The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - 85 South’s Karlous Miller & Chico Bean on D.C. Young Fly, Fat Joe stories & Jadakiss bald BY CHOICE!

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

On today's episode, Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Karlous Miller and Chico Bean from The 85 South Show and they have a hilarious time discussing how they first met auditioning for Nick Cannon's W...ild 'N Out, drawing influence from comedy legends like Bernie Mac, Richard Pryor, and Martin Lawrence, their favorite Fat Joe stories, the revelation that Jadakiss was WILLFULLY bald for most of his rap career, and their standout episodes with Boosie and Dr. Anthony Fauci. Also, Karlous and Chico quiz Joe and Jada on their favorite New York City boroughs, their dream collaborations, and Joe tells an incredible story on how his hit record "We Thuggin'" featuring R. Kelly came to fruition. 6:00 - Jadakiss ISN'T bald?! 11:30 - 85 South becoming its own platform 21:00 - Why Fat Joe CAN'T smoke anymore 33:00 - Jada wants to collab w/ Andre 3000 and Stevie Wonder 39:00 - D.C. Young Fly & life's hard lessons 52:00 - Fat Joe's son is his blessing 1:00:30 - Difference in being famous now vs. then 1:04:15 - Joe & Jada becoming media 1:11:30 - Terror Squad vs. champion boxer 1:17:30 - Joe & Jada's favorite verses [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, it's us The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
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Starting point is 00:02:11 This is the same thing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. What up, y'all? This Joe Cracked at Dawn. It's your boy, Jada, kids. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. And you know, every one of our shows is special.
Starting point is 00:02:39 So when we say it's a special edition, We fucking really mean. Today we got our brothers on the show. Carlos Miller, Chico Bean, also known as the 85 Southport. All right. Man. Man.
Starting point is 00:02:54 What's up, brother? This is our honor, man. You don't understand, man. We fans of y'all just across the board, but we also fans of the show. We've been watching the show, and we love the chemistry. We love the dynamic, man.
Starting point is 00:03:07 We've been watching Joe tell all the stories. It's fucked up what you did, the monkey face Carlos, man. Oh, yeah, yeah. Now, he robbed me for $500, though. Oh, you had to get it. It was courage. It was a story of courage.
Starting point is 00:03:19 So, I love how your story is always involved. I love how your stories always involve way too many people. Like, wherever you are, you be like, yo, it was me in like 178 niggas. Like, Benjo, how are you taking this many people with you everywhere? Yeah, you got to New York City. Yeah, all the way. Then it'd be all different types of dynamics of people. Yeah, it was me.
Starting point is 00:03:46 It was 58 Dominican nickers, right? I got a sell a shit. I got a sell a shit. You don't want none of my ATL stories. I got ATL stories. Oh, we know you got ATL stories. I was there tonight, Pimsy. Well, you got to tell the PimC story.
Starting point is 00:04:02 No, no, Pim C. One day I think it was a boxing match in the ATL and he got into some shit, didn't it? Man, before he could get to the car. The police grabbed them. They opened that trunk. Man, they brought so many guns out that fucking trunk. She was running to the trunk.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Seeing it in my own eyes. He was running to go pop that shit in the cops rushing. When they opened that shit, they were pulling all type of shit out. I was like, Jesus, crap. Hey, man, I'm convinced. Fet Joe got a time machine somewhere, man. How do you think?
Starting point is 00:04:36 Let me tell you something. It's too, fat, Joe. I was everywhere. That's what it is. Is God be two, Joe. Listen, this is why I'm broke. I was spending too much money in the clubs worldwide. I don't believe you, Brooke.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I was in there every fucking day. I was never had worn the same outfit or shoes. You were not broke. I came to you. I'm definitely not broke. But what I'm saying is I've been everywhere. I'm like the far as comp of hip-hop. I've really been there.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Like everywhere, something really meaningful. See, that's why your leg looked like that. You don't ran too much, man. The fourth cup of hip hop. My wife said it was cap because I told the story and we got shot at. I fell over the shit in my leg. She said,
Starting point is 00:05:20 sister, I met you. Your leg been fucked up. What are you talking about? I said, nah. It was like I was 14, 13 when I first fucked my leg. I don't understand how people don't believe you.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I remember when the shit was going on with people was questioning your, you know, your history with hip hop and a video came up. You like 12 years old with the real. Puerto Rican head. Like you had the real Puerto Rican head. I had a back 11 on me too on that jacket. I'm saying. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:46 You was in the club there. I'm like, what is? I ain't. I ain't say nothing. I was super strapping. Well, you see that shit. I be trying to show them because they said, you know, I said some shit. Niggas got a little mad at me. Jada's a chill. You already increased the peace. Like, I made it happen. So last
Starting point is 00:06:04 night, for no reason, I had to look up young fat Joe with the Cuffian on. The gods. The God crack Kim. I had to throw that just tight, you know, going there, and then I flipped the page to the young fat Joe with the mechada. The shit, the biggest shit you ever seen.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Maybe he robbed the gym. Maybe he robbed the gym. Maybe he really robbed the gym. He looked like it. Right, and then this guy has been showing off, man. He got nice socks. The one thing about me is I could dress my ass off, but I got old school socks.
Starting point is 00:06:32 No, just regular socks. Yeah, yeah. I've just shied away from the, um, checkerboard boxes. Yeah. I got the real. Now, you can still win the d-dunt to the ass. No, no.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I got Calvin Kleiner, but my shit be $20,000 outfit, but I did used to have the lumberjacks. $30,000 draw. Isn't it? $30. $30.00 draw, take his draws off. They look like swimming drunk. Lumberjack with the hat to match.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Draws that. I got off that way. Not that anybody can see it, but I got off the lumberjack. That was hard to do. So I'm more modern, but Jadakeke, he liked to show off because he knows, I ain't got no new socks.
Starting point is 00:07:06 My shit holds. He got to. He gets Jadakins, though. He said a lot of flash shit. So when he's got a platter of real life. He got guns that the government ain't got, the salman, he's rubbing the spot. He's got $4.60 and the floor lift up.
Starting point is 00:07:18 He got, you. Oh, my God. Now, this is what I was going to ask, though. Oh, shit. Jay, because you was bald for the longest. You mean to tell me that you had a completely healthy headline and you could have just grew your shit back at any moment. Yeah, it was a play.
Starting point is 00:07:33 That shit is crazy, bro. That shit crazy. We are here bald with no options. And you just said, fuck it, I'm just going to grow my shit back. You got to wash your shit. No, I know you don't. You disrespectful. We thought you was bald.
Starting point is 00:07:49 You had a paper towel wrapped around your forehead for years. You came out. Warheads was in. Don't what I'm saying? Nah. You guys don't know about we had. We got to go to Turkey. I'm not going over there, man.
Starting point is 00:08:02 X had a boy. So everybody in. You look like you still want to wear hair. I do still wear hair. I don't look like it. What you meant for timeout? I'm wearing it. I'm not going to say that.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I'm not going to say that back. There you go. Fuck you talking about. All right. So what I'm saying is working. You only need a little bit. Go to Turkey, man. I already need.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I already need a little bit. Nah. No. Tori, Tiger. A lot of people did. He only need like a half it. He don't need whatever. They got it.
Starting point is 00:08:35 He's got that Sherman Helmsby. This shit is right. Right. Hells you. Right. Hells you got. How old. How old is?
Starting point is 00:08:42 How's the shit pushed back? I'm not going over there. There's a solution. There's not a solution. Not for me. Because I've seen what it looked like in the days leading up. I can't go through that process. When the front of your head look like it's the meat to the rag.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I see you guys get it. You got mean hats. All you got to do is get the. Yeah, I see. Guys get it. You need to do it. I ain't lying to you because you love your hair. You got to fix that shit up.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I didn't say I love it. I just love the fact that I could. do it like he did. Like me, I've been born forever. Man, I can't grow no hair now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:13 See what happened to me was, I used to have hair like the fucking Brady bunch, right? Yeah, we've seen it. And so when I was young, all the time,
Starting point is 00:09:21 you see it nice. I see it. I see it. I see it. You know. Fuck with the people at home, man. You keep fucking with it.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I see the picture. Let me tell you, I had hair like the Brady bunch but I shaved it all because all the tough guys had the baldies in my hood. My father chased me around the projects four times trying to beat me up
Starting point is 00:09:41 because he knew what that meant. You couldn't catch you? He couldn't catch me, but I was running, you know, the point is one day I made a bet with Big Pun. And I was like, he was like, yo man, you can't grow no assing. You fucking crazy my shit, like the Brady Bunch. If I want right now, I grow braids, whatever. So I try to grow this shit.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And it was like, rest and peace to the headline, everything. That shit was coming up. Like, Punt had some more jokes about that shit. I lost it, so I saved my shit. But now I got guys that they do the fake. They got like a tattoo shit. I can't do that. I can't do it either.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yeah, yeah. But you could do the turkey. I can't do the turkey. Because it's your real hair. Come back. No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:10:23 No, no. I'm not doing it. So that's your signature. My story is we came in. Looch had the hot top fade. SP had the blowout, chemical blowout. back then. Like the Jackson five?
Starting point is 00:10:40 Nah, when the dope boys had it, when they came back in, man. Like Mephyman. Oh, okay. Gotcha. So boom. When we got the deal, they still had it. I went ball first. Then I made a thing when y'all shit fall out. I'm going to come back. And I just kept my word and came back.
Starting point is 00:11:01 God bless you, brother. Because if I had here, my shit, they'll call me Alejandro out. My shit My shit would be Rolfo My shit to be
Starting point is 00:11:11 I don't want it Yeah No I don't Come back You got to Come back I do not
Starting point is 00:11:21 Want it Yes you do Because I see how you look On the front Them buses When my shit This shit Will be
Starting point is 00:11:26 Redolfo Now that's the look You make When you own that shit You know what I'm saying That was like Right My shit
Starting point is 00:11:34 I had this My shit shit to be like this with the curl with the fucking juice and all that shit on my shit. So legend. Disrespect. Shout out to Yulie and Jesse Terrero. He got the shit with the curl.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Like, Nick, they would think I ain't Fat Joe. I'd be fat Joe's twin or some shit with some. I would really be on some bullshit if I had here. I'm being honest. I feel you. I would too. Shout out to y'all. With me, Jow, you've been under a rock and haven't been following them.
Starting point is 00:12:02 They all started out doing their thing. And what made y'all find? want to go for ownership and incorporate and do your own shit? Was it the same thing that the music industry go to? Something similar? I think so, because you know how it is. It's like you can only do so much when you're under something. When you got your own platform and your own boss,
Starting point is 00:12:25 you can move how you want to move, you can work how you want to work, you can go where you want to go, and you can work with whoever you want to work with. It's the independence, it's the freedom. and I think it's at the speed that we create. Like, we're fans of each other. So our natural conversations really just progressed into a show.
Starting point is 00:12:44 It was like, me and this dude linked up at the wild and out auditions. We didn't know anybody else. It was like we were familiar to each other. Like, I know he's a comedian. He know I'm a comedian. They got a room full of personalities and people who they're championing or, like, pushing for. So it's like, we're standing there like Forrest Gump and Bubba. We just back to back.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Like, I don't know what they're going to do. Whatever they got going on is on them. But me and you, we got a whole different set of struggle there. Bro, we got to get on TV. They're going to be good if they don't get on it. So we went in there. We rocked it, bro. And then they brought our other brother, D.C.
Starting point is 00:13:25 A couple seasons later. And then it's like, I knew him and I knew D.C. So I was the plug in the middle. And it's like, when we got to get it. It was natural. I didn't have to tell them to be cool, or that's my man. It was already family.
Starting point is 00:13:39 It was just natural, brus. And he had that vision. Like, you know, I always say this. He's the elder in regards to doing comedy. You know, he's been in the game longer than both of us. So he had an understanding of what it took to get to another level, even with what we were doing. And, you know, it's just a level of trust that is built when you coming up together,
Starting point is 00:13:57 but still having the ability to be able to look at somebody and know they know more than you know and trust their vision. that they didn't went to the places that you haven't been before. Even if it haven't been on the level of success, he still had been through those trenches. So we knew like, all right, man, what you were talking about doing,
Starting point is 00:14:13 that's what we need to do. And it's worked out. Anybody could have an idea or start something, but they can't see it through. So it's cool that, you know, you had the vision and y'all came together and seen it through. You guys are hilarious.
Starting point is 00:14:29 You know, I feel like every time I'm around comedians, they test their material on me and shit. Like I said at the nick game next to Tracy Morgan, y'all, Iggy still got diabetes. I was up in heaven. He's talking crazy, and I feel like every time I laugh, he's checking the box off. Like, okay, that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I got him. Y'all check your material on anybody? Not on Fat Joe, I'm not. Just to leave out this building, it's 150 Puerto Ricans waiting on me outside. No, sir. Nope, not doing it. I didn't listen to too many of them stories.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Like to me, honestly, man, like you tell the best stories in hip hop. In the world. In the period. I mean, you know, and that's such a big thing because we were just talking about how fame has changed in regards to the way we came up. We came up watching y'all on the TV. That was a world away from what our reality was. I'm from D.C.
Starting point is 00:15:21 You know what I mean? I grew up in the city watching the box and watching Rap City and all of that. So to be able to get- Shout out to Wayne Perry, man. Yeah, for show, all the way. That's let you know what type of gangster nigger this nigga is. Shout out the killer niggers, man. But no, in seriousness, we didn't get to experience fame in the same capacity.
Starting point is 00:15:42 So to be in a space now where you get to hear old stories that we were watching from on the other side of the TV. It's crazy. And you tell the best stories, man. Thank you for the compliment. You know, you guys made a lot of dope-ass music like me coming from down south. Like the shit, the way that y'all was so, like, descriptive with shit. It just made me want to go to New York. Yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And then it's like listening to the locks, I didn't know that Yonkers was completely different from New York. Like, I went out there. They got yards and shit. Offences? Yeah. Yonkers like a gumbo of everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I drive you around you and think he was everywhere. The Bronx, Baltimore, the land. Yeah. It should look like everywhere. Who are some of your influences? It seemed like y'all all was each other's grudges and helped, you know what I mean? But you had to have some coming up younger, it had to be some comedians you really am. It was a lot of comedians, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Like that Bernie Mac Kings of Comedy set, it really was like a defining moment for me. Because it was something that I could identify with to be like, oh, that's, that's, I'm one of them. I'm a comedian. Like the Richard Pryors and the Red Foxes and the Martin Lawrence and. and all of the comedy comedians and deaf comedy jam and just the culture, the music, bro. Real shit. The lifestyle, you know, like the same way with the music,
Starting point is 00:17:11 you get influenced by your neighborhood, by the dope boys, by the, the flat girls, and all of that, bro. It's a mixture of all of that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Martin was a big one for me because, you know, just growing up, my father got murdered when I was a baby,
Starting point is 00:17:27 so I was the man in my house real early. You know, I had that respect. responsibility. So a lot of times when my mother was gone and at work, this was what was raising us in a sense, sitting down and watching Martin for 30 minutes or watching the Jamie Fox show for the next 30 minutes or hanging with Mr. Cooper and all of these different shows. George Jefferson. She is. Sherman Hermesley. I'm notorious for fucking the name, Mike. Don't worry about me.
Starting point is 00:17:55 You know, but you don't know what it is. But you know, just being able to, you know, and then like for me coming out of the city, earthquake, you know, guys like that that, you know, I got to watch people that I looked up to laugh at because I didn't grow up wanting to be a comedian. That wasn't necessarily my dream. I wanted to be in the streets because that was my environment. That was what I was surrounded by. But those guys, this is who they thought were funny. So that is what steered me towards what I understood comedy to be. So once I got into it, I was able to really easily revert back to what I was, you know, used to. And that helped me just understand the game once I got in it. And the first comedian,
Starting point is 00:18:30 ever seen live was Ricky Smiley. Live? Yeah, yeah. Rick and Smiley, he used to do these prank calls CDs, right? My mom used to love Ricky Smiley. I love those shit. They still do it. You know, they got nephew Tommy with Steve Harvey in the morning.
Starting point is 00:18:50 But the Ricky Smiley joins was even before that. Yeah. Yeah. I love those shit. I live in Miami. I know what time it is with we call you, y'all. This is the phone company or this. And he will fuck with you till you lose your mind.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And then be like, I, Jay, the Stiles gave me your number. Like, it's prank calls every morning. Bro, it was some classic shit. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news.
Starting point is 00:19:19 We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name?
Starting point is 00:19:35 name Hey Jonas, guys. I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
Starting point is 00:19:54 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
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Starting point is 00:20:34 We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so. wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing and we're
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Starting point is 00:21:51 trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source. the athlete themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real.
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Starting point is 00:22:32 And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife Life and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. You know, my thing is I don't get hot. Why not? I just don't. You want that story? Beating the shit out, niggas too much. You can't be.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I got on. Don't do it. Listen, I got high the first time in my life, right? And. Were you fat joy at this time? Yes. Yes. And the girl was like, yo, we're going to have good sex.
Starting point is 00:23:00 We're going to have this, that. So I smoked with her for the first time. I ran out the house butt naked. She ch-smoking. Middle of the night. No, it was weed. Man, I'm trying to tell you. I had to eat some freaky.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I'm running down the block, ass naked, and she gets in my car. She's like, Joe, get in the car. I'm like, yo, I'm catching a heart attack. I'm going to die. Yo, this. I got to go to the hospital. She convinced me to get in the car. We make a U-turn.
Starting point is 00:23:26 We go back in the house. I take like eight showers. I never smoked that shit again. That's that shit. I don't want that Joe naked running down to Times Square. But let me tell you what happened to me. But let me tell you what happened to me. One night, I'm in the crib, and I never believed it secondhand.
Starting point is 00:23:40 If I believe in secondhand smoke, God damn, I'm fucked up. My lungs, my lungs is fucked up because I'm in the studio every night, they get smoking thousand pounds of weed in front of me. So one day, we in the studio, and they smoking man, we in, they got the BET shit on there. And I don't want to say it was Bruce Bruce or it was Lavel Crawford, but this guy was so big. Yeah, like a purple suit on that.
Starting point is 00:24:02 His head was small. And I didn't realize I was high. right and the man was talking about he was addicted to crack and then crack me to him yeah yeah yeah come on and smoke me some more of this and yo
Starting point is 00:24:15 the nigga looked like a human Eminem like this shit I almost died I tried to commit suicide by laughter like I was like literally was diving on the floor
Starting point is 00:24:27 trying to die like yo the guy was talking about he smoking crack but to me it looked like you know how you see the commercial that the M&MB talking, it was a human M&M talking like this shit.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I was like, yo, this shit crazy, but I realized I'm high. Yeah, you can't get high, Joe. Yeah, you got to even go. No, I can't get high. You can't get high. You're getting butt-negged. Do you imagine this was big fat-jou
Starting point is 00:24:50 that when you were, you imagine. I was outside. This thing, got him this lady called butt-necked. It was his car. It was his car. Listen, recently. His car and picked them up. My brother Rich opened the weed dispensary in Harlem,
Starting point is 00:25:04 Dynasty Commodities and just to show we stand by the product for 35 years. I never smoked. I smoked in front of his joint. I had security and everything with me. I thought I was running out butt naked. I smoked the shit. Let him know we got the good stuff in Harlem, Dynasty Commodity.
Starting point is 00:25:20 But you know what? I handled it this time. I'm thinking of getting no, no, no, no, don't do that. No, don't do that. Let me start you off. Slow. I'm not fucking with you. I'm not fucking with you. You got the pure. Like if I tell people all the time, like I, you know, I'm social smoker.
Starting point is 00:25:39 You know what I mean? I don't smoke like that. It's very social. But the reason why is this nigga. So we, this is the second season of Wild and out, right? You know what I'm saying? And we had just had the first season. We did the first old school battle like that shit that went super viral.
Starting point is 00:25:55 So we meet up. We get ready, get ready to, you know, go back and kill a game again. So Lo's like, man, the weed ain't coming, but I got some edibles. And I'm like, I bet I ain't never did an edible before. I took a little piece. This was when the Super Bowl was in New York. So we go down to Times Square. We go to Applebee's, get something to eat.
Starting point is 00:26:13 We're walking back to the hotel. Lo's like, man, hey man, how you feel? I'm like, I don't feel shitty. We'll eat the rest of that piece of the little pieces you broke off. It was blue, I never forget, blue raspberry, like fruit roll up. I ate this whole piece of this shit, man. We go back to this to his room. We talk for about an hour, right?
Starting point is 00:26:30 I'm like, let me go downstairs and go to sleep. man, I went back downstairs and that door closed on my hotel room, nigger, and it was, I never in my life. Man, listen, this is how I knew I was high. I stood at the door and I'm like, I can taste my teeth. Go.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Oh, my hell, shit. I can taste my teeth, man, I'm in that trip. I'm in that trip. I was in that trip. I was in that shit come at you and you like, you can't control your, nah, I can't do that. I had to say this nigger life one time. How many times in your life
Starting point is 00:27:04 and you got high to the point that you were dumbed out? Like you did, do you hallucinate? What's the highest you ever been? What's the highest you ever been? High. High-ha is that, though, Kiss. I know you got some stories.
Starting point is 00:27:20 You know, did that shit to me? We shooting the video in the desert with tigers and shit. We shot this shit that looks like I'm cooking. We in the desert with tigers. Me, Remy, fucking Frenchman. Hold on, oh, look. Who the fuck put the tigers in the desert?
Starting point is 00:27:36 No, we put the tigers. We put it in the, it's a video call. It looks like we cooking, right? And so we shot it. Y'all can look. It's not cat, right? The point is, I walk in French and shit. I'm joking with him,
Starting point is 00:27:48 and he got some chocolate chip cookies. So I take a bite of it. I'm not noticing the whole fucking trip. Everybody knows I don't get out. The whole trailer's laughing, this and this and that. Next thing I know, no, niggis is like, well, I'm like, you're going to say,
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yo, that shit, you know. That was infused. It was like, how you doing? This and this. I said, no, I'm good. This, this. So I start banging on Remmy's trailer because you know,
Starting point is 00:28:11 not for nothing, no disrespect. You know, I shot a video with Cardi B. She did I make him for five hours. Real? Girls, they could do that. Like, Rebbe was taking long. I'm paying for this shit, right? We're in the middle of the desert tigers,
Starting point is 00:28:24 all type of shit. I'm like, yo, I'm banging on the door. Yo, son's going to go down. Sun's going to go down. She knew immediately. Lee, she opened the door. He said, she said, what do you do? I said, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:28:36 She said, it's fucking 11 in the afternoon. The sun is out. What the fuck are you talking about? What did they do? She went over there, French, and it was like, yo, we gave the weed cookie. She was dying laughing. She knew I was high.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Sun's going to go down. Sun's going to go down. In the morning. I'm banging on the door. Sun's going to go down. Yeah, that's probably it's going to take the longest for the sun to go down in the desert. Man, it's going to be up for a minute.
Starting point is 00:29:02 be there. Still there right now. Man, let me tell you something. But those that don't know, what's the origin of y'all show? Because you interviewed me before, y'all, I got like a twist of y'all show. It's not just people would just think y'all in there talking shit, but, you know, let the people know. No, it's a freestyle comedy show, though. It's literally improv.
Starting point is 00:29:25 But y'all got good interview skills, too, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I do your shit well. But see, the whole thing is, we don't. the traditional interviews that always just questions, bro. We really like to interview people that we fans of, that we can show love.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And people, like you said, the influences and the people who gave us little bits and pieces of the game. So it's never like, so how did you get started, Jada Kiss? We don't talk about none of the shit that's on the blogs, none of the controversial shit. No, you don't. We're not just going for it.
Starting point is 00:30:00 No, you don't. No, you don't. You don't hate that joke. You don't hate that joke. You always come with the question. That's how y'all end up with delusional records because you be asking the bullshit. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:30:12 You know, you think I ask the bullshit. You come with the question. You come with the Wendy Williams-style questions. No. You do. You do. You kick it off. And then you always, and then it's a real smooth how you do it.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Yo, if you don't want to talk about it, I totally understand. But I got to know. Then you come with a question. and Jada'd be like, oh. He'd do that because he knew they can't say shit, man. No, I'm just, sometimes I would answer it different. You know, like me, I studied KERS1. I studied L.O.
Starting point is 00:30:51 When I first came out, if you look at my interview, I'd be like, nah, I mean, no, I'm saying. They'd be like, yo, what colors this guy? Nah, I mean, no, I'm saying. I didn't. I don't know why I looked so stupid on B, T, D.E. like, no, I mean, I never had like the skills to answer questions articulately. So I, back in the fucking VHS days and all, I had tape interviews from KRS and L.L.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And I will watch them over and over again to learn how to actually answer questions and have social skills. Yeah. So, um, that nigga L.L. Kooja is diabolical. This one thing came right on the record and said, they called me big L.A. Nobody ever said that Nobody's even uttered that I don't think he'd get the credit he deserved evil man
Starting point is 00:31:39 Like LL literally is like he's He created the term goat Like it didn't exist before LL Like he was- I give him the credit Every time I see him I mean like the dude has been rapping Since rap started Like he literally has been
Starting point is 00:31:54 I mean that's what I'm saying Like it's still relevant to the state It's still relevant to now. It's like when you talk about DeMont Rushmore, it's like the thing that he's conquered every aspect of the game, acting, you know, rapping. I mean, I don't know if he was in,
Starting point is 00:32:12 what was that, uh, with, with Jamie Fox playing football. And he had a Sunday. Yeah, he had a fight too. I mean, all of that. Like, that dude is, is one of him and G-wrap. Like, him and G-Rap. When they put that nigga in the horror movie,
Starting point is 00:32:26 the Halloween joining, he ain't died. Yeah. I knew then. I knew then, bro. You know, the black dude's usually dying in the opening credits. Yeah, you know, they get that. Stabbed the black dude.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Christmas, 2006. Yeah, you're dying in the preview. You know, I watched this. They purposely made the white girl die first. In the movie Cinnis, they made the white girl die first. When the boys can't. That's what you got on. I'm telling you, we always, what he just said?
Starting point is 00:32:54 Yo, the black dude died first. This is the first time the white girl died. The black dude died the summer before the movie come out. The white girl always died after she tripped. Yes, but the black guy dies first. The black guy died and then the white girl tripped over the black guy. She didn't count if she came back, though. She was at the end.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Yeah, she ain't died first. Yeah, she was just the first back of the time. No, she lived the whole movie. She lived for the whole movie. She was alive at the end. Yo, that sin this shit was crazy, right? You know what I mean? That shit was a trip.
Starting point is 00:33:27 But yeah, like that, just getting those guys to from like that era, like I said, L and G rap. Like, to me, cool G rap is... G-rap, Chris, Boster. G-Rap versus just... Raq Kim. Yeah, all them guys, man. I remember when I heard that verse, that first time I heard that verse he did on the mob deep,
Starting point is 00:33:46 you know what I mean? You're when the gats revealed, you cats get peeled and that's the real. Fuck the bitcher ass and switch fast niggas to lack the real. When the slugs burst G-R-R-Mame. Be aiming at your muck first. Niggas is bloodth. But see who get plucked worse. We dug earth.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Places put the nickel plate is to your facial. Bullets ain't. racial kid, they only hate you. Like, nigga, what? Why? Why do you have racial bullets? G. Ray, he's still before his time. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:09 He's gonna definitely catch up to it. His time is somewhere up there. Like, do you, do y'all have, as guys that's been in the game for over 20 years, like, do y'all have people that you haven't rap with that you want to rap with? Is it, is anybody left? I actually got to do a verse for G rap, but, um, you've been, bullshit. You've been bought, you've been stolen that first, man, Jada. I ain't got no damn time.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I'm shooting no reason. I mean, Joe Jader took over my life. But, yeah, nah, Andre three stacks, Stevie Wonder. Oh, wow. I wanted to do a collab, but actually these three stacks okay did. I just gotta speak to Stevie. See if I could see eye with Stevie and we get this. Well, you know, you got to show your song, man.
Starting point is 00:34:55 What the fuck, man? You gotta talk about on the song, man. Come on the song, man. Come on, Jada. You know, I had a little bit of skills case I got to feel a little bit. You know he going to hear that shit. Yeah. Oh, Joe?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Hey, not only is he going to hear it. When he walked up to him, he'd be like, I've seen that shit, you see it. How about you, Joe? You go to come up and say, I've seen that shit you said about me. The only one person I never worked with did, I would love to work with, and it's Dr. Oh, shit. No, I never did it, Dre. At all people, I never did a Dre.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I got a song with Drake. before this. I don't have a song with Drake. Bilal. He produced one of the Balow single. Yeah, I ain't got it. You know what I'm saying? So that's about the only person.
Starting point is 00:35:41 We work with everybody. You know, to be the greats is Eminem, the greats is, you know, I started with Big Pun, one of the greatest, Big El, one of the greatest. Of course. We got the rock with Hove. And shout out to Norrie. We didn't get to tell them,
Starting point is 00:35:59 but, you know, thanks for Norrie and Memphis Bleak for making the all the way up remix possible. They say I never give them credit. So I had to give them credit, but I've been able to work. I've been able to, you know, a lot of times I like to work with people that could be my friends, but I admire that work so much. And so like Mary, like Mary be in my house all the time, but, you know, Mary. That's funny that you brought it up because she's going to take,
Starting point is 00:36:27 I say this shit all the time. I want to go over Mary J. Blige's house and just kick it on like a Sunday. Well, you come to mind. She's there all the time. I know she's going to have the vibe right. The music going to be good. She's going to be sipping a little wine. You know, she's sipping wine that got some of love like that.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Yeah. She gives it up. Shout out to me. I love Mary. Your Mary also know how to throw them shots. Shut out the palm. Mary is a hood. L.T.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Yeah, that's the story about. So she'll sit there and, you know, and she'll be like. Keep it solid as in. Yeah. Just because she's the MJ, she ain't, and she'd chill, you know, that's all I should you said. When I've been saying that shit for like 10 years. I knew, I could feel it. You know, when I tell, when I get to telling, when I test my material on Mary, right?
Starting point is 00:37:12 Because Mary said that she liked to hear the stories when I said, she was like, you ain't shit, dick, you ain't shit, Joe. I'm like, yo, man, what's up? Nah, you're fucked up. Like, you know, because I'm telling other real stories. Yeah. I can't tell here. Yeah. They're dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Like, right, you know what I'm saying? Like, you were like, you were like. Like, dumb shit. And when I'm telling us, you're like, you ain't shit, you ain't shit. Listen, if you can only imagine, like, that's the thing about the podcast.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Like, you know, you watch podcasts a little different. You'll put it on and be eyeing your clothes or cleaning up, but you'll walk out and walk in and this man will say some wild shit and you don't know where the conversation was at. The other day I was watching, all I heard was you say, yeah, I got to taste that shit. I'm like, what the fuck is you talking about, man?
Starting point is 00:37:56 What type of shit he got to taste, man? What is he going to taste? Junior cheesecake and some shit. I need the glitz. That was crazy. Need the glis. That's really not crazy. It is.
Starting point is 00:38:08 No, you said I'm a like, he said, I'm a glizzy monster. Serious. Serious. Yes. But the point is, the point is you got to be vulnerable. You got to be real. The people got to, you know, that's the problem with society now.
Starting point is 00:38:26 We want to hide shit and be like we perfect. Fuck then. I like a hot dog. Why you tell me I got to go to Turkey then if that's the cake. Push back. I thought it was far as ability. I got that. He got one of the best shit. He got one.
Starting point is 00:38:41 You look like you were saying DeJango and he shot half your shit back. Yo, the Django? Come on, man. That was racist, Joe. Come on. That shit was like. DeJango. You got a whole topic.
Starting point is 00:38:54 You got him. Man, no, I'm not messing with Joe, man. There's too many Puerto Ricas. I know they hear. I'm telling you the truth. They're telling you the story. You know the guy she's going to be. Listen, I'm telling you the truth.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I'm telling you the truth. I'm not being funny. I'm not, this. Go to Turkey. Get your shit right. He likes this shit. I like my shit like that. I like my hair like you like glissies.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Not like my hair like you like glissies. This is the same thing. You know what I'm saying? If you can enjoy a glizzy proudly in front of 50,000 people at the Yankee Stadium. Okay. I can walk around like the...
Starting point is 00:39:31 I do it. Like, I really be in... You know what I do when people ask me about Chico? What? I just... I try to make them feel bad for asking me. Man, what's up with Chico, man? Tell them to cut that shit off.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I'm like, that's fucked up. Because you know we're about to have surgery, right? And then they'd be like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. You got a guilt triple, man. Fuck that. She can I don't give a fuck, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:00 That's this shit. Something. With D.C., right? You know. Shout out to D.C. He would have been here, but the flights was messed up. I love that. The airport is crazy lately.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Crazy yesterday. And, you know, his wife passed away. Do you guys ever get serious? Like, was that like a serious? Man, we didn't have been through so much, man. My mom passed in 2021. And, you know, that was, that was. a major L for me because I only had my mother, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:32 Like, and having to adjust, like, I dealt with a lot of death in my life. I've lost many, many people in my life and you think that you're prepared for, but nothing prepares you for that. And when I went through that, they were there for me, you know what I'm saying? Because Lowe's lost his mom right before we started shoot wild another. You're never the same after that. And when Fly went through what he went through, it was just a blessing that we understand each other beyond what we do.
Starting point is 00:40:57 We're brothers, for real. So we know how to be there for each other. And that's more important than anything because that support system that you have through times of tribulation is more important than anything you can ever do. And he's such a warrior. He's a, you know, this man, he's a warrior.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Like the way he was able to handle it on his own made us proud, but still being able to be there in times where you don't have the answer or you just need to just talk about something completely different. Being able to be there and being one of the people that a person wants to be there counts for everything, man. But you ever go through someone with somebody and they make you, like, it makes you respect them on a whole other level.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Br, it's like, D.C., he's a wow man out the group. Like, we met him when he was young, like 20, 21, when he came around us, bro. And to see him go through becoming a father, to calm and down, being a family man, and then for him to have to go through something, so life-changing, so life-altering in front of his kids and hold it down and still do his shows
Starting point is 00:42:06 and still be famous and still get criticized with the public, you know, like, because it's a public thing. Everybody got their opinions. Everybody got their theories of what happened or what didn't happen or how he should be handling it. But then it's like, brother, to see him rise above all to keep the face. It's really hard.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Stand up. Be a father. Not go find another chance. check to say, help me with these kids. Like, really get up every morning, drop these kids off, make breakfast, don't miss nothing, go to recitals, go to dance practice, and really see him stand up and not have to lean on nobody,
Starting point is 00:42:42 not need the help, not not accept it, but for him to do it by itself. And I've never seen a tear fall out of this man face. I know that he did, but I never seen it. I've never seen him have a day where, he can't come outside or he laid up
Starting point is 00:43:01 or he in that dark space or he ain't himself. It gave me a whole other respect to be like, bro, when you got a relationship and your faith like that is with God and even when you're at your lowest, you don't let nobody outside that house see it and you still go do your show
Starting point is 00:43:20 and you still go rock 10,000, 15,000 people, get the first flight home, get right back to dropping kids off at school in the morning. that's different. No, he built different. Built different, man. Built different, you know what I mean? All the way, just the pillars of strep and that's how we feed, we feed off each other.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Like, we've all watched each other do it in different capacities. Like, you know what I mean? Like seeing the things that you go through as men, you know, a lot of people from the public perception don't understand. They look at your life and they assume that because you have things that things make everything better. But things don't mean anything where life is, you know, I mean, when life is going life.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Life is going life. And when you go through those types of situations and you get to watch people that you, you know, you already have an understanding how strong they are, but you get to watch them do it. You know what I mean? And watch them implement that strength.
Starting point is 00:44:12 It's just something, man, you just be proud that God put the people in your life that he put in your life. Yeah. It's a lesson for all of us to learn from that. Like, we were supposed to be around each other for a reason. You know what I'm saying? Like he said, I lost my mother
Starting point is 00:44:26 right after the first season, in a while and out. Then I have to go back. And he's seen me struggle with some stuff in there. Just because people say things and they don't understand where you at with it. They don't know how this is going to affect you.
Starting point is 00:44:39 You don't know how it's going to affect you. When that moment going to hit you, what's going to make you break a sound or smell? You know what I mean? Take you back to certain memories and stuff like that. And to have somebody that can understand that. Like a real brother, not your partner that you work with. Like the ones who are going to call and check on you.
Starting point is 00:44:58 When they know about when the call stopped coming. Yeah. That's a real shit. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
Starting point is 00:45:19 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I think it was on a call. about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
Starting point is 00:45:50 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app,
Starting point is 00:46:05 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?
Starting point is 00:46:30 We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody's.
Starting point is 00:47:04 gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. because people scoreboard watch.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth? Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, learn the hard way. Open your free, our heart radio app, Search learn the hard way and listen now. You know, it's the one thing, right, that you wonder your whole life, right?
Starting point is 00:48:43 You wonder if that's going to break you. Right. So to have longevity in this game, to have the game changed to where everybody got to comment, everybody's going to, they violate whoever, right? And the one question you ask yourself, like, you know, I look at it. the people just mentally yell. I look at them.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I see them. When I drive my car and they're on the side, I see them. I look at them. And I wonder what happened to them in their life, what snapped their brain, what do them off?
Starting point is 00:49:17 What made them crazy, right? And I always say it's like when your moms die. I mean, I believe that it's a different type of pressure that you can't answer. You're not prepared for it when it's going to happen. you don't know if you're going to snap,
Starting point is 00:49:36 you're going to get depressed, you're going to go crazy, you're going to, this is about the biggest shit that can ever happen. You're going to do all of those things. That's what I tell people. In different forms. The way I explain it is the book of my life
Starting point is 00:49:46 with my mother and it has the end on it, which means I can't add no more chapters. So if your parent is still here, add as many chapters as you can because if the circle of life go to the way they wanted to go, then one day you're going to have to put the end on your book too, and your life will never be the same after that.
Starting point is 00:50:01 You know what I got to shout out brother Dre from Koolandre because sometimes you think people, right? You know, when your parents are hearing, they'd be like, yo, spend more time with them. You don't know. I'm telling you this, this, that. You hear them, but you also saying, yeah, why do you guys guys I keep telling me this shit, right? And so me, but he would always tell me, yo, and I'd be like, y'all, I'm going with my mom's house, my father's house, because I bought him my house, that shit was like an hour and a half away
Starting point is 00:50:31 for me. I still would drive up two, three times a week. That's a long fucking drive, bro, right? And the man would be like, yo, you're doing the right thing. You're doing the right thing. You're doing the right thing. I'm like, all right, cool. Because, you know, motherfuckers calling you Norris and fucking Mikoto.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And, yo, I got the steaks and lobsters. The wine is out. Everybody's trying to distract you. But you got to know that the nucleus of you, you know, the people who brought you into this world, you've got to spend as much time. as you can with them. Because when the day's over,
Starting point is 00:51:05 you know what I'm saying, and you can't communicate with them. It's over with forever. And I know now that that hour drive that you was making, you'll make a 10-hour drive every day if you could get them back just for. Oh, super facts. Before you start to shoot this show,
Starting point is 00:51:19 before we, you know, because we're the rookies of the year. So when we were shooting the intro, actually of us walking in the building and the stuff you see with the Joe and Jada logos, He was actually preparing for his mom's funeral. So I'm like, damn, this guy is made out of steel. Yeah. They would have to find me.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And they would have to find me somewhere. I don't know what I would have been doing. Didn't. He buried his mom. And we shot the first episode the next day. I'm looking at him like, this got different. See, when you look back and you reflect on that, bro, it's like, especially with your mom, she'd be preparing you.
Starting point is 00:52:02 your whole life for that day. Yeah. And there's, it's so many things that your mom has taught you that you don't even know that you know until she got. Until she gone. It's just like your survival pack kick in. The way she do things, like the way she loved. Like that's how you honor.
Starting point is 00:52:20 You know what I'm saying? Like my mom was the biggest giver, like a real life angel on earth. Like she dedicated her life to service other people. And that was the way that she found her happiness was being the light for other people. So when you have to go through that moment, if anybody can tell you,
Starting point is 00:52:38 there is no way to prepare for that. Because that moment, that funeral comes and goes so fast, you're sitting there and the next thing you know you by yourself. It's over. It's like, damn. From when you look at it, it's like from death to the ground. That happens in, it felt like 10 minutes. And you can never go back.
Starting point is 00:52:58 But the legacy, the love that she gave you, All of those things like it just changes you as a person, bro. That day is, that feeling never goes away. No, and it's value in being able to discuss it because there's a lot of people who are going through it. And like I said, if the circle of life go to where is supposed to go, we all going to have to go through it. And I watched my mother pass.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Like I sat and watched her take her last breath. And I remember walking out of the hospital and the hospital room. And it's the same hospital I watched my uncle pass away. And I thought I was prepared. But when that light hit me and I came out, that room, it was like I felt something I never felt before. And ever since that day, it's gave me a greater understanding of what, like he said, what she did throughout the time of my life because now when I think about all of the different lessons that she gave me that I might not
Starting point is 00:53:46 understood in the moment because I wanted to do what I wanted to do or whatever. Now I get it. Like, that responsibility that she instilled in me prepared me to be able to deal with her not being able to give it to me every day anymore. Yeah. Yeah, that's shit. That whole thing is crazy. I had my mother and father pass away within two months. So I'm going to the hospital. I'm in the hospital and I'm going from room to room. And they both sick. That shit was...
Starting point is 00:54:14 I salute to you, man. You know what I mean? For that... It's crazy. Salute to you as a father, too, man. You know what I mean? I know your son has, you know, autism. And I did that type of work for years.
Starting point is 00:54:26 And I know how much it takes to deal with that on a day-to-day basis, man. So salute to you for that, brother. and what you do and having to people don't understand i seriously that even we don't we don't abandon our kids we believe it that's commendable brother that's that's respectable no he's the biggest blessing i feel like if you're not a real father you abandon your kids uh you'll be cursed that's real so my thing is like you know what i'm saying you got to you got to support your kids man at all times because they're the biggest blessings and with joey he's just uh the biggest blessing. He's happy all the time.
Starting point is 00:55:05 He's thought, what's crazy is my mother and father really raised him. Right? And since they passed, he started doing shit. He never did before. Like, he's feeding himself. All the stuff. You just said that if survival pack kicks in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:20 No, he started to stand up. You just said that. The other day, he stood up and started dancing and they ran at him. Joey. Like, everybody was like, you know, and you know, you know, you know, his favorite is Daddy Yankee. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:55:33 So that shit came on and he was up there dancing and everybody went. He doing shit he never did before. Out of nowhere he matured. And he realized he got to get a little stronger and be a man rather than a kid. But, you know, Joey's the biggest blessing, man.
Starting point is 00:55:50 We love him. And I love that, you know, for years, you know, this rap shit is dirty. Tretary. Right? You know, when you got beef with all the dudes, I have beef with rap. You got to keep
Starting point is 00:56:03 Joey tucked because this shit can get real disrespectful out here. You know how these dudes do, right? They'll put them on the cover of a DVD. Like, yo, this... So I always protected them. And the weirdest thing is just one day, maybe I felt mature enough.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I had no more beef with nobody. I'm saying, man, let me show little Joey to the people. You know what I'm saying? They might have knew I had them and, man. I caught a lot. He caught more love. You know how many people dealing with this shit, like in real life and mostly the men
Starting point is 00:56:35 leave and leave the women alone with the kid or even men that deal with autistic or Down syndrome kids, you got to respect them on another level. And me, because Joey is who he is, I can spot them.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Even if I'm in an airport, I'm at a restaurant, I know these kids. So I immediately walk up to them and mad people be like, yo, thank you for Joey. you inspire us but you know that's just family you know what I'm saying you gotta be there for your family
Starting point is 00:57:07 how many kids you got that five five one bullshit boys too I got twins that's what oh okay two at the same time that's what it is
Starting point is 00:57:17 then twins what's that like like we should have your wife double everything man double two wishes double camps I'm not talking about money double doctors
Starting point is 00:57:27 double Jordan about money when the doctor when the doctor goes Surprise. What do you say? That's what it was. See, it wasn't like, it wasn't. I thought I was finished.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I thought the roster was over. So you get the, you get the news. Then you like, you know, it's two of them. It's two of them. Let me take this out carefully. I don't got no twins in my family. Are they different? Are they like one?
Starting point is 00:57:55 Yeah, they like me. They got, I'm a Gemini. So I got two different things. they got one each. You know, I said Jim and I's got personalities. They got two of my... His son, Jawan, is a personal consultant to the show. So when we feel like we're too old,
Starting point is 00:58:15 we ask them all the young dudes' questions. Oh, that's what I do. I use my daughter for the same thing. She is my liaison into the YN world all the way. So quick. I mean, whatever it is, I'd be like, hey, baby, what this mean? I know all the new slang and all of that because of her. You get me.
Starting point is 00:58:31 She keeps me in the game. Like, and that's the thing. Like, that's something we connect on because our kids are the same age. And he got a boy, I got a girl. So, and then this man's son is six foot four. Like six six, six. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And I'm like six. He ready to play for the Falcons or the Hawks or something. Hawks. No doubt. He loves some basketball. He loved a dunk on people. That's really, that's deep dunk. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Like that band up. He can really, like, get up there. Yeah, that's crazy. Six, six. I know I'd be. looking like, man, as soon as I find that tall nigga, your mama fuck, that look just like me, we don't have a problem.
Starting point is 00:59:08 I'll tell them all the time, brave. You keep growing, I'm going to have to help you find your real father. It ain't no, you can go back three generations and my family ain't nobody six, six. You know, my mother and father both short, like really short. No, his mom not short. Oh, my mother and father was short.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I remember 12 years old crossing the street with them feeling doofy as fuck. Dude, shit. Like, y'all, I got a hole in hand across the street and shit. You didn't have to do that. Well, they made me, you know, they made me do that, okay? Like, you know, I had a real protective mother and father, you know what I'm saying? So they was like, they was doing all that shit, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:59:46 Who's some of your biggest shows, biggest guess y'all had, would y'all say, man? Man. The biggest? Yeah. Biggest. I mean, you know what's crazy. You all the shows be dope, but you know. be one or two that was
Starting point is 01:00:01 that went out to park a couple, maybe I. Boosie. Oh, all right. I can see that. Boosey. Boosey. You know what?
Starting point is 01:00:09 We need Boosey. We did an interview with Dr. Fauci. Yeah, we did. Fouchy. Yeah, we did Dr. Fouchy. Yeah, we did Dr. Fouchy. Hey, Fadjo, you know what's crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Boosin would love to do this show. I can't speak for him. Yeah. But from the South, Busy, he always wanted to be embraced because he looked at y'all. I was on fucking. He don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:28 You know the love that he gets up here. Wife it down. You know, I think the experience it. I did the remix. But I'll definitely relay it to them and let him know. He's playing with me. Let me tell you something. Boosie.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Boosey is the truth. Oh, without question. And I love what he stands for and everything. He'd be saying the shit. I can't say. Y'all think I say crazy shit. I watch Boosey. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:00:50 The next show is you and him. You and him need a show. Yeah, well, no. That ain't going to last for one episode. I knew that. Come on, Fat Joe, man. Come on, man. No, no, I'm telling you, so legend.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Listen, man, that's my favorite shit. So legend. The one that just told you was like, yo, this dude tried you with a dude tried you in the bathroom. And he was like, yo, we beat this dude so legend. He drank piss water and everything. I sure did. I was like, the good thing is he never,
Starting point is 01:01:22 because the guys used to set me up. They come up in, your mom's a lesbian. and your father's a deal. And it cost me $50,000. Lawsuit. It got me at least 20 times. Damn. Why did you keep letting them get you?
Starting point is 01:01:35 Because they would come up and say to wow this shit and you got to hook off on them. And then this one guy, this is the one guy. The reason why I gave him props to that story was this is the one guy took the ass whipping on the chin and didn't come and get me locked up, didn't sue.
Starting point is 01:01:51 You know, he just took him walking. You know what I'm saying? A lot of guys now, you know, not even now, gee, years ago, man, I got set up so many times. I was like a big, you big dummy? I was like a big dummy. I mean, but how is the game
Starting point is 01:02:05 change in that regard now? Because y'all legends. I mean, so do you still have to move with that same intensity now that you did in the 90s and the 2000? See that guy there? He got no country. I see him in the airport. I saw him in the airport. No, no, that's Rich player. You see that guy? He looked
Starting point is 01:02:21 Jason Ball. I'm talking about him. I'm talking about him because that thing is like he will head but your face loose. I saw them in the import in the morning. I was like, man, a head button from this thing's the juggernaut. Let me expect you. All my security know, we fight. Just shoot when it's time.
Starting point is 01:02:40 That's it. We fight. We actually like to fight. Oh, I've seen you say it. The family show. We don't know violence. Yeah, none whatsoever. Nonviolence.
Starting point is 01:02:50 No violence. All sponsors. I mean, because y'all are, y'all, y'all been doing. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Y'all been doing it for so long that had to move through the game back in the day. Like, I ask people this all the time.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Like, what was the difference between being famous when famous was famous, like, versus now? Before the iPhone came up. Before social media, before the Internet. What was that like? I think it was more. I think it was beautiful. I think it was, like, the best time.
Starting point is 01:03:16 That's the, people got their different categories of the golden era, but I say the most golden is ever before this shit. You know what I'm saying? When everything had to be in here, when you can do something and don't have to weigh about somebody over there passing it to Harvey or whatever the fuck,
Starting point is 01:03:35 you know, any platform when you was able to, when life was a little more private, and when you had a good time, it had to be in here or in here, it was, you know what I mean? If you missed it,
Starting point is 01:03:47 it ain't no scrolling to find it the next day. You just missed it. You got to wait to the next one. You got to hear about it. I mean, yeah. That's what I think was. the best time in my life before these. He was still catching lawsuits before somebody.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Yeah, I was catching lawsuits. I was set up. Let's go to another second. You know, Mike Tyson paid so much money. Mike Tyson was like that, too. They used to set him up. You used to start with him. Like, you ain't the chip.
Starting point is 01:04:16 $100 million. Million dollars. Like, they were catching Mike Tyson all the time. I had to teach myself. I don't think I want a million dollars that bad. Like, a good. from Mike. Hell, no.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I don't think I wanted that. I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't know. If Mike hits you, you'll never be the same, ever.
Starting point is 01:04:32 You gotta wake up every morning and drink a chocolate milk and shit. He's gonna fuck you on. Oh no, he's gonna fuck you. You gotta drink it through your neck. He just beat the guy up last year on the plane, but he was just giving them ribs shots. He purposely wasn't hitting the head.
Starting point is 01:04:47 He never even ever gave it to burp again. Yeah, I don't want to run into none of it. Like, even like, every story that you hear about you hear about job back in the day, the Terror Squad. like they said you guys were the terrorist squad. Allegedly. Yeah, the terror squad and the warlocks.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Yeah, the warlocks. Yeah, like, that's just a different type of era. I couldn't imagine. They beat motherfuckers up with a chain. Big-ass lock on. Allegedly. Allegedly. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:15 Not just fights. These bros with a whole club. It's jazz-moving. Everybody fight. The promoter pissed on yourself. Everybody. That Joe is outside with 211 Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, and everybody that speaks Spanish. Yeah, for real.
Starting point is 01:05:30 And one check of Slovakia. That's the one you got worried about. Yo, where's my man from? We got one. Yo, we got one. How Croatia. We got one. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:40 He didn't like the human proto. Then he's telling the story the next day on the... So look, it's me, Nina Skye, Norrie, Jadake's cousin, and the Croatian. The Croatian guy. You need the Croatian guy. But I wanted to ask y'all this, though. It's like, you know, people throw around the word legends and, you know, icons and stuff like that. But y'all still active in the game, you know, like, before you got to taste the success and you make your little checklist of shit that you wanted to, you know, I want to work with this person.
Starting point is 01:06:15 I want to get this and get, you know, do the vacations, get a house, get a crib. But then you have anything left on your list of things that you want to do? It's not enough. It's not enough. It's not enough. I mean, like, he always said, you bless, you, you're thankful, you're able to do the things in life you want, but you got to keep working, this thing.
Starting point is 01:06:36 You got to keep working. I'm able to put kids through college by my mom and crib, stuff like that. So those is, I guess, some of the biggest accomplishments. But, you know, we're right here filming right now. Yeah. They pay some more bills. That's the beautiful part. Like, did you see yourself?
Starting point is 01:06:53 like back in the day. Like, you know, nobody really had the ability to know the trajectory or the way that the game was going to go, but you guys are media personalities now. Let me answer to this. How about I'm the guy who didn't tell the stories?
Starting point is 01:07:09 How about I'm the guy who used to hang out with Biggie Smalls all the time and never took a picture with him? I was thinking that street shit, y'all, we take no picks. We dis. I was the guy not telling the stories. And then who knew?
Starting point is 01:07:22 I figured it out. I get up in here, start talking these podcast stories, and they start going through the wazoo, and I said, oh, shit. These people want to hear some of this shit. But before I did podcast, Kanye will pull up on me, for real. All the nice guys will pull up on me, like, yo, tell me, Drake, pull up on me. Drake pull up on me, yo, tell me the stories. He told me about the time.
Starting point is 01:07:48 You was at something, and, you know, I would tell them the stories. That Joe's campfire. Fat Joe's Campfire, Ferell, Kanye, Drake, all those guys. Wouldn't they hear the fucking stories? You got to sit around the fire. I got a new show for a volume.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Logan and James and all y'all all at me. Fat Joe's can fire is going to go. For real. No, but I got an idea, James is legendary that we can slap on to this pause. But, you know, I got an idea. You know what I'm saying? I'm thinking about turning these stories
Starting point is 01:08:21 into like Charlie Murphy. Remember when Charlie Murphy was telling them story? Nobody didn't believe Charlie Murphy, Prince with fucking heels and the whole crew with, you know, my stories, I'm about to get some comedians to act them shits out or something. Yeah, I know something. I want to be in the one where you told about AI in Chicago.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Like, that's one of my favorite. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about the one with the dude, what was it, CAO, Kano, Kato. Kato. Kato. In Chicago. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Remember that one. Yeah, listen, I've been tuned in for a lot of time. Like, that story is, like, he said, man, And he told Avicen, he said, yo, his wife, get out the car. She was the first one with the BBL shit and all the shit. She got out the car with pasty on her nipples. Tooth, tooth strings on her nipples. Dead-ass naked, they had a hundred guys.
Starting point is 01:09:11 They had a hundred guys. They won Chicago. Anybody in Chicago's up there. No less than a hundred. He said, he got his man in the car's man of a freaked out fiend. He was like, you knicker get out of a car. He was like, nigga, don't look over there. I told him.
Starting point is 01:09:24 I told Raoul. I told me, Raoul. I was like, oh my God. I said, bro, they will fucking kill you. Do not look at that.
Starting point is 01:09:31 You got to ignore. You had to actually ignore that the girl, the most beautiful girl you ever seen is butt naked next to you. And you got to act like she ain't there. Don't look that way. So I have a birthday party. They come down. Right?
Starting point is 01:09:47 It was MTV Awards after party. Missy. Everybody's in there. Y'all guys was right there. And she's standing there. up there looking like a fucking alien at that time. Boy, I'm trying to tell you is nobody had the theory. She was like, and AI was like, yo, I need to get that.
Starting point is 01:10:02 And I was like, no, you don't mistake ever. You know, listen, the man kept telling me, yo, I got to get at that. I have to. I sat him down. I said, listen. There's what he said. I'll tell you what he say. This is what he said.
Starting point is 01:10:17 He said, yo. He said, Nick, he said, Nick, they're going to kill you. and not regular. They're going to kill you in the middle of the court during the game on TV. Yes. That's so serious, that shit. You knew it too.
Starting point is 01:10:37 That was ex-st-a-cated story. Cato was ex-s-men. I was talking about how they might have to stab Mike Tyson. And they was going to send Lucci at first because he was the biggest. He was 21 fingers. Who was going to have to be the, who was going to have to be?
Starting point is 01:10:52 internal brain damage. That's fucked up. The job rock paper scissors for that decision? He's like, because I'm not... I was never even qualified. I was never even going to beat it. I was always third. I was never going to be first or second.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I was peeing loose for the whole thing. No, that shit ain't right. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called,
Starting point is 01:11:27 Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 01:11:42 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
Starting point is 01:12:02 where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy,
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Starting point is 01:14:55 That shit ain't right. We fought a box a blue time. Right? No, I tell you true. We had a big bra in the club in Manhattan. They used to have these bouncer. These guys were to the sky cocked these. They just throw you out.
Starting point is 01:15:10 They threw us out. It was four of us. And one of the guys that we was fighting, they threw him out too. Oh, Wash. So, if he threw one of them with three, four y'all. Listen, not only that, he knocked out the biggest terrorist squad gladiators. So Tom Montana. her best friend.
Starting point is 01:15:30 He was the one. If there was ever a leader in terrorist squad, it's him. He knocked him out so, he knocked him out when the nigga flipped forward, right? Then my man, I don't want to say all their names because they might be alive.
Starting point is 01:15:45 They might be alive. No, no, no. I mean, like, you know what I'm saying? No, he knows the story. You know what it here. He knows. He goes, oh, no, no, no, no, my man. No, I got one for you.
Starting point is 01:15:58 No, it wasn't rich. No, he went up. The next one come up, he knocks him out. We don't know he's a boxer. No, no, he knocked him out. This guy, he wins all his fights. This guy, my man. Street fights, he wins.
Starting point is 01:16:13 He got knocked out. The next one came, got knocked out. Now, I'm the fat big guy. I'm the last guy he thinks is going to violate him. I throw a bottle at him and crack his shit over. He was like, yo, that ain't right. That is, nigger, this ain't no boxing ring. Are you fucking?
Starting point is 01:16:28 Crazy? Are you thinking you knocking me out? But check this out. Check this out. The guy later, years later, 15 years later, this guy becomes champion of the world. He's from the Bronx. He becomes champion of the world, right? And we're proud of him.
Starting point is 01:16:48 He's Puerto Rican. So we're supporting them and shit like that. So one day I go to Jimmy's Bronx Cafe and I'm with him. We're supporting them. You know what I mean? It's over. A long time ago. I never told them about it.
Starting point is 01:16:58 And he got real drunk. And he sat down and he said, you know, I know where I know you from. And I was like, this is 15 years later, right? So he said, you know, I know where I know you from. Right? You're sitting in a chair with me. I never forget.
Starting point is 01:17:14 We in Jimmy's Bronx Cafe. And I was like, nah, what are you talking about? He was like, your man told him on to her. You know, I knocked him out. Then your man such and such. He knew everybody. He knocked out too. He said, you hit me with the bottle.
Starting point is 01:17:27 I said, yo, forget about that, man. You're the champ of the world. Real talk. I'm like, yo, yo, forget about that. You're the champ of the world. Then he came back. He was like, nah, fuck that.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I never, I see your boat. I don't know if you're doing the numbers. I got a hundred niggas here. I knew it. I was about to say. Don't pound you are. Yo, one. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:17:48 We had one to a hundred. I said, bro, you're going to get pounded out. How big is Jimmy's Bronx Cafe? What? Thousands of people would say, he'd been to Jimmy's Bronx. Cafe. We up in there like this and I'm like, I've been supporting this guy. I thought he didn't know. I thought
Starting point is 01:18:03 he forgot or whatever the case may be. He's going back 15 years later. He's the champion of the world. We're supporting him. We go into his fights, showing love. And then he's trying to talk that shit. He got too drunk. I was like, yo, bro, you don't want to get pounded. You don't want to get danced on right here, bro. You're going to get danced.
Starting point is 01:18:19 He knows I know what I'm talking about. He's watching. That's great. People always talk about the tunnel. What was the other spot? The tunnel was the craziest spot. So that was the craziest. What was the other shit? What's the other legendary shit? Besides the tunnel.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Yeah, besides the tunnel. You know, up in the Bronx, we had the fever. We fight the bounces every week. Every week. I don't even know why he kept letting us back in. We're the fight. We're the shit with mad people. R&B niggies had mad fights.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Greenhouse, one of those shit. Chris Brown. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I used to go to that spot. Down by the meatpacking district. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Pause. Wow. You remember that club, right? That's what they got into it with, I think it was with Chris Brown and Drake and all over. It was some, yeah, crazy. You know, New York, let me tell you some. New York with no disrespect, it's survival of fitness. Nail all female.
Starting point is 01:19:25 No question. It's the only place. You pull up at a light and these chicks look like decent nurses and shit and singing, you get stabbed in your face, homie, you're at the ditching, you're looking at the car, you're like, Jesus Christ, New York got different type of people. Just to go to the bodega and make it back, you come visit your cousins to go to the bodega. Shit crazy, like you go, it can just pop off everywhere.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I don't know how to explain it to you. It just, New York City, it pop or you, the wrong place. at the wrong time. Anyway, but I got to ask, you from the Bronx, you're from Yonkers, what's your favorite borough outside of the one you're from? No way. Word?
Starting point is 01:20:09 For him, I'm answering for him. I'm answering for him. How are you going to answer for me, Harlem? Harlem. Bronx, Bronx dudes are like fake Harlem guys. You know what I'm saying? We're right over the bridge. He's about to have you in some most shit.
Starting point is 01:20:22 No, he said it. Not me. I'm serious. I'm not responsible. shit he said. It's like the knee bones connected to the... Looking rich. Somebody looking rich his face, dog.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Well, he opened up the weed spot in Harlem. That's exactly what I mean. Okay. Bronx and Harlem are so connected. It's like cousins a little. Yeah, it's like cousins right there. But like each other, but like each other. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:48 How about that? That's too, too. That's crazy. Like, I be hearing Bronx dudes talk about Harlem dudes. And I'm like, yo, what are you talking about? You in Harlem every day. I'm like, I'm like... Harlem. I mean, Holland.
Starting point is 01:20:59 We know you be there on there. I like, yeah, I be down there. Oh, you see the house. I like BK. I think I love for me and BK. And Queens. Man, the verses went crazy. Man, that was one.
Starting point is 01:21:09 That's the greatest versus ever. That's the greatest versus ever. That's the greatest. Yeah, you was on Adderall. Adderall War mode. Yeah. You know, man. When you apologized, you was like, yo.
Starting point is 01:21:20 I wasn't on anything for the sponsors. Yeah. I was actually, you can take a blood test. I know they got shit that can take my blood test. back in. I got to ask y'all this, though. And we didn't got in the fan mode, but...
Starting point is 01:21:32 Yeah, without question. Was Joe's favorite Fat Joe verse was Jada Kis' favorite Jada K's verse? Out of all your catalog. I'm like, if you heard this shit and you, like, that's the one that just take you to another level. Like, nigga I was in my bag when I did it.
Starting point is 01:21:48 One is... One is... It's one in the song from the Don Carter G now. Oh, you asking me to tell you what my favorite Jada' verse Give me your favorite fat Joe verse. My favorite fat Joe versus with Bigel, the enemy. It was like enough enough enough enough for the rise,
Starting point is 01:22:06 try to set me up, put me in cuffs and crush what I lus into dust. Plus, they want a nigger's soul, but they know big Joey crack and never rat a cat. Then he know for sure. That before the sauna. I left the streets alone since tone deceased. It almost killed his mama. So I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. You know, Bigel threatened me and made me write the rhyme in front of him.
Starting point is 01:22:26 And he was my little brother. He told me, I went gold for the first time. Take all your fans. Yo, hell was crazy. Right? So he threatened me and made me right in front of him. He was letting me know I'm taking all your fans. And so I had to get to like an elite level of rapping.
Starting point is 01:22:47 You know what I mean? So anytime I hear that record, I'm just like, wow. He was on one. Like I had to go. I had Big Al threatening me right in my face. I don't have a favorite verse. I don't think I made it yet. Damn.
Starting point is 01:23:01 For real, huh? You didn't bet. You got some free styles. Best one didn't come yet. So word? That better be fucking... When I listen to kids, I got questions, though. You be leaving me in suspense.
Starting point is 01:23:14 She said she was a model for a year and a half. And then she took her brazen out. But why does she stop, though? What happened to a modeling career? What she started doing? Oh, okay. Yeah. Anyway, I'm a model.
Starting point is 01:23:26 I'm K.I. Double. I don't even care what I was just talking about. I know my favorite. I got quick response. Hey, man, listen, my favorite fat Joe shit is we thugging. That's my favorite shit. Man, listen, you said, got the mink on, same color de range. I was like, yeah, that nigga Puerto Rigan.
Starting point is 01:23:42 He said, got the mink on, same color of the range. That's my shit right there. Let me tell you about that, right? That's Shelley, right? Yeah, yeah. We thugging, rolling on dugs. Pund had passed away. Hey, I never met R. Kelly.
Starting point is 01:23:58 At the time, R. Kelly's the God. People just really, we're talking about fame. And now, God forbid, he was doing them songs right now with Instagram and TikTok and all that. Like, he was like, he only rocked with Biggie and I think Nause at the time. Right? So pump asses away. You know, I'm depressed. I'm going through my stuff.
Starting point is 01:24:20 I think it was an All-Star weekend. And I walk up in there and R. Kelly's at the game. Like R. Kelly was like, I don't even know how to explain it to you. And maybe in Chicago he was regular. They knew him. But for us, we never really seen him like that. And when you see him, he was like, you're fat Joe. I was like, you're fat Joe, Joe.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Message. I walk over. And I'm like, yo, I'm not really confused like how R. Kelly knows me. Rest of peace, big pun. I love you, Puerto Ricans. I grew up with the Puerto Rican. In fact, R. Kelly introduced me to. from Chicago.
Starting point is 01:24:58 He was there with the Puerto Ricans and the Mexicans and R. Kelly he got some serious juice out there, right? So... It's apple juice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he... That's not the right shit to say,
Starting point is 01:25:13 Lo! Oh, no. No, he does not have... No, no, we're not going to do that. That's the wrong one. That's not it. That's what they serve at. Man.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Could we do this, right? So the long story short, he tells me, y'all want to do a song with you. At the time, I'm super street gangster. Like I have a cross story. I ain't the fat Joe I am now, right? So I grab a shoulder.
Starting point is 01:25:40 I say, don't lie to me. Don't tell me you doing the song. I'm not the one. If you say right now you were just joking, it's cool, but don't tell me you doing the song and you ain't doing the song. Nah, I fucks with you, this, this, that. Matter of fact,
Starting point is 01:25:53 I'm going to be in all life. Land will come down at the time I didn't even fly. So I drive down to a little. So Ron G. Shout out Ron G. Ron G. Because no one would give me a hit beat. No one. If I went to the track masses,
Starting point is 01:26:08 I went to the guys who made all the hits, they would give me fucking locks, mob deep, fat Joe beats. Nobody ever thought I was going to have a commercial hit. Nobody. And I knew all the hitmakers. They just wouldn't give it to me. If I told them and give me something, they'll give me. I shot you or something.
Starting point is 01:26:24 They won't give me that. So Ron G was like y'all. What's his all hits that he's seen? No, no, no, no. I mean like hardcore street. You know, before Dawn Car to jail, all that shit was hard, Grimy. 40 joints.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Grimmy, I'm talking about that. Frisbee, bro, with, you know, with a new audience, right? That guys with razors in their mouth. The shit with the R&B hook on it. Shit. So I remember I'm in front of Jimmy's cafe. Ron G. meets me.
Starting point is 01:26:50 He gives me a beat CD. and we dug in, and Bip, we started running around the car, the truck. Yo! Yo! We knew immediately it was crazy. So I drive down to Orlando is a true story. When I get in the studio, R. Kelly is there. Trackmasters is there.
Starting point is 01:27:14 So I play them. We dug him with both verses. Joe crack and I'm at and everybody in the room, these are New York guys with him, right? They looking like, oh, shit. We never heard crack rap like that, like an R&B hip hop, right? So he immediately dives off the couch. He got like a, you know he's bugged out. Like, just be clear, right?
Starting point is 01:27:38 He's so much of a genius. He's bugged out. So he grabs a tape thing. He goes, woo-woo, woo-woo. And I'm like, yo. And then, and then he goes, cool. So I play it for him. He was like, yo, that shit is fire.
Starting point is 01:27:54 He always talked like smooth. Like, yo, that shit fire right there, y'all. You know, this, now. But I can't do it now. I said, well, he said, my teeth hurt. My teeth hurt. Right? So now, this is fat Joe.
Starting point is 01:28:12 The gangster. This is the shot of my life. So I'm looking at him and said, what he said? Teeth hurt, man, I can't do it. So I'm like, I drove 20 hours. I'm like, looking at him. him, this, this, that. Then he gets up and walks out of the door. He disappears out of the door. Now, there's 30 minutes, an hour. Like, I'm trying to tell you, I was really, really super gangsterhood.
Starting point is 01:28:36 I was not polished. My man, fuck that. I get up. I open the door. When I open the doors, three in the morning, there's a fucking dentist working on his teeth with the chair back in the studio at three in the morning. Man, get the fucking on God. In the studio, I felt so bad because here I'm trying to go beef with him, right? Because I'm thinking he's trying to play me or something. The men got a dentist at three in the morning. I wasn't on that level of luxury or something.
Starting point is 01:29:08 I never seen no shit like this. I felt bad. Yo, I told you, my teeth hurt, Joe. This, this, this. I closed the door. Oh, I said, you, I'm sorry. So we go to a hotel. Actually, not even a hotel.
Starting point is 01:29:22 The shit was like a motel. You know what I'm? shit's with the doors outside, the Orlando's at an extended state. Orlando's hotel. The shit with the door on La Quinta and shit like that. So we're up in there. It's like four or five of us, right?
Starting point is 01:29:35 I wait a day. I'm writing because I was, I think I was doing, no, what I was doing, Jose. So I'm writing to Beach. One more day come. We don't hear from Al Kelly. Right? One more day come.
Starting point is 01:29:47 I'm like, man, fuck this, nigga, man. Yo, word to mother. Let's go back to New York. You nigga playing with us. This, this, this. It's this. So we get the truck ready and we're about to pull over
Starting point is 01:29:57 the New York and the phone ring. And I'm like, yo, what's up? He's like, yo, it's cows. I said, yo, cows. Like, I'm better at me. Hold up. I'm like, yo, cows, what's up?
Starting point is 01:30:07 He was like, listen. And he played, we talk, rolling on thumbs and all up in the club and wild and like what. And I was like, yo! Yo, the big change my life. And I got four hundredies
Starting point is 01:30:23 in my job. Yo. Man, Joe. God's the key to the top and it's full of honey panties with no top we take up up a draw and be like ooh
Starting point is 01:30:31 So when he played that It only been Biggie It only been Nas at that time Not even Jay and him wasn't working yet And I said Top dog baby I got it I got it
Starting point is 01:30:50 I'm like I got So you remember we used to throw them Terrasquah pool parties in Miami everybody you name was there A-I-M, Cam, this whoever you named get in a few of them but you had a hundred nicknought
Starting point is 01:31:02 Yeah, right I was there Yeah, I was 12 man I still was trying to come That was bananas It was out of control These food parties I'd be a promoter
Starting point is 01:31:14 And I remember all the rappers was there They was there Cam all of them Buster all of them And I went to the DJ And I was like yo Press play
Starting point is 01:31:23 That shit came on Dooch, do we eat the hugging, bro. And I see every fabs. I see everybody's face. And they was like, this nigga got one of frisbee. Is that cows? Is that all on the hook? Like, they was looking around like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:31:43 This last thing we needed was this nigga with one of these. It was over. And, you know, it changed my life. It's the first big hit I ever had, man. Man, that's love right there, man. But you got what? You got an upcoming tour going? Oh, yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Spin the block, man. Spend the block. We're going back out, man. We're going back out in the city again. All the cities, man. And that's the beautiful part. Like, that's why we call it Spend a Block. Because a lot of these places, we've been blessed to have been.
Starting point is 01:32:11 But the people love us, man. And we love them. So we get hitting a lot of the spots that we haven't been through. And the beautiful part about our show is it's improv. You know, it's all improv. We ain't never practiced. We ain't never, you know, got together and said, we're going to say this or say that.
Starting point is 01:32:24 So every show is different. That's fine. Yeah, so every time we go, they get a different show. So that's why we can, you know, be excited about going back to places that we've been before because, you know, we're going to give them something different. And we got new experiences and new things to talk about. The world has changed. And we always go off the top of our heads.
Starting point is 01:32:41 So it's going to be beautiful, man. Make sure you get your tickets. You know how that shit is when you're on tour and you get to, this time we got to, like, pick and choose, like where we want to go. And we can go, like, not just for the cities, but spots. We like to perform, man. You know, theaters that just had a different type of ambiance and arenas and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:33:01 So now it's like we kind of went through us handpicked, like exactly where we wanted to be. So it's gonna be a dope experience. We're familiar with all the places. We got a dope-ass audience and we know a lot of people that you guys- didn't want to travel and come see us. I remember the one special you have, right?
Starting point is 01:33:17 We have it on Netflix or something. Yeah. I watched that shit, man. That shit was crazy. Yeah. And the love. I love that your city, you know, well, you from originally. I'm from D.C.
Starting point is 01:33:27 He from Mississippi. That kind of love they give y'all. Yeah, but they show us love. You know, I love the ATL. You know, Jada knows I say this all the time, man. I wish I moved there years ago. And it's just because I just love the camaraderie. I love how y'all love on each other, pause, right?
Starting point is 01:33:44 Everybody gets love and it's unity. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's unity. And all you doing, the Jada kiss? Yo, Jada kids brand under a pillow yesterday. He was like the smallest little Joe and Jada,
Starting point is 01:34:00 he found a new one. Macanash. Bahraish. Not Bacadesh. Yo, he's trying to. My Godash. The little man. You seen the little man?
Starting point is 01:34:13 Yeah, yeah. That's what I remember. He told he's a man in the show. You know, that's facts. And you know what else I did? And they tried to, they be trying to kill you, saying you don't let people talk and all that. you be lying, fuck that.
Starting point is 01:34:24 They do have a Bronx day in Atlanta. Hello? Listen, they never want to pay me. No, it's just the fact that you know that. He likes him, though. He'll tell you Jermaine the Preeze from the Bronx. Oh, yeah, he didn't gave me the joint with the dates on it. So we got September 6th, we're in Detroit, the 7th, Indianapolis, the 20th, Columbia,
Starting point is 01:34:45 South Carolina, then the 21st Greensboro, Philly, Fairfax, Memphis, Nashville, Dallas, Houston, Hampton, Charlotte, Birmingham, New Orleans, Chicago, Cincinnati, and then we're going to end it off in Atlanta. Let me tell you something. What I heard there, I got to catch a couple. Hold up. All I heard did was a bunch of money, right? Why you hit that?
Starting point is 01:35:03 You guys are getting a bunch of money. That's all I heard there was. Not with him. Hey, they're getting to the bag. I have to recommend the Rewind the Time. Plus, rewind the time. No, no, you don't. I ain't got to go to Turkey.
Starting point is 01:35:18 You ain't got to rewind the time. You got to rewind the time. You got to rewind the time. You want to look like Tyson. Look, Loz. You could get one that's like your shit right now, the black with the gray gold teeth. Peep the numbers.
Starting point is 01:35:29 Yo, listen, peep the numbers. You can leave this shit the same. Hold on. Yo, Jay, let me. I need my deal. Why look 48 when you can look 36? Why look 36 when you can look 22? See, as, you know, the numbers go down while it's going down.
Starting point is 01:35:43 You got to why fight the time when you can rewind the time. This is the thing. You keep giving all our customers. I'll like, yes. She goes to tell you. Let me get a deal. No, no, I got on the car. When I use shit like this, like if I get a role or audition or something like this,
Starting point is 01:35:58 the ladies get mad as hell. Because you ain't you. They like the great shit. They just like leave it. This is a whole different audience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:08 That's why we ain't going to Turkey. When you got a thing. Then you start attracting women that own homes, SL 500s and shit like that. insurance. No, I like that. She liked to go on vacation. Big time.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Yeah, women that'll pay for you and shit. If you ever want to feel brand new. Rewind it at Sally's and CVS. Stavis, they're for real. Once you're an old nigga, you're just old nigga. You can shave that shit off. I'm a young old nigga. I'm a young old nigga.
Starting point is 01:36:43 36 and 48 is literally the same thing. Get that kiss, Yeah, for sure. Wake-ass up in the morning. You know what I mean? Watch the 85 South show to spend the block tour. You start to drink coffee, me. My dad's been a phone.
Starting point is 01:36:59 We love 85,000. Oh, yeah, I got a stand-up special on Hulu right now. Watch that. You know, if you got Hulu, if you don't got Hulu, download it, watch it, and then you can take it off after you watch it. Ladies and gentlemen, make some loud noise for our guest, Chico. My brother Lowe's on the Joe and Jayon show. We appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Hey, thanks. Good shit, bro. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
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