The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - 2 Chainz talks NEW BOOK, Atlanta's hip hop legacy & WILD Jay-Z story

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss chop it up with Atlanta legend 2 Chainz, who pulls up to the show fresh off his book tour for The Voice in My Head is God. 2 Chainz breaks down the philosophy behind the title and how trusting his inner voice has been the throughline of his entire career. The three legends talk his collaborations with Kanye West, the phone call with Jay-Z early in his career that didn’t go as planned, and Atlanta's legacy in the hip hop game. 2 Chainz’s mother pulls up and the conversation shifts to family, bloodlines, and what happens when one generation decides to break the mold. Plus, G-Dep makes a surprise appearance, Joe credits his influence on ‘Lean Back,’ and they celebrate his freedom after a 13-year prison term. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 03:45 Atlanta's Legacy / Unity, Collaboration and Adapting to Survive 09:00 New book The Voice in My Head is God 15:00 NBA All-Star stories 19:00 Jada calls CAP on Joe's "no light bulbs" story 30:30 2 Chainz's mother joins 41:30 Jay-Z phone call story 45:30 Collaborating with Kanye 49:00 G-Dep makes a surprise appearanceSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is Joe Crack the Dawn. This is your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. And you see my man got the links on. We crush you. Damn you love her.

I got my brother Nadine in the bed. I'm going to bring Nadine in like two minutes. Listen, today's guests. Today's guess. When you think of today's guests, you got to think of the South. You know what I mean? You got to think of Atlanta. You've got to think of bars.

You've got to. think of swag. You got to think of basketball. You got to think of very family orientated. Even got Mama Love in the building. You got to think of a great businessman. Got to think of somebody that does stuff for the community. Annually, yearly, dearly.

You got to think of someone who was able to overcome adversity. He came in as a member of group, bought himself out of his contract, came back solo, duct taped itself to a rocky ship, and took over the world. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother,

two chas. Two chas! What's up, player? What's up, my brother? How y'all, man? What's good. I'm happy to be on here. You can land of the A.

That's right, man. Man, that shit is so prestigious to me. I tell them every time, Every time I go to Atlanta, I feel like home, you know. Restaurants. And you were alleged, huh? I thought you was going to say the restaurants. I love everything about the A.

I love everything about the A. You just hate it. You didn't buy a house there when you were supposed to. Back in the day when I was supposed to buy a house. I was like Miami and Lina. You know what I'm saying? I owed to Miami. 23 for, I ain't have it.

Like maybe I didn't. Listen, I'm a ghetto dude with some money. You know what I'm saying? I take baby steps. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I was pulling the trigger. Sometimes I wasn't. But I love Atlanta.

You're a major fixture in Atlanta. What's it like coming from Atlanta from day one? How many years you've been rapping now and in your career, you've seen so many people blow up from Atlanta or before you? What's that like being from? from that. This band from the city, I was able to see it evolve, go through many errors, go through heavy bass-driven, heavy, maybe dance-driven to the trap, to, you know, all the different

errors, but they all still very much remain in today's music, parts of it, like DNA from it. And just having Atlanta as your landscape coming up, I think builds resilience and also gives you discipline and you got to be able to adapt. You know what I'm saying? Coming from Atlanta, like it's just in a given day these situations are changed. So I think adapt, build it. What am I trying to say? Being able to adapt is like an advantage coming from Atlanta.

know, once you lead the city, you're able to take those, the skillsets that you learned in the city and just apply to every room. I know I have, so every room I'm in, there's still, like, Atlanta's there with me. That's the energy that I'm always holding on to. We're not from there, so we always, I've always seen unity in Atlanta. That's how I've always felt. I always felt like these guys stick together. They push each other. They work with each other.

they support each other. Tell me about the unity coming up in Atlanta. You know, what's that about? Collaborating is always like a good idea in the city, not just in music, but in business too. I think we're all open to working together in some sort of way. And that removes a lot of the pocket watching and the jealousy that you would see in other areas

because of the fact that we are open to share LLCs or share a mic booth. So, you know, music is just an extension of the energy that the city has as far as working together and being, you know, being collaborative. How do you feel after Duffelback Boys? For those that don't know how long you've been on a grizzly doing your one, two.

It seemed like right after that, the elevator was stuck on the up out of hooflet. Yeah, man. Just, man, my commitment and my resilience, man, I'm self-motivated. You know, like, you can't, you can't buy the motivation.

You can't buy ambition, you know what I'm saying? So through my self-evaluation, man, I get up and I just got that energy. Like, I'm him and I can just reach heights. And early on, I was one of those that was arrogant before I got in the game.

I just looked at everybody in the game, look at all my peers and be like, I can get with this person. I can get with this person. As soon as I got in the game, I started to, I became more humble

because I saw, like, the arrogant people, how their, how their... Percentage? How it kind of played out over time. Like, the arrogant on the way up,

they rub people the wrong way, then on the way down, people don't care much about them because they remember how you made them feel. And so I kind of dim my arrogance once I got in the game, but it's still very much internal. You know what I mean? And when I got in, I just had so much to prove to not just everybody else but to myself. You know what I mean? I just ask people all the time, like, you knew you was going to beat it? Like people that didn't ask you.

Like, when did you know you was going to be a rabble? because I felt like I was going to be something. I always knew I was going to be something. You know what I mean? And I always knew I was going to be successful. And that's kind of like what some of my book is indicating. Like, I got this inner monologue. I got this divine Godness that, like, navigate.

It's like my navigation. It just leads me to success, man. Speaking on the book, The Voice in My Head is God. Yeah. What a title. The title was amazing. I ain't talking about it is captivating. Could you hear God?

Well, that's what I'm trying to tell you. If you ever said something told me, you know, something told me to call my man's up here to get this, whatever, something told me to. This guy wasn't good. Something told me or something. Something told me a million times. That's it.

He's dumb. That something is it. I did it. I'm the guinea pig for this. I don't listen to this, but when I ain't listened, I don't had different outcomes. When I've listened, I just been, you know what I'm saying? It's just been like, and it's, the thing is, it's not like a loud voice, but it's clear. It's telling you, man, Joe, stay your ass in the house. It's saying, hey, kiss, man, don't even answer the phone or make sure.

you answer the phone. You know what I'm saying? You missed that call. Your homie takes you from from prayers. Man, this is such a stuff, man. Some told me, I don't answer calls. I don't know. Man, something told me I should answer the call.

You know, I don't miss my, whatever that is. So I'm in the book just using examples of how that is God. The title, The Voice is My Conscience. Intuition, think intuition, gut feeling. You know what I'm saying? Good feeling. Something told me to get out of there. something is time to go.

I'm one of those people that just leave places. I'm really one of those people I'm rolling for guns. It's time to go. There's something just tell me it's just time to go. It don't mean somebody

has been to shoot up the place. It just be like, but it just mean like give a fuck. Yeah, so when I'm putting something out to the world, this is like something for my community to try to tell a player like,

it's okay to like, hush down the noise and listen to that voice and actually believe it like the voice is like it warns you before it and it comes before trauma ego fear any of that stuff right but you can't see what it's trying to so you got to kind of have faith on like whatever it's trying to tell you right because it's like hey i'm telling you keep straight but you don't know why it's telling you to keep straight instead of turning left you know what

mean and i'm really i tell you i have this voice and this i almost feel like like man people asked me, but are you always coming up with something? How you come over this stuff? Like, now I'm just going to tell people in the book, like this is really how I've been operating so long. It's almost like a secret. It's not a secret, but this is how I've been moving, whether you believe it, operating those terms or not. But I have this, this conference, this internal conference that helps me make decisions daily from business decisions to what I'm aware, everything, bro.

You know, when it happens to me, well, for years, I didn't know God was sending, me messages and stuff like that. And then once I notice that whenever I can't sleep at, because I can sleep anyway, shit will be you. I'm sleeping. When I can't sleep,

now I know. I've been through it enough that now I be like, all right, God, what you're trying to tell me? Yeah. So I start thinking of everything, and then that's how I come up with like a plan, whether it's business, life, family, whatever. When I can't sleep,

Now, I mean, I'm like, all right, what you're trying to say, because, you know, I know I can't sleep, could you try and let me know something? And then you're going over with yourself internally, you know what I'm saying? And I think that's just a message. I'm trying to put out, like, you have to have experience. You have to go through life to know, like, this means something. You have to not sleep for so many nights before you realize, like, this is God trying to speak. to me. So that's what this book, you got to, I couldn't have wrote this book

when I was 20, 30, you have to live long enough. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Let me ask one more question. People so selfish. Right? What made you share this in your book with the world and let people know what you know? What's your secret to success? Your drive

to success. What made you share it with the world? Because a lot of people, I'll tell you my story about it. I've heard it a hundred times, but I'll tell you my flip side of the story. But what made you say, you're going to share this with the world? I think legacy, leaving something behind,

some type of literature that's not just an autobiography or anything like that, like something real, that has substance, something that shows growth and evolution, you know, something that speaks to an audience outside of hip hop as well. When you speak about intuition,

this ain't just about no bars or about what after party to show up to. This is bigger than that. So when I talk about intuition, I talk about it like it's like a sixth sense. That's a real superpower for me. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's inside of me.

They're telling you this whole time. Boy, God is in you. God is, the blessings coming from within. You don't got all these hints. That's what a marinier. What a marinier is. It's the God and me. And I brought it.

It's the God and me. That's what I keep hearing. Mary, Mary, yeah. It's crazy. I was reading some excerpt from the book, and I've seen you saying, in 2012 All-Star, you already felt like him

before you got in the gym. But once you got in there, you got, the love was in abundance. And you went to your seat, which was a little couple 20 rolls up. They, like, screw that, man. I'm going to work my way down. Course side.

And I just got more love for Mary and people like that. Then so I understand that intuition, that confidence. You said one day I'm going to get there or you just went down. No, he had tickets. I was up with him. But you wasn't split. I sat next to you and like four or three or four, me and you. I don't squeeze between, I done all type of stuff before.

This is really what happened. You're your son, mama. It's a funny dude I went to All-Star I did something Bung out with him at All-Star The things he be saying in that Listen I went to the All-Star one year

And one of my homies Disrespectingly a young lady That worked for the I saw you need Yes and you know what I mean So you know that trinkled down to me So what what connection I used to have Was almost like

I had to start figuring things out of my own But I really love the game I really love basketball so much that I go and just figure it out. So this is one time I went. I'm up. And you know, you just know you only can't be supposed to be up here.

Like, it ain't like I'm being ambitious. I either sold some weed to some of these rappers. I actually done verses and songs with them. Boy, I don't just got up. You know, security be. Let me get you. Let me get you. I tell everybody, if you act like he's supposed to be there.

I'm supposed to be. Hey, man. You get to, you get to looking at for like they trying you, they disrespecting you, asking for something, you know, and predansial or lambing. Boy, I get the walking and do what you do. You don't be looking them all in the eyes and you're saying. You know what I'm saying?

Because, see, this is my other take. Anytime you're riding and you see Twill, you look twirl right in the eyes. You're finished. You've bought to get whipped over, man. Well, if you don't look at them, they'll pull you over too. No, no, no, no. If you don't, this, when you're not. Not a criminal.

You don't care about the police, you don't care. Only people that's criminal. We're the only one do all kind of old little shit that they try. I'm telling you, right up on.

I'm telling you, motherfuckers, look in the mirror and all that shit, man. That's why you're on poster. Listen, man, you're posing not even stun them,

man. So that's how I am with knowing I'm supposed to be somewhere. I ain't even, I'm just, so I'm just turning a business. But yeah, those are,

those. He's out, he, Deneeneen in the building the Daniel's level. Come in, Nadine, the man,

The man of him The store? No, no, no, we got it, but I mean, I see the face it, but he got to go to that store. He got a pluror. He got a plug. He got to plug his blast. The infamous Daniel.

For your ass coming out here on my said, I'm going to need something. He wouldn't live. Oh, that's for a long time from the way. They all need is crossing all, cross now, cross on my path. Did I make that for 2020? M sports.

Hey, man. Hey, man. I'm a name. need that in a Tony size. You did what I'm saying? Get him a life long. I already worked with him before. I'm coming on.

And you keep talking about before, past 10. This ain't about ED. He's talking about. Hey, listen. With his height, she's going to be player. She's going to be flared. You know what my high. I don't have to do much, but with that height, shit there.

He over here. Yeah. I'm sitting with him all start. He talks about the basketball players. Yeah. You asked some Versace shit, the only Kanye wore some shit. You was like, you see this Versaci shit joke? Them motherfuck a seven-foot, they wish they had this Versace shit.

No, no, no, no, no. Let me become clean. I feel like I'm the reason why brands start making shit for Hoop. Who? Nigglers used to see me and be like, hey, Shardot, what's the shoe you well? Because I'm having on something just, you know what I'm saying? I'm having on. And they see me.

I'm a real true six-five. I'm an NBA point guard size. You get what I'm saying. So when they see me having it on, I believe it is my belief that early on when they started caring about dressing, they didn't used to care about dressing, bro. Basketball player didn't used to care about dressing. But, like, you see somebody tall, like, can put it on, you know what I mean?

Then I think he... You know, you were super tall guys. You all talk the same shit, right? Like, because Drey from Kooling Drey, he'd be like, you know, 6-7. jump out to Rose Royce. They automatically know I'm a ball playing.

I'm like, yo, Jay. They always got that same monologue, man. Let me tell you something, yo, two chains, you bug got. But I thought I was the only one that thought shit like that in my head. Like, when I wear that shit, I'd be like, yo, I got them.

But you were speaking it out loud. The voice in you was out loud. Well, sometimes that's when they get the same, man, you must be. You got imaginary friends. You talking to yourself? So that's when they get like that. But for the most part, Joe, you care too much, not to talk to yourself.

You really give a fuck about your appearance. So I know in your head you like, oh, yeah. I'm going to go pink on them. Yeah, I'm the witness on that way. I'm going, I'm still there. I'm the witness on that. You're absolutely right for him. Every little detail.

Yeah. Even the coat that he's wearing, he chose the zipper. We had to find this zipper and this slider. He was so specific about how it is. Time out, what's the first thing I said when I sent the coat? What's the first thing I said about the cup? Zipper. I know you talked about the Zipter.

Yeah. He's funding the zippers. Can't buy a super expensive coat and have a cheap zipper on. Your shit got to be quality. No, no, no, no. You know what? He can't wear fucking links in the zipper halls. We had a whole team running trying to find this exactly.

I ain't got to be like this and all that shit. You know, they're people try to cut corners, man. and do like cheap shit. I'm not, listen, I ain't into the cheap shit, man. You ain't in the current cornice. You know, he ain't has shit. You know what I'm saying?

I don't want to curse too much in front of your mom's is off the camera, but I didn't have nothing. So I tell these guys all the time, I had nothing. I was a bum. I had nothing. What's wrong?

Kids, you're tired of here. When I was a little kid running around in elementary, the teachers was looking at me like, yo, this nigga going to jail. He's dying. Because what I thought? You heard this one before? No.

You heard this one? It's a rerun? Heavy show. It's a rerun? That's a re-wrong? That's the repeat. That you never forget when you can. You never forget.

I don't. I don't. I wake up. You can buy your projects now. I walk around my house. And I look at the light bulb. Mama, I look at the light bulb. I'm like, yo, we got these light bulbs?

This is crazy. You believe. we got this light bulb. Like, yo, we ain't had nothing. You know, he's trying to gas, he didn't have the lightbow? No, I think I'm going to do Ancestry.com just to really, really bring out the proof of

how we ain't have shit for like three, four hundred years. I'm going to bust out the whole generation. By the way, by the way, Joe, Cousin Tito wasn't shit. Cousin Pablo wasn't shit. Yo, listen, listen. Auntie Miriam. Listen, listen, listen. Listen, this why I ain't do no book.

Because it's my love you. This is why my book, not an autobiography because rap was going, going to go 300 years to let you know how bad it was for him. I ain't want to compete with the struggle, like how bad it was.

I ain't want to compete with another. You read another, man, you had a bad, you read, you read brush it. He slept in a, you know, on a light ball. Yeah, he didn't even have lightbulb. Like, who's going to beat that? I tell you my struggle, and then Joe saying, we got the light switch, we got the crib.

We don't light, but we got no light. But we had a light ball. We have light. We'll be good. You know, I went to my apartment in the projects, and I'm going to be honest with you, rest of peace. My dad, I cannot believe that he stood for that shit. I just, and my father's always been a hard worker.

He probably was just too scared to buy a house or some shit like that. when he died left me a couple of dollars my father's not no bum but i just couldn't believe when i went there how he went for this shit how he had his kids in here how he had his fucking wife in here this was some bullshit even if i was fucked up and i was a baker mechanic i'd have got my ass out of that shit if you don't know nothing like as a grown man as a kid i ain't know no better i'm looking at the shit he don't you you only at what you say when i got grown and saw that shit i said No. Man, you don't want it your pops to have your frame of mind now back then with the money that was...

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What's the news, name? Huge news. we created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.

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We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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My mama told me all the time, like, she don't know where I got this thinking from, like, why I won a big house. She said, like, when she was done, like, people around her, like, having won a trailer was like a thing. Your own trailer was a big thing. So for some... Mama, I'm not going to lie. I need you here, Mama.

Come here for a sec. Please. If you got to sit right there. Or sit right there. Give her the... They won't shy here. Closer to me, she'll be better, right? Here's the only second mother we got.

Alan Arison's mother was the first one. Two, James Margs, the second one. Come on, baby. Come on here, baby. Mama got that shit on, too. Let me tell you. Mama got the full length. Hey, hey, my daughter, Nadie.

You see how I come in with the full link meat, motherfucking now? We're going to need a different color, the same length for her. Yes, sir. No problem. You heard him now. You don't lie to women. You like a good stand-up. No, he don't. He's an honorable man. Mama, mama, he's a lot of the biggest in the game. Mama, you go back how many years of your, how many years can you, can you go back in your family?

Like, can you think as far as your grandfather? Can you go to your great-grandfather? I can go to my grandmother and grandfather. So you go back to your grandfather? Yeah, my granddad. Anybody thought like your son? No. No, he was different then. He's smart. He's caring. He's compassionate. And he'd been the only child. And I really didn't want any children, to be honest. And then I thought, well, I wouldn't see what my offspring would be like. So I did conceive and had him and didn't want any more. And he's kind of been self-sufficient, even at Bird. You know, he was no problems. He was the first kid to go to the all-white private school. school at the age of four on account of his birthday came in September.

And back then, we went to school in August, but your birthday came after registration. So it would kind of leave you behind if we had left you there. So we had to move you to the private school so you could stay ahead. And he's been like as long as he had the good old boy guitar and the gangs, Pac-Man gangs that he had and his tricycle that he didn't want to give up for a bicycle. He didn't want that. But, and he had a father, his father was very nurturing and trainable. He, you know, taught him a lot at the early age, like trying to have him drive it.

How are you driving over the projects? Driving the car. And he's just been, he's smart. I love him. Okay, Mom, we did. You did. You did. You did.

You did. Because I like, you know, when I look at guys like, like. two chains and kids and Lee and stuff like that. Yeah, we might have had great families, great upbringings or whatever the case, but there's something in the mentality of entrepreneurs, you know, go-getters, won't stop at nothing, you know. And we're talking about this family lineage,

and you was right there. So I said, yo, let me ask if, because, you know, they think I'm bugging out and I'd be like, yo, I could think back into my family as far as I could go. Wasn't nobody really thinking like me, you know? So it was like, I'm trying to figure this out, like the DNA of an artist or something, right? It's evolution, man. It's evolution and it's inevitable for hopefully your bloodline to grow into something.

You know what I mean? And it takes your ancestors to build you up to that. But I think eventually you give birth to something that breaks whatever curse they came before that. You know what I'm saying? That becomes the first entrepreneur. Well, I'm not the first entrepreneur, but the first millionaire or whatever that is, you know. I think that's in everybody family, man. Everybody, it was only a small amount of people that never struggled.

Like, I just know we all were a part of the struggle. Like, I just know we all were. You know what I mean? But we're doing a great job of not letting it happen again. Like, moving forward, I know we all have kids that we just pour so much into, you know what I mean? Like, for a fact, everybody on here, you know what I'm saying? We just, everybody know we care about our kids, brother. It's just like, so.

Mama, what are you most proud of your son? The family man that is, yeah. Mm-hmm. Congratulations to your daughter, too. She just got accepted right to. Yeah, my daughter's headed to college. Yep. She on a senior trip right now, man.

And I'm just, need you to come home. Because she went, they went to Mexico. And I didn't want her to go to Mexico. I didn't want her to go to Mexico. But, you know, sometimes the media be, because she having fun, she ain't thinking about what's going on, you know what I mean? But I'm just like, I'm just being.

I'm just being that parent. It's like, man, all right, you straight, everything, cool. But they're having a good time. Then I got to have a middle, I have three kids, my middle child. It's 13. She's about to be in high school. And then, like, a lot of people know my son, Halo, because we have a podcast together.

And he's 10 years old. And that's what I'm, that's it, man. It's just like my little Brady bunch, for real. You know, a little tribe. I'm the same way with my daughter, you know what I'm saying? I ain't plug in. She got a podcast called As If y'all want to check her out on YouTube. But I'm the same way.

And I've been like looking at the house. I've been thinking like the head. I've been like, you know, one day this girl going to get married. Like she's not going to be here forever. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy when you think about that.

You know what I'm saying? Because you're like, yo, she's going to leave one day. Like that's crazy. Like house won't be the same without. I also want to be the same without the kids. But, you know, the thing we all, you know, you've heard that there's no manual to teach you how to be a parent, but I think we all did the best we could, what we had. And, you know, I know my mom did an amazing job with me, being a single mother coming from the household, you know what I'm saying, being joined by the help. You know what I mean?

You know what I'm saying? Just staying down just if she just knows that I'm an ambitious person. And I got that hustle, I got that grit. And it's just really unexplainable. It's like, for real, like being, like, it's like being raised by wolves. Just know how to, I keep saying, it's just got to know how to adapt, man. And I think that's one of my super problems. You doing a book tour for the book?

Yeah, I'm doing a book tour. I've been in New York a couple of days running around, dropping some gyms about why now, you know what I'm saying? And what's the book about? You know what I mean? And even this right here, it's just like, it's just another way for me to be creative, man. It almost feels like I'm dropping a project.

Right. But like, even this cover, it's pastel art done by an artist I found. His name is Dorese Walker. He's an artist. He's like an independent artist. It's not a part of a gallery, but I'm going to plug him because he's a brother.

And he got, so this is a drawing of me. This is not a real picture. This is a drawing. It's fine. Yeah, I'm just everything I, do. Fire, Joe. Let me tell you what else, about this book. Let me tell you what else. Let me tell you what else. Let me tell you what else is fire.

If you're not a reader, I understand. That's a lot going on. All the rappers can't read. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, no, I was on this one getting into. I did my audio book. In my words, it's fine. Let me tell you why it's fine. I'm fin of kid you. The audio book, I got production. It's scoring.

So when I'm reading certain parts of the book, you get to hear the scene in the background of the audio. I'm just over at the other station. I had to do, I had to do Gail King this morning. You know, I'm on platform. I'm on Tony, right? I had to do stuff like that. Little, little, little, look.

Old white ladies say, I just listen to the audio. She said, it's amazing. She said, it's amazing Joe. She said, she said it had noise and stuff going on. That's just the mind. I have layers. I think in layers. And so this book, the voice in my head is God, is just me.

My interpretation of someone saying something told me. It's right here. Something told me. Something told me to come to the Joe. And say, when I come to New York, I got to figure out a way to come. Rock with Joe and Jada Cadees, my guys. I'd be honest with you. None of the mother, Gail King's and all of them don't matter.

It's once you come on this couch that matter. These other guys playing yourself, why would you waste of a saliva? Like, these people getting got shit movement like us. We got the motion. You're like I didn't come here. You're like, I didn't tell you. You are like, I didn't tell you.

You are like you said and I ain't tell you. I told you why I was that. You know, that's what I'm here to talk at you. I'm here to irritate the competition. Oh, you're doing that. You're doing that. You're all, New York, niggas, man. Yeah, we're on that bullshit, man.

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Show of Jadishow.com. Go there and get it. I was... I thought that number one, dad, what? From the book, he turned down hold. He wouldn't get his man and his DJ, a extra flight. He turned a whole meeting there.

That's not. That might have not been the right thing, man. Turning down off? That's not true, man. It's not true. Everything happens for a reason. No, this is, I hate to quit bringing a man name up because I have other contexts and other things to talk about.

But it is, but let me just talk about, let me just tell you about this. It's a chapter in here called J.D. and J.Z on three ways. So I got a call one day. Sort of. I read that. Yeah, so I got a call one day with J.D. on the phone. And I guess him and Hoh, we're about to do a partnership, right? All right. my man that I went right down the corner right now, his name is Tech.

His name used to be DJ Techniques, right? So when I first started piping up in the streets, Tech came to me and said, Hey, man, I think you're a star. I said, nigger me too. You know what I'm saying? And he said, I feel like I can do whoop-de-whoop-wooop-de-woo with my resources and blah, blah, blah. And I said, man, if you can even run that, if you can help me get that right there, then I'm locked in with you.

And we shook hands. Fast forward, like eight, nine months later, I'm piped up. I'm moving around. Yeah. Okay. He's really not a DJ anymore because he's taking more of a management role, right? He's not a DJ. And so when I get this call during the phone conversation,

I'm just trying to, and I don't know why I can't even articulate this, that I wanted to bring him with me. They's thinking it's a DJ because I'm trying to say his name, but JD really don't even know who this is because it wasn't like he just tapped into Atlanta like that at the particular time. You know what I'm saying? It's like an Atlanta DJ, you know what I mean? And so, like, bro, what do you? It probably, in retrospect, I probably sound crazy. I probably sound stupid saying, but I'm bringing my DJ to him. Like, bro, you don't have no show, but I wasn't trying to do that.

I was trying to bring my man. Who has said, man, I see something in. You had already seen some in me, but I just told you how arrogant I was. I used to be frustrated because I'm like, why this ain't happening for me? You know what I mean? And it's really about you getting your internal team. Once you get a team together, things can flourish. So once I got my team, I started getting on everybody's radar.

So when that call happened and whatever happened throughout the call, and I didn't go, I talked about it in the book because people ask me like, what the head was the voice telling you to do then when big homie called. You know what I'm saying? With big homie call. And the thing I tell somebody like, at that particular time,

my moral conference just saying, I ain't want to lead dog and say, I'm going to tell you about the meeting. I can't sit here and tell you I ain't want to fuck with dog or don't want to do business with dogs. I've seen the track record. I'm not ignorant. I'm highly intellectual, actually.

But during that particular time, my accomplice is saying and so that's another reason why I tell DJs like Caled or a drum or him you need to take the DJ shit off your name. Niggas think that's your first name. So take that off your name. I got a boy named Rich the Barber. He used to be a barber. He's

rich as fuck right now. And we still call him Rich the Barber, but he'd be like, yo, I'm not barbbing them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, so that's the story. It was no, it was not like... It's a miscommunication. A miss missed, it received it. I was excited. I was definitely excited about the car, and I was excited to, you know,

but this is before, you know, the album, this is before all the stuff. You know, I can't say everything that I've done this right or wrong. This is just like part of, it's just a part of my life, you know what I'm saying? And so, yeah, yeah, yeah. But so I'm, you know,

obstacles to go through. And to me, even when you fall, it's just a lesson. You got to look at the lesson. Everything don't go your way. You've got to look at the lesson. These lawyers right now, they're killing me, B.

These prices is all the way up. Yesterday price, and I'm just like, yo, Joe, it's temporary. Temporary. Keep your head up and keep it moving because certain things happen to you where you be like at that moment you could be frustrated, but then you just got to look at it and be like, yo, it's a lesson. Everything's a lesson. So it's like it is what it is.

I wish you would have went to see. But, you know. You never know, Don't. How did the Kanye, the Kanye, because to me, that was some of your worst, not worse, your best work with that whole good family. That, what happened.

He'd be onking sometime. No, no, I'm bugged out. I'm fried. But what I mean is, I love how you was going crazy on that Kanye work when y'all put that album out together. you were, you was going nuts on them on that joint right there. How did that whole thing come about with you, like,

you had like a superpower team, push your, all of y'all, what, meet Sean? No, you know, you called me. I'm telling you, I'm so piped up these folks calling me. You know what I'm saying? You call you, said, y'all, I want you to be a member. I'm calling you. I want you to, you know what I mean?

I went through, like, a little, I wouldn't even call the boot camp. Like, you know what I'm saying? at home, like, want somebody to record something now, and I'm fire like that. I call it Benny Hunters. I call it like cooking in front of a nigga to look. Shoot, shoot, shoot, chew, chew, throwing stripping niggas with my house and shit. I do all that. No fire.

Yeah, I do the whole heartbeat shit. I do. I love, you know what I mean? So, so you want to tell me, you want to tell me, like, let's do a song in front of these people. Like that's right. Yeah, that's one of my things. I'm prepared. I'm bootstrapped and ready.

So after I did that a few times and the stuff I'm doing, high level. It's not like, you know what I'm saying? No bouffa. It's real high level. You know what I mean? No cut on it. So after you do that a few times, man, you might get, you might get a few phone calls, Joe. That's all I can tell you, Joe. Hey, your phone might start by them, Joe. I sit here with this guy all the time. He top five, dead or alive. What you mean? Nasty man. These guys, they be like, yo, can I get your number kiss? I need you on a song. No, nobody asks me to be on a song. I'm just saying it be rich as fuck. That's my language. That's my language. That's all I ever do.

time they come to him your kiss. I want to do a song with you. I'll be like, yeah, did you see the links? What do you want me to do? No, no, no, no, no. Joe, you, Joe, let me tell you something, man. You're, you're, I'm going to tell you this right here, man. You need a wonderful song.

Let me tell you something, man. You made wonderful song. You're a great songmaker, bro. I'm going to come to my top to the bottom like a song for a song. You do that shit. That's like, that's what you, like, you fire, bro. why he gives me. Yeah, you know, you're a good son, man.

You ain't gonna play. You know, your own son. You don't get him at the nick game with him. Every rapping, yo, son, I need you on. No, but he liked that, though. Me like I'm chopped living. No, no, no, no.

You know what I'm going to ask him? Because he rags his, it's out the park. Yeah, the nigger boozy. That's a, that's a boogey. You don't want to miss him out. I was going to do. No, no, no. No, man.

You don't got bougie. You don't got bougie uncle. Bring one more surprise guest. Got nothing to do with you, but I was coming up and I seen him and I said, your brother, come through. My brother, G. Dap. Come here for a second, GDat.

The deputy. Fallam zone. G. Let's get mom. All right, thank you, Mama. Thank you, Mama. Thank you, Mom. Thank you, Mom. You look beautiful, baby.

Thank you, baby. My mama says, my mom be 76 this year. You know, my mom, might not be 76. She'll be 76 this year. Let me give you another surprise. You go to Daniel Lover, that fur on me. You pick out whatever you want. Get some shit, drive it.

I like that, man. Make it touch the ground. Mama, make sure the fur drag on the floor. It's on me. Oh, man, they capping new y'all. That's no cat. Who that right out there is, Mama? There's no cap.

I don't play those games. I don't play those. You, G, Dad. Hold on, I introduced them. When he came in, I introduced them. Yeah, changed the death. Hey, I'm telling you, me. It's real, what's pop shit right there?

Nigel. Fugler. Dill, brun. Dill shit hard. I told them a little while ago. There's no lean back if it's no G-Dep. Okay. When I was writing that verse, I was thinking G-Dep the whole time.

He had to take that from, his flow keep going, like, I don't know how to explain it to you, but it kept coming. Which flow? Home-goy. Yeah, he got rain. Which flow? He got deaf from, man. Home. He had to explain it.

at the time was so on fire that he was just, he had like to continue, like, I don't give fuck by force and this happens. We from the Bronx, New Yorkshire. Kiss clapping, spark. You see?

That was that G-D. Chopped liver. No, no, no. I'm just saying that was that G-G-D-D. That was that G-D-Dap, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, at least in my mind, I thought I was rapping like G-G-G.

We were off bad boy already. And I was on the C's album, and he got a song with him, C's, and Buster. He was, I'm like, who the hell is? They're like, that's G. Depp, man. Wow. That's crazy, man. The Rush, right? What's his name of that song?

The, um, uh, something with... No danger. More dangerous. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Depp, you've been home close to, what, a year now? Almost two years. No, that'll make some noise for that.

Thank you, man. Thank you, man. It's beautiful. on this side, man. No doubt. That's right. Yeah, man. I've seen you on a freestyle

on YouTube. You was killing it up on that joint. You still got it, man. Thank you, brother. He just told me he got a project with him and Black Rob that's coming out.

Oh, that's good on that. You should work with everybody. Nobody wants me up and I'd be. You don't want one in the missing tonight. Trichet, I'm not allowed to you. You don't front of Fadjo if you tell the truth. It's okay. I'm trying to move in.

Man. Fat Joe, man. Fat Joe, he's scared that. Fadjo, man. Fadjoo, man. It's bougie, man. Out of this range. You caught side everywhere you go.

You enrich the bar. You go. That's sick, yo, man. Yo, let me tell you something. Yo, but Gap, man, we're proud of you being home for two years. Definitely. Of the world,

because you, you and it, so you got cell phones in there when you was locked up, or you, was it crazy when you came home? Because I knew when you first came home, I could tell what was moving out here or the way this shit was looking was like weird to you. Like you was in jail, how many years? 13. You came out.

It was modern technology. I could tell by watching you on the ground. I was like, oh, man, this guy, he got to adjust. I said, he's going to get to it. There's usually anybody who comes off the street foot. But it was, you know, we had the tablets in there. So we kind of, you know what I mean? We're actually a little extremilated to like the, you know, the little icon movement and all of that.

But it was definitely, definitely a coach's shot when I came home. Yeah, things was different, right? Yeah. Everything was just so instant, you know what I mean? I tell everybody, you know, before I left, you couldn't order for McDonald's and all that. Like, just, you know, somebody. You know, that's crazy. Now you watch TV.

Ring your bell and pass you there. So I was like, what? You watch TV? And the thing just says if you want to order this right now. You can be a big, this guy's wearing a shirt on, City Live. You don't want to order it. I swear the guy.

It's like that on the TV. You're only holding up the video game. It's okay. You go order sneakers. You can order. You can get to sneakers. Yeah. They got everything.

You know, two chains. Two chains. Let me tell you something. The guard in my head is an ill title. The voice in my head is guard, man. You've been doing some arms. You know it's a real auction, though. I got to throw.

Man, that's him tight. Yeah. Oh, he's new voice. Man, this ain't the wrong title. Man, your ass burnt, man. Hey, man. Hey, you're a burnt type, bro. Hey, Joe.

Hey, I ain't going to lie. This, like, this is Ben and Hunter show. I'm, like, seeing you through the screen different. Like, this, man, you burnt out for real. Boy, like, when I see it, like, man. I'm like, yeah, I'm thinking. I ain't know. Oh, you thought I was playing.

No, right. This close to you. No, something wrong. I'm looking at you, bro. You tripping something. Your chair. I ain't know. What are you doing?

My head is God. The voice in my head is God. If you can read, it's a great read. If you get audio, my audio five. My audio is going to get a, a, uh, a, uh, a, a Grammy. Oh, they do Grammy. for the audio?

Oh, God, I'm gonna get it, bro. They do Grammys for the audio. You do. Look, who got the last one, dog? Who got the last one? Look, I see he Googling that shit. Dalai Lama won the last. The Dalai Lama.

That's you. Don't worry about it. Yeah, you got that. The Dalai Lama won it last. Real? Man, let me tell you something. The name of this book is... The voice in my head is God.

Thank God. I ain't get a flag don't on me. Yo, listen, thank you, thank Mama for coming through. You know, that's the biggest, you know what I'm saying? Thank Nadine, thank the deputy. Then we had a whole list of them. This shit was crazy. So, yeah, I get the book.

Get the book. You know, I'm a big two-chains fan regardless, you know what I'm saying? So all your albums, I get them. You know what I mean? I like the two-chings album on a fucking airplane where I ain't got no distraction. I'm going to L.A. I play that shit.

And then, you know, Natina's your number one fan. She was talking big shit. Like, y'all, two things are drop. You got to get this. I'm like, you're on the Tina. I'm going to, no, you got to feel like that. Yeah, she's all right, Natina for sure. So she, and then what was this shit today?

We were singing up. There comes a time. Where you need that. Hey. Yo, this ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for two chains and I'm guest today. Help, help. Hey, guys, it's us.

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