The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Jenkins and Jonez - Things are getting fishy

Episode Date: October 3, 2022

The guys discuss a bizarre fishing scandal, Rocky the mascot making bank, Giannis’s retirement theory, the Freddie Gibbs album, and much more. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dragonfly Joan Dragonfly Joan The dragonfly Joan A.k.A. Tyler Hey everybody, I'm good. Legerreau Jenkins, aka John. What's that, Bubba's?

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Have y'all got any extra information on that, or do we just have that one video? I've watched a lot of videos. Okay, there's more videos. Is there anything written? Well, first of all, let's explain this for people who did not spend all of Saturday on Twitter, which congratulations to that.

What a life. Congrats to y'all. Out of here living. What a life. Congrats to the Rockefellers who didn't spend the whole Saturday on Twitter. What's funny is you had the whole day to yourself when you still spend it on Twitter.

I wasn't on Twitter the whole day. Just like, I don't know, maybe an hour or something. My screen time was low yesterday. Oh, okay. Congratulations to you too. You are right. I am home alone. I get to use all the really good curse words.

on this episode, so that'll be exciting. Like nigger. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is the episode where Jenkins and Jones reveals that the only thing keeping me from being a flaming racist

is not my friendship with you or general sense of how to be a good person. It's just that I didn't want my children to hear. The only racist who doesn't want their children to be influenced. binary to ever exist.

This stops with me. I'm the end of the line. Never missed their racism as that happened. That's like my alcoholic dad not letting me drink. Like, I'm taking this curse to the grave. Respect it. Shit. Respect it.

Oh, shit. That's great. Sharr will be really happy to hear that you guys made those jokes. That's great. Go ahead. That shard's a... Well, I should probably...

I'll keep that private. Moving on. Moving on. So, a video hit Twitter yesterday, Saturday of scandal at what I assume was a pretty prestigious fishing contest

that a guy... Jake, fucking Jake. Jake, excuse me. Jake. Motherfuckers is what everybody else was calling them. Shit, they was on his head, but go ahead. He was catching fish and putting literal lead weights. Like they looked like they'd been hands smelted.

Like these big lead. Streamlines for bass bellies, right? They look like the only purpose of those lead weights, sir, is to weigh down fish illegally and competitive fishing. And he was putting fish in the fish. Like he like the most creative way to fucking cheat is ridiculous So they caught eight of these fish And they were he and his crew were literally just stuffing these lead weights

And yes actual fish fillet Fucking just cut some other fish Into the fish Someone called him out on it And the video is the I mean we all retweeted it I sent it to y'all is the most astounding thing I've never seen You've never seen it this is like a movie It's like a fucking Will Farrell movie

Like they call him out And then they start cutting the fish open And pulling these big ass weights out Dog Well kill me Was how motherfuckers wanted that man to go to jail There were crimes for people to call the cops From the crowd

Someone on Twitter said Why are he talking about calling the cops Like it ain't 15 of the motherfuckers there already He probably is one, dude I don't know what I'm like all-duty cops at that shit, bro. You don't need to call nobody. Well, I saw, I saw you retweeted someone who said, white people are astounding.

They talk about calling the cops 14 seconds into this video. Some cop call the motherfuckers. The cops are their besties, bro. But I mean, like, I, I, usually I'm like, you know, anti, like, shut the fuck up. But this one, I mean, what, he's won of hundreds of thousands of dollars, you know, like over the past couple of years. years bro and if I'm competing in that motherfucking shit you want a boat you got all this

goddamn money you're cheating motherfucker I was like damn caught a cop on the dude where's your crap I want to want to get that boat dog did you hear the one dude was like Jake you talked all that shit to me bro you're cheating like this man was cheating and talking shit he was hurt you were cheating no old type I feel like you, if you're going to be a cheater, you at least got to be like a smug cheater. You can't be talking shit to the people you've been cheating against, dog. Like that is an extreme violation.

Oh, no, that's me and who know. I'll be looking at your cars and I'll talk shit after I get your ass, dog. Anybody can get it. No, but it was his face after he got caught, like the just the, he literally was speechless. He didn't even fucking breathe for like a minute and a half. It seemed like that motherfucker was like, well,

it's over guys it's been a good run can never show my face this side of town again I would have been halfway back to the holler as soon as they started cutting that fucking fish open I'm in my truck in fucking gear 5

see you later bro they wanted to tar and feather that nigger okay I thought he was black the way that was talking to him I was like dog it got I was like this can't need a to Jake they ain't talking to him

they're talking to him like he's a nigger bro They did him bad. Fucking Jake, man. Fucking Jake, bro. I'm like, where Jake at? This is who they're talking to like that? It was pure hatred, bro.

I ain't seen white people that mad in a long time, dog. This is January 6th. That shit made me realize that you need to leave. I feel like that is a two America's comment. I feel like only white people say that. I don't think I've ever heard black people say. We say you got to get the fuck out of some shit like that. We don't do that.

You need to leave shit. I feel like I'm only, that's a video made me realize I've only ever heard white people say that, dog. The thing is too, like them, at that point, somebody would have got jumped if that was some niggins here. Like, they were so mad. He would have got jumped like six degrees of heat lower. You know what I mean? Like, because I would have been left at that point. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I was, I just, it was, it was, the, the level of anger and no violence was wild to me. You know what I mean? I mean, have you ever been around a fucking dice game where someone got accused of using fucking weighted dice? You know what I mean? Like that like whenever you're watching a Western And someone calls someone a cheater and they all push their chairs back I'm always like that's the most realistic shit ever You're like someone would get jumped over the accusation

That someone's cheating much less they start cutting the fucking dice open And lead pellets are falling out What's wild is I would have like most people would have fought for how they was talking to that nigga You know what I'm saying like the person that was cheating might have swung Because like I'm a cheat but you ain't going to talk to me me that way, nigga. You feel me? It was a it was such a confusing situation to me. It was

wow, gee. I want more information though. I want to know how much money he won, how many years he was winning. I've done some research. Were there accusations about this prior to this? What made them actually cut it open this time? The accused team is Chase Kaminsky and

Jake Runyon, okay, of fucking Hermitage, Pennsylvania and Cleveland, by the way. All of that. I'm... All of that. I'm... Cheating to me.

Yeah. Commitsky, Runyon, Hermitage. They've won over $500,000 in earnings, and the boat that they were fishing in was won at a fishing contest. God damn. Dirty money all over that. So was it this? They wanted all over in this competition? No, no, no.

This was like, they were the team. They were the whatever this loot, whatever the NFL of fishing is. Yes, it was different locations, though. Yes, it was different locations. And they won over five. $500,000 for being the team of the year last year, which is fucking crazy. So, I mean, this really is like some, I mean, that's fucking, they probably will end up in jail. You know what I mean?

That's actual, like, you get into six figures. That's grand theft. Big federal money, dog. You know what I'm saying? What's odd is like, it seems so stupid. Like, Tyler pointed out, like, these motherfuckers knew what type of filet they threw in the fucking fish? You know what I'm saying? So, like, you don't think they could kind of.

look at a fish and kind of eyeball. Like this fish is so-and-so many pounds more than it should be. That don't make no goddamn sense. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like, I mean, that was a... Someone tweeted that. Someone tweeted like, you know that's how this happened was someone was just looking at the fish like,

that ain't no goddamn 32-pounder. Cut it open, motherfucker. That's a 28-pounder long as the day's long there, buddy. I'd be goddamn. That's a 28-pounder. I seen one of them yesterday. Ain't no goddamn way, bro. You can look at that shit and see, like, bro,

how many weight? He put a fillet, fillet, and two weights in one of them. Bro, the fish probably weighed twice as much as it looked like it weighed. Bro. You know what I'm saying? This motherfucker was on. He probably on some coke, too. Maybe there's a coke habit.

This shit goes deep, dog. There's got to be something there more than that. Because that's a, it was blatantly lying to my country ass and ain't even fishing like that. You feel me? I can't believe. I just, I can't believe they put fish fillets in that motherfucker.

They put more fish in the fish, though. That's what I was about to say. At some point, stuffing the fish into the fish, you have to have a moment of clarity. I want to know where the fuck they got the flavor. Like, was there a little fucking runt that that wasn't going to make the way and that they just fucking butcher it up and then threw that motherfucker in? Like, this is some borderline psycho shit we're fucking delving into now, dog. That's what I'm saying?

Some drugs had to be involved. It got to be something wild going on here. He had to owe somebody some money. a gambling debt, something for him to think to like, yo, I'm gonna put some fish in the fish. Like you, that's a, that's wild, gee. That's wild. Well, it looked like, I mean, if you think about it too,

like trying to shove that much meat inside of an animal's mouth, like it looked like they had oiled it up too in order to get it in there. Like it had it looked like all of them. You know what I mean? It had that kind of shine at it. So they had a whole fucking system, bro. They've been doing this shit for a while.

And like you said, what like those lead pellets, I mean, that's like in. the, you know, like a New Yorker cartoon about Lance Armstrong or something where he's opening a jar with steroids on it. You know what I mean? It's just like what, like what else are those four? They were barely spears. Like, you know what I mean? Like, did he make them himself? That's what I'm like, where do you buy those? Yeah, it wasn't even even. I, you know, of all the sports to cheat at, I mean, we've had chess and fishing cheating accusations in the last couple weeks and I guess if you know

I guess if you could steal a half a million dollars people would you know it doesn't matter what the event is people are going to try and steal a half a million dollars but fishing to me is like I don't fish but isn't the whole point of it that it's like it is founded on good vibes I feel like cheating I don't give a fuck about cheating dude but I see why fishermen are upset here because the foundation of fishing is good

vibes and chilling and relaxing and for you to cheat just shits on the whole spirit of Oh shit, bro. Makes complete sense to me too. Yeah, there was definitely like you embarrassed us in front of company vibe to the outrage. You know what I mean? That was just like, fishing is better than this. God damn it.

This is the one place where you shouldn't have to worry about this shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what they felt. But like, yeah, it's like cheating at cornhole or something. It's like, I guess. Like, nigga, we drunk. We don't even care who wins. Why are you?

You cheating. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, I understand, like, I don't know. Like I said, you half a million, a big-ass boat involved. You know, somebody going, you know, somebody might kind of figure away. But yeah, like, the whole spirit of that. Like, you go on fish with somebody, bro. Like, if I go fishing with you, like, nigger, we, we're more family than family.

You know what I'm saying? Like, we're going to sit out there for hours and not say shit and just fucking post up. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we'll say a word every 14 minutes maybe. You know what I mean? Like, it's a real. spiritual experience. Like, I'm sharing something really close to me with you. So like, yeah,

that's, like he said, the whole spirit of is fucked up. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. They was mad. Like, damn, damn, you're going to ruin that? God damn. You know what I'm saying? Shit. This is the last thing we have left. You know what I'm saying? It's the last thing they haven't gotten to.

They haven't got. I was going to go there, but I said a nigger twice already. In the pot, I'm going to, I'm going to say that for the next one. I've already passed my quota. Maybe they did it because they were bored. You know what I mean? Maybe it was just what you said.

Maybe they just don't like each other that much and they just needed something to do. You know what I mean? It's a gambling bet, bro, or it's just cocaine involved. Maybe even something worse, bro. The way he was sitting there, like he was so quiet.

There's something else going on. Like, I'm not going to be able to pace Jorge back or whatever to fuck. Somebody for somebody for to be on this motherfucker head. You know what I'm saying? One of your cousins gonna be on top on his head top so

Mike Gizi Garda Buccio, you feel me? Hey shit, bro, that's how they had that feeling to me, bro. It's deeper than this. It's deeper than fish,

you know what I'm saying? Well, salute to them. And if you haven't seen the video, you have to watch it. It is truly one of the most like unique things I've seen on the internet. Like, that felt like some 2006 internet shit

when people were like, you know, like when white people first got on Twitter, and it was like, black people, what? They didn't know what hit him. It felt like that. I was like, I didn't even know this world exists. I didn't know there was half a million dollar fishing prizes.

I didn't know people were fucking. That shit was crazy. Hey, I remember when motherfuckers were still watching TV and shit, them little bass pro competitions was kind of fire to watch. I used to be tapped all the way in, you know what I'm saying? So I know it gets real competitive and they take it real seriously, but it seems like, you know, it's a gentleman sport. And that's not gentleman behavior.

You know what I mean? It's not gentlemanly how he was sticking fucking old cannons into the fucking dog. Big ass pellets dog. Bro, you can work out with them shit. They at least like eight pounds, motherfucker. They doubled the weight of the fish. Fish don't even weigh the weight of them fucking pellets. You know what I mean?

Like, he has lost his fucking mind. I was saying it came from a very desperate place. He said he's stuffing those fucking fish like he's preparing to battle the fucking British, You know what I'm saying? Tuck a little gunpowder in there. This is the fishing version of a potato gun. Dog, that man, there was a lot of desperation that came out with what he was doing, dog. I'm telling you.

We got that little broom handle, you know, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. Bro, when you are bringing pre-cut fish filets, if there was olive oil on that, he already had cut the motherfuckers. Planned on cheating from jump, nigga. He didn't give himself a fucking chance to compete. fairly you know what I mean he knew what time it was crazy oh man so all right we got to move on I can literally talk about this shit for an hour yeah yeah yeah because well because I want to talk about this next shit too I want to talk about look we're not pocket watchers all three of us are we celebrate

people oh god you know having good things happen for them that they don't deserve to happen for them like whatever whatever whatever but this motherfucker uh Rocky the Nuggets mask Bleacher report said yesterday is making $625,000 10 times the average mascot salary in the NBA. Wow. That nigger got a black card, though. That's a rich motherfucker dog. Probably got an out of all types of shit, though. Right, right.

You ever heard of Rocky? You ever heard of Rocky? It's a hit Rocky Famous It's a motherfucker, dog I told you all my dear And I was half choking Lee saying it But I have way believe it to

Remember when he got fucking hoisted down And he was unconscious that one time I feel like this salary Might have been part of that settlement, dog Because there's no other rational explanation For this motherfucker to make 600,000

God damn One thing I think the highlights Is the fact that they don't make enough money though The motherfucker was doing all them backflips You know what I'm saying? bust their ass like Rocky did prior and they're getting 60K on average

that season is long as fuck 82 games you play 40 of them and your ass is fucking sweating hot riding motorcycles and shit you're an entertainer you got to get three different types of licenses to be a mascot real me? You got all that damn

talent you can do a backflip and ride a motorcycle dude like bro dunk it and shit you got to have a whole bunch of talents and you get 60K? Motherfass. That's some bullshit, bro. They need more.

I think he is closer to adequately pay than these other people that are getting the 60K. I mean, six of thousand. That's an out of money, man. Let's give him 150. You know what I'm saying? Like, they should be at least making

like a hundred fifty, right? Am I tripping? Yeah. Well, this is the NBA. Them billionaires got bread. But I will say, I mean, you know, depending on how much they're doing

outside of the fucking games, like you have 41 games to $60,000 for 40 days work a year. Like, all the appearances and shit, you go on the fucking elementary schools and shit talking to kids events so the other thing was and actually if you want to talk about who's really underpaid the fucking NBA cheerleaders the average salary is 30,000 $30,000.

The only way they can make more like you said doing more appearances and shit like that. You know what I mean? But it's just like. And the practice they go through are crazy, bro. Like they're long, tiring sheds, bro. Like that's his, when college I dated a woman that was like a cheerleader for the MBDL. team and the practices were crazy like I'm like damn gee like and you can pay next to nothing like yeah that's wow we we have a couple uh girls that we knew uh who we covered in high school and other

sports who became NFL cheerleaders and the shit they told us is just like they don't make any money it's all off at 1099 you know what I mean like they don't really have any kind of benefits or insurance other than if they get hurt while they're doing shit and as she said yeah it's like that for all cheerleaders like no one's on staff only the person who teaches the cheerleaders is on staff you know what i mean she doesn't cheer she's not cheering right she's just she's just like she's right exactly so yeah it's just crazy but six hundred 25 000 to be a mascot bro because he's tucking his fucking rocky head in the back of a fucking portion or whatever the fuck i mean 600 000 bro i do a whole bunch for six on a thousand

i do something real strange too but anyway no but yeah yeah but when it comes to like the cheerleaders too that get swapped out quick too like there's no real it's just it's it's it's fucking up, but yeah, that's it. Well, salute to Rocky, I guess, from Jenkins and Jones. Yeah, I ain't mad at it. I ain't mad at it. I'm a little mad about it. $625. Let the man make his bread. He's doing back clips and shit. I can't do

nann, nothing he's doing out there, bro. I'm hating a little bit. I'm 5% hating. I mean, but also it's hot in the motherfucking shit. You know what I mean? He's in that arena dancing. That shit, I don't know, bro. I honestly, that would be, even for 600,000. $1,000, bro. It would be, I would do it, but it'd be hard to get up and go do that motherfucker. You know what I mean?

Like, I do not have to want or desire to be entertaining people like that. There's no funnier image than someone wearily putting on a mascot head. Bro. You know what I mean? Could you, imagine you, Mike, you got the whole body. Here we go. You walking right in, bank. And now you rock it.

You know what I'm saying? You get paid really well, but damn. Kids are going to be punching you your nuts and shit. I think Tyler's right. I think he gets paid the $60,000. thousand dollars everyone else gets paid plus five hundred thousand dollars of a very intense uh you know silence clause about there's no other explanation here on okay uh we did our media day grab bag on the last episode preseason's getting cranked up but uh we did have a number of people

tweeted us that we did miss one topic and i apologize to you guys for missing this on the grab bag but many people would like uh uh an analysis of jimmy butler's hair. He's just fucking around. He has said as much. Like, you know what I mean? So, I mean, I guess you gotta respect it.

You know what I'm saying? He ain't taking himself seriously. It ain't, it ain't like he pulled the Yogadi where he just grew a beard like in one day and shit. Like, he was like, yeah, it's some bullshit. But, you know, I'm just having some fun with it. So. I think Yogadi kind of was almost like this and bullshit, too.

But what the fuck you're going to do about it? I'm Yogadi, nigga. You know what I mean? Who's going to say something about it? But I love it actually, bro. It's fun. It's fun, bro. It's really weird.

But he has the confidence to pull it off. There's no way in hell. I could go out there in front of on camera and be like, these aren't extensions. What the fuck you're talking about? Even jokingly. I don't have the confidence for that. I love that he's out there doing it.

So yeah, I think it's fun to say, bro. I hope he plays in it. I love to see him trick. Maybe we even get a brawn moment when one flies out. You know what I'm saying? These are not extensions. still lying to the people. Come on, man.

Let's go further. Fucking putting lead pellets in his fucking hair and shit. Braun's shit really peeled back. And the nigger still want to act like he ain't bald. Bro. We saw it. Jeez. And the Davis.

Pull your head back down. Put your hair back down. Right. Shit. The roof is missing, Nicky. God, damn. Every hero needs the Achilles heel.

It's the one thing for Brian. He has, I mean, like, literally, like, what else could you do to improve his life except make him grow hair naturally? I take it, man. It's just that. I take it. That's a hell of a deal, Bubba.

But it's not a deal he's willing to take. He wants a hair, too. I guess when you have everything, that little small thing you don't have is, like, what the fuck, bro? You know what I mean? that's what fuels greatness the fuel

that's what fuels the greatness not willing to settle refusing to give up that's how I got to where he is you know what I'm saying all right I want to talk I want to talk about

fucking Tyler tweeted the video of Janice talking about his retirement plans yesterday that was great and then Evan Turner responded today and said he likes the attention too much for that

bro I saw that comment I was like this is how you know Janice is the best in the league right now like when you when you've got he's already got retired opponents talking shit he's the best in the league you know what I'm saying

that was some irrational out of nowhere shit from a former opponent who's retired on a fucking Saturday night in the Twitter comments I was like this is some brown shit like you know what I'm saying

this is the same shit Brian would do for like you know 15 years I was like Janice has arrived now what do he say what did he said he likes what did Yana said he like what did Yana said that his retirement plan is that, you know, he'd been on a vacation where no one knew who he was

and he really enjoyed it. And that his plan when he retires is to just disappear. He said, like, Tim Duncan, where is Tim Duncan? He's on the spurs, by the way, Janus. But we get it. And he's, but the thing is he should know where Tim Duncan is. Like, he plays the Spurs a couple times a year, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, Tim just be coaching and going home, bro. Like, like, yeah. Big ass pants, bro. You know what I mean? But my, my home,

I forget exactly who saw Yannis, but they were at the airport, L-A-X, Janus was going, like, going through, like, going through check, with his family and his wife,

going through, like, getting checked, like, he wasn't Yonis. Like, going through security. Like, regular going through security, dog,

like, not through the back or, like, tarmac, none of that shit. Like, Janus Anteco, walked through the front

of the fucking airport. What's weird? I think Janus doesn't know he's honest though you know what i'm saying maybe going on that vacation by himself like oh wow this is what it is to be normal like you know what i'm saying like or whatever maybe he didn't realize he wasn't normal i don't know he definitely shouldn't be risking a fucking neck or back injury by bending his body into a 45 degree angle to fit through the security scanners at fucking lax i'll say that uh i think part of it i mean um you know he's talked about a little bit and it um it was in

his biography a little bit as well like just because of the way he's you know he's talking about a little bit as well like Just because of the way he grew up, he just doesn't like, like spending extra money on anything seems sort of like a, like sacrilegious to him. You know what I mean? So they were talking about that. Like he really does still, like still someone made the joke. It was like, you know, that thing went viral by him bringing water bottles home, but he still does that. He still does that now. I remember there was a video with Oprah as Will Smith, like, where would he have to be to be, like, comfortable?

And it was like some insane amount of money. He was already worth like 200 mil and he was like wasn't moving. But he said like because he grew up, he's like, he just never wants to go back to not having shit. Bro, like, so like he just, it's a, I don't know, bro. So as much as he's worth, some things are hard to let go, man. You don't forget certain memories. So it makes sense.

I was just thinking about that. I mean, Shar and I, this is the going from broke boy to lower middle class equivalent. It took me a long time to stop buying the 99 cent shampoo. You know what I mean? I was buying the 99 cent shampoo for much longer. really out of a like, why would I waste money on shampoo that doesn't smell like gasoline? You know? I still don't know.

Hey, that little weekends like swab coconut shampoo? Hey, that's good money, dog. I stand by that. That's what it was, bro. I got off it. But there's two levels of swab. It's the 99 cent one and the 299 one. And it took me till like my late 20s to buy the 291.

Bro, I was cutting. And I'll still pull water in it and shake it up. You know what I mean? That's empty. I was cutting lotion bottles open to about probably 36. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, man, there's still some more than this motherfucker. I'm certain, you know what I mean?

Cutting a lotion bottle open. Driving a very nice car, doing anything that you felt like, being able to forward doing anything you felt like doing, but the certain habits that you built in, you know what I mean? We talked about this with the speed that you eat at, right? If you grew up with siblings and in a house that didn't have enough food,

I still have to like I try and do because it's a health thing you eat your food fast you eat your way more food than you need to I still have to like breathe in through your nose

breathe out through your mouth put the fork down these are hard things to elbow your children aside to eat all of the sides like so you can get seconds there's enough

right there's enough or maybe you just don't need seconds take your time you eat slow your body will tell your stomach tell your brain that you know what I'm saying

that you're full there is something to that Will Smith, Braun, and his hair thing, though, you know what I mean? That Janus seems more able to appreciate how far he's come, I feel like. But there is something to that, and we've discussed this on the show, where, like, if you're Braun and you're sane, you quit like 10 years ago, right? You know, you're like, oh, I got enough money. I'm set for life.

Everything's good. Like, the only people who reach, it's the same thing with actors. If I made $4 or $5 million acting, like, okay, cool, I'm not. getting up at fucking 6 a.m. to do stunt work or something like that anymore you know what I mean? But like the people who make it to the tops of those professions are the people who get what most people would consider to be a ludicrous amount of success and are like I need more money. Or I need more acclaim. You know what I mean? Or I need to accomplish more. Like it's like Will Smith should have quit acting fucking forever ago. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? Honestly like I would

have got one big movie. Y'all never heard of a nigga again. You know what I'm saying? But like no, With Brian, I think if basketball is different to me because, like, acting, like, you have to, like, sacrifice a certain amount of time. And, like, I mean, as far as, like, sometimes you're changing your body, yeah, but you change it. You're changing your body in ways. You wouldn't change, like, gaining, losing weight. Like, that's some, that's some wild shit. Like, you know. But with basketball, like, I don't know, for me as somebody that played for a while, like, I loved it.

So I see why you want to keep playing. I think the thing with Janus is like Brian and Wilson are like the people that are like Will Smith said that you won't outwork me You know right right right right You both get on the treadmill I'll die before I stop before you

Like and I believe he actually kind of like You know moves in that way And Brian's the same type of dude Fucking Janus just works You hear about the shit Janus does Yonis don't ever talk about it You know I mean he just I think he just has a straight up joy for the game

And just goes and fucking work hard because he likes it not because he's trying to outwork anybody he's just he just he just loves playing basketball right so I think that's why there's I think that's why they kind of pro it just feels different with them like I think like there's goals that fucking braun and and will Smith have today you know Janice has goals but I think like Janice is just good because he likes playing basketball and just works hard because he enjoys playing basketball you know he's the best playing the world because he likes the game not because he ever really wanted to be the best playing the world

You might have some goals now, like, I want another chip and all that shit. But for the most part, it seems very healthy in how he approaches shit, unlike, you know, a lot of people that are great where they're, you know, they wanted to be that from day one. I want it to be, I'm tired of being number. Like, Rock's my favorite Instagrammer. You know what I love his page. But it's weird. I know that's odd. It's probably shocking.

But, like, I love the Rock's Instagram. But he'll say that, are you not tired of being number two? Like, no, number two gets paid a lot of money. I love to be number two, bro. You know what I'm saying? But like, that's something very unique about Janice's approach. Because I remember when people were on his fucking head when he said KD was the best play in the world last year

and during that series. And at that time, you know, that was a very valid argument. I wouldn't say KD's the best playing in the world. Now, I think, honestly, like I said, I think it's Janus. But he said, you know, just a few days ago, he's like, the best play in the world is the last guy standing to me and it's Steph right now. Like, you know, I think that's how he views shit.

Like, who is the last guy standing? and who's the guy who's, you know, performing the best in the playoffs. I think that's who he views it as the best play. I don't think he views himself as like, I have to be the best. You know what I mean? He just wants to be the best him.

And I think, like, if I'm him, that's, like, that's fine. That's, like, that's such a healthy way to approach you. We're like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm just going to be the best I can be. The best he can be is the best player in the world. I don't know what he said. I mean, I do care what he says.

I like Janus a lot. But, also, Janus, you're wrong. You're the best playing in the world. You know, Seth Curry, top five, best players in the world. You're the best player in the fucking world. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, I mean, I think he feels that way. Like, he's like, yo, Katie's the best player in the world.

I saw Katie put up 60 right in front of me. That's the best player to me in that moment. And I think him being the second and third best player, it's not a bad. He understands that's not bad. There's nothing bad about that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Most people like him don't.

Don't understand that. Like, they got on his ass on that serious soon. When he was like, yo, we're feeding him. Middleton when it's crunched time. He has been great this postseason when shit's coming down to the wire. So we're giving him to rock and people got on his ass about that. Like he doesn't care about that narrative bullshit.

You have to be the alpha dog or Batman Robin shit. He doesn't give a fuck. And he said all of that and then still drop 50 in the fucking game inside. You know what I'm saying? Like it still made the biggest plays in the playoffs or his team like to win the chip. So like, you know, it's not preventing him from being

the best player when he needs to be. You know what I'm saying? Like it's just really weird how people approach it. But yeah, I think he's, I think the way he approaches is super healthy. And that's abnormal for somebody that is that good. Yeah. And someone who obviously had to say, Mike. Yeah. Someone who obviously had to work a lot to get that good because he was a fucking, he was

the fucking skinny. He was a slender man when he got to the league. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, like, um, y'all never seen that one clip when he was like, I've been down before, bro. Aaron, Aaron Freezo was doing the playoffs. He was like, oh.

Call himself out. Right, right, right. But at the same, but it's like, like you said, he wasn't, he didn't set out to be the best player in the world, John. It's like, he was literally just trying to secure visas for his family so they could live in the country. They've been living in his whole life without worrying about the immigration police. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's literally what his basketball goal was for the first several years of his career. So his level of happiness, like what he needs to be happy is so much lower than most greats, right? Like, I think if Janus made it to the, you know, like, you know, made it out of the situation. in and had a regular life.

He'd be one of the happiest people on the planet still because that's just honest. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of players that are great. Like, you know, if they didn't make it to where they're at now, I mean, I couldn't see Brian being happy with being, you know, Chris Middleton. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, as great as he is. The LeBron James of Chris Middleton. You know what I'm saying? Like, he, Brian. The LeBron James of LeBron James is who are Chris Milton. Right, right, right. Right.

Right. You know what I'm saying? as great as Chris is. He still would have been like, you know, he probably would have been like, there's no, it's just different ways of approaching life. I saw the movie smile yesterday. Spoiler free review, please.

Would you like a spoiler free review? Yes. Okay. I don't mind spoilers. Go ahead. I feel like there's a, I feel like the whole shit of this shit is why are they smiling?

I feel like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't want that to be spoiled. You know what I mean? I think Mike already spoiled it with the tweet. No, no, no. I don't know. I didn't. But, but, uh, I thought it was this. Okay. Okay. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't spoil. And I didn't spoil anything about it. But I will say the reason why people are, are smiling is the extent to

which it's answered, it's answered pretty quickly in the movie. Okay. In a sort of a traditional horror movie thing. There's not like a, there's no, there's no reveal there particularly. You know what I mean? Um, it was fun, man. The thing I tweeted yesterday was, I wish I, like, it's just one of those movies that I feel like I see horror movies like this every now and then where you're like I wish I was a teenager when this shit came out and I've seen it at like a theater with my high school friends and we would have been like acting super ignorant and fucking stupid during the movie because it was just like fun and creepy it definitely like it definitely took itself too seriously in the frame you could tell like the pitch for it was probably um the women's version of get out

that was like the horror of everyone telling you like not taking you seriously when things are going wrong for you like gaslighting you telling you to smile you know all this other stuff but there wasn't a way for them to end that analogy

you know what I'm to land the metaphor so it kind of turned into a different movie at the end but it was fun man it was it was wild to me because I saw it in a theater and like people had their kids in it which which is not like I mean I like horror movies a lot but they had like eight and nine year old kids in it

which was like you're making it harder yourself you know what I mean you're the person you're the one who has to raise this kid right right right right the consequences of that you know what I'm saying that's a great I didn't think about that

whether it's a sociopath or them not be able to sleep at night you have to deal with the consequences so how old were you guys when your parents started letting you watch horror movies or when you did start watching horror movies whether you're allowed to or not like real like real horror movies obviously

never had my parents stop me. Like, you know what I mean? But, you know, when we grew up, it was easy as hell to watch horror movies. Like, they would come on fucking syndication TV you know, this time of the year, right? Like, maybe on Elm Street would be on fucking, you know, Fox at like 10 o'clock at night.

You know what I mean? Right. It's almost impossible, I think, to have stopped this. I mean, you had to be around your short of y'all. If you had a TV in your room or you could get to, you was watching TV after your parents were to sleep, you know what I mean, especially during around this time? Like, it was, shit,

I mean, that was all that was playing. I missed that low-key. I miss. I miss not having access to certain shit. You know what I mean? And I kind of miss, like, because I mean when, like, certain movies would come on, like, oh, shit.

You know, like, I haven't seen this in hellas, you know? And then you could, I, I, I, I, kind of missed that. But, yeah, I don't, I thought, I think, like, it was kind of impossible at a certain point. I mean, I couldn't watch the, like, if I wanted to watch the R-rated one, like the actual, you know, VHS and shit like that. I didn't access to that, but, you know,

I had the ones with the bleaked-out curse words and whatnot. I think I'm, you know, none of us are like old people yelling at clouds. Like, the world used to be so much better. But I'll stand by that the physical limitations to media was better. Like kids, when we were teenagers, we cared more about music than teenagers now care about music. Because when you got, you had to get it, right? you had to acquire it and then that object had and this is how human brains work it had a significance to you that you can't really replicate that you know what i mean so i do think that there were some advantages to

to stuff like that even though everything that comes out now basically is better you know like tv shows movies like all that shit's better for sure um but i do think it was better like when you would people talk about this with blockbuster all the time but there's so many experiences like that when you would go and you'd get to choose a thing as opposed to like well Netflix says I like this shit tonight you know what the experience too was like that was something we shared like it was an exciting experience for the family even though Blockbuster was like four minutes away there was one on every corner like a fucking McDonald's you know what I'm saying like we would go there we spend 20 minutes like interacting what should we pick we have three movies all of us can pick we'd all

communicate and figure out which movies are picked that was a fun experience also like you know Let's, like, people talk about the sneaker games, whatever, but like, the sneaker game, like, you can't, you can't get certain sneakers anymore. For me, it's more like the conversations I'll be able to have with people that really were all the way tapped in that was really fucking with sneakers. You know, same thing with, like, music. Like, you said, like, with Big L, like, you had to go out and get Big L's album. You know what I mean?

Like, that shit wasn't, like, app rappers like that. So if I knew a motherfucker and listen, we could really tap in, you know, there was a, there was a genuine connection with, you know, when you. I could physically, if I like something, I could physically pass. that enjoyment of something to you. You know what I mean? And then if somebody liked it too, there was generally a connection between the two.

Like, you could, you could have a, I could have a, I knew I could have a, if somebody had particular stickers on, I know I could sit down and have a real conversation that motherfucker about some sort of shit. Or certain music you listen to as well. You know what I mean?

It's kind of different now, which I think it's good to have access to all that shit like the shorties and like, but like, I loved when like down south music was down south music. Like this, like, you know, New York, uh, drill shit.

This shit sound good, but I like Chicago drill music much better. And I like the times when Chicago's music was Chicago's music. Atlanta's music was Atlantic music was Texas music. You know what I'm saying? Well, like, I don't know. I mean, you know, they talk about, like, if you talk about Long Beach and Southern California, like the G-Funk sound stuff, like that literally just came from like what available instrumentation is there.

You know what I mean? It was almost like a physical resource. Like, oh, people in Hawaii are better at cooking with these types of foods because they only grow in Hawaii. you know, it was like, well, we have the shit that makes this noise. So that's what our music is coming from. And it's like, Access is cool, right? Like ASAP mixed a bunch of different shit when he came out.

You know what I'm saying? You know, a lot of huge and shit, a lot of Memphis. And he's from, well, I think he's from Brooklyn or something. Is he from Harlem? He from Harlem? But anyway, that's a nice little mix, right? But for the most part, like, it's not a lot of people like that. Most times it's everybody just sounding the same now.

Like a nigga from New York, sound like Atlanta. So I think we don't get the same mix of, like, the same, like, You know, for sure. It's more homogenous, heterogeneous, you know what I'm saying? As far as like the, the, the, the type of music we get now. But, I don't know. Homogeneous?

Is that how we would say that? Actually, I don't know. It would be homogenous. I say homogenous. Well, but it means, I mean, it is, it's funny. We say homogenous, but it is, it's the same route as homosexual. Right, right, right, right. You know what I mean?

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call 1-800 gambler or visit fanduel.com slash RG. You guys both were huge fans to the Freddie Gibbs album? Yes. Loved it. It's immaculate. Loved it. Have you tapped in yet, Mike? No, I'm going to listen to it today. Tell you, go ahead. It's great. I mean, like, I've said before, that Freddie Gibbs is on like an all-time second act run for a rap artist. I think that there is, if you look at Freddie Gibbs as an artist, you look at his discography, there is before Pignada in 2014 and after Pena. Right?

And that run that he's been on after Penaata with Alfredo, with, you know, Bandana, with, you know, this album. It's with Freddie. It's just been, you know, with Fetti, with Spitting Alchemist, too. Like, it's just been a, yeah. It's been a ridiculous running And like I said It's one of the best second acts

We've ever seen in rap history For sure There is before two Before I mean after Penaata I thought Penaata was like Maybe like you know What's called Lightning in a bottle

You know what I'm saying Where like he just caught something And but he kind of felt that out And then moved forward It's like every album Has been a little better This album was probably the biggest leap to me though I mean as much as like

The other albums were Great I mean And there were perfect albums I don't think he's dropped the bad song Since Penaata Like that's what Eight years of music without dropping a bad song.

And he's fucking rapping on every fucking one to like, like capital R. You know what I'm saying? Like for real. So I mean like, but this album to me is just like, okay, I've shown y'all, you know, that I deserve to have Ross on my album now. Or you know what I'm saying?

With these feature seats, yeah, he built up to, you know, the like on some like doing shit with like currency and his homies and shit and Alchemists and all that to do like a more commercial album this time. but he didn't do it in a way that felt like he sold out at all or switched up to formulas like yo I'm bringing them to my world you know what I'm saying like I love it I think it's a beautiful album all those fucking features I didn't know how he's gonna make it mix make it make it

gel you know what I'm saying like with all those producers like I mean and then he did like the little like bro nobody's like clamoring to have DJ Paul in the feature you know what I'm saying but like that shit went crazy yeah right after a totally like right after the uh was it rap rap rapid vision that is like a very introspective like I mean, this nigga that has a life totally different from mine, right? It's saying, like, what do you say, like, talking about all the heartbreak he dealt? Yeah, yes.

Some things broke my heart, but it fixed my vision. Yeah. That's a bar. Who can't relate to that? Yeah. Who can't relate to that? You know what I'm saying? Like, I think the things with me personally, the things I've learned for most have been heartbreak,

you know what I'm saying? Or, like, you know, mistakes. But yeah, man, it's just like, bro, like, what he's been able to do over the last, well, that's eight years, it's been special. And I think this is like, this is like the culmination, all that work. And it is beautiful to see. And I loved it. And also we saw like maturity when you were talking about GZzi.

I think Tyler, you brought that up in the group chat. You know what I mean? Like we've seen the growth of them. And especially with a lot of these young cast, and this is just one of the heartbreaking thing about rap, don't get a chance to like, be like, you know, I fucked up when it came to GZEZ. They don't make it to that, you know,

at that point when they could be able to say that. So it's beautiful to be able to watch his career. But there is, like, he's lived two totally different lives within rap. You know what I'm saying? And both of them were great. You know what I'm saying? I'm a huge fan of the second one, though. The second act, you feel me?

For sure. Before we get out of here, can I share with you my thoughts that has occurred to me from spending too much time by myself over the last 48 hours? What's up? Okay. So, you. You know there's like a theory. You guys have heard of like NPC theory or whatever.

You know, there's these like sociopathic ideas that like, you know, it's kind of the same as simulation theory. There's these sort of like sociopathic ideas that like you're the only real person in the world or like whatever else. Right. I've been feeling that way since probably three. Everybody's an alien and I'm an experiment. That's what I've been. That's what I would tell myself.

Or some shit like that. Isn't that what they call it? I think. But yeah. Solips. Solips. Solips. Some.

But, okay, one of those, a branch off that tree of thought is that history did not actually happen, right? That like the world blinked into existence a month ago or however long ago. And the people here, like we all have our memories intact, but these things didn't actually happen. Have you heard this? No, but that's interesting. Yeah, I mean, I don't believe it at all, but I love the thought. I actually had that thought like high, like, okay. I know I was a third grader once,

but Kate, I really prove that, you know, I was a third grade. You know what I mean? Beyond my memories. You know what I mean? This is why I was a philosophy minor in college because it was like, I could spend a whole day thinking about George,

George Barkley saying, prove that the world doesn't stop existing when you blink, you know? It's like, you can't do it. So the thought that I had was, I don't believe those theories, but they're just like fun to think about or whatever. But why did pants have so many pockets before the cell phone was invented? Like cargo pants were extremely unnecessary.

Like what were we using cargo pants for in 1994? But if you think about a base pair of jeans, in my left pocket I have my keys. There's five. In my right pocket, I have my phone. And in my rear pocket, I have my wallet. why that feels correct doesn't it that you have like the three things you walk out of the house with every time and you have like three or four pockets why do we have so many pockets if the cell phone hadn't like been invented cosmically or something but not in physical reality carlo makes no and just like i could i could see that though like just fashion wise like who just wants to add pockets like that doesn't make a lot of sinks you know what i mean so was one of them for trash?

Like in 1965, what was the, what was the other, niggas was litig. Nixin' in 1965, niggas. Niggas was throwing that shit on the street, motherfuckuckuckin.

What was recycling and the anti-litter. That shit was in the 80s. Not early 90s. It just feels to me like pants were invented for 2022 for, and maybe there's something else coming that's going in the other rear pocket. But it feels like they were invented

for something that didn't yet exist. It was the overwhelming feeling that I had. I don't know a single person that likes to use their pockets. Like, most people I know don't like having shit in their pockets. You know what I mean? Like, I don't sometimes think I want my phone in my pocket here. I'll give it to Rodder. She can put it in her purse.

Like, I don't, you know what I mean? Like, the wallet is all I really need and the cash and the right back joint. And other than that, I don't want nothing. These front pockets aren't even really for use. They just, you know what I'm saying? So really, you only need two pockets. Yeah. Can change, maybe?

I think it's just for a fucking aesthetics and symmetry purposes, though, bro. Like, who the fuck? Look, like, I'm not wearing no jeans without no back pockets, dog. That booty going to be looking good, though. Them jeans is cut for the booty to look good when they got no pockets on it.

That thing will be looking nice. You feel me? But also, it would be really weird and maybe our brains are telling us this because we've been, you know, but it'll seem weird to not have front pockets. You know what I'm saying? Like even though I don't use them shits for damn to nothing, I hate using them.

Bying the thought of buying pants that are just naked, just no pockets. You know, just nothing. No pockets. It feels wrong. You know what I mean? Nika ain't wear the pockets on this motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Like even though I'll barely use them shit.

That's interesting. But was the phone then invented to fill the other pocket? No, but the thing is though, you know, you still don't need cargo pockets for the phone. fucking phone, bro. The phone who throwing the phone? What crazy person is throwing the phone by their knees so that motherfucker can be swinging off?

I'm saying like in my front pocket. Like I'm wearing I'm wearing like good workout shorts right now. Pocket, pocket, rear pocket, right? Keys, phone, wallet when I'm going to the store. Honestly, a lot of niggas was hands in their pocket niggas back in the day, bro. I think we've lost that as we got

older. We have the phone in our hand now. Because there's a fucking phone in there now. But yeah, you have the phone in your pocket or you have your phone in your hand. So you ain't walking around with your hand in your pockets. You know, that even people that pose. Like you taking photos. Remember people who pose with their hands in their pockets? If you can do that now and I'm like, you, Nick, what the fucking?

Tyler, did you used to pose with your hands in your pocket? Yeah, I was for sure. Yeah, I was a hand in. Yeah, I was a hand in my hand. 90s. Yeah. And sometimes you just had the thumb in the pocket. It wouldn't be the head.

The thumb I'd be hanging out or the tattoo. Had it just in the thumb was never with the phalanche. Yeah. The thumb was. never with the phalanches. You could put your whole shit in the pocket you're a fucking weirdo. You put the thumb in there alone or you put the philangis in there and just had a thumb swinging, you know what I mean? But a whole hand in the pocket ass dick are different, bro.

You know what I mean? I don't know who that. That segment was for one person who's going to tweet at me on Monday and be like I've been researching aliens and pockets and phones. I spit my whole life trying to answer this question. I don't know, bro. This is the shit And we're going to invite that

motherfucker on the pot. Yeah, come on the pod. If that person's out there, they are coming on the pod and talk about that research. For sure. All right, that's all the time we got. We'll be back on Thursday.

Hope the start of your week goes well and we'll talk to y'all soon. Bye. Bye.