The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - 42 Dugg on NEW PROJECT 'Part 3,' Eminem & Detroit rap, Bad Bunny's bank account

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by 42 Dugg. Joe and Jada ask the "We Paid" rapper about his upcoming project 'Part 3,' Eminem's love for Detroit, Detroit's love for Young Jeezy, and how he became renowned in New York City for his expert gambling. They also discuss whether R. Kelly could still sell records if he got released from prison, Latin artists like Bad Bunny and J Balvin making bags American artists can only dream of, the rap world taking DeJ Loaf's style and running with it, Cade Cunningham's Pistons sitting atop the NBA's Eastern Conference, and Joe's story of putting DJ Khaled on. 5:00 - 42 Dugg is a LEGENDARY gambler 12:45 - Joe & Jada still hit the studio religiously 17:30 - Bad Bunny & Latino artists' money is DIFFERENT 26:00 - Detroit's love for Young Jeezy, Eminem's love for Detroit 38:30 - Deep dive into R. Kelly's incarceration 47:30 - Upcoming album 'Part 3' 52:00 - Joe discovered DJ Khaled 1:03:00 - Joe & Jada's advice: PAY YOUR TAXES! 1:07:00 - 42 Dugg debuts "Thick One" feat. Skilla Baby [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yo, what up, y'all? This is Joe Crack. You know what it is, your boy, Jada. It's the Joe and Jada show, man. Every show legendary. Right. Every show iconic. Right.

Every show we throw that shit on. That's right. You know what it is? You know what I mean? When you think of today's guests, you think of unique. I mean, you think of a big heart. Think of a family man, good father. Somebody that's standing 10 toes down.

All situations. Think of east side of Detroit. What up, though? What are you? My gentleman, make some noise for my brother, Fultu. Doug. What I? What's up, baby?

Welcome to the couch. Welcome to the house. Welcome to the family. What's going on with you? Man, taking it easy, man. Getting ready to drop this tape, man, you know? January 23rd. Yeah, yeah.

It's part three. What can we expect, man? You know you dropped the missiles, man. Bangers. Now, if these bangers on there, I got some real street hoods. I have to take some shit off. You know, shit be getting crazy. You hit me to get on.

the joint then you ain't hit me back man I got a sent it to you I got to put you on the album though I got to put you on the aisle right now it's just you know chilling I got to get one of them bad motherfuckers from you no doubt you know how we've done

you know independent you want to fly and saucer nigga you come this way I did salsa number one on the charts I be trying to tell because you too young right but you

I got to say at all young hip hop he happens to be the most respectful the most solid one at all of them right in my opinion so that's so that's why I fuck with you and I invited you on the show because I said

yo even though he's a young dude he got something to say he's a real dude I love him so we're going to put you on there but I was just explaining to the young guy that works here I was like yo you know I was the hot this dude on earth. Like, I really put out number,

because they're young. They wasn't here for that, kids. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, you know, I was putting out number one, number one, number one, number one, number one, number one, number one, number one, number one, number one,

number one, number one, number one, against Britney Spears and shit like that. Yeah. The big boy shit. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, you want to fly saucy, man. Let me know. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Because it's levels to the shit. But 42, let me tell you something. You are a legend on the streets I appreciate you. And the whole New York they talk about your gambling game. Yeah.

You street. Yo, you white. He being in a gambling spots air and shit. They know him everywhere. My son. I don't gamble. Dad, Forto was a bagel. He was this and that.

You dried up the whole New York. I don't gamble, but you know my ear to the street. Yeah. They say, yo, your little man, 42. who wiping out the whole new year. He wiped them out. Like, I'm talking about Washington, everywhere. They was telling me, they was like,

yo, I never forget. They was like, yo, your man, your little man. I said, yo, but he's in there? They were like, yo, he's killing these deaths in the dice game. Like, destroying them. Taking every dollar. We used to live down here like two months. Swelling out. We used to catch the jet

to the dice game. Straight to the dice game. They used to like, come down. We were like, all right. All right, we're on runway. We pull up for $500,000. I used to go to $100. I'm not lying.

That's what the street's been saying. And you know what's crazy is, it's crazy. You're from Detroit and you flow through the city. Yeah. Like you're from the city. Yeah, no, for sure. No limitations. No.

Well-connected. He's solid and he's well-connected. And that's all you got to be. You know what I mean? I mean, you know, you don't really put out no bad energy. You don't really get no better. That's a fact. You know what?

You know what I'm saying? Like for a minute, like since I've been out of jail, I really ain't been having no problems. You know what I'm saying? So even with the security, like, you know, you really don't need them. I'm like, shit. No, I tell my security, shout out to Carlos. I haven't been seen in no country for old men. You told him chill.

You're a motherfucker kill the whole block. I tell them all the time. I'm not bullshit, man. Come at me. I'm going to let these guys shoot you in the front. face, I have no problem with it. Yeah. No, do me a favor.

Shoot them in the face. I don't get my fuck. I think they know, too. So I told them, yo, y'all got the easiest job. They said, what you mean? I said, nobody really fuck with me. I tell them nicely. My motherfucking get loud with me in any way, anything this.

I said, you see these guys. Shoot them in the face. They're going to shoot you in your face. I told the box of that shit. Now I'm with my wife. I'm with my daughter. You know the boxes. I'm at the egg of balanga.

The boxer come up to me, yo, so what you're mad is. I say, I, say, he starts talking crazy. I said, yo, shoot you in your face. Yeah. Straight.

Love. Because, yo, he had the hop. He was like, did he buy? You ain't going to see it coming. The man arguing with me with the shit. Like,

he's ready to give me a, like, I felt the shit. My daughter here and my wife, I said, hold a minute. I shoot you in your face. Do you think you talk?

That means that. Because not every day somebody tell you that. Look at me, what? Huh? Like, you all know you heard me. You ain't punching fat Joe. You ain't beating Fat Joe up on no level, my man.

That Luke Charlie where they shit, you got that little camera dude trying to catch you swing on me? That'd be the worst. Yeah. Too old. Shout out to security. For the show. Let me tell you something.

I tell all the young rappers, I tell everybody you might as well have a legitimate. security. I'm not talking about your man's in them. Because your man shoot up the place. You need that behind us. Listen, your man, keep that to yourself. Your man shoot up the place. Now you're on the news, 42 dog.

Yeah, yeah. I got arrested one time. I went my wife and her friends in a section. These dudes beat the pope out of a dude, right? They beat the shit out of this dude, right? But I'm in the section with seven women and me having a time on my life dancing this shit, right? Come on, everybody, what did you do that?

Yeah. It didn't turn around. They over there dancing on him. Legend, right? Next thing I know, about a month later, somebody come up to me and like, yo, like, remember that kid that got beat up a bit? What kid?

Yo, he got beat up. I was like, yeah, I was on the other side. He said, nah, that's not what he said. He says, you beat him up. Dang. A $50K in the back to get this. I said, you tell that guy. excuse my language, ladies, suck my dick.

I ain't given that nick shit. Next day, six in the morning, detectives knock on my door in Jersey. Mr. Cartagena, I go down to the precinct. They put me in the lineup. Five skinny black dudes and me. Yeah. Yeah.

That's him. Five skinny black dudes, dark-skinned black dudes and me. And I'm really fat Joe. Three fat Joe's. Three fat Joe's. I'm about 400, right? The guy slides the shit open, and you hear him. Oh, my God, it's him.

And to think I was a fan, and they closed the shit. I said, this motherfucker, these guys here on the line of this, they said, sorry, Joe. I said, look at this shit. You think they wasn't picking fat Joe out, this motherfucker? Are you fucking, what's love is number one, right? At the time, what's love? This is before lean back all that.

They locked me up. This is when I learned that the police want to get famous, too. They want to get clout. These guys came and picked me up in sweatsuits in my house. When we walked out the precinct with the news and all that was, these niggas had the hair done, tuxedos and shit showing. I was like, yo, these niggas want the cloud.

I was about to go to jail. So my lawyer at the time was telling me, yo, they want to give you a little one or three. You know, I also... What? You like, I didn't even touch this. No, I also know who danced on them. So I'm just like, you know...

Oh. So I'm minding my business. and then we hired a private investigator. Shout out to Dawn Floreo, attorney at law, that we hired a private, and we didn't know this is before now. Now it's cameras everywhere. At that time, Bebe King had the cameras.

So when they went there, the owner was like, I was waiting for y'all to come here. Like, we got the film. Fat Joe ain't had shit to do with this. The DA says, can I meet you, Mr. Carter? They dropped in the case. I didn't do nothing. I look in there, they got a bunch of Puerto Rican dudes

beating this kid up and she was like, you can see why we thought it's you. I said, lady, there's like 7 million Puerto Ricans in New York City. What the fuck? Because some Puerto Rican dudes beating the dude up is me. Oh, this, this, that. That's how we beat the fucking case.

But I mean, these people out here, they'll get you locked up. They'll send you up. How he gets to pick you out the line up and ain't no repercussions. That's the problem with lawsuits. That's the problem with people pressing charges, this, this, that.

They can accuse you all wild shit. And they don't get in trouble. What have you lost some money? Everybody loses money. Look, when you are artists, you're promoting products, you're promoting all type of shit, you're a spokesman. I've just seen Jason Derrillo say some shit like this. When they put you on the hot block,

you lose all your endorsements for all that shit. For somebody's, you know, trying to get a little 50,000 or whatever the case may be. So, you know, that's the sad part about the whole game when you were artists and they can throw dirt on your name. name you got to clean it up. It's fucked up. It's fucked up.

That 42, Doug. Yeah, what you're going to do? You're going to go on tour with this project when you dropped it? Yeah, I was talking to a few people. I was probably going to go my own stuff, but I was talking to, uh, my man is he fin to go to. I want to spoil it. So I fuck around going on him at February. No doubt.

We need all money. All money. All money in. All money. All money in. All. money in. Hell, yeah.

You know, these legs, man, my shit fucked up. You fucked your leg. Because I've been getting the monies my whole life. Yeah. You seen Fat Joe Jay to can start a podcast.

You should have knew some shit was coming this way. Netflix. Shout out the Netflix. We're on Netflix, yeah. Both are. What should have knew? You know, what could I say?

You see me sniffing around. You know the paper's shit. Everybody who really doing it, There ain't no song. Yeah, you can't stop. So the point is. You see them pod?

He's like, yeah, they should doing good. He's it up. Y'all feel like this is what we had. We ain't rapping on how. We just, you got to rap. I go to the studio right after this. I don't, I go to this studio every day. You got your own studio.

Yeah. I don't fucking play around with this shit. At this point. It's my life. No, for sure. We rap because we love it, even though we always loved it. But at this point,

Like me personally, you know, I do my catalog, I get money off my hits. But the new raps, I do that for him to hear and everybody, you're here and everybody here. Y'all be having, like, competition and shit. Me and my men, we always, like, go back and forth. I'm like, who the best rapper? And I'd be like, you can't fuck with me.

And that's how he feared of. So he just, like, he'd be, like, in the studio, he'd be like, do you want to pull us something up, right? You know what I'm saying? But that's how I feel like we get our best music off. Yeah, arcs wars, huh? Who the best out of Lox life? Y'all ain't had that going on.

We all feel like we did. Have you ever had that? Like, you ever had, like, a discussion of who's the nicest in the locks? No. It's an unspoken. You know, we, y'all know what it is. We formed Voltra. Nah, I don't know what it is.

But it still, we, we chop five, but Stout Spia is dead nice. And sheik Lutz burned them on every collaboration. So I don't know who the best. Yeah, yeah. Now listen to this thing right here. I'm telling you, I'm a hip-hop historian. I know what the fuck I'm talking about. I'm a fan of the music.

Yeah. For one, the people, it's like giving yourself a nickname. The people determine the people. The people determine who the one of you. You want to be the best on every song you want. I don't care if my mother's on there. trying to, I want to have a better version of Mama. And I don't got whack bags.

You ever got a whack bag? Like, you ever got a bag to get on a wax on? You knew it was trash, but you still spit your hardest. Yeah, I got out. Yeah. Horrible shit I don't been on where they got the bag. I'm like, shit, hard as hell of right to this bitch. But I'm trying to wrap my ass off on there.

Like, I don't get to fuck. My friends. I got paid to do four bars before. Four bars? Yeah, like 30. five thousand. For four bars? Yeah.

I would have been in this. Nobody. Hibbit, hibbit. Hop to the hibbit. Hop to hibbit. As I knew, I'm like, boy, ain't no man like this money, boy.

For a bird, I can believe it. The most I ever got paid is from Ricky Martin. Yeah. Because initially, I didn't want to do it. Yeah. And so he was living la vida loca,

and we destroyed. We come in like, Like you, like me and Pond at the time, we get in the middle of it. Like, we're killing people to death on the songs, right? We both Puerto Rican, he wanted us bad. So the number kept going up, and we kept saying, nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that.

Now fuck that. He had a number with Pum was like, yo, wait a minute, Joe. 7.50. Probably so. Yeah. Oh bullshit. Like that. Right?

It was big money. Even, you know, we can't say his name, but somebody used to be down with us, caught a free Ferrari from this, nigga. We went to Ricky Barnes' house. He lived in Miami. I've been passing this house forever. I'm like, yo, you don't go to the supermarket?

You don't go to the club? He was like, nah, I don't leave my house. But he's shit crazy on the water. He got a fucking Ferrari there. He never drive. Somebody used to be down. He was like, I don't try that. You know what?

Keep it. That boy, Ricky Martin, got. Brad, bro. Shout out the Ricky Morn. I'll fuck me. I'll be watching the Spanish artist. It'd be seeming like they got way more money than the niggas. Like, dude.

They got a divvy back. Yeah, what's the hell five? Jay Balder on, like, five private planes, like G5s, four. Five of them? Five. They be having silly-ass bankrolls on their, like, annual, and I'll be watching their pay. What? That niggas.

They had crazy on that they hit. There's more Spanish people in this world. So we made streaming. So let me tell you what happens. Right? What you want me to do? Let me hear it. You asking me, I'm the Spanish guy on here, right?

Yeah. Fuck, you got a problem with me speaking on that. A life one, man. Get the fuck out of you. Yo, listen. I'm going to tell you, the streaming game. You too young, Doug.

The way it used to. work. Yeah. As you put out an album, the motherfucker got a way to

in the snowstorm at a store to buy a CD or a tape. Now, they either download your

shit or the more they stream it, it counts as a sale. These Spanish people, they stream that death.

Yeah. So if they work at a fucking beauty salon, they work at a thing, when they get a record

that they like, Ricky Mark. You got 40, 50 Latino countries is Panama, Chile, this shit,

we never even seen that Argentina, this, Spain, this, this, all of them shit. They streaming the deaf. Now, when you stream it, you ain't even have to buy. Ten streams, album sell. Ten streams, albums, so them dudes are like, it's scary to know what they're making. So who bigger, Jay Balvin or Bad Bunny? He can't fuck a Bad Bunny.

Nobody could fuck with Bad Bunny. Nobody could fuck with Bad Bunny. I mean, like, nobody. Black, white, Spanish, Asian. When I was in jail and shit, somebody telling me, they were breaking them down. They say bad buddy, rap all gangster shit. Yeah, I wouldn't say gangster shit, but I would say, yeah, he ain't no rated PG. He's talking more about the girls.

But he rap gangster shit. He rap all that shit. He's dead nice if you didn't know. Like, he's talking that shit and that Spanish shit. You listen to him with him, but they got some niggas, man. Or some boys, the Chimmy in them, the Obelaheata. And Chimi. They're in jail now for like, for crazy years, right?

They mean what they say. Yeah. Doubletta and Chimi? Who do y'all up on the one dude with the, I want to say, got green hair? They all got green hair. I think he'd be wearing a mask. That's true. Just posting him or something?

Listen to me. He locked up. I thought he got out. They're talking lock shit on steroids. These guys are like... I was on his page. They treat his head like he. Oh, no.

Jesus. You know, not listen. Not listen. They're talking that gangster shit on the mother fuck. They're in jail forever right now. Him and his partner. They meant that shit. They disappear in your face.

They're talking all this. Them niggins is going crazy on them shit. I've never seen nobody rap like them in Spanish. I'm going to keep in a butt with you. I'm like, he, I'm not, who is he? But he got out of jail. It was like 4,000 people out there. I'm like, oh, this motherfucker.

Well, they know how. Cartier. Well, let me tell you so. Unfortunately for hip-hop, reggae tones, Spanish trap, I could tell you the answer if Tupac Shakur came back alive right now. Tupac Shakur was in Cuba,

and the man came back and said, I'm alive. First day, Nick, this him. First day. Yeah. They'll get on Instagram, they'll make a disc record. First day.

I beg the difference. No, no. First day somebody. What a fuck. he was over there. Man, we in the business of clout and all this shit and niggas want to come up.

You think everybody's gonna be like, well, we will. Tupac Chol, yo, this, this, that. There's somebody looking to score. There's a guy named Dempo, who's my man. Dempo was one of the original reggae-tone gangster.

Got caught allegedly 2,000 kilos. This guy had a thousand years in jail. Am I correct? Never told. Did the 10-15 years. they had a picture of Jesus Christ on the wall and a picture of fucking Temple in every house in Puerto Rico.

They had Jesus Christ Temple. Every rapper we just talked about, Bad Bunny, this one, this one, they all had tributes. Oh, Temple come home, Free Temple. Temple came home. He beat it on an appeal. Biggest miracle, before he stepped on Puerto Rico saw,

fuck Temple, your mother, you bitch, I was dead when he landed. Because my man, to go to him, I couldn't believe the disc records was, like, that's what he is. We living in a hate nation. But yeah, they're getting big money. You getting big money.

You're sitting up here with big ass diamonds and shit, dip fresh and cleaning after. I ain't doing Spanish money, man. I'm like, learn something, man. Now, you got to click up with one of them dudes, the main dudes. Like, I knew what I was. real solid dude.

You know what I'm saying? From my experience, I did a joint with him. What's the other one name? I got him. Elfanzo. Alpha. He's Dominican.

He's a good dude. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he'll be tripping up. It's going to be hard for you to rap with him because he do the shit that that's boat. His shit, moving. Yeah. Mottigat, got.

Body got. You care. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to have to give him the four bars and rewind. Yeah. Give him the four bars. Takadat, that shit.

He's a fun time. He a good dude. You know, he live in Miami, so I bump into him all the time. He's a beautiful guy. Dominican's some of the best. My golf, I was Dominican. Some of the best people on earth. You know what I'm saying?

They have a fun time. They're great people. Dominican, Dominican, Dominican. Dominican. You know, you know what time it is with the Dominican. You catch fire in Spanish. You're there in a self-life. Seventy-family.

Catch that Spanish. There's some black billionaires in this shit. You just got to know how to leverage your position and be ready. When Detroit turned around and they say they're about to do the housing 1,000 cribs and fast. Yeah. How is it in Detroit? How is it in Detroit? Is it getting better?

Like when I grew up, Detroit was like it looked like a war zone or some shit. I feel like they're trying to downtown cool. There is that supposed to be cool. The hood is gonna be the hood with girls. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but the hood could elevate too. You know, like you go in the Bronx. The Bronx looked like a war zone.

Like every building was burnt down this now and look nice. It's still the hood. They busts and they gun. I mean, I feel like you got some blocks where it's just no houses on that beach. One house. And you got some blocks with, you know, it's just there. I got a funny story about Detroit. They hired me the pistons.

got me to do half time, right? So we get in the car service, right? Black dude picks me up. So I'm in the car. I tell a nigga, yo, I'm starving. I'm like, yo, see a McDonald's fall over. He passed a McDonald's. Yo, you see a McDonald's fall over.

He passed the second McDonald's. I said, you're my man. How many times I got it to say, he turned around? He said, you want to go to them fucking murder, brother? They killed three niggas there yesterday. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to take you to the nice one.

That was his real response. Like, yo, they just killed three guys there yesterday. Fuck wrong with you. I'm taking you to the suburbs where you're safe. That Detroit shit different. And the what up, though. Let me ask you a question. I'm going to sound stupid as shit.

But get your flag ready. Now I ain't going to say it. Now I ain't going to say it. The what up though, right? I always thought young Gizi made that up. Right, right. No, no. I always thought they got a serious love for young GZ.

They think he's from there. In Detroit. Right? That was the BMF GZ era. They feel like he came up from Detroit, correct? No, for sure. He liked a Detroit rapper. That's the best rapper ever.

I think it. I think it's. No, no, I'm a huge young Gizi fan. Yeah, no, for sure. Like, you, you know what I'm saying? How Eminem move out there? You ever seen them in Yumen? Yeah, I seen it.

I've seen it. I've seen it. Passing, though. Passing, like what? Like in the streets? You know what? No, hell no. Like, we'd be somewhere, we'd be at for a field or some football game. And them over there.

Or like in the football, they show them on the screen. You're like in them over there. You ain't seeing them in there. No, hell no. I mean, this guy is so dedicated to Detroit. Yeah. He won't move. No, for sure.

I moved out the Bronx long time ago. I heard birds chirping little white boys playing hockey in the street. I'm good. That boy, he's still over there in that Detroit. That's fucking crazy. Oh, they love him. Yeah, I feel like him or not. He lived in a deal or he living in some part of Michigan?

Some part of Michigan. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't take away. No, why we can't take away the fact that the man... He represents it. Like, you represent the Bronx. You don't live in.

I live in Jersey. But the point out... Yeah, he live in Jersey. Yeah, yeah. Same shit. The equivalent of Jersey. Yeah, he lived like that. That nigga could be in Portiavei, Yarder.

He could be in the south of France. He could be in fucking wherever he want to be. Eminem? could be wherever he want to be. And he out there by the big tire in the highway. That takes dedication. No, for sure. You ever been out there in Detroit in the fucking winter?

I got family in Detroit. Family in Detroit, y'all. I came out to strip club one night in a fucking fur looking like a grizzly. Yeah. And I walked out, I said, ah, this shit was like that cold in Detroit. Like, yeah, shit. What you think about New York?

You don't think this motherfucker. I like that. I think this worse than us. Hell no. Coldest place I ever been in my life is Detroit. Second coldest, Toronto. It's cold. I'm in that motherfucker one day.

The shit, the heat just wouldn't come on. I'm in the fuck the W-4-season some shit. Best Hotel. I call it downstairs. They bring the portable heater. That ain't doing nothing. I call again. They bring another portable heater.

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We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey, Jones? guys.

I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say,

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We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.

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could be from Detroit, it could be from wherever, but I would like some Detroit rappers. You know what I'm saying? On your list. Peasy. No doubt. That's my guy. Yeah, that probably was to me. second of G.C.

Like, to me, you know what I'm saying? Because he was rapping. Shit, we was going through. Like, we'd be hanging yesterday. Next week, we hear Peezy. Like, we was just in an, uh, uh, uh, uh. So, you know what I'm saying? That's really how I learned how to rap.

Super relatable. Yeah, like, that's probably where I took my direction to rap. This place right here, this set is the only place you can wear fur coat. It's still be cold. This shit out of control. Your niggas, man. Y'all different. There's like jail in this.

this pitch. I feel it. Peasy, though. Yeah, it usually don't reach. This shit worse than outside right now. So Peasy? I don't know if y'all heard of him. Blade Icewood.

Blade Icewood, definitely. Yeah, Blade Icewood. I don't know Blade Icewood. I got to get him. He down there was. He should have. He got killed him. Yeah, he got killed.

He probably was going to make it. Like, he was rapping mainstream back then. You know what I'm saying? On Detroit town. Then, let me see you will probably Ray. Oh, I'm. I fucked with everybody. You know, they jacked the girl, man.

The girl from out there. What was her name? Dage. Dage Loaf? They stole a whole style, by the way. The whole America stole her shit. Dage, for sure. She started to flow, her style,

and the fucking world guys, guys, girls. Everybody ran with her shit. I'm gonna be honest with you. No, for sure. I feel like she was making song her. Like, you ever had somebody, when they get on that bitch and make the song, She had a silly-ass voice.

He's a king of that. Yeah, hell, yeah. For sure. They definitely took her styling. Oh, my God. The biggest in the game, I used to hear it be like, yo, is this stage loaf? Yeah. Like, because they all ran with her shit.

That's almost like fucking bone thugs created they don't stop. We can start a debate, whatever you want. No, we like bone thugs. No, no. But bone thugs, next thing you know, I hear Mariah Carey, Sitting about, and then they're running with their shit. So you forgot it was they shit.

Like they ran with bone thugs shit. It became normal. Every R&B record had the flow. Like they could have sued everybody for floats. Like a lot of cadence to it. I don't know what to tell you. I'm listening to the shit. I said, yo, they jacking the fuck out of bone thugs right now.

Who was first? Twister or bone thugs right now? That's the problem. Twist it. We don't know. Nah, I don't know. That's the thing. Before Bone, Doug.

This thing came up before both. Aaron Hall was before R. Kelly. Who that? Who's that? Yeah. You ever heard? Champ. Or Jam.

Teddy, jam for me. Y'all, listen. Aaron Hall. Yeah. Was the king? I mean. King God, it was the most pop of shit

Kelly came out You all I think Arckey was greatest of all the time He definitely there One of them Really one of them He'll come out here They let him get a furlough

He'll come out here shit on anybody in the verses Now listen to this If they let him get a furlough's face On all of them Look look at the feds don't give out furloughs This is the question on here right we'd be having this debate. If Art Kelly get out tomorrow,

do you think he would sell out of concert? Hell yeah. One second. Yeah. But what about the shit he just said about Nemo or Eam. They ain't going to do that to Al Kelly? Do what? The district.

Do you see how that? The shit, you... They didn't do it to Arkelly. We're talking about rappers. Where I said they would do that to Tupac. They ain't doing that to Al Kelly. All Kelly, like he said, when you cool, it is what it is,

That's hornby. All right. I'm just asking. I think he'd sell out as soon as he get out. If they said, All Kelly getting out to mall and he announced the concert when he got out. I'm saying, no. That shit sold out. Arkelly ain't sold his catalog.

I don't think he owned it. So what happens is our Kelly. Our Kelly wasn't so smart business-wise. Yeah. So Kelly was a genius, not even with the pen. He couldn't write. Go. This Lex, he writes.

So he write on the recorder. I've done songs. Yeah, he do the melody, then he put the words to it. He sits there with the mic. He smashes with him. He sit there with the fucking recorder. Do the melody, put the words to it. I've done hits with R. Kelly, so I know.

I do the melody that he humming. He can't write. He just make noise. Like, what do you want me to say? Then he put the words with it. Man can't write. Yeah. But he's a genius.

So he go on the recorder He hum the melody Then he hum the melody Then he put the words Like best of both worlds That motherfucker was all right That best of both words That's probably my second favorite

album of all time It's Illmatic Knoss Yeah And it's best of Old worlds Hello Yeah Yeah

Right No for real of those I was like This thing right here It's sweet right here I was young This was like I go

Best of Four worlds Hell that motherfucker Did they tour for that? Let me see you a little body body body They did one out of that motherfucker She was crazy

Crazy She used to be crazy At this party She's coming home with me Somebody girl is at this You bro Sitting in a VIP I really

You know, yo. He doesn't own any of his stuff either. They're very little, apparently. He's got... Sold it early? It's all tied up with the labels and then other stuff is tied up because of court shit and whatnot, too. I don't even think that. You know, I know the real, if you want the real.

You don't want the fake? It was still real, dog. Everybody ain't willing to say this. That's why you never heard it before. You know what I think? What? I think he got in trouble. It's like, this your name, this is all name.

You got there, you got the. No. So they can't take it. What? What happened was they caught him and they stepped to him and said, I'm going to put you in jail because you did this. Not speculation, not nothing. You did this to her.

How about you sign over your catalog and your publishing to us and we won't put you in jail? And he signed it. Before the court case. And, you know, when he came time, he couldn't even pay for his lawyer. Also, be clear. that if he would have went to jail for other crimes, I'm sure everybody would have chipped in and got him the best lawyer in the world.

But once you play with that crime, you cannot continue. What are he in jail for? Sexual suicide. Pedophiles, shit like that. H's his own. I can't really tell you. I'm saying, is he in a federal penitent?

No, no, he's done. We never seen all. He's in the fence. No, I think he's going to get out. No, he can never, ever seen Arkell. Because he just might hide from him. He's getting out. I think Trump gonna get him out.

Hell no. Not Trump, though. Let me explain son to you. Trout Joe. He can't, he got nothing to awful. Man, when Trump, I'm the last shit. He's gonna see him get so many of my fucking about. Listen to me.

I'm the last. True. All-Kelly fan. I watch that trial. No. I'm a fan. The fuck is you talking about crack. I watch every day of this trial.

Yeah. I pray to. every day for all Kelly, that he beat it because he was my friend. Yeah. And I was hoping he wasn't guilty of this. And I prayed and prayed and prayed and hoped he was innocent. I'm telling you, I don't know if everybody else went to that trial. No, no, to that length.

What about nothing? Of death. I can't. What are you at with him that? I just can't do it. I just can't do it. And you know what I want to ask. D.

He didn't went to jail for murder. I'd have paid for every lawyer in the world. he did currently. Huh? That's what I don't know. Did he go to jail for shit he did back then? Like in the 90? I thought he was the, look, look, look.

Hold on. Hold on. Let me say something because you was guilty. But listen. You got to say, you guys. You got to say guilty. Look, he was. I don't got to say he guilty.

What you wanted to say? He did some ill-matic shit because he did some bullshit and they've stashed it for mad years. He did some shit to little girls. And they did trout in that happened. She was a grown lady. Yeah. So they threw that one out. But then they came with some other shit.

The point is... You started for... Yeah. The point is, if you allegedly kill two people... Yeah. And get away with their O.J. Simpson, you move to South Africa. Yeah. Or you move to the...

Not Vegas. You do not ditty-bop around the white people at Morton's steakhouse thinking you're... You slip on a banana pill, my niv. You get in 10,000 years. Yeah. It is what you... it is. So the guy was hot and I guess he kept playing

with fire and then it was like hello. And he has life guys. Dang. They have an extra case waiting for him in Chicago that has nothing to do with this. That they said

they're by chance. He got enough. If he ever attempts to come out, we got this one on him. He's done. God bless you gotta get the fuck You don't want to listen I don't I can't understand

Who you know There's a guy I'm telling you what I'm telling you what I'm Layaway case I don't think he gets out Listen he's got a 30 year federal sentence from New York For racketeering and trafficking With an appeals court And it was held up in 25

He also has a 20 year federal sentence from Chicago Look he got New York and Chicago But with the 19 years concurrent One consecutive Okay. So 19 of that would be time served, right, in New York, and then he has to do a one, so it's a 31-year sentence technically. If you want to Google, Google the case they got sitting there for him

for whenever he thinks he's coming out. Samuel Norrie. Manuel Norriega used to own Panama. The United States got rid of him and put him in jail. The minute after 30 years, that nigger thought he was coming home, France hit him with a case. for 34 years. That's what they're going to do then.

You can pair Manwell Norie Aga. Arkellie is Man, Al-Cell-Norri-Yade. He's the biggest guy of our time besides fucking Michael Jackson, bro. God bless the man. That's all I can say, you know, and the victims and everything we're not,

you know, I wrote it out to the last. Trust me, I wrote it out to the last. People were telling me I'm crazy. I'm like, yo, I'm praying. I'm going this once you, what you, it's nothing I could do. You know, it is what it is. All right, let's move on.

Top of the year, man, new project. Ain't. Nice game. What's up with the Piston? They are in first place? The course is in the first place. The Pistons joint? Yeah, man.

I'm trying to get like you, babe. They show you, Corset, you got a new coat on, a new what? Yeah, play with these people. Yeah. I got getting the fan. Yeah. Hey, me and my homie, we'd be showing up.

Me and baby, we were just looking like a boy. He like, yeah, can't nobody fuck a big boy. He like, he like, damn, he freshes out here. I'm going Christmas Day. I invited him. Yeah, he got to, y'all got to go, man. My outfit premeditated. Yeah.

I'm telling you right now, I should just walk in there with yellow tape on me because this shit bad for the people. Yeah. Man, got to give me the hat. Your man, T-mark. He's been stalling. a half. For a month, I've been telling my outfit we meditate. She's standing

by myself there, just waiting to give them the business. You know, I had shit. You're not listening to me. The Bronx ain't much different than Detroit. I ain't have shit. They used to make fun of me. Kiss, you're not chopped liver yourself. You dip fresh all the time, too.

Why do you throw that shit on? You got to represent for D-Blatt. Hold up, but he got to, what's the answer? You don't have an answer to why I like feeling good. I didn't... Clothes make you feel good? You look good, you feel good, man.

I mean, that's just sometimes. Sometimes I wear the same shit for a month. Oh, I can't do that. Oh, man. Grandy. Yeah. Sometimes when I get back, I want to remind myself.

I did that in jail. I ain't doing that shit. Fuck that. Yeah. Same shit. You wear the same shit for a month from 42? No, hell not. But I buy the same shit for a week.

I'm like, we're a different Nike tech for a week straight. It kind of feel like. What's the thing with the Nike Tech that the kids always love it to me? I mean, it's like there. It's crookable. Yeah, it's chill. Yeah, yeah, it's chill. Like, you do anything.

People are in a Nike Tech in Black Air Force once. Yeah. Some reason they'll be like, I'm shooting someone today. Bring out the Black Nike Tech. Yeah. in the Air Force. One. That's the shooters.

That's the, that I kill you. That's the uniform. Motherfucker, come to you with that shit. That black shit, all just know that shit about the fly. Yeah. I'm telling you, where you see yourself in the future, 42. Man, hopefully selling the kettle of a billion. You hear me?

No doubt. Man, I'm trying to get there. You know, I really want to put, like, the next person behind me in this position. And then I just want to fall back. You know what I'm saying? Just give me a bankroll. You know, we're putting people on sometimes,

not all the times, but sometimes it becomes heartbreaking. Yeah. Right? Because you go and you say you started, right? The dream comes true, you rap. Did you know? We can't confirm that you knew when you grew up in Detroit and you woke up that you was going to be iced out sitting on the Joe and Jada.

You can't know that, right? So now you take whatever clout leverage you got. You put the next man on. You use your juice. You get the right people to produce. You put rappers on these shit. You show them everywhere. Yo, 42.

What's up? 42, yo, this rapper Jimity Cricket. This is rapist, such and such. You blow them up. You know, I read somewhere. I sing somewhere where you was like, I ain't sounding nobody else. Never.

You like somebody got out. I was like, fuck fast. You're like, I ain't sad and nobody else. That's on them. They can say whatever they want. I changed. Fat Joe has changed about 10 people's lives and made them millionaires. Yeah.

And I come from shit. I just told you I come from free cheese, welfare, fucked up. The Bronx. Yeah. And I took 10 guys and girls that didn't have nothing that said, all right, I'm going to help you. And they always, bro, you know I discovered DJ Callet. Do you know that? You never knew that?

I suspect it, that. I discovered. Like a rich. Callet. No, no. Fuck, you could do whatever you want. You can say whatever you want. You can say whatever you want.

I'm talking. All of it gay. You can say you okay. Motown. Who gives a fuck? Do you get money from discovering Kelly? Let me tell you what happened. So anyway, I discovered Cab.

Put him on his first seven albums is on Terra Squad. All I do is win everything. All his success is his. I just gave him the boost and the nigger ran and made number number ones and didn't stop. But let me tell you about there's an interview that Calla just did with Joe La Puma. I don't know what that is.

Bro. I watched that. He was crazy on that beat. 81 watches 650 or watch 8,800. 100 of watts, 450 or watch, 300 of watch, this, this 81 of them. Yeah. Then he go outside, the cause is a half a million, million and a half of me. This is a nigger I discovered.

Yeah. I'm sitting there looking at the screen. I'm like, this is amazing. Like, this is fucking out of control. I'm with them all the time every day. Yeah. One of my best friends on Earth. Yeah.

Well, Jesus Christ. You like it. He didn't even pull out the plane. Yeah. Yeah. Plain 70 million. He didn't pull out the plane. And I'm looking at it.

He throw the shit on every day, too. He got a $10,000 outfit on. He ain't no fun on Gaville. Yeah. I go to his house. Shout out chef Melissa. Their niggas bring out caviar for, but you went. You went?

They'll give you eggs with caviar and lobster. These niggas ain't playing in there. There is no, I don't know what to tell you. I pulled them maybe. I don't do it. no more. But maybe around COVID and all that, I pull him to the side.

I said, you sure, you got the bag like this? Like, you, like, I've never seen unconsciousness of blowing the bag. I've never seen it in my life. This is my guy. Buy another watch. I'm good.

You said, Joe, I'm good. He told me, Joe, his show. I made a million dollars. I ran over there so fast to tell him. And he was like, yo, what you want to tell me? We sit down in his backyard. I said, nah, he said, hold up. You know, I just did a cocaine commercial, $5 million in my bathroom, and leave my house.

What you was telling me? I was like, I felt like a crackhead. I couldn't even tell him I made a million dollars on shit. I turned around, shut the fuck up. But look at the blessings. Look at all the people he helps, all the people he employs. So all the people he helped get on, that came from here. This is the family tree. And we could go along the line. Scott Storch made $85 million one year. I just met Scott Stor's. Fat Joe. Yeah. Scott Storch was doing all that music.

Nobody fucked with him himself. You know, he did Steele, all of them. He did all that shit. I ain't know he did. I just thought that was a routine he did. Oh, yeah? No, he made those shoes. Oh, yeah?

That's what you thought. Anything you heard of a way. Maybe he made that cron of a river, all that. Yeah. I just through the whole shit. Like, listen to me. He did all that. Yeah, nobody gave you credit.

Yeah, as far as it went, there's a guy who did all the Tupac shit. We never, I don't know his name. There's a guy who produced all that, all ours on me, all that shit. Huh? Johnny J. my name, my name. Johnny J., we never heard him. I don't even know the girl's name on doing it and doing it well. Doing it.

That's his shit. Yeah. What's the girl's name? Tell me. You heard it how many times? There's a way for people not to get their props. There's a way for people not to get discovered. I did lean back with Scott Storch.

I said, Scott Storch. Next day, he had 100 rappers at his door after I mentioned his name. He already did. Still, Dre, this one, that one, this one, this one. The day I said, Scott Storch, he had a cheese line down the block, your favorite rapper on there. And he was like, yo, you got something, got something that was walking out of there like this. I did that.

Yeah. 85 million he made in that one year after that leaned back and he earned it you know what I'm saying he deserves it but I mean like you know that shit you know but that's one guy who made all that money

and used to tell you used to have a boat behind his house Scott Stewart's got the yacht a hundred foot yacht this that he told the captain I don't care what time this man walked in this house you take him wherever the fuck he wanted to go

and boy we used to abuse it 42 I was still young back. Yeah. We come after the club, nigga, it's 20. Five at the morning. Yo, Captain, nigga wake up with shit in his eyes.

We're like, yo, we're going out. Sunset. We want to see shit. Come up. He'd get in that boat. We're out there. You know, he was one guy.

He's a very generous guy. Scott Stocherch. He really was. But, you know, that's what you do it for. You know, my favorite line was Jay Z's line, and I never know nothing.

So I ain't going to get it right. He'll probably do it. Where he says, if we fall, we be each other's crushes. If we fall, we be each other's crutches. So the concept is, you can't be the only rich guy. You fall off. Your friends can help you.

Yeah. Big mistake we make. The more of your friends that win, we hope they come through and they help you when you need them. Yeah. Your team got to be winning. And whatever they do. So whenever you need help, they'll come and help you. What about when they can't get it right, though?

What you do is substitute these nays. What you did? Cut them. Like, when you're trying to help some motherfah but they can't get it right? They can't beat crutches. They don't get it right. They don't get it right.

They really want to work. They got a job. Yeah. Now, his niggas don't want to work. Yeah. You wake up, you call on me five in the afternoon. You all got two bitches over here. I'm this and now.

He don't want to work. I've had friends that never had a job in their life and was like, yo, take me the job. Jay-Z. I'm like, for what? If anybody really want to work in the crew, they got a job. But we can't carry dudes that don't want to work or want to fuck shit up or

fuck up the vibe. Fuck up, you can't do it. Never. I agree. Is the line you were speaking of, if your click is rich, you click is rugged, nobody will fall because everyone will beat each other's crutches. If you click is rich. Your click is rugged. Your click is rugged.

No one will fall. No one to fall, because will be each other's crutches. That's how it's supposed to work. Now, I can tell you, I went to jail for taxes. Nobody was my crush. Nobody came and said, yo, my nigger, here's a dollar. Nobody. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers.

And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.

We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name hey Jonas guys. I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.

We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman

help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel. Help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves. I got to manipulate the game.

We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nasree. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by,

like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball like, after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is, getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is, getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a popular. politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Ely Boulevard. Get to the grocery store. I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akila Hughes. In Rebel Spirit, season two goes deep on both of those things.

The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain Spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio

app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. At what point do you go to jail for taxes? Well, you gotta pay taxes. Yeah. So America says land that's free. It ain't free.

If you do not pay your taxes, sooner or later, they will come and say, let's go. They got somebody in jail right out for six months. I was saying, no. Somebody in jail right now for six months. Is it because you're hiring money? Huh?

Or you just ain't paid. Well, you ain't paid. So if you make a million dollars, I don't know what it is in Detroit here in New York. Half a million goes to them. Got up paid the taxes that will put you out of business. me personally, I paid my taxes. I had an accountant

and every month I was sending them wires like I was paying my taxes the nigga was robbing me. So when they came to me and said, yo, you ain't pay your taxes. We went to the wires

and was like, no, no, we sent this guy to wire every month. They said, you as the leader of your household are responsible for who you hire to pay your taxes. And they fucked me.

He stole my money. I wound up. paying the shit again before I even went to court, and they gave me time. Guess what? When I came out of jail four months later, you got eight months. That eight months, I worked my ass off to pay the money that I had just paid them. So say you owe them, I owe them $1.2 million without a penalty. They gave me a bigger penalty. One point four million penalty, right? So I paid them the $1.2. How about when I got out of jail, I had to work for eight months to pay them. them half of the 1.2, I gave them because they said, man, you had a good year.

You just paid us. This shit ain't to play with. The taxes, do me a favor. Take that serious because they'll come and then your whole life, they'll haunt you. Can't get a passport to leave the country. You can't get a license. Nah, they don't fuck you. They don't play.

Nah, they want their money. Or you can move. to Dubai where they ain't no taxes. They ain't no crime. The streets are nice, made out of marbles. There's no deportation. No, Dubai is deportation. No fucking weed.

That's little dirt in them. There's no weed. Damn, man. So you really bothered. If you had to go move somewhere... Yeah, but... So you went with no weed. What was that like?

It was cool. You okay. Let me ask you something. The second that plane... landing. You left the bags, right? You ran straight outside. That's my way.

Yeah. They brought it to the airport, but you ran past the bags. No, you did not stop for your bags. So you stopped for your bag? You ran right outside. That's lit it up. Facts.

That's me with a Diet Pepsi or Diet Coke. The doctor told me, stop the Diet Pepsi, stop the Diet Coke. I said, well, this is where we got a problem. Yeah. You told them no. I told them, you know, I'm going to change the fluid.

You see, the water. There's more water than Diet Coke, but it's like a drug for me. I got to have it. So now we, let's cue up the music. Look at the power of 42 Doug. The man hit me up and said, oh, gee, I'm ready to come and throw that shit on. He came and sat on that couch. You know how many niggas told me they come and can't come?

I don't know if you are just... You know what many guys told me? me, yo. Next week, I'm in New York. You know, I'm like, sir. I got all access like that phone, too. I got to figure out who put you on the couch because you just can't come on the couch.

Yeah. 42 said, I'm coming with that shit on. That's no problem. Come sitting on the couch, baby. No, for sure. Appreciate you, John. Baby. 42 different, man.

You know what I'm saying? He might be short, but he's a giant. Big heart. What's these songs right? Let's go to this song right here. Exclusive, but we lit what we got. Yeah, these two songs coming from my upcoming project, Part 3. I really left it up to the fans to determine, like,

with the part 3 is too, like, because I did part 2. 1-1-2-4-Haw-Wayburn, I did Young & Turn 2. So instead of naming the Young Intern 3, where 1-1-2-4-1-Weburned Part 3, I just named it Part 3. And I'm like, y'all tell me what was it more? part three of Young Intern or Wayburn, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like it's a mixture of both this song, me and Skiller.

Me and Stiller, he's from two different sides, you know what I'm saying? So at first, me and his side, I didn't really rock like that. Rock like that, you know what I'm saying? So I got out of the shit, I'm like, you know what? I ain't really got no problem with my homie, you know what I'm saying? Plus, if it's going to do better for Detroit, I'm all for it. You know what I said? So me and him kicked it.

And I'm like, shit, send me something. He pulled up to the studio. He played me this song. And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I need this one. I did some shit for him. And I'm like, let me take this one. He's more like, talk to shit for the girls and all this shit. I'm more like in the streets with it.

You know what I'm saying? So I, like, went over to his lane. And, you know, I feel like we made a bad motherfucker. This motherfucker's hard right here. What's the cool? Big one. Let's get it. Let's get it.

Cranky Crockin. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. So many bitches. So many bitches.

It's hard just to pick one. But if I got two, but if I got two, I want the bitch pick one. It's a gang of us. And here we're trying to spend some risk over 200. I got three of these. Once I pay you for the pussy, baby, you can leave. Fuck a.

HCC, she's from D.C. Used to suck their free till she met a nigga pan. I know I said, he running through the pee. Bitch, I'm running through the age. Come catch you a play. Make you a 10. How you're wearing lassies. Bitch, you're a kid.

Grown her leggings. My bitch's fresh stepping. Call on that. Bring that shit back. Make that shit back, boy. I want the dick one. I want the dick one, man. I want the dick one.

I want the dick one. This ain't here. Yeah. So many bitches. It's hard just to pick one. It's hard just to pick one. But if I got to, but if I got to, I was... This shit, great this ain't...

Get ducked dick to a rock. I want to make one, bitch, pick one. It's a gang of us in here we're trying to spend some risk over 200. I got three of these. Once I pay you for the pussy, baby, you can leave. Mala bitch CC, she from D.C. Used to suck dick for free till she met a nigga paying. I'm running through the pee.

Bitch, I'm running through the age. You don't catch you a play. If I got two, whatever... Thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I don't care if you dark skiing or you red. Long as you eat your cat bitch and cornbread.

You can hop on that table. It don't matter. Ooh, you've been in the gym. Girl, that ass fatter. Baby, get it over. Do your sheet. Make it ass wobble. You so thick.

Shake that ass. Move your hips. You're going to make a nigga come pay your rent. Maybe you pressure. You so impressive. You're so impressive. Sing it like jelly. You so damn sexy

You so damn sexy It's so many bitches It's hard just to pick one But if I got to I got to I want the thick big one I want to bitches

It's hard just to pick one But if I got two I want to I got two I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one

Crazy This is a hit I appreciate you know Thanks a nice Nice a nice January this week. You can't fool me, man. 23rd, man, this week, man.

This week. Make sure you get it. All platforms, part three. Shit a hit. You know what I mean? Part three. Joe and Jada for having us all here, man. Real street nays, we respect y'all.

We fuck a child a long way. Go. East side of Detroit, I like you. Nah, yeah. I want the dick one. Yeah. That dick one? Yeah.

It's that shit. That shit's going to rock. That shit is going to rock. No. Yo, but how thick is thick? I've seen this shit on Instagram. No. There we go.

Hold on. Oh, and y'all. I seen some shit on Instagram. Hello. Hey, no. I was that. That's what. You got to understand.

Hey, I'm saying. I've seen some shit. Two things. I don't know if you've seen it. It's a little dude on a fucking race. with this girl. She's like an Amazon, her shit. Like, what could he do with that?

Like, she's fucking, she's the thicker than dick one. Yeah. Thicker than dick one. Thick of dick one. That's the remix. That's the remix. But yo, this ain't that. That ain't this.

It's cracking kiss, God damn. Make some noise for my nigger folk to duck, yeah. Appreciate y'all. Appreciate y'all. I'm mean. Love. No, love. Hey guys, it's us

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