The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Jenkins and Jonez - Steve Nash Do Something Bro, Plus Bulls/Bucks, Embiid’s Shot, and the Pelicans???
Episode Date: April 21, 2022The guys discuss the rollercoaster Celtics/Nets game three, the Bulls taking it to the Bucks behind DeMar DeRozan, Joel Embiid’s shot to beat the Raptors, why the Pelicans might be able to steal... the series from the Suns, and…more. #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And Dragonfly Jones,
okay.
Hey, everybody.
I've been going.
We're up and out the booty today.
I'm being a movie.
I am
recorded coming to you live and direct
from the,
um,
the cloudy skies of Wenatchie,
Washington.
So the great state of Washington.
Yo,
I,
you all ever think of,
y'all ever think of how pissed off
Washington be,
you have to be when they,
whenever they tell people where they're from,
when they have they put like,
state of in front of that shit.
So people don't think they're from D.C.
Like everyone watching it, like, yes, I'm from the state of Washington.
I'm like, damn. That's a lot of shit you got to say when you just don't know him,
motherfucker. Like, it's a lot of syllables there, dog.
You know?
I tell my fucks.
I'm from VA.
That's two syllables, bro.
Clap, clap.
VA, you know what I'm saying?
Tyler's taking direct shots at me one minute into the pod.
We got to get you somehow, Jackson.
Yeah, are you a, I'm a state of Washington
introducer when you introduce stuff to people.
He says he probably says Seattle.
It's a West Coast
Yeah, yeah
From the West Coast people think it's
It's Washington State
That's what it is
I heard DMV
And didn't even think of the actual DMV
I thought of like
You know what I'm saying
The DC area
So like being from where we're from
Yeah I don't even
Yeah I hear Washington
I don't even think of Washington state
That's crazy
Jackson do you tell people
You're from Washington
Or you tell people you're from Seattle
If someone asked me
Where I'm like from
I would probably say Seattle
Yeah
I get that.
But I would say like a, and then I'd be like
put it like a suburb. Like I'm not from Seattle property.
It's a real interesting vibe. It seems like
the rest of the state doesn't fuck with Seattle at all.
Am I correct in thinking that?
No. I think where you're at.
It's like heavy,
it's like heavy red state vibes outside of Seattle in Washington.
Yeah. Go east of the cascades and the vibes are a little bit weird.
It's some Shelbyville, Springfield shit going on there.
Muffalo motherfuckers eat lemons off the limit tree
just fuckering their face on that Seattle out there is shit.
Hey Vinnie's been trolling the fuck out of people out here too
Because he keeps like intentionally doing the like
Oh that's so cool that you live in Washington DC
He's done that like six times
That is great
I love Vinnie
Your kids are literally perfect
I'm jealous
Oh man
Crazy funny
All right let's talk about the Celtics Nets game to
Holy shit
I was expecting a lot of things
I was not expecting Kevin Durant to be 0 of 10 from the field in the second half.
Kyrie to be 4 of 13 in the game.
KD to be 4 of 17 in the game.
I was not expecting the Nets to obtain and blow a 17 point lead.
And I was, well, I was expecting Steve Nash to not do much coaching, I guess.
But I did not see the Celtics going up 2.0 in this way.
What did you guys think of the game, Tyler?
Wow.
That's a lot of shit going on.
But yeah, that is a lot.
I also saw that Kyrie and KD were a combined one for 17 in the second half, too.
I saw that sad.
So add that to the spreadsheet.
But I don't know.
I'm not going to eulogize them going down 02 when they started a series on the rogue.
You know, the Homes is supposed to go up to O.
But I'm just, there's nothing there to inspire me to think that that BK wins this series.
It's, you know, like John, you've always been,
bro, it's Katie and Karee.
They're going to win it all.
That's all you need.
You know, just roll it out to them.
And I've always told you defense and coaching is where they're lacking.
And that's what we're seeing in this series.
We're seeing them getting out defended.
We're seeing them getting shut down on the defense been.
We're seeing EMEA run fucking laps around Nash.
I always thought that was this team's Achilles Hill.
And I just think that that's how this season is going to end.
I think it probably goes to five.
I will be shocked if it goes to six, though.
That's where I'm at right now.
I wouldn't say, I mean, Steve Nash, you know, like, I think get Katie the fuck away from
that man, please, as far away as possible from fucking Katie.
You know, we already miss-
Get a coach who gives KD some good looks.
What the fuck?
You know what I mean?
We've already missed a year of Katie's career.
But I'm just saying, like, I don't, I think the difference is just, dude, like, Katie
hasn't had a single good moment in this fucking series.
He's got his jumper blocked twice.
twice in two games.
I never seen his jumper block before that at all.
The 40-minute fucking games,
all those 40-plus-minute games he was playing for the last two months have added up.
So I think the difference, yes,
he's Nash getting out coaching all that shit,
but the difference is really,
Katie has no fucking legs.
He is tired.
He can't even handle the fucking ball.
I have never seen him lose his handle so much on just basic defense,
you know, a slight defensive pressure.
And then he has to go on the other end and guard Tatum?
You know what I'm saying?
But does that not come back to Nash?
So does that not come back to Nash running him ragged regular season?
Does that not come back to Nash, finding him open looks and his scheming?
Does that not come back to Nash, though?
Yes, I'm saying that, yes, it does.
But what I'm saying is with Katie, like if he was just KD, they'd be fine.
But he can't be KD because of what the fuck has happened months prior just for him to make the damn play hand.
And now, like I said, he's guarding a god on one end.
and on the defensive end, he's playing the best defense in the league.
And they're beating the shit out of him.
Well, that's what I want to zero in on.
We do not typically give advice to NBA players or coaches on this podcast,
but here is some advice for Steve Nash.
When your best player and one of the best basketball players in history gives a press conference and says,
they're really beating me up, they're putting two and three guys on me every play,
they're hitting me, they're being really physical with me, they're making it hard on me.
I got to figure it out.
Guess what?
it's actually not his job
to figure it out. It is your job
to figure it out. That is him saying,
bro, help me. What the fuck?
That's basically what that is. And so
here's my advice. Steve Nash
goes up on the press conference
and says the same thing. They're being really physical
with him. They're really beating him.
That's not your job.
Your job is to do what every NBA coach
since Phil Jackson, who has coached
the superstar who's getting beat up during the
playoffs, go up on that
table and say,
this is shameful the way the NBA is letting one of the greatest stars in history be treated.
They're letting Boston mug this man.
I've never seen a star player get this treatment.
That's what like that's what, like that's what do something, bro.
If you can't do something during the game, do something like, yes, do something at the press conference.
But like this is basic shit.
You can't just sit there and go like look at your assistant is like, damn, they're really beating the shit out of KD tonight.
This is crazy.
you are the coach.
You got to do something.
Yeah.
And bro, he's out there talking about
this is a new team.
We haven't had these types of challenges before.
Like, God damn.
You are handling this the worst possible fucking way possible.
You sound like a Christian summer camp counselor
with these answers.
You give it out right now.
This shit ain't going to cut it, man.
You go get your ass fired, dog.
Like, I don't, it's just, I don't know.
It's not something I shocked up because I knew
that this is the way shit was going to go
with this guy from the moment.
They hired him.
You need coaching to win in the playoffs.
And Nash is not a fucking coach.
And we're seeing a play out right now.
But like I said, I'm not eulogizing them.
They're down 02 to a team, you know, that they played on the road.
That's how the series is supposed to go after two games.
So we'll see.
Have you all ever seen KD this bad, though?
No.
Not a back-to-back playoff games.
The second half today is the first time in his career, regular season or playoffs.
he's taken 10 shots in a half and not made a bucket.
It's never happened before in his career.
But when you,
I remember at one point in game one,
I was like,
and knowing who Katie is,
I was like,
get the fuck out the way, Katie.
You're looking like dead.
Wait,
let Kyrie do his thing.
I have never thought that, okay?
And then I'm watching this,
I'm watching this second half.
And I'm like,
he has a couple really good looks.
And I was hoping they'd go in.
You don't think,
think like that when you,
you see the Katie play.
He had nothing.
And I mean, we looked at the last series
when they lost to the books.
You know, what happened was he played Katie too much.
By the end of it, Katie was fucking cooked.
He's done the same fucking thing.
You know?
Also, man, get Simmons off the fucking bitch.
Put on some fucking clothes.
I don't give a fuck if you ready or not.
Bro, just stand in front of a Tatum or something, gee.
We need something.
I don't, like, just stand there and wave your arms.
Maybe six?
Right, right, right.
Use that 7-4 fucking wingspan for something,
motherfucker other than fucking passing waters down the damn bench.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's, it's, it's, I, like Tyler said,
I don't see them doing anything more than six, bro.
And if they get to six, that'll be shocking.
I mean, they can fuck around and get swept around this thing
the way I'm looking at it.
Like, those Celtics look into me,
like based on what we've seen with the Sixers
and the bucks getting beat and the sun's hurt right now,
So this one, probably one of the top two, three teams, like, you know,
in his playoffs right now.
And I would say it's not three.
Jackson, do you want to hop on?
Is there anything we're missing?
Anything we're missing, Jackson, from a Celtics fan's perspective?
Yeah, we're missing Jackson pulling.
I don't know.
I'm kind of, I'm a little bit dizzy from what John just said.
Think about it, though.
I mean, real, Jackson, it's like, who would you?
The heat look great, but they're playing a bum ass.
squad, playing Atlanta
squad with Trey Young doing nothing.
You know what I'm saying? Like, dude.
I mean, I think with Middleton's injury,
you'd probably say that Celtics
are the favorite to come out of the east, at least.
Who's beating him out the west?
I mean,
they're saying Booker might be back in like a week.
But I'm sure your injury is a lingering injury.
So he's not going to be healthy until the summer.
That's probably true.
I still think the sons with 75% of Booker
would be favorites over the
Celtics. And I think the Warriors
look fucking dynamite right now. And they'd be
famous up for the Celtics. I forgot about the Warriors. I think the
Warriors is probably the best team. But I think the Celtics
are probably third considering Middleton's
injury and Philly.
I mean, they're up three oh, but they don't look particularly
good to me. Well, so let's talk about that
that Bulls Buck's series. The Bulls
win won in Milwaukee,
DeMar, motherfucking de Rosen, with the career
playoff high of 41 points.
He was with Janice as his
primary defender, eight of nine for 16 points tonight.
Shit.
That shit was special.
I mean, how are we defining primary defender?
Because I don't think I ever saw, you know, Janus went out to the top of the key and
locking on, on, Demar, like, after like.
Oh, no, he hit him from the elbow a couple of times, bro.
I mean, and one of them was up over, up over the seven, you know, up over that seven foot
wingspan or whatever.
I mean, he, no, he cooked him, bro.
He was cooking them bad enough where they put that.
nigga on Caruso.
They said, go away.
Take your ass over there to the white man.
Okay.
You know, like, one of the best two-way players we've ever fucking seen.
Get away from tomorrow.
He's fucking baking you.
You know what I'm saying?
And good for tomorrow.
What's hard to see is DeRosen and Caruso, who should be fucking Lakers, if anybody had any
sense, playing this well, beating the fucking bucks.
You know what I'm saying?
And the small things that Caruso does are so important.
for winning fucking teams.
But yeah, like, yeah,
De Rosen,
happy for him, great night.
Yeah, like you said,
the little shit he does.
Like, he had the offensive rebound
that locked the game up, basically.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah, and,
and the fucking charge, he took on,
Yonnas, just to add insult to injury.
Like, reps are, you know,
just pulling that shit out.
Like, final minutes, like,
yeah, we're calling this game,
you know, the right way.
If that was a one possession game,
they would not have left that shit,
you know, been on fucking charge,
but either way.
Yeah.
And then middle,
he was he got he hit a couple shots and then you know caruso gets on him and draws a charge you know what
it's it's the little shit like that you know what i mean and middleton bro he had what he took three shots
in the first half like not made three shots took three shots the fucking bucks can't win when
middleton playing mid as fuck you know what i'm saying like i'm saying like i'm doing he goes out of the
game he goes out of the game and bud says after the game he has an mcl sprain so they're going to get
the MRI tomorrow and see what the severity
is, but the Bucks went from
I mean, this is what I love about the playoffs,
so not the injuries, obviously, but
like, because injuries, you know, it's always a
storyline and it always sucks, but
we talked about it before the playoffs started,
like, you could draw up how this shit's
going to go six different ways, and any
one of those ways you could convince me is like
the obvious thing, I thought the
bucks looked like a fucking lock.
And honestly, even after game one, they looked a little
shaky, but you're like,
yeah, but you know, they didn't play that well
and they still won,
like championship teams do that sometimes.
And now after this game,
they don't play that well,
that little adjustment that Billy Donovan made
putting Caruso on Janus,
right when Janus went into takeover mode,
and he just knew,
okay, he's in the part of the game
where he's going to the rack every time,
and he switched Caruso onto him,
and he couldn't get his dribble going.
I mean, it's just like little stuff like that,
totally flips these series
and makes you feel like the big narrative
of what the next two months is going to look like.
It totally disappears.
And now you're looking at this shit like, damn, it's three or four different teams that I wasn't even thinking about that might be in the picture for this shit now.
That charge on Caruso, like, that's how, like, you really, do Caruso, what is like six, five, six four?
Maybe, you know what I'm saying?
Dude, John is may as well, may as well pick that man up and put him in the third row.
Like, you know, he, I mean, insane.
But anyway, yeah.
Yeah, it's, it's, you know, your point is, yeah, it's crazy to see, like, we all have an idea coming in and, and nobody has a fucking clue.
Right. Caruso Black Brooke Lopez tonight, too, by the way.
That's one of the funniest shit's ever.
That's a cold ball-headed, nigger man. That's a cold ball-haired ass nigga, bro.
A cold ball-haired.
That's what cold ball hit a motherfucker.
I tell you, man.
The man's be big as fuck, too.
Right, man.
He's just be wide on this shit.
I'm just like a goddamn turban out this motherfucker.
He got that second head.
You know how motherfuckers had a joint at the front and that motherfucker
and getting fat in the back?
Yeah, yeah.
And then at the back it got like another curb like we ain't done yet.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to follow us down this road.
That man head head head.
You like a motherfucker, bud.
Better like a mom of us.
All types of tics of cradies in their motherfucker.
You know what that caruso, nigga.
You know what the hair.
Oh, nigga, the one with the head.
They were old, the nigga with the head.
The head-ass motherfucker
with the head man.
All that goddamn head-in-that big-ass headband.
How the back of your headway that much, though?
I'm surprised to keep that motherfucker forward,
goddamn.
You got that double-haired ass nigga there.
Anyway.
There was a black kid in Long Beach who
played high school hoops, who I would not name,
who had that head that got whiter
over top of the headband.
And the kids on the kids
the kids on an opposing team started calling him a Thomas Edison ass.
Oh, like, bull ass.
You know when history coming to it.
Thomas Edison is nuts.
We would call him motherfuckers like that bullethead because they always had that
motherfucker up in a hook back here, digger.
Get your bullet head the fucking one.
Oh, fuck.
They got to have handsome Squidward head out of this.
Yeah.
I mean, I should be looking strong.
Bro, we had a chick,
the homies, that was my
niggie, bro. But she would pull
that motherfuckeracan back and had that bun
and was sitting right on the end of the bullet, that bun
was. Oh, Monique.
I hope she's doing well.
Oh, bullethead. I hope
she's all right.
Oh, bullethead. I hope she's doing good for her somebody.
I hope old old bullhead
that made good, I'll tell you.
bro i love being a country nigga bro you only hear shit like bullethead if i would go back and say
bullethead everybody would know exactly who the fuck i was talking about she was monique but she was
really bullethead nigger i could say monique and niggas be like who if i said bullethead
monique who you know bullethead oh yeah bullethead oh yeah i would change me a country for shit
Let's talk Sixers, Raptors.
This is like the perfect encapsulation of what basketball fandom is like.
At the end of regulation, they drew up a play for Joel M.B. to shoot a three.
He missed it. Everyone's talking about Doc Rivers is the worst coach ever.
They run a similar play at the end of overtime.
He makes it and everyone's going, that's why MB should be the MVP.
first of all unbelievably difficult shot to be moving to your left turn and and throw it up with the
right and it was fucking pure too it is not fair it is not fair for a dude that size to have that
move it be's ridiculous man he's fucking absurd dude
seven seven foot 280 coming off a fucking screen fading for the fucking game cash money that's
we're seeing in 2022.
And I tweeted this.
And motherfuckers want to talk about Coosie?
Motherfuckers want to talk about a nigga that never even shot 40% one time in their
fucking career.
Average 18 off of 19 fucking shots.
This is who you fucking right, bro.
A fucking bum.
We're watching literal aliens do alien shit.
And you want to tell me he wasn't Bob Coosy.
Get that fucking ghoul off television.
That ghoul.
That demon.
Get that fucking devil
The fuck off television
Get that blue-eyed devil
To fuck away from me
Get that banshee off my teeth
Get that fucking jack
Who the fuck out of my face
That bitch-ass
motherfucker there
What about Kuzi?
What about Kuzzi?
Even JJ Reddick
motherfucker
Bitch, they don't like
Bitch, JJ looked like he wanted
to put his hands on him,
nigga.
that motherfucker was saying that wild shit.
Bro. This motherfucker went
so, went so wild
with it that the best three-point shooter
in Duke history was like,
this shit is getting too white right now.
Like, think
about that shit. This is where
I leave. This is where
I draw the line.
But, you know, I want to make it very,
very clear. The
coozy slander is not necessarily
slander of that era because I think
plenty of us think that there's a lot of, you know,
legends from that era who would thrive at the very
least in today's league, you know what I mean? Bill Russell, Will Chamberlain,
Elton Baylor, Big O, Jerry West. Like, we for sure think
they would get money in today's league. Bob Coosie, though?
No. The motherfucker might as well to cut off his left arm.
He didn't even think about using that shit in games.
That motherfucker dribble like he played the piano, like, you know?
Like there was no movement
That motherfucker
Elbow got on his hip
And stayed at a 90 degree
You know, fucking motion of
Of movement
For the whole fucking
For 11 rings or whatever to fuck
But it's, bro, it's crazy
And hit him
He changed the game
You know what changed the game
Allowing niggers to play
That's what changed the game
Motherfucker
Allowing more than two black people
On a fucking team, bro
That's what changed
fucking game and what's wild if you want to attach yourself to a white man you're in boston you got
bird right there i'd be lying if i said that motherfucker wasn't a dog you feel me he would be
killing in today's league you want to attach yourself to this fucking five-eight fucking dude that was
teaching that drive driving classes before he walked into the league when motherfuckers say it was
firemen's and plumbers in that bitch it really was because i was a second job there
eight motherfucking teams and there was
eight motherfuckers at the goddamn games
nigger, you fucking kidding me? Two
years before fucking Coosie came into the league
the fucking uh,
Globetrotters beat the NBA
fucking champions that year.
You feel me? Bro, that wasn't
basketball bitch? You know,
I hate that shit. That shit,
oh, anyway, that shit gets out of my skin.
The Globe
Redding, welcome to the resistance.
Yeah.
Hold on, but the Globetrotters beat the NBA
championship.
I think it was like, it was like, I think he came in the league like 61, 62,
but it was like 58, 59 around that time when like the Globetrotters played the NBA
champions and beat their ass.
It was around that time.
Look that shit up, gee.
Dude, Wilk Chambers is first year.
Wilk Chamberlain's first year he played for the Globetrotters.
Yeah.
Okay.
We have a Wikipedia article.
1948, Globetrotters Lakers game.
When it's against the Minneapolis Lakers,
took place two years before basketball was desegregated,
the Globe Trotters won 16.
61 to 59 at the buzzer.
And there was probably like a grandma in a clown outfit
who had that game winning bucket
on the globe charters.
But like there was a 72-year-old black woman out there
better than 20, 27-year-old white man.
You know what I mean?
So, God damn.
I never knew that.
I got to do some more research around that shit.
That's interesting as fuck.
I was all but I didn't wait about that game.
Hell yeah.
Wait, wait.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I'm like skimming the message of Wikipedia article.
the game winning shot.
I don't know who these players are.
But with only a seconds left,
is a direct quote from the Wikipedia article.
Haynes flipped the ball to Irmer Robinson.
Irma!
Hey, that might be a 70.
Oh, I thought I would say.
Okay, I was by saying that.
If it was Irma, that was legit,
might have been a 17-year-old grandma.
Who is stationed 30 feet from the basket,
flexing his knees and holding the ball to his chest,
Robinson let fly the one-handed shot.
A one-handed.
hundreds of times a day
on his childhood courts in San Diego.
The best one-handed game-winning buzzer beater from 30 feet.
The best NBA team got beat on a trick shot is what I'm reading right there.
By fucking Barnum and Bailey, bro.
Yeah.
The fuck.
Bro, I'm telling you, bro.
If you look at the history, like, it was absolute trash, bro.
I think Globetrotters games would have like 25,000 people,
which back then was like a fucking, might as well be in a million people in one place.
That is a world.
World's Fair in 19-
fucking 37.
And the games, like the, like,
the Celtics games would have like
800 people in that motherfucker.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm dead-ass serious when I'm,
when I say Coosie was a teaching
driving classes prior
to going to the fucking league.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, I think what's crazy is
you mentioned the pivot for JJ
Reddick.
I mean, this man was Jackal Jackal Reddick in college,
bro.
Did you like, I was a dude fan.
And I was like,
this nigga overrated.
You know what I'm saying?
Who liked bad, who
chose dude because of Bobby Hurley
was like, JJ Reddick ain't it.
You know what I'm saying? Like, and
this mother went from that.
So I was like, he's overrated. He could have
two, three years in the league. He went from
that to the dude now.
You know what I'm saying? He's one of my favorite
media. He's one of my favorite media
personalities in any sport.
Like I, so, and you were so right.
You're so right.
He clearly.
I mean, so the dude, mad dog
Russo, the dude that he was arguing
with who said, Coozy changed the game.
He's like a coozy stand. He says that shit
all the fucking time. And I guarantee you,
JJ Reddick filed some coozy slander facts
away in the back of his fucking head.
Because he had that. He had that
because he hit him immediately with
how many seasons did he shoot 40%
or higher? He had that immediately.
He was like zero.
Roasted his ass.
I think the highest he ever shot was 37% from the field.
Years when he shot 33 fucking percent.
This is the mother fucking changed the game.
Get the fuck out of here.
I don't see no coosie and what's what we see today.
You know what I'm saying?
We saw Embedie do.
I ain't seen no coosie there.
You feel me, fuck out of here.
Yeah, let's talk a little bit more about the Sixers' Raps game.
So the Sixers are now up 3-0.
I don't know that I think they particularly look that good,
but they are up 3-0.
Does Doc Rivers have it in him to blow a 3-0 lead?
I feel like they're going to win the series.
Nah.
He ain't blowing this one.
Nah.
You see it, Tyler?
No.
I mean, but if there was ever wanted to happen?
I feel like,
I feel like if Doc holds this job,
he'll never coach again in the league.
And I feel like if this,
if there is ever a way for Doc Rivers to go out,
if there is ever a way for Dr. Rivers' curtain to call to happen,
it's blowing 3-0.
But no, but I don't think it's going to happen now.
I don't. You're supposed to win games like this,
especially at home when you're going up against what looks like the better team.
You've got to win games you're supposed to win as simple and as fucking basic as that shit sounds.
You can't let games like this get away from you.
How good is Maxie, though?
He's ridiculously good.
I did not come out of Kentucky.
I did not see this for him.
He's like, is this a, is it?
I don't even think this is a hot take anymore where I say he should be that team's primary ball handler.
or fuck Hardin.
Like Hardin got to get in where he fits in right now until he figures some shit out.
I mean, well, go ahead.
I was just going to say the other wrinkle, I'm getting away from basketball, but the other
wrinkle was, did you see the clip of Drake and Embed after the game?
I heard.
I didn't see it, though.
I didn't see it.
Just full on.
He's got, Drake's got a new big brother.
You saw that twinkle in his eye?
You saw that dick imprint right in his eye?
his fucking iris.
That big Nigerian
cock and print right there
in his fucking people.
Cameroonian
dick, sir, I'll have you know.
My apologies.
Cameroonian and cock.
It's just
it's such classic Drake
because in beads trying to shit talk him.
He's like, I'm coming back for the sweep too.
And Drake's like, I'll be right here.
He's like, I'll be watching.
With my good shoes on.
With my heart bottoms.
This motherfucker.
Drake needs a mentor, bro.
Drake needs a fucking boys and girls club.
He needs a big brother.
I'll be right here.
That motherfucker is a human Dawson's Creek episode, dog.
Like, God.
I'll be right here.
What the fuck is that, man?
He's every in-bay players.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I'm bringing Drake with me.
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you know by far to me and obviously we we already mentioned books injury but of all of the
crazy games and it's been a great playoff so far the one that's
by far the most shocking to me is
the Pelicans getting a split
in Phoenix.
And I know Book got hurt, but the Pelicans
were up when he got hurt too.
I mean, they earned a 1-1 split
with Book being out.
We'll see. I mean, I don't necessarily think
that Pelicans are going to win, but
they're playing game three to go up
2-1 at home. Like, that's
fucking crazy to me. And that
Pelicans team has really arrived early,
man. I did not think they were,
you guys talked about in a previous show.
CJ get so much credit, you know, for we're really seeing what he can do out there, you know, as the as the front, front veteran guy.
But fuck, I did not see this shit being a one-one.
I thought this was like, I was barely going to bother to watch this series.
B.I.
You've been peeping that?
You've been peeping B.I. in that series?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
37 last thing.
Sheesh.
What I will say is like, you know, it was when it took them 30.
30 points from Booker in the first half to be up five going in a half.
You know what I'm saying?
And when Booker was out, like, they got their ass cooked.
And Booker not being there for these two games.
And the way they're playing, you know, starting off in the season, they were like,
the fact that they even made the playing was wild to us.
They started off like three and fucking 16 or some shit.
There are a totally different team from that, you know what I'm saying?
from that team that we saw early in the season.
With CJ in there, B.I. looking great.
You feel me?
Like, I just, I could see them without Booker,
2, 2, 3-1, maybe.
Like, Booker may come back,
and shit may not be sweet, bro.
And with Booker, they could come back from that deficit.
But I don't know, G.
It's blood in the water right now.
It's blood.
The Suns might not make it out this series.
The Suns might not make it out.
this series. If you're a championship
aspirational team, you
really don't win championships if you sweat
this much in the first round from what we've seen historically.
You know what I mean? Like, if you sweat this much in the first round,
as we think it might go with Bookout,
like, you know, teams that they see
the fucking, you know, the weaknesses in your arm
or they know what to attack, and you're probably out of there before you can
get to the finals or win the finals. So,
I don't know, this is, this is,
you know, of course, I hope Book can come back as soon as possible
at full strength, but
I don't know, man.
It's something.
Because the first game, the Pels were making them sweat a bit too.
Like, they went down big early and then they came back like late than third before, you know, Phoenix pulled away.
Chris Paul had to go God mode in the fourth.
Yeah.
Chris Paul had to go like all-time great point guard mode in the fourth to pull that shit also.
I don't know, man.
We'll see.
And he's missing at least two games, right?
It could be more also that's a lingering injury.
And it's a hammy.
And it's a hammy.
It's not going to be healthy again until the season's over.
You know what I'm saying?
Like fully healthy.
That's the other thing that I wanted to say about Chris Paul because, you know,
he played that fourth quarter in game one was like a perfect quarter of basketball, basically.
And then he just, you know, he just didn't really have it in game two.
And I heard what Chuck said on Inside afterwards, I thought was a really interesting point where he said,
you know, as someone who played late into into my age, I had a long career,
what I'll tell you is, and I thought about this after game one, because, you know,
Chuck's a big son's fan.
Like he's rooting for the sons right now.
He said the difference is if you're all time great,
you still have it when you're old,
but you don't have it the next night or the night after that.
And he said, you know, when I got deep into my career,
if I had, if I went, if I turned it all the way up,
I put the gas pedal all the way down,
they would take two or three games sometimes
before I really felt bouncy and like I had it again.
And I think that I do think we saw that from Chris Paul.
And especially if books missing time,
they can't have him at
I'm old and I can do it every two or three games
you know what I mean?
They just,
I don't think that their margin of victory.
That margin of victory got real fucking small
with that Devin Booker injury.
So we'll see what happens.
But look, we and everyone else is like
Sons, Bucks rematch.
And Tyler, you just said it.
The teams in the finals don't usually sweat that much.
And both those teams are sweaty as fuck right now.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I think that's, I mean, the Bucks is,
go ahead, go ahead.
The books are playing a better team.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, the sons are the number one team in the fucking West.
They're playing the worst team in the playoffs.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, they had the worst record coming into the playoffs.
And there's been two good games.
You know what I'm saying?
And even with book there, like you said,
it would have been a hard fought win if they, you know,
if they were to play if he was a finish out game too.
So just, just, you know, two days ago,
we were like, you know, the sons will cook the warriors
if they played the Warriors.
You know what I'm saying?
But it'd be a good series.
Well, I mean, that's how quick the playoffs changed like you were saying,
like you were saying, Mike.
You know what I mean?
That's how quick the shit changes.
And what I love about it because we,
and I think you almost have to lean into the overreactions.
It could be just as much the other direction,
you know, we're recording it in a couple of days.
Like it's just every game is so important.
That's what makes the shit so fun.
I don't think that that's it for basketball.
We do have a couple of this and that items.
Was there anything you guys want to say about any of the other series?
I think we've talked enough basketball.
Enough of the shoes.
I would also like to say that
in regards to the Bob Coosie Slander,
this man said Donald Trump
was the most extraordinary president of his life,
so do not feel bad about us piling on this man.
We can move on to the next.
Robert Coosie said this?
Yes.
Bro, didn't he get like a medal of honor.
He said, I'm honored to have received this
from the most extraordinary president of my life.
So yeah.
Wow, he really is all fucking right.
There you go.
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's
Look at my
Got him
Got him
Gotty
Yes sir
Okay
Now for a very special
Cock talk
segment
Oh wow
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Let's talk about
Snickers bars
Dick Vane
Talk
Dick Vane cock talk
Cocktop, bullet point
underscore A, bullet point.
Dick Bain Snickers talk.
Yes.
Snickers came out
today with a
statement that said, despite the
pernicious rumor that had been
circulating on Twitter.
I love that word.
The vein will remain.
They just searched for the most penis
similar ass at
you know, verb right there.
So, you know what I mean?
Eliteration. Can we call it that?
But someone had started
Someone had just, you know, said they're getting rid of the vein, and they posted a photoshop picture of a perfectly smooth Snickers bar, which I have to agree was quite disturbing.
It was unnerving as fuck.
I'm used to my Snickers looking like dicks, man.
We just have to call it what it is, bro.
If you gave me a Snickers that didn't have the dick vein in it, I am wondering what the fuck is going on right now.
Tell me, no, no, seriously, you tell me, you aren't going to look at this motherfuckers.
like what the fuck is this and like put it down and wonder where they went wrong right with that one
how is it caramel traveling through it that's what i'm going to be wondering you know it's just
y'all are nasty you know i mean like i agree but the way we're talking about this is unnerving
tyler's so adamant about the dick vein they have normalized the dick vein i expect to see a
dick vein on the snickers you know what i don't know if it's normalized but yes something similar
to a dick vein needs to be on a Snickers.
A smooth Snickers, like you said, is a little unnerving.
You know what I mean?
I'd be aghast if I were to see a smooth Snickers.
If I can get theoretical, the Snickers as a candy bar should not work.
It is such a weird assortment of things.
Chocolate, nougat, caramel, and peanuts.
If I put those things in front of you next to each other, you would not think
let me squish these together and eat it
it will be one of the most iconic
candy bars of all time. It's a really
weird assortment of things and I
actually do think if you put it
in a perfect rectangle it almost
calls attention to how weird it is
whereas when it's you know
it's got the vein on top it looks
almost homemade
there might be something there with the dig vein
and chocolate bars.
Took just makes it feel like something that
arrived.
Yeah.
Tick's got
Quicks is more than big.
Twix is like red for your,
for your pleasure.
If we're keeping it honest,
if we're keeping it honest,
Twix actually looks like the other,
it doesn't look like a dick.
I never noticed that.
Yeah.
After you peel it back a bit of putting it,
you push it out.
Yeah.
I am way too high for any of this shit right now.
Jesus Christ, but yeah, it does.
And I'm tweaking.
I'm tweaking.
you're right, you right.
Let's, before we get to the last subject,
Jerry West today issued a press release
and did an interview with the LA Times
demanding an apology and a retraction
from winning time.
And I think he gave them a two weeks deadline.
They've got two weeks to apologize.
No way.
Which almost makes it seem more believable
that he was a dickhead.
That deadline is something that dickhead moved.
that winning time Jerry West would do
you know what I mean?
Do motherfuckers not have older brothers?
I just like,
you're really going to issue a press release
that says I'm offended by this?
I don't know, man.
Apologize to me.
I will never release a press release
telling a motherfucker to apologize.
If I've ever released in a press release,
it's like, see you in court.
I'm about to hit you for like millions of dollars.
Like that was the only time I would ever talk to
to the fucking.
press about anything.
See you in court.
Motherbugger, you're about to get sued.
That is so wild.
It's like, apologize now.
Or within 10 business days.
Who the ruck is this guy, man?
That motherfucker listen to an ultimatum on you, you know, feeling emotion about him.
Like, what the fuck, dog?
On a dramatization.
But what's crazy about this?
The show doesn't feel like a dramatization.
and I think people being so mad about it.
I've never seen a show
where more people that it was depicting
were mad about their depiction
and it made it seem more real.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes.
Usually if that happens, you think,
oh, they're fucking up.
I'm like, no.
This makes me feel like, for whatever reason,
it stamps the depictions that we're seeing in Winning Time.
Yeah, and I'll recognize that, like, for example,
I mean, the Jerry West and Kareem depictions,
I think absolutely are caricatures
for the sake of the show,
which is that I'm trying to watch
an entertaining TV show.
I'm not trying to watch it.
But it comes from a real place, though.
It comes from a real place, though.
And you also have like magic
basically saying the same stuff about,
you know, no one was consulted, et cetera, et cetera.
I have my own documentary coming out that shows
how much I love my family, blah, blah, blah.
Like someone just posted the clip he did
of the interview that came out after he announced
he had the virus where he was talking about all.
the shit he was doing.
It's like, I don't know, magic.
There's some truth in there, bro.
Bro, bro.
That man gave the LeBron, not two, not three, not four, not five about getting
ass speech.
You know what I'm saying?
About being player.
About dropping dick off.
He's like, shit, I don't know.
I might have three, four, five, six, seven.
And then he spliced a big ass magic smile here to hear, like, you know, I was getting all
types of ass out of hell, yeah.
You know, women have dreams.
And, you know, you want to make sure they're on the field.
him. I'm like, yeah, magic.
You met, but you, I mean, but you're magic.
Nigel was, the dick fairy out here, like, just dropping dick off.
Filling dreams.
Like, he was like, yo, I am the dick fairy.
How can you blame me?
Look at this smile.
You know what I'm saying?
Magic like a motherfucker.
You feel right?
The quote that's like, you can make the dick disappear.
Show me a magic trick, my nigga.
He, he.
He, he.
Right.
That drop a dick drop off.
You get dick, you get dick, you get dick, you get dick, you get dick.
Listen, man.
Magic was, magic was the fucking biggest star in L.A. in the 80s.
Like, what do we expect from that?
You know what I mean?
Is anyone surprised at him while in the way he did.
Exactly what a motherfucker name.
Magic was supposed to do.
who played for the Lakers in the fucking 80s, okay?
Yeah.
Lokey, I'm more shocked that he didn't come out of that bitch
with a cocaine addiction.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, he, he...
Good for you, magic.
Right, like, let's applaud him for that at least.
And fucking AC Green.
Don't get me starting that motherfucker.
How was he not fucking or not doing nothing in the 80s in L.A.
on the Showtime Lakers?
And this motherfucker is just going home at 7.30
every night.
not leaving the crib.
That motherfucker was fucking beating this dick like a speed bag,
you know he was going crazy
on that motherfucker at the crib, though.
Come on something.
You know what I'm saying?
He's human.
It is kind of wild how we know that
AC Green was a virgin though.
Like, what does that have to do with basketball?
Like his whole thing is like,
I played a whole lot of games in a row and I never
fuck.
That's me.
That's who I am.
Like, I'm the Iron Man.
And the Iron Man because I ain't never got this shit off.
I'm the most non-pussy-gitin' nigga you've ever made in your life, little.
The most durable non-pussy getting this motherfucker ever in you.
You ain't never seen a nigga not get pussy like me, motherfucker.
Will I play 384 games straight?
Yes.
Will I get asked?
No.
Next question.
Can I get a hell no?
A.C. Green really made it a whole idea.
around there being no caramel
moving through his Snickers bar
dick main. That's truly incredible.
And that's the show, guys. See you next time.
No, okay.
One piece of advice for Jerry West.
One piece of advice for Jerry West.
We've all been slandered.
You don't say, you don't get someone
to stop slandering you by talking about
how sad it makes you that you're being slandered.
What you do is,
you do an interview and say,
well, I hope Adam McKay is really happy
with this show. It cost him his best fucking
friend. I hope he's sleeping well at night, not talking to his bed. You're a mini, Mike. You're a
big old mini. But that's how you do it. If you feel like a dude's taking you out of his name,
I mean, don't, don't call the LA Times and say this is making me really sad. Like, throw some
I might have been an asshole, but at least I'm not a bitch. Yeah. Because, hey, that's some,
that was some whole ass shit that him did. That was some whole ass shit for sure. You know, I'm loyal to,
I'm loyal to the people unlike the person who made winning time who fucked over
his but like you know bring something back like that bro come on
he doesn't have the internet he doesn't know the rules
he's too old he's too old man um speaking of the passage of time
this is our last subject I had to get this in because this shit was cracking me up too
much John had a special right of passage
as a father today
bro it was the perfect fucking storm explain it please explain the scene for people who didn't see your tweet
okay so to end it and then i'll go backwards i had to shit with my daughter in my hands today okay
now let me explain how we got there it all started back in same record scratch you're probably
wondering this is this some goddamn this some goddamn quentin tarentino non-linear story
telling about a deuce getting dropped off. I'm invested, bro. No, but like, dog, okay, it's really
simple. My wife was out here giving a presentation. We working from the crib, right? Somi's teething.
She had been crying all fucking night. I had Mexican food the night before, and I had it late.
So it didn't quite get to digest like it should have prior. I think I went to bed like 40 minutes
after I ate. So I'm waking up, you know, the nanny gives me the shorty, like she wakes me up,
And I'm holding her.
I'm like, yo, something is blib-blop-blap-in-in-this motherfucker.
You feel me in my stomach?
That motherfucker was doing backflips.
I'm like, all right, we good, we good, though.
Cool, cool, cool, cool.
So, like, it came a point when I'm like trying to, like, okay, maybe somebody can go to sleep.
I'm trying to put her to sleep.
You know what I'm saying?
So I can put her down and go, shit.
I'm like, yo, I try to put her down.
She wasn't for it.
She's like, nah, nigger.
You're going to have to hold me, my je.
So I'm holding her like, yo.
I'm at a point right now.
I've got to make a decision.
Am I going to shit on myself?
I'm going to shit with my daughter in my head.
I can't leave her crying.
I'd rather give me a presentation at the fucking gig.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, I just managed to sit down.
Get that deuce off while holding so on me.
And what's wild, though, is when I tweeted it, how many people understood.
Some people were like, congratulations.
You're finally fucking here.
We've been waiting on you.
Welcome.
You're officially your fucking dad.
And that's what's wild to me.
And also, like you said, like, you're wondering, you know, you're probably wondering
how I got here.
I think father or parenthood is that, like, every 14 hours.
But literally, every other parent knows exactly how you got there.
You know what I'm saying?
It's so fucking wild.
But yeah, I had to take a shit with my baby in my hands today.
Almost made it 40 years, guys.
Almost made it.
Life happens.
Snucking it right before the cut off.
You know what I mean?
Special moments.
Magic memories.
Did you just, did you hear Reggie Miller telling you it was your Kodak moment as it was happening?
Your Kodak moment.
All right.
That's all the time we got.
That's all the show we got time for.
We'll be back on Monday.
I'm assuming, I think it's Monday, I think we're recording Sunday night, but thank you for watching basketball with us.
We're having fun.
Bye.
Bye, aye, aye, aye, aye.
