The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - 112 & Total on joint tour, Biggie & Bad Boy stories, Diddy fallout & modern R&B
Episode Date: December 23, 2025Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by legendary R&B groups 112 and Total, who have teamed up for a joint tour to celebrate 30 years of 112. Joe and Jada ask about their heyday coming up in the '90s o...n Bad Boy Records, their experiences working alongside The Notorious B.I.G., what the fallout has been like for them after the allegations, lawsuit, and conviction of Sean "Diddy" Combs, and how they were influenced by other R&B and soul icons like New Edition, Mary J. Blige, Boyz II Men, Whitney Houston, and more. They also discuss Jada being with Biggie Smalls when he first heard Tupac's "Hit 'Em Up" diss record, how social media has affected modern relationships, and how hip hop and R&B treats its older legends compared to genres like rock music. 5:00 - Working with Biggie 9:30 - Putting together 30th anniversary joint tour 17:00 - Paying taxes humbled Joe BAD 19:00 - Playing back-to-back shows & tour life now vs. back then 33:00 - Social media & modern relationships 38:30 - Raising daughters after experiences in music industry 42:00 - How rap & R&B treat their older legends 53:30 - Fallout after Diddy controversies 1:03:00 - Influences & all-time R&B groups 1:06:30 - How Slim became the frontman of 112 1:11:00 - Joe wishes he was an R&B singer [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So what I'm trying to tell y'all is this,
whether y'all don't know it,
anytime your music come on,
this shit is legendary.
Oh, yeah.
Every fucking time.
Every time.
Every time.
Every time your shit, come on.
And they can't take that from you.
What up, y'all?
Joe Crack, the biggest in the game.
What's up, y'all?
It's your boy, Jady Kiss.
You know what it is?
The Joe and Jada show.
Every show legendary.
Every show iconic.
And we never let you damn.
Today's guest, plural.
dynamic groups.
When you think of synergy,
when you think of chemistry,
when you think of camaraderie,
when you think a hit makers,
when you think of arena shakers,
when you think
good individuals
that are able to
overcome diversity, deal
with the ups, deal with the downs.
Get rich. Get richer.
Go through hard times.
You get it again. Get even richer than
richer.
30 plus years in the game.
Good skin.
I mean, that's important.
Ladies and gentlemen,
let's make some noise for Mike, slam,
Keisha and Kim on 112 in total.
Nobody got better intros than me.
That's why.
No.
That was the best fluff.
You got the hand in, yeah, this is what I do.
That's weird.
That's far.
My family.
30 plus years, you're going on tour, you're moving around,
you're looking beautiful, telling people what to expect?
Ladies, Johnstone.
You know, you don't expect that energy, like he said,
that synergy, that iconic representation of our hits.
The tour is crazy.
And listen, so happy for our brothers
and just blessed to be a part of this movement for them,
giving them their flowers 30 years of great music.
this is their first headline sport once we're gonna get them their flowers y'all and um just so honored that our brothers would tap us on the shoulders and say y'all got to take this journey with us and like you just said jada to be able to come back and do this again and again 30 years and people still supporting our music and just showing up for us you know what I mean so we got those classic records bangers we can't explain they know what it is
Yeah.
Y'all got that legendary music.
It feels good.
There's no way to explain this shit.
It's like, yo, that shit, come on.
It is what it is.
Yeah.
Then you had the BIG all over your music, the greatest ever.
Yes.
At the time, you just like, all right, we got Biggie.
Now you know, you got some historic shit on your hands.
You know what I mean?
Whenever that music comes, what was it like working with Biggie in that day?
Man, well, you know.
Both of y'all.
Man, yeah.
Working with Biggie, that was our biggest, it's like our big brother, man.
He would give you the share off his back.
You know, when 112, we moved to New York City, you know,
a big shout out to Junior Murphy and Faith Evans, man, you know what I'm saying?
Like time we got there, they embraced us as family.
Even when Big was doing his promo for Ready to Die, man, he would bring us with him.
You know what I'm saying?
Faith was in one ride.
Big was in the other.
And we were following around and we learned a lot of jewels, man.
So with them, I got different stories for them that they don't know about it.
Can I any stories, man?
Because it's usually me.
I'm ever meeting big was that they video shoot in Central Park.
It was one degree.
Oh, my goodness.
The coldest winter.
It's the world of this day of I ever experience.
It was a very cold.
You're trying to stay warm.
Is you be bringing us?
We mean big puff.
They shoot in the video.
that white shit on and freezing them.
So I'm like, yo,
this is like the greatest time
in the worst time of our life
at the same time.
So our first time
meeting big was at their video
shooting Central Park.
Then another one of their videos
was it kissing you remix?
Oh, yeah.
We got a pause.
We had a party.
We in Long Island.
Big bad boy picnic.
Bufcgolets and Versacee silk shirts
and all of them.
Sweat.
That's also.
the first time Big heard hit him up.
Somebody delinied them
the thing. And he, you know what I'm saying? I heard
I listened to it when he listened to it. He wasn't even mad. He was just really
mad about whatever he said about Seas and Kim, but it wasn't.
He would have thought he had smoke coming out of the evening.
I mean, I ain't like that he said that about. You know what's crazy as I was at
Harlem, right? This biggie's on top of the world.
He's performing at the state building. He got that blue polo shirt.
on.
Came across the street.
And sneaker store.
So I'm out there, right?
In the crowd.
And the dude walked by me in Harlem with a boombox this big.
First off, fuck your bitch.
And the kick you came.
I was like, I'm looking at Biggie Smalls on stage.
The first time I heard that record.
And the dude walked by with the boombox.
And what was bugging me out because it was, the beef was real territory.
It was like, either you from New York or you from.
LA. And this is a guy
from Harlem. I felt
like God did that to me. He just walked
by and I knew this shit wasn't going right.
The energy wasn't right.
I said, damn.
And then pounded him out of ledge?
No, he was across the street. He was just walking.
I just happened to be across the street.
He was just playing his favorite rapper.
But I was surprised that he was
bumping that while this was
going on.
You know, of course, guys like to get their ass
with, too. They come too close. They get
they asked me.
You know what I'm saying?
But, you know, I want to tell you,
I was on verses,
and I'm into it with Jaru,
and I said something that came out,
Miss Gristrood,
your sister had came out,
and I didn't even know,
hold up.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
That's my girl.
I didn't even know she was backstage.
He could have brought J-Lo out
and Mary Jay.
I didn't know.
I was just in the middle of the shit
and they ran with it,
but I salute your sister.
I told her sorry 1,000 times.
I'll tell you the same thing.
You know what I'm saying?
That's me.
That's no way.
That's no way.
Yeah.
I thought I was going to have to pull these out real quick.
Oh, you said.
Oh, yeah.
What the fuck?
You know, when you say something nice,
you take the flag back.
We got to give you an extra five right now
when you say something.
You know,
we take the shit back.
Take it back.
But who thought of this,
and this was a no-brainer?
This should have been happening.
No-brainer.
Is it like timing
where you just say,
y'all, let's come together,
let's do this?
Or who thought of putting y'all together like that?
Yeah, it was definitely a timing thing.
You know what I mean?
It was like 30 years.
They had 30 years.
Case had 30.
Big shout out to Case too.
Case on the tour, too.
Case on the tour, yeah.
Case opened that shit up.
You know what I mean?
So.
Oh, hey, sir.
Yeah.
So, I'm dead at a night, baby.
30 years.
I'm told him 30 years.
I'm not to buy.
I'm going there.
Yeah.
I'm buying a ticket.
We know.
No, y'all don't know.
Buy tickets, bro.
Come and get out of here.
No, I just told them I'm sneaking into brandy and on Monaco on purpose.
Like, I'm not buying a ticket.
I'm sneaking in.
You want them guys be in the back?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm like me plus three.
I'm going.
No, we don't.
I'm rushing the show.
We don't.
I got to go.
We don't buy tickets, bro.
We don't.
All right, yo, you got a problem if you ain't right.
Stick close.
I'm bum brushing.
I said, move.
You're good.
You're good.
You're good.
You're good.
I only want to go through, yo, who got the tickets?
Who did?
Nah, I'm going in.
Now, y'all good.
You know, you're going to stop.
Y'all good.
But, yeah, that was, you know, pretty much an idea that, like, Slim and I wanted to do something really special.
And we wanted to bring back that 90s nostalgia.
You know what I mean?
So we're also managed by the same, you know, group.
And we were like, yo, aside from that, I know Keith said earlier, you know, she wanted to give
112 their flowers, but we also wanted to get total their flowers as well because they have
been so influential not only in just music, but just in fashion and just how a woman is, it's
supposed to, you know, be, you know, like a queen is supposed to be in this industry and beyond,
man. So they just epitomize what that means, man. So, you know, what better way for us to show that
then to just have them out there
and then give them their flowers as well.
Like, they're sisters for real.
Like, I'll give you a story.
Like, I know Kima get tired of me telling this same story.
So I used to smoke cigarettes and shit, right?
So, so.
Fucked up.
Yeah.
So this is when I was up.
They're going to flag, guys.
Oh, shit, they didn't give me no flag.
Wee.
Yeah.
I thought it was you back.
How are you going to do that?
No, I was it.
The garden.
So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, she would take the, she would take
So we had a show,
pow.
So we had a show with Total.
And I was outside already hitting the square, right?
So, you know, I'm on the block, whatever,
hitting the square, boom-woo.
She comes out, like, her motto is, she fight niggins.
All right?
So that's her model anyway.
She's fighting it?
She fight niggas.
You know, that's off the rip.
That's such shit.
You know what I mean?
So I'm out of stalking.
So I'm hitting the square boom-woo.
She come out of the van.
I was like, yo, sis, what's happening?
Bam!
Smack the shit right out of my hand.
Like, no.
first off the real
like blah
from that point on
from that point on
with no more cigarettes
so
yeah that was yeah
so yeah
that's real love
tough love
so yeah
that's real love
tough love
that was the smartest
shit ever happened to you
absolutely
you know with cigarettes
you know
both my parents
just passed away
and it was all
a product of
smoking cigarettes
and my mom's caught
cancer early
one thing I could tell you
is bullshit that you can't quit.
As soon as my mother
smoked found cancer,
my father quit, same damn.
They used to smoke four packs.
They were done, right?
But the damage is done.
The shit is a slow leaker.
It's like you got a slow flat.
10 years later, 20 years later,
they got that CPOD with, you know,
your lungs get water and all that.
The cigarette shit,
first of all, you are old niggas smoking the cigarette right now.
Right.
If you're in front of a building
smoking a cigarette,
know your age.
You're done.
Like, they know y'all, this guy.
It's a fossil.
How he's smoking the cigarette.
They were smoking the shit.
But she did the right thing for you.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, Keisha, we all felt like you got rich
and just sailed off to the sunset.
Flag.
Yeah.
Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
Get him!
Y'all just
with you been.
Thanks.
She married a superstar.
She's like, I felt like, yo, you ain't need this money no more.
I felt like, yo, you know, I get jealous of people who can retire.
I can't retire.
So we you're about to do a shoot at.
Right.
Yo, give me one of those.
I read, if you will, reconnected with my king.
And being in the industry, it was a really crucial time when it was just my spirit.
wasn't working right with my spirit.
And when Omar and I reconnected,
he was in L.A.
I had just shortly moved to Smyrna, Georgia.
And our plan was, we're not going to let this go.
To where Smyrna, Georgia?
Spirner, yes, man.
I've been there.
I've been everywhere.
No, it's Carl County.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he was living in L.A.
And our plan was to never not realize the blessing of each other,
the presence of each other.
we wanted to start our family.
And for him, he said,
I want you to do what your heart desire is
and living in L.A.
Seeing kind of how people move,
I didn't want our kids to grow up like empty.
So that was my choice.
When the Hollywood part of L.A.,
like the Beverly Hills and all that.
No, we're in the cut.
Yeah, but I'm saying, that's what you're saying.
Like you want them to have culture.
Yeah.
Sierra came in and she lives here now,
because her husband's the thing.
She said she'd take them to the bodega,
let them hear the old man argue with the man behind the bodega.
She wanted to get.
She's like, this is real life.
She's like, we try to give these people some kind of culture
because the plan is to have our kids look better than us,
but they got to know.
Like, my daughter better know not to feed the line the state.
That's right.
Because your ass is gone.
Now, they got to have the best of both girls,
and they get that.
Me from New Jersey, Omar from New York.
You know?
Smyrna, Georgia, huh?
I like shit like that.
I always wanted to live somewhere like that.
You know what I'm saying?
Some Savannah, some shit.
Like, I never been able to, man.
You know, I always been in the bullshit.
Like, I always want to be, like, I'm even New York, Miami.
Shit got to be hectic.
I really want to chill.
So chill.
So, chill.
You know, I try it.
Nah.
All right.
But you can find a balance.
You can find a balance.
I've just said a lot of tricky things
do off his energy.
I'm trying to figure it out.
I think they know fat joint
for 30 years, man.
They know the golf.
You don't know.
He wants to chill.
Go live some way
where he can really chill.
Who does that?
Well, you'll be chilling.
I'll be chilling.
You have to.
I don't know how to chill.
That's where all the pieces.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's crazy, right?
You work.
And then you chill in.
Yeah.
That's the balance.
I saw you out there in Miami.
I was staying in North Mine.
I was in Bell Harbor.
Then I thought, you were,
no,
we had,
you thought I was chilling?
I mean,
I'm chilling.
But let me tell you something.
Here we go.
I paid taxes yesterday.
I stood home and chill.
Right?
My ass was in that fucking Michael Jackson,
all the air machine.
I'm in the hydroconical like,
Like, I don't know what the fuck these people be doing ours with this shit.
Like, paying all the fucking taxes?
This shit is unfucking believable.
I'm sitting up in there twitching the shit.
My family try to keep me company and shit.
They're like, my family try to keep me company.
Like, yo, Joe, do you want some wings or something?
What you're like, this shit?
That's the only time I'm not.
chill.
And I got to pay that bill right there.
That's shit legendary.
This is crazy.
What?
But it's a good problem to have.
That means you're doing something like.
You're doing something right.
Oh, God.
It's better than getting locked up and chilling in a sense.
So you're going to text.
No, with this, when you talk about a guy who used to eat free lunch and government cheese?
Same.
They got me back, man.
They got me.
They got me.
For all the government cheese,
These motherfuckers got me.
I don't bought shiploads of fucking government chief with my taxes.
This shit crazy.
People are government lost, man.
Oh, boom.
It's out of control what's happening to the people, you know.
It's crazy.
That's true.
The one thing they do got is the beautiful music.
You guys got timeless music.
I sit in my pool, man, in the summer, man.
I listen to y'all shit back to back, the back to back.
I often, I'll perform back to back on y'all,
because I know we held the stagement now,
so I need a day in between.
Oh, man.
Yeah, this is, so for this year,
because of what was going on in the world
and the country right now, you know,
what we wanted to do with, like,
we wanted to make sure that, you know,
people weren't trying to decide on buying Christmas presents
or Thanksgiving dinner and going to concerts.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So what we were.
did was we scaled back for this year and we overloaded for next year. We want everybody to see
exactly what you are getting. You know what I'm saying? We basically putting the spear touching all
six senses inside of the eighters. You know what I'm saying? So you're definitely getting your money's
worth. And next year, it'll be, you know, back to back to back for the rest of the 15 or 18
of the shows that we got. How many back and back to back? How many back to back? Oh no, my
shit fucked up.
I can't do it.
I'm telling you the truth.
I can't do it.
Yeah.
Did you get the trips?
The man said,
I did a three,
a triple play.
Ain't that some bullshit?
I keep complaining,
but I'll do three shows
and one.
I don't give a fuck.
I'm going to get the bag.
Boker Ritone here.
Club 11,
three in the morning.
You feel me?
So I did a show Club 11,
man.
I ain't going to lie.
It was the third show.
I didn't have the right energy.
Fluidity was gone.
Like two, three months ago.
I ain't have the right energy
and the promoter who books me all the time.
Great Club 11.
You go to Miami.
It's amazing.
The man hit me up and was like,
yo, man, you ain't had the right energy.
I said, next time.
I'm going to give you double the show.
I'm going to have that energy.
Yeah.
And I slept all day.
Yeah.
When I went in Club 11 like last week, man,
I'm bouncing around.
I did the whole catalog for the mark.
Nah, because if we ain't got them,
they're the guys buying.
They're the hell chopper.
Yeah.
You let one of the motherfuckers
so you ain't doing right?
You do about four or five
I do about four or five club 11s a year, right?
Yeah.
And when we round that shit off to the nearest 10,
we don't want to fuck that bag up.
You don't want that off the table.
Yeah, sir.
Big told us some shit, man, a long time ago.
He was like, yo, I'm going to do matinees for now.
I'm going to do matinees and I'm going to do a show at night.
We was like, bro, you bugging.
He was like, nah, if I can get it in, you know,
a matinee, like during the day,
one at night.
I'm doing that shit for like,
what did he?
How much he said he was doing those shit for?
But he was like,
I'm bringing,
he was talking about making a million and
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it was something like,
but he gave,
he dropping jewels, right?
So he was just like,
yo, y'all need to do matinees.
And I was like, bro, you know,
we sing so we can't really do that shit,
you know, like a matinee and a show at night.
You know what I'm doing?
But, you know, but we like where you go on with that shit.
You know what I mean?
But he was like, yo, I'm doing a matinee.
I saw it right after, right after, first of all,
I'm old, right?
Season, we season.
No, no, no.
If I got a late show, I'm taking the fucking old man,
not everything.
I'm in the car, I'm taking that.
I got my shit just calculated.
If we're driving to Jersey, I'm sleeping.
I want to bring my own pillow.
But what I'm saying to you is,
that's some old man's shit right there.
Rich, how good do I know, Rick?
How good do I know this guy?
Me and Spain, son of you
Because of COVID,
I don't know if they realized
But they started throwing like brunch party
I mean 5,000
Like that shit was fucking lit
Like you're looking on the ground
That shit I was like, yo
We could go
We could actually lie to our wife
And say we went golfing
And we had the brunch
No
No
What's that?
Yo, let me tell you something
That Joe
That Joe can't get away with that
But somebody not famous was in them shit
Let me tell you something
That's coming back
It's okay, it ain't on me
I ain't go to none of them shit
I'm just telling you
Whatever it did, you finished them
Whoever wasn't famous
They were saying they're going somewhere
To work or whatever
And they was in that brunch
12 noon
You were home at 4 o'clock
How about this?
See that's a bunch
I got booked at nine in the morning.
It looked like, it looked like, fuck.
You see that?
That's old.
He got shit, by the way.
No.
Nine in the morning.
Dog, by the, I pulled up in the spending, people was coming out, growing up, getting walked out.
I want to know.
They was up from the night.
Did they go?
No.
That's what I thought.
I'm thinking there's nobody in there.
And this shit is dead as hashbrow.
Where this is looked like the million.
It was crazy.
at nine.
I went on about 10.30.
That shit looked like...
You hear that promoters?
I think that shit worked, right?
That was the illest shit I ever been.
Camillo, tried to get us to that?
No, I'd be full energy at 9 in the morning.
All the chav wasn't right.
The chav wasn't right. The chav was right.
The chav was right. The chav got to be.
People at 10.30 in the morning was crazy.
I didn't think that could even have.
They like this, dude.
Yeah, but that's what I'm talking about.
They were throwing parties like that.
First thing in the morning,
5,000 people popping champagne.
Those are seasoned folk that came out at that time.
They don't want to do that three in the morning,
shit, two in the morning.
They'd be dizzy by the time.
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
A normal person, not a rapper who's used to that time,
it's three in the morning?
I ain't going to, I'm early.
I go to the studio in the morning after the gym.
See, that's where I'm a kid.
talking about.
Hey, I thought that was
my voice change.
Are you guys still in the studio,
like in the studio?
Yes.
Yes.
So what's that?
Like a, like the clubhouse?
Well, like,
we don't have our own studio.
We all want to have a own studio,
but we love starting,
like, in the morning.
Yeah, because, I mean,
your voice is nice and refreshed.
You just woke up, you know what I'm saying?
We do our little regiment,
and then let's go.
I think I got to buy a studio.
He in the studio every day.
I'm not in the studio.
Yeah.
Why not?
Got to stay posh.
Too much shit.
Too much life going on.
Too much money.
I go there when it's something.
No, I ain't got too much money.
No such time.
That's not like a money movie.
No, sir.
I ain't got too much money.
I said.
No, no.
My thing is, like, I, I, it sounds whack.
But it's like, I got to, like, motivate myself to go to the studio now.
Zone it.
And before it was like, I'm in the studio every day.
I don't care.
Now I got to be like, like now, I'm in a fucked up position.
I told one of my best friends on Earth
Belovie, I'm going to dinner with him tonight.
And I've been excited for that all day.
Now, y'all tell me, y'all in Brooklyn.
Bring them this.
Six, seven.
I ain't going there.
Six seven.
Six seven.
You're saying, you're sick.
You got me six seven over.
I'm fucked up.
I'm like, damn, this is a bad for me.
I'm going.
Can you do early dinner?
I'm there.
Yeah, I think it might be an early dinner.
What time you get on stage?
They go on that.
8.15 for Mace, right?
She's like that.
We go on that 10.
I said Mace.
For Case.
Case.
He was the man back in the day.
The ladies love Case back in the day.
They still love him.
They still love him.
He's still love it.
There you go.
Let me see which one.
You're ready, Mike.
always bring his name up when we talk about that era.
It's like the case,
Case was outside.
Yeah, yes.
This is what I'm trying to take.
Certain 80 friends of mine,
they'd be like, y'all,
Chase was the problem and shit like that.
You know, he was out there.
Well, that's okay.
Case was outside.
You know, they didn't have social media,
so, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, it's all right.
Thank God we came up in the time with no holes.
Amen.
Social media.
You're ruined love.
Social media ruined luck.
Yeah.
Because, yes?
They're my mom's in Pops.
They're tampered.
They never have to us.
No, they ain't tampered.
They ruined luck.
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My mom's and pops, they have
a fucking dollar, and they were together
for 50-something years, and
no matter what fucked up she did
or whatever the case may be,
they worked to stop. I said pops and pops
was around before electricity.
It was
barely 10.
What I'm saying is, thank God we come up at a time
where it wasn't social media
because they force you to leave your partner now.
Before you discuss with your partner now
that, yo, I think this ain't working out.
They throw the line on the shade woman.
They like in ball and done.
Joe had an argument in public.
It's over.
And then out of pressure coming, yo, girl.
You know, that's why I never did a reality show.
Because I was like,
Now, everybody in your...
It's something you go through something with your wife or your husband.
Y'all can work that out.
Now I was on TV and your friend is giving her fucking advice.
You know, I don't know about this shit.
He's talking like this.
I'd have definitely got thrown out of my house.
If I had a fat joke show or the Cardiganis, done deal out of my house.
Because I'm weird.
I'm unorthodox, but my wife understand me.
But if you're watching on TV, you're like, fuck him.
Get rid of them, girl!
He's throwing.
Hit the line.
Get rid of them.
Here's coming the line, y'all.
I feel you.
I feel you on that.
I feel you.
Everybody accustomed to their partner,
certain people's certain way.
You know what I'm saying?
But, you know, that social media shit.
It's hard for the youth.
It is.
It's a lot of pressure for the youth
in every way, shape, or form.
You know.
No such thing is dating.
Huh?
No such thing is dating, like, asking a girl.
They don't know how to talk to each.
My daughter's,
about that all the time.
You're sliding in the DM.
Text each of it.
That's not.
It would be gorgeous.
Safe to say it's easier for guys
now. Before you have to jump out the whip
and be like, hey, what's up, girl?
What's going on? You know, you got
had that Luther Vangorce
when you pull up on the whip.
So once you get in the whip, that shit
comes, oh, this is not a
old. They'll start to do that shit.
Now they take them
on a date and they're on the phone right next
to him like,
you want a soldier?
Sure.
I think guys are bolder.
Younger guys are bolder now
through the text
than they are in person.
Yeah, yeah.
That could be, yeah.
But you know what's crazy about it is
like the standard is like push
because I tell my son's,
I'm like, look,
not pay attention,
understand what entertainment,
social media is entertainment.
But you got some people
who actually live that.
They'll look at certain people
that they look up to and say,
oh, she wears this.
Oh, that's where they go.
or whatever, I require you to take me first time.
You know what I'm saying?
You're going to spend about $1,000 on dinner.
It's got to be this first way before we even know each other.
Yeah, that's true.
Remember the, what's that bullshit list that, uh, wait, you know, places you couldn't
know, yeah, yeah, listen, every last one of my day, red dogs now, right, Olive Garden,
I think the women, robbers.
I think the women, hold on.
Channel Biscuits.
Hey, man, listen,
Taco freaking Bell, bro.
If she loves you, if she loves you,
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We want to eat a little healthy.
You got to go to...
Taco Bell for a dated.
See, I never had a problem.
Because I'm fat junk.
You got to eat steak and lobster every night no matter what.
You come along for the ride, I don't give a fuck, right?
But my thing is, I think the woman won.
Like, they won.
Why?
because guys.
They won.
Yes.
Because the guys are like manipulators
and you're going to get over on whoever you're going to get over.
So sometimes a girl didn't know her worst back in the day.
And before she figured that shit out,
you don't, you don't ran through you out of here.
Now, at least now they know through Instagram,
they're like, yo, this is a Kelly.
Want to take me out?
This is a Kelly, her mess.
Go get your weight up.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
And these guys, I don't know what the fuck.
they doing to get the shit.
Because, see, like, everybody got a $20,000 bag on Instagram.
See, that's the reason why I like.
So I got daughters, right?
I got two daughters, 18 and the 13-year-old.
So ever since they were little girls, I would always open doors for them.
Yes, ma'am, no, ma'am.
You know, just so they know this is the standard.
So my 18-year-old, like, now, shit, both my kids, like, they'll sit there and wait
like, a nigga, you're going to get this door?
Like, you know, it's the look, you know, somebody's already in their head now.
So they know that there's a standard to how I'm supposed to be treated.
So that's how, you know, I did it, man, with mine, man.
Like, and, you know, and I, I would advise and I would encourage any man or any woman that has daughters to, like, treat them as if how you want them to be treated when they are in somebody else.
Yeah, man, it's like, yeah, it's definitely Southern hospitality, but it's just I want whomever she ends up with to treat her the same way that I treat it.
You know what I mean?
So that's why I'm opening doors.
I mean, yes, ma'am, I'm listening and I'm doing all these things.
because, you know, raising girls is a lot different, my boy.
Like, them dudes, like, you know, stop, you know, cut that out.
But the girls, you have to, you know, you have to actually listen.
And then they could have told you that, yeah, it was red yesterday.
It's blue today.
You know, it's the same thing we're talking about.
But it's red today.
Tomorrow that's it's blue.
Okay.
And I'm like, babe, we just talked about the same, you know what?
I'm a girl.
You know, so.
Talk that king talk.
You saw that king talk.
Everything you saw in this industry and life.
and everything, how you deal with having a young daughter?
I think it's just, it's kind of more like what Prince was saying, Mike,
it's what you instill in them,
is raising them that way to show her what she's deserving of
and having real conversations.
In our house, we have real conversations.
It's always our little lounge room, living room,
comfy in there, you know, got the TV going, we eat together,
and you sit down and you have real conversations.
Our kids, we have, we've been blessed to have really great relations.
with my son, who's 17 and my daughter, Kamarri 21, we have real conversations.
It's like, talk to your dad.
There's some game, I can't give you.
I can give you what I have as a woman, but it's some game I can't give you that your
father can give you that it makes all the sense in the world.
And maybe if it don't make sense right now, eventually it will.
That's right.
But just take his word because that's the first man that she trusts.
That's right.
First teach.
But I also think we got to change what's in the music.
Because that's the driving force of how people.
show up how the guy approaches the female,
how the male approaches, you know what I mean?
How the female approach, which she's expecting.
We have real conversations like, no, that's not fair that they're going out,
they're 21, they're going out, you expecting the guy to buy you this and buy,
where are you getting the money from?
You know, so I think with the music, we still have good music,
but we're not vulnerable in our music anymore.
We don't talk about love like it's this whole thing like with men and
And, you know, the stuff that men, y'all got to carry so much and saying y'all can't be a man.
A real man is transparent.
With that partner, he can talk about what his feelings are.
You know?
You know, I just had this conversation with nephew, his son, where he was like, you know, some artists of today, they just want to get the, whatever the bag is.
The bag is stupidity-humidi-humidi-y-habi-y-y-a-y-a-a-a-di.
They're going to do that shit for the bag, right?
We come up a time where we pay homage.
We had De La Soe.
To me, they're gods.
They're fucking legends of all legends, gods are God.
So when we come, I want my followers or my fans to know, yo, this is fucking
volume.
Right.
And they kind of like missing that with the youth where they just like, it's not about
the culture.
It's not about the message.
It's not about it.
It's more like stick them up wherever, you know.
And that shit don't last long.
Right.
And so that integrity is what's missing.
And whenever we have the youth,
because all the time we're doing this, we teach it.
Right.
So that's what this show is all about teaching.
There's people need to hear that.
There's people dealing with that.
It's people who need to hear everything we're saying, you know, out there
who really been following you for 30 years,
following us for 30 years.
And they're like, all right, cool.
Because everybody's dealing, everybody got teenage daughters.
Right.
fucking guys coming up in the game.
It's great that you touched on that, though, bro,
because that's one thing that we,
one of the main reasons why we wanted to do this tour
outside of, you know, getting at their bread,
but real rap,
there is something to be said about the way that we treat our culture
and we treat our artists that is seasoned, if you will,
versus, like, rock music and-
Talk slow to them, Mike.
We don't age out over there.
Black don't crack.
We don't age out.
Like, we get better over time.
And it's like, if you're a certain age in R&B and in hip hop,
you're considered old or antiquated or whatever.
But, you know, in Rock World, right now,
if they were like, yo, we're going on tour right now,
that shit will be sold out in like two minutes.
Forget about it.
You know what's okay.
And so we got to give.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
And, you know, just to add on to it, man,
we definitely have to get out on our genre as far as support, too.
like I went to a Pearl Jam
concert, my time, right?
Big shout to Pearl Jam.
Fucking love for you.
Get out of it.
The lead singer was young,
but he sounded just like the lead singer, right?
Right, right.
He was a new singer.
He was a new song.
Man, but the people there,
they were like embraced in the music.
So I'm sitting there,
I'm just soaking in all the energy.
You know what I'm saying?
My mind is a catalog.
It's crazy.
And all of a sudden, the people start,
that was around, start noticing who I was.
And they were like, hey, man,
when we don't see y'all,
we don't see you, you know what I'm saying, whatever, whatever.
And I was like, man, you know,
because things that wasn't the way it was,
the way it was at the time.
And they were like, look,
I don't care how we hear this music.
We just want to hear this music.
Hey, I can't name three people up in here.
But when that record came on,
that whole stadium lit up.
and it's just unfortunate that, you know what I'm saying?
People don't know what's going on behind the scenes,
but to even get there,
we're already, like, told what we can't do
from the time we first started, you know what I'm saying?
So for us to get to this situation right here,
like we at our 30th year,
and you're seeing us and you're hearing us
and you're feeling us at this level right here,
we've already won at this point.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm going to encourage everybody out there.
You know what I'm saying?
hey man support
support our culture
you know what I'm saying
people build
their music comes from us
right and we gotta walk
we gotta walk they got to walk we gotta walk
because I'm a Grammy voter too
so you know I made it a response
like I felt incumbent right
to not only just talk about
the fact that y'all man
they always voting for the same people
like nah bro now I'm a vote
now I'm a Grammy voter so
like I'm gonna do my part as well
and just you know all the artists
that I love and that I know that don't get that kind of support that, you know, that the majors
will just put behind or whatever.
So, like, it's more than just saying, you know, we should support what it.
It's actually doing the actions or whatever, man.
But, you know, it is something to be said about how we treat our artists.
It's like if you're not popping, if you're not relevant at the time, then it's like
your whole catalog went away.
And it's like your whole body of work.
We sacrifice everybody, everybody here has 30 years or more.
of sacrifice.
Like, people don't understand what it takes to be in the music industry.
So how much shit you have to give up, how much shit you miss out on graduations,
birthdays, funerals, all this other stuff, man.
Just to, it's crazy.
Like, we knew what it was, what the Bible say.
To whom much is given?
Much is required.
Right?
So we've been giving a lot.
But at the same time, we had to give a lot as well, man.
So I don't think that part of the industry never gets talked about enough.
Or if it does, it's like, y'all complaining.
y'all rich, you know, y'all millionaires and all this other stuff, man.
So, you know, y'all don't have a right to complain.
You don't have a right to, you know, and no, we're human.
We're just as human as everybody else there.
And like Keisha was saying earlier, we have vulnerabilities as well.
And the great thing about it is, like, you guys' platform were able to speak on these
kind of things or whatever because for so many years, we were unable to speak about the fact that,
yo, man, like, I'm sick as a dog right now.
Not sick and contagious, like, anything like that.
But, like, vocally, I don't know how I'm going to do this show to
But I'm going to push through.
But people don't want to hear that shit.
They're like, yo, I pay my money.
I need you singing tonight.
You know what I mean?
So some kind of way I'm going to push through it.
But it's those things that people don't understand.
You know what I mean?
And so I'm glad that we're able to.
And I want to thank you guys as well on behalf of Total M-12.
Give my man, Mike and peppermint tea and something over there.
Give me a medicine ball, son.
I'm thinking like this is a psychiatrist.
Put some vodka in that thing.
Right now, right?
Because I'm sitting back here.
listening to y'all, and I'm saying to myself a couple of things.
The reason why I started this saying, what took so long for you all to collaborate together
and do this? Because to me, if I was around y'all, this was a no brain.
Right.
Right? With no disrespect. Let me give you, I like to tell a humbling story of mine before
I tell somebody a humbling thing, right?
All right.
So I remember I went through the taxes. You know, they took all my money. I was fucked up.
I went to see Pit Bull said, you know, Pitbull said,
Yo, Joe, come see me, right?
So I go see Pit Bull.
His house is on the water.
Like, you know, I took Pit Bull's demo to TVT
and got him his record deal.
Me, Fat Joe.
Now I come to him.
I'm at the brokenest of my life.
He's on the water.
He's buying hospitals and schools, all type.
Just take that.
He was like, yo, I want to give you.
you some money. What can I do to help you? I was like, yo, pit, you can't give me no money. I don't
get down like that. But Joe, let me give you some, like, he really was probably the only person
begging me to give me some money, right? And I was like, yo, Pitt, how you get this shit? He said,
that's easy. I watched every mistake you bang. He said, you should have signed Little Wayne when he came
to Miami. You should have signed Rick Ross. You could have signed Pitbull. He said, I watched everything
you did. And I did the opposite. Now, I was.
I had to take that criticism at the time.
I had to look at it and be like, damn,
and just reevaluate mistakes and shit I did
and how I had to move.
And so what I'm telling you is,
because of this era, it was a time, I was really pissed, right?
Because they were saying guys like you, right?
Say you lost your deal when you 26 years old.
They were like, the old school at noon and playing 112
and everybody I grew up with
and I'm like, yo, old school at nudies,
motherfuckers only 24, right?
And then I feel like that era
really let them do that to them.
You know, we from an era, we say,
fuck you, we're doing whatever the fuck we're going to do.
So with us hip hop, I think,
like Jay-Z took ownership.
I mean, everybody started just taking ownership
saying, fuck y'all,
we're going to do what we want to do.
and if you say, you know how many times
I have friends tell me, yo, it's over.
Like I had one of my best friends
tell me, yo, you should quit already, it's over.
I'm like, what?
I came out with lean back like two months later.
I was like, fuck are you talking about?
Every time.
When we did it all the way up, I tell you this story,
I was coming to studio, these kids already had
yellow hair, green hair, person.
Motherfucking looking at me like the old nigger on the couch.
Yo, what's up, OG?
What's up, onk?
Walking through, you know what I mean?
They thought I was washed.
And then we come all the way up, the shit, go number one.
So it's like, I never let them dictate what we're doing.
Like right now, we jump up in the podcast space.
We're a little late.
But we had to come do this because they got to hear y'all.
And your side of the story and we got to teach.
It's all about teaching.
You know, this is what we do, whether we have the youth, we have the OGs, whatever the case may be.
There's no question.
So what I'm trying to tell y'all is this, whether y'all don't know it.
Any time your music come on, this shit is legendary.
Oh, yeah.
Every fucking time.
Every time.
Every time your shit, come on.
And they can't take that from you.
So you got something.
God bless you with something that you could go.
Ten years from now.
The total one, 12, who gives a fuck?
They want to see it again.
They want to hear it.
And then the more mature the fan,
the more they got money in their pocket to spend two bags.
So let me just say this.
We're definitely in line exactly what you're saying.
So 112 Hose movement, you know what I'm saying?
Big shout out to our management team.
You know what I'm saying?
Like years ago, you know what I'm saying?
We got a chance to actually put the reins in our hands
where, you know, when people were like shutting the door saying,
no, we don't think you're up to this standard or whatever we did.
What we did was we shot our own poll star numbers up.
And we traveled around the world.
We believed in ourselves.
We brand ourselves.
And that's what we did.
And then we learned the knowledge of the game.
And then we made the actual agencies come to us.
So with this tour, yet you see, we earned it.
We earned it by selling out whatever place that they put into what it was.
Yes.
arenas.
Go deep.
No.
No, he's
right.
And what we did was
we sold it out
for years.
And so the same
agencies then had to
retract what they
said and now
had to cut the check.
So exactly what you see
with 112
and you're seeing
total and the whole
case situation,
yes,
we are getting the flowers
and thank you,
thank everybody out there.
But I just want
everybody to understand
that this is
a business too and you know what I'm saying we you have to earn it it's less of that talk we always
come just like thank you you know what I'm saying whatever but it's a reason it's just like how
you all created this podcast you didn't say oh it's so many other podcasts or whatever no y'all
took it and then that's why y'all number one so you know what I'm saying so thank god
for our people thank God for our people that you know what I'm saying believe in this you know what I'm
saying you know what I'm saying? Yes sir.
and shit.
Exactly.
Boston and shit.
So we got freedom.
We talk to whoever we want to talk to.
We do whatever the fuck we want to do
and we don't give a fuck.
And that was the difference.
No, it's the truth.
No, it's the truth.
No.
It's the difference between when we all came up
to now.
I hate it, right?
Being signed to a major label.
Fat Joe, the gangster.
I'm fucking scared.
They even talk to me.
Their lips are shaking in the street.
I got to talk to this.
John Wolfington and be like,
hey, could you really promote my record?
You know how embarrassed I would have been in the streets
that they would have seen videos of that shit?
Yo, could you really, are you going to push the button this time, buddy?
I bought you some sandwiches so you could like, fuck out of here.
I had to take power in my own hands and go independent.
I wasn't scared.
I was like, man, fuck these dudes.
And I've been winning ever since.
But it's about taking the power in your hands.
I want to ask you a question.
Don't want to answer.
It may be a little something.
But with the controversy, do you worry about, not now, obviously not,
but was you at the time worrying about your catalog or how people will receive your music?
I know it had nothing to do with you, but, you know, y'all fall in that whole thing.
Anybody want to answer that?
No.
So did we clear?
We're talking about.
You know what we're talking about.
Did that.
We get nothing to the music.
I just want to.
It may them want to hear it more.
exactly.
We thought about it, but it wasn't.
You trust your mind.
Until you, until they play.
You see how to...
No people still love you and it has really
nothing to do it yet. Nothing to do with you.
Nothing to do with us at all.
But at first you said...
Same music. At first you said,
you know, this might be fucking our shit up.
Like, because you could catch it.
It was not so much saying.
It was more something you just thought about.
Like, you know, it could possibly
been a trickle effect.
But they kind of...
So I'm going to tell you something.
And big shout out to Tony Neal out there for a core DJ.
Yeah, big Joe.
You tell us.
Stop, boy.
Fucking legend.
So he called me, that's my homie.
He called me when it first popped off.
And I was like, well, you got to look at it on one side.
You know what I'm saying?
We saw our royalty shoot up like a thousand percent.
Why?
Because the younger people didn't even know who did he and stuff, you know what I'm saying?
At first.
What was the music?
But they said, what is the music?
So who would these people that's whatever?
And then it was like,
somebody go to jail, that shit's spot up a thousand.
That's what it is.
So then I said, okay, well, now this is what we're going to do.
Because what he was worried about was,
oh, man, I wonder why I heart radio and what's going to do.
So he put me on a phone with somebody that was an executive.
And I was like, hey, because I already know how it feels like when you go independent
and now you're the CEO of your own stuff, your conversation goes different.
It's not like you're sitting sheepishly as an artist.
You're now the CEO.
And I know because I dropped so fly and it went double platinum independent.
Right?
Talk that shit.
So you make a phone call.
You say, hey, I'm going to talk to the person who runs the southeast inside of, you know what I'm saying, Walmart.
Hey, well, how come my stuff is not here or whatever?
You know what I'm saying?
Make it happen.
Same thing what Tony did.
He put me on the phone with somebody from our heart.
And it happened.
I know we're not to worry about.
Yo, Tony Neal, man, we love you, man.
We thank you for all the years of supporting us as artists.
Yes, sir.
You always been true to the game, man.
We love you, brother.
You know, here we get them flowers, you know what I'm saying?
You know, he just caught the blessing on the humble, you know what I'm saying,
on the walk through.
Somebody's going to tell him, yo, you seen the podcast.
They was begging you out, Tony.
You're a fucking black shit, bro.
He might be just about to close the deal.
Somebody need to hear.
that shit.
Like, damn shit.
They big dumped Tony Neal.
That's important.
Yes.
I was worried about it, right?
So, you know, I worry about everybody.
Let me tell you something I thought about it.
I was going to say, yeah, all right.
What are you saying?
I worry about everybody because the oppressors, the oppressors, the people who've been
playing with us in this business, they always try to make us feel like we don't love
each other.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we're not really like in the class.
of whatever or whatever the case.
And that's a fucking lie.
The minute I hear somebody sick,
somebody's sick, somebody passed,
somebody this, somebody this,
I hurt.
Even though I don't see y'all every day,
I just be like, damn, man, what the fuck, whatever?
They have you thinking that it's all competition
that we don't love each other,
but we really love each other.
Our situation, I'm telling you keep it real.
That might shout up tremendously.
That's beautiful.
And for a person that, you know what I'm saying,
you can control your public.
You turn a negative to a positive.
So we hear.
Yeah, we're here. Oh, no, no, no, no, you're more than here. You guys represent a time of music
that cannot even be matched. That's right. Or fucking duplicates. You know what I'm saying.
Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news?
Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to us. We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's
extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it
one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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What's your man? Stephen A. Smith.
You know, you too, bro.
Stephen A. Smith came on. He was like, yo, man.
You know, my mic fucked up at the Yankee
World Series. It was an honor for me. I grew up
five blocks away. So they put the
fucking delay on my shit.
So he's talking about.
y'all ice cube did it flawlessly.
I said, bro, I practiced three times a day.
The shit was perfect.
When they turned it on, the shit had a delay.
There's nothing I could do about it.
But I almost felt like he was disvaluing my motherfucking monsters.
My shit, number one, Billboard, all of them shits I played in Yankee Stadium was number one,
Billboard 100 number one.
Not the fucking this chart or that chart.
Let's just, miss.
So my brother Stephen
When I went home and I thought about
I said, yo Steve, you discredit in that
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
That shit ain't no regular shit coming on.
Facts.
Nothing can stop me, y'am.
All the way up.
You can't discredit the missiles.
Come on, man.
We know Ice Cube, the guard of gods
and we're going to salute the message.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Unless you play in the big three.
I love us.
Huh?
I said all of us.
Put us all in the movie, God damn it.
But my thing is they can't discredit your catalog.
You know, I was listening to you the other day.
What's the part of the song that you go like Tony, Tony, Tony?
Feels good.
You couldn't wait to do that.
You, y'all, you couldn't wait to go.
Feels good.
Hey, man.
Who's some of the guys?
guys influenced you because, you know, you guys are legends to everybody who influenced you?
Well, I sound originated from Take Six and Commission. So those two gospel, you know, groups,
they gave us that initial sound. And then big shout out to Tim and Bob, who basically
molded our sound into what it was. But our three, like we always say, we have a trifecta,
right, of three groups that always were like the tier before 112. And that's New Edition,
Jodacy and Boys and Men. It's like, so those three was like those, those pot,
It is like untouchable.
You had the soulfulness from Jodacy.
You had the harmonies and the songs and the beautiful songs.
Well, Jodice are beautiful songs as well from boys to men.
And then you have the overall entertainment aspect from New Edition.
So that was a trifecta as far as 112 is concerned.
And then we were that tier underneath, you know, some of those guys.
So like that's how we looked at it.
But we also had like major influences everywhere because we tour with Whitney
and the Isley brothers and Janet and Buffetty and the family, New Edition.
So we all, like you said, taking it back and paying homage, we learned something from all of them.
Like, you know, we learned how to be, you know, classy with the Isaac brothers.
We learned how to, how to embrace an entire audience with Whitney.
And we learned how to be entertainers with new addition.
And, you know, it was just, it was all those lessons, man, we learned from.
So we learned from everybody, man.
We learned from total.
We learned from the lots.
Just crazy to this, like, when we first met the lots, we thought Mace was in the group.
We thought Mace was, like, the fourth member of Lops.
we first
that's
it was great
I can't wait till I give this man
this check
right
I can't wait till I give me the biggest check
this man ever seen
in his life
I can't fucking wait
right
because he fuck with me
but he know I got the master plan
don't worry about
I know how to get to the yala
you know what I'm saying
who are some of your influences
man you know well
for me having an
untraditional voice, man.
I always looked at artists like, you know,
Raphael Sadiq, Stokely or something like that,
Babyface, El DeBarge, Ron Isley.
Baby face, dog.
Yeah, man.
So it's just like the people who had different style of voices where, you know,
first, like, if they whisper, you know exactly who they are.
So I had to understand my voice and find my place.
You know what I'm saying?
Thank print Mike for understanding like, okay,
he doesn't have the most traditional voice,
but he'd be in the group.
You know what I'm saying?
And I just felt like my part of being in the group was, you know, of course, whatever the harmonies are, what we're supposed to do.
But when it's my turn to sing, then I need to understand my voice and understand like, okay, when you sing Slim, you know what I'm saying?
That's going to differentiate us from anyone else.
You know what was crazy?
When Slim first got in the group, he didn't sing in the leads.
he was not, he didn't seem any leads whatsoever, right?
Huff set us all down and was like, yo, this y'all lead singer.
And at first we were like, yo, you bugging.
You know what I mean?
Because like we don't have a lead singer.
Yeah, we didn't have any weak links or whatever.
But he understood the business aspect of him.
It was like, yo, this dude got one of the most distinctive voices on earth.
Like if you hear him, you immediately associate his voice with 112.
So that didn't, that didn't belittle the rest of us, you know what?
as far as like what we were able to contribute.
But you heard my voice before.
I'm one of them,
David Ruffin, Sam Cook kind of dudes, you know what I mean?
So that's, you heard that.
The Wathaway.
Yeah, Donnie Hathaway's.
You heard that soulfulness.
You heard that before.
So, but with him, you've never heard a dude like that before.
Even when all the people that he said he was influenced by,
you never really heard his voice before.
Right.
Because we had, what, Drew Hill.
Who else was out of?
Next.
Next.
As yet.
Lade.
All right.
You see when the man punished his little son, he made him
Do the Drew Hill.
Do they do the Drew Hill.
Give me 10 more,
motherfucking doing that.
The Drew Hill.
We're going to make them do some
one-twil choreography.
They'll be sweating.
Take a little of one of I have a choreography.
Look at it.
Hey, yo, y'all, you know,
y'all need to do one and one with,
it's over now.
Do the choreography on that.
Those kids are never do anything bad in their life.
Ten times.
They'll never do nothing bad in their life again.
Who influenced y'all?
Mary J. Blige.
Total.
Yes.
Yes.
as far as total.
Growing up for me,
it was Whitney Houston,
Stephanie Mills,
Luther Vandrosser.
Oh, come on.
Those are my favorites,
about it.
Yeah.
Even Sister Sledge,
Shock the Con.
Like,
and then I remember,
um,
as far as like our presentation
and our delivery
and style,
it was the Labels.
Yeah.
That's what Puff.
That's what Puff saw.
You know,
you were,
that's crazy because you got some of my top
five's two. That's nuts. Stephanie
Mill, she's the queen, you know?
So happy for her, this moment that
she said. Right now, right? I told her,
I knew her at a time. You know,
Stephanie Mill, my girl, you know,
we're on a different level, you know what I'm saying?
We got matching first,
you know, one year she came, she had a show,
I came pull up with the peach and chill up
down to her fucking anxious.
She didn't even know why I gave it to her.
I said, he goes.
Where it would help?
Stephanie Mills my girl
Don't do that
Why you know
I didn't do anything
I'm the sending
me
I love y'all
The synergy is funny
I mean
Dope
Babyface
Hold on hold on
Babyface
You know he comes
to my birthday parties
This is not a lie
You could Google this shit
You don't believe it
When I tell him I'm cool with people
So you can call baby face
Because me and Kima looking for a record
A super facts
I can call baby face.
I'll tell them.
Are you going to get them a record?
I don't know if I'm going to get them the record.
I can't tell you what the man.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to trust.
I'm on them, though.
You want me to tell him?
You want me to tell him I can get baby fat.
I'm not.
Fuck, man.
I can't even believe I know.
Because we can't say what should have been
because it could have been.
It should have been, right?
It's going to be.
Every time.
Every time.
You're going to tell me.
You sound like dead in the middle of little Italy over there.
I should have been cut them in the other.
I was doing, what did you do earlier?
Oh, I didn't even know what the fuck.
Earlier things.
It was stupid.
So, Keish, I'm fried.
I tell them, though, some people don't know when they fry.
I know I'm fried.
Right.
I'm not fried.
I'm more I forget everything.
I don't give a fuck, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Yo, I'm like a horse.
You put the blinders on me and say the back.
Scott Wayne and I'm going.
I've got to go get that shit.
That's what it's all about.
That's what so.
But yeah, Stephanie Mills, man,
she's everything to me, you know.
You went back to Stephanie.
The moment she had on TikTok
when everybody, we did it.
We went super viral, huh?
You were scared to do that shit, man.
You ain't want to sing like that.
That ain't my style.
Y'all hit him with the Euro stuff.
You're singing?
I didn't know I had moves.
I was doing the singing.
He was doing the dance.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, this is wild.
He didn't want to do the dance.
I said, y'all, I wish.
Let me tell you, if I could throw my whole rap career in and be a R&B singer, I would have did it a long time ago.
I think Remy too.
Remi would have the same.
Like, we fake singers.
We want to sing.
No, we love him.
Boy, she, you know, it's like, you see.
Kima want to rap.
Kima want to rap.
She's smart.
Kima.
Can't see.
Slim did the Stephanie Mills joint with us.
Y'all did it?
Man, but see, they threatened me.
Slep was dancing.
They threatened me because they straight up.
So you were doing the old school dance.
Man, I was going hard on the old school dance.
You got to go hard on that motherfucker.
They were going to be on the tour, so I mean, you're old, man.
I didn't get out of kids.
I've seen so many mothers forced their little kids,
11 years old to do the old school kids.
They jumping up and down.
They're doing the Jew Hill shit, hopping.
The new addition, shit.
The new addition, do me a favor.
You're 45, 50 plus.
I'm going to the new edition show.
I always do.
Don't do the dad.
Don't do the routine.
Don't hear it is a lot.
Don't do that.
It's not allowed.
That's like LeBron James doing the young.
It can't do that.
It's over.
No, I need new addition to do their steps, man.
We need to never do this stuff.
And you're a grown-ass man in the crowd.
Don't do the steps.
Let them do it.
Let them do it.
I got friends of mine.
They're trying to do it.
Real guys.
20 in jail.
If it is a lot,
I'm like,
yo,
my man,
but you know what,
we love it.
We got a whole bunch of,
you know,
hardcore cats
be coming out of there
and just waiting to just waiting
to just say a Cupid.
It's like.
Yeah, you know,
we can do.
I'll sing it like that too.
That's what I'm talking about.
Nothing you could do with that one.
That Cupid.
Yeah.
That Cupid said last night.
It was amazing.
And,
player, y'all have to come see the show.
I'm sorry.
Like, it took me back.
I'm like, I just became a new fan of y'all's in rehearsal.
Now we're new fans again and seeing this show.
Y'all have to come to this show.
Go, Rich, see if we get cancer dinner tonight.
It's crazy.
Y'all got to come to the show.
So, Rich, don't want to cancel dinner tonight.
Yeah.
I got to come to the show.
You got to cut.
That was awesome.
That was awesome.
I got to come to show.
You pulled up on me.
It was an all-hip-hop show.
I think Sacramento or something.
Exactly.
I don't know.
What the fuck you was doing in Sacramento, but he pulled up.
Yeah, man.
Joe, what's up?
Big shout out of the E-40, you know what I say?
Don't join on.
Those song on and said he came and body the old stadium.
Exactly.
I knew it.
I know, man.
Come on, now.
No slim body, the whole fucking stadium.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Big shout out to all my family out there.
All the friends out there in Sacramento, everybody know I'm like,
I'm an Oakland Raiders fan.
So, you know what I'm saying?
Through and through.
So, you know what I did that one time, too?
I was on a run.
I caught you in Sacramento.
and then here
at Elda Bards.
He finally showed up.
You know, I've been chasing El DeBarge
my whole fucking life.
A man don't show up to shit.
I'm booking for my birthday.
Elder Bards don't show up to shit.
Oh, this shit.
Come on, man.
No, he ain't been paying attention
to my birthday parties.
Elder Bards, we had them.
To the point of where I was technically
bracky.
had Swiss beats,
got this fucking like
three, four million dollar
some shit with two seats.
Holy.
Some European shit.
So I see your Swiss.
Because to me,
El de Bard's like,
oh my God.
He's like a dog, right?
So I said,
Swiss,
I need you to pick up elder bars,
maybe a block away
and just pull up in front of the shit
with the, Swiss was coming
with the four,
he came with the four million.
You know, he got shit
that out of this world.
So Swiss was like,
hi,
so El de Barbar.
never got all that fucking plane.
You know what I'm saying?
I was hurt.
Yo, what you want me to do?
He didn't get on the fucking plane.
For one day, he's in New York.
He's like, yo, Joe, I'm here.
I'm like, here, here.
He's like, yo, I'm here.
I was like, I pull up with me.
We did Madison Square going for Dave Chappelle,
and I brought out, held the bars.
And he body.
and I like it.
This shit went crazy.
That was a dream come true.
You too, man, when you can't do.
We wish you much love and success.
I know everything going to be sold out
and it's going to lead to the bigger bag
because then we're going to start
like making it even bigger.
I'm saying?
We got guys.
We can make it even bigger.
After this run, no, no.
I mean, you know, I'm just, you know.
Because you're running.
Y'all driving the car.
Once this is totally successful, you bring two or three other people, then it goes from the theater to the arena.
That's what I'm telling you.
So you're going to bring a little two-clip, legends that we love that's going to come sing that shit.
You know, this guy, Jodice, man, he'd be this skinny.
He sing his fucking ass off, man.
What's my man?
What's my man?
No, no, Jodicy, yeah, but KC.
KC., right?
That motherfucker, no shirt.
on, they carry them through the fucking
audience. I'm just telling you, it's too many
legends that y'all could incorporate
with this on the way out.
I love it. Let me tell you
something, y'all deserve all the blessings.
You know, y'all keep it classy,
you're keeping great. Make sure y'all get
your tickets, man. Room 112
12. Your room 12. It's too easy.
We got
the 112 total
case. Yes.
Randy and Monica, I'm waiting for that shit.
It's a fly show.
You saw it already?
Came back into rehearsal like, what?
He was scraggled for real, right?
Yeah, exactly.
He was like, oh, something snapped in.
Monica's a friend.
Oh, yeah.
That's sister.
It really hurts for a long.
Can nobody believe me no more?
Monica's a friend.
Shout out Aunt one brother.
They don't want to fucking believe.
Fat Joe know nobody.
He thinks he only know everybody.
Right?
She was a friend.
They were hers.
I don't have any friends.
Yeah.
They do.
No, I got some friends.
I don't.
I do.
And so they were hurt.
I'm going to that shit.
You have to.
I told them I'm one billion percent.
I'm also going to go to the boister men, Tony Braxton.
Yeah.
New edition.
Yeah, that's about to be crazy.
Man is the only show I miss.
Oh, you got to go to that.
Yeah, we are.
We are good in the word.
Like, you can't miss it.
Yeah, that's history.
That's history in the making.
How could you miss that shit?
You can't miss.
Yeah.
Boyst the men.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Did you guys guys?
Yeah.
Tony Braxton?
Tony.
I like the boys and men, that shit.
Everything it is is incredible.
But I like that shit.
What he said, you know, he moved on.
It moved on.
Oh, yeah.
What's that song?
Without you in my life.
Yeah.
I'm doing just fun.
I'm doing just fine.
I'm doing just fine.
Like, don't worry about me.
I'm doing it.
Yeah.
Now, I ain't in front.
Now, I ain't, y'all.
Water's going to dry for me.
Yeah, yeah.
Water's all that first.
The boys have cataloged.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
The boys got catalog.
Yeah.
Now, if we could, we could take one of the songs,
like, water runs dry for me.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Good Lord.
Yeah.
Which one, water?
What was, we don't even talk anymore.
Yeah.
I need a little
you know
about
yeah
yeah
I need the rose
in my mouth
I would
Sad Joe
Mad Joe
would have been
on
bullshit
R&B
sing
fat Joe
I didn't
have the rose
in my mom
we don't eat
talk
I don't know
but look
look
remember
Badi
LeB
you did the R&B
handgrap shit
you did the R&B
handgrap shit
that was
that was
Patty LaBelle used to kick her shoes off.
I'd have been acting a fool as an armistice.
Like, disgusting, man.
I remember one, your man, Luther, who's my favorite scene all the time.
He had that shit with a mic go there.
He walked by and going, hey.
Hang!
I'd be up a deck.
He this small.
I'm like, yo!
I'm up a deck with a three-piece suit on looking like a bus driver.
I didn't even have money.
I ain't had no money then.
You know when your sky blue shirt,
you look like you driving a fucking bus?
Hey.
Hey.
Oh,
Blue job.
Man, that R.B. shit, a different...
Yeah, that's true.
Galaxy skin.
It's a beast.
Shout out to all.
You guys do us a service.
You guys make us happy.
Some people going through depression.
Some people going through.
whatever. I was about to tell you early.
It was you.
Even Fat Joe will give up the turkey
dinner for tickets to total
112, bro. So I
got to see my people, man.
When they come through, I got to be there.
I'm a fan of the music. I don't want
to miss it. Thank you.
I don't want to miss it. Y'all better go
out for some tickets.
I appreciate it. Thank you. Should I change
up? Because they're on their first shit. I might have
to go bring out the grizzly.
You know what I said? You see what these ladies is?
Oh, no, I'll pull the shit out.
That's your staying by itself.
Hey, man, dress.
She got the lying breathing still in that shit.
I'm not trained.
I got premeditated murders.
I promise you, I'm not threatening lightly.
Don't fuck with me because I come up on there and be like,
oh, so, God.
Man, we put the sound effect here.
I got to come floating.
We might have to come floating.
He said give him the mic.
We're going to give him the mic, man.
You know what I said?
We're going to come out of it.
We were like, uh-uh, uh-uh.
You know, I should did that shit to me.
He made me perform the greatest hits, man.
I'm scared to go to our Usher show.
I'm trying to.
I should say, go, Joe, go.
I said, God, Dave, I'm on.
Song number 10.
Holy shit.
But listen, we love y'all.
This ain't that.
That ain't this.
It's cracking kiss.
Take some noise for 112 in total, y'all.
Let's go out for me.
So you get your tickets.
Make sure you stay updated
to the Rule 112 talk
coming to a shitty niggie.
What happened when you see these young kids
wearing vans and all that shit
and you wore that shit back then?
Come on, man.
They come starting on us.
Like, they got some new shit.
I'd be like, yo, my nigga.
Check, 1999.
I had the shit on.
I don't know what the fuck
y'all talking about it.
My shit is, yo, bro, we wore that shit.
Yeah, right.
They think it's their shit.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, sir.
Thank you for having us.
So much, man.
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