they felt uncomfortable like but I don't like they pay what the two pay 499 for these like little mock-ups it didn't it doesn't really I saw Brian did it it seems like a it's like a flash in the pan it doesn't seem like something that's going to stay around where people are going to it's going to get take artists out of business like I know I just put the artists I like you know this this will not in any way of affect what they got going on. You feel me?

They have their own particular style where it can't be imitated with, you know, just some, you know, some AI technology. So I think, I think all of us hate to see the potential of, you know, AI taking jobs from actual humans. Like, you know what I'm saying? This could be like a fucking self-checkout kiosk of, of the fucking art world here. You know what I mean? But I hope it doesn't get to that point. But I'm with you. I'm, I'm just leery of the facial recognition shit, bro. Like, I do not need you selling my shit to like a porn company. And I'm on the fucking banner like this guy is not getting any ass in your city don't be like him like with my face right i do i need to stumble about that tweet with him i was like talking about broke people

he was like why you use my image i ain't got nothing to do with this you know what me yeah so that's my old shit it's just i don't want my shit popping up on some bullshit bro that i ain't sign off on yeah that's all that's all i don't really think of it in this how how are your r homies uh uh mike like what what they were they all like they were they all like they all like they all like super anti this. I don't really see a lot. I had a couple of people who are doing art. I had a couple of people send it to me and they were saying like they're like some of

the art that was used to train this AI was like used against the will of the artists. But there's kind of like nothing they could do it. But it's like there's kind of nothing they could do about it because it's like an open source thing. So if you have the art, which pretty much all artists have their shit so that you can see it online. So like that the styles were taken from specific people who are not being like credited or compensated.

Because there's, I don't know that there's really a way to, like, prove how you trained an AI or whatever. You know what I mean? So that people were sending me that, which, like, that was, it's just one of those things. Like, did you all watch the good place, that TV show? I think I've talked to you all about it, but I don't. I watched a few episodes of it. There's a, there's one episode of that show that I think about quite a bit that was like, um, they, the whole, the thing with the show is it takes place in the afterlife.

And like the shows about ethics and morality or whatever, but it's a, it's a, comedy or whatever. But there's this dude who was like, they met in the afterlife who is, his whole goal was that he was like trying to live an ethical life. And so the way he was like pointing out was like, you can't really like live in the modern world ethically. Because like every single product, every single like the freeways were built unethically, right? Like the cars were built unethically. The phones and compute like there's no real way to exist. And so it just made me think of that episode was like, yeah, I just thought it was like a filter that people were doing. You know what I mean?

I wasn't thinking about, oh, they're stealing this old dude's art to train a computer or how to. Yeah, I didn't see it that way. Also, like, one of like the, I remember going to art school, like, one of the quotes that we were used was like, don't borrow still. Like, we're all influenced by other people. But do it so good that it becomes yours and they forget the other nigga that did it. So, like, and that's a, like, that's a pretty common.

known, you know what I'm saying, way of moving when it comes to, like, influence and stuff like that, or, you know, or being inspired. So, I don't think it's, I mean, like I said, there's, there's artists I love. And I want to buy from them. And it, like, as somebody that fucks for art, I'm going to fuck with their shit.

Right. You know what I mean? But, like, this is, if, I mean, this, you may be able to buy this similarly to how you buy some, you know, some weak ass art in Target or whatever. Not, that ain't weak. There's some cute ass shit.

I probably will put it up at my house that you can buy. talking to you know what I'm saying? So like to keep it a stack that shit be looking kind of cute but so I mean like I think you know I don't know if I mean you know how

I don't know how much it would affect the you know the space as a whole the industry as a whole but I do understand their fears I do respect it but like I said

I didn't feel the same way when I looked at it thought it was a flash in the pan um and we'll find out shit yeah um all right last thing before we get out of here

John you tweeted something about tomato jam that has been haunting my thoughts. Is that, is that not ketchup? I don't understand like, no, no.

Well, you know, like, rather she's way more experiment to me. Like I, you know, I'm the face of persimmons now, you know what I mean?

Not really, but to most niggas, I might be the face of persimmis. Like, I thought them just was tomatoes. You know what I mean? I was talking about, I had some St. Louis homies

come through this week and we were talking, they were saying, I didn't know what this persimmon was. You said it. You know what I mean? Every time I see a persimmon, I think of you but anyway um you know rather you know told me about like she she's more

experience she's one to tell me about persimmins you know what I mean like I thought they was tomatoes when she first posted them shit I'm like why are you putting tomatoes on Instagram you know so she's the one to kind of get me to step outside of my you know outside of my you know my you know my small circle of shit that I fuck with you know I mean uh but yeah so she was like you know tomato jam you know she had me to tap in with it and uh we was at we was at one of my favorite little coffee shop I was highly like me. So yeah, we tapped it.

I got like the, they gave me that was a jam of the day or whatever. And I tried that shit. And I'm like, yeah, God. Like that, I was so shocked. Like, it wasn't just like, oh, it's not trash. You know what I mean? It was delicious.

The shit was delicious. What would you put it on? Bread. I just, it was like bread that you use it like jam. You put on bread, biscuit. You know what I'm saying? The same reason y'all pick jelly over peanut butter is sweet, bro. It's, it don't even, they, what they did with that tomato was very untimatoy.

I mean, like, it's just like a, a small hint of tomato. It's like, it's like, it's like if tomato was candy. Like, it's like, if tomato was, if we imagine tomatoes. I can't picture it. I cannot picture it. I cannot picture it. Another fruit scientifically, but if they were actual fruits to humans, like, we, like, that's how they made that tomato taste, you know what I mean?

And, yeah, it was, tomato jam is really good. good it's bro you know like bro i be clown i love clown of white people bro i don't want to give y'all shit you know what i'm saying but bro digger y'all be getting it right dog that shit go crazy that shit go crazy sometimes y'all be you know what i'm saying going crazy that shit fired dog all right that's all the time you tap in tap in you should tap in i don't even know where i would buy tomato jam bro you probably more anti-white than me so you might not fuck with it just because You don't want to fuck with it. It seems like some Italian shit.

It seems like I would try it because it seems like some Italian shit. Of course, it's Italian to you. If I like it, it's Italian. If I like it, it's not white. It's Italian. All right, that's all the time we got. We'll be back on Thursday. Thanks as always for listening.

And we'll see y'all in a couple days. Bye. Bye.