The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Jenkins and Jonez - The NBA Has A Refereeing Problem
Episode Date: January 30, 2023The guys discuss the Lakers being robbed by the refs over the weekend, the crazy NFL Championship games, the Joel Embiid/Kevin Hart photo, the Jaren Jackson Jr. block “scandal”, comedians doing we...ll with women, and more. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to Jenkins & Jones on the Volume Podcast Network.
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Jenkinson Jones hosted by my good friends Dragonfly Jones, aka Tyler.
Hey everybody. Have again.
Legerreau Jenkins, aka John.
What's that, Bubbles?
I'm Gartie B. A.k.a. Mike. And I have not.
Mother fucking Mike. Mother fucking Mike.
Mother fucking Mike.
I just realized I've been doing Tyler's name like four or five podcasts in a row because usually I wait until John is eating to do his name first to surprise him.
And he hasn't been eating for like two weeks while we're podcasting.
I'm eating after the pod.
I'm eating after the pod.
Wow.
Y'all saw that back and forth.
Y'all witnessed it.
We got the inside behind the scene scoop of John and his wife figuring out where they're eating, where they're eating brunch after the podcast.
John made a suggestion and Rother wasn't fucked with it,
even though she didn't have a suggestion.
But she was hungry, but didn't want what I wanted.
Of course.
It made me happy because it is like all of the,
all the prank shows or whatever where John is in his house with his wife,
but Tyler and I are in his earpiece.
So we heard him ask Ratha, what do you want for food?
and then I could see from his face that she didn't give a response.
And so I said, just I told him.
I said, John, just make a suggestion and see if she says yes or if she says she's hungry,
but not for that.
And then she said she was hungry, but not for that.
Not for that, of course.
Not for that of course.
All right.
Let me move on before we sow seeds of turmoil in Nichols household.
She don't give a fuck.
She doesn't guarantee that.
Some stereotypes are actually documentaries.
That's all.
That's all we say.
Let me read a tweet,
and I just want your guys' honest reaction to this tweet.
Like everyone else,
referees make mistakes.
We made one at the end of last night's game,
and that is gut-wrenching for us.
Shut the fuck-off.
This play will weigh heavily and cause sleepless nights
as we strive to be the best
referees we can be signed at official NBA refs.
That's the worst tweet of all time.
Bro, it was so fucking sappy and syrupy and over the top.
I thought they were trolling, dog.
I was like, there's no way these motherfuckers are serious, but I don't know, man.
Like, that had to be sarcasm.
Sleepless nights.
Niggas, shut the fuck up, man.
You know what I'm saying?
We don't need that.
We need you to stop abusing Brian.
And the thing is, bro, Brian ain't been getting calls for a while.
They act like this the first time the nigga didn't get his arms snatched out of his fucking socket.
You know what I'm saying?
In order to get the damn call, bro.
You said they've been rapping him like he's shack.
Like he's shack.
You know what I'm saying?
The man got to get his head twisted off his shoulders to get the goddamn free throw line.
It's sickening, bro.
You know what I mean?
I apologize for the last fucking five years, nigga.
The niggas a goat can't get a goddamn call.
he's fucking 186 years old, nigga.
You know what I mean?
This is abuse.
This is elderly abuse.
You know what I'm saying?
The man, you know why he was so frustrated?
Because he wanted to take his old ass home.
He put up 40 fucking points.
He's tired, nigga.
Dragging these fucking Lakers, nigga.
And you're going to make him play extra?
Motherfucker.
At least give him a chance to blow the fucking free throws.
God damn, bro.
Shit.
I was, I look, that's a tired man,
nigga.
I couldn't understand the athleticism and all the extra shit he does,
but I can understand tired, nigga.
I know tired.
That nigga's like, God, damn.
Have you all ever seen Braun react to anything the way he reacted to that non-call?
It was, it was the closest thing we saw to that fucking J.R. Smith brain fart in game one of the finals.
When Brown was just on a bench, like, like when he found out they had a time,
mouth that they didn't use.
He was like,
oh,
nigga.
Like when he had that moment,
and I felt him.
I felt him on that.
Fully spas, bro.
Looking at J.R.
Like, what the fuck?
The man was just like,
what the fucking,
bro, he's 38.
Playing on a team
that's under 500.
Genie and him
don't want to help the nigga.
The man getting slapped.
I heard the shit
from my living room
and the ref don't want to call the shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Tatum from the crib.
Lutter man.
Saw him in 17 like I love a man
That motherfucker all that didn't laughing
No he got away with motherfucking murder
In front of the national television, nigga
Murder
You know what I mean?
Only motherfuckers that didn't see
Were the goddamn refs
And they want to get on here
And the one rap
You know who sleepless bra, nigga
Who been dealing with this bullshit
From y'all fuck niggas man
Signed so-and-so
Signed fuck nigga
That's what y'all should have signed it as
We got
The bass line refs
The baseline ref could not have been
in a better position to see Jason Tatum
fouling Braun
than if he had actually been embedded in bronze skin.
You feel me?
He had to be Tatum or Brian
to have a better position.
He had to be one of them.
Nicker.
Nick, it's tough.
Bro.
Woo shit, man.
Get the, hey, get the refs.
Get the motherfucking.
Get the, get the, get the, uh, get the, uh, AI, man.
Get the motherfuck of the refs out of here, dog.
Jackson, shut the fuck up.
Jackson said,
He says he didn't see a foul though.
Shut the fuck up, Jackson.
Jackson, you're going to join in this elderly abuse, huh?
Is that what you are?
Are you an ageist?
You know what I mean?
I'm just a guy who sees wins and losses, okay?
I don't know.
I didn't see a foul.
Well, I'm a Lakers fan.
All I see is losses right now.
But I saw three or four in the last couple weeks that I'm not a complaint about the
refs-ass basketball fan.
But I'm tired of these last two minutes report.
Stop issuing these.
motherfuckers and stop issuing these apology tweets.
Just don't blow game changing calls.
Just do better.
Just do better, bro.
We're going to lose sleep.
I don't give a fuck if you sleeper or not.
You know what I'm saying?
Do better.
We don't need all that extra.
You know what I'm saying?
There's three sentences.
Do better, niggas.
There's three sentences in the tweet.
The first one is everyone makes mistakes.
The second is it was gut wrenching.
And the third one is it will weigh heavily and cause sleepless nights.
None of that does anything for anyone, dog.
Shut the fuck up.
Period.
Period.
Gut-riching.
Tyler, Tyler, do you, there has to be at least 49% troll in that tweet.
They gotta be.
There's no fucking way you serious with that fucking Henry David Thoreau-ass shit, man.
There's no fucking way.
I refuse to believe gut-riching and sleepless nights, man.
Get your goddamn Nathaniel haul-thaw-thaw-thaw-thout-air, out of here, dog.
I shed sleep a cold.
For a fortnight
Of a fortune night
Of a fortune
That shit is stupid
And I'm with you
I'm not a ref complainer
Because I am of the belief
That refs
That refs are equally
Terrible
Like if you're pissed about your team
Getting fucked over
Just give some time
They'll fuck the other team back over
Everybody has to deal
With the trashness of reps
You know what I mean
Yeah yeah
But with this shit
When a game is on the line
Bro and and you know
And you know that this is a team
That needs every motherfucker
fucking win that's shooting for the playing and you just miss that and fuck him over like that not i mean
and it's brine and it's brah bro i mean i look no one who's a serious basketball fan would make the
case that it doesn't matter who it is that's involved in a play like that we all have watched enough
basketball we understand the deal and john's right the dude doesn't get calls ham talked about it
after the game he said it's the craziest thing he's what he's about to become that he's like he's like
a week away from being the NBA's
all-time leading scorer.
Which if you count playoff games,
he's actually already at, which is what we should have been counting anyway.
But on the threshold of that,
he gets fouled going to the cup for what
should have been. And it hurt me
double as a Lakers fan because I'm always screaming
at him to go to the fucking rack.
Instead of settling for these long, legless,
tired-ass threes at the end of a game,
if we're down by one. And he went to the rack.
And he showed why he doesn't go to the rack
because he doesn't get the fucking call. He got hacked.
And somebody made a great point on Twitter
I don't forget who was though
You really think LeBron James
Butt-Naked
Bada break the fucking scoring record
Blew a fucking layup
Like that
Without
Bro
Under the rim
You should have called it off the street
Something had to have happened
There had to be an earthquake
Something
You know what I'm saying
For this motherfucker to blow a bunny
At the r-
What the fuck?
Bro
Going left
Nigger get out of here
bro, that's cash.
Unless he was,
arm was literally almost
snatched out of his goddamn socket.
It's crazy.
What did you,
did you,
did you,
what did you guys think
of Pat Bev running a camera
out onto the court?
It is a single greatest
more protest to a call
I have ever seen in my motherfucking life.
And he doesn't know how to use a camera.
The screen was probably black.
There was no picture on that shit.
He just,
he just wanted to troll that motherfucker
because he felt he was in fucking
world's funnest videos because
Because that's the only way you can fucking miss that.
You know, if everybody's getting punked out here.
Bro, after that motherfucker had that tip-in dunk.
Like, he was like, bro, this is like the greatest moment of my life.
I'm never going to do this shit again.
You know, fucking tip-in-duck to help lock a game up and then it gets stolen like that.
Like, he was like, bro.
Someone said it's his first dunk is some huge number of games, too.
I don't know if that's true or not.
But like, yeah, this is his first dunk in a couple years or something like that.
I didn't know what I'm.
I didn't know what I mean?
That's how long it's been.
You know what I mean?
Like, when the last time you seen stuff?
dumb. Not much.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah,
I thought it was someone else.
It took me a bit, you know what I mean?
I had to do the Zwinks
double blink or whatever like a cartoon character.
Pat Mab is like such a testament of how
of how you have to be the
elitest of the elitist to go
to the fucking NBA. Because this dude was
played Chicago ball putting up like
40 a game. And
we were talking about this dude like, bro, what does
the Pat Beth trade? Like he is untradable,
no one wants them. You know what I mean? Just ridiculous, bro. Yeah. All right. Tyler, do you watch
football on Sunday? Do you catch either of the games? Hell yeah. I got the, I watch some professional
American tackle football. Professional American tackle football. I just want to say, and this is a bitter
Mike G podcast, but as a Niners and a Lakers fans, I must have done something to piss somebody off
because we can't get a fucking call on the Lakers games. And then the Niners literally are down to
their fifth string fucking quarterback in the NFC championship.
game. Come on, bro.
Respectfully.
Yeah, that was that
motherfucking game, bro.
Like, I mean, what?
Y'all I won 12 straight before
this? Like, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you know.
With the third string quarterback in.
And then we got to the fourth string quarterback
in this game and he got a concussion.
I'll tell you this.
I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this.
I'll tell you this. As a guy who was a Washington
fan in my previous life,
I know that y'all love
how Trent Williams will be like, fuck it.
let's just fight.
You know,
after,
that was what I love the most about that dude,
you know,
when he was with my team.
That motherfucker would take a loss
and just be like,
time to go slap some motherfuckers.
Like,
I remember he slapped the shit out
of Josh Norman
after one of those games
just because it was the thing to do.
Like,
yeah,
that's my type of guy right there.
That's what you want your left tackle
to be like, bro.
That's a certain energy of football dudes
that I just vibe with and really appreciate.
And when Trent Williams got to like,
we're down by fucking how much,
with how much time left?
All right, bro.
I'm going to go
slap a motherfucker right quick
Grab someone by the face mask
shove his ass on the ground
You know what I mean
But you know fuck it
So the Eagles are going to the Super Bowl
And the Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl
John I know you didn't watch this game
So let me just paint the picture for you
Because you can only imagine
I do look at the
I'll like refresh the
Watch the highlights and shit
No no I'll refresh the scores
I watch the scores
Oh okay okay
You know what I'm saying
So I saw like how I was going
Let me describe the end of this game to you.
You can only imagine how the Midwest was going crazy for the chiefs beating the Bengals on this.
The Chiefs get the ball back with like 30 seconds left, tie game.
Everyone's injured.
All the O-Lyman for the Bengals are injured.
All the receivers are injured for the Chiefs.
It's just a total war of attrition football.
Mahomes is playing on a high ankle sprain.
Right.
And so it's just total war of attrition.
Like someone's got to make something happen to get to the Super Bowl, right?
Mahomes is running picks up a first down at what would have been a 60-yard field goal
and a Bengals player
He's two full steps out of bounds and a Bengals player shoves him in the back
Sends him crashing into a bench
I believe the Bengals player then stumbled and tore his ACL
On the play where he shoved Pat Mahomes out of bounds
To give him an unsportsman-like penalty
To make it a 45-yard field goal that won him a game and sent him in the Super Bowl
Jesus Christ bro
That's a tough moment for that.
The tort ACL too, godly.
Like you lose this year and you might be out part of the next year.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that's a big L, but damn.
That's a very stupid play too.
It's about as stupid a thing as I've seen a pro athlete do at quite some time.
That man about to go to rehab and ain't none of his teammates going to be hitting him up, dog.
Phone will be dried in the motherfucker, man.
God damn.
Who is his player?
Was he a Joseph Osai?
Like the last name, the dad jokes just write themselves.
Okay, okay.
Like, yeah, but.
Right.
Yeah, man.
Just a dumb ass play.
Ego's Chiefs coming up a couple weeks.
Tyler, what do you think about that?
You're excited?
Yeah, yeah.
I am.
I think that, I think the Chiefs take it.
I think that, you know, much like the fucking Niners ran out of luck, I think that
Jaylon Hertz, who's been phenomenal.
I just think it's going to be, you know, I think it's going to be a young QB who probably
gets picked apart on the biggest thing.
age, but we'll see. He's been phenomenal.
Like, I wouldn't be surprised if he bawled out, but
we'll see. While shit is, like, I'm talking
about, you know, Mahomes, like, he's some
elder statements. He's only, like, three years
older than... He's 27. Right, right,
right, right. And he just passed Joe
Montana, who won four Super Bowls in
postseason touchdowns today,
which is fucking absolutely
insane.
Yeah, yeah, I'll be right.
So, you know,
Juju Smith-Schuster got her today,
missed a good chunk of the game, but
having a decent season top 25
catches and yards trying to bring another
Super Bowl back to Long Beach
we have quite a few of them but
we'd love to see Juju he's a good friend of ours
a major donor to the 5-6-2
love to see him get a Super Bowl and
and bring that back to the city so
I'll be a Chiefs fan for two weeks
you know nice rooting for a competent
franchise excited for all that
we'll see how it goes maybe we can get
the Grid Iron Gals back on for a Super Bowl preview
or something before well we got a
couple weeks now.
So we'll see.
We'll figure it out.
Little football basketball crossover content.
Did you guys see the photo of Joelle M.
Bede and Kevin Hart on the sideline of the Eagles game?
Don't you think Kevin Hart should employ someone who just looks out for those candid photos?
Like,
it's a tough photo, bro.
It's a tough photo.
I mean,
I respect Kevin Hurd for not giving a fuck because there's guys out here like, like the
motherfucking bar still.
who's like a notorious tiptoeer in pictures
and shit.
Who is this?
Um, who,
Lee Portanoi,
whatever the fuck his name is.
The guy,
the head of the bar stools.
Yeah.
Probably.
I don't know.
Yeah, probably.
I feel like that's so many of them,
but yeah.
I was not just,
I don't know.
The owner said,
the creator said,
but the owner,
the owner is like notoriously,
like Tyler say,
he'll be in pictures
on his tiptoes,
which is so much worse
than just being a short dude
in the photo.
You could never be the tiptoe.
Just tell me,
yo, dick is
inverted, bro.
Like, that's a tiptoe, nigga.
Just tell me you actually don't have a penis.
I mean, you know what I'm saying?
Like, bro, I mean, bro, I, that's, like you said, that's so much worse.
That's so embarrassing.
You know what I mean?
I'd much rather get caught being 4'8, like fucking Kevin Hart than being on my tippy toes
for an extra half an inch.
You know what I mean?
Like, Tyler, you're right.
It's better that he just owns it.
But I literally can't imagine.
imagine being in a photo where my head is nestled up under another man's armpit, like, beneath
the arm pit.
I just cannot.
I don't know.
When you were short as Kevin Hart, when you were short, I mean, dude, he's like, part of
who he is is the fact that he's really short.
You know what I mean?
Like, bro, he's doing shows.
He's doing movies consistently with The Rock.
The Rock makes him look like a child.
You know, not as much as Joel Embed does.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
But the Rock does.
He's leaning on this shit.
He's making money off being a baby.
baby-sized man.
You know what I mean?
A baby man.
I'll be honest with you, bro.
If I was making the amount of money he's making doing that shit,
I'd be a baby man too for somebody,
goddamn.
That motherfucker's caked up, married to a baddie who...
And she ain't even went nowhere after he was all here
fucking around.
Like, yeah.
Life is good for that man.
It looks like.
I respect it.
All right.
Let's talk about the source magazine tweeting
after they saw it.
I want to say this.
I want to say this before we...
I think like, like I wanted to take a picture with Zubach because I wanted like, bro,
sometimes.
You wanted the picture.
It's like, it's like, I want you to see how big this man is.
You know what I mean?
I'm going to look like a child.
People may be embarrassed when they see me for they might feel embarrassing me next to this tall man.
But it's like, bro, like lean in.
Your photo did not look like Kevin Hart's photo.
No, but it's still, bro, my shadow was at his chest.
It's a pretty pretty, it's not a good look.
My shadow of my face was on this, under this man's pecks, okay?
It was on his midsection, all right?
Bro, I did not look 5-11.
I look like I lie about my height.
That's crazy.
All right, DJ Jazzy Jefferson was, did the, I think he did the, he did the pregame or something
for the Eagles game.
And whatever 20-something year old is running the source's Twitter account tweeted,
wait, DJ Jazzy Jeff is a real DJ, L.O.L.
Thought that was just his title on Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
Jazzy Jeff screenshot it because the tweet got deleted and said,
yep, I saw that word at the source to which the source replied,
nah, you know better.
That was some hack shit.
You've been in the source many times as a DJ.
That's tough, bro.
And listen, I know what you're both about to say right now
is that the source has been cooked for a long time.
But listen to me.
Sports Illustrated is cooked as fuck right now,
and I still expect them to know that Joe Montana was an NFL quarterback.
You know what I mean?
Whoever's running that handle has a basic competency
that they have to have to be tweeting, bro.
That is so embarrassing.
Also, that person cannot be black.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, is there a black, I mean, and also these tweets get, like, is there a black person in the room?
You know what I mean?
Like, these tweets get brought, you know, are, these, this person just doesn't get the keys to the, you know what I'm saying?
To the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, you got to run that by some folks.
And they didn't see anything wrong with it, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like with black folks, you don't even have to be a fucking hip hop a story for this, because I feel like summertime is a fun.
Black person jam.
Bro, right?
A fundamental black person
song right there.
And everyone knows it's DJ Jaz and Jeff
in the Fresh Prince who made that.
But,
but yeah, man,
the source ain't been shit
since like O2
when fucking Benzino
took over that shit
and started beefing with aftermath
and Eminem and Dre
and all them and bustin shit.
And yeah, man,
fuck the source, basically.
Bro, is what I like to say.
They had thug friends
in the source on the internet side,
bro.
Naked.
That shit dead.
What?
We was,
We were making fun of ourselves, bro.
And that shit used to be the hip hop Bible.
Like a five mic reviewed album met so motherfucking much back then.
You know what I mean?
But yeah.
But I mean, like a source mad when they wouldn't get the reviews that they wanted.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So many source reporters have said that rapers had, you know, got confrontational with him over the rankings.
Like that shit meant so much.
They were to make a break your own.
You know what I'm saying?
for sure.
Can make a break.
This is a double-edged sword
when you have young people
running the account, man.
Like, you're either going to get this
or you're going to get
the Tony Dunjy experience
if you let an old head run.
Like, pick your poison.
You know what I'm saying?
Got to find a good balance, man.
Got to find a good balance.
I mean, fundamentally
they should know that DJJJJF
was a fucking actual DJ.
Like, that should be like,
that should be a question on the,
and if you're working at the source,
that should be a, like,
question on the, when you're filling out the, you know what I'm saying, the application,
bro.
You know what I mean?
Like it should be basic as fuck.
But hey.
Tyler said, die a tweeter who doesn't know that the world existed prior to 2010 or live
long enough to see yourself become a man who thinks that schools are putting out litter boxes
for students who identify its cats.
There's no in between.
God damn.
Sheesh.
True enough.
Y'all know some of the background.
of what I'm about to say,
but along the lines of what you just said about the source,
I write about athletes for a living.
Athletes can be sensitive for sure.
Their parents can be sensitive for sure.
But I've written about rappers, writers, artists,
and like other kinds of musicians.
No one in the world is more sensitive than rappers.
I've never had anyone flip out over stories
the way that rappers will flip out over stories, bro.
It's contrary to what they, you know, the message they push.
You feel me?
Like, but go ahead.
It's such a image-centric genre, right?
It's a genre that's full of machismo, braggadacious.
Like, a rapper is like, you know, I'm the baddest motherfucker out.
Like, that's what every rapper believes.
So, yeah, they're super sensitive about that shit.
It's image control, basically, you know, when they step to you about shit like that.
Yeah.
But someone, I forget who it was, but someone said that about you.
Jay Z. That's why Jay Z's not on social media.
He's the most sensitive mother-sucker
fucking planet.
Interesting.
All right.
I would reckon that we might have listeners
who have heard that there was a scandal
around the stack keeping with the Memphis Grizzlies
and they might not understand what that scandal was or why it is interesting.
And so I read everything there is to read about this story.
Have you guys followed this?
Are you up on kind of like what the Reddit theory was that went around?
I saw the initial tweet and the gist of it.
Yeah, yeah.
It seemed like, you know, standard home cooking that has been happening throughout the NBA's history.
But yeah.
Yeah, basically this Reddit user with supporting video made the case that the Grizzlies
home scorebook is adding blocks and steals in particular.
And it took off online.
The NBA moved pretty quickly to kind of debunk this and say, like, no, no, no, we review
these home stack keepers in real time.
But Sunday night, the athletics Fred Kat said, the post is making its way around the league
now, not just the internet.
So the NBA is looking into it.
This scorekeeper was the same scorekeeper that Grizzlies used last year.
And this is what I wanted to bring up, because I think this is a lot of,
what's interesting to me about this is all of the sports leagues in America have moved into
this world where they're all partners with sports books, as are we, and with daily fantasy sports.
And so these stats are enormously important financially down to the granular level.
People do the parlay.
They say, I've got the over on Jaron Jaron Jackson blocks, whatever it is, right?
And a lot of people may not understand this, but the NBA,
does not employ the scorekeepers.
They're still just hired by the team.
So this feels like a place where the league's partnerships
and the way the league's business model is
has moved forward.
And they did not go back and change the fact that like,
yeah, the Lakers, like I literally am friends with the woman
who was the Lakers scorekeeper during the Showtime era.
She's just, and she's knowledgeable about basketball,
but she's a lady who lives in Long Beach,
just like in the suburbs.
You know what I mean?
You would think with the billions of dollars
being poured into this stuff, the NBA would have a central stat keeping source, their own people,
whatever. And I do think, you know, some people have pushed back on this. The NBA is sort of
dismissing it, even as Fred Katz is reporting that they're looking into it. I think this is
something that's going to get looked at. And I do think it's something that's going to come up more
and more because if someone's betting on this shit, if you're betting on defensive player of the year,
if you're betting on who's going to have what stat lines in a game, this is going to end up
meaning a lot to a lot of people.
So I don't know.
What do you guys think of this?
Is this a non-story or is it the opening skirmish in a revolution of sports?
No, I had the same perspective, you know, when I was, you know, kind of reading up on
this story is that that it's so important now because of, you know, how much, you know,
lock and step the league is with gambling now.
and it's it's not only because you know hey we want to make sure that you know we're being honest and truthful with the betters it's like bro you have to it comes out to the integrity of your game you know what i mean like like the ironic thing of gambling which is which was kind of looked at as you know the degenerate activity that was going to kind of you know rot everything in sports that it touches is that i feel like it has made leagues take the integrity of their their league way more serious than we ever seen you know what i mean because no because because uh
A league coming down with the gambling scandal, you know, if it's like, you know, a high profile
enough player, that is going to be a death sentence.
It's like your league will never recover from that.
So, you know, everyone is trying to, you know, avoid that bomb happening and, you know,
they're showing to the public that, yo, we're dead serious, you know, a dead serious about, you know,
the integrity of our league now that we're, you know, in bed with the gambling industry.
So, so, yeah, that's for sure what it comes down to is that, that no matter how little it
might seem, it's the bigger picture is leagues, you know,
showing the public that gambling is not, you know, interfering with the integrity of their league.
Is there a big discrepancy between his away and home games as far as in those defensive numbers?
That was part of the case that the original poster made.
Was that the reason that they...
I think that was why they started looking into it.
And they did have some supporting video where for sure you're like kind of hard to see this being counted as a block.
As you said, the home cooking is something that happens.
you know, which is why I do think this is something we'll read more about.
KOC and some other, you know, basketball stat guys have pushed back and been like,
I've watched all the video of all of the plays.
And I think at most you're talking about three blocks over the course of an entire season.
So there are people pushing back on the idea that, you know, this is a significant thing.
But that's part of the thing about basketball is, uh, it, there is some subjectivity to this shit.
It's the same thing with football.
You have billions of dollars on these games, all these guys who are,
you know, I mean, literally putting their lives at risk playing the game.
And it's insane when you watch a ref spot the football.
And he just picks it up and he's like, oh, he was right about right here.
And he was like thereish, you know.
I don't know.
I mean, you know, the NFL revealed during the playoffs this year, they have a chip in the football that is taking data and measuring where the football is.
But like, I wouldn't be surprised if we move to a less human.
version of sports in some ways
and I guess
I think it's what Tyler said
just feels like they're exposing themselves
to too much risk and liability
otherwise
let's see Jackson's checking in
Jackson says currently has
71 blocks and 17
wait wait wait wait wait 70
17 home games
and 37 home games and 37
so he has 17 home games
17 road games
there's 71 blocks
at home 37 blocks on the road.
So obviously that's a significant elevation.
That's significant, but I mean, if KOC is, I trust KOC.
I trust KOC more than I might than NBA.
He is thorough as far, you know what I'm saying?
When it comes to like, you know, these type of things.
So I mean, if he, he's, I believe he looked at all of them.
And he said, I don't think there's probably issue if he looked at all the videos.
But it's a huge discrepancy.
That's a, that is, was it more than twice?
No, that's not about about twice, close to twice.
Yeah, almost twice.
Yeah.
So interesting.
I would guess more to come on this.
NBA can poo-poo this all they want.
And Tyler is exactly right.
They're poo-pooing it because they need people to keep betting on the,
they want people to keep betting on the Grizzlies when they're playing at home.
But, you know, I'm sure that there's a lot of people looking into this.
And I'm sure that they are doing everything they can right now to come up with a plan,
probably for next season, that will not expose them to a random Reddit user,
potentially poking a huge hole in the gambling revenue boat.
I think in the end, they'll change this process of, you know, the stackkeeper.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I think at minimum they'll do that and be more involved in that process.
Because just like you said, just hiring each team hiring a guy feels a particular way.
You know what I mean?
Having it more standardized, like having like stackkeepers similar to refs where there's training
and they, you know, this is the NBA statkeeper makes more sense in this.
probably like the safer bet.
So I think at least they'll probably change that in the future.
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All right, Jackson, I'm going to need your help on this, but Twitter is all a flame over Eric Andre dating Instagram model, Emily Ratchik Rattikovsky.
I know her from what's that from the show that she, what's the, it's the show about the people that were trying to make it in it.
Ari Gold was in it.
Ari Gold was an entourage.
This is the first time.
She was an entourage.
Yeah, yeah.
Really?
Yeah, she was in Anaraj.
I remember the dude that played,
the main, the main movie character.
The main movie character.
The main movie character.
I loved Entourage, man.
That's a great show.
But the main, the dude that was in like Aquaman or whatever the fuck that movie was,
he was dating her.
And her actual name was the name.
She played herself in Entourage.
Say the name again?
Radikowski?
Yeah.
Ratikowski.
Isn't there a J in there?
I mean,
yeah,
come on, you know,
come on, bro.
Like Shasevsky,
what the fuck letters are in that shit?
She was also in Gone Girl
and she was made famous
from the Blurred Lines music video.
Yeah, I don't remember
none of that shit.
I just remember she played herself
and, uh,
I don't know.
I just remember she played herself
in an entourage.
That's how I knew her.
Because I remember thinking like,
I was shocked
when I found out she was a model
because I thought,
I was like,
she's an actual model?
because she was she looked like no I'm not going to go there
but okay you know you know she looked like
we go we go move on bro
so you know there was a tweet that went viral last week that was
I mean you know there's like 10,000 retweets off somebody saying like I literally
can't believe this is real with a bunch of pictures of them together
I know the three of us have brought this up before I just have to say
You either don't know truly attractive women or you don't know truly funny men if you don't believe that this is a real life pairing.
And I just don't know what else to say about it than that.
I have literally, like, I have literally been laughing with somebody like up until I'm not, I'm nowhere near as funny as this nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, you feel me?
No, I'm not trying to compare that.
I'm a regular ass nigger.
crack jokes to the point where you're laughing
until it's time to actually
you know what I mean
I'll be laughing in the middle of sex bro
that shit will get you pretty far
nigga just being funny
okay
and his level of funny bro
come on gee
that never surprises me
you know what I mean like people like to laugh
it feels good and people like to be around
people that make them laugh
you know I mean so
you know he might not look like a model himself you know he got the he looked at a particular
way but if you keep a motherfucker laughing that feels like a particular you got a particular look
you know what I'm saying but you know what I'm saying you keep a motherfucker laughing bro they
don't want to be around you so they don't surprise me at all yeah man it's it's like like so
many comedians like if you look at their roster's there it's like bro you know what I'm saying like like
fucking Eric Andes Ross is crazy.
He had Rosario Dawson.
You know, they dated a while back.
But you know who's had a guy
has like a mean ass rosset,
a motherfucker fucking Jason Sudecass.
Like he stayed with a baddie, bro.
Ted Lassau.
Tad Lassau.
Yeah.
I mean, he's rich. He's rich.
So that's it, see, that's the thing.
I'm never surprised.
He's funny too, though.
I'm never surprised by funny
and I'm never surprised
when a rich nigga got a batty.
You know what I'm saying?
And if it's a, if it's a rich person
who's funny and he's rich because he's funny,
Oh, he's going to be doing numbers.
Yeah, you said, Jason Sadecas, you know, Ted Lasson, cash in out.
I didn't even know Sadecas had a roster.
Who else is on the list for him?
All types of white women who you, who I even know.
Like, fucking Olivia, uh, hold on, hold on.
Let me go to damn.
Hey, man, Jackson, when he says the white woman, could you please name the movie that she's
in that I might know about?
We'll do it as a challenge.
Okay, okay, go ahead.
So Tyler and then Jackson, then Tyler and then Jackson.
Go ahead.
So Tyler started on.
He said Olivia Wilde.
Yeah, let me hit the Googles.
Let's see if I can.
Jackson, what's Olivia Wilde famous from?
She's famous from that TV show House.
And then also she directed Booksmart.
She's a direct.
And she directed, Don't worry, darling.
I did watch Book Smart.
I'm fairly certain she became famous from House.
Okay.
That show's good, John.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I did watch a couple episodes.
I just don't remember.
It is a good show.
That's a doctor show, ain't it?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't, I don't, sorry.
All right, let me.
You don't have to apologize.
No, we're looking up, we've got, uh, January Jones was, what was the next of his as well?
Who was it?
Who was it?
I got nothing there.
January Jones.
Wasn't she from, uh, Madman?
Didn't watch it.
That sounds right.
Didn't watch Madman either.
Which ads school, too.
Niggas think I'm crazy for not watching Madman.
I never watched Madman either.
It's, it was one of those shows that from the first trailer I was like.
Like these are the exact type of people I have avoided my entire life.
I have no desire to spend an hour a week with them.
Who else, Tyler?
Well, that's already a good roster.
He's already got two, two, uh, two white women that we, most of the podcast has heard of.
So.
Yes.
All right.
Well, that was a fun bit.
Did you?
God damn, Tyler.
I thought it makes me boring and mother.
fucking.
Jason Shadek is,
I'll never forgive you.
Jay Canadi.
I don't know who that white woman is,
but I knew he was there.
Kay Cannon.
Jackson?
Bro, man.
He might,
his roster might be regular.
Anyway.
All right.
Did you guys see the,
Damien Lillard getting a little
too real on Twitter?
I don't know if this is a quote from somewhere or what,
but he tweeted at 2.30 in the afternoon last week on Friday,
trauma decontextualized within a person looks like personality.
Wait, Dane?
Damian Lillard tweeted that.
Let me repeat it.
Trauma de contextualized within a person looks like personality.
Break that down for me.
Just fuck me up.
Break that down for me.
It does seem to be a quote.
From where?
From someone named, I'm, I'm, apologies for the pronunciation of the name.
Olivia Wilde.
Rezma.
Emily Rachikovsky.
He has a podcast called Talk Easy.
Oh no, it was on a podcast called Talk Easy.
Who was?
I'm sorry.
I was talking over here.
I don't know.
It's some person who I've never heard of called Resma Monakam, a man.
Oh, a trauma specialist in New York Times bestselling author.
Trauma decontextualized
But like
I would say that described me in middle school
It was like
Whatever kind of thing you're going through
I wasn't just talking about the stuff
I was going through
But I would be making jokes
That I was making from a place
Of like not caring about
Stuff or whatever
I'd be fighting
Because I was so upset about the stuff
And it was really just the stuff
We were going through in our family
But like
Filtered through me
as a person that it was just throwing that back out into the world.
And that was, and if you met me, that's what you would have thought my personality was.
It's like, yeah, okay, yeah, it makes sense.
Like you're, this kid is a problem child.
You know what I'm saying?
You're saying things like that, but it's like, no, this kid is going through things
and you're judging based upon the trauma that you see him exhibiting.
Yeah.
That's basically, or the, yeah, yeah.
That's how I interpreted it at least.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean a Lillard's tweet.
Damn.
It makes sense.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Yeah, like, you know, if you see a dude who's confrontational as fuck,
always wanting to fight, like, you wouldn't be surprised
if you found out he came from an abusive home.
Right, right, right.
Right.
So, yeah, it adds up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you see the barstool guy standing on his tippy toes,
you assume he's dealing with the trauma of the inverted penis,
like John said.
the belly button
I mean that's a straight line of that
you know what I mean it makes so much sense
All right
I just it was like straight line to micro penis
That shouldn't even
Honestly bro
I think the fact that micro penis as a term
As a descriptor existing
It's so fucked up
It seems so much more offensive than
Like so many terms that we've decided
Are too offensive to be in
Like our modern language.
Oh, I suffer from micro penis.
Like, I don't, that should actually be a thing, dog.
Like, dog.
Just let the man have a small penis.
It's not just small.
You have to call it a micro penis.
Micro.
Jesus.
Christ.
Could you imagine dealing with that affliction?
Man, hey, listen, I'm going through some health stuff.
right now. I had to spend like 10 hours
of last week on the phone with health insurance
people. I can't imagine if at some
point in that
process I had to say the word
micropinets to someone. I just need to do
an eligibility and coverage check.
Oh, okay. Thank you, Mr. Gardabas.
Yeah, what's it for?
Can I spell it?
Do you have a phone?
Can I text you?
You feel me? I don't want that
even to come on a mom-mom.
That's such a good point.
That's such a great point.
All right.
I don't know how we ended up there, but there we are.
That's all the time we got for today.
Tap in the little Yaddy's album, bro.
It's so good, bro.
Oh, yes, Tyler.
Go ahead.
What are you saying?
No, I was going to say, Tyler brought it to the group chat.
So I feel he gets dibs on introing that topic.
Go ahead.
It's really good.
Like, we talked before a few weeks back about how we fuck with y'all.
like this ain't some new shit like you know i love yadi's music but he took such a left turn on
this shit and he nailed the fuck out of it um it's like on some psychedelic type shit like like
like like i heard it i was listening like and i was listening to it like bro this feels like fucking
pink floyd like you know um other you know dark side of the moon like percussion and sense and
all that kind of had that same type of feel and i went to you know twitter everyone's like oh this sounds
like tame apollo which tame apollo is kind of like you know it sounds like it's like tanked
Yeah, because Tame Impala, Tame Impala ran with Pink Floyd.
I'm saying, you wouldn't know Pink Floyd.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I'm not.
I don't know that reference.
You know what I'm saying?
Tame Impala was on the same psychedelic way.
You went to a non-HBUCU college and did not leave with a working knowledge of Pink Floyd.
I feel like that's the only reason.
I went to a non-HBCU college but moved as if I went to HBCU, nigga.
I was hanging with niggins.
Okay.
Okay.
We stuck together.
and fended, you know, had each other's back
in that motherfucker, bro.
Go ahead.
Long Beach State is a little treat for the,
for people who like doing mushrooms.
Every year does a Pink Floyd laser show at the,
at the arena, the theater on campus
that is just entirely attended by college students on troops.
It's just a pink Floyd concert with a laser show happening.
That's the entire pitch.
I made it through college without doing shrooms.
or cocaine too.
So that'd tell you how I was moving.
So, but, but yeah, the way, the way, I honestly feel like,
the way people talk about Lil Yaddy as if he's just a mumble rapper.
You know what I'm saying?
And I know he was listed as one of the top 50 worst rappers of all time.
Nika, just say you don't get it, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, just, I mean, I think it's, there's some bad rappers out there.
Little Yaddy is not one of them.
The mumble rap, going from that to like pops,
star shit, you know what I mean?
Then, like, flipping to, like, straight
Detroit rap in the last album, and that shit
slapped, had bangers, and now to
have a tame Impala vibe
in this one, and this shit slaps.
Every album you listen to, you never know what he's coming
with. Every single album is different.
You know what I mean? And I mean, like,
it's just, bro, he creatively, like,
I think he was talking with, like, Nick Hakim, I don't know if you
all familiar with him, but, like, he's
He's so collaborative as well as, like, pinning for like a lot of rappers or artists that we really fuck with as well.
Like, he's so creative and so respected within the industry.
It's so wild, like, people's impression of him based upon who he was seven years ago.
He's changed 78 times and had four different albums that all sound different.
You know, I mean, you're missing out if you just stuck on who he was when he was 16.
or 17 the first time you heard him.
You know what I mean?
And he talked about wanting to be taking more serious
and showing his musicality in this album.
And he was, it's great.
And you know, like, when, what's your boy name?
This is America.
What, what, uh, Tata Gambino?
When he switched up and did the whole 70 shit
and it kind of felt like he was imitating
what he thought it would be, this is not that.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel like, you know, that was a good album too.
I know he won, you know, awards for that.
you know, whatever.
But, I mean, this album, this feels very, like, he makes all these changes to his style
and it feels very much him.
You know what I'm saying?
He makes all these albums, even though his style change, you know what I'm saying, very connected
to who he is.
It feels extremely genuine.
You know, he doesn't feel like he's forcing shit.
It's so natural.
And it's been beautiful to watch, bro.
I think, like, as far as a fan experience, little Yadi is, like, top three as far as fan
experiences, you know, when it comes to, you know, how he switched.
Like, because I just never seen an artist constantly just on a dime switch, you know,
their style up and nail it like he's been, been able to do.
It has been special to watch, bro.
He's extremely talented and he's still very young.
I have no idea what he's going to do next album.
But this feels like more of, this feels like somewhere he might stay a little bit.
But it's, it's special.
It's a great, great album.
I bought it on vinyl.
I bought the album on vinyl
I bought a little boat album on vinyl
You know what I'm saying
And it makes sense
You know what I mean?
Like how who bought you know what I'm saying
You would never have thought that
You know not even the last album
You don't buy rap albums on vinyl
You know that doesn't really sound
Sound special but I just
It's just incredible
It's been his his trajectory
And how he's been moving
It's been special man
But I love it
I love it
It's a great great album
Yeah
Yeah, Yadi, like, you know, we discussed before how we were both Yadi fans.
And Coffin was a song that I always played for the homies who were like skeptical on Yacht.
If you remember that shit, that shit so hard.
Like one of my favorite tracks of the year dropped, think dropped like 2020.
And it's only like a minute, 40 seconds.
But that shit, ride.
Wait, there's a particular joint that I think, I don't think it's a, wait, I'm trying to,
I'm going to look up coughing real quick.
Oh, one second.
but there's a particular joint on YouTube
that's a little yachtiness is just crazy
let me see
that that yeah coughing with crazy
but there's another joint that he dropped
that it's like bro like this
it's it's so special to me like that
I'll play this shit randomly for no reason
let me see what this motherfucker called
damn
I'll find it I'll find it and tweet the shit
but there's this particular
this particular joint that he drops is just like it's just he's had so many songs that
haven't even made it to albums that are just crazy that I love man he's the dude special bro
he do special and and it's like you know like I said that's that's the song whenever I got the
homies who ain't who ain't fucking with yadi like that they like okay this shit kind of go but
it's like I feel like this album is his best work and it's such a fucking 180 from that
coughing track like it's just a fucking phenomenal artist bro and
And even look at this videos, too, how creative, like this video is on this album.
He's totally swished it up, bro.
You know what I mean?
He's totally swished it up.
And it's just, it's just fire to watch, bro.
It's just dope to see how it consistently changes this shit.
And it's always fire, bro.
It's always fire.
All right.
Well, that's definitely all the time we got.
So we'll be back on Thursday.
It's called Cortex.
The song's called Cortex.
Cortec.
Yeah, that shit's fire.
Yeah, that's my bad.
Tyler.
Tyler,
texed us
about that album
too.
It usually won't.
Either of you
texts about an album
that enthusiastically.
I usually remember
to put it on the topic list.
So my bad.
I apologize.
You don't give a fuck.
You don't know,
guys.
I fucked up.
It fucked up the topic list.
All right.
That's all the time we got.
We'll see you all on Thursday.
Bye.
Bye.
