The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Jenkins and Jonez - Trae Young The Villain + The Fish Sandwich Ad Heard Around the World

Episode Date: March 24, 2022

The guys discuss Trae Young taking his beef with New York to a new level, LeBron dunking on his “friend” Kevin Love, Zion’s Instagram dunk, why Pusha T’s rap won’t push them to get the Arby���s sandwich, the latest on HBO’s ‘Winning Time’, and drop their first installment of the Jenkins and Jonez voicemail hotline.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and I want to talk about Trey Young It's just delicious It's delicious I want to lick it off my fingers The barbecue sauce is delicious How do you decide to beat with the biggest city In the country

And succeed It's my favorite shit ever And I feel like I feel like Trey Young is Tyler If he was a basketball player That's how I feel about it He enjoys the beef More than he enjoys winning

It's very clear I enjoy Tray Young and the Knicks rivalry Because I think that whole Every game is every game You know I think that's bullshit There's certain games When that fucking schedule drops

That you're circling with a red marker Like yeah I'm gonna show the fuck out that night And Trey owns up to that shit You know what I mean And like you know everyone says You know the league is better When the Knicks matter

I'm not sure I necessarily buying it I think the league is better When the Knicks have a villain And I think they for sure Got a villain in Trey Young because, you know, it's the whole going to Madison Square Garden, the fucking, you know, the mecca, the best basketball arena in the world, and having a guy who comes there and is just set on ripping everyone's hearts out. That's what the NBA is at its best. Not what fucking Julius Randall is winning most improved player, bro.

Sorry, Julius, we don't care about you. What's crazy is, what's wild is like, it's just like, you almost crack the top five Julius is ever in NBA. Good job. What's wild is, it's like, Trey Young versus an entire fan base. and the fan base feels like it's getting jumped. Like, it feels, it feels like it's unfair in an odd way. Like, bro, leave him alone, Trey. He's, he's talking shit to the crowd.

After the crowd, he's like, it wasn't that loud. It wasn't a big deal. He's mocking them at every turn, and I love to see it. And like you said, bro, like, this isn't faking. He loves the beef more than winning. This is who Trey Young is. This is who he's been. There's this, like, supercut of Trey Young in high school.

He's doing the bow back then. You know what I'm saying? He's caught this type of shit His entire basketball career Probably since middle school You feel I'm saying So I love to see him doing in the league Dropping 45 in MSG

And then like, yo, it wasn't that big of a deal It wasn't that loud, you feel of me Good for Trey Did you see the video of Roy Wood Jr. Posted on Twitter? No, it was. He was sitting courtside for the game and he's sitting next to the dude

that after Trey Young hit a three and they go up he walked the dude the dude sitting next to roy would have been heckling trey young the whole game so he so he hits the he hits the shot and he walks over to the dude and he says hold this hell my guy talking shit to the crowd this is in game bro this isn't a dead ball not a not a tv timeout bro he had to chase the guy he was defending because he took some time away to talk to talk to homie and it had to chase on baseline you know what I'm saying like bro

hilarious dude he loves it tray loves it you're feeding the beast they you know they think they're doing what they're supposed to do don't do that to tray he wants this he needs a reason to give a fuck you know what i'm saying i don't i don't understand why someone uh if if i was to be a court side NBA fan if i had money like that to vote i don't think i would go to watch teams that i'm invested in right i would be the roy wood in this situation i'm not paying fucking 20 000 for fucking Trey Young to rip my heart out and talk shit to me about my squad, bro. That would not be me in that situation. Hell no.

That's actually a great point. If you had courtside money, I would be at a Nets-Bucks game way before I be at a Laker game. Just straight in that boy nice mode all fucking game. That's it, bro. Hoping on TVN Airlines to the East Coast. Straight soccer mom with it. I just hope both teams have fun tonight. You know what I'm like that.

I'm not spending thousands of dollars to get pissed off, man. Hell, no. I never thought about that. Imagine you grew up in Southern California. You waited your whole life. You go to a courtside Lakers game. LeBron is playing and the fucking sons beat you by 90 points. Like, that was it.

That was my one game. LeBron probably gave you 40 in that game, though. So you got something out of it. You know what I mean? That may have been going brazy. Yeah, let's talk about, uh, let's talk about friendship in a professional setting. Let's talk about LeBron turning the corner, looking at the basket, and seeing one of his oldest friends in the league, Kevin Love, standing there.

Just absolutely. You couldn't Euro step for the homie and do the little reverse. No. He saw food and he's a motherfucking predator, okay? That man tried to take a charge like he ain't played with Bron on them damn years. He knew what was going to happen. It looked like at one point he realized, oh, yeah, this is Bronn. Too late, Bubba.

He already looking in the real. And you're looking at nuts. Enjoy being a meme. Yeah. Kevin Love should have known what was coming, man. I mean, defensive stalwart. Kevin Love, who locked up a game seven, should have known better.

His fucking instinct should have been more on point for that. But can't win them all, I guess. I actually think his instincts were sharp because I think they both turned and saw each other. at the same moment. And I think in that moment, Kevin Love did the respectable thing because he was like,

well, he got caught in no man's land. He's too far out, manned up to like turn around and run away. You know what I mean? But he's like, I'm for sure not jumping. And I'm for sure not trying to like get crossed up and be falling on my ass or some shit. Let me just softly stand here

and then propel myself as far out of the way. Yeah, I don't even think. I don't even think he was trying to draw the charge. I just think he was trying to get the hell out of the way. Like, Brian was so up there, you know, you know what I'm saying? He was eye level with the dick, and he was like, oh, hell, man. Let me get him out of here. And he just rolled over.

He did not want the cock eye jamming, you know what I'm saying. I think that's what that was about. That's a penis. I'm not trying to get my eye poked out out here, bro. Bro, I think, I think as a dude who's played basketball, people who are much more athletic than me, dog, it's never too, you're never too far out to run away. Well, there's always a chance to run.

Okay. I've been in there with some trees accidentally and had to get the hell out the way. He could have got out the way. You know what I mean? He got, I mean, he got roasted plenty for getting dumped on anyway. But if you're in the NBA, like he would have had to have physically turned his back. What they're going to say is business decision. That's the worst one.

He made a business. And it wasn't, bro, come on. He got, he got family. watching dog you don't want i think he man i think the soft charge i think that's the business decision because he could have been it could have been a lot worse than it ended up being bro he's he's only taking a 48 hour break from being lebron's it's never worth it okay nobody i don't care who it is they coming down you don't take a charge in the NBA you sees the freaks of nature every day that exists that charge bro you just setting yourself up to be a poster on the on the wrong end you

feel me? Who's what, like, as, as athletic as all these players are, there's, there's like four people that are going to jump over this man. And Bron is definitely not one of those four people, okay? You know what I'm saying? I just love that it was like, uh, it was like some mafia shit when they asked LeBron after the game afterwards. He was like, I turned the corner and I looked up and I said, ah, I hate it had to be Kevin. It had to be you, Bubba. You broke my heart, Fredo. You broke my heart It's not my fault It's the universe

They set you up I'm just doing what I'm supposed to do Bubble You know what I mean I'm doing brine shit So I loved it What a crazy sport That you could end up

With your friend's dick Getting you in the fucking nose And then he's joking With him after the game Like my man ain't rubbed His phallus cross his face He's like I'm not talking to him for 48 hours

I wouldn't talk to him for four years If he did me like that What you mean Sheesh It's crazy Nightmare Nightmare fuel right there, gee Yeah, for real

Let's talk about Did you guys see the Zion clip That surfaced last night? Very interesting Very intriguing The Pelican saying You know, is shut down And then a video comes out of him

On what looked like a The NBA teams have like springy floors In their practice gym Did you notice that? Watch the video again Springs under the motherfucking floor wood. Yeah. The paint like...

They look like it warped. Yeah. That's because he's 480 pounds. And he's jumping. That's a lot of force coming off that ground. I don't, I mean, if he's... Bro, we saw this man put his finger imprints on a basketball. You know what I'm saying?

This is the fucking incredible Hulk, dude. You feel me? Maybe, yeah. I mean, you should shit, you might be right, but that's crazy if he's really, if the Wood is moving out of his way. Like, whoa. I'm Zion. No, I mean, that's a lot.

He wasn't, really 280. And that explosion, I think it might, you know, warp some things. I don't, bro, like, I'm sending you, I'm sending you the video right now. You can read him. But what did you think of that video, you know, coming out? I mean, he looks, you know, he looks, he looks healthy. Yeah, it's, it's, you know, like I've been saying, what, I don't know why we're writing off a fucking 21-year-old who's, you know,

coming back from an injury like it's the fucking end of the world, I think he's going to be just fine. And just because he looks good in this video, I completely understand the Pelican saying, hell no, you're not playing this season for what? You know what I'm saying? We're going to get you back. You know, we're going to have some more time for the rehab.

We're going to get you back at the top of the season next year. We're not going to throw you out there where everybody's fucking hungry now and everybody's playing hard and everybody's chasing playoff seeds. No, we're going to rest your ass get some more rehab in and get you in at the top of next season. So I'm totally fine with that. I don't think this. Keep that diet up.

Yeah, I don't think, you know, people are saying, well this must be some some riff between the pelicans his eye and pelicans saying he can't go he looks like he can go no it's the smart fucking thing to do to send him for the rest of the season you can't tell if a guy can go off one dump yeah you know what i mean like you know it's an amazing dump there's a lot more that goes into playing basketball lateral movement explosions and all that stuff you know and being he's been injury prone you know for a certain whatever reason yeah you know be safe but yeah the dunk look great but that's not basketball that's a dump you know i mean yeah look I just texted you both the video. Look at the... I love my phone, geez. Look at the pain. Okay. All right.

You don't have to check it after. I'm tripping. Tripping. Wow. Unreal. He had to... Come on, man. You got the...

You got the... You got the amino acid drink, though. Shut up, man. Amino. I was hoping tired of notice. I was hoping. I was hoping. I was hoping.

Shee. We know you're not drinking pink lemonade at fucking A-da. Oh, no. I'm not drinking pink lemonade, period. Too much sugar. Okay, let's talk about the The fish sandwich ad heard around the world I'm genuinely curious for your guys take on this bro

Push-a-Tee doing an Arby's ad Your thought Tyler, your thoughts Well, you know I'm a push-a-tee stand Aficionado, you're a professional You're a push-a-tee professional, Jiz It's that Virginia shit, man That's one of the ones for real for you You know I'm an Arby stand as well

But you know what I'm gonna tell you I'm not with the Arby's fist sandwich shit because it's like bro like I I fuck with Arby's because I think that people were down playing the roast beef and the french dip shit I think they do that shit great if I want a fish sandwich I am not going to fucking You know what I'm saying? Like there's a spot of Richmond called the Scripps shack. I'm not mispronouncing it, S-K-R-I-M-P, that has the best fucking fish sandwich in the city of my opinion. So that's why I'll go when I want a fish sandwich. But, you know, yeah, yeah.

But, you know, I appreciate, you know, the real rap bars in a fucking fish sandwich fast food beat because why the fuck not, man? Just get ridiculous with shit. You know, I'm all for being ridiculous. I love Pushing T, not as much as Tyler, obviously. But I love Arby's too There's no way I'm trying that

That shit didn't even look seasoned well And I'm gonna be honest I haven't eaten I haven't eaten fucking McDonald's in probably like 12 15 years or some shit But the fish fillet used to go crazy Okay That's not the one to go with you know what I mean Like that's not that you ain't gonna You ain't gonna tell me that your fish filet sandwich is better than that one

That's the best thing One of the best things McDonald's ever made If not the best thing so What's funny though is like I look y'all were talking talking about he made the I'm loving it Mickey D's joint I did some research in that he didn't actually write that part he did have a hook in there he got paid 500k for that and McDonald's spent $3.6 billion on marketing so when he wrote this jingle well he wrote Arby's we have the meats

he wrote that shit and he got he gets 40% of what they make off of that jingle or some shit And then he has this one as well. So Push-a-T got the fast-food jingle business in a headlock right now. Good for him, bro. Good business, man. That's why he don't make music a lot. You feel me? He's getting that other bread, you know what I'm saying?

He wrote, bum-bum-bum-bum-bomb-bomb. He has a track on that beat, on that Arby's beat. I did not realize. I did not know that he had written both jingles on And he did residuals because McDonald's hit him for the $500K and they spent $3.6 billion on marketing in that one year and they used that jingle for 10 years. And he was like, bro, that's the biggest L he ever took. That's crazy.

That's a, when you take a big L and you just only get half a million out of it, God damn. I was about to say, I could use some Ls like that, bro. For sure. But as regular as we are, and we saw the $3.6 billion and we got $500,000. Tyler, I know you specifically, but oh, hell no. Never again. I appreciate this $500,000. It's half a meal, but never again.

Everything's about an hourly rate for me. So if I, I'm fair, I don't do work for other people that I don't own at this point, which is nice. But like, if I, if, how long do you think he spent on the song? If I spent a day on something and made $500,000 off of it, if someone make $10 billion over it, that's cool for me. No, no, not me. I made $100,000. If I made $100,000.

If I made $100,000 per hour and I was not laying down asphalt on a fucking road somewhere in New Jersey. They're not paying for the hourly rate. They're paying because you're pushing a T. You know what I mean? Is that true? Because I didn't know that that was him. Did they put him out in front of that? They created it.

It was a wild marketing scheme where they made a song called I'm loving it with Timberlake. You know what I'm saying? And to get people to get it in culture. And it got to like the top 100 and all of that. And then they made a song with Pusha T with Carl I'm Loving It too. And he only got $500K for that. Like, dog, you're using his name to help to build that up before you do the campaign. And you spent $3.6.

I thought it was just like the Arby's thing. It's just like you're just doing jingles. No, you use his name because he's Pusha T and you got to pay for like whatever years he put in a building his name up too. So $500K ain't shit for that, man. You know what I'm saying? McDonald's really hopped out there back in like the early 2000s and really went to the gutter to find rappers to do their shit.

Like, I don't know if y'all were hip to Bump J. Um, he had that move around track. I remember, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And fucking McDonald's used that. And Bump Jays like a Chicago motherfucker who, who did like just did a 10 year bid for like moving dope and shit. You know what I'm saying?

And he was doing McDonald's jingles. So they was in the trenches in the early 2000s for whatever reason, bro. I mean, you know, we remember the, um, the commercials when they had niggas dancing and stuff in there, bro. They was, they was, they was, Hey, that McNock and doing the

And shit, bro. I'm like, they went crazy back there. McDonald's was 20 years ahead of the rest of corporate America. I'm trying to steal the culture. Or monetize the culture. You know, that's why they're number one, baby.

What is it? A trillion burgers sold at this point? Jesus Christ. Something crazy. They sold a fair amount to my family. I'll tell you that. Well, I can't eat it, right? I flew too close to the sun.

that steak burrito, steak and egg burrito. Back in like, man, I was to go into church, so it got to be like, 50. It was a minute ago. Having kids is reintroduced McDonald's fries and nuggets to my life. I was like, you, I was off of it for quite some time. And then the kids is like, they got the Disney Pixar contract, bro. Like, you know what I mean?

I can take you to Wendy's and they'll give you four crayons and a fucking wrinkled up something to color on or we go to McDonald's and they give you fucking, whatever your favorite movie is right now, they're giving you that. And you're the best dad in the world to your kids. So McDonald's, it is. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is, man.

The game is a game, and it's rigged, and they rigged it well, and good for them. And I rigged it on my behalf, too, because it's only $1 more than going on Wendy's, and I'm the best dad in the world, and that is worth a dollar. Damn right. I'll give you actually, this brings to mind the worst story I know of, of, like, working on a freelance contract and not getting anything off the back end. everyone who worked at Disney had it the worst, right? Like, you've heard all those stories that, like, the person who wrote the,

the person who wrote Aladdin made, like, whatever their hourly rate was at Disney, and that's it. And when they read it, when they're doing the live action adaptation, they were trying to not pay those people again, which is fucking, which is a wild. They're like, we already bought the script. Wow. It's crazy. But the craziest one I've ever come across in my work is there was a dude from Long Beach.

We went to Wilson High School here. worked for the NFL. We actually have a lot of Long Beach people who kind of worked for the NFL, but he worked in their marketing and graphics department in like the 60s or some shit. And at that time, it was like everything was done in-house and it was one company. So when the Buffalo Bills wanted their new logo, they went to the NFL and they said, we need a new logo. So this dude from Long Beach who was making, I think he said it was like 725 an hour, just in one afternoon made the Buffalo Bills logo that they're still using today with the bill. and then the red and the blue thing.

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And it is like the fourth longest continuously. used logo in American sports. I got to get it in blood, gee. I got to get mine in blood, G. Bro, I'm sorry. Somebody, I'm getting my bread or somebody coming up missing. One of the two dogs.

That's a, that's an L. I just can't abide with. You know what I'm saying? I can't sit aside and let that go. That's wild. 40 bucks? 40 bucks? Just punch the clock. Punch the clock. You can't even get a meal from cheesecake factory with 40.

he might get two slices of cheese cake right they paid him two chisliced the cheesecake and a decent tip you know what I mean he did he did he ended up doing quite well for himself but I did a story about him about the bills thing no for sure for well it was interesting interviewing him so I did a story about him because someone had told me this Long Beach dude did the bills logo he and his wife retired they both lived in Long Beach after they retired and I was just asking him just because I'm a freelance I've been a freelancer since I was a kid like hey, what did you get paid for this? And he's like, funny story.

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call 1-800 next step. Okay. I want to just say officially we talked about the possibility of canceling Netflix a couple weeks ago and I want to say I am doing it and the reason is the following line

from an upcoming Jeff Foxworthy stand-up special on Netflix. I played every sport And it was weird back then If you wanted a trophy You had to finish in first place You're charging me $20 a month for this For Jeff Foxworthy stand-up specials

In 1998 participation trophy jokes Come on man What the fuck And what's wild is the actual Netflix Netflix account plug that shit Like yeah, this is some heat right here I'm the motherfucker what? This won

Yeah I didn't like Jeff Foxworth when he was Jeff Foxworthy when he was popping. Now you giving me him in 2022 and up in the price. I'm sorry. I'm binging. I'm binging. Like, what is it?

Uh, uh, the, the, the drug shit in Missouri. I'm binging that shit. Yeah. What's that? Oh, Ozark. I'm, I'm binging Ozark and I'm shaking.

This is the last weekend I'm having Netflix for sure. I'm not spending money. I'm not spending $20 a month on that shit. Hell no. That's disrespectful. Yeah. That's what I'm about say. It's all about the disrespect.

Just like Netflix. It's just. Right. And the whole cracking down on fucking, you know, pass code sharing and shit. Like, who the fuck do y'all think y'all are, man? Right. You know what I'm saying? Y'all are going to make me take my little $20 a month just to spite y'all motherfuckers.

Because I do not like people talking to me like that. Fuck y'all, man. It's the principle that I have the $20 a month. I just don't want to give it to you. Also, why is there a, why are people lying? I got trophies for just being on teams. You get the, like there was, you got a trophy for just making it through the season. Then you got the like the offensive trophy trophy and the defensive trophy.

You know what I'm saying? Like, they're old. He's the age of our, he's the age of our parents. But he's old. He's like, he's old. But the thing is they're acting like this is a new thing. So I'm, bro, I'm old. If it's been going on since I was a kid, it's been going on for a minute.

Why is this thing that's been talking about the last 10 years? You know what I mean? 40 fucking years. I don't know and I also don't understand the coaches who are giving me participation trophies graduated high school with Jeff Foxworthy. Right. Like, your generation ordered the participants. Yeah, we were holding bake sales to buy ourselves participation trophies.

You just, they just handed them to you the end of the year, bro. And like I've said, you know, Jeff Foxworthy, he's the, you might be a redneck guy. So, you know, his base is redneck as he's admitted himself. And if that, like I've said before, if that crowd is anti-participation trophy, Y'all got to explain why y'all loves the Confederate statues so damn much. Because those are the biggest fucking participation trophies that exist in the world for a bunch of fucking losers who got their ass beat. You know what I'm saying? Y'all anti-participation troveys.

But when we wanted to take the participation trophy of Robert E. Lee down, you know, in downtown motherfuckers were crying. And no, what if you can't erase history? They got their ass whooped at the crib. You lost the war at home. Home court. You lost a war on your block. Homefield.

Sherman came to and burn that bitch down. Y'all ain't do shit. And now y'all cry about participation trophies, man. Fuck y'all. All right. Yeah. Fuck Netflix. I'm upset about this, bro.

Because I always liked Netflix. It was like, ooh, they're, you know, they're changed. Like, this was our generations. Like, they're changing the fucking game.

I miss Blockbuster like a motherfucker. Yeah. Netflix. And that was like, you're serving me, Jeff Foxworthy. It's a timing, too. It's a timing.

They just told us they going up in March and they give us this. So this is who you paying with this extra bread. So we can get more of this. I'm sorry, bro. Not here for it. Not here for it. Fuck that. Can't do it.

John, you and I are having a similar dilemma right now, which is your wife is out of town. My wife had to work last night, which means we both did not watch the new Abbott Elementary. To save the marriage. Is this not the most modern relationship? shit, dilemma shit ever other than not being able to buy a house or something. Like, every married

couple I know has this shit where it's like, no, you've got to wait to watch that. It's like, I don't want to wait to watch it. I have it right now. I told Rother, Quinta herself had to hit me up to prevent me from watching it. And she did. She said, oh my God.

No, stay together, please. I'm like, damn. Oh, my God. So, yeah. It's funny, though. It's cool. It's cool. It'll be more fun watching her anyway, honestly.

It was a great episode. I'll just leave it at that. That's like, Tyler, come on, rub it in. It was a good, fucking show. It's a perfect show.

Yes. My favorite show on cable television now. Like I said, if you can pull off wholesome comedy like they do, like that takes talent, bro. Hard. For real.

Hard. Yeah. Rather pulled out the scoporuni on you. She said, bro. I didn't even get to see the tweet yet. She's sitting. me to tweet like, the sanctity of our marriage depends on you not watching this. Okay. And I posted like, might be worth it. Quince was like, not worth it. It's great. This is my show and it's not

worth it, bro. No. All right. Before we get out of here, let's talk about winning time. We've got another psycho on the board with Pat Riley. I continue to just love. I I could, like, mute the show and just watch it and just enjoy the way it looks. It is, it's so beautiful. But Adrian Brody doing Pat Riley is, like, so much fun. I can't believe they put Chick-Hern out there like that with the quote. We need to talk about chick-Hern. Is he low-key races?

Because, you know what I'm saying? When they were talking about going after, who was it? They were talking about going after. Felton Spencer, I think it was. And he was like, I don't know. He's with that pro-African stuff. You remember that little quote? Yeah.

And then the shit he said last episode, like, bro. Let me put it like this. I feel like every white dude who likes the Lakers is like, oh, this Jerry West shit's hilarious. He's being soft as fuck. And then when the Chick Hearn shit has been on TV, we're like, well, it's just a TV show. It's just like a caricature.

Right. The fuck. That's crazy. Yeah, because Chick Hearn is like, if you grew up in Southern California, man, he's like, he is a Laker. Like, he has a statue out. side of Staples Center right next to

Shaq and fucking Karim and Kobe bro. That's crazy. You can sit next to Chick-Hern's statue at the desk and take a picture with him. He's out here saying he's with the pro-hapagin stuff on the show. Like, oh, shit.

What did he say last episode? He called someone he said some shit about gorillas or some shit like that, I think. And he used the bad F-sler with Adrian and Brody last. He said your voice is happy. And then he said some shit about something. about gorillas, I think. I got to rewatch that shit because I was

Zooted as I was. Yeah, I might have missed that. Yeah. But yeah, the fucking chickharns, the low-key bigot. Who would have seen that coming? But, hey. White people in the 70s, bro, like, I guess that's the lesson is like, it's just all the, I mean, Jerry Buss, they're making, Jerry West and Jerry Buss, they're making them look bad in a particular way, but I'm sure they're not, you know, Jerry Buss, like, he's at the Playboy Mansion. We don't really feel great about

the Playboy Mansion in 2022. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's some shit, bro. But they're not shying away from some of it. I'm sure they're shying away from some other stuff. But they have everyone running so scared that this week, magic and Jeannie Bus are both talking about they have their own documentaries about themselves coming out.

I would know. I love magic so motherfucking much. Like any time I highlight real floats down my timeline, I'm checking it out. I do not want to see a magic produced documentary on magic. That is going to be fucking a fluff piece Disney Pixar ass. Give me the real magic. Give me the dickhead who was out here, you know,

body and, you know, his ex-boyfriend and pick up his shit. Give me the real fucking magic, bro. I'm going to be honest with y'all. I watched that with Ruther, so I couldn't watch it this episode either. I'm going to tell her you fucking up my money, babe. Like, we got to come to agreement or something. If we're talking about it on the pot, I at least got to be able to watch it.

So, yeah, I didn't get to see that either. Okay. But I will say, you know, I am learning shit here. Like I thought that this was just going to be kind of, you know, you know, just, you know, a fucking production of shit I already knew. But I had no idea that fucking they had Jerry Tark, you know, handshake deal to get him to coach. I had no idea about that.

We're going to see how it falls apart, obviously, next episode probably. But that's, that was news to me for sure. John, take your headphones off real quick. No, I don't care, though. Okay. The crazy thing about Tark is, so, you know, he coached at Long Beach State before he went out to UNOV. Long Beach States were the stuff with the NCAA really happened.

And so the joke at Long Beach State in the 70s was the NCAA got so mad at UCLA, they turned around and punched Long Beach State, right? They were mad about all the illegal recruiting and shit that John Wooden was doing. So when they found a way to get Tark on the same shit, they really came down with a hammer on some sanctions and shit. So the rumor was, I'll call it a rumor for politics sake on the show.

Jerry Tarkhanian walked into a particular bar that still exists in Long Beach, and the people who were the money behind Long Beach State dumped cash out on the table when he was going to go to UNLV. They dumped a lot of cash out on the table. And he looked at the money on the table, laughed, and said to them, you're not even in the same room right now. God damn. God damn.

And the stories that they're apparently going all the way in on telling his story in Vegas tells you what the money that he was looking at in Vegas was. Because that was a crazy shit to see in a basketball show. This is an HBO show like a motherfucker. Wait, John Wooden, who everybody talks about as like, you know, rule follower Wooden and all this shit, right? Was illegally recruiting? John Wooden had a money guy. I wish people would shut the fuck up. It's just so wild hearing stuff like that.

I didn't know that. Oh, we can get into that. I don't, there is no such thing as a clean recruiter in coaching. I, I mean, that makes sense. That makes sense to me, but they present these people as if, like, this is like, you know what I mean? This was the guy that everybody should follow due to how, you know, Disney rated G he was and everything he did.

You know what I'm saying? like um i'm trying to i'm trying to i'm sam gilbert was was john wooden's uh money guy uh acknowledged is his please please throw that in the group chat please i'm gonna i want to i want to do my own research here's here's here here's here's here's here's here's his wiki sam gilbert was an american businessman who owned a construction company in los angeles california he is best known as a controversial athletic booster of the ucLA bruin men's basketball team from the mid-1960s until ucLA was ordered to disassociate from him in 1981. He ran a money laundering enterprise to finance the now famous world poker tour.

This is fucking crazy. Are there docs about this or something? Because I've never heard about this side of John Wooden. So at Long Beach State, because Long Beach State and UCLA were like here with each other at the start of John Wooden's run. So there is an enduring bitterness about this shit that when they caught Targ doing the literally the exact same stuff that John Wooden and UCLA were doing. They basically gave Long Beach State the death penalty. UCLA was the Golden Goose.

So it was like, oh, you just don't talk to that dude anymore. You know what I mean? Whereas for Long Beach State it was like, you can't play basketball in the NCAA tournament for three years or whatever, you know? When at that time, they were, you know, Sweet 16 team. Like they were losing to UCLA on buzzer beaded and shit. Right, right, right. Yeah, there's no, like Tyler said, there's no cleanliness anywhere at any level.

But, and I do continue to enjoy this about winning time, there was a different attitude around sports. Like, I love this, the clip of Pat Riley. He's depressed so he goes and plays basketball. Like, you cannot picture anyone involved in the NBA at this point being depressed about something and playing basketball on the beach. You know what I mean? Not the coaches, not the players. Like, the world is stratified in a different way that, like, I just love seeing these like desperate, nasty. dudes in the 1970s where basketball was like going to the gym or anything we would do now. You know what I mean? They're just like, I'm going to go get busted in the fucking nose playing basketball as my way of coping with something.

Right, right. Fucking Pat Riley was out there living in a goddamn trailer, fucking boat like fucking Mel Gibson, Elitheleton and shit. I was like, what the fuck is? I'm like Pat Pat Riley out here scrambling, dog. This motherfucker fucking living like what, Mertog or whatever the fuck? Like, God damn. that's fucking perfect that's great and i don't know john i don't know if you're having this experience

with rod the shark knows the names but she does not know the story yeah i like i paused it midway through and i looked at i was like you know who pat riley is and she's like i'm familiar with the name and i was like but you don't know who he's going to be in the context of this show and she was like no i was like that's perfect like what a great way to go through all that shit i'm i'm kind of jealous of her just like she didn't know any of the guy she didn't know you know she didn't know you know she didn't know red hourbock or any of that shit so she's so tapped in on that like they're doing a great job of bringing non-basketball diehard people into this show i feel like this might as well be fiction rather bro this might as well be fucking harry pottergy she has no idea who any of these people

are for her job she's talking to like Swedish government shit bro she's so detached what the fuck i'd be talking about bro you feel me so no but she loves it she thinks it's beautiful And she like, you know, so she knows who magic is. She knows those names. You know what I mean? So for sure. For sure, for sure. She, yeah.

All right. I'll make another joke, but I'll just let you hear the joke for yourself the first time on the show. Okay. All right. That's all the time we got for this week. Thanks for tapping in. We'll be back on Monday with some more this and that. What the fuck was that?

Some more this and that. Somebody. Somebody left us a negative review on Apple podcast. You read the comments? No, no, no, no. A friend of mine who listens to the show, screenshot it and sent it to me. It was like, I know this is a negative review, but he's like, I feel like it's a great description of the show. The review was just too much this and that.

Sorry, one star. I was like, that's the podcast. You came to the wrong place. You came to the wrong place. You're right. You're correct. There's a lot of this and that. There's a whole bunch of this and that. You guys want to end the show with the voicemail?

Yeah. Let's go. Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, here we go. Well, Goddown. I'm going to have to call back because I'm not even sure exactly what to say, but I'm going to come up with something in the next few minutes, and I'm going to give you motherfuckers a call and spit it out. All right, niggas. Got down. I hang this shit up. Some bullshit.

He gave us a voicemail on this though he was going to call back and give us another voicemails out of the fucking seven. Bro, was high as hell. He couldn't figure out how to hang up either. It was honestly the most like Jenkins and Jones-ass shit

I've ever heard. These are the only type of fucking voicemails we want right here, bro. Well, God damn. Well, God damn. I guess I'm here. I forgot what I was supposed to say. I'm going to hit y'all back and tell you,

though. Guess what? Never called back. Of course he did. Your motherfucker took a weed hat for calling it a day. I appreciate the love, though, for show. Oh, that's perfect. Perfect introduction to the voicemail.

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