The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Albee Al shares his WILD journey: incarceration, tragedy & New Jersey hood life

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by New Jersey's own Albee Al. The Jersey City rapper shares the rollercoaster story of his career, from his five-year prison term for a gun offense, to learning of his ...brother's passing while behind bars, to making it out to the other side with lessons for today's youth on how to hustler smarter. Also on the show: Jada surprises Joe with Johnson's BBQ, Joe tells a WILD story where he stepped to a New York City "monster" who was extorting rappers, and Albee Al talks about the political problems he's had with Jersey City's mayor. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 And I know the feeling because I was one of them. So I can't even, so that's why I be like, you can learn for me because I used to be who you are today. And I was way worse than that. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? Joe Crack the Dawn. You know what it is your boy, Jada? This is the Joe and Jada show.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Every show legendary. every show iconic and we fucking destroying shit. These guys these guys are the fuck to say the least. These guys in the fucking river.
Starting point is 00:02:51 When you think of today's guests Oh, Flabby is sick. You think of Jersey City marrying projects. I think of the streets. Think of bars. Think of that cloth.
Starting point is 00:03:06 You think of you know, taking on a lot of shit and persevering and doing your thing. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother, Alby. It's Aubrey.
Starting point is 00:03:20 It's Robert. It's Robert. Honored to be here, man. Shout out to the goats, man. The legends. Just to sit at this chair, this couch with y'all, man. It's full of love,
Starting point is 00:03:30 man. I'm honored. I can't stop smiling. I ain't even that type of thing. Let me just tell you one thing. I got to be honest with you, right? Because that's all we do. You had the first request of Jadicus
Starting point is 00:03:41 to come on this show. Yeah. If it ain't Bruce Springsteen. He's lying. You're not my first request. Is that other requests? No, no. Requesting.
Starting point is 00:03:53 But it got to a point. It got to a point, everybody. I never seen those shit like this. There was frisery in my shit. You know what I mean? Then I calmed down. I see what this is.
Starting point is 00:04:08 There's no power here. This is going to put. Then I chilled out for a while. Then you hit me. They grow, got the new project. Now, I'm like, I can't let my nigga out. I can't, this is this one right here. I'm going to HR.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Exactly, exactly. Went to HR and said, listen. You went out. Y'all talk y'all because HR is a lot of Jersey. Yeah, yeah. Me, y'all go front on jersey? Damn, nah, we got you. Yo, HR's definitely a lot of fucking jersey in this motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Shout out to James. Shout out to the Jersey, James. He showed love on that Jersey shit. So you're from Jersey City, not Newark? Not for Jersey City, Marion Project. I used to hide out in Kennedy Boulevard. My aunt lived out whenever the cops, it was too hot for me in the Bronx, and they're looking for me all over.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I used to be in that Kennedy Boulevard over there hiding out in my aunt's house. Shout out my aunt Bevah, yeah. Why? That's a fish. No, no, that's real talk. So Jersey City, huh? All the way. In the building.
Starting point is 00:05:12 In the spot. Easy style, man. Appreciate it. Man, weird it up. New project. Before we even get into the new project, how long have you been home for a lot? Three years.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Three years. Make some noise for that. Yeah, man. How yeah. It felt good, too, man. Before I went to jail, it's like I started, like, heating up. I signed a big deal with,
Starting point is 00:05:35 shout with Ghazi. I signed a big deal with Ghazi. I signed a big deal with Ghazi. Gazi. What's up, baby? Shout out of the Gazi. Changed my life. 2019.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I signed a big deal with Gazi. but I'm talking about the money hit my account July. I was in jail September. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't even really experience, hey, I bought my cars and a couple of jewelry, you know what I'm saying? Took care of my moms and everything. Took care of my bros.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But I went right to jail right after that. And it was like, now all that money that I got, I'm paying it on lawyer fees. I'm paying to keep my car straight, trying to make your mom straight, all that shit, you know what I mean? So I was about to have my run. So now, right now, I'm home.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I'm back out here. So now I finally feel like I got running, I'm saying. So I'm just taking it and just going with it. Now I stop, full throttle. People don't understand it takes work. Yeah. I was just telling you, man,
Starting point is 00:06:24 the African king over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was telling them it takes work. So I've been seeing you grind and I've been seeing you put in your work. I've been seeing you move and doing everything you've got to do. We started this podcast with no promise.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Right, right. But we're in here three times a week going, going, going. Other guys might have thought we was delusioned or whatever. Right, right. But when people see the work then they're like, all right, I could invest some money with these guys because these guys work. Same for you. Your project's coming out through Gazi?
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yes, my own project just came out with Guzzi. So that's right there. It just came out on Halloween. It came out on Halloween. It's doing crazy. It charted. Number four in the country of Apple Music. You know what I'm saying? And it's special to me because it's called Everyday June Dirty and if you know my story, you know everything I do is for my brother. My brother got killed when I was
Starting point is 00:07:17 locked up. So the name of that album is Everyday June Dirty Even and that's the first album I ever put on a platform on the stream, you know what I'm saying? So that's like the first album I ever put on so it's the 10 year anniversary of that. So I dropped that album and just added like 12 new songs and put
Starting point is 00:07:33 like some of the old songs that like the people like favorites, you know what I'm saying? And I added like 12 new songs on it. Shit went crazy. So you in jail. how do they tell you your brother just got killed on the streets? Oh man, that shit
Starting point is 00:07:46 that shit was vicious man it was like it was crazy because I told the story before you feel me? You ain't telling it this is the biggest fuck where you told it
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, you feel me? You guys are fucking Dodo birds man, you talk to the real here they're going to hear the shit nah Yeah, so motherfucking I was when I was locked up
Starting point is 00:08:04 or whatever I was lied up for murder and I was ready downstate for like a gun charge and going back and forth to the county to fight my murder charge. So I was coming out for a wreck. I'm on the phone.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I'm talking to my mom and calling my mom and shit. And my mom, she's like, your brother won't talk to you. Your brother want to talk to you. I'm chasing a girl that was like, holding me down. She's holding me down for three years straight, strong, and she just tapped out.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Like, I ain't doing no more time which you probably got to her head. Like, I'm never coming home with something. You feel me? Because I've been saying I'm coming home every fucking year. And now I'm like, I'm been in this bitch. Three years now and I'm still fighting this body.
Starting point is 00:08:37 You something about that murder. That murder. when anybody cast that murder charge they immediately abandon you your own family scared to go to court
Starting point is 00:08:48 not for real right because it's a serious thing so everybody who think you're the most popular guy in the hood or whatever you cast that murder
Starting point is 00:08:57 charge the world start to change on you they don't get fucking that courtroom you know what I'm saying like so you got your moms in there
Starting point is 00:09:04 you feel me she don't raise you no matter what she'll always look at you like you her little boy and that judge in that process you are going to be tearing you down
Starting point is 00:09:10 to making it seem like like you're like a piece of shit you feel me and she they're saying that shit in front of your mother they're saying
Starting point is 00:09:16 that shit right in front of her not giving her how she feel what she, you know what I'm saying making she feel like she just raised the fucking failure
Starting point is 00:09:22 you know what I'm saying you know what I mean so that's what I was dealing with so I'm telling my mother I'm like yo call shorty on three way because she don't block
Starting point is 00:09:28 me she don't block me she ain't fucking with me mom so I'm trying to get a back because she was like my last leg in that motherfucker
Starting point is 00:09:35 so I'm calling her on three way I'm arguing with her. Boom, boom, she hung up. I called back again. My mother like, my mother like, your brother want to talk to you. Your brother want to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I'm like, mama talk to him. But call her. I'm trying to get her back. Chasing a bitch. You feel me? Call double back three times on this bitch. And then I ain't even had no time
Starting point is 00:09:52 to call my brother. My mother kept telling me every time I call your brother, your brother. So I hung up. Had to go lock in. It was time to lock in. Count time is done up.
Starting point is 00:09:59 The next morning, the police comes to my door and shit. Like, I'm thinking it's like, I'm thinking somebody dropped the slip on me trying to get me off the unit or something. They, like, shackle me down. Like, come on. Like, but they, but they,
Starting point is 00:10:08 but they, they, not trying to keep me calm, but they're not trying to tell me yet. Put me to the search worker, make a phone call. They're like, yeah, your mother on the phone. My mom's told me, my brother got killed and shit. You feel me? She on the phone crying and shit. And they put me on suicide watch after that.
Starting point is 00:10:21 It was like, it was real rough for a nigga, you, feel me? They let you go to the funeral or not? They said I was too dangerous to go to the funeral. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know what I'm saying? Because the severity of my charges, you feel me? It was like, so I couldn't even see my nigga,
Starting point is 00:10:32 couldn't even see him or nothing. So I had to eat that. And that shit turned me to a different type of nigga, like, made me so cold, made me hard on bitches. You feel me? Like, now it was like... He was killed nothing to do with you. It was just a random regular street shit, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah. Or without a regular shit, killed my brother over a bitch. You feel me? Like, you know what I'm in? All the time. That's the shit I'd be talking about. Now, that guy went to jail. I don't know the story, but he's in jail now.
Starting point is 00:10:58 She's up dick 10 minutes. Of course she did. That's what she's due. That's how that shit is. People don't understand that part of the game, too. You're ready to crash out of it with something that's going to laugh. They're just going to show her ass. There's some cuffs going on you, but you know what I'm mean?
Starting point is 00:11:11 That's growing pains for me. I learned my lessons with just going to do that shit. I move so much smarter right now, you know, for it up. I'm surrounded by jail guys. Yeah. So I know three years of milestone. Those are my friends. Those are my friends, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:11:26 One thing I want to help you with or bring light to. is you're having a little friction with the government over there. What is it? The mayor, when it's time for the man, when he's your project day, they keep blocking you, they won't let you.
Starting point is 00:11:42 We got to fix that because part of having power here tell you he's heavy with all kinds of shit, the older people nursing insurance, that is that. You need the governor's demand sometime on your side to help you elevate the state. especially when you're trying to do where you're from.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And I see you do mad shit and still keep blocking. I do, I do so much for my community. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we even doing a toy drive. You know what I mean? I do the back-to-school drives. I do shit out of rent. They don't even got to be.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah, don't got to be. Just because I feel like it. And I got to influence and people will be like they want to do shit. You know what I mean? But I definitely going to have to tap it with Joe. Because every summer they'd be having a concert in Jersey City. And he always there to perform, bro. You always did.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So whoever did, I know that's the mayor's shit. Tap me in because. Give me the back. He's got a new mayor right now, too. And he was trying to, like, get in contact with me, too. So that's the difference in my last time. Yeah, you better. You gotta get in contact with him.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I hope he this was trying to use me for no votes or nothing. You feel me? But it was just, like, trying to get a contact with me, trying to, like, yo, I don't know what I'm, I'm trying to, I'm trying to do shit for whatever. I'm a lot, whatever, because I be trying to do shit for my community. Like a concert, this is the show my youth. They only see certain people on Instagram. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I want to show them, like, because we never seen nobody famous in a hood coming up.
Starting point is 00:12:55 So I want to show them like... The Fat Joe used to be on Kennedy Boulevard before rap. I'm telling you, I was out there, Kennedy Boulevard, Chernew Square, all that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had a roller skating rink out there. I used to roller skating that motherfucker out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:12 You know, I know, I know what happened to the leg. What's the... I had to run, though. What's the... I want to say it's the high school. Their basketball team went to, like, the nationals and all that. But you had, like, a couple of years ago, you had a mean high school back,
Starting point is 00:13:27 a Catholic school high. I don't know. St. Anthony's been nice for Hedler. That's, they went to the dance. That's called Hurley. St. Pete, right? The college seat.
Starting point is 00:13:39 They went to the dance. Oh, yeah. They was in a dance, yeah. He was balling. He was balling. Yeah, St. Peters was going crazy. Yeah, that's up the block from the projects, too. It's on the boulevard, too.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Err it up. The projects is on the boulevard? No, not, not. The college. You know, I used to go down there. You know, I got a famous story about me and Big Punk going to the tunnel by ourselves. And Mike Tyson said security was about to pound us out. We all getting with them and then Mike Tyson came.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah, yeah. And jumped in. There was a club over there. What, Foxes? Oh, yeah, yeah, Foxes. So we performed that Foxes. And then Pum was like, yo, we had 100 guys with us. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Pum was like, yo, fuck all these niggas. Me and you, let's go to the tunnel twin, let's go. We went too deep. Oh, no. And we almost got into it with the security. but, you know, we used to rock that club that Fox is over there. So we got to talk about it, right? And I always feel like, especially now maybe I'm older, right?
Starting point is 00:14:36 But I feel like we celebrate shit in the hood. O.G. Such and such came home. And now he's going to sit there and tell us how the Holy Bible of crime. And, you know, we got a salute and all that. And so your story is a murder case. I really want to find out more. into that, but, like, you came from that. But the real thing is, three years no jail.
Starting point is 00:15:01 You in jail, you can't even go to your brother's funeral. Yeah, no doubt. Right? And so when I was a kid, many, many moons ago, horse, many, many moons ago, horse, I'm 14, they cut my whole neck open. I don't know how to explain it to you any other way.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Doctor said, I almost down the bat. I ran to the hood so ignorant to show him my buck 50. Y'all look, son, four 20 nags, they bust me open with the razor kid, this, this.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And when you young, your boys come back from doing time and Rikers Allen and all that. It's almost like the kids want to call. Right, right, right. Right, that's exactly
Starting point is 00:15:43 what's going on outside. And it's like, when I'm from, and I'm pretty sure it's like that in a lot of trenches, a lot of hoods and all that shit. It's like, you don't even count
Starting point is 00:15:50 unless you got a body out there. Like, them young boys don't respect nothing unless they got a body. And it's like... Scoreboard. You know what I'm saying? I respect none but that.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Fucking money, all that shit to them. They don't even care, you feel me? They don't care about none of that shit because they, you know, they get up as like a little Nike tech and some sneakers. They don't care about everything else. So this is already to get money over there. They don't care about getting money.
Starting point is 00:16:11 They don't care about that shit because they big homies ain't got money. You know what I mean? If they big homies have money, they probably focus on money. All these young boys, I'm telling you, it's like, they don't even respect that if he ain't got a hat on them. You got to catch a body. out there. That's trophies in the hood. Before it was
Starting point is 00:16:26 rollies with trophies. Big chains with trophies. Nice cars with trophies. That was bodies. Nah, this is he out there. dropped, son. Respect that now. You motherfucker taking 20 years on the chin, like it's nothing that dude. I was locked up. When I was locked up, I said young, 16, 17, 17, 20 years old, really sizing they bid up.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Like, man, shit. I'll be home. I'll be home like 38. I'll be back. Like, sizing it up. Like, be okay with that shit. Like, they're eating them 20s. They're up. Like, it's crazy. Eating 20s, like, like, it's like, it's like, Nothing. Like happy meals. You know what?
Starting point is 00:16:57 I'm going to focus on time. Yeah. Right. And the most valuable thing you have in life besides health is time. Right. So I heard my knee last week. Doctor said in two weeks my shit will be back normal. Time.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Everything I do that I try to do, if I got a court case that I want the shit to be over, it takes time. Right, right, right. You understand? So there's a real thing. reason why the people who figured out the greatest punishments on earth was time. Yeah. They take your whole youth. You come home.
Starting point is 00:17:35 You're 40 years old. Good luck trying to make it. Now, I'm not saying this impossible, but I'm saying it's highly unlikely for you to succeed 40, 50 years old. And it's the same story every time. Yep. Now, you're fine. 40, 50 years old, and you get back out here to do what you. Yo, man.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah, most of these young boys don't even like, some of them probably never even had their own place, own car, own apartment. You know what I mean? Never know what it feels like to live alone. And they out, they sit down with all of that time. They're still outside living with their moms. And they don't even understand.
Starting point is 00:18:13 You out there playing in these streets. You get killed with some shit. Them funeral was 10 plus 10 bands. You ain't even got that in the crib. Your moms ain't got that. That's why it's GoFummy account. Embarrassing your family. It's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:18:25 You know what I'm saying? You know what's crazy is that I was in jail. But I went to jail, I act like I was Jewish because they said the meals was better. That was bullshit. They're bullshit is worse. They go, they go, what is the sad? The halve mill is the best meal.
Starting point is 00:18:36 You got to eat a cold meal. They was coming through with a banana and peanut butter. Like, here you go, my Jewish brother. I'm like, man, get the fuck out. We're the food. The kosher meals. The kosher meals. The kosher meals was best.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I went out of me there. Where is it? Yo, James. Is it every Friday? The Muslim meals the best meals in it. Halalah. Every Friday the Jews They can't eat nothing hot, correct?
Starting point is 00:18:58 Well, I'm just saying Spirit. I'm not Spirit. James. Bro, I came up in there Leader of the Jews. They told me if they had the rest.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I'm telling you. Yo. Yo, I'm telling you the truth. Lead a leader of the Jews. Yo, I'm telling you. You see what I'm telling you. You know, he was leading with the Jews, but you said.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Leader of the Jews, you don't listen. You sit with all the poppies, though. They told me the Jews eat the best food. Fadjo, you know, I'm coming to eat. Right, Coach Emil. So I'm going up in there like, yo, I'm Jewish. All of Jews, yes, sir. All the Jews came, like, you know, I'm in the feds.
Starting point is 00:19:40 They all scamming and shit like that. So they all run over. They go, yo, you Jewish? I was like, yeah, I'm Jewish. They was like, the crazy shit is about a weekend and the real leader of the Jews is like, Like, yo, man, we know you ain't Jewish, man. I said, yo, I heard the food is better.
Starting point is 00:19:56 This shit got a fucked up here. Like, I'm going to try to Puerto Rican route, the Cuban route over here. Yeah, yeah. But, um, so you turn a negative. To a positive. Into a positive. That we just got to fix city hook. Oh, he got the mayor on your line.
Starting point is 00:20:12 So he got to work with him. You got to work with him. Because it's like, it's like, only judge a motherfucker from his bad. I mean, I be trying to show him, you feel me? Because they don't want to keep doing bad. You feel me? Obviously, I'm trying to change my life. I'm trying to change the people's lives around me.
Starting point is 00:20:26 So I want to do good. I want to do everything right. For me, I don't, ain't nobody going to sit there and tell me that it's like little shit don't bother me no more. That you still had me get mad and want to do sons and mine. Now I'm not to play the movie out. I can see the movie happen before it even happened. I know what's going to happen if it's...
Starting point is 00:20:40 You know what I'm saying? Or just like, you know what I can see it happening without even doing it nowadays. You know what I'm saying? Let me tell you something. I got an uncle, right? Rest of peace, my uncle Jabal. And I'm not trying to offend nobody in the fan. Jabu?
Starting point is 00:20:54 My uncle Jabu. Top two, top three rat hunters. They invented the gang rat hunters in jail. He invented it. This guy's dangerous. Any nigga, you know upstate, all those guys we talk about?
Starting point is 00:21:07 Well, they know Jabu. He did 29 years. Jabu was a terrible guy in there, right? So he was in jail since I was a baby. He comes on. I asked him, I say, What's the one thing you could teach me? about jail.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Just one thing that you could teach me about the... He said, listen, I'm going to tell you, every inmate in there, the biggest mistake everybody ever did was be impulsive. Your brother got in the argument.
Starting point is 00:21:39 You pop off, you shoot them in front of everybody brought daylight, now you're doing 25 years. Yeah. Somebody messed with your girls. Whatever the case, you jump. He said, the best thing you could do sit back and analyze. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:52 See if you really could you, you ever been really pissed off And a week later, it don't really bother you. Right. But that first week, you might jump out the window like, fuck that. Come a couple of days later, you feel a little bit different, you know. So he told me being impulsive is the biggest mistake anybody could do. You know, you feel like you're invincible when you young. Trust me, I felt like I was invincible.
Starting point is 00:22:20 boom. The youth father control, bro. It's like, even like my nephew, you know what I'm saying? He's a little, little tough kid, you feel me? And he'd be on his, he be on. That's hard to admit. Yeah, he'd be on his bullshit sometimes, and I'll be having to check him because there's no need for you to be on your bullshit. So he was getting at it with a young boy in the hood.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So come to find out the young boy, his father is my man, you feel me? So they're from two different hoods, but his father, like my man. So I had to tell him, like, you know who you even beefing with? Like, you were, you ready to do something? I said this boy, you know, you beefing with? He's like, nah, da, no. I'm like, you don't even know this, nigga. His father rolled for your pops, man.
Starting point is 00:22:56 You know what I mean? His pops got, that's my brother who got killed. This is his son. You know, I take care of him. I'm like, you gotta go do son of this, nigga. You don't even know. He rolled for your father, man. He put him pain for your father, man.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Major, major, major, you don't give that. You don't get that. If any's worse, y'all could pull up. I could go grab, you could grab him. I could get it off your chest like that. They don't got to go to guns. I don't got nowhere further than that. These Y-Ns don't be thinking like that.
Starting point is 00:23:17 They think, oh, he dissed me, or he played me, all that shit. And I know the feeling because I was one of them. So I can't even, so that's why I be like, you could learn for me because I used to be who you are today. And I was way worse than that. You know what I mean? Way worse than that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:31 You're trying to live up to my shit. Y' ain't even nowhere close. So I understand where it could go. So you ain't got to touch the stove. See it's how you've seen me burn my motherfuckercukes. I wish I had somebody that I could have grew and learn from. My old heads were telling me to go. My old has been telling me to eat.
Starting point is 00:23:45 My old has been telling me to move out. You know what I'm the biggest problem we got. Yeah. Right? This is a learning process, guy. This is the wrong podcast episode you thought you was going to get. But some of you need to hear this. The biggest problem we got is the old heads.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Who are nothing? They're bums. They have shit. They're bums. Anybody who's a career criminal, at least be a career criminal, caked up. But if you ain't got no money, you're a career criminal, you this and that, and you telling the youth, you making the youth do shit for you,
Starting point is 00:24:23 you got them brainwashed, this and that, that's the biggest cancer in America. I'm talking about Compton, New York, Jersey, Atlanta, whatever it case may be, when the old has got these young kids brainwashed and manipulated to do their dirty work for it. Right, right. There's a lot of that. It's a lot of that. No, it is that, right? And nobody talks about that.
Starting point is 00:24:48 But that's just the truth. The old answer, you're saying that your time, the old answer is like, yeah, go, whatever the case may be. But that's not what we should be doing. Yeah, that's who used to get the guns from the old heads back in the day. Nowadays, O'Heds get the guns from the young necks. It's flipping. I know what they go, oh head they can still go pull out his little 38. Now, that young boy go pull out a drake, a glock with a drummer.
Starting point is 00:25:13 on it. I don't know if I'm delusional. It's crazy. But I've seen some shootouts where niggins was busting out that Tony Montana guns. You seen that shootout in Philly that day? Oh yeah, it was crazy. Everybody's in the fucking porch. Philly gets busy like that. Philly gets busy like that.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Oh my God. You seen that shit? The motherfucker kept running over. In Philly, they shoot the shit on you. And the guy's shooting looking at the can. I know he's in jail forever. The guy from Philadelphia. He's looking at the camera shooting. He's done.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Looking at the camera. You know, when you clip this, you go find that fucking clip. He in the front shooting, but looking at the shit, he's done. Oh, shit. Listen, guys, can't nobody do shit?
Starting point is 00:25:59 Get away with shit. Look at the guy who shot up the school of it. God bless. Brown. They only had him from the back. They can't really think. I thought he was black.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Today, they just released another film. It's a white guy with a beard They got him He's going down Like it's just too many ring things Too many cameras Too many this Tell me that
Starting point is 00:26:23 Like right now If you pop off Just know you're going to jail Like just If you get caught on Campbell Or if you look at it No no you're in Camber bro You are in Cambo
Starting point is 00:26:35 They killed the kid What's his name? Julio Fulio The fucking car was the camera The Tesla shit got cameras They're like, okay, Johnny B. They even locked the chickup. She was there.
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Starting point is 00:29:48 And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
Starting point is 00:29:58 We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?
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Starting point is 00:30:51 and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the
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Starting point is 00:33:23 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But all you had to do back in the day to get yourself a great lawyer. Because believe it or not, it's your life on the line. But other than you going to jail, the whole shit is theater. It's like Hamilton. Their lawyer against your lawyer.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Right. Your lawyer talking that shit, he's movie this and this. That you might come the fuck home. Right, you might. Not with the camera no more. And they go, oh, okay. And then you could be the case on camera nowadays, too, though, because they got the AI shit.
Starting point is 00:33:59 So it's like, was that me? You know what I'm saying? You got an AI coming into effect. It's going to, it's going to. AI going to fuck up the police shit, vocally and all that too. That thing is in jail. Why is the AI already? They made them say shit.
Starting point is 00:34:13 They didn't say. They did think about it. You know, that AI shit, a whole... You were talking about that 18-100, man. You fuck her with it? Yeah, we're fucking with it. I had him on that shit, though. That man was...
Starting point is 00:34:26 He was gone. Put me up. Turn me at him for the repo. Let's turn on. You want the red one on the white phone, baby? We got it all, Cristolino. That's the one he was fucking with. Let me fuck with that one.
Starting point is 00:34:37 That's the shit. He was fucking. Now you're gonna... This shit is a truth serum. 18-Rop. Yeah, I am. But I'm saying, that one got big. so it must be good.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Look. He's like, he's like, he's looking at the less of the bottle half in. Yeah. I mean, that got to be the one that's it. That's the one. I was Jado. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:54 The other day we had Tony Yeo and murder on here and Jado was going. He had that 1800. Yeah. What? That man was a loser. He had the fluidity. That I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:35:07 It's a good. It was a good day. I call kids banged up a few stuff. Yeah. Kids be banged up. But when he banged up, he's like smooth. Yo, right? He ain't loud.
Starting point is 00:35:20 No, I end up anywhere. Yeah? So, fat, no. I end up in your house, me. Like, I'm the worst. I'm the best. Look, I don't really drink, but when I drink, I never had a bad time in my life.
Starting point is 00:35:35 So back in the days when I'm out drinking, I end up in house parties. I'm not supposed to be there. Like, yo, Fat Joe. Seek the kingdom. Seek the kingdom. kidding them. I'm the nigga's house party's like,
Starting point is 00:35:46 he drinking. They're like, yo, nah, that shit when you drink, never had a bad time of your life. No, I never had like a, like,
Starting point is 00:35:53 you know how you have a bad reaction? Yeah. I'm a fun drunk. Wow. I guess have fun, tell jokes. The biggest problem, if I'm on the street,
Starting point is 00:36:05 I'm going to where I'm not supposed to go. With Fat Joe would never go sober in his life. He'll be in. He might end up in the, I don't even gamble.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I might end up in the back of a gambler. I'm not supposed to be in these places. Right. I'm up in that motherfucker twisted. Yo, you gotta stop, man. You got 18-100. They trying to get me on the sauce. I'm already a bad.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Toast the real. Toast to the real. 18-100. We're late. That's right. You going to do a tour for this project? Yeah, yeah. I'm playing a tour together.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Me and Millie's about to going to a fire. Right, though. Because we're about to drop a prize. I'd probably like February March. No doubt. Some of the things you don't like in hip hop today. Hold on. I did something special for you today.
Starting point is 00:36:52 No. Our family, which you claim as your family, because you grew up over there. They know what the sauce. The sauce. The sauce. You got the mustard sauce. Come beside Johnson.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I train. That's my shit. That's the house that Joe built. Y'all-on. Now, come here. Come here. Sit down. Real quick.
Starting point is 00:37:14 So you're a Johnson or you work for the Johnson? No, I am a Johnson. You are a Johnson. She's dead. You know, how old are you? I'm 32. I've been there longer than you. I'll tell you to the truth.
Starting point is 00:37:27 When everything said and done, it's her. Ruby knows wife? No, me. That's his wife. That's his wife. That's his wife. Now he's a sister. That's a Johnson.
Starting point is 00:37:38 This is Miss Johnson. You're saying something to you. The mother, the dog. Yo, bro, you playing with. me now. You even know who? Your husband knows me since I'm three years off.
Starting point is 00:37:48 This is correct. Yeah. Three years old I've been going to Johnson's fried chicken, the mustard sauce. This is it, huh? She'll bleed mustard?
Starting point is 00:37:59 Man. Where they sell it at? Online. Online. Online with... Johnson's BBQBX.com. Or you can go to Johnson's barbecue on 163rd Street
Starting point is 00:38:11 between 10 and a union. That's my word. I know. That's my fault. Yo, he keeps saying because he knows Groovy Lou. He's like, yo, I'm like, yo, you violate you, man.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Because it's across the street for my house. I don't think you understand. Across the street from my house. My brother used to buy out the whole Johnson. Angel. Angel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:31 It's a legend in Johnson. Yeah, he told me. My brother bought a whole, if it's 30 people there, everybody chicken and mustard. Disney. He loved Johnson's fried chicken. We all do.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Is it true that you own a farm down south? Yes. And so the chicken has always been organic. Everything. We never knew that. Everything was organic. Yep, collard greens fresh every morning. Yams fresh.
Starting point is 00:38:55 From down south. We're from down south. It's in Ackamac, Virginia. That's where my grandmother's from. And then my grandfather, yes. My dad's dad. He's from Sumter, South Carolina. How many years we've been doing this at Johnson?
Starting point is 00:39:09 Since 1954, so I believe that's that one, black on an operator. Thank you. America, you're playing yourself. I beg you to purchase Johnson's mustard sauce. There is no better mustard sauce in America. Now, I've been to spots down south where they've had the similar, the minute I eat it, I'm like, oh, shit. But still, it's like I say at least they stole Johnson's recipe down there.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I go in there and it's, damn, they know about them. Mustas. Everybody don't know about the mustard sauce. This is the mustard sauce of champions right here. Thank you. This is the fucking one. Man, and that's crazy. Now, we have some more bottles out there. No, we need that.
Starting point is 00:40:02 We're going to do that on Christmas. You know, I've been on a diet, keto. I don't understand the doctor. Oh, my God. You know what I was. No, I can't. Listen. I'm skinnier than I ever been in my life.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I swear to God, the doctor said, 242, the doctor said, yo, you're skinnier than you ever, but guess what, buddy? Need you to fast, keto, no carbs, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:29 I say, yo, you know, the doctor like a mechanic. They find something wrong with you every time, but I come up in there, I say, yo,
Starting point is 00:40:37 I'm skinnier than I ever been. He's like, we got to work on it. You got to give me, I don't want to look like a crackhead, though. You know when them guys had that face sunk in and shit like that. Johnson definitely seen some of, oh shit, zombie awards.
Starting point is 00:40:52 You guys can write the book. Teeth missing, all that. Everybody limping. Yo. Shit crazy. You want me to lie to you? It's like, you know, the hood got to take care of themselves. I used to work in my uncle bodega, and they come in for the picnic.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Look, look, look. He reminiscing right now. No pork on his fork. He said, man, let me tell you, so that pig feet. No pork on my fork, no ham in my pan. Y'all got me twisted. I ain't eat pork since I'm about 11 years old. What I'm trying to tell you is that when I worked in my uncle's bodega,
Starting point is 00:41:34 they used to come up in there everybody diabetes, everything. They're coming in there for the pickle, the sausage, the, the, not all the foul shit. They eat all the power. Shit. They're coming in there for that shit. We're like, yo, Mr. Johnson, are you sure you need this? Are you sure you want that?
Starting point is 00:41:53 They be like, yo, man, this is my shit by here. But to each his own bottle of 1800. Shout out to Groovy Loo. He is really connected with it. I was doubting him. He kept telling me he's a Johnson. This is that Groovy Loo's my man. And, yo, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Johnson's fried chicken came through. They got the fried. It's the best. It's the best. There's no way around. There's nowhere. You got food out there? Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:18 You can't do that to me. Because I'll tear the pain off that bathroom. I've been pure a whole week. I've been pure a whole week. Vegeties, no carbs. Man, and I'm like, borderline. Tare the pain off the wall. I eat one of them fried chickens right now, some ribs.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Because let me tell you something. You know when your system been cleansed, my shit is cleansed. Right now, you see me drinking the water. You didn't give me no water, nothing for drinking no water. You got to finish one. What's your name again? Stacia Johnson. Thank you, Stasia.
Starting point is 00:43:01 We love you. The Johnson family. Thank you for everything. It's been a pleasure. We always looked up to your family in our hood. Let me tell you something. Them guys, were they ever from forests? Or they just opened over there.
Starting point is 00:43:19 No, just opened over there. That's crazy. On 160 third. They're from, yeah. Yeah, and then they moved to Mount Vernon. I tell a famous story about not Johnson's, but the ghetto Chinese on the corner. You know, I went to school with the two kids.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Oh, really? We used to make fun of them. They had, like, dirty Chinese kids, people living in their house and all that. above the restaurant. I seen them kids years later, and it was like, you know, everybody that was sleeping on the floor
Starting point is 00:43:49 owns four Chinese restaurants. Wow. So that's how they bring the whole crew in there. They sleep in there. Generation of wealth. The players, 20 people turned into like 80 Chinese ghetto joints. Yeah, and the ghetto Chinese ain't scared. They open up an affidavit.
Starting point is 00:44:08 They open up to Cuba. They don't give up. You go to Haiti. the only shit's standing ghetto Chinese Haitian food that shit go anywhere. They're not scared of nothing. They're not scared of nothing. I used to go to Africa
Starting point is 00:44:23 when the only art has been everywhere in Africa. Like literally Ali Bumayet. And they ain't a hood in Africa that don't got a ghetto Chinese. They're there. They're not scared. They'll go anywhere. My African man is standing.
Starting point is 00:44:42 that, man. Your African men might not been to more African I had two years I thought I had two years I thought that was Listen,
Starting point is 00:44:52 I thought that was How the African ain't been the most You know, I'm like the Doseckis guys I'm a most interesting man in the world But every part of Africa
Starting point is 00:45:06 I've been in Every part Where you from in Africa? I've been to Ghana You know that Ghana, Garbon, Djibouti, anywhere you name, Luanda, Rwanda, Sierra Leone,
Starting point is 00:45:19 Swazis, South Africa, Puerto, Morocco, Nigeria. Wakanda? Uh-uh. Not Wakanda. And Gowna, Uganda, Kenya, Zimbabwe. You're you talking to the wrong.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I've been to Somali. I've been to every hood. I met DaBido at the All-Star game. Man, told me, yo, I've seen you in my village 10 times. Me? You know, me. Man, you crazy, man. I've been in every hood in Africa where they don't have clippers.
Starting point is 00:45:50 They cut your hair with a fucking, they take the razor out of the big shaver, and they line your, come on, you're my man. Am I lying? They line your shit up with the razor from inside the bit, and they cut in my head's 10,000 people watching fat jokes. Are you nuts? I've been in every part of Africa. I remember I went, I came.
Starting point is 00:46:12 back from Africa and went to like Mr. Child or something. I've seen one of our favorite rappers. I don't want to get killed. I don't want to get killed. But this guy always talking about Africa and going back to Africa. He was like, yo, crap, what's up?
Starting point is 00:46:26 Man, you look tired. Where you come from? I said, Africa. He said, shit, I ain't going over there. I said, man, you missed to go back to Africa. Oh, you missed to go back to Africa. You missed to go back to Africa. He was like, yo, I ain't going to.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Say it. Say it. Say it. No, sir. You can't say that. You're talking about the boy. Not that one. Not that.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Now, I ain't talking about God. I ain't talking about God. I'm just telling you there's a famous rapper that he wraps about Africa and all that. And when I seen him, I was like, he was like, yo, where you come from her? I said, Africa. He was like, Africa.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Nika, what you're doing over there? I ain't going over there. I'm saying, yo. And they got the Dysheki on talking about he ain't going there. Let's not throw shots of Garson. I didn't say that, guys. It's all right, but, you know, Mr. Nix.
Starting point is 00:47:19 What's up, baby? Shout out to the Nix fan. I got to take it back. We've started really, really like what Mike Brown is doing. Yeah. You know, I'm a Tibbs guy, so I'm working at the beginning. Because the man wears some bullshit sneakers. I'm going to keep...
Starting point is 00:47:33 Sinable pin T.S. I'm not sneakers. Turn them up. And so I'm looking at him, he got, like, vans on and shit like that. I'm like, yo, you're sneaker games. Feet. I might have to. Give him a bit.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Tibbs used to rock Jeevon, Sheev and all this. This guy, he got some bullshit on. His feet might be different. This shit hurt. You know, this sneaker came? He got a lot of courage to wear them shits. You wear that shit in the wrong hood.
Starting point is 00:48:02 You got a nail in your shit. That's shit. They ain't got the pro-cad shit like that. Oh, my God. That shit out of control. You got a nail it. You shit that you. Sting's strange.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I'm trying to... All right, man. I'm telling... Let's get Mike Brown some good feet. Let's take Mike Brown on those. Shopping for sneakers? Yeah, let's go. No, we got to do it.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to take Mike Brown shopping for sneakers, man. Joe hit us up. What you recommend? What do you think he need on his feet? Anything he's going to wear his shit like this. So we got to get him comfy shit. Yo, his shit like this.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Tires is low. Yo. Tires is low. You're going to take Mike Brown. You know, that's it. No pro. Tires is low. He's going to take a shopping with his car.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I brought all my cars up from Miami. Tires is low. I can't even drive in New York. All them shit is like this. If I hit one bump, I'm done. Like, you know, it got me started. Oh, shit, A.T. 100.
Starting point is 00:49:02 1800. 8,00. Everybody's drinking that all day today, you know. Let me tell you something. It could work wonders for JD Kiss. Jada Kiss. He, he, he, he, on that 1800.
Starting point is 00:49:13 He's gone. He's going. I like that. Sometimes he wants to come in here quiet, shy, shit like that. 1800? The man on that shit talking that shit.
Starting point is 00:49:27 And so, but I was asking the question that we never got answered. What do you don't like that's acceptable in hip-hop today? It probably ain't how you was taught in hip-hop
Starting point is 00:49:41 coming up. I always hear him saying niggas don't want to rap with them. It's hard to, they're giving them the running around. There's a lot of funny money. You did that. You did that.
Starting point is 00:49:53 That's crazy. I get off. Y'all went through that same shit. And it's like, I seen, I seen it. He did that to me my own career. You got mad features for me. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:04 But, see, we came from the time when you, it was no emailing for none of that. Right, right. He couldn't. We had to meet up. even a way to send a song. You have to go to the studio to do. You know that.
Starting point is 00:50:17 That helps us now with this Tetris way of recording. Yeah, that's definitely a problem right there. For me, it was like, people be, like, scared to getting that booth. I don't know. It was like, but I think I always thought it was about, like, about, like, swapping fans with this shit.
Starting point is 00:50:30 You feel me? As I'm trying to grow as I'm trying to... It's all about collaboration. Don't let nobody lie. I want to get loan over here and all of that shit. I did some, don't get me wrong. I did some big features that I'm blessed and honored for. That's one.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And another thing is just that. in a rap game, they just be allowing like they allow motherfuckers to get away with fuck shit that ain't supposed to be okay, man, like the rat and shit the corny shit, like once you're done, you're done, it's like, you know what I mean? And I understand we in the world where
Starting point is 00:50:55 everybody flag for the excepting the rats. Yeah, yeah, flag on the play. Let's do that. No, that's probably the one change of events I'd never seen coming. Yeah, because that shit was like, that used to push you
Starting point is 00:51:11 the industry back in the day. You had to stand on that shit. You had to have a strong camp. You had to, now it's like a motherfucker. If you call a motherfucker that's a rat and he, you know he a rat, his man going up pole on you. Like, you feel me? Like, you about to kill a real nigga for
Starting point is 00:51:25 saying the obvious. You know what? Y'all niggas really, I'm like ready to kill a real nigga for staying at this nigga a rat. You feel me? I'm going to tell you some crazy shit, right? So I know a guy his name is legendary. That's New York. No, I'm just trying to take you.
Starting point is 00:51:41 You know, you get to stop. He's a legend. He's a legend. Took 10 years, took 15 years. Like, this guy bussing his gun in jail, all you could imagine. There's nothing wrong you can say about. Been in there with the Lions, the Titans. So one day I see him in recent times,
Starting point is 00:52:01 and he's standing next to this dude that ratted on 46 dudes. The whole car. This is one of the biggest rats in the Bronx history. I see yo, he got the bag, I got to hold him down. I know he a rat. But, you know, I was like, like, how you did that's going to play out? That's crazy. So my science behind it, right?
Starting point is 00:52:23 Because some people say, yo, he ain't rat on me or whatever. My science behind it is this. As much as you love the guy, if he just told him on 47 guys, if anything go wrong, if we got to pound somebody out of front of the building, he's telling him, how do you feel? feel safe with being with this guy knowing how the game could just change on you at any moment
Starting point is 00:52:46 and you got the guy you done. Yeah. He's going to tell. Right. And so that's my biggest, if you think you could trust the rat guy, when he's all setting done, he gets in that interrogation. He's telling he might be telling on the way he did.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Yeah, he's going to definitely tell. We told once he and told twice. We fold once in four twice. I won't say who. You want me Say who? So I think people were questionable, even myself, about hearing rumors about R. Kelly, but he made the greatest music ever. Indeed.
Starting point is 00:53:23 So everybody was like, he can't do it or he ain't do it. And he's just, while he's in this controversy, he keeps dropping. Move your body, like to stay number one, number one, number one, number one. And everybody's like, not looking at it. Because they're like, yo, he got the greatest music. Nowadays, you got a guy that might have told they got the hottest music and they don't give a fuck. They're like sold out arena.
Starting point is 00:53:50 We don't care. The man got the hottest music. We don't care. Right. Music didn't tell. Yeah, but what I think is the music being hot. Overpowers them. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:02 It overpowers. Yeah. Whatever, you know. And then be a guy like me and you sound dinosaur. We almost playing ourselves like, yo, we ain't with this rat shit. Yo, they're looking at you now. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:54:15 That's because a lot of people never been told on. Never, never been in that situation where they had the time. You feel me? So people don't understand that shit. You've never been told on, you can't relate. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.
Starting point is 00:54:32 What's the news, nice? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to us. We're the first people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Pretty. yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say,
Starting point is 00:55:11 Hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Dave.
Starting point is 00:55:41 and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-heart radio app,
Starting point is 00:55:55 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting the.
Starting point is 00:56:11 through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:56:50 The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Genshin win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me.
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Starting point is 00:57:43 It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app,
Starting point is 00:58:05 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm not going to tell a story till a story turns out. Okay, no, no, I'm going to tell you this story. But I'm not going to tell the name to somebody comes out after this and just says, he chose talking about, not this one, right? Because they'll, the cat, meaning, you want to throw 700 flowers for all of shit. The whole, they'll start throwing it. This, there's no way to believe me if I say the name.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Okay, there's no way. You wouldn't believe, Fat Joe. If you heard he's real distance that. You're like, yo, this nipper, I'm at a show. It's around this time. It's a Christmas show. Corporate.
Starting point is 00:58:50 We get the freest bag in the world. I'm only there with Rich. Uncle Dan, I don't even have my DJ. I'm on my way to the stage. Right? I'm behind stages. Dark as hell. Hammerstein Borough.
Starting point is 00:59:03 They introduced me, so I got to go out. When they do that, somebody appears. Mm-hmm. It gives me their hand. I'll shake people hand in the airport, there everybody. I'm fat Joe. I'm still a little.
Starting point is 00:59:14 So I said, what's up? So he says, yo, you know who I am? They already introduced me. The music's going. Lean back is on.
Starting point is 00:59:23 It was only like two songs. I said, nah, he said, yo, I'm such and such. When I looked at him, I said, holy shit. Now, this guy's beyond the killer.
Starting point is 00:59:37 He was extorting every rapper on earth. He was extorting the streets. He was doing whatever. He was a monster out here. Legend of all legends. Right. I couldn't wait to get off that stage.
Starting point is 00:59:51 I ran back to this dude. I couldn't believe you were standing there. I said, now look at me, you rat, motherfucking bastard. Piece of shit, cock. Sucker bitch, your mother shit on her face, nigga. You ever in your fucking life? Cause, it just happened.
Starting point is 01:00:08 I don't know what the dynamic is. Maynardom bumped into Troy Ave. Troy, I've had a baby in this thing front of 10,000 people. I hear they had problems, but, you know, said, what's up? I wouldn't have done that, right? But said, what's up?
Starting point is 01:00:23 They caught that bitch in 4K. A white person had to catch that fucking footage right there. That wasn't no-hood shit. And it's everywhere. So I was scared this nigga said what's up to me. And he had a cameraman somewhere because they said he was running down on anybody who was the realist in New York.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And they were, no, but my bag, son. I would have never talked about you. Oh, this thing. I'll tell you, I'll give you a clue. My man Wally World told him hood plays. The man went to the middle of the hood play. He's a rat, a war rat. And told all the OGs we ever seen in Fed Magazine and all of them.
Starting point is 01:01:01 He was like, yo, who got a problem? Who won it? Everybody was like, Mom's the word. No. But what I'm saying to you is, Jesus Christ. Not only did I. scream on this killer
Starting point is 01:01:14 as I walked away this could have been a mistake it was a girl there she's goochie down and all that I turned back around because I see Dave E's face you were part of this story you don't even know it oh listen
Starting point is 01:01:30 no no listen you're part of it there I don't fucking part of this story because you was complaining about the nigga in the back of my store all of y'all kept telling me you know this dude's out here moving like This, this, that. This niggas crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I'm just saying you don't even know who I'm talking about. Let me talk to the people. Whether he's talking about, I was complaining about anybody for years. What I'm saying, no, what I'm saying is this guy, this guy was shaking everybody. I know. Right? So he was shaking everybody down. So Rass is dating.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I'm talking about from the biggest of this. So you're telling him to. No, he wasn't in the story. Say that again. You were telling kill. You were telling kill. You're the most dangerous person in the world. So I go and I see Davey's tell me something.
Starting point is 01:02:22 But when I'm walking away. No. So I turn back around and I go right back up to this guy again. Shit, right. He's looking. They will never believe this. That's why I can't say the name. He's looking down.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I pick his chin up. He said, look me in the high, nigga. Yeah, yeah. You look me in the high, nigger. You know what this is. I'm not dumb. I'm not these niggins. You know it.
Starting point is 01:02:51 He knew I put in work for real. He looked at my eyes. First time I realized somebody, you look at the crazy guy in the eyes, their eyes are opened up and they said, holy shit, this man puts in that work. He knew when he said, phone my lap.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Phone rang off. Everybody was calling me like, yo, I heard this, this, this. I was like, yeah, it is. You know, the only person I won was my man who be in that neighborhood. I was like, yo, you know, I had to scream on. I knew what was going to happen, right?
Starting point is 01:03:21 Because no disrespect, the game been using me. The rap game has been using me for so many years. Every rapper get beef. I inherit a beef. I got a this, this, this. They've been using me so much. So when these guys kept telling me and I've been seeing this, I knew the buck stops here.
Starting point is 01:03:42 there's a reason why it was so beautiful for me to stop the beef with 50 cents because I knew the buck stops here I knew where it was going to go live in action directed everybody was like yo let's hope they bump into each other because these guys too
Starting point is 01:03:58 they ain't gonna go right but you know that's a form of manipulation that's a form of using you know you adjust the guy in the beef that you know oh they're gone this guy playing a different game
Starting point is 01:04:12 be moving you like a piece. Yeah. I was used as a young kid in this industry, as a dumb, impulsive jumping out, this, this, this,
Starting point is 01:04:22 I was used by other rappers. Who wouldn't put in that work and they were like, yo, Joe, you know, you know, this,
Starting point is 01:04:30 this, and I, well, I knew with this guy, I had nothing to do with this guy. Right. I had no beef with him. I had no problem.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I never met this guy before. I never, this, I fucking, knew. It was going to be Fat Joe who was going to see this guy and I didn't give a fuck if it was in Madison Square Garden
Starting point is 01:04:50 the streets. That was going to be the same outcome. 10,000 cameras. So I'm looking, I'm hoping somebody else bump into this dude that's going to jump out. But, you know, that's how the game go, man. But listen, let me tell you something. Yeah, that's something that bothers me
Starting point is 01:05:06 in hip-hop. It ain't my problem. Huh? That is hip-hop. We're talking about You'll see Yeah for real though This shit going viral Without a name, bro
Starting point is 01:05:18 They know what I'm talking about Bro, this ain't This ain't a regular d'agler You know what I'm saying But there's some stories You can't tell people Because they say I'm cat You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:05:30 You can't tell anybody Anything You got the power then To just say it Leave you now They believe me now You think so I'm not cat like ya
Starting point is 01:05:41 No. Now, but this one I see... This particular story, I've been waiting for somebody to say it other than me. I've been falling back like, I, somebody's going to say the story. And I'm the man for a job. Huh?
Starting point is 01:05:56 Nobody was there. There was a girl there and she was fucking... I wish I would have seen her faith. That's the biggest mistake. If there's ever been a mistake to haunt me and beef in my life, is all systems go one way. And I look around at this surroundings. Like somebody funded on my body.
Starting point is 01:06:11 brother, I was looking at what, for him all day. I seen him. I said, pussy, pull over. Pull over, pussy. Pull over. I jump out. He jumped out. He acted extra tough.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I don't know why. We start fighting immediately. When I turned around, there was like a thousand guys with this guy. I didn't look at the other 30 trucks. So when you get that tunnel vision, the troop is, there's a girl who's just, the witness to this that was Gucci down to the socks from the jacket to the shoes
Starting point is 01:06:47 to the boots to the this. She was there. Right on. She was a witness. Who is it? I don't know who she is, but you're going to hear after this episode they're going to tell you because some people know.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Some people know. Yeah, they know. But you know, it's like, but I got tired of that. I've been tired of like people using me to do certain things and jump out the window and this and this that because I know there's certain things,
Starting point is 01:07:13 I'm not going to tolerate in no way, shape, or form. But, you know, and then I think of it was almost a time travel. Right? So when the guy shakes my hand and I realize who he is, all I see is faces of all my friends
Starting point is 01:07:30 that got 40 years, 30 years, 30 years, 20 years, 10 years, 15 years, this, this, this, this, immediately. When he say, yo, I'm such and such. I said, this pussy put everybody in jail. Like that you gotta be kidding me My best friend doing 46 That's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:07:46 That's what it's about You can't be a hypocrite in this shit You can't be You gotta stand on what you stand on Because it's like I'm gonna apply the same pressure To whoever I'm not gonna change my tone
Starting point is 01:07:55 For no man you for me If I feel like you a fuck nigga I'm gonna pull you on that Especially if I do it Especially if I thought you was a real nigga At first Because I'm thinking you my con I'm bringing you in this world
Starting point is 01:08:05 Like I fuck with you This game gets tricky Yeah so if I feel like I fuck with you I'm like oh I ain't solid I rock with that nigga But the same The same way, the same way I'm treating you like my brother. I'm going to treat you like my enemy once I find out you did something that
Starting point is 01:08:16 ain't a part of our movement or what we stand for. You feel me? Like, I honor y'all, y'all, y'all the big bros of this shit, you know what? If I hear some shit like, yo, oh, what? Kiss when I was bad. Oh, kiss when I was bad. You feel me? Also, let's be clear about that.
Starting point is 01:08:29 That's not going to say the same shit. Got to go to me, too, though. Hold up. Let's not go kiss when out bad. You also have to see who the messenger is. Of course. No, because what's going on now? whether he cheated on her or this and this and that.
Starting point is 01:08:46 The people who be talking to shit, people they disgrunt through employees, fake former friends that got cut off. You know what this is to even be with you? For you to cut somebody off, it's lights out. For him, every day whether he wants to deny,
Starting point is 01:09:04 he's performing for Alan Arvison's birthday, flash shit, this. That's a different lifestyle. You're pulling up in Miami, we're going to Calhid's party. He's walking through this. That's a life. When you take one of them guys that go,
Starting point is 01:09:17 lights out, baby, it's over. That Yonkers Community Center ain't hitting like DJ Callet's 50th year birthday. No, now there's no more goals gym. You got to work out of St. Barry's gym. It's a whole different thing. So you don't realize that when people
Starting point is 01:09:35 who we once had love for, they fuck up to the point of where And maybe they just, whatever the case may be, those be the guys, the messages of that bad news. A lot of times you can't really take them as credible. Of course now. You got to get your car fax all the time. You can't just, as a real nigga,
Starting point is 01:09:53 you got to do your homework on whatever anybody telling you. As soon as you got real nigga as a real individual, you do your homework on whatever. Because I'll be saying shit, it'd be like, especially with this Instagram shit. It's like, it'd be like, oh shit. Yeah, Instagram is a lot. Oh shit, some new shit about such and such and this.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Who's that girl? Who's that guy? Yeah. Ivan Rodriguez says that this, he never got, like, who the fuck are you? Right. So all of a sudden, the gossip of the week is somebody we never heard in our life, who might be the biggest piece of shit, scumbag in the world, says something about somebody we've been loving for 20 years.
Starting point is 01:10:35 And all of a sudden, that's not. And it gave him a voice to talk. They gave him a whole platform. for them to talk and post it, everything. And it's like, and then start analyzing the shit, yo, what Ivan's true. What I've been said,
Starting point is 01:10:48 what I even said was your social security number. Yo, my man, well, at least that I've been able to see through that. Right. The normal public ain't able to see through that because they keep running the same play. Yeah. It was a DVD back in the days. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:04 It was like snitches or whatever, right? Pistol Pete was on there, a bunch of rappers. And every rapper went, on there and it was like, snitches get stitches. If he snitch, you kill him. If you just sit, do, that. Every rapper. I went in there and said, please don't do the crime. If you do the crime,
Starting point is 01:11:21 you do the time. Don't cross the street if it ain't green. Don't drive the car if you ain't got a license. And that's just the way it go. You know within yourself, if you could do the time or you can't. Don't be pretending. I knew what Dominican do. This dude
Starting point is 01:11:36 was fucking, he had a Lamborghini as long as I knew him. popping bottles every single night. They say he got caught the minute they took him in the fest. He was like, what I doing here, Poppy? What am I doing here, Poppy? Oh, you're saying? He told on the whole Dominicans.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Yeah. Yo. But he had Lamborghinis and Ferraris his whole life. I've been seeing him in the clubs. Yo, popping 10,000 bottles. They said the second he went on my friend. What are we doing? That'd be a street nigger plan B.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Like how you give a girl pin B, they plan B is I. I got some for you, bigs. What am I doing it? Get out of jail free. No, no, but I'm saying some people hustle so long. Like, you know, when you go, we go down to El Chapo, they say the only thing you could do is plant poppies. There is no other job.
Starting point is 01:12:30 There's nothing else. When you wake up and you a kid 10 years old, they put you on the field of plant. You could be doing coffee. You could be doing cocaine. That is the trade Do coffee Do Kis Cafe
Starting point is 01:12:43 KISS Cafe You know How's the sales The Kiss Cafe Since this joint been going on Because I've been watching The other day I binged the Joan Jeter
Starting point is 01:12:51 And I noticed I've been promoting More than you The Kist Cafe It's doing good I think So Pops So Pops
Starting point is 01:12:59 He owes me a half of 1% Good man Kiss Cafe Kiss Cafe Coffee Dotcom Get you some some ground hole
Starting point is 01:13:11 get you see K cups I mean best coffee out there man I'd be 53 if I drink a 53 year old cup of coffee Well you can drink a 42 year old cup of coffee Yeah rewind the time number one all over You know what I'm saying if you need to You need to get your shit glazed up
Starting point is 01:13:30 Looking like a motherfucking movie Then you get that rewinded time CVS Sally's Stop and Shopping We out in Canada now. So we expand it. Yeah, we went over the border. So we out there, you got some new music, huh?
Starting point is 01:13:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. My new album out going crazy, man. Every day, June 30, a 10-year anniversary. Shit going crazy right now. We're going to hear something. Let's hear something. Let's hear one. I'm a catalog rapper, man.
Starting point is 01:13:54 I ain't no TikTok rapper, man. I'm that nigga you got. From the cloth. Yeah, he do. He rap, for real. You know. You're carving, you mob out. You feel of me?
Starting point is 01:14:02 No gimmicks. Every day in a party. No sound effects. You got that pain. Yeah, that real pain. Real shit. this track up for us. What are we about to hear? Oh, this right here is called Look Through My Eyes.
Starting point is 01:14:12 I'm paying homage to DMX, of course. You know what? The dog. This is birthday to day, too. Happy birthday to the dog. The perfect segue. Double nickel. I'm paying homage. I got the X-Lo going on and that shit. Of course, with everything that I've built off, but X is the, uh, is in my top five.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Appreciate that, love. Appreciate that. And the dog forever. Let's go. Let's get it. Frank it. Frankie cock. Frankie Crocod. No quiddity Take a look through my eyes
Starting point is 01:14:45 See what I see Do as I do Be who I be Walking my shoes You're gonna hurt your feet And get cold outside You gotta keep no I'm burning in hell
Starting point is 01:14:55 But don't deserve to be A pit I don't even know If I murder me Why Because they hurt of me To I'm in their house Like a burglary
Starting point is 01:15:02 Now they're buying A family and surgery Why Face shots from a pound You ever seen a nigga Soul lift off from the ground Niggas whish around About me scared to say it out
Starting point is 01:15:11 And no, I put a nigga body where it can never be found. That snitch and shit, it was never allowed. Put a rat on a sticky trap, leave him stuck to the ground. Like, what are you telling him now? If you wasn't built for this shit, like, why you're coming around? Like, why you around? I remember collect cold, mama, this shit, son. I'm locked up again for another gun.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Last week, the cops was out the house. I'm on a run. Can't complain about the game. I take it how I come. On top of that be ambition by another bitch. Thank you to myself like, damn, I need another bitch. Bro snitched on some other shit Now I can't fuck with nobody's like I'm sell a bitch
Starting point is 01:15:46 Pen in the fields is a shit I'm a veteran devil's in the offer for my soul I ain't selling it Nica try I'm up in the pole with no hesitance Wasn't here when I was in the cold You irrelevant Don't matter to me I go Zay night
Starting point is 01:15:58 The Knicks talk to me I got a shit shit shit If you get life you got a wife You're gonna be hard to reach Probably won't win they fight But you got hard at least Bit you bad bitch you ain't bad at indirect Deposit won't even check on me but one
Starting point is 01:16:11 Check my pockets. Hope they never find that graveyard that's in my closet. If that day ever come, then I'm taking hostage. On my day off, I'm Craig playing with them boxers. Coach threw me off the team, found it in my locker. I was only 16 playing with a chopper. You know, that boy was a shooter for he made the roster. Me a mush in a trap, 24-7.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Make a try me, it's going down like 9-11. Never seen a head shot with a 5-7? No rats around me, no I won't let him. Free wreck, free K, free beat it. Yeah, bro, this blue trout with a pity. Fet's want me bad to him and I can be me. I go see the TV. Take a look through my eyes.
Starting point is 01:16:49 See what I see. Yeah. Do as I do Walk in my shoes you gonna hurt your feet Yeah Yeah They get cold and you're cold and you're like keep like keep you Don't what you know what you're better eat it
Starting point is 01:17:19 It's that pain man That's right. East Coast shit. I know how we rockin, man. Hey. Hell yeah. Trial State Monsters, man. I know what we're into.
Starting point is 01:17:36 This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for Albi. Hey, guys. It's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
Starting point is 01:17:55 I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
Starting point is 01:18:05 We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Me and hilarious guests from Bob. Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 01:18:50 or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. And nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where SportsSlice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:19:22 And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling. the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on, a Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman. Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud. But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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