The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - BEST OF Fat Joe & Jadakiss 2025: Clipse, Cardi B, 85 South, Nelly & Ashanti, Aries Spears & MORE

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

YO YO YOOO! It's been a legendary first year of the Joe and Jada podcast, and this Christmas we're looking back at some of 2025's classic moments from Fat Joe and Jadakiss, along with their always leg...endary, always iconic guests including Clipse's Pusha T and Malice, Cardi B, 85 South, Aries Spears, Allen Iverson, Common, Ne-Yo, and many more! 2:30 - "I miss my Uncle Georgia" 6:00 - Ne-Yo explains his 4-girlfriend situation 12:30 - Cardi B reacts to Ne-Yo's 4-girlfriend situation 17:00 - Clipse on the making of 'Let God Sort Em Out' 32:00 - 85 South can't believe Jada is bald by choice 37:00 - Joe & Jada tell wild Big Pun & DMX stories 43:00 - Allen Iverson's mother joins the couch 48:00 - Nelly & Ashanti's 50 Cent story 1:01:00 - Common confirms Fat Joe saved his life 1:08:00 - Fat Joe's legendary jail stories 1:25:00 - Joe & Jada on being in the studio with Biggie & Jay-Z 1:37:00 - Lil Wayne bodied EVERYONE on "We Takin' Over" 1:42:00 - Aries Spears reacts to Joe's crazy OJ Simpson story 1:51:00 - Jada tells Yayo & Murda about Biggie's '97 L.A. trip 2:00:00 - Joe & Jada's top 5 hip hop songs 2:15:00 - N.O.R.E. on his tense conversation with Pusha T 2:22:00 - Jermaine Dupri on writing "Confessions" for Usher 2:28:00 - Fat Joe isn't capping about the smallest man in the world [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:49 What's up, boss? They're looking like we made him a steak. We didn't recruit this thing. He's the Hong Kong. He was like Shadour. They let him go. They let him. go.
Starting point is 00:03:13 But Biggie Smalls to this day, his flows, his cadence. You know I help get the song together with him and Bone Thugs in Harmony. That's another album. Look up the first Bone Thugs in Harmony first album. So 30 million records.
Starting point is 00:03:31 He's 1999. For the love of money, got to get that money, baby. Money, baby. Gotta get that money, baby. Let me tell you some, boy, I miss my Uncle George. Call him George. Miss my Uncle George.
Starting point is 00:03:51 It's Uncle Charles. It's Uncle Charles. He's called him Uncle George. I miss my Uncle George. You at least. Yo. Uncle George. Uncle George.
Starting point is 00:04:11 You know, you know, you listen. You know how you go to the AA meeting and be like, hi, I'm Joe. I'm an alcoholic. He's like, hi, I'm fat Joe. I'm a fuck up. I'm a bug out. I change all the words. That's why we're going to have a problem, Rich.
Starting point is 00:04:29 We put it back. Rich do it back to it. I can't even memorize my own rhymes. So imagine memorizing your rhymes to somebody else's one. I fuck everybody's shit up. But I got that bone and Biggie done. Biggie hit me up. said, Joe, I want to rock with your man's.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I know they're your man's. We're on the same label. I'm hanging out with them every day. Then you had a relationship with Bob. I had to really, really convinced them. And I know to this day they're happy. I convinced them. Steve Lobel brought them to the studio.
Starting point is 00:05:02 The rest is history. But that boning, biggie, bigie. And nobody in New York was thinking about, I'm dangerous. Hey, too many can bang with us. Sing up. We know angeled us. Nitorious.
Starting point is 00:05:13 so-called beef with you know who this. Nobody was thinking about that flow at that time. When he did it, it was like, you know, big with somebody that's like you. I mean, damn, man, we got a big this thing. I'll invite over this thing. I actually salute them, man. Biggie was like you in the very way of,
Starting point is 00:05:37 you never said a whack verse. So every time Biggie could rhyme on 112. He could rhyme on fucking, a girl's TLC shit, whatever. So ain't I had to commercial. It ain't not anything that we would listen to him. We would listen to the new verse and be like, damn, Biggie did it again.
Starting point is 00:05:55 He was super nice. He did this and this and that. It was crazy. You know what I'm saying? B-I-G that ready to die, that shit to this day is one of my favorite. You know what I mean? From the slave shit's for the same life in the two vault.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yo, Biggie? I have my homie's total busher shit. Every record. It wasn't just total. I don't know if it was a fan, but as a rapper, every verse, similar to you,
Starting point is 00:06:24 every verse Biggie ever spit. We were analyzed it immediately and be like, yo, he did a song with Total. You know, everything, you'd be like, damn, you body that shit again. It's not easy to body every single verse.
Starting point is 00:06:42 You know, JD Kiss, you know, He's really good at that. You know what I'm saying? We're listening for every verse. Like, oh shit, Jane is going to spit that shit right now. Yo, Neil, I got to keep it real with you right, because lately being that we're podcasters now, is crazy because all the artists, not you,
Starting point is 00:07:06 but all the artists seem to come in here and don't want to talk about what everybody want to hear them talk about out there. You got four wives. Yes, indeed. What kind of pressure? Do you buy, is it like Muslim? Do you got to buy the same bag for the same? Like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:07:26 Mine is mine. You definitely got to have a bag to have four wives. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, well, okay. There's a mindset that the woman has to have in order to be able to share men. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's literally got to, she literally got to think a different way. If you got four women that want burking bags, you got the wrong four.
Starting point is 00:07:48 So they got a different mentality. It's community, it's family. It's like everybody doing something. It's like a village where everybody do something. Everybody got a job. You know what I mean? If you're the only person taking care of everything you're doing them, that's not how I'm supposed to go.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Everybody's supposed to kind of pitch in together. Like I have seven kids on my own. You know, one of them got a daughter. A little bit got two kids. And it's like, okay. so I don't have seven kids. I got nine kids. And that's fine because we all come together like,
Starting point is 00:08:18 this one's washing dishes, this one's changing diapers if you need be, this one's doing that. Everybody does. You did it's a traditional way. Yeah, right. I got to do, how'd you,
Starting point is 00:08:28 how'd you, did you have to do an interview? How the hell did you know? How did you do this? What you on tour, just like, all right, she could be part of the family.
Starting point is 00:08:40 She could be like, how did you do it? How did you do it? How did you do it four times? So, okay, so after my divorce, you know, my very public, very ugly divorce, I realized that just through being dishonest, I heard a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I heard a lot of people. And I decided at that moment, I don't ever want to be a reason. Nobody showed like, really? So from that moment, I was like, I'm just keep it a buck with everybody about everything, be good, bad, ugly, whatever. I'm going to keep it a buck.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I don't ask me if the, dress make you look fat if you don't really want to hear the answer because I'm going to tell you straight up, right? So one of the ones that we've been around a little longer than the other ones. So I basically just sat down like, listen, you know I rocked what you. We've been rocking for forever. Through this, through that, we've been rocking.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I love you. I do. But it ain't just you. I'll also rock with this one and this one. So a man could love more than one woman. Absolutely. Absolutely. I just want to say, yo, Jay. I'm throwing you out this motherfucker. Yo, Jay, let him ask you the fucking question.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I didn't say nothing. You ain't got four a while. You ain't got four wives. You never seen somebody interrupt and didn't tell you to be quiet. Because you're like, you can love more than, you can love more than one woman. You can not say. Marry men won't say that. This is this shit men won't say.
Starting point is 00:10:02 They can't. But you got four, so that's how it goes. What do we call that in America? It's polygamy. Real shit. It's polyamory if you're not married. It's polygamy if you're married. and polygamy is illegal in a lot of America.
Starting point is 00:10:15 So it's Polly. Polly. It's so, you know, I woke up one day. A lot of bark and a lot of pink horse power in the cabin door there. Listen, first of all me. Fucking rock a bull. I'm abused. I'm abused.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Like, I'm lyrically abused. Some of my friends come to the house, they fucking, they're going light candles for me. Like, I'm sitting there like Al Bundy. Like, ah, I'm like, watch the TV. It's very hard. to get me upset before them doing that shit at the same time. But see, you don't happen like that.
Starting point is 00:10:48 It don't happen like that. Because I'm very, very, very adamant about drawing the line in the sand. It's like, listen, I'm going to let you say what it is you need to say. But once we start going here, you lost me anyway. So you might as well not.
Starting point is 00:11:00 When I was thinking about asking you his question, I'm thinking, so what you got? Like a giant bed, like a big fucking jacking. Alaska. Alaska. Alaska. Alaska. See, I need that.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Alaska. Alaska King is like. Your Vince, book me in the Alaskan King. Like, only to. Book me. Double Kings together. Promotes. Double King?
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yeah. I only think I heard of California and something else. I heard of. I never heard of Alaska. I never heard of no shit like that. Fat Joe. Fat Joe deserving an Alaskin King. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:36 No Fat Joe deserves an Alaskin King. I guess you a number. You need two more people on it. Because, my, you can't buy. Why in Alaska can you got to get it made? You got to get somebody to make it. They ain't got to come there and build it. They got to build it.
Starting point is 00:11:47 It's like a giant bed. Yes. Yo. It's about it. You're a cow. You're an inspiration, Neil. I like it. I like that.
Starting point is 00:12:01 We're going to live vicariously through you. That's it. And I hopes it works out. Everything is good, man. Everything is good. Again, we have problems just like, just like monogamous relationship, all that shit is real.
Starting point is 00:12:12 You're going to argue over stuff. But again, at the end of the day, as long as you are a head of household and everybody understands that, then arguments don't last on. Like, you know, again, I'm going to let you get it out and let you say what you got to say. I'm going to hear you. But once it's done, it's done. And we're not good. We're not going to. You think a broke man can have four women in the lasting, uh, if you do it the right way.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Because again, it's not, it's not. So listen, all women ain't going, it's not going to work. They're not rocking with that. It has to be a certain kind of woman. She got to, she got to have a certain mindset if she going to do it. Because if she's the kind of woman again, that she needs birthdays and all this. What's your question?
Starting point is 00:12:49 I got two questions. Go on, go on. How far apart? Because you know how you said you had one that was with you for a while? How was the age difference? No, no, no. How quick did it take to get the other three on board? It wasn't, it didn't take a long time.
Starting point is 00:13:07 It was taking a long time. I kind of set up a dinner. I told the one that I want you to meet, I want you to meet the other ones. it was just three. So I told her to meet the other two. Where the last one come from? She's one of my dancing. She's the newest. Yeah. Yeah, she's one of my dancing.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Please, I don't thank him because whenever I did this podcast without him yesterday, and I went crazy. And I was like, damn, where is my man when I need him to say, chill, relax? Because he's the calm. We'll get canceled, honey. Yes, he's like, he's like, chill, relax. Yesterday, I'm up and. in their years. So what it was like, yo,
Starting point is 00:13:49 you know, they came with five. You know, I'm like, yo, I walk out of there my own, the crazy guy,
Starting point is 00:13:55 the Fayitos, we call him the hundred boys. You miss me. They walked out with me like, yo, God, I should have been, referee feet.
Starting point is 00:14:02 What you was doing yesterday? We did, we did a show yesterday. We did a show yesterday. And Neil? It was great. He's living his life, honey.
Starting point is 00:14:10 He got three holes. Four. Four. Four. Four. Guess what? There's a such thing. I asked.
Starting point is 00:14:17 There's an Alaskin king bag, right? What's the shit called? Laskin king, man. It's the last king. He got a... He's got a couple of them. He's sleek with four... He's talking to her.
Starting point is 00:14:26 She got to... Listen, what? That man got to fit five people. Him, four chicks in the fucking bag. That's a different kind of bag. But what makes you go from being married? What makes you go from being married to having, like, four girlfriends? Well, I'm going to tell you the answer.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Since, yeah, guys. No, no, no, no. We're not guys. We don't got four wives. I get you. I can't answer. I'm going to tell you. I can't answer.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I'm going to tell you what the man told me. Okay, that's a good answer. And it was a good answer. He said, I was tired of hurting women. I was tired of lying to them. He said, cheating on them and stuff like that to where I was like, fuck it. I'm going to let y'all know. I need four.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Y'all with it? He said, I'm just going to keep everything on it. If the dress looks horrible, everything is going to be clean sleep. He said he's not lying no more. And he needs four You know You know I put in a lot of work, boys
Starting point is 00:15:23 I didn't know I don't think it's that easy I don't care what he say They ain't that easy Four women Yeah How can it Bro I got a daughter and a wife
Starting point is 00:15:34 And I'm dizzy, bro What are you talking about? Four women He makes it sound like it's easy That is not easy That is not easy That should be like Like which
Starting point is 00:15:43 Fritz player is single My brother Fritz Played me like yo, I pray for you. He said, you're going to heaven. How many do you? You're busing in a day.
Starting point is 00:15:52 That's a quarter of. How many do you? Imagine if all of them want to get fucked that day. He got to put it. Could you, could you, are we going back? And so then it's like,
Starting point is 00:16:02 could he technically put in that work on a four clip? What about the album? I'm going to feel away. Oh, so you're going to feel away. Oh, that shit. If you're on. Like if women on set. You know, man, so...
Starting point is 00:16:17 With child. No. Because he's making it sound easy, and I know it's not easy. I know it's not easy. If you got four bitches, right? You could buzz, like, twice a day, Poly... Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:16:28 If it's four. And it's a hard. I want to get fucked, but you fuck this bitch, and now you can't enough for me. Not one of the bitches is tight. So you ain't telling me it's not easy. You're not telling me it's easy.
Starting point is 00:16:42 That shit is not easy. For real. Dead ass. Yo, but listen. What I'm trying. A bitchful certain type of way. You was fuck this bitch in the morning. Now you can't nuff him in the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And I need dig now. But you can't fuck me because you fucked this earlier. That shit makes you want to argue. That will get me tight. So you as a female saying, don't go for that. It's got to be turbulent instead. It has to be. What's the for me to do, man?
Starting point is 00:17:11 That fucking Cardi B. She's saying some real shit. We want to know what that. the women think. The women want to know what we think. We want to know what they think. We want to have your head with Neil. Would have been a good one.
Starting point is 00:17:25 She got her blessed for. You got this guy crying. She's killing me. You're like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. But that's real shit. I didn't get into that, right? Like that. I know they be arguing.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I want to know. Now I want to know. But right before. before you, I was about to release the album. Something happened with Dev Jam and y'all got up out of it. Yeah. Yeah. How serious it is to be able to do
Starting point is 00:17:58 what you want to do and ownership and the bullshit and the politics of the business that after being in something so long, you still have to go through the bullshit. The politics and the business never stops. Never. I think that's the rule. I think that's the biggest takeaway.
Starting point is 00:18:17 from us. You know what I'm saying? We ain't been out in 15 years. And it's still the same thing. Yeah, still the same thing. That's the most discourage. For anybody with some type of business mind, you can love, you can love rap.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Like, we love it, be passionate about it, but it's something with the business side that always discourages you and make you just want to do other things sometimes. Basically, we had the album, had the album, put the album together, so on and so forth. And, um,
Starting point is 00:18:47 You know, they got, we turned it in and we turned it in with the Kendrick verse. And they didn't want to put it out. They didn't want to put it out. Basically, they didn't, what I feel like, they didn't like the optics while they were going through their lawsuit of, you know, clips, Kendrick together on a song, you know, coming out under UMG with the lawsuit they got going on and so on and so forth. So, ended up having a... Basically, y'all got caught in the 211 triple crossed that, nothing to do. Basically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 You know, it wasn't even on that type of time. No, it happens all the time. It happens to me. Let me finish. Let him finish, man. So, you know, just, you know, so we ended up having a barrow way out of the situation. It gets a little tricky because we had a one album deal.
Starting point is 00:19:37 The clips did. And then, you know, I was signed there as well. So you couldn't just, you know, the clips couldn't just leave without me. You know what I'm saying? And so we had to figure it out. And here we are. Rock nation.
Starting point is 00:19:52 You were in a position to buy yourself out. Shout out the hole, man. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rock nation, for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Yeah, man, you know, just whatever, man. You know, we roll with the punches, bro. Like, yeah, that's what we do. That's what we do. That's what we know where we feel. We know what we do. Yeah. And always got the faith in the music, man.
Starting point is 00:20:12 The faith is always in the music. Yeah. Like, we do we hear. We always know that shit gonna be right. So that's, you know what I'm saying? That's what we believe in. Right. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:20:23 You got a tour coming up, a thing I've seen. August 3rd. August 3rd, man, September 10th. 25 dates of just back to back, man. They sent me a tour bus the other day. I'm like, whoa. Who like, what? When the last time you've seen one that else, man?
Starting point is 00:20:40 It's so loud. It's so good to live life when you don't need the bus, right? I'm like, man, yo. Yo, we used to live on a bus. Now it's like a bus. The butt, they send me the bus. They send us two buses. You got a sweet.
Starting point is 00:20:53 You got a sweet. And round with all these people. I'm like, how do you know I want to be around all these people? Yeah, I turn down towards, man. My knees ain't the same than my ankles. Man, I mean, like, what? Two months? Keep that.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Like, you know, I don't think I could do it. Like, I'm going to be real with you. You know, I work on the week. Right now, I'm gone. Like, I go every weekend. but to do the tour thing every day, bringing the noise every day, every city. I haven't done that in a long time, B.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I don't know if I want that opportunity. I'm keeping it real. For us, you know, I guess with us just being away for so long, it's like, it's the highlight to get back in front of the fans. You know what I'm saying? So we'll sacrifice that. No, no, they're waiting for you too. You know now.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I love it. Yeah. I love it. I love it. I love it. Listen, I go see kids every time he ain't awful, man. You also do pull-ups with one finger, bro. You not built like...
Starting point is 00:21:57 I'm just trying to live, man. In this time and there is a lot of young dudes that look older than everybody on this couch. Yeah. From the never they put in their body, never they indulging. Whether we all don't want to take the role model stance, but we are.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And so, you know, guys prior to us, you know, they fucked up with drugs and all type of shit like that. And it was really hard. We've always loved them for the integrity of the music and what they played for the game. But these young kids, they're looking at us. There's a young kid right now popping 25
Starting point is 00:22:35 or something who's probably looking at this shit. Like, yo, my OGs look good, bro. That means I could look right. I could be right. right in the future. I could do right. And that's a moral obligation that we don't
Starting point is 00:22:50 accept, but we really do accept. Yeah. Right. You know. And I can see that at John. We do. We're pushing forward the right way so the young brothers and sisters see us and know they can get to the promised land. I got a five-year-old too, man.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So I got to be... Yeah, you got to be... Yeah, he gets loose from you in the Park. Yeah. And you can't breathe. You can get out of there on you. Gotta chase him.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah, man. How are you feeling about the album? What's the, I see you had an event. You had to play for the DJs, play a couple sessions. I love it. I did go. I was the reception. Like Puscher said, man, the faith is in the music.
Starting point is 00:23:33 You know what I'm saying? It's what we believe in. Once we deliver exactly what it is we want to do when it sounds the way, exactly the way we want it to sound. You know, we don't think about nothing else. We deliver it our part and release it and just, you know, see the acceptance. However it comes, yeah. It's going to be accepted way.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I think the biggest part of a fan, like with me, a biggest part of a fan is like, yo, what the clips are thinking in 2025, like what they're talking about 2025. You know, something, well, I don't know if you know, but something you get criticized for is talking. that heavy weight. Yeah. 20, 25, right? Yeah. I got guys to be like, your man, be talking.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I'd be like, yo, I love this shit. Let me, let me chime in on that. The beautiful thing of coming from where we come from and talking to talk we talk is the challenge is, how could he say what he want to say now after having success, having money, be, you know, getting married. I'm being a family man, still active. still doing this thing.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And when you're nice, that's the only challenge. Everybody that keeps saying, he's saying the same thing, they even fucking listening, right? And they just need something to say because they got a keyboard. And not only that, what is everybody else saying? What is everybody else saying? Yeah. No, it did.
Starting point is 00:24:58 What is everybody else saying? I agree with you 1 million percent. I just came off a vacation saying that you'll pay. I was writing on the plane and it just immediately speaks violence. I just don't know. I'm in the nicest place, Cobbles.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Shit is beautiful. I jump on the plane. I got eight hours. And I'm like, when I blow the head off, when I hit, I'm just, it's like,
Starting point is 00:25:23 I don't know what people understand. Maybe it's my therapy. Maybe that's what I do. What is it for you? You know what I liken it to? I liken it to, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:33 just having a, you know, first of all, rap has always come from a very real place. You know what I'm saying? So it's like... For real rap, for rap, the people that can rap.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Yeah, it comes from a very real place. So, you know, with that being said, and, you know, being in it, you know, 23 years, I feel like at this point, I liken it to, you know, only like, you know, somebody who loves mob movies or a person, you know what I'm saying? A person, that's what they choose to. Like, you know, I don't watch, I don't watch horror.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I watch A&E. You know, it's scarier. I believe it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I liken my music to that as well. I don't know, man. Listen, you can't please everybody. But listen, 23 years in this, I'm not trying to please nobody.
Starting point is 00:26:31 But myself. That's what I care about. Like, you know, I know that my taste, my ear and what it is that I want to hear that resonates with a certain type of person that's the type of person I want to talk to. That's the person I like. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:52 I know. The person who says that, who says like, oh, you know, he talked that heaviness and out of that. Like, man, I'm sure I don't even gel with you anyway. We don't even like you. I know. I know I don't like you. I'm positive I don't like you.
Starting point is 00:27:07 We don't like you. But you're not even. my type of dude. You not, man. So I just, you know, I take it with a grain of salt, but, you know, more importantly, I know, I know who my fan is. Today's show is brought to you by a presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet.
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Starting point is 00:29:16 We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
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Starting point is 00:30:13 Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you. exactly what happened. That's where SportsSlice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls,
Starting point is 00:31:08 we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slico Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world,
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Starting point is 00:32:27 The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on club. She won. I mean, she went down to three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart women's sports. So I'm more modern, but Jadica, he liked to show off because he knows, you know, I ain't got no new socks. My shit holes you.
Starting point is 00:33:23 He got to be. He's Jadikas, though. He said a lot of flash shit, so when he's got a lot of life. He got guns that the government ain't got. Come on, man. The walls do a 360 and the floor lip up. He got, yo, oh my God. Now, this is what I was going to ask, though.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Oh, shit. Jadikas, you was bald for the longest. You mean to tis. tell me that you had a completely healthy headline and you could have just grew your shit back at any moment. Yeah, it was a plan. That shit is crazy, bro. That shit crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:54 We are out here bald with no options. And you just said, fuck it, I'm just going to grow my shit back. You got to wash your shit. No, you don't. You disrespectful. We thought I thought you was bald. You had a paper towel wrapped around your forehead for years. You came out.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Warheads was in. You know what I'm saying? Because of the honor? Nah. You guys. I don't know about we at, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had, I'm not going over there, man. Why not?
Starting point is 00:34:21 You look like you still want to wear hair. I do still want to wear hair. I don't look like it. What do you mean you want to wear hair? He's weird. I'm wearing it. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that.
Starting point is 00:34:33 There you go. There you go. Oh, my talking about. All right. So what I'm saying is work. You need a little bit. Go to Turkey, man. You to make history.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I already. He needs a little bit. Nah. No. Tori, Tiger, a lot of people did. He only need, like a half it. He don't need whatever. They got it.
Starting point is 00:34:52 He's got that Sherman Helmson. This shit is right. Hylmsey. He's right. He's got something. Your shit pushed back. I'm not going over there. There's a solution.
Starting point is 00:35:03 There's not a solution. Not for me because I've seen what it looked like in the days leading up. I can't go through that process. When the front of your head looked like is they the meat. I see you guys get it. You got mean hats. All you got to do is get the,
Starting point is 00:35:16 yeah, I see the guys get it. You need to do it. I ain't lying to you because you love your hair. You got to fix that shit up. I didn't say I love it. I just love the fact that I could do it. Like he did. Like me, I've been born forever.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Right? I can't grow no hair now. Yeah. What happened to me was, I used to have hair like the fucking Brady bunch. Right? Yeah, we've seen it. And so when I was young, all the time.
Starting point is 00:35:39 No, for real, Jay. He's telling the truth. I see it. I see that. You see that. You seen it's okay. I've seen that pick, man. I see you, man.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Fuck with the people at home, man. You keep fucking with it. I see the picture. Let me tell you, I had a hand like the Brady bunch, but I shaved it all because all the tough guys had the baldies in my hood. My father chased me around the projects four times trying to beat me up because he knew what that meant. You couldn't catch you? You couldn't catch me. But I was right.
Starting point is 00:36:02 You know, the point is one day I made a bet with big pun. And I was like, he was like, yo, man, man, you can't grow no ass. I said, you fucking crazy my shit. Like the Brady bunch. If I went right now, I grew. or braids, whatever. So I try to grow this shit. And it was like rest and peace to the headline, everything.
Starting point is 00:36:19 That shit was coming up. Like, that man, pun, had some more jokes about that shit. I lost it. So I say my shit. But now I got guys that they do the fake. They got like a tattoo shit. I can't do that. I can't do it either.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah, yeah. But you could do the turkey. I can't do the turkey. Because it's your real here. Come back. No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:36:39 No. No. No. I'm not. So that's for your signature. My story is we came in. Looch had the, Looch had the high top fade.
Starting point is 00:36:51 SP had the blowout, chemical blowout back then. Like the Jackson Fad? No, when it was when the dope boys had it, when they came back in, like Mephyman. Oh, okay, got you. So boom, when we got the deal, they still had it. I went ball first.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Then I made a thing where. I'll shit fall out. I'm gonna come back. And I just kept my word and came back. God bless you, brother. Because if I had here, my shit, they'll call me Alejandro. My shit would be redolfo.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Go to turkey. You said, I was going to go out of work. I don't want it. Damn. No. I don't want it. You got to go there. I do not want it.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yes, you do. Because I see how you look on the front of them. This shit will be Redolfo. Now, that's the look you make when you own that shit. You know what I'm saying? That was like, right? My shit I had this. My shit would be like this with the curl
Starting point is 00:37:54 with the fucking juice and all that shit on my shit. So led. Disrespect. Shout out to Yulia and Jesse Terrero. He got the shit with the curl. Like, they would think I ain't Fat Joe. I'd be Fat Joe's twin or some shit with somebody. I would really be on some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:38:11 about it. This week in hip-hop history, y'all. May 19th, man. DMX dropped in 1998, The Dog.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Always love for the dog. Ninety-eight, he dropped his debut album, as dark and hell is high. The importance of that album to me is that, you know, he put us on.
Starting point is 00:38:38 He came and got us, put us, bought us with rough riders, told him this is, we starting it off like, you know, this who I want.
Starting point is 00:38:45 want to represent with me. And the rest was history. To see where we came from, to see where he came from, he was already there in there, like Bruce Springsteen and YO, we already looked at him as like a rock star. Then fast forward,
Starting point is 00:39:02 him being the only or one of the only rappers that ever do woodstop. That shit is crazy, you know what I mean? That video tape fell out. It's darken that hot, will forever mean the world. to me because, you know what I mean, he gave me a chance to change my family's financial situation. You know, DMX stuck a guy up right in front of me.
Starting point is 00:39:25 DMX stuck a lot of niggins up. No, but he was already a star. Oh, he did it after he was X? Yes. Oh, shit. It's me, him and pun, in the gas station in Brooklyn. After a show, thousands of people after the show, we in the gas station, dude comes with some chains,
Starting point is 00:39:42 the DMX was like, yo, hold up, y'all. He went and took it. His chains came back and started talking to us in the gas station. Yo, DMX. You can't get indicted. He dead, so. No, no, no, he's done. He dead.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I'm just telling you a true story. Like, I got so many DMX. You might have. We got to filter some of these stories, grow. I'm telling you, you might have, you got to have incredible DMX story. I'm not telling you none of them, God. The crazy, since we go, I got to give a punch story.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Look, when we shot the John Blaze video. Do you make show that? No, listen. This is how long ago it was and this sounds crazy. This was Stashbox's first got invented. He wanted to test his shit out. It was more before that, but get ahead.
Starting point is 00:40:28 In the 80s, we had Stash trust. They wasn't doing what the shits was doing as a technology. All right, yeah, yeah. So I wanted to show you the Stash, yeah. He wanted to test his own shit out. He drove. Somebody was driving.
Starting point is 00:40:43 He was in the. passenger let off a four, I don't know what it was. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. And wanted to get pulled over and got pulled over. I said, this thing is nuts, though. He is nuts. That was the crazy. He put it in the stash?
Starting point is 00:41:03 Yeah, he had enough in the cops. Let it off, pull a block of the dude. Pull over. I don't know what you're talking about. Officer, this. And they ain't having this shit to make it pop out yet so he was I said this thing a pun is crazy I just yeah the bins the way to explain it to you the way to explain it to you right is you know how somebody could be a genius in something and then
Starting point is 00:41:28 in just common sense he just don't know what he's like I would go to his house right and he would have about 30 40 guns in this house if you sat in a pillow it was a gun you put your hand on the chicken and there was a gun you hit it. It was just, and I would sit there because I really came from the streets. I know what Rico indictments are. Indictments are. I know what all this is.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I don't came from, I mean, like, they're going to make a jail just for you, buddy. Nah, they don't lock rappers up like that. They got swimming pools for rappers and all that. Tennis courts, I'm like, yo, bro. He's thinking about the futuristic feds. What? And I would tell them, like, you're crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Then I go around his hood and the cops pull me over. Like, because I'm one of the only rappers who never moved out the hood even until he died. He refused to move out the hood. I was already in Jersey. Like, yo, come in Jersey. Birds are chirping. You know, no, I'm in the hood. I'm the realist.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Pun, at the crib in the hood, Tim Benzers. Exotic $20,000 dogs and all type of shit. Like, he was big pun double platinum in the hood. Me school? He didn't care. And so I would go to his hood and as a respected elder brother, the police won't me over. So I'm like, your officer, why are you putting, yo, Joe, man, you know, you got to stop throwing eggs at the old ladies in front of the supermarket.
Starting point is 00:43:00 You know, we know he's the only guy with the bends, with the water gun shooting the old ladies. I'm like, yo, I go in this house. I start arguing with everybody in the house. Like, yo, punt. they're gonna put you in jail you're shooting the water guns at the old ladies they know the only guy
Starting point is 00:43:18 with a 500 bends in the fucking sound view it's you punt you're going now he just didn't he would go real from genius to common sense no sense
Starting point is 00:43:33 like I had a real struggle with him and Norrie because Norrie's also my little brother when they was together they was crazy them two together is nuts Oh, they used to see me and be like, yo, Joe's the fun killer. He's the fun killer.
Starting point is 00:43:46 No, I don't want you to go to jail and not get to the back. Like, I know what's going on out here. You guys are too crazy. They gave us a sign. I don't know who's controlling your time. But hold up. So we only got five minutes. Mama, come over here.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I want you sit on the couch. Make this shit legendary. You know what I'm saying? Sit down, mother. You know, we love you. How proud are you to be Bubba Chuck's moms and this journey in life with Bubba Chuck and all the success
Starting point is 00:44:25 and how you see him come around as a man? It's important because you're the first mother, athlete's mother that we all fell in love with. We love you braiding his hair in the middle of the court. I got to stop you with that. That's not me.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I braided his hair. That's not her. He's supposed to know that. I braided his hair for all the, when he first wanted his hair braided. Now, I did braid his hair, but his hair was coming to loose in the back.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And he was worried about his hair. You know, he liked to be flat. He was worried about his hair coming to loose. So, you know, my sister called me, and she was like, Ian, he keep on telling me and looking at me, and I don't know how to breed here. And I was like, but all you got to do is just braid his hair.
Starting point is 00:45:11 You braiding just the back of it. And so when I got there, I saw my son. That cap is rubbing off. It's rubbing off on it. If it is cap, it's rubbing off. Because mommy got... Yeah, because mommy got...
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yeah, because mommy got... Oh, flag. Mommy got the story wrong. It is what it is. I got to be authentic. You taught me to be that way. You know what I mean? It didn't go down.
Starting point is 00:45:33 It didn't go down. And then he over there calling him, now I'm Bubbachuck, why are he talking to Mommy? Now I go to... At first I was AI. Now I turned into Bubbachuck when he's talking to Mommy.
Starting point is 00:45:44 But it didn't... It ain't happen like that. I got my version You got your version, yeah, okay You know, you know your son AI You know, my mom's ain't here, man So we want to hear it You know, how proud are you of your son, man
Starting point is 00:46:01 And all his accomplishments And how he inspired generations of people First of all, I was proud of him From the first day I saw him You know, because back then Yeah Back then, back then when you have a baby, and I was so young, like he said. So, you know, I had to have him Cesarianberg, and I was sleep.
Starting point is 00:46:26 So when I woke up in recovery, and they brought him to me, and I was like, he's so light. And you know what I'm saying? But when he opened his eyes and he looked at me and I saw my eyes looking back at me, I said, oh, yeah, that's my baby. You know, and I checked everything on him. I checked everything on him. But what really blew my mind is, first of all, I got kicked off the basketball team because I got pregnant with him. But what blew my mind was his hands and his arms.
Starting point is 00:46:53 His arms was past his kneecap. When I laid them out like that, they were way past his kneecap. And I was like, I got a baller. And I was happy. I was happy. And so I told my family, I told my whole family, I was like, you know, I got a baller. So everybody was like looking at me like I was simple or whatever. But the thing is, from that point on,
Starting point is 00:47:14 he came in my life and he was the perfect child. He was not hardheaded. He would listen to everything I said and he loved the daylights out of me. And at that point, I needed love because of the fact that my mom had died at 29 years old,
Starting point is 00:47:33 male practice, but anyways, the Iverson said, Senator to Virginia, and that's the best thing they could have done for me. And when I had him, when I was carrying him, I was pregnant. playing ball in the Hartford, Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:47:46 And I went from there to Bethelwood High School playing ball. And he had a favorite cheer. And his cheer... Don't do that, Ma. Okay. How we got to hear it? Mama, Mama, I'm not listening to him. Yeah, tell us the chair.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Yeah, it was a favorite cheer. And it used to be... No, no, it used to be... Everybody'd be on the court, and we had half time. And then everybody had sing, go, brew is go. And everybody had shit up. he'll say, shake that thing.
Starting point is 00:48:19 So that's my story. But far as proud, I want to tell you something that he said to me this year. I said, Bubba, I said, you know, I am so proud of you. I said, you just make me so proud. I'm proud of you. I just wanted to express that to him so he'll know it from my heart. Yeah. And he said, I'm not finished.
Starting point is 00:48:41 He said, I'm not finished making you proud. And that's what he's been doing. With that being said, this ain't that. That ain't there. This cracking kiss, make some noise for our guests. AI and Mama love. How does it feel to be on the Guinness book and be one of the biggest female superstars
Starting point is 00:49:13 with the most longevity and relevancy in the game? I mean, honestly, it's a blessing. I'm super, super humbled. And it's funny, when you talk about that, remember, I didn't know what none of that meant. You know what I'm saying? I'm a new artist. Maybe we're happy for you.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yes, everybody's happy. And I'm looking, I'm like, well, is that good? $500,000? Is that a good number? You know what I'm saying? I've genuinely had no idea. Isn't a good number. So I was just like super appreciative and to be able to be here today and still, as we both were in an arena in London to a sold out
Starting point is 00:49:53 20,000 seat of holding a mic out, allowing people to sing on records is a blessing. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just so happy. I'm grateful, you know. Oh, man. You know, we're very competitive in our house. Oh, because, you know, we didn't like that. That means the baby got all last to dagger, though, that she throws.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Like, my debut did a half. No, no, she don't, but you did a love to do. No. He's got a diamond. No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:50:20 You were a diamond. You did a half the first. I'm going down down. She got me on that. There's nothing I can say. Oh, boy. Okay. I'm looking at the video.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Yeah. Okay. Hold on up. You 26 of 33. Hold on, Jay. That wasn't a week. That wasn't a week. That video come out.
Starting point is 00:50:44 That was not a week. I'm going down down. You might be a number. That was not. He was not bringing the numbers. It's 10 million solely. That wasn't the week. He got $1.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I was talking about the week. Not talking about the week. Listen, let me run down the hardware that they got in their house. There's a lot of hardware. Just listen, ladies and gentlemen. Nelly,
Starting point is 00:51:11 three Grammys, four American Music Awards, two BET Awards, nine Billboard Awards. Nellie has sold over 21 million albums in the United States, one of the best-selling rap artists in American history. Country, Grandma, Diamond, 10 million.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Nellyville, Diamond, plus one, 11 million. Now, Ashanti, one Grammy, two American Music Awards, six ASCAP awards, eight Billboard Awards. First debut album, 500,000 of first week, triple platinum, chapter two, platinum, concrete Rolls, platinum. 36 Hardware and that. I'm a lot.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I'll say 36 Christmas movies. You're a lifetime favorite race. But could be have a Christmas dream
Starting point is 00:52:07 for Razzleberry just I'm going to I'm going to my money forever. Yo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:19 It's competitive in the house. And a star. Oh, and a star. I forgot. The star, can't forget the star. Can you forget the star. Yeah, it's nice.
Starting point is 00:52:29 It gets real in there, man. We love that, though. What? What? That's beautiful competition. I met a Shanti. To put that under one race. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I met it Shanti. It's a blessing. Could we, could I talk about that? Talk about it. I met Shanti. Shanti was like a studio. We just a studio body. You could call it a studio rat.
Starting point is 00:52:52 That's what you. they used to say. That's what they used. I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying that. Go ahead. Studio body. She up in there.
Starting point is 00:53:00 And the first day I met her, she was so upset because they broke into her car and stole her radio. This woman was ready to file charges to the moon and back. What happened?
Starting point is 00:53:14 They just stole my radio. Crackette broke the way. I mean, it was like somebody murder somebody. I'm up in that shit. I'm like, you stole a radio with the Benzzi box. Oh, you take the box. It was like, oh, the boy.
Starting point is 00:53:30 They stole her shit. They stole my radio, bro. And you know, I would see her in the studio and then one day I asked him. I said, yo, what does the girl do? Right? Because they was like gangster rappers, right? So they said, ah, she sings R&B. Right?
Starting point is 00:53:45 And then she did the big pun. I said, I said, you want to write a hook for the big pun thing? And she killed it. Smoked that, you know. She smoked. that joint and then we did the West Love. Yep. And then after that, it was the princess of...
Starting point is 00:53:59 That was it. Hip, I was soul. And she... Yo, no talk. Every time I see this, he was advocating. When we weren't together, Nelly, what are you doing? Every time I see her kiss, Nelly!
Starting point is 00:54:16 My God, how you been? That's great. What are you doing? That's why you need that for 10. You know what you got me? At first he thought I was bugging out. Yeah, I used to be like, Joe. Tom is tripping.
Starting point is 00:54:33 It's crazy, right, because I also think of one situation, not to bring up anything negative because we just. But I remember the time I got into it with 50 Cent, yo, fifth, what's up? We performed in Germany in two days. But I remember the time when I got into it with him at the MTV Awards. You know, it's business. is really crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:54:53 Because you think everybody, your man, everybody, this and this and that. Well, you was the only person at all the rappers that I knew that I seen get up. And you, you was telling me, y'all, I got you. Like, I'm holding you down.
Starting point is 00:55:08 In that, when I was like, yo, 50 said this, and then he came back and diss me. But you had my back. Well, I knew five. Me and five always had a great relationship. That kind of distorted them. Well, no.
Starting point is 00:55:22 because and just to think we what was we at? MTV Awards that's what I thought he was going we were at the MTV Awards and they were sitting like a table right behind us now I didn't have too much to drink I'm hype this is right before Kid Rock and Pamela and Tommy Lee slapped the shit out of Tommy Lee
Starting point is 00:55:46 yeah so there was something before Chris Rock and we were sitting at the table right you know that and Kid Rock is sitting with us and Tommy Lee is like a table over and my cat, Kid Rock, that's my cat too. He hot. He hot is fish grease. He's sitting right there.
Starting point is 00:56:03 He's like, I should go and I'm gassing him. He's not going to go do this. You gasing him? Well, I'm not gasping him. You know what I'm like, shit. Me. You know what I'm saying? So he does what he does.
Starting point is 00:56:19 So what he did? He smack who? Because I don't remember this. Tommy Lee. You don't remember that MTV Awards out in Vegas? Yeah. We would stay right next to them. We were sitting at the table. But Five was right back here, right?
Starting point is 00:56:33 So I'm hyped. I didn't got hype. I didn't got big. I said, babe. Fits. I'll make that. I apologize. You want me to go over there?
Starting point is 00:56:43 What? You make, don't be looking. You want me to go, mate? She was not. No way in my heart is I'm thinking she going to tell me to go over there. She's like, yeah, babe. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:53 That's a new Y' God. That's a new Yon. Yo. That's a new. Oh, go. So, Kiss, I'm like, I'm going. So I turn around. She can't see my face.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I'm walking towards five, like, Hey, man. Let me highlight you. You know, table full of G unit. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, God. This is not going to go right. This is not going to go well.
Starting point is 00:57:19 You know what I said? And. I started laughing coming. He cracked the spine. I was like, he's fine, man. Hey, man. Do me a favor. Do me a favor.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Will you, my old lady, man, do me a favor. Man, apologize for him, man. Ashanti, I'm sorry. That's exactly what he says. In the middle of the whole crowd in the audience. I was like, I turned back around to her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Talk about it. By the way, I had personally 20 meetings with him over her. Oh, my God, yes. Without her even knowing, I don't have sat down with him 20 different times. It was like, yo, bro, she got nothing. Like, you know, that's my sister. You bugging out this, this, this, this. Twenty.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Yeah. You didn't tell me to him, Mo. I know she got nothing to do with him, Mo, but what you want me to do is war. Man. I was like, oh. I was hot. Yeah. You was hard over that, right?
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah, I didn't have nothing to do with it. And then after he said, he started like, yeah. Yeah. I was like, okay. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name?
Starting point is 00:58:36 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.
Starting point is 00:58:49 But this one's extra special. So how did we? How do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:59:10 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel. Help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
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Starting point is 01:01:11 happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker. room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer
Starting point is 01:01:33 beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, Follow Timbo Slica Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast,
Starting point is 01:02:04 I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Jenchian win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. There's two moments in my life and my career that I can cite you for. I just want to say thank you, brother. Like, you don't know where they meant to me. One was, you put me in the video and your video.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Hudson is the key to success. Me, you, Naz. Man, like. You know, him pictures come out like once a year. It's just, like, it's going to be here forever. I love that, man. We was kids in the home, but you pulled up to the Bronx. That meant something, no, that meant something because, you know, coming from Chicago,
Starting point is 01:03:16 man, one of the things we wanted was just to be heard by New York. And for you to be like, yo, come on. Even though he's on the same label, if you thought I was on some weak shit, you'd been like, ah. No. You could flag back off that. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Thank you. Thank you. We get the flag back. It's the beloved. I'm going to tell you some shit. What's the second one? Well, the second one we didn't talk about a lot where, man, you practically saved my life.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Oh, get the other flag back. Take the other flag back. Yo, yeah, yeah. Yo, Jay, Jay. He got his flat. Yo, that man really saved my life. Like, I was out on the West Coast with my guy. One of my guys I knew through one of my close homies,
Starting point is 01:04:05 but he was my guy, and he just wasn't happy with the whole situation, the whole Ice Cube Mac 10 beef that we had, told him we had squashed it. We're doing it. We sitting there doing a commercial. This was the most money I was getting paid ever for something at that point in time. Right? we're at peace.
Starting point is 01:04:21 We're like, yo, things is good. Everybody was happening. My God, he's from Chicago. We just couldn't hold it. He couldn't hold it.
Starting point is 01:04:27 So he started ruffling shit. And, man, it just got a little heated. And I want to say that it's not because Fad Joe's tougher than anybody. I literally beg for your life. I literally got in the middle.
Starting point is 01:04:42 It was like, please, he's my friend. He's my brother. You know, he, you know, some people take things personal.
Starting point is 01:04:50 And they finally saw him. And he was on there, saw you, and they was talking crazy. And I was like, no way, this guy. I said, this is literally my brother. And I was begging them because it was the serious ones. I was like, please, this is my brother. Joe, you know, we've been waiting to catch this guy. I said, listen, I can't.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I just couldn't do. I just, and basically I stood in the middle like, please, guys. Like, I cannot do it, but they settled. It was over after that day, right? It was over after that day. But you settled that. Like, like, I'm like, man, we are on, we in California. Don't start nothing.
Starting point is 01:05:33 My homie already, because they already, like you said, they already wanted a piece on me no matter what. What? So my guy out there, he's just going off. And anyway, I knew Joe. I ain't even hit it, but I didn't know everything he did. Oh, no. He did.
Starting point is 01:05:48 I knew it was him that said, yo, this can't happen. And because he had a, you know, a relationship. Super relationship. Still my brother.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Shout out to that. And yeah, shout out to the Eaglewood. Yeah, Eaglewood. That's my family. Eaglewood family was good. That's when Fat Joe the gangster,
Starting point is 01:06:04 I was like, this thing is, because he straight up was like, he can't do that to my man. It was like one of the movies we used to something about good fellas. Good fellas. It was like good.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Hey, once again, I begged him. I was in their mercy and I was just like, please, this is my brother. This is my family. I did that one time for Rich Playa, my best friend. One time they was about to do it and not saying Rich and him ain't real deal. Right. Well, he was getting into it with a seven-headed monster, a guy who just kills.
Starting point is 01:06:36 He's in jail for too many bodies. Right. And I had to jump in the middle and be like, yo, yo, yo, yo, I can't. It's like, yo, fat boy, get out the way. I was like, oh, no, I can. This is my family. I can't. I knew what it meant.
Starting point is 01:06:50 They real deal, and this other guys, you know, a Jeffrey Dahmer. And I'm a monster. And I'm sitting there like, yo, listen, please, let me get it. I said, no. Knock him dead, Ed. Knock him dead. Y'all Eddie, you had up there. But they go, but they go.
Starting point is 01:07:10 The man go, because it's the first argument I ever had with him, right? He goes the next day to Rich and they block on Cyprus. and says, if Joe got in the middle, that means you're good guys. Let's become friends. And they wind up being best friends. My man's still in jail, 30-some years. But he went the next day,
Starting point is 01:07:30 he took it on himself and said, if Fadjo threw himself in the middle, trying to squash it, these guys got to be good guys. And it was all over, you know, staring at each other in the club and a couple of girls. And, you know, these guys,
Starting point is 01:07:43 they kill each other over girls. These gangsts, man. A lot of gangsters in jail killing over girls. I'm telling you, I had a guy, this guy was a maniac. He's still in jail, too, 40 years, right? He was mean. Look, and he turned it. They're scared straight.
Starting point is 01:08:00 No, no, because, no, he's talking. A lot of wars have come over women. Most of them. Yo, but listen, this guy, all I'm going to say to you is this was a mass murder. He's still in jail, 40 years. He would come to the club and he'd go, he's Puerto Rigg, and he'd be like, I, And I'd be like, yo, side. I ain't.
Starting point is 01:08:20 The nend, nah. He's talking about his wife, his bad as shit, too. She was fucking dudes. Yeah. Like, she was loose. So he come on, nana. You know, Jimbo from the barber shop?
Starting point is 01:08:36 Oh. Yeah, he was with the net. With everybody, if his ten guys, no, no, no, no. No, Jimbo. He didn't, yeah. Yes, with the net. Gimbo won't be around the two more.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Like, he would come all. One time I argued with the niggas. Like, I said, no. I don't want to hear that shit. You're a fucking liar. She's the most decent girl in the world. She didn't do it. Yes, the nana.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And everybody knew what that was. Somebody was disappearing over the nina. No, I'm no maniacs like that, man. But you know, common, man. You're the beloved of all, beloved. Let's keep it peace. Hey, man, I got my palisante. Hey, I said.
Starting point is 01:09:18 You know, I said, smoking all of a sudden. What's that like, spoken sage or something? It was supposed to protect us for that story. It's similar to say it's Palisanto. It's Palisanto. You know, it comes from the trees down in Chile. Bring in a good energy. Bring it a good energy.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Move negative energy. I never really brag about jail because I only did four months. I got friends that did 20, 30, 40 years. But last night I got it. I only did 48. I only did four days And that's a lot Looking out the window
Starting point is 01:09:56 For four days Looking at the bus stop What I know you was at county So you had black coffee Bologna sandwich shit like that I had one A couple of Kool-Aid
Starting point is 01:10:07 Tell you something I did time I got to explain this to you I did time in the feds Don't like And there's two You know I'm thinking Mike
Starting point is 01:10:18 I was thinking mate I grew up in the project right? And there's this grass in the middle of all the project builders we got big project buildings every building is 14th floor
Starting point is 01:10:29 145 apartments accounted all the doors right everybody 14 floors 145 apartment accounted all the doors accounted all the doors
Starting point is 01:10:41 now and everybody got nine kids so this shit is like you fuck up one guy you got to fight the other brother you got to fight Jamie Jonathan Craford,
Starting point is 01:10:52 till you get fucked up, to one of them found you out. You gotta go up the line. Then the Cock Diesel brother come out. It's old. Good luck. At least you stood tall, you fought them.
Starting point is 01:11:03 You got your ass with. That's where I come from. Projects is like Gladiator. The point I'm trying to make is is a big grass in my projects. Everybody has shootouts there. They have fights. You know,
Starting point is 01:11:16 one day I go up to the roof of my building and I look at the grass And I say to myself, was this like an experiment? Because like if you go up on my roof and you see the gun battles and the fights and everything that happened in the middle of the grass, you sit up there. It's almost like the Coliseum. And so where I'm getting to is when you go to the feds where I went, you got 2,000 dudes, Jamaicans, area nations, Spanish dudes, black dudes. These white American dudes And there's only four tables
Starting point is 01:11:51 I'm just trying to There's four tables with four chairs That's 16 seats And there's 2,000 guys And it's right in front of the three TVs You got the Spanish TV The black is got Don't know English, she's looking at the mommy's
Starting point is 01:12:08 In the Spanish TV like that's like The whole mundo No no that shit is like You might as well call that shit soft born, motherfucker looking at that. They don't got to know what they're talking about. They're up in there like this every day, right? So you got four tables, of course, I got a table, right?
Starting point is 01:12:26 Ooh, I got a table. No, no, I'm walking there in 10 minutes. In 10 minutes, I say, yo, who sits in them tables? Homeboy looked at me shook because a lot of guys are pussy. They're not really real. Just because you in jail, you act tough dits in you get in jail. I watch people get smack, punched in the face and said, my bag, and keep walking.
Starting point is 01:12:44 These guys cocked. who playing basketball, nephew, you don't got to go in there for me to tell you. The guys you think is tough on your block, I watch guys get punched in their face and say, my bag, I'm sorry and walk away. I never seen no shit like you got to
Starting point is 01:12:59 fucking murder me. Like, you just can't do it, right? So I'm up in there. He does that. I go down to the table. Guys sitting there. I'm like, you're my man. Get the fuck up. He don't want to get up. I say, you're my man. You got to get the fuck up.
Starting point is 01:13:15 He got up and he left. So I took the table. Ten minutes in there, right? Sit down. Half the jail hated me. A thousand niggas hated me because they was like, oh, he's not going to kick freestyles.
Starting point is 01:13:27 These niggas in here on this bullshit, right? You wanted you to ride? Everybody rhyme in jail. Everybody want to rhyme for you. I ain't let one dude ride for me. So I'm sitting down in the chair. They look and some of them hate me, some of them don't. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Who gives a fuck, right? I only got four months anyway. So I'm willing to. be in the box for the four months. The point is, soon as I figured it out, I just needed like a week in there. Right?
Starting point is 01:13:56 Because the first week, the feds don't give you commissary. I don't give a fuck of you Donald Trump. It takes you two weeks. I got him getting it. I walked in there. Listen, you got him getting it.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I got him getting it. No, I got him getting it. He breaks the rules. Let me tell you, I walked in with $5,000 cash in my pocket to put a commissary, he still took two weeks. The point is, the first meal.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I had to wait on line. And they were very generous. Everybody, they kept throwing the, like the plate, they kept throwing. They threw like six and a hated them on my table, right? When I tell you, this shit tastes like, listen, even the guys that mind their business, there's some guys in jail mind their business,
Starting point is 01:14:37 don't bother nobody. They're over there, they don't talk to nobody. You know, they're good people. When I tell you, all of them looked over had wanted to see my first reaction when you had to eat his fucking food this was dog shit this food right my dog was eating better than this
Starting point is 01:14:53 they all look and they was like okay he know what it is in here now right so I go like you but very quick I got me Italian chef they had a chef down in the thing chef Jr he wasn't pussy so don't think he was just a tech but he was my chef he made me homemade ice cream mozzarella
Starting point is 01:15:10 they were still the clams and he would make me Laguini and clams So it's all type of shit. We were dumbing out, right? I got the guy, I got pick up a guy, I told you about Hong Kong's Mongolian. So in jail, in jail... How you named the nigger Hong Kong's Mongolian?
Starting point is 01:15:28 Because he was the guy nobody wanted. And so in jail, if you white, you're with the white guys. You black, you with the black guy, you with the Spanish. He was a white guy that the white guys ain't want. But I saw him. Yeah, but he was... Man, he had to... that boot strength.
Starting point is 01:15:47 So, like, he played basketball, and nobody wanted to deal him because he'll hit you with an elbow or shit, Bobby. He was strong. So I said, my man, come with us, man. You eat with us, you with us. I gave him a name,
Starting point is 01:15:59 Hong Kong's Mongolia. And one day he comes up to me because the guy's partially slow. I mean, but he's just, no, no, he's not slow. He's just slow. He's a little bit off. He ain't go past second grade. But this guy was, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:14 he was. Damn. Second grade. No, but you... Give him at least six grade. No, this guy take out 10. Give him six. Give him six.
Starting point is 01:16:22 This guy would take out 1020 guys. Like, it was all out war. He's going to take out 1020. He's Hong Kong's Montcote. Yo, look at that. He used to stand there like this. The white guys was looking like, oh shit. It got to be something to this.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Fat Joe snatched up this guy. And I'm calling him. And the old job, y'all, you know, listen, they're no different than this show. Hong Kong's Mongolian.
Starting point is 01:16:50 He's walking through. What's up, boss? They're looking like we made him a steak. We didn't recruit this thing. He's the Hong Kong. He was like Shadoor. They let him go.
Starting point is 01:17:00 They let him go. He went past all the drafts and I seen the sparkle in him. I said, yo, this is Hong Kong's money. He'd come up to me one day. He said, boss, boss, I said, what's up? He said,
Starting point is 01:17:15 I just realized Hong Kong and Mongolia is two different places. I said, my man, shit the fuck. I'd be happy I gave you a day. Get the fuck out of you. Okay, boss. Okay, boy. He goes on. But I got this story, but I thought about it last night.
Starting point is 01:17:28 I don't really brag about jail because these guys did 10,000 years in jail. But in the feds, less now than ever, but they always said you go to the feds and guys got money in there. So next to me in the table, don't ask me how they got the table. was for Latinos, but they could be, I'm in Miami, so they could be like Cuban, but I don't think they're Cuban,
Starting point is 01:17:54 but you could tell they got money. Like in the streets, if I pulled up in the Cullin, they're pulling up in the Culloch. These guys got money. They're not bothering nobody. They got money. I don't really talk to them
Starting point is 01:18:04 because they really ain't my type of guys. I'm sorry if y'all watching. There wasn't my style of guy. You know what I'm saying? And so one day, we sitting there, we watch some TV and the guy goes and orders a pizza pie.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Now, at least jail I was in, a pizza pie is like caviar. Right? Everybody ain't have a pizza pie. Any normal person, they have... You had a real pizza pie or somebody... No, not. Jail pizza pie is still a big deal.
Starting point is 01:18:35 In jail, I watched knickis throwing bananas down and they shit of Apple. Like, diggas do the most derelict shit for anything in there. Like, I mean, grown men, yo... watching your back while you're still in a banana. That's how bad it is in jail, bro. This shit is really a third world country in America.
Starting point is 01:18:51 It's bad in there. But anyway, pizza, they're up to like 20 pizzas. For no reason. They couldn't even eat it. Y'all, another pizza. Every time a pizza can, they kept looking at me. My table was right next one. It was like, I go on my cell.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Okay. In the feds, at least the jail I'm at. The eggs they give you in the morning this powdered eggs. They had never seen the real egg in the jail. A fucking egg. Think about where you go to store by, does it.
Starting point is 01:19:23 They had never seen a real egg in the jail I was in. I go to my cell, I come out. Microweys right there the whole fucking shit you see. Crack of egg. Bam, one. That was it. Yo,
Starting point is 01:19:41 they had never seen the egg. Bam, one. Bam, two. Bam, I'm up to 40-50 eggs. Just, you, yeah. Bam. Bam, like, I'm,
Starting point is 01:19:55 the old Joe's watching. The Arvish. They do the challenge. Yo! Yo! Yo! Yo, I'm trying to... 40-50 age.
Starting point is 01:20:11 How about I keep going? Ooh. To like 6 to 7? 678, 6 to 7? 6 to 7. 6.7? Like this? The motherfucking look at me dizzy. They learned. The pizza dudes.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Bro. They'd never seen an egg. I bust open. So many eggs. The scramble eggs was so big. And I just kept going like this. Like, letting them know, like, yo, bro, I got shit you ain't even see in this fucking jail.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Y'all trying to play with me with some pizzas? y'all got me fucked up i get up to the six seven i give him a chef junior let him good you know what's crazy is we had and this this this this this this this no offense but this slight racist what i'm about to say right now we had no no no i'm telling you we had one asian guy in the whole jail one asian and i would bother them every day like yo you make chinese rice you know how to cook you know how to cook. You make, I'm a fat dude. Like, I prefer, like, listen to me, man.
Starting point is 01:21:23 I want the Chinese rice, the man telling me, yo, I don't cook. I keep bothering him. Yo, he's, I don't cook. I don't cook. I'm like, you got Chinese, you know. Huh? They know how to make it. I got to give him it. He wouldn't let me punk him into making Chinese rice. I kept bothering him like,
Starting point is 01:21:41 yo, you make Chinese, you got Chinese food. You got Chinese. You know how to, he was like, no. I don't know All right. So one day is my man's birthday. And I give the dude the white travel like a Mr. Child. And I have him, I have him serve my man for his birthday like his birthday. I say, yo, Mr. Child, baby. Mr. Child, I got the, with the white towel over his head.
Starting point is 01:22:05 I'm like, yo, Mr. Child, man, in the feds, man. You got Mr. Child. Yo, we was clowns, man. This thing is crazy. No, no. Yo, listen. Clowns. I said, so I go on a visit
Starting point is 01:22:21 and somebody slips me some Jordans. Now in the feds, you're even wearing a gray sweat suit or a beige, I don't give a fuck who you are. They are not. No one has Jordans.
Starting point is 01:22:43 I got it by the fault. You told me, yo, slip your shit off. I slipped it off in the visit. Then I put them on as George. Biggest mistake of my life. I go up at the elevator, the whole elevator's life. You know, because in this building,
Starting point is 01:22:57 they got these elevators. You can put a tractor trailer in there. So they got 300 guys on the building. The whole visit is looking at my feet like, I walk in the fucking tear. Puerto Rican dude, barber. I would love to see him. He was a barber with a little tail
Starting point is 01:23:14 from Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico. He was a real one. So he runs up and goes, like I tell you, it's real racial in there. He runs up and goes, Maybock, May bach, he starts screaming. If I wanted to be on the low, it's no low. He's screaming Maybott, Maybop. Basically, he's saying, yo, the Puerto Rico, the Latino guy, the Maybop, like the cullin in on his feet.
Starting point is 01:23:38 You ain't never see this shit. He's telling everybody, yo, the Jordans is a Maybock in here, man. It's a fucking Maybock. He's screaming there. Everybody started looking up from all corner. So I'll get the spaghetti feet damn there. You know, my shit looking like Jerry Lewis. I'm walking too.
Starting point is 01:23:58 For sure, I'm in trouble, right? For sure, I'm not scared of somebody stealing the sneaker. I'm in trouble, right? So I felt like Homeboy, what's the thing? Huggy Bear with the fish tank pumps. Remember when he came out to jail, he had the fish in the shoes. Years later and they was playing public enemy. His shit did I'm going to get you sucker.
Starting point is 01:24:17 bro, I felt like huggy bear walking out there and them shits. Sure enough, the next day, they rush myself. They got these people, like internal affairs or whatever they call S-I-S. They rush the cell. Boom, I'm working out and pull out the Jordans. I go into thing, the assistant warden is there. Now, this woman, shout out to the woman. She's like, tough, real tough.
Starting point is 01:24:43 So I say, hey, I was always nice to this lady. I don't know why I was always nice that anytime I passed that anytime I did something I was like hey I had that report so she says none of these people are your friends Joe
Starting point is 01:25:01 we got like 40 phone calls from the hotline talking about you got the Jordans so I'm like you know I'm not my friends she said do you know what we got in here I said no she said
Starting point is 01:25:15 such as such the leader to shower pies such as such as the leader of the guerrilla FARC army in Colombia such as such the king of war because it's Miami's the hub so if you're doing work out there
Starting point is 01:25:29 Jamaica Santa Domingo Puerto Rico the killers are all killers they throw them over it's Miami's the hug right and she said
Starting point is 01:25:39 and do you know every floor I go to whose fucking name I hear the most she said fat motherfucker fucking Joe I see, yo, what you want me to do? Like, I've been humble.
Starting point is 01:25:52 I don't get into arguments for nobody. She's like, Jody, not your friend. They called up, and she gave me a chance. Thank God. But that was, that was, you know, they all called on me. All you guys, you know who you are, they all called on me about the Jordans. But, you know, jail was different.
Starting point is 01:26:07 I don't advise nobody to go there. To me, it's like communism. It's a third world country. If your family don't send you no money, then you have no resort but to do, crazy things, man. But I was just thinking about that today. Because I don't try to think about that.
Starting point is 01:26:22 You know what I'm saying? Sometimes it can't escape your mind. Yeah, last night, I don't know. It's the simple things, man. I was just thinking about it because, you know, my whole life, I've been chasing the stunt. My whole life, I've been flexing. My whole life, since I'm a kid,
Starting point is 01:26:39 I've been trying to make a movie. And I just got, I started laughing when I thought about the eggs and the fucking, the pizza pie. I really stunted on them with the eggs. I always think about the late great DJ Clark Kent, super producer. Best and peace to my brother. God's favorite, man.
Starting point is 01:27:02 God's favorite. You know, this guy was the best in the world. He passed away. But I always think about when he said, because, you know, he did it all. Like, he was cool with Biggie, Jay-Z. Like, he put them on. He started with cool her.
Starting point is 01:27:18 He's seen his whole shit from hip-hop. that old, man. He's one of Cool Herk's original DJ. Superman Clark Kent was down with Cool Herk. That's how far he go back back. I met DJ Callet and DJ Nasty at a Ku, at a Clark Kent battle. He had a battle when we came up.
Starting point is 01:27:36 That's how I meant Callet online around Flojo time. And so he said that Biggie and Jay-Z, both his men and Biggie would be like, yo, why you say Jay-Z? But he used to tell Biggie that Jay-Z's better. right and biggie would be like how you think he's nice at him he'd be like yo because you're a rapper he's an emce he's like a poet he could you know this early jasy before all the hits he's a poet he's a poet whatever the case may be and so to me the difference of an emcee and a rapper is an emcee is
Starting point is 01:28:14 and you have huge uh hits too but you more you got your hand on the Dirt Rail, Taleb, Gualee, Jadakis, common. These are KRS, MC's. Rappers, what he's referring to, is the guys on Billboard, they crossed over, and we think they commercial. What do you think about that argument right there that he was having between Big and Jay-Z,
Starting point is 01:28:40 where Big was like, yo, I'm nicer than son. Boy, he was like, nah, Jay, nicer than you, he's an MC. Of course, this is before success. What do you think the difference between an MC and a rapper? I think an MC is just what it means. You know what I mean? You can troll in the maestro. You can do anything.
Starting point is 01:29:02 You have diversity. You have, you know, you can do different. You can do a beer commercial. You can do an R&B feature. You can do it all. A rap is just playing with words. You know, the ability to put words together. The MC can control the crowd.
Starting point is 01:29:20 he can he can he can he can have the crowd in his hands he can engage with the crowd yeah but nelly not just even the crowd would just hey it's all about the money now you're going into being an entertainer you know what i mean is an entertainer is a rapper is it mc oh is the song right now you got you know pop you got people that wrote the song that you never even see your mama yeah pock was everything that's a that's a fucking old pop got it all the tools of of everything. He was everything. He can do drama.
Starting point is 01:29:53 You can make music. Because I'm trying to find out who's the perfect one. Like, so you say pop, that's why I so many. That's like a Picasso. Yeah. It's like,
Starting point is 01:30:03 it's the best song right in the game. You got guys like, Hove, who would I love the door was talking about, you know, we kept the hottest vs,
Starting point is 01:30:11 then we play Monopoly with real cash and that big come on and shit. Right? Would you have an air for any of them like big song?
Starting point is 01:30:19 I was there for, hypnotized. I was there when he wrote with hypnotize. Was you there for I Love the Doe or anything like that? I was there for I loved it though. No! We was actually in the, we was in the middy room. You know what I mean? They both was there?
Starting point is 01:30:34 Yeah, it was none of it was no fucking emails and none of that there. You had to be there. So you seen them both going at it right there? It wasn't battling and none of that. They was trying to make a hit song, which they did. Did you see at the paper? We was mad. Did you see any paper in rhymes?
Starting point is 01:30:52 No. I didn't... It was all lost to top. No, listen. I didn't see... Listen, you didn't tell a real story or not. Everything I tell is real. You don't got a hood for a reason.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Listen, we was in the middy room. We was the young locks. And Hove kept coming in our room, like giving us an update of what's going on. Like, you know, I got to go first. This thing. And he's like, no, you go in there and kill that shit. Oh.
Starting point is 01:31:19 I mean. And he was probably going to the bathroom. Didn't he stop in the midi kicking with us? You know what I mean? And we actually seen Angela Wingbush. That's not a sample. That's her singing, I love the dough. We've seen her laying a hook.
Starting point is 01:31:37 We've seen Dan Max laying pray and pray for my downfall. That ain't a sample evil. We've seen them record that live. We wanted a fortunate artist to be featured on life after death. There's only a couple features on there. So we love Big Forever. I mean, we thankful to been around for the process of life after death and slightly before that.
Starting point is 01:32:01 It was a beautiful thing. But, yeah, we was in the studio the day they made. I was in the stew for Love the Dole. I think I was in the stew. I was there for a lot of them or when we would come for our session, we were here what he just did. Go on Kiss Good Night. A lot of them.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Of course, we were there. there for last days because we featured on. Yeah, but you know, when I think about, when we talk about the perfect MC, the perfect rapper, perfect performer, perfect performer, entertainer came up a lot today. I think DMX shows which one of them DMX songs. You was there every song he recorded.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Oh, I was there for a lot. Shut him down, open up shop. I don't think he wanted to do that. When Swiss first boarded to him, he didn't want to do it. He didn't want to do it. do that? I don't think, at first I don't think he was, like, happy to do it into it when it was done.
Starting point is 01:32:56 When I tell you, it was a major hit. And at this time, I was still halfway in the Bronx. So I'm at the car wash. And when I tell you, every single car, I don't care, it was a Spanish dude that would be playing salsa. They was playing that shit. Like, that song had me the disiest. You know how you go for them, bro? Where you go in Yonkers?
Starting point is 01:33:19 when you want to see if your record was popping. Like, Benjamin, you came outside. You go to Fordham. You go to Fordham, right? I used to do that. If I dropped the record, everybody like your joke. I stand to see who's playing my album, whatever. Up and down the hill, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Man, I have never witnessed in the history of the Bronx. Stop! Shut him down. Yo, I was dizzy. It was everywhere. Like, that was the craziest to me of standing outside trying to hear your song. That was that shit right there. And he didn't even want
Starting point is 01:33:53 to record that. I think Swiss had a little problem making them get a delay to once you find them with, the final mixing master version came out. And they knew what it was it. They knew what it was. You know when I went...
Starting point is 01:34:09 It shot the video. It was out of it. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
Starting point is 01:34:28 We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 01:34:52 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel,
Starting point is 01:35:31 help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen, Kingdom on.
Starting point is 01:35:52 earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levant this plant to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in.
Starting point is 01:36:57 I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions
Starting point is 01:37:22 everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis.
Starting point is 01:37:42 And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs' tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening. at Roland Garris, every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jen she went. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface, because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. So what would you listen to in the big game? Like you're going to playoffs.
Starting point is 01:38:35 That wheezy, man. I'm going to call at three dedication too. I'm rock in. That carter three changed by. That's all through like middle school, high school for me. So you're in college. That's all I was listening to. They're like, you're going to ever change this shit.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Hell love. I had a black ultimatons. That's all I was bumping. I think if I was a ball playing, I'm about to play a big game. I'm listening to some DMX or something. Yeah, I used to listen. I'm like, I want some shit.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Bring it! Will you ride here? We ain't going anywhere. Where you ride here? Like, I'm trying to listen to some shit like that. Yeah, I listen to like I'm me. And I'm me. You feel?
Starting point is 01:39:13 Like, you're in my zone. Like, I'm here. No, I'm with the car to three. I'm with everything Lil Wayne never did. In fact, Little Wayne, let's salute Wayne. Let's salute the game, right? Because when you listen to traditional West Coast music,
Starting point is 01:39:29 although Game could touch it, his sound has always been universal. It could be East Coast down, whatever. Game got a sound that could go everywhere, right? And with Little Wayne, he was the first guy to come, like, really straight out the south. Of course, you got Goody Mob, you got Andre 3,000, but that sounds like South music.
Starting point is 01:39:52 This guy was rapping to like hardcore beats, but was throwing these flows on the shit. It never been seen. I'll tell you one little Wayne story. We do the taking over with Calais. I thought I had everybody. When you see crack, better duck like the Mac got to eat fast.
Starting point is 01:40:10 They didn't want to sit. I don't get fuck. I'm running. I thought I had everybody on the, I heard everybody's verse. No, I don't think that all the time. I'm not. Not for sure.
Starting point is 01:40:21 I'm not. But you're always. You know. No, I don't always think that. I'm confident. No, no, there's some times. I know. It's going to be like that,
Starting point is 01:40:28 but at the time being, I don't think I'm the best. I make anthems. It is what it is. But that one record, I thought I had him, kiss. And then we go,
Starting point is 01:40:40 and I go with Charlie. He says, yo, come with me. Let's convince Wayne to get on the sweat. I said, no problem. We play it for Wayne. Wayne is in the studio. He's not even in the big studio.
Starting point is 01:40:49 He's, Upstairs in the hip factory, but upstairs, he got a room with just the whole shit of speakers. He's up in there, and he plays the shit. He's staring at the speakers. He gets in the studio in the booth. They crank it up. He goes, I am the beast.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Feed me hip hop or feed me beats. I'm on Lutz on Easy Street. Why are less on Easy? I said, motherfucker, why did I bring talent over here? begged this motherfucker to get on this record. Like, I begged you to get on New York. I don't know if you recall.
Starting point is 01:41:28 Fat Joe begged you to get on New York and send you that beat. Little Wayne, I begged him to get on taking over. I'm telling you the truth. Okay. I got you. I don't know. I don't recall.
Starting point is 01:41:41 No, I'm just telling you. That's what happened. I'm telling you what happened. Same thing with Lil Wayne. I go over there, yo, we really need you wheezy days. I am a beast Feed me hip hop I feed me beats
Starting point is 01:41:54 I'm wrapped on Dija tree Why I'm relaxed On easy street I was like I was crazy I walk out of that fucking studio
Starting point is 01:42:05 Dizzy my hip No it was Hello You're thinking Oh yeah Joe You know you gotta feel Like you're best No
Starting point is 01:42:13 I walked out of them stairs Like fuck Knowing I got destroyed on that shit I'm walking down the stairs like, Gallo's like, yo, we got it.
Starting point is 01:42:23 You heard what he said? I'm like, fuck out of here, bro. The motherfucker that destroyed my side like a motherfucker on this bitch. I thought I finally had these guys. He came,
Starting point is 01:42:33 nah, nah. Little Wayne, he's different. We're taking over. Montailles. He was a step ahead of everybody. I'm telling you guys,
Starting point is 01:42:47 you look at him and he's at the basket, beautiful. right? Little Wayne he was a step of heaven and he was a little bit faster he was a little he was a little it was something to him
Starting point is 01:43:00 where he dumb out he just you like that too but he dumb out like he just be like there and he ain't going to let go he's like a pit bull once he got you and you're like oh shit he just won't stop
Starting point is 01:43:13 he'll just keep doubling tripling quadrupling down on that shit come on man man was taking beats He was thinking about Jay-Z. What's the shit? He did over the Jay-Z beat. When Lil Wayne did that?
Starting point is 01:43:27 We didn't even know you could rhyme to that shit. With Jay-Z-B? Oh, no. He did one of them. I don't know what it was. He did one of them shit's over so legendary. The Little Wayne on there? I didn't know you could rap like that on that beat.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Like we did, he heard that. I thought it's crazy story, right? It's going to lead to a question for me. This one. This is a great. I like this. It's insane. It's an insane one, right?
Starting point is 01:43:56 But it's the truth. It's uncapable, right? So I got a friend, right? He passed away. We used to call him Joe Bentley because he owns so many bentons. When we go to Miami, we used to have all these drop-top Bentley.
Starting point is 01:44:13 This guy had too many bentons, like an Italian dude too much, right? He died, you said? He died, right? But I'm just telling you this story because I thought about it on the way here. I was like, who would be. But anyway, so this guy must have been the original capper.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Because, you know, everything I say is true. These people just ain't have an incredible life like this. So they can't comprehend the shit I'd be saying, right? So this man was the bigger capper than me. So every time he was so rich, but every time he would tell me stories, I'd be like, he was full of shit. told me he used to fuck, sit, share. One day he picks me up in my house in Miami,
Starting point is 01:44:54 he pulls up the Star Island, share opens the door and the boostier and this name. He comes the ass, walks in. Shit, you can't believe, right? So the man tells me that when O.J. Simpson was in the Bronco, he was in the airport with the private that O.J. Simpson is his man, right? He was the one waiting for him,
Starting point is 01:45:16 for him and AC Green to come on a private breakout. This guy He's telling me I don't count But the point is The man telling me all this shit The whole time I know
Starting point is 01:45:30 Yo Fendi I know he's I know he's my man He filthy witch But the shit He was telling me I could not believe Right
Starting point is 01:45:38 So one day It's his wife's birthday And he says Yo we're throwing His wife is named Nicole Joe Bentley His wife is named Nicole So he says
Starting point is 01:45:48 Yo we throwing her birthday party in my other house up in like where Trump lives, Palm Beach or some shit. We pull up. This shit got white horses. The guy had too much money. Right?
Starting point is 01:46:02 I go with the terrorist squad. It's me, Remy, Pistow Peter. This is why I got witnesses with this one. We go in there. O.J. Simpson is in the house. So Remy and Pistu start smoking blunts with them. They're having the best time with O.J. O'J was smoking?
Starting point is 01:46:21 Smoking Junk Blunts with Remy and Pistled, right? Remy said she even got a picture of that, right? So I go like, he's murdered two people. Smoking Blunts is easy. Yeah. You're right. You're absolutely. The moral to the story is when they came down to cut the cake,
Starting point is 01:46:38 happy birthday Nicole, Joe Bentley puts the machete in OJ's hand. He said, you did it, nigga, you did it. And OJ started chasing him around. the house with the fucking knife. Somebody got, y'all got to get an animator and turn these stories. No, I'm telling it. No, no, shout out to Mr. Commodore.
Starting point is 01:46:56 That's what we need. Mr. Camador just already start. You seen the shit he did? He did like when I robbed the gym. He played it over. He's white-faced with blonde hair, fat belly out. He's doing the Charlie Murphy. But listen to what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:47:11 OJ starts chasing him around the house with the knife. You say, you did it, man. You did it. The fucking... who would be the OJ Simpson of 2025 if somebody killed their wife or something like that?
Starting point is 01:47:29 What the fuck is he talking about? Who would stop TV? What are he talking about? Who would stop TV? If they was in the white bronco chasing them, they might allegedly kill their wife. In 2025, who's the celebrity? Any celebrity?
Starting point is 01:47:45 Any, no. No, that's murder. and fame? So you think any celebrity would have the TV going crazy? Yeah. So you ain't got one pick. OJ wasn't even a big celebrity
Starting point is 01:48:00 when that shit happened. He just was OJ. My pick is Tiger Woods. Tiger, because you got a white girl. It got to be a white girl, right? To make this shit go crazy. And white people... Where did this come from?
Starting point is 01:48:15 I thought he had a question for you. I do. He's the question. question. The question is, I was setting them up. Who's the OJ of this? Who's the 2025.
Starting point is 01:48:24 If a celebrity did some, allegedly did some shit like that, who would every channel turned on to? Anybody that killed too? But when you say that element,
Starting point is 01:48:35 now you talk about the white girl, is it has, does it have to be that element? No, I'm just thinking about how crazy it can get. Will Smith. From slap to murder.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Will Smith running is crazy. Oh, no, you might be tired. And Jazzy Jeff is driving. Jazzy Jeff is. And he got the orgs called. You see where I'm at. He's DJ driving. He's DJing while he's driving.
Starting point is 01:49:02 And as he's driving, it's in West Philadelphia, born and raised. Oh. Because I'm thinking Tiger Woods got the white wife. He's golf. The white people watch golfing. Because the white people love OJ. That's what made it so crazy. Right?
Starting point is 01:49:17 Yeah, but it's 2025. Black men murdering. white women don't have the same cachet. Yeah. Yo, yo, the views of this ain't. Yo, this is out of control. Let me tell you one of the funniest stories.
Starting point is 01:49:31 I ever heard. This thing is fair. When you did, the Mike Tyson and Eve at the awards, and you was like, yo, you got to take the bass out of the voice. Chill, Mike, chat. Dad's shit.
Starting point is 01:49:44 I told him that story. I don't know that story. One day Mike was talking crazy to Eve. Like what crazy? Out of this world, like, picture out, eat your kids and
Starting point is 01:49:58 I'll fucking your ass thing. Not like that. Not like that, but, man, no, he was saying that crazy shit to him. And you think you thought you're
Starting point is 01:50:06 going to look at like a steak instead of, you know, when you see something. You thought he was going to fuck you up? Listen. Listen to the story. You know when you see something
Starting point is 01:50:15 and you say something in your mind, he was doing that, but it wasn't in a, his mind. He was just, whatever he was thinking, he was saying it. And me, Stiles and Luch's like, somebody got to, somebody got to
Starting point is 01:50:30 be the crash dummy. Then we got to hawk. Somebody got to get their whole face broke. And then we're going to hawk them out of that. Sean Don. We did 20 first fingers about 20 million times. Nobody wanted to take the first thing. Yeah, but Mike was
Starting point is 01:50:46 telling that that crazy shit. I want to tell you I want to, I want to, he was saying that. crazy shit to it. And we, like, you know, he did that to Remy. But we was in his house. That's after she shot the girl before. That's before she allegedly shot the girl. She didn't during the time we went to his house,
Starting point is 01:51:03 he opened the door, ass naked. Grand Jury, she can't do that. He opened the door, ass naked. I was like your mind. No, no, I see your mic. You know, my wife is doing that. Yo, you got to have heart to tell Mike Jason, like, you know, my man, throw the towel on, man.
Starting point is 01:51:17 And I'm with some allegedly. You got his house, though. Yeah. I went to somebody like this. He was like, yo, Joe, you know this is the boxes. You let you know, my man, you got to stop. Then we go inside. And the type of things he was telling Remby, my, I felt pussy if I didn't, like,
Starting point is 01:51:38 address it. Like, I had to be like, yo, Mike. Oh, that might have to be around the same time. He was the same shit. Some horny demon shit. He was losing his fucking mind. He was just barking out. Yo!
Starting point is 01:51:50 Mike was like, yo, Joe, you know, he showed me a brand new bends. It was like a 500, some brand new shit. Never drove. He was like, yo, you just leave her here. You got the bends, you know. The shit was crazy. Like, I was like, yo, my man.
Starting point is 01:52:06 You just leave her here. Yeah, like, Terry shit. When he was looking at me, Remy's eyes looked at me, her eyes open so big. She was like, nigga, you better not leave me in this fucking place. I think her brother was with us too.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Everybody was looking like, yo, like, we're going to have to like pound Mike Tyson out. We have no pause, no choice. We're going to have to like, it's nothing we can do. Like he was like, yo, showed us the brand new band. Shit was like 150, 200. Nobody even had that shit right there. Maybe she still had the sticker. He was like, ah.
Starting point is 01:52:46 But we, she got to go with us. Mike, that shit was crazy. I was in the studio, I was big, though. For real, I just always wanted to ask you. It was a nigga. He had ball. He wanted, he never wrote. He needed his studio.
Starting point is 01:53:01 He wrote some time. I got to, he wrote no papers. I have a half of, I have like a quarter of. Oh. Smoking line optimo's. That verse, I got the other old paper. Can I buy that? Wow.
Starting point is 01:53:13 Hell, no. Yo, I can't lie to you. I never said that. I'm just, no. My kids births. No, I never, I never, I never said that. Look at that. You got some of pun?
Starting point is 01:53:24 Don't tell me you got some of pun. He said it first. I got it. I was with Biggie when he did hypnotize. Look at that. He was writing on paper. I was with Biggie's in the studio? No, bigger rights.
Starting point is 01:53:33 In the studio with Biggie Smalls when he did hypnotize. Somebody got a whole three verses of them written because even the shit I got is only a little bars than the rest. Got you. I seen him. By the way. By the way. Let me call.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Let me take. Let me take on. I'm turning it. You don't want me to get it on. That was my shit right there, too. Yeah, that's a day. Let's get a lot of this story. That 1800s, special looking guys.
Starting point is 01:53:57 We did last days, yeah, yo, we still in the hood. So we're in the hood selling crap. They call us, yo, I got to come to Daddy's house to get on Big Island. We still got joints on us. We go to, we used to me and Daddy's house with packs on. You can't be seasoned them, got fendie sweaters and all that, Chris style. We got arm and suits with packs on.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Oh, shit. Like, we won't be like them nigs. But anyway, we there. This day, we, we on a block, so we bring like three, four of our niggas with us. To get there, a big, cold mafia is there. Big got Branson, and he got the liquid hay sometimes. Oh, the weed Branson. Branson, a brand.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Yeah, shout out to Branson. Coming back up to me. A couple mayonnaise jars of Branson. And he used to sometime was a rare occasion. He'd get this liquid hash. That you got to put it on your fingers, smear it on the blunt first. Oh, we was fucking with the hot sheets back then, big? It's liquid.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Piny you're late. That's right in the bars. We're doing the verses. We find out that beat is from havoc. Niggas is hype. We're writing this shit. Everybody lay their verse. Niggas is high.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Niggas is knocking. Everybody in the whole studio is fucking cloud 77. Half beat. As soon as niggas is in a deep slumber, be I. Yo, let me go away and do my verse. Nigger went in and he was on a stool, but his leg was still hurt. Drop that shit It woke everybody up
Starting point is 01:55:20 Like they gave him smelling salt It's You're gonna You're gonna You're straight Superhero shit right there Bro If you know this
Starting point is 01:55:28 On life after death It's not that much features So yeah It was it It was young locks They'd be featured on there It was a nice accomplishment Man
Starting point is 01:55:36 Diddy should have that Nick bulletproof Man I still say that Biggie My favorite rapper I'll be fighting Oh big
Starting point is 01:55:43 That's my favorite That nigg shouldn't have been in Cali So niggas always look at it Like that No disrespect to no. See, it shouldn't have been to Canada.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Just got to keep it. No, no, no. Save it for your show. What? Save it for what? No, no. I'm only going to talk about. No, no, it's a good thing to talk about.
Starting point is 01:55:58 What's the fight? That was our first time ever in L.A. Hmm. I was with him. You was with it? He was silent. He was happy to beat it. It's not one of them.
Starting point is 01:56:08 I'm seeing all these shits on the ground. I'm seeing shit. Puff made him go there. He wanted to beat it. He was happy. He was happier than I haven't seen him. Gotcha. At Doughty's house over there.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Little C. He stole us the same thing. Even the party, listen, I know you get mad. Listen. I don't know. I don't talk right. You got to talk. You said your Hitchman story.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Let me say my Pia. I got you. I got you. Out to the party that you see, the last picture with the cane, the thing, him, Stevie J. Puff. We in there. We was mad.
Starting point is 01:56:38 I don't know what son happened with Puff. We was over there ice grill. We went over to him in that picture, you see, with the shades of the king. Him. Shake that shit off, he told us. It was my single release. Whatever's going on with Ditty, we handled it when we get back on.
Starting point is 01:56:54 It goes so Chris style or Don Pee, whatever was the thing. It was like two ounces. Say, go over there. Shmah, meag. Shake that shit, he ever said. And that was the last shit he ever said. Everybody left went to the party. That's when that shit happened next time.
Starting point is 01:57:11 What I could say to you is. But Park passed already. Why would you have them in L.A.? That's all I'm saying. Park was there already. You know the beef is. Listen, let you think about it.
Starting point is 01:57:20 It's a hard thing to say because I seen him. He was happy like Chris. He wasn't like the old thing coming to want to kill. That nigga was like, he was chilling. He was chilling.
Starting point is 01:57:31 I understand, but I just, in my mind, when I look at hip-op because we get to look at it. Now we get to look at being a little older. Now we're older. He should have been nowhere near that shit.
Starting point is 01:57:42 So y'all don't agree, but Pat just died. No, when we look at it now, yeah, Yeah, you're right. He shouldn't have been over there, but what they're trying to say, what him and Little C said on here was he wanted to be there. It ain't like we thinking, but forced the nigga to go.
Starting point is 01:57:58 They said he wanted to be there. It was negligent. I'd be each his own bottle of 1800. If I didn't speak to him. I've seen him. He told us with the, I mean, he told me, I see it. If I didn't, even yet, I peed with Yale. Because I love that, Nick.
Starting point is 01:58:17 It crushed me. My first time in L.A., B.I. shot. I still had a beeper. My mom's beeping me. The shit is bad. That's crazy. I ain't even know you was this.
Starting point is 01:58:25 It's all way down full nabs, but it's my mind's cold. Because he'd know you with big. Of course. Of course. That shit crush. When I go down that block, when I go to that light to this day,
Starting point is 01:58:34 I fucking shake. But I seen, I spoke. I was next to him. He was fucking in. He didn't seem like he was forced to be there. He was one of the happiest. I actually ever seen him in life. That boy.
Starting point is 01:58:46 over there. See, the reason why I'm so passionate about it, because I look at it, like, rappers are not... But they took one of our fucking dead. Rappers are not superheroes no more. Now street niggas are or shooters are or skim is our. Rappers are not superheroes. So when we came up, niggas were superheroes.
Starting point is 01:59:00 Big Elibonix. Fat Joe, jealous ones in view. Y'all dropping. And no disrespect to ditty, but no more shiny suits. Remember when y'all niggas were from that era to that, it was crazy. Summer Jam. Jay with Naz.
Starting point is 01:59:13 You know what I'm saying? Ether. We love the beef. So when you, look at Tupac and Big, that was like one of the most biggest beefs we knew. Like, I'm living by the radio and waiting for, I think Flex played it first. When Big played, who shot you? And me and motherfuckers be like, yo, that's not a disc record.
Starting point is 01:59:29 I'd be like, what? In my mind, when I was a nobody, I'm coming from Jamaica Avenue down Guy Brewer. And I'm like, oh, I'm waiting near the radio to hear, who shot you? And I'm like, oh, this shit is hard. Who shot you? I remember when that shit dropped, records was exclusive. One DJ are having. Y'all niggas are dropped.
Starting point is 01:59:45 Maybe one DJ. two DJs will have it. You know what I'm saying? So let's not act like in the rap game we don't like beat. Because just now. It's been from since the beginning of the time. We love it.
Starting point is 01:59:57 K.R.S. 1 to FECD. Who will be in the world. Biggests start dying. It's always been beat. That's when it gets fucked up. Yeah. That's what it gets fucked up. The difference is, let me tell you the difference is. So you said hip hop police.
Starting point is 02:00:09 Like, so hip hop police, yeah, they want to put 50 in jail. But the bulletin board don't You got 50. You got you, your best friends. Of course. You got the niggas. They be with y'all.
Starting point is 02:00:21 The this, this, that. And they're waiting for them to make the mistake to run that RICO. Of course. Right? So you got to understand that it's the entourage. You understand? They feel like they're impressing you. Y'all'm going to go pop this.
Starting point is 02:00:36 You know how many times I had to talk people off the cliff? Like, guys crying for me like, please, he's at the club right now. Cherry lounge, let me let them go. I'm like, yo, bro, the whole world knows we have beef with this guy. The planet, Earth, if you lay them out, then that's for life. We would have been here 20 years later. Like, you know he did it. The top five greatest hip-hop songs ever.
Starting point is 02:01:12 I'm going to let you set it off. I'm going to let you set it off. I hate you. And, you know, artists produces. stop getting fucking mad. We love all of y'all. If we don't fucking pick that song or whatever, it's more than five.
Starting point is 02:01:28 Y'all keep up popping shit. Like, yo, stop. I love all of y'all. Y'all all are supposed to be the greatest of all time. You're forcing me to do this. He's going to pick five. I'm going to pick five.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Rob base do not call me and curse me out tomorrow. When this shit drop. You got the right to, because it takes two. It takes two. It takes two. I try to get it. It could be, you know what I'm saying? There's millions of them, though I don't want to.
Starting point is 02:01:52 He victimizing me, making me do this. That's right. That's right. Top five biggest hip-hop songs of all time. You see why this is a bad thing? Because it goes off your age. I can say five in this. Somebody didn't a new version did.
Starting point is 02:02:13 But it's okay. That's not fair. It's okay. Our demographic is, people are age, real hip-hop, and then we got some young kids who really want to know the real. The top five hip-hop songs of all time.
Starting point is 02:02:28 How the fuck am I supposed to know? I don't know, but what you think when you heard or you hear it and you just like, yo, this is the biggest shit ever. See, I'm trying to think of since I ever first heard hip-hop to now. Oh, now that's hard. I got nothing but clustered.
Starting point is 02:02:46 No, that's hard. I'm drawing white noise. Why don't you go first? Damn, you said, this is your, this is your, this is your, this is what,
Starting point is 02:02:55 this is all you right here. You go first. I'll say hip hop hooray, naughty by nature. I'll say still Dre. That's where it gets tricky.
Starting point is 02:03:10 I'll say, I'm just saying biggest hip-hop shit. You get caught up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. I'll say New York, Alicia Keys, and Jay-Z.
Starting point is 02:03:24 Right? Bouncing around years. Ah, you made it easier for me. I like this. Because I could easily. That's three? What are you at? What three or four?
Starting point is 02:03:34 What three I said? What three I said? New York hip-hop array in-in. New York. Alicia Keys. I think we got the best New York hip-hop record. I'm just saying, name the five-a-ray.
Starting point is 02:03:46 crap. Hip-hop array won the first... Hip-O-R-Rae! Hip-O-Rae! Hip-O-Rae won the first Grammy for the first Grammy for the rap album for a rap album
Starting point is 02:03:57 in 1926. Look at that hip-hop fucking hooray. Okay, I got hip-hop array. I got... What was the second one I said? Still Dre. Right? Um, you know, you hit them
Starting point is 02:04:12 pianos, huh? And then we got New York! You got Hoving, two of the greatest songs of all time. He on two of the greatest songs of all time. You're only on three, though. You got two more. Biggie hypnotize. Biggie hypnotize.
Starting point is 02:04:34 Right? And fuck it. I'll go cliche. I'll go Tupac Dear Mama. Wow. I need a. I'm not. You did all, there was his old fucking top 10 songs.
Starting point is 02:04:49 I can't be maddened. You're talking about of all times, right? Yeah. You think I just hit a certain age group? There's no way to be right or wrong. I think those songs is fucking. That's exactly the point. There's no way to be right or wrong.
Starting point is 02:05:06 So my people don't call me and curse me out. Every time I do a producer, every time I do it is, every time I do it at, they want to fucking kill me. Like, yo, I love everybody, man, but I'm just telling you hip hop parade. Oh, hey. Oh, I'm talking about hypnotize. New York.
Starting point is 02:05:32 This thing is fucking me. I'm talking about the biggest shit. He fucked me up. I don't know, man. I mean, say nobody take nothing because I don't like doing these. So I'm on y'all side But y'all call him and flip on him
Starting point is 02:05:47 And everybody called crack Because this is his idea But if I got to give you five I can't And I'm gonna try One of them got to be something from Snoop What? Gin and juice
Starting point is 02:06:00 Or the G thing Or one of them shit Is definitely one of Snoop and Dre Together got one of I don't know which one Take your pick That's one
Starting point is 02:06:12 for count that as one. Right? Now, run DMC, king of rock. Oh. I got to be one because that's one the first songs I've heard in my life.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Now that's what's set it off. I'm up to three. Now, the other one was, you got to make your own one. I gave you, Dre and Snoop is one. One of these shit is one. I'm cheating,
Starting point is 02:06:41 but I got, he's cheating. He's cheating. He's cheating. choice. He ain't go specific with it. I said gin and juice or G thing. Those is, take your back. Man,
Starting point is 02:06:50 you know, one, two, two and to that fall. That's two of all times. We got to be clocked the timer in here. Yeah, because this is it. Yo, y'all, Jada, man, this shit. You got, I mean, what else? I mean, you got a whole bunch.
Starting point is 02:07:12 Asked Scott one, too. I don't know which one it is. Look. That's the stop, drop, shut them off on them up that. What you call them as bigger than that? What? That'll make me lose my mind. Y'all going to make me lose your ass.
Starting point is 02:07:29 That shit rips out the... Up in here? Up in here. Y'all going to make me go all out. You know what's crazy with that song? The hook is so top 40. The verses is disres. The verses is saying the most crazy.
Starting point is 02:07:44 And I'll suck my dick. When it went in one thing, gun thing. Like, yo, he's going crazy. Verses is great. You know, we had a thing. Let me shout out Cool and Dre. We had a thing. We would make, we would kill them on the verse and make them dance on the hook.
Starting point is 02:08:03 We would always do that. You got to stop giving the formulas out. Don't tell these people that. When I'm up to three or four, man. You're up to three. Yeah, me. Now I'm up to four. Y'all gonna make me lose my mind.
Starting point is 02:08:18 Oh, I'm leaving shit out. I think one of the... See, I... Don't hold me... Don't quote me, boy, because I ain't said shit. NWA got one, too. They didn't pick you. Fuck the police.
Starting point is 02:08:32 If you're every one you want, that's one. NWA. I'm just... They got one. Biggest of all time? Biggest... NWA one? You don't question my... NWA!
Starting point is 02:08:43 Count this. than fuck the police? That's why I just give you NWA. They got one of them, one of them shit, they got bigger than, I got switched demographics. I sit alone in my four-corner.
Starting point is 02:08:59 Ooh. That's it. Oh, whoa. I got millions of more, but I just had to be a lot. I wanted to be diverse with my picks. I got the whole production there and singing that in the back. Listen, man,
Starting point is 02:09:15 I was hustling. I was in the street hustling, and my brother told Montana pull up in the red truck, the Wrangler truck. He looked at me. I swear to God, this is like a movie. He pulled over. I'm on the block watching the shit.
Starting point is 02:09:32 I don't want to say what block, but I'm on the block watching. And he ran up to me, and his face looked like a movie. This is my best friend, rest of the piece, and he running like, he had to tell me something crazy. So I'm like, yo, tune, what's up?
Starting point is 02:09:46 You say, yo, come here. Come here, please, come here. And the man pressed play. Because he had the system. Boom, bum, bum, bum, bum. I sit alone in my fork on the room, staring at. We started dancing around this truck. When they played my mind's playing tricks on me,
Starting point is 02:10:07 dancing around it, like, yo, this shit is great. And every drug dealer felt like paranoid. You felt like, I took the feds everywhere I go. That's why I'm paranoid. Like, everybody living that life. You know. That was one of them ones. Nah.
Starting point is 02:10:25 So let me get Jada's all. What, did you write down Jada's Five? Look, it ain't, it's other songs bigger than mine than his. One? We're just saying, he says some big. 50, go, go is one of the biggest songs I have me. Go, go. What, in the club?
Starting point is 02:10:43 50 is your birthday. It ain't nobody in the world that don't know that song. You could go, niggies that can't talk, know how to sing. I'm just saying, I agree with you with that.
Starting point is 02:10:53 You know what I'm saying? With the 50 cents, damn, that was a good one. That should have made some shit, right? Yeah, that shit is. Nah, nah, nah, it's your birthday. That's the Cheeco. You don't have to be able to talk
Starting point is 02:11:06 and you can sing that. That's the Cheeco. But what did we do? What did I pick? What Jay to pick on the top five? So Jada just ran down. It was either you had, let's go boy, King of Rock, I run DMC. Pick a snooper, Dre, G-thing, or I think G-thing would be the one.
Starting point is 02:11:26 Maude's playing tricks on me, DMX up in here, and then NWA, fuck the police, or... Paul Compton. What did I pick? New York? Yo, you got to stop. No, you shoot in my late. That's one of my favorite. That's one of my favorite songs.
Starting point is 02:11:48 You kidding me. Yo, your man violating my shit right here. We both picked some main shit. Tater be on that bullshit. He threw the hoodie over. He's like, dude, y'all. He over here and picking. I stand alone in the fork on the room with up.
Starting point is 02:12:03 For when I don't got one. Those are missiles. Those are. If I operate, Biggie Huttmatized, Snoop Dogg. I said still Dre. I went still Dre. and then I went, was Tupac,
Starting point is 02:12:17 dear mama. That was great. Those is great. Ove give it to me is one of them sheds too. They know that shit everywhere and anywhere you could go on with human beings.
Starting point is 02:12:27 And then we're going to both agree honorary should be in there is the in the club. It's mad people. 50 set. In the club is definitely one of the things. The club is like the biggest disrespect
Starting point is 02:12:40 ever created. You know, we start disrespect. And we go, do-to-to-to-to-to-d-d-d-d-d-d-t. Yeah, bus is back. What the dilly's the-sat-a-old. What's supposed to be on. Sitting in the ice-grilly, what the dilly.
Starting point is 02:12:53 There's a lot of people are supposed to be on me. A baby, if you give it to me, I'll give it to you. You know what I want. You know I got it. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news?
Starting point is 02:13:08 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.
Starting point is 02:13:21 But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.
Starting point is 02:13:42 I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. We could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, Nell's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?
Starting point is 02:14:24 We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian business business.
Starting point is 02:14:47 man catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levant this plant to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know.
Starting point is 02:15:19 Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo.
Starting point is 02:15:46 Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them.
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Starting point is 02:17:11 Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. What's up with that conversation you had with pushing? Brutiful. See? I want to hear it. Beautiful. I want to know what's going on. You know, I come from a universal man-speaking language, right?
Starting point is 02:17:30 If I say to you, kiss, yo, giant don't call me back. The minute you're supposed to see Giants, you're supposed to say, oh, giant, why don't you call them back? But if I say to kiss, yo, between me and you, or off the record, Giant don't call me back, the minute you see John, you've got to close your mouth. But I've brought up that conversation. This is from 4 o'clock in the morning to 2 o'clock in the afternoon, I'm the sharpest you can ever speak to. I'm the sharpest.
Starting point is 02:18:01 Like I'm up in the morning. I'm doing push-ups. I'm running. I'm trying to get my life together. Like I'm sharp. He calls me 6 o'clock in the morning. So I remember this conversation to the teeth. To the teeth.
Starting point is 02:18:13 And he called me and he was the first time I ever seen push her all. these years, like kind of have emotions. Like, he was like, yo, how our boy did that? So in case you don't know what I'm talking about, Raelle picked, he said both on drink, quick time with slime, Drake or Pusha T. He said both. Puscher called me and was like, yo,
Starting point is 02:18:31 it was the first time I ever heard Puscher, like, raise his voice. He was like, yo, you think 40 from OVO would have said the same? And I'm just sitting there. So when I'm bringing up this conversation with Puscher, I'm bringing this up in honor. I'm like, yo, that was honor. that he shared that with me. I wasn't trying to...
Starting point is 02:18:48 So what I'm trying to say is when that conversation happened, later on in that conversation, there was things that I brought up, and I said, it's off the record. This is off the record, or this is between me and you.
Starting point is 02:19:01 Because let's just talk about what we were talking about. Pussel, who is famous, called Norrie, who is famous, about a producer, Farrell, who is arguably more famous than both of us,
Starting point is 02:19:13 right, about a conversation one of the most famous people on the planet. Drake! And this all happened on drink chairs. So I assumed that this part of the conversation wasn't off the record because we later on addressed that and said, like I said, I'm sharp from 3 to 2 p.m.
Starting point is 02:19:34 I'm the sharpest in the world. I remember this shit verbatim. He never said that. So if I blew that up as a man, my bad. If I blew that up. But I didn't think I did. Like, at the end of the day, no matter what, your media now. I got to tell you that.
Starting point is 02:19:51 Joe, hold on, off the record. Like, I just told you about the smoke champ shit. You see how you used that on me? No, you see that on it. You see that on it. You're gonna fuck. That was a person to do. Oh, man, family.
Starting point is 02:20:03 I knew it was something weird. No, no. That was hard. That was hard. He did his job. He did his job. That's exactly what he's supposed to do. That's exactly.
Starting point is 02:20:12 I'm trying to get this guy to $100 million. Yeah, yeah. I've never seen the guy I'm trying to. get the $100 million. Crucify me on every show. No, you're doing your job. That's how we're going to get the $100 a lot. You're doing your job?
Starting point is 02:20:23 I'm seeing what I'm going to smoke, drink, chance. I'm trying to do all this before. So hold on, let me finish. So let me finish. So with Pusia, like Puscha, you know, I knew him since they they called them Terry, Terrence.
Starting point is 02:20:35 You know what I'm saying? Like, it's bad. This is my family. So, you know, they laughed it off. You know what I sent him a text like, you know, I'm coming back. I'm saying, like that type of shit. But let me, let me make this clear.
Starting point is 02:20:51 That's my family. They've got the best album right now. I'm still working out to it. I was offended that he said I clout chased when he said everyone, he said, you know, it's album time, you know, everyone wants to clickbait. I just want to address that part. That part, I don't need clickbait. They come every month.
Starting point is 02:21:08 My work is good. It speaks for itself. It speaks for itself. I don't have to clickbait. So that part I want to address. But other than that, I can't say. But other than that, if I in any way, shape, form of fashion, blew up something that I wasn't supposed to blow up.
Starting point is 02:21:22 As a man, I apologize. That's right. I'm a real way. But I don't think I did. Now, I can say to the two people that still believe I'm not cap, by who thinks I'm real, I've had two. I'm fucked up. I'm so cap a lot now.
Starting point is 02:21:39 You should be captain good. I'm capped with broken leg. I'm like, they fucking me up. You're not catching this shit. You are not. I'm catching everything. And you weapon saying the fuck you. They tap me. Every time you do
Starting point is 02:21:51 like this, they're like, yeah, Jada got our back. He knows Joe Cappin. This nigga lying again this. But for the two people, the 1% of America, I've had so many deep conversations with Norrie that you can't even believe. He has never
Starting point is 02:22:07 repeated. I've never repeated. I have to say with Norley. Thank you. Thank you. What I can say is, if he knew If you couldn't say that, he wouldn't do that. You know, that's, I've had too many conversations.
Starting point is 02:22:22 Don't for conversations. I want to tell, I want to say what else. Like, this was, can we say what else? No, no,
Starting point is 02:22:28 definitely not. You know, we ain't it. We're not the time. Every time we try to fix it. Every time we try to fix it. You try to rip it back off. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:40 You know, listen, now's the time. Yeah. To really. get this over with one shot to you. That's what he did. What's your saying? Yeah. We've had
Starting point is 02:22:52 conversations in 20 years and 20 years. This is all deep the conversation. Like sometimes you don't realize the relationship you have with a person and how long you know what a person to a person. Like I was in grinding. I was on grinding. I was on grinding. I was on the remix and I'm in the video.
Starting point is 02:23:05 Like you said, lean back. So it's like if it's a misunderstanding, I get it. And I get why he didn't call me first because what I did was publicly. So he had to respond publicly. So that's why I'm responding publicly. But it's all love.
Starting point is 02:23:21 But at the end of the day, that's not who I'm not a person who chases clout. I'm a person who has integrity. I have a person who has integrity. I have morals. And I'm very, very creative. I'm too creative to bite anybody else to stay. I've always been my own style. I've always stayed in my own lane because it's never been trafficked here.
Starting point is 02:23:39 But Norrie, let me ask you. You understand? Are you professions before I even get to my rap? What was you and the staff? Shout out to B. Cox. Shout out to everybody. What was, what kind of zone? What did y'all set out to do?
Starting point is 02:23:58 If y'all just say, yo, we're about to cook up some shit and go diamond and take over the whole, every piece of the world. Y'all accomplished that to the T. I don't think that's what y'all did. No, not. Well, I mean, you got, so we had 87 or one first before confession, right? Shout out to that. That would definitely.
Starting point is 02:24:16 Yeah. So, so 87. 701, we wrote, you got it bad. So you got it bad, the successor you got it bad was just like, was the beginning of it. Like, it was like, okay, listen, we make, after you got a bad success, we went back in the studio for confessions. The mentality was that we had to finish off what we thought you got it bad did, right?
Starting point is 02:24:38 So, um, she was talking about a song, like he felt like his relationship was going through this situation and he wanted it to burn out, like just let it burn out. I'm going to have to go through the pain. And he was telling me this. And I couldn't really grasp what he was saying because I had going through that type of situation. But I was trying to, and I was trying to figure it out. And he told me this, and then he left. And I sat there for a minute and I stepped thinking about it.
Starting point is 02:25:03 I'm like, let it burn. And I kept saying like, oh, okay, when you feeling, nobody, you know, I started trying to figure out what the words were. And then I got it And I call him back I said I got it I got the hook So he came back to the studio And we did let it burn first
Starting point is 02:25:25 Right We did let it burn first And then He started saying he was going through this thing Where he couldn't really work in Atlanta Let's go to LA And I'm like Nah here we go
Starting point is 02:25:36 This is bullshit I thought we was Everybody go through a phase You think he's going to block His own blessings right? I'm like here we go I'm thinking about me because I'm like a I want to be where I can grab all the records that I need any ideas.
Starting point is 02:25:51 It's all in my studio, right? For me, as far as being creative, I don't want to go nowhere because I know I'm going to forget something. I'm going to leave somewhere. I can't find something. Yeah, right? So he's like, let's go to L.A. And I'm like, ah, shit, cool.
Starting point is 02:26:05 I'm going. We go to Brandon's way. And we get out there. And my man that was with me, he was talking to me about. girls and side girls and relationships and this, that and third. And I just kept saying, that's, you just, that's all bad. Like, everything you're talking about is all bad. And Usher came to the studio and we started talking about some things, but then he left.
Starting point is 02:26:29 And all I kept, remember, he was like, yo, I, let's, let's come back tomorrow. And I was like, man, no, I can't let L.A. beat me. I get like a writer's block. I feel like I got a writer's block, basically. And, you know, it's really, really bothering me because I have. felt like it was going to happen when I got to LA. So I'm... Not to cut you off.
Starting point is 02:26:49 That happens to me in LA. I need a... I can't just go there and go straight to the studio. I got to cry. I got to be... I got some shit got to happen. I can't... I don't got the same fluidity in the studio in L.A.
Starting point is 02:27:04 that I got anywhere else. And I don't know what it is. It takes a while for me to get... I can't just go there and be kiss off the rip. I never really successfully wrote in L.A. Never. Me, myself. Never hit one out the park in L.A.
Starting point is 02:27:21 Yeah. Like, you know, I wrote shit there, but it wasn't. Blackout was recorded in L.A. on X album. This is it right here, man. That's probably. No, he was recording out there. I'm talking about for me. One of X album is the best I was able to.
Starting point is 02:27:39 So, yeah, so I'm going through this thing, and I'm struggling. I'm like, I told an engineer, give me a copy of the beat. We made the beat, man, because he made the beat. And I think, I know, I know the beat right. I just don't, I ain't got the words. I can't figure it out. And I, and I'm thinking about saying stuff that I don't think Usher's going to want to say, right? So I'm thinking like that, he ain't going to do this because this ain't what his life is, right?
Starting point is 02:28:05 He ain't going through this. So I'm like, but that's what I want to say, but I'm thinking like, this ain't going to work. So I take the beat and I get in the car. and I'm getting in the car I'm riding down Melrose and I'm thinking like I swear I knew I'm thinking I'm thinking like
Starting point is 02:28:23 shit I ain't got the words I can't so I start thinking about usual suspect right Kaiser Sojay was in the jail he had the words for the story he just started looking for the words
Starting point is 02:28:36 on the board and try to create the story so I'm like I'm gonna try this and that's what I've started doing I'm looking at signs on Lelrose, all kind of shit going. Right? So I get to the light. I think on third, and the Beverly
Starting point is 02:28:49 son is in front of me. And that's when I say, every time I was in L.A., I was with my ex-girlfriend. Every time she called me, I told him, Gravy, I'm working, no. How was I doing my work? I was hand-in-hand in the Beverly Center like, like, man, not giving the damn, who sees me?
Starting point is 02:29:03 And I'm thinking, like, oh, and I'm just grabbing this. Everything I see, I would have never said the Beverly Sun in that song if the Beverly Center wasn't in front of me. I'm trying to do the Kaiser-Sose shit, right? So as I get through that verse, I'm like, I'm like, I got it. And so everything is everything, everything I've been doing is all bad.
Starting point is 02:29:21 I got a chick on the side with a crib and the ride up and telling you some of the life. It ain't nothing good. It's all bad. I just want to confess. And that's where confessions came from when me saying. I just want to confess all of this shit that I've been doing is bad. And we ain't have confessions.
Starting point is 02:29:34 That if I want to say that I want to confess to you, everything that I've been doing is bad. So it's like my time I'm saying, this is going to be the first R&B record where the nigger actually tell a girl fuck it yeah you ain't got even ass yeah I'm fucking her
Starting point is 02:29:49 this what I'm doing I got a crib on the side chick on the side with a crib on the ride up telling you so many lies ain't nothing good it's all bad I ain't always going
Starting point is 02:29:59 I just felt like that song feels so good to this day that's so that was the beginning right that was the beginning I had to drive all the way to Malibu because everybody had left the studio
Starting point is 02:30:10 and I couldn't record I had to remember I had to memorize all of this Yeah, I had to keep going, right? So the next day, it's like, we got to hurry and get to the studio. So I put it down, put it down. You ain't write it down. No, I'm driving and writing in my head.
Starting point is 02:30:22 I forget too much. So we get back, we do all bad. And then Mark Pitts, like, what happened after, you know, after this situation? What happened with the chick on the side? Then it hit me. It's like, oh, damn, she got pregnant. This is like my real life. Right?
Starting point is 02:30:42 The chick on the side. it pregnant. I know this story. Like, I really know this story. I ain't got to write this. Right. So that's when we're like, okay, I'm like, shit, this is going to be part two? And part two became these on my confession. And if we
Starting point is 02:30:57 wouldn't ever got to that, if we went to day. So we did a part two of a song that never even came out. Wow. So that was part two. That's part one. That was the response. Yeah. And you ain't even do the first one. Well, we did it, but it didn't come out.
Starting point is 02:31:12 LA didn't put all bad on the first. He didn't put it on the album. He put it on the, you know, me on the re-package. You know, you name it some big names, right? So you're saying L.A. Reed, you're saying Mark Pitts. Who decides what comes on the album? L.A. read. I mean, you know, at that time, Arreston, you know, that was his...
Starting point is 02:31:29 He'd be like, I want this. I want that shot. That's his job. That's what he's thing. And that was his space. Like, L.A., you know, putting the albums together. That was his space. I just saw like an old interview with R. Kelly.
Starting point is 02:31:41 and he said he would do like a hundred songs and listen to all of them and pick out the 12 on the album. Like, you know how hard that shit had to be? Yeah. To like, there's probably some gems left on the floor, right? But that's what I'm saying. Like, I never even understood
Starting point is 02:32:00 why L.A. didn't even put both versions. He ain't put it all bad. I'm like, you know, as crazy is that people are going to listen to this and they're hearing the second story, they don't even know where it came from. But I couldn't figure out how it worked. I was genius. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 02:32:17 It was like crazy genius. Yeah. So that was the beginning of confessions. I think big pun, right? If you think about it though, J.D., that's how movies. Sometimes they make you watch the movie back. Yeah. That's a fact.
Starting point is 02:32:30 You know, in my Kadesh, they got a little man. Have you ever seen the little men like this? Come on, man. We have one in Jimms. Come on, dog. Yo, I'm telling you the truth. Oh, crack. Has anybody?
Starting point is 02:32:44 Has anybody Somebody help me He said it's a man This Let's say Our fans in Moro French Montana knows him
Starting point is 02:32:52 French Montana is from Morocco I told him He knows him It's a man this little I need you To see how small he's saying Let me his face Son of you
Starting point is 02:33:02 Like What size organs do he got Yo give me this shit I promise you This shit The Rewinded Box Hold up No
Starting point is 02:33:12 No Yo come on Isn't he the Kiss Cafe? Let me get the Kiss Cafe. Let me get the Kiss Cafe. Listen, let me tell you something. You seen him human beings? This man will be ducking behind this shit in real human life.
Starting point is 02:33:28 It's a grown man. It's not even now. You, listen, he's a grown man with a suit. A suit. No, no. Nah. Yo, do you. Yo, the man job.
Starting point is 02:33:38 Oh, I'm capping. Go to my cadets. Yo, look him up. He just. Yeah. I promise you. He said he got a suit on. Yo, we had a Dominican.
Starting point is 02:33:48 Come on, we had a Dominican named Nelson that passed away, rest in peace. He used to come to Jimmy's Bronx Cafe. The man was this big. Come on, yo, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 02:33:59 Yo, listen. He's definitely not bigger than the Kiss Cafe. I've been to Manchu. Oh, no, no, no. There's nobody was this big, though. Yo, there's a little man in Morocco. He's still alive in Makadesh. Okay, we want y'all to send us pictures
Starting point is 02:34:15 To the Joe and J to Instagram Because y'all be thinking I'm capping He won't be hiding behind this shit This is at least Three fourths of his body Yep, come on, dog Please There's no way
Starting point is 02:34:31 What's that sneaking No no no no no no I'm not a myth I am not a myth al-a-hahmda-la i am not a myth i got a ghost i got a guy's killing let's see if french picks up he got hide yo i bet you they sent it to us french ain't pick up let me tell you something i'll tell you we had a dominican one named nelson he passed away yo he used to be a jimmy he jumped from the table to the chair to the this you never seen it i'm not violating
Starting point is 02:35:07 in no way can anybody get us a picture of nelson or Nelson will be found. You guys are going to make sure I'm not capping. The guy who does the clips, you're going to find pictures of Nelson. You're going to find pictures of the man in the Macarach. Because they say I'll be capping. There's a little man. I can't take it.
Starting point is 02:35:30 Well, I never seen a little woman like that, right? I've seen a little man like that. I've never seen a woman like that. How big is he? He's hot and me. This shit. Yo. Yo.
Starting point is 02:35:44 Yo, listen. Listen. I need an emily. I need, yo, dog. He's hiding. His face might just go, like, peek over this shit. Like, it's a little man with a suit. Yo.
Starting point is 02:35:59 Yo, dog. He's killed me. Rewinded 10, CVS, Sally Beauty. Go get it. A little man with a soup. Kiss Cafe. Go get your stuff. Kiss Cafe.
Starting point is 02:36:08 All right, you think I'm lying. Nah. All right. I'm just. Let me tell you. Let me tell you something. Other people say shit for clickbait, content, shit like that. I say facts all the time.
Starting point is 02:36:22 And when we do the clip, you're going to see the little man. Two of them. I know a Dominican one Nelson. Yo. He passed away, rest in peace. Rest in peace, the Nelson, man. But the other man from Morocco is alive. And French knows him.
Starting point is 02:36:38 French Montana knows him. You got kids? I don't know. Yo, come on. I'm not gonna go there with you. He's got a girl. I'm sure he got a girl. They think he's cute and all that.
Starting point is 02:36:47 The man's a little scrungy. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Yo, what's the toy they selling over and out now? For the girls, everybody's getting them toys. The boo-boo. The boobo. Yeah. The girl, woman can have her own, the boobo.
Starting point is 02:36:59 The man. The man. Yo, let me tell you so. The picture surfaces is, it is... No, no, it's happening. I'm not lying to you. Nelson? You found Nelson.
Starting point is 02:37:10 Nelson. Who you found? From Morocco, let me see. We got him. We got him, bro. No. I tell you I don't cap, man. I'm not fucking capping, bro.
Starting point is 02:37:21 No. Yo, kiss. I don't let you look at him first. Just make sure that's it. Look at my man. Yo! Oh shit. Oh, fucking shit.
Starting point is 02:37:30 Look at my man. Yo, look. Look at him sitting on a watermelon. Look at this shit. Oh, shit. Oh, I told you. This is a... My guy.
Starting point is 02:37:43 I'm not lying to you. This my guy. He's on a watermelon. He ain't bigger than the watermelon. Look at this shit. I told you. Kiss, I told you. But he ain't... No, no, he's puny.
Starting point is 02:37:56 Put the Kiss Cafe. That's shit half his body, bro. He's on a watermelon like that's a building. Y'all, come on, Kiss. You're trying violent. Do you let this guy? I know him from my cadets. How big is he for real? He'll hop, like he'll hop from the table to the chair, hop down.
Starting point is 02:38:16 You'll help him. The No Cap Award. You see this shit? The No Cap Award goes to crap. This a man. Yo, look at him. You're sitting on a watermelon. I'm crazy, you know.
Starting point is 02:38:30 I try to tell you. He's a grown man. He's a man. A grown man be wearing suits and shit. Go away. He do got a little button up on. He got a little pole. Oh, button up.
Starting point is 02:38:43 Look at the little sneakers, man. You ain't seen... You know, this thing's crazy. I've been around the world. I'm trying to tell you. Ladies and gentlemen, I don't want to hit nothing. He fouled the little guy. Yo, but look at the pineapple.
Starting point is 02:38:57 I need Nelson. Half his body. If you get Nelson... No, Nelson is the Dominican. He died. Look up Nelson. Nelson is out there. Nelson used to hang with us in the Bronx.
Starting point is 02:39:07 I'm telling you. Yo, dog. You know, the pineapple. You know. You had him in Morocco? Yeah. French knows him. That's it.
Starting point is 02:39:15 French knows him by name and everything. When I tell French, you know the little guy, he'll say his name real quick. That's why I called him. I was like, you know. He's a grown man. No, he's a grown man. He ain't the small. He ain't this, ladies and gentlemen, he ain't this size, though.
Starting point is 02:39:31 What size is he? The pillow? Look at this guy. He don't know. The fucking pineapple was to his neck. That's crazy. Who is he? His body is half of the past.
Starting point is 02:39:43 Yeah, I try to tell you, that boy be hot and behind Kiss Cafe. He'd be like this. I told you. Yo, that's hard, man. He made it. It's real talk. He got to put him on the screen. Yo, that's crazy, though.
Starting point is 02:39:58 That's the illest. Yo, is that crazy or not? With the suit. What kind of suit? What kind of suit do you have? Oh, a money suit. Oh, look at the lady on him. No, no, look, he got the suit.
Starting point is 02:40:11 Look, kiss. Yo, he got the suit. What? Yo, look at the lady on him. He got his soap. No, I'm dead ass. Yeah, look. He got the suit.
Starting point is 02:40:21 He be rocking suits and bowtie all this shit. I can't take it. I'm not lying. Yeah. We got to have an EMS on the side, man. You got Nelson? You felt Nelson? Yeah, come on, man.
Starting point is 02:40:36 Let me see Nelson. I give up already. Yo, listen, Boots. Who's bigger? Nelson to him. Get yourself a boost. Yo, give yourself a boost moment. You see you looking at Nelson?
Starting point is 02:40:44 Did you look at my other man that was sitting on the water in Melody? Who's alive? My Kardashian is alive. Nelson is passed away, right? You see Nelson? How big is Nelson? Same type shit, right? Wow.
Starting point is 02:40:58 Let me see it. Oh, you can't really see it. Look. This is Nelson. Oh, shit. Yo, dog. And Nelson's a little taller than my Kadesh guy. Yeah, he's a little taller.
Starting point is 02:41:11 He used to rock the T.S. Chain and Bro-Jemies Brons Cafe, the big... This guy, that's... Yeah, I swear to God. Two foot two inches? Two-foot two inches? Who, Maccarescia? Now, Maconess is two... Two-foot two inches?
Starting point is 02:41:28 That's my guy. He'd be in the suits. I'm telling you. He was on Leatherman? What's this? He was on some shit. He's the littlest guy. Ten years ago.
Starting point is 02:41:38 What he was on? Let's say, he passed away, though. No said had girlfriends and everything. I used to see him in the Dominican clubs. Yeah, I'm telling you. Yeah. I'm talking you. You're not seeing you used to be in the Dominican clubs.
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