The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Jenkins and Jonez - Steph Curry The Villain

Episode Date: March 16, 2023

The guys discuss their plans for March Madness, Steph Curry talking trash, Giannis still being the best player in basketball, white hygiene, and more. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Was that Bubba's? Dragonfly Jones, aka Tyler. Hey, everybody. How's it again? I'm Garty B. aka Mike. Mother fucking Mike. Mother fucking Mike's fighting a, you know, a migraine as well. This is the closest I've come to doing a podcast hungover. Yes. This is your flu game.

this is it. No, the flu game was the one where I had to shit the whole podcast, and I fucking went Bob's Burgering out as soon as we were done recording. And fucking John never stopped making fun of me about it. That might have been when I started taking fiber pills, actually. That might have been an episode. I forced you into being healthier. Bullying works, people.

Bullying works. Bullying works. Bullying your friends into seeing doctors and be healthy. That's generally a good idea. You know, we were just talking to Jackson about his world-renowned art. And you guys were talking. Tyler was talking about the key to making art is to commit to the bit. And I have to say when you feel even like 5% off reading your friend's Twitter handles

on your fucking shared podcast feels like this stupidest shit in the world. I'm just over here like my stomach hurts. I'm just like it's Dragonfly Jones, aka my friend Tyler. Like I'm a total fucking idiot. All of this shit is stupid. I don't ever take for a second. And I am getting paid the easiest money in my life to talk shit. of my friends and thousands of people love it.

All this shit is dumb, bro. Right. You were talking about how this podcast will be stupid. I'm like, what podcast hasn't been dumb? You know what I mean? Like, this is what we get paid for. You feel me? It's fair.

It's silly. It's usually a little more. I'll just warn all the list. There's usually a little more prep goes into being. Bro. The specific kind of stupid that we are. Bro, people on Twitter will talk shit to me. You know, during a little basketball arguments,

they get their little feelings heard or whatever. And they'd be like, yeah, with your little shitty podcast. I'm like, bro, you think I'm going to defend the honor of podcast to you? Like, you think that hurts me? Yeah. You really, you got me there, buddy. You know?

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Merch Madness. Get in. All right. Today is Thursday. It is the start of March Madness for real. Gentlemen, have you cleared the schedules? Are we just on the three of us just on the couch by coastally all day watching basketball?

What are we doing? What's the plans? You know, I'm going to have the TV on this little background noise. I used to be so into this. Like when I was working in the offices and shit, like I would take these. days off, bro. Like that Thursday and Friday, I had that pencil in every year as like some PTO days. But now it's just, you know, background noise basically. Wait until the game is interesting. I mean, that makes sense. I'll do the same thing. But yeah, back in the day,

I would be at work, but my door would be closed and locked and I have my headphones on. So I would be clocking in because I didn't want to waste the PTO time, but nobody would know that I was in there. So I might as well have not been at work. Somebody knocking the door. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Legit for. Jethro's not in today. You feel me? I'm excited for that. I will say I've never watched less college basketball than I have this year.

Like I've not watched literally one minute of a game that I wasn't paid to cover this year. So it's like I know a couple kids at UCLA. I've heard about the stuff happening in Alabama. That's basically it. Like I'm just going in like a cold plunge completely knowledgeless. I'm basically Charles Barkley. I'm just going in like Charles Barkley. Like here's some games.

I'll learn about the teams. Someone had a great tweet yesterday. They said, you know it's March Madness when I'm yelling at a college basketball team I've never watched before. Run your stuff. Like you know the sense. Bro, did you see the Amari Bailey file? Did you see that? Yeah.

Like I was, I was, did you see it, Tyler? No, I didn't. There was a dunk that Amari had. We're like, bro, just body to body bang. If anything, it was a file in the defensive player. The ref calls it offensive file. You know what I mean? Like he, I mean, it was, it was like, it's one of those files where it's like,

please get this motherfucker away from the game. You know what I mean? It was such a bad call. He called a mid-air offensive foul. The guy was jumping, body, body. Like, the dude jumped with him. Bro, it felt racist. I know it was.

It was so bad that it was like, there has to be racism here. You know what I mean? Like, it was such a bad call, dog. And that made me feel like, bro, like, as much as like, as series I used to take it, none of this should be taking serious. because the basketball's not that good. The roughing is even worse. You know what I mean?

But we're all going to tap in. We haven't watched the game. And I guarantee I'll be yelling at a few of these motherfuckers. At a 19-year-old. Yeah, you're right, right. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, so, man, yeah.

Get into your system. Right, right. Run some O. Run some O. You know what I mean? Call out the screen. Get in a stance. Get in a stance.

Get in a stance. One stop, motherfucker. Don't settle. Don't settle. Don't get to the rack. I will yell get to the rack in my fucking house by myself at least 30 times this weekend. All right. Let's talk a little NBA.

I know you guys both have an appreciation for Steph Curry and the difference between who he really is and what his image is to some of being this very nice, polite gentleman of a light-skinned nature. And I know that you guys both see him as I see him. which is one of the most nasty competitive dudes, you know, never, never dirty, but an absolute supreme shit talker. And boy, do he unload one on fucking Chris Paul this week. He said it ain't 2014 no more for really no reason that he did that, just to plant the seed in his head, I guess, before the playoffs.

But what did you think of, of Steph feeling back to, clearly feeling back to playoff form as we get ready for the playoffs? I love shit talking stuff I don't know why people want to clean up his image like he's some church boy who doesn't talk shit I love shit talkers Steph is really good at talking shit

and the thing about step is he's the type who talks shit after he busts your ass right like I respect that type of shit talking you know what I'm saying it's for him to just to just hurl that insult at that geriatric man Cliff Paul who is in the twilight of his career and he just called back to the golden

days of that man's life when he was a peak player, when he was better than Steph, and to just let him know that, bro, it's a new day, you ain't what you used to be. I'm still that dude. Like, I loved it, man. And for what, I'm not going to feel bad for Chris Paul because Chris Ball, because Chris Ball was talking some big shit. The Steph went when, you know, Chris Paul was on top in that robbery, I'm positive. So, you know, like we talked about before, the pendulum always swings back, baby. Some good old-fashioned ageism. You know what I mean? Love to see it, dog Back to my roots

No, bro I mean, dog Like, I mean, Steph When he's talking shit He's the most fun You know what I mean? Like dude, The ring celebration

The game before they actually Won the fucking ring You know what I mean? Like, bro, that's fun That's like, I mean like, though Like him, like I just,

I just, him being a church boy Like that's not That's not what he is He is a fucking demon On the court, okay? And that's his best attribute

It's that he'll do something to you that nobody else can do and then he lets you know that he did it to you and that nobody else can do the shit you feel me and it's just so weird how they try to like i guess people want to to feel like you know like i think step's a guy that they said like we can we can do what step does you know he's a little guy he's right you know he's no he's six three he can fucking deadlift 4005 pounds there's nothing normal about him you know i mean like it he's not you can't mimic that and the fact that he's he's not you can't mimic that and the fact that he lets people know all the time and people ignore that.

Why? Lean in. He's a fucking villain on the court. I love that shit, bro. Yeah, and they look a little scary, bro. I'll be honest with you. I mean, I don't know. I mean, obviously they still have major holes.

They definitely need, you know, I don't, they're not winning anything without Wiggins, but it definitely is like what's so fun about Steph and Clay in that offense is they've got the puncher's chance, right? You just like, you've seen that in these games that they pulled out recently. It's like, I don't know, man. that dude once he starts talking shit I just look at that dude and I'm like I don't

you know I'm not a gambling man but it's like I don't I would not bet against that dude bro I'm just wouldn't do it. Clay had 30 I think in the first half of that game you know what I'm saying like bro like I mean the Warriors as much as I rooted against them they're fun to fucking watch you can't ignore that we talked

about that shit with with a interview with Langston with Langston with Langston with Langston right right exactly exactly so whenever we see a glimpse of that Hell yeah, I'm tapping in, bro. That was the best basketball we've ever seen. Lankson, Kerman is like the nexus of so many inside jokes at this point.

Like, I've been calling everything, I've been using the phrase silly-billy so much since we interviewed Lankston. He made silly-billy cool. You don't use the silly-billy? Adrian. He would like, really? You're silly-billy ass? Like, he'll say that shit.

Yeah, you feel me? Yeah, he, he niggas it up. You know what I mean? He doesn't feel like silly-billy. comes out as mouth. I've been calling Maya a silly Billy since we talked to Langston. It's like, that's just being a little silly billy. That's fun. That's fun. That's fun.

But no, man, when Ager's just says silly billy, it feels like, you feel like, damn, am I being a silly billy? I don't want to be a silly billy. You know what I? You really got a check. You really got a check. Yeah, you feel. But to go back to the whole Steph thing, I feel like I will never understand. I mean, because the whole, you know, Steph is so humble, you know, that was all from people

who wanted, who are Golden State fans who were Steph fans and wanted Steph to be universally loved and, you know, adored and all that. I would never understand fans who want everyone to love their favorite player or love their favorite team. It's so much more fun when your favorite team or favorite player pisses people off. It really is.

I've enjoyed it way more. Like, we just saw, I don't know if y'all saw this clip with Monty Williams complaining about Janus last night. Did y'all see that shit? Mm-mm. I did. Yeah. He basically said, well, you know, Janus is just out there running into us all the time and he's going to line all the time and Booker only had three free those and people are like yeah yonis that's all he does he runs into people I'm like bro as a yonis fan I love seeing shit

like that that man is out there punishing you and you are crying in public like like I love calling the cops yeah you're calling the cops on this man you snitching after games he's just running into us yeah so so yeah I'm not out there to defend oh you're selling yon it's way too short he's way more skill that no I love it cry because there's nothing you can do about it because he is literally out there punishing y'all. Yeah. Right. He's a bully.

And Steph is too. Steph is a bully. You know what I'm saying? Steph is bullying people on the basketball court. He bullies C-B-3. Went through him for and one and it tells him it ain't 2014 anymore, nigger. Old nigger. You know what I mean?

Retire. Nigger. Bro, why are you here anymore, old man? I do. I did want to say. Did you guys see the clip that I assume Jackson cut together of Draymond talking about Steph talking shit to CP3? That's the most 2023 shit ever.

I'm talking shit on you and my homie has a rollout of the behind the scenes of me talking shit about you. Like, damn. I said, hey, did we drop that on the volume network? It was like, Draymond was hyping it up and he was like, that's the, you know, that's the coldest thing you could say to something. someone, you're like, this hasn't even been debatable for a decade that I'm better than you. Oh.

But I was just like, damn, I thought it was a funny moment, but that it's like, here goes Draymond Hobbs on this podcast to like give you the annotations. What was so wild about that shit is it made me feel old. I didn't realize 2014 was so long ago. I was like, damn, nigga, like 2014. That's almost nine years ago. Yeah. Like, damn.

I was like, damn. Don't start thinking about that shit. it too much. Don't start thinking about this. Damn stamp? Why you? What did I? What did my old ass do to you?

You know what I mean? My friend Ryan does that all the time. He's always on the lookout for a like we're closer to the release of Nirvana's nevermind than that was to the moon land. Like he's always sending a shit like that. We're just like fucking stop, bro. We know. I'm talking about fiber on the fucking podcast. We know we're old.

My knees are telling me every. morning. Every morning. Every joint is talking to me, bro. Like, it's crazy. I know I'm old. All right. Y'all brought up Yonis. Let's talk about the best player in basketball. Shout out to T. Windish, put these stats together. He's added a good game on top since then, but I just thought this stats summed up why I, and I think some others feel the way we do about how the MVP conversation has gone this year. Janice in his last 20 games, 30.6 points, 12.1 rebounds, 5.9 assists, 60% from 2, 37.7. percent from three. 19 and 1 in the last 20 games. Snatched that one seed. Isn't this a shit that's supposed to make us excited? Isn't this the shit we're supposed to be recognizing in the NBA that...

But analytics. Analytics, Garty. The analytics. I really don't want to turn into a thing with Yokic. Nuggets are the 1C2 and everything. But like what I said a couple weeks ago, whenever we talked about it, is like, this is the Janus era, correct? Like, that's how we will remember this.

period of time in the NBA. And so I'm just, I've gotten to watch a bunch of these bucks games. I love watching them play. I love everything about the way they play. And it's fun to watch that dude. And I love, like Tyler said, I love watching people whining about. He's just running into us or whatever. He took one step by someone at the fucking top of the key.

And one step later, he's looking at the fucking middle of the backboard, dunking the ball straight down, doesn't even touch the net. Like, that's not just running into you, bro. He's doing shit no one else in the world can do. And that's what got me so excited for the playoffs. I do think at this point for me, I think I don't see anyone beating the bucks four times out of seven if they're healthy. I just don't see it personally. Yeah.

I'm with you. I think that the, you know, Yokic had a lot of distance in them in the MVP race. But I think as of, you know, recently, you know, the bucks are 19 and one in their last 20. The Nuggets are on like a four game slide where, you know, they got had a 20 point loss of the Bulls. They lost to the fucking lottery bounce spurs. I think that the MVP race still, it still might have some lives to it. But, yeah, I mean, Janus is for sure the best player in the world.

I don't think that's debatable. But, you know, MVP isn't always about crowning the best player in the world all the time. So we'll see. But, yeah, I'm with you. The Bucks are for sure my pick to win at all this season. I think we are for sure in the Yonis era. And I'm very much looking forward to Yonis's postseason this year. Yeah, I think no team in the world is better than the Bucks.

Nobody's better than Yonis. You know what I'm saying? I think, like you said, I don't see anybody beat him in four times in a seven-game series. There's actually one other stat I didn't add on there, which is that, and I went and looked this up. He did, he, those stats were in 30 minutes a game. Yeah. He's so, right, right, right. He's so thinking about the playoffs that he is coming into every game, like, we need to cut the head off and kick the body down the fucking hill so I can go rest for the second half and be healthy for the playoffs. Like, that's his mentality every game right now. Is anybody even discussing him MVP?

Has anybody brought that? I haven't heard of him. I agree. I think Tyler's right. Like, I've definitely seen. But it's more so like the former players and stuff. I mean, you know, people can say they don't like bringing up the idea of racial bias and MVP voting all you want.

But it's pretty clear if you follow a lot of ex players, there's some feelings about it. Yeah, I mean, 19 and 1, 19 and 1, 30 points a game, how he's doing it, you know what I mean? NBA champion. NBA champion. Yeah, yeah. And not getting into, not really being in a discussion outside of ex players.

Like, I haven't really heard it. much. You know what I'm saying with a lot of the talking heads? You know, I think that's, I mean, that's proof in itself. This March, take your first shot at college hoops with Fandool Sportsbook and get 10 times your first bet amount in bonus bets up to $200. That's right. Just bet $20 on the bracket and you'll land $200 in bonus bets win or lose. That's $200. You can spend betting everything from the money line to point spreads to that 5-1-12 seed matchup you've been eyeing. Fellas, what are your bets you're looking at for this tournament, whether it's an early round game or who you think is going to win the whole thing?

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Did you see Tyler's face? Did you see Tyler's face? When you mentioned the man? He is actually disgusting. But go ahead. Go ahead. When Tyler makes that face, when Tyler makes that face,

I automatically lengthen an intro by five to ten seconds to let him inhale as much as he needs to. Because I know, and I should just point at Jackson like this is the clip. But Dan O'Lovsky, former quarterback ESPN guy, but just loves going on Twitter and revealing stuff about himself that he does not need to reveal. Reveal that he goes 30 times using his towel getting out of the shower between washing it, which if you shower once a day, which maybe he does not. I don't know. It means you're washing your towels once a month. Tyler, your thoughts and why would someone choose to reveal this information about themselves?

It just feels like this is kind of like a quarterly event where we get another glimpse into the wild world of Caucasian hygiene. They are full of surprises. You know, first they told us they didn't wash their legs. They did trickle down hygiene in the shower. Then you tell us 30 times with a towel before you goddamn throw it in the laundry. Bro, 30 times. Bro, that motherfucker is hopping out of the shower and into a petri dish. Like that motherfucker, that shit got so much bacteria on it.

It's probably sentient like Dr. Strange is cloak. Like, I am 30 times is absurd, bro. How? Bro, and you have to smell it. You're showering to be dirty again right after it. It makes no sense, bro. Like, I just don't understand it. And we all do nasty shit.

You know what I mean? I think that it's just, like, bro, like, who, but he, I don't, I think he doesn't even know this is nasty. He can't. He can't. There's no way you know, like, dude, 30 times is fucking insane to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can, I can, I can smell, I smell the towel when I read it.

You know what I mean? And it's like, we all do that shit. We just don't say it. This motherfucker is so nasty. Like what is nasty to him? What is actually the shit that he's not telling us? You know what I mean? Is it actually 60 times?

And he said, I'm going to turn it into 30 because to make it digestible to, you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Bro, like what is he really doing? You know what I'm saying? It is, bro, that is insane, bro. 30 times. I regret that when we had Mina on because she and Dan are close.

I regret that when we had Mina on, we didn't ask for some inside Dan Rolofsky breaking news. You know what I mean? Like, is he brushing his teeth with butter or something? Like, what's going on? Behind the scenes. Like John said, what isn't Dan Orlovsky sharing? What is he withholding, bro? We need the FBI to get in there, dog.

If this is what he's willing to share, you know what I mean? This man's a monster. In real life, it's crazy. Crazy. And the trickle-down hygiene, Tyler, have you trademarked that? That is beautiful. Republican hygiene. I love it.

we uh when we were on vacation last weekend char and i had a debate about what was what's the truest racial stereotype and the the that that's our marcher so someone do that as a march madness bracket go ahead and do your different regions our our championship game came down to white people's hygiene and then the permissiveness of white parents because it was a little kid on this fucking island who was not supervised for two seconds the entire time he was there just running up into people's lunches and shit on the beach.

Like someone control this little kid, bro. Please. Telling her dad what, you know, telling the dad like, no, we're doing this. It's just like,

and I both, she was looking at dad like, could you fucking say something to your kid right now? Is that normal? Is that really normal? White kids, white kids be parents, bro.

The first time I realized that white kids run their parents, I was like eight or nine. I had a white friend, you know, who I made friends in school. and I went to like, I was doing a sleepover at his place. And we were outside playing and we come back in, right?

And he comes in and he says to his mom, he says, mom, make me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and cut it in fours. And I'm just looking like, what the fuck just have? You ducked. Right? Yeah. Yeah, like, I was just taking a back. I was like, wow, this is insane.

But then I was like, hey, who am I to complain? You know, we are about to eat some peanut butter and jelly sandwich. This motherfucker ate all four of those pieces in my motherfucking face. Ain't all for me shit. Didn't share nothing with you? He didn't share shit. He was a wrong as fuck, dog. But no, that's fucked up on the mom's part because it's not the kid's responsibility to share them squares.

Why the fuck wouldn't she make to one another one for you? If I had it in my mind that we were going to share, I think that that is you can put some blame on the kid there too because I would share with my friend. I mean, my mom would have been mad at me if I didn't share with my friend. But the thing is, like, as a parent, I'm requiring that. I'm going to make sure that they're sharing. I'm not letting a kid go home With my child eating though But she was so rattled that her boss

She yelled at her, you know what I mean? She wasn't even thinking about She wasn't even thinking about Tyler. I'm trying to think of my white friends And how they operated I feel like when they got mad When they're getting grounded or some shit But like there was punishment involved

In the shit that they did I don't I never really saw a white person I guess like boss their parent around Like I think the dude's house I went to Oh I did was probably was probably Bryce but he was Italian so like his dad

give him a look and he was like you're never going to see it like an Italian or a Greek household what was the Twitter term the ethnic whites oh yeah this this was spicy whites the spicy white you're never going to see that

an Italian household but yeah man we go to my friend's house and it would just be like hey you know like it would be a sleepover like hey you guys make sure you go to go to bed by 10 like okay cool we're going to bed by 10 mom i want to we want to stay up and play video games all night like okay all right just you know be careful like what that's not really i mean that's not really bossy though i guess but it's like it's the tom make me peanut butter and jelly sandwich it's exactly what tyler said if he asked his mom for a peanut butter and jelly it's different it's the it's not

hey my friends over could we stay up and play video games it's telling your mom this is what we're doing that was what was like always sort of unbelievable to me because that was not my My mom was not, I wouldn't say my mom was like a harsh disciplinarian in any way. Like when I was in, my mom was letting me take mental health days from school in elementary school, bro. You know what I mean? Like she was, she was a, she was a, she was a player's coach, but I was never going to talk to her like, I'm dictating to you what's happening. You know what I mean? You asked before you took a, I, I don't know.

My mom was kind of strict, bro. I skipped school once and I asked her. You know what I'm like? I just, you know what I mean? Like, I think, well, there was, I mean, yeah, I skip more than once. I think my senior, the senior, I got senioritis and I was like, yo, mom, I'm not going, I don't want to go to the first period. Cool.

You know what I mean? Like, so, but yeah, I don't know, I didn't see a lot of people. I don't know. I didn't see a lot of people doing that shit, bro. I thought that was like, I saw it on TV and it was wild to me there, but no, man, I don't know. We have a, because where I grew up, too, like in the country. Yes, I was saying, we have a string of white people in a certain affluent neighborhood

of Long Beach, who the parents are notorious. for being the like, well, you could like smoke weed and drink here so that I know you're not getting into trouble. You know what I mean? I knew people that did that. I wasn't friends with them though. You know what I'm saying? Like they, my mom would not, she wouldn't, she wouldn't throw a house party when your

parents are gone for the weekend like a normal kid. Right, right, bro. My mom was like going to people's houses before, like she would go talk to the parent if I'm spending the night. And there was one time where she went to, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of my friends that I was cool with, we went to the parents' house and she was like,

you can come to the party, you're not spending the night. You know what I mean? Right. And I remember looking at the dad and the dad felt weird to me for some reason. My mom saw the same shit. And I didn't really think about that

until I got older. You know what I mean? But she was like, yeah, but yeah, my mom, yeah, she won't play none of that shit. That's a thing from parenting from my mom that I've definitely taken

is I don't, nobody watches my kids for five minutes without me looking them deep into their fucking eyes. Their soul, you feel me? Right. It's like, oh, you got a music teacher at school. Cool. Like, when can I come by and talk?

You know what I mean? Just, and not like on some, this is what we do with my kid, but just some like, I need you to know that this child is cared for. And if you do any fuck shit, there will be consequences. The third eye,

it has to clear that test, bro. And my nigger, family, I look at them the same to. Everybody. 100%. Everybody. Everybody. You know what I'm saying?

Hey, they got to be that way, nigga. But, hey, I'm looking at everybody the same way. You got to clear that, pass that test, you feel me? All right, let's talk about, we've been talking a little bit, I guess, about the two Americas. But Tyler, I just wanted your comment on two Americas, two Tom Joyner's as well. I did not know that. Bro, they tweeted out that Tom Joyner died. And I was like, oh, man, I'm going to have to have a difficult conversation on my mama today.

But it was a white Tom joiner. some dude who did some shit on like jaws who was like you know some shit there so yeah i mean i'll be the arp to that man but that'd be like really shitty when you know it gets suited out that you died and everyone's like who thank god you weren't the other guy damn tell you're tom joiner's granddaughter you're like wow my my grandpa like i knew he worked in hollywood but this tweet has got 4,000 quote tweets on it people must really be paying tribute to grandpa tom Nope.

And for the people who don't know, Tom Joyner, I don't think he has his radio show anymore, but he was a fucking staple in the black community. He had a morning radio show. Oh, oh, oh, it's the Tom Joyner, Morning Show. I hear that shit, and I go back to my mom driving me to school and middle school and shit, right? Like, it is nostalgia that just hits me in a really deep place. And it was a staple in so many black people's lives in this country. Bro, I remember growing up, we had, like, in the house we had in middle school,

there was like this old radio system that you turn it on and it would go in the different rooms and that's how my mom would wake me up like she would turn on the time joiner morning show instead of coming downstairs to be like wake up I slept in the basement she just turned on that radio

and I just knew it was time to get up I knew it was time to you know what I mean but dog yeah I didn't I didn't know there was another time joining but you rest of piece of that man I'm glad you know the one that we're familiar with is doing well though and also rest of peace of Bobby

Caldwell yesterday. You know what I didn't see that? Past yesterday. So yeah, man, rest of peace of that man, dude. Like, it was crazy. Like, I think we all realized he was white at the same time. We grew up on this man and then we got on Twitter and I think something dropped and we was like, the fuck? Who is this nigga?

You know what I'm saying? That ain't the Bobby that I grew up on, you know what I'm saying? Who's this? Bob Caldwell. Right. Who's this Robert? Who's this Robert? who's this Robert

that's you know what I'm saying like this is bullshit digger like but no no I think he even played it to the joke and shit so recipes to a real man we grew up on his music It was more than just a joke to him It was a legit marketing tactic where he didn't want

listeners to know he was white They said when he first When he sent his first single You know due for love to radio stations The cover was just a silhouette of him It wasn't a picture of it Yeah it was he sitting on a he was sitting on like a bench Or something on yeah

Yeah So Bobby Colwell he's up there with a with the Tina Marie's, the hauling notes, the Michael McDonald's, as far as, you know, our white play cousins out here in the music industry who black people love. Who's, is there something, Asia or something? Aida, like. Steely Dan, Asia.

Steeley Dan, I didn't know they was white either. You know what I mean? The name kind of gives that one. I mean, I didn't know the name. I just heard the song. And it was the one with like the Crimson Tide or some, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. But anyway.

What do you guys think? What was the last? white song that was that that is like as much a part of black music as it is of white music is bobby and bg's and shit that's the only people that i really i think like for the current generation of teenagers if you play party in the u s a around any group of kids of any race they all they all go absolutely fucking ape shit for it that's really the only one in like quite some time though that i could think of seeing like Because when we were in high school, it was like, especially in Southern California, at least, it was like everyone was listening to it.

Like everyone knew the No Doubt song. You know what I mean? Like there was a little more cross-pollination or whatever. But it doesn't really feel like that's the case recently, I guess. Yeah. I mean, MTV was like the great unifier across, you know, racial lines back than for our generation. Like, yeah, you know, black kids are rocking out to No Doubt and Nirvana and white kids were rocking out to fucking Dr. Dre and shit, you know, so. Yeah, we don't have MTV people.

People don't listen to the radio anymore, you know what I'm saying? So, like, we don't have people planting these things in front of you that you would not have access to. You get what the algorithm tells you you're getting. And you fucking like it. But yeah, RFP to Bobby Caldwell, RIP to the white Tom Joyner. Going to give some flowers to the Black Tom Joyner. We appreciate you. We love you.

He is a great philanthropist. He has put thousands of black kids through college. Like, he does so much good work, man. Shout to that, man. I think an artist that maybe is as endeared by white people as black people as black. people. Maybe is it is is it is is he is he. Is he, is he think he's more into by white people than black people?

He goes out there. I feel like that he's up there. I think I think I think he's I think he I mean he's he's more I mean he's a big artist but I guess he feels more niche. You know I mean he's not like you know Bobby that like like was you know as big and that during his time period. Um, but yeah like I think Frank is loved or beloved by you know what I'm saying. All right.

By blacks and whites. By the blacks and the whites. By the blacks and the whites. The blacks. Yeah. Frank is headlining Coach. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What does Zach say? Our Coachella correspondent, Jackson, is checked in to tell us that Frank Ocean is headlining Coachella. Our young. Our young, too.

He wouldn't know. Yeah. Yeah. Our youth. Jackson, are you a huge Coachella person? I can see that very clearly. I have been the last three years that it has existed, yes. I mean, there was a COVID year in the middle there,

but I've been to the last three that it's been apart of the day. You're at prime music festival age. I want no parts of that shit ever again in my life. You'll get here one day. Oh, my God. And we have something in the water right here in Virginia Beach, which is a phenomenal fucking festival, you know, headed by Farrell with all types of a delicious.

And I want no parts of that shit, dog. Bro, rolling loud happening in LA, I didn't know it. I just saw it on YouTube. I'm watching, like, you know, people perform on YouTube. I think my brother sent me a Cardi joint with him yelling over a great song. He ruined. Anyway, well, whatever. But he said, you know what I'm saying?

Cardi is, he's jumped the shark, nigga. Golly, come back to us. But anyway, like, duh, yeah, yeah. So I didn't even know they existed. And, bro, I went to the first Rolling Loud in Miami. You know what I mean? Like, bro, we would schedule our years for the music festival we were going to, Remember that shit?

Yes. Like that was like... We went to three South by Southwest festivals. I came out there for the... Bucu. For the festival that had Outcast performing. Right, right. We went to Buku and New Orleans.

You feel me? They had the motherfucking, um... I don't know if you came with this in my... To Made in America. But, nigga, we was... Bro, my broke ass was scrounging up chains. You know what I'm saying? To, in order to make it to festivals and shit.

And now just a thought of going to one makes my stomach hurt, bro. You know what I mean? All these people in this loud music? I don't want any parts of it. You feel me? Like, don't,

right, right, dog. I know I'm old as fuck because as bad as, as much as I'm looking forward to seeing Beyonce this summer, I am dreading like, you know, the fucking parking and then commuting out.

Oh my. Yeah. I think about that, bro, like, as soon as I'm like, damn, like,

how can we finagle getting out a little, I mean, I wouldn't mind missing a few songs just so I wouldn't be, spend another hour in a parking lot, you know what I'm saying? But like, bro, I'm listening to like Blue Mitchell and shit, bro. I'm listening to

straight jazz. I am old, bro. You know what I mean? I almost listen. I mean, I listen to nudity in the gym and shit. You feel me? You know what I mean? You listen to more young person music than any other old person I know. But I'm balancing it out. You know what I'm saying? I'm balancing it out with more jazz than I did at one point. You know what I mean?

Jamie Lee Curtis had that comment. That was like, why don't bands do matinees? She was like, I don't want to see Coldplay at 9 p.m. I'll go see co-play at one p.m. on Sunday. Like, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Good ass time. Perfect. Have that shit in a park two. Open air space for everybody.

Like 1 p.m. Park matinee. That will be fucking perfect. Bro, we, uh, it's a, it's a singer songwriter, Sean and I've been listening to since college who, uh, is going on tour for the first time since COVID. And he's officially acknowledged that we're all old now. He's playing at the will turn in the fall, but there's going to be seats. he's never like it's never been you know what I mean it's always been like he's been like a club guy where you show up and it's like everyone's standing around at the will turn or whatever but I texted Shar like in the middle of her workday and was like we're gonna be able to sit down

oh crazy hey one young nigga one young nigga who's tight is Jordan Ward though you also tap in with him Jordan Ward he's a he's he's kind of dull he's jazz dude what's he's he's not jazz It's like it's more R&B. It's more R&B. You know what I mean? Like it has a much more chill vibes, but he got some dope shit that the olds can get down to. You know what I mean? It can get with you.

You feel what I'm saying? Zach's, have you heard of Jordan Ward? I have not. Okay, okay. Man, I feel like, you know. Maybe I'm still. Maybe I still got it, boys. I'll have to check it out.

Maybe I still got it. All right, before we get out of here, really surprised at the show. strength of the reaction to the fiber clip that got uploaded to Twitter.com this week. But, you know, salute to all the Jenkins and Jones listeners who are trying to better their health. Young and old. Young and old. Because some young niggas was like, I'm tapping in, you feel me?

I do want to point out, this is how bad the American diet is when it comes to the food we actually should be eating. I mentioned I take five fiber pills four times a day, right? That's my regimen. That adds up to 28% of the fiber that you're supposed to have in your daily diet. so most of the, most of the world

is not wiping their ass after, or doesn't, is it required to? Right. You know, is their food's not like all process.

You know what I mean? Like, well, that's, I mean, it makes more sense you're thinking about, you know,

this place is still where the, the, you know, it's non-flushable toilets and shit like that. It's like, oh, okay,

well, they're just, yeah. But, but, uh, so we get fiber from like vegetables from, from,

like, nuts and like, is it bread too? Did we get fiber from bread? Like a little bit. There's actually a lot of fiber and popcorn, which is helpful for me because I'm a huge fan of empty carbohydrates. No, that's actually a healthy snack. Popcorn's a healthy snack.

They tell you, you know what I'm saying? If you're trying to lose weight, you want a little snack, get some popcorn. Yeah, but like leafy greens, celery, all that kind of shit. Like if it looks like it's got fibers in it, it's got fiber in it. Okay. If it looks fibrous, it's fibrous. Right, there we go. Anyway, all right.

that's it for this week we will remember we got the interview episode dropping Saturday with Langston Kerman so definitely check that out and then we will talk to y'all again on Monday Bye Bye