The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - BEST OF MAY: Tupac & Biggie stories, Jada's iconic Verzuz, Joe's courtside Knicks seats

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Presenting the BEST moments from the first month of the Joe and Jada podcast. The two hip hop legends shared stories about Tupac Shakur, The Notorious B.I.G., Jay-Z, DMX, and Big Pun; debated the merits of flying coach and sitting courtside; had a back-and-forth with Joe Budden and Charlamagne Tha God; and gave listeners an inside look on how the podcast came together. Tap in! 2:00 - Joe and Jada's origin story 5:30 - Inside studio sessions with Biggie & Jay-Z 12:45 - Joe sitting courtside at the Knicks game with 50 Cent 19:00 - Birdman & Toni Braxton's secret marriage & divorce 28:00 - Charlamagne Tha God twisting Joe's words 31:30 - Jada was with Biggie on March 1997 LA trip 36:30 - Did Jada call Joe out at The Lox vs. Dipset Verzuz? 38:45 - WILD DMX & Big Pun stories 47:30 - N.O.R.E.'s cousins bully Joe 54:00 - Travis Hunter got married with no prenup?! 1:03:00 - How Joe & Jada met Tupac 1:09:30 - Why Joe will NEVER fly coach 1:13:15 - Jada can't handle Joe's Tyson Fury comparison (Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.) Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://promo.boostmobile.com/webuiltanetwork/ytb/ #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey guys, it's us The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.

We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. Jen, she's an outsider to win the French name. And she likes Clay.

Listen, Lennar Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on. A Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman. Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud. But how long can this alliance last?

Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the comments, people want to know how we got to this, how we, how this show came about. Well, do we want to tell the truth? Of course we want to tell the truth. Well, before any other rappers was doing sports shows or whatever the thing, me and Jada, it's true. We were supposed to do a sports show.

We were supposed to do a sports show. Long time ago, a couple of years ago. So this idea came up five years ago. I don't know if it's before every other one, crack. You're taking it. You take it. You take it. You take it.

So where that? No, no. All right. I don't know. Somebody's going to say, we have a show. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. See, then you could, they come.

They're shooting that. You're giving them the gun. Let me see. Listen, what I'm saying is this show has been talked about. No, yeah. We're supposed to get, we're supposed to do something. Do you know as a guy, since we're talking about that, is a guy who think, what's my man me?

It's somebody that think we stole this already. Don't do that. It's not a hit if you don't get somebody. You know, I'm upping my lawsuit shit up. Like, you know, they got lawsuit insurance. What? There's so much of time. I need lawsuits.

No, you need lawsuit insurance. You know, you need lawsuit insurance. I'm not bullshitting you. I'm upping my shit up because it's just lawsuit mania. Like, you're right. This shit out of control right now. Like, you know, somebody thinks we stole their idea. We might as well not answer that question, right?

Because this shit out of control. Look at my lawyer. Let me tell you something. I've been watching, you know, everybody could do what they want to do, right? But I've been watching even Joe Schmoe, shows with 24 views and things like that. And they just all like, they mad that we get into the bag. And they're like, oh, Joe and Jay, they just, I'm looking at them.

Joe Schmoe, these guys, they got two cousins watching them. Do. No. They got two cousins and the aunt watching them. And they over here like, y'all, this, they're trying to get clickbait off of us. We came out to get, you knew he was coming, right? anywhere in this business of entertainment, music, art, movie, if it's a bag there, we're coming. If it's rubber duckies, we're coming for the bag.

And so you got to know, we got, we done did this. I asked Jada, he said authenticity. We're going to talk about our perspective and what's going on in life. And some people seem to like it. number two in the country the first time off of one EP. I'm walking around Harlem. I'm walking around the Bronx. They coming up to me.

They loving the show. They love what we do. You know, it's room for everybody. Right? It's room for everybody. Even to Joe Schmo's. One day you might be the biggest in the game. As if right now,

train is coming. Train is coming, baby. That's what I was trying to tell you when. I was playing you that saw the train. coming, baby. The train. I said, y'all, there's nowhere else to look. I always think about the late great DJ Clark Kent,

super producer. Bless and peace to my brother. God's favorite, man. God's favorite. You know, this guy was the best in the world. He passed away. But I always think about when he said, because, you know, he did it all.

Like, he was cool with Biggie, Jay-Z. Like, he put them on. He started with, Cool Herk. He's seen his whole shit from hip-hom. He wasn't that old man. He's one of Cool Herk's original DJ. Superman Clarkin was down with Cool Herk.

That's how far he go back. I met DJ Callet and DJ Nasty at a cool, at a Clark Kent battle. He had a battle and we came up. That's how I meant Caled online around Flojo time. And so he said that Biggie

and Jay-Z, both his men's and Biggie would be like, yo, why you say Jay-Z, but he used to tell Biggie that Jay-Z's better than right? And Biggie would be like, how do you think he's nicer than me? He'd be like, yo, because you're a rapper, he's an

MC. He's like a poet. He could, you know, this is early Jay-Z before all the hits. He's a poet, whatever the case may be. And so to me, the difference of an MC and a rapper is, an MC is, and you have huge hits too, but you more, you got your hand on the third rail,

Talib Guaulib, Jadakis, KRAC's, Rappers, what he's referring to is the guys on billboard that crossed over and we think they commercial. What do you think about that argument right there that he was having between Big and Jay-Z where Big was like, yo, I'm nicer than son, boy, he was like, Nah, Jay Nicest and you, he's an MC. Of course, this is before success. What do you think the difference between an MC and a rapper is? I think an MC is just what it means.

You know what I mean? You can troll in the maestro. You can do anything. You have diversity. You have, you know, you can do different. You can do a beer commercial. You can do an R&B feature. You can do it all.

A rap is just playing with words. You know, the ability to put words to go. The MC can control the crowd. He can have the crowd in his hands. He can engage with the crowd. Yeah, but Nelly, he does stadium. Not just, even the crowd would just. Hey, it's all about the money.

Now you're going into being an entertainer. You know what I mean? Is it an entertainer? Is it a rapper? Is it an MC? Oh, is the song writer? Now you got, now you got people that wrote the song that you never even see. Yeah, Pac was everything.

A actor, dancer, rap, Pac had all the tools of everything. He was everything. He can do drama. He can make music. Because I'm trying to find out who's the perfect one. Like, so you say pot, your mama's like a Picasso.

Yeah. It's like, it's the best song right in the game. You got guys like, Hove, who would I love the door was talking about, you know, we cop the hottest Vs, then we play Monopoly with real cash. That big come on his shit. Like, was you ever there for any of them, like, big song?

I was there for hypnotize. I was there when he wrote with hypnotize. Was you there for I Love the Doe or anything like that? I was there for I loved it, though. No! He was actually in the, we was in the middy room. You know what I mean? They both was there?

Yeah, it was none of it was no fucking emails and none of that there. You had to beat it. So you seen them both going at it right there? It wasn't battling. and none of that. They was trying to make a hit song, which they did. Did you see any paper? Did you see any paper in rhymes?

No. I didn't. It was all the top. No, listen. I didn't see, listen, you're going to tell a real story or not. Everything I tell is real. You don't got a hood for a reason. Listen, we was in the midi room.

We was the young locks. And Hove kept coming in our room, like, giving us an update of what's going on. I'm like, yo, I gotta go for. I'm about to go first, this, that. And he's like, no, he'd go in there and kill that shit. You know what I mean? And he was probably going to the bathroom. Didn't he stop in the midi kicking with us?

You know what I mean? And we actually seen Angela Wingbush. That's not a sample. That's her singing. I love the dough. We've seen her laying a hook. We've seen DMX laying pray and pray for my downfall. That ain't a sample either.

We've seen them record that live. We wanted a fortunate artist to be featured on Life After Death. There's only a couple features on there. So we love Big Forever, you know what I mean? We thankful to been around for the process of Life After Death and slightly before that. It was a beautiful thing. But, yeah, we was in the studio the day they made.

I was in the stew for Love the Dole. I think I was in the stew. Eva, I was there for a lot of them, When we would come for our session, we were here what he just did. Go on Kiss Goodnight. A lot of them shit. Of course, we was there for last days because we featured on. Yeah, but you know, when I think about when we talk about the perfect MC,

the perfect rapper, perfect performer, entertainer, came up a lot today. I think DMX shows which one of them DMX songs. You was there every song he recorded. No, I was there for a lot. Shut him down. to open up shop. I don't think he wanted to do that. When Swiss first boarded to him,

he didn't want to do it. He didn't want to do that? I don't think, at first I don't think he was, like, happy to do it into it when it was done. When I tell you... It was a major hit. And at this time, I was still halfway in the Bronx. So I'm at the car wash.

And when I tell you, every single car, I don't care, it was a Spanish dude that would be playing salsa. they was playing that shit. Like that song had me the disiest. You know how you go Fordham, bro? Where you go in Yonkers when you want to see if your record was popping?

Like Benjamin, you came outside. You go to Fordham. You go to Fordham. You go to Fordham. You go to Fordham. You go to Fordham. You see the cars coming up and down the hill. I stand and see who's playing my album.

Yeah. Up and down the hill, yeah. Man, I have never witnessed in the history of the Bronx. Stalk. Shut him down. So I was dizzy. It was everywhere. Like, that was the craziest to me of standing outside trying to hear your song.

That was that shit right there. You're the king of New York. You're the king of everywhere. Let me tell you something, bro. They fashion week. Everything come down here. Everything touch here. So, you know, last night you go to the Knit game.

They got the Kardashians all front. Like, this is like, let me tell you something. New York got a lot of stars. Like, celebrity. big time stars. Like, it's like they're putting them up a deck now. They ain't just courtsized too many. There's too many superstars in New York City.

If you look at it, the Cardassas is there. The Bad Bunnies is there. The Cardi Bs, the Stephons, the disc ones. The Sopranos, the Dis, the Tina Faye's, the Dis. It's just too many stars in New York City. Now, if we were somewhere else in the B market or, scene market that shit open all day the court side is open

this is a hard ticket to get hard to get a ticket hard to get a ticket I heard that what was the most expensive ticket for the game what was 500,000 something like that 130,000? I don't know it was 54,000 the seat the game I went I was tempted to sell it I would have never caught a ticket again

you know that shit was 54,000 a seat that's crazy I would never do that I ain't gonna lie to you what I ain't paying 54 a ticket Why not? Huh? Why not? Well, I've done it.

I can do a lot with 50 grand. Yeah, but... Yeah. New York, Nick, a game... A Nick floor seat experience is like a bucket list of life that, you know. You could cross that off. I kind of did it for free, so, I mean, I'll take it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know.

That's why I would never pay for the ticket. I need a free. Well, sir, let me tell you something, man. I've paid that much even more for boxing, matches. No, I don't do that. You know, this shit is crazy because your man, Egarbalanga, my little man, Egarbalanga, fight Canelo.

I'm out there with my family in Vegas. His manager, they gave me some suspect. Suspect for me is, I'm not going 10th row. I'm not going 5 row. I got to be front row. So you want all the cell. Because somebody you don't like, your enemy, going to come sit, right?

You know, we call that the Joe Button seats. You know what I'm, second row? I don't even got to. I got a hoodie. I don't even, you know, you know, listen,

them second, third row, that ain't, I can't do it. I got to sit front row. I'll give you my experience.

What do you call them seats? The Joe Button seats. Them shit's second row. You know, perfect example. Him and 50 got some shit

and I'm sitting courtside of 50 comes in right behind y'all. Okay, but he's behind. Those were still considered floor seats.

Those are anything. I didn't know that. It's A and B. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but the man had a little something going on with 50 and why God put 50 said front row. And he's in like third row.

Like that would bother me if I was Joe Buttons. It happened to me before. It happened to me before. When I just, when we just squashed. If he didn't bump in the fifth, would he had a nice experience? He got a good seat.

But the problem is you got to always expect. The enemy might come front. Well. Yo, what are you thinking? Trying to tell you the truth. The enemy will come front row. Look what happened to Joe Biden. That's the only example you can give me in there.

I'm going to give you another one. Okay. I went to a baby face concert. Yo. Hold up. All right. Let me hear it. I got to hear it.

I got to hear it. I'm going to a baby face concert. Once again, 50 cent is the culprit. We just squashed the beef for 50 cent. Everybody's cool. I'm in the second row. Natina got me the tickets up second row. The man come and sit in the front row right in front of me.

Yo, crack, what's up? Yo, hi, Mrs. Crack? I was like, oh, never again. Fifth? Yes. It's just fifth, didn't you? No, no, he's just like, it's him. I'm telling you, he might be like, yo, with Jada.

Third row, three C, he'll come to one C. telling you. This guy is notorious for this. I learned my lesson that night. I was at the baby face concert. I said, you're on the team that don't ever. I don't care if it's Patty LaBelle's. Stephanie Mills.

I'm front row. I won't go. I feel it. You call that arrogant. I feel it. That ain't. That ain't. I hear of it. I feel you. I am not giving the person the opportunity to sit in front of me. It's just, I don't know.

It just, I won't, it happened to me. This is why I'm trying to tell you. What happened to Joe Button. He's standing on that. He's standing on that. He didn't like that shit. You ain't sitting in front of you. Man.

I make sure I never invite. I went to the, let me tell you. I went to the Belonga fight. The seats cost me, let's just say, close to $100,000 or something, right? But the problem was, you know, usually when you get them tickets, somebody sells them tickets.

Obviously, the person. The person who sold me these tickets, I don't know, because we buy them online, was Canello's family. So I'm sitting there. You're a Conno sex. What? Like this. My wife and my daughter would a hundred Conello Mexicans. They all had sweatsuits on.

Like, you got Canello this. And I'm there like, Belonga, for sure I was getting my ass beat. For sure, the cartel was in that motherfucker. I'm sitting there like that. I'm like, how to, my line, Chris? I'm like, how the fuck I get these? seats. Obviously, it was somebody in his crew or his family who

sold their seats. But, yo, don't go in there, like, you got to be very, I told my daughter, I said, yo, be very respectful in here. We might not get out of here. No, I'm talking about saying they got a hundred Canello

front rows. We're the three seats going for Belonga. We're surrounded. The wife is here, the distances. I'm like, oh, we're going to get, thank God I wasn't one of my friends, because we the guy pounded out. You know, back in the hip-hop news, I'm just telling it.

Crazy joke. No, no, crazy. Yeah, this is crazy joke. But the Birdman said he was with Tony Braxton for 18 years. She convinced him to get married. He did no paperwork. She got a divorce in two weeks and caught him for mega millions. He said the fix was in.

This Birdman saying it. He's saying. Oh, it did no. He was with a no pre-nup. 18 years. Talk about the guy that don't pay the producers to the last minute. Let me stop. I love Bertram.

It's almost karma. Somebody told me when we discussed this story in my house, people were saying karma. You're standing on this or this? No, I'm not standing on this. I'm not at the divorce, bro. I'm telling you what the streets is saying. And the Birdman said.

The Birdman said he was with him for 18 years, married her. He had no paperwork. She got him. I don't even want to tell you the number. The number's the price of this building. Like, you ain't no regular number. She caught him two weeks. Divorce. He had to give her that check. Price of this building.

Like a serious, you know... The price of this building is crazy. No. They're serious. The price of a high rise in New York City. He gave him money like that for two weeks' marriage. I don't know. I didn't really have a comment on that because I don't, you know,

I started my pay grade, right? I don't really know about it. I'll tell you a crazy story, right? This is crazy, Joe, but this is real. Reality, I don't want to say no names, but people can pick up on this. So I have a neighbor very successful, like my next door neighbor, very successful.

So he wakes me up, says, Joe, yo, come over to my house. We have in a celebration. So I go to his house and it's a bunch of people in this house. It almost looked like the movie Us. It was just, they were very upscale and they were of color. But they were like Phoebe Wallifton of the black community, the Spanish community.

They was out of control. I never seen people like this, right? And so I'm up in there and everybody looked like they got a master's degree or something. Everybody's smart, whatever, this, that. And so I go up in there and the man's wife, he had just sold his company for like $400 million. Everybody knew it was everywhere. And his wife goes to kinkin, kink, kink with the cup.

And she gives the most beautiful speech. I love this man. This man's the greatest ever. My husband, I'm so proud. And just like my next door neighbor, we're all the way up. And I was like, wow. this is great. Seven in the morning on Instagram,

the wife files for divorce. Yo, y, joke, yo! The next day. After the speech. Premeditated murder. Now, you know, they're going to say I lie. Right? They always say I lie.

No, I'm keeping it real. They're going to say I'm capping. This is going number. Now we're going number one, baby. You know, let's it. I'm just telling. We're going on. They're saying, they're going to say this, but it's the truth.

This really happened in my life. Like, I really was a part of this, and I couldn't understand seven in the morning. I was like, after the speech, but that 400, you know, I guess that's a version of sleeping with the enemy. Definitely. You know what I'm saying? That's like, that's hard, though. That's hard to deal with. Ever signed up for a phone plan thinking,

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What's the news, Nick? Huge news. we created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.

But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.

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The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down. on everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jenchian win. I mean, she went down at three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.

She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lennar Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the Eyeheart. radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I've been telling my stories in the studios or with friends, and I've been telling people, yo, turn the cameras off, yo, turn your phone off. It's strictly for us. Or for one week of podcast, I turned into the Wendy Williams podcast. I just got to be honest with you. I never knew. What am I supposed to do without a hood?

You know, let me tell you something. I don't know how I become Wendy Williams a podcasting in one week, Jay. I mean, like, my phone is off the hook. Like, every rapper in the world is hitting me up. Like, yo, Joe, I don't like how you said this. I don't like how you said that. I have to hear Angie Martinez, queen of journalists, one of the queens and be like,

yo, how you deal with this? Because, you know, by the way, we went number one. You know, it ain't easy being number one, but somebody got to do it. So the podcast went number one. So listen, let me, I'm addressing. What happens to? Scott Joe is crazy.

What did I do now? No, listen. Only thing I agree with before you go into it, because he got something to tell you. But only thing that I did see that I don't think I'm prepared for is that when they take, they're taking stuff and switching it around and making their own, you know what I mean?

This ain't one of them. I was listening to Charlemagne interview with Snoop. And if we did pull up, did you ever say Kendrick surpassed Dre and Snoop and Cube and all of the... I was talking about radio play exactly. Snoop Dawn is the king. He's the king of rap, hip-hop. You can pull up a million interviews where I said the most famous rapper in the universe of rap music it's Snoop Doggy Dog.

I wonder why did he do that to us? Nah, you know, we're in that space now, Jada. That's what I'm trying to tell you. They're trying to stick the knife in us. Yo, Joe Button, let me tell you, sir. You all, my friend, I know you 20 years. You've been doing this thing. You ain't sent us no edible.

He ain't got to send us no edible. He didn't send us no edible strawberries. He didn't have to send us anything. He didn't send us no flowers. He didn't send us no champagne. Where did you get? For one, shout out them, Joe. Why do you think he's going to sit us anything after you named the seats behind the seats after him?

You're saying all of this crazy stuff. We didn't think he's going to send us anything. He 800 episodes in. I got to salute the brother. We're the new guys on the block. We ain't got no disrespect for Joe Butt. Now, Birdman, I read that. I came into the studio with them talking about that on the radio.

Maybe he's been my friend 20 years. he don't like me talking about him getting divorced, but I got nothing but respect and love for the birdman. I'm telling you, my phone was shaking. I'm not used to this. Joe, we still active. You got to, we got love out of here. You got to keep the love.

We got to keep the love. And, yo, I did get love. Primetime called us. Dionne Sanders. Yes. No doubt. He loves how we talked about his family, his son, and all that. He appreciate us.

And yeah, we grew up violent, but that hurt me because I was like, these were the guys putting on for our neighborhood and couldn't believe somebody killed them, senseless murder. Which was the one that, at all the hip-hop, which is the one that got you and you was like, wow. Like, I can't believe this happened. By far, for me, it's big. My first time, the locks, it was our first time in L.A. The big got killed.

So you know what I mean? He was at the party. We was with him before the day before. We, you know, we was in his, like, the happiest time and the saddest time at one time. Did you not feel like it was dangerous being in L.A.? And he had the East Coast, West Coast beef. I felt it was dangerous, but we really didn't know how to,

we, know what I'm saying? We, we didn't know what was really going on. We knew that shit was going on, but we didn't, we never been there. We thought we was ever, protected, we thought we was good. I mean, we thought we was the same way. I mean, we kind of was, because we had bad boy in, we had D and them.

We had a different kind of, I mean, engaged with us. We had extra, we had extra protection. Shout out to D and Ice Pick J. You know, they saved my life, Ice Big J. You saved my life. I heard that story. That's a real story. He was going to get me.

And, you know, I had a lot of beef with the West Coast. I'm probably, and we're not stirring nothing up, but I'm probably the only, rapper from New York that had physical beef with the West Coast, like real physical war. It went down, right? So when I go over there, me and punt out there for the Grammys, there's a million cop cars in the street. And, you know, it was like gang beef. So they had a guy with Jerry curls, a bubble goose. It was hot as hell. And the gun was to his, I don't know how there's one million cops out here They don't see the guy

Oh dog from the fucking menace to society Like the man in the middle of the street Dripping the fucking Jerry Carl juice With a machine gun With a bubble goose on In the summer And we don't rat But I'm looking like Jesus Christ

Don't nobody see And he looked at me like He could not go back to the hood Without clapping fat Joe Not clapping, killing me You had a machine gun. And so it was a million cops out there. I fucked up because we had the mansion.

We knew whatever was going to happen, you know, don't go out over there. And we still, like, dummies, went out. Shout out my brother, Tone, patrol, held it down, all of us. And so I'm sitting out there and the guy's there. There's a girl standing next to me. And she sees what's going on. And she looks at me and says, a girl from New York, she said, no, I'm sorry. She was like, Joe, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry this is happening to you. Like, she could probably see, like, death in my face. Like, the guy was, he was trying to figure out how to shoot me and get away from the 1,000 cops, but he couldn't go back to his hood without shooting me. So he was like, he looked like a dog in rage, and then out of nowhere the door opens and D comes out. And D comes out, he's like, yo, crack, what's up, this and that.

And I looked at him, I said, yo, I just nodded to head. D from the Rough Riders He looks over there General. The general looks over there He looks back and he says that's for you crap I said yeah It's for me

He said yo Ice Pick is going to turn this corner In a white van Y'all better just get in there Get out of here right So the van pull up Ice Pick ain't even know he was saving us right He was coming around to get D

The van pull up We got in that bitch like the fucking painting from good times. You remember good times? They had to sit where everybody was dancing sideways and shit like that good time. Like, yo, we slid in that motherfucker. Yo, God was with us.

It was crazy. It was like six or seven of us. We got in that bitch and left in the van and looked back. That guy was so confused. He didn't know where the fuck we went. Because it was like too crowded. We got in the van.

I was like, yo, I used to think you. Save my life. You don't understand. He was like, what happened? I'll say, yo, d had the machine gone. He ready to clap us. This D told us to get in there. So he took us to the mansion

which a couple of blocks away after that. We said, we went to the Grammys with guns on us. Me and Big Punt, that picture that you see us looking like superheroes, we actually had hammers on us in the Grammys because that was too much.

You know, I'm from Florida too. I've been in Miami for 22 years, but you know, Jada had the versus. I thought he took shots at me. It's the real New York. Not the guys that moved down to Florida. I was going to ask you. I'm outside with it.

Not those guys. I'm in the crowd like, yo, Jado. Like, what's going on? No love. Dude, I got to run out this building. Like, he's shooting down the guys, the migrators. He's crazy. With the snow bunnies, we moved down there for the winter,

yo, Jada, man. What you was thinking, you was getting that cam? What you was thinking when you was taking shot? What did you say? I was out of my mind that day. I wasn't on anything, but the zone I was in was Adderall War mode. It was a very different space I was in that day. I'd never been there before.

You know, I always wanted to ask you about that versus. Was it personal? No, not really. It wasn't, those are brothers. It just, you know, it was a moment, you know. No, I feel you. It's like a sports moment? It's a hip-hop moment.

Facts. Let me tell you something. When I sparred with Jail Roo, I was staying in the building in Jersey, Uncle Dan's building. When I hit the first floor, the man, the doorman, was like, get them crack.

I jumped in the car, the FedEx truck pulled up. Take them to war, crack, drag them. By the time I got a Madison Square gun, I heard so much war. Like, I was, was possessed. Like, I walked up in there.

I was like, yo, I got to kill them. I got, like, they hype. That must feel like Belonga feels like that going to a fight or something like that. Like, no, it's the closest thing to fighting. You know, going to like a bird. That's what you said. You was like fucking possessed. Yeah, it's just a lot.

It was a lot, man. This week, it hit by history, y'all. May 19th, man. DMX. In 1998, the dog, always love for the dog. 1998, he dropped his debut album, as dark and hell is high. The importance of that album to me is that, you know,

he put us on. He came and got us, put us, bought us with rough riders, told him this is, we starting it off like, you know, this who I want to represent with me. And the rest was history. To see where we came from, to see where he came from. He was already there in there,

like Bruce Springsteen and Y.O. We already looked at him as like a rock star. Then fast forward, him being the only or one of the only rappers that ever do Woodstock. That shit is crazy, you know what I mean? That video tape fell out. It would forever mean the world to me because, you know what I mean?

He gave me a chance to change my family's financial situation. you know DMX stuck a guy up right in front of me. DMX stuck a lot of niggins. No, but he was already a star. Oh, he did it after he was X? Yes. Oh shit. It's me, him and punned in the gas station in Brooklyn.

After a show, thousands of people after the show, we in the gas station, dude comes with some chains, and DMX was like, yo, hold up, y'all. He went and took his chains, came back, and started talking to us in the gas station. Yo, DMX You can't be indicted, he dead, so No, no, no, he's done, he dead.

I'm just telling you a true story. Like, I got so many T-M-M-S. You might have- We got to filter some of these stories, you know, I'm telling you, you might have, you gotta have incredible DMX story. I'm not telling you none of them, the crazy, since we go,

I got to give a punch story. Look, when we shot the John Blaze video. DMX showed up. No, listen, this is how long ago, it was, and this sound crazy. This was Stashbox's first got invented. He wanted to test his shit out. It was more before that, but get ahead.

In the 80s, we had Stash trust. It wasn't doing what the shits was doing as a technology involved. All right, yeah, yeah. So I want to show you the Stash, yeah. He wanted to test his own shit out. He drove, somebody was driving, he was in the passenger,

let off a four, I don't know what it was. and wanted to get pulled over and got pulled over I said this thing is nuts though he is nuts that was the crazy shit he put it in the stash yeah he had enough in front of the cops

let it off pull a blocker to pull over I don't know what you're talking about officer and they ain't have this shit to make it pop out yet so he was I said this thing a pun is crazy I just The way to explain it to you

The way to explain it to you, right is you know how somebody could be a genius in something and then in just common sense He just don't know what he's like I would go to his house Right

And he would have about 30, 40 guns In his house If you sat in a pillow It was a gun You put your hand on the chicken It was a gun you hit it It was just And I would sit there

because I really came from the streets. I know what Rico indictments are. Indictments are. I know what all this is. I don't came from all. I'll be like, they're going to make a jail just for you, buddy. Nah, they don't lock rappers up like that.

They got swimming pools for rappers and all that. Tennis courts, I'm like, yo. He's thinking about the futuristic feds. What? And I would tell him, like, yo, pun, you're crazy, bro. Then I go around his hood and the cops pull me over. Like, because Pum, one of the only rappers who never moved out the hood even until he died. He refused to move out the hood.

I was already in Jersey. Like, yo, come in Jersey. Birds are chirping. You know, he, nah, I'm in the hood. I'm the realist. Pun at the crib in the hood. Tim Benz's. Exotic $20,000 dogs and all type of shit.

Like, he was big pun double platinum in the hood. He didn't care. And so I would go to his hood. and as a respected elder brother, the police pulled me over. So I'm like, your officer, why are you putting, yo, Joe, man, you know, you got to stop throwing eggs at the old ladies

in front of the supermarket. You know, we know he's the only guy with the bends with the water guns shooting the old ladies. I'm like, yo, I go in this house. I start arguing with everybody in the house. Like, yo, punt, they're going to put you in jail. You're shooting the water guns at the old ladies,

they know the only guy with a 500 bends in the fucking sound view is you, punt. You're going, now he just didn't. He, he would go real

from genius to common sense, no sense. Like, I had a real struggle with him and Norrie, because Norrie's also my little brother. When they was together, they was crazy.

Them two together is nuts. Oh, they used to see me and be like, yo, Joe's the fun killer. He's the fun killer. No, I don't want you to go to jail and not get to the back. Like, I know what's going on out here. You guys are too crazy.

Thank God we ain't have IG back then. I'll tell you a quick story. We had this joint like this. Two days ago was hot in New York. I'm outside of rich players, the Dynasty Command, the Weas spot. Spenceery is Spentery. Right, dispensary. Cock Diesel, Little Spanish.

dude is walking through with the tank top like this, right? I try to look away I already know. He makes a U-turn. Yo, Joe, you got me through my beard. I did 26 years, this, this, that. One thing I could tell you,

before I was a tough guy, when I was five years old, I always knew the guys who just came home from jail. How do you know? You knew that we were five. No, five. You know these guys got tank tops, and they're walking like, you know, they strutting around the thing.

I knew this guy just came out of jail. It had to be the same way in y'all. You know they come over five years old. I knew that man came home from jail. And it's preferably just before the summer. They're coming out with a tank top and all that. Well, anyway, he did it. I grabbed him so fast, hugged him.

Yo, thank you. I said, you see that? There's a camera in the store. I walked with him two more steps. You see that? It's a camera. I walk with them two more steps. You see that?

It's a camera. I'm not exaggerate. When you come to Richest Joint, I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you how I walk them. Maybe you're halfway to the corner. We past 10 cameras. I said, brother, can't do nothing no more. You're going to jail.

Look at this. We're on camera. That's what Fat Joe's going to tell you after 26 years. You take that with you if you want. You're not getting away because he's walking down. And now he's in the black column. He's poured him. Rican did he

He just wanted to smoke. I'm just trying to let him know. You're on camera, B. I don't give a hell what. What the hand skills you learned in jail? You're going back to jail. He's going to 52, man.

Yeah, he's coming through with the eyes of your brother really politely. Look, look, look, look. Look, it's crazy because Remy came to the thing and I told her that story before. And I said, let me show you this story. She said, what you mean? She came the other day to Rich's Joint.

I walked her. four stores down and there was 10 cameras that saw us. I say, yo, you can't do nothing. You can't do nothing. Kids, somebody will still be stupid and trying. Somebody still tries some dumb shit. Kids, if you shoot the place, you're on camera,

you're not getting away with it, you're done, gone 20 years, your life. You're a very violent space today. But we're counseling, what you're doing it with counseling, though. I'm trying to do some positive shit here. The king of this podcast shit to me is my brother Noriega, Lefraxon. When I tell you, I don't drink, at any show I got in Miami, his Puerto Rican cousins come. Yo. No, no, listen.

You know Norie half black hat Puerto Rican, but the Puerto Rican is coming. My man, Vic, let me explain, son to you. They literally stepchild me and take off. over my section, grab the bottles and be like, yo, you ain't drinking this. They know I don't drink.

They just house my shit. It's 30 of them. And I'm sitting, I'm performing live sitting on the corner. If I'm lucky to have this inch of the couch to myself, I love them. They come, but they just come and take over my shit.

Like, yo, yo, you know, these salt grabbing the champagne, the Aceseated all. You know, drink. You don't care this. Yo, I'm like,

The entourage shit, is the entourage ever going to be dead? Like the entourage. You're going to need some people to travel. You need some people to travel with you. Well, the people to travel and the entourage is four five people. To a festival or going somewhere with four or five people, but back in the days, deep-block come with 40-50. Fat Joe Terrasquhar, come 40-50.

Is the entourage days over? Over? Or do we, are we fooling ourselves? I think it is because every time we're- Just get in the game. Everybody, look, I think it's a thing. When you first get in, you feel, no, I'm bringing the whole block. When you start seeing I go, now, I'm just, the hatchet comes out.

He's paying for bills. He's doing dumb shit. You start axing them off. Nowadays, my circle so small, it's a period. Only God can fit me. I've been trying to find the cast. I've been trying to find... I was trying to find the past code to get in my own...

Circle so small, he forgot the pass... My shit, so... I forgot the past... I still ain't get the privilege of the past... It's only God in the period. No. I can't fuck with these people... You said circle so small is only enough with the guy in it.

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but you gave us a story from your neighbor how something happened. He had a nice, you know, hundreds of million dollars lick. They invited the neighbors over, toasting, hitting the thing. Next day, he gets the schlip. So you don't like to talk about it,

which I agree with you, but you want to line me up to talk about. No, no, no. I just, what do you think about Travis Hunter and his babe, you know, get, man. What does Jadikas think about that? I wish you the best.

I wish my success in the NFL and much success in marriage. I just don't believe these days in true love no more. So I don't believe in true love. I don't believe in true love no more like that. Meaning that back in the days the love our parents had or the love we, at least the last sprinkle of love we had,

is different now. So now... Everything's microwave. No, everything's a business agreement. Instant is. You get married. You got to sit down. I watch...

It is on a thing. I watched this thing on Netflix, Ocho Cinco, and his girl, who I always thought they loved each other to death. And they brought the lawyers before the wedding. And the wedding was called off because they was like, I want a piece of your show. You want a piece of my show. I want to this. It just turned straight business.

And so what I'm saying to you is. is that unfortunately, especially a young athlete. The stigma is not true because John Beeson's my brother. He's a real smart guy. But the stigma around young athletes is they know how to play the fuck out the sport. They ain't that bright. And so the girls zero in on them. No, no.

It's not that bright. They book smart and they're athletic when it comes to knowing. They not love smart. Yeah, because they stay gym racks. They've been in the gym. or the field or the classroom. They haven't been on Broadway. The census is, God bless Travis Hunter,

but my common sense say this won't end right. He's going to end up for a. No pre-nup. No pre-nup. This ain't going to end right. And so that's the point where if you, that's your son, that's your nephew. This might be real love, though, crap. No pre-num, mean.

What was the last time we saw real love? in this generation. Like, you can say real love unless, unfortunately, unless you both is broke and you coming up together, she get a good job and you get a job and we buy the crib together

and we do it together. Other than that, if you're a guy with 100 M's and all that are a chance to say, you fucked and big time, and let me tell you something, somebody should have jumped in front of the barrel. Do anybody got something to say?

Somebody should have... Somebody should have jumped in front of the barrel early, like an uncle and nephew. We hate those people, but at least let it be known. I got a friend, right, which I can't really talk in too much detail. But I got a friend who was once married,

and, you know, they got him. You know what I'm saying? They got him for his paper and all that. You know, his ex-wife got him. She took most of the bread. He was back, fucked up, this, that. Crawled out the dungeons. Crawled out.

out the dungeon. When I say dungeons, look, when you go pick up your man and he got the Hitler mustache, you know, come on, the big shit like this,

he don't even look like, like, you know, he's all fucked up. When you go up there, he got the quarterfield. Now, you know the big shit like,

yes. When you come pull up and you're like, you're like, damn, bro. Like, what happened? Speaking of my,

I don't like how would you call him from Indiana. There's somebody on the patience that looked like Ron from different years. I don't like, yeah. Shepard. I was like Benjamin Shepard and whatever his name.

He got a rifle, though, but I ain't how he looks like Ron from a different work. I don't like a bunch of the Indiana guys by him right there, the guy who come up in there to ruffles some feathers. Ron from a different world. That's what I mean. That mustache. That mustache. You know, the big. See how you thought your man was.

No, I don't know that, but my man was fucked up. So we encourage him, sure enough, he gets back on his feet. He starts making a bunch of money again. And he's ready to rekindle an old flame. Oh, you went back? Yes. Listen, listen, but my thing is I had, because everybody talking behind his back, you got your crew, I got mine.

Everybody, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. I had the balls to pull over on the West Side Highway. He's going to know I'm talking about him. And I said, yo, they left you fucked up already. Are you sure you want to do that? Nah, Joe, I know what I'm doing this and this. I said, bro, I picked you up with the quarterfield. Nah, you know the mustache, the shit.

You know the shit like Shepard from Indiana, that big old the fucking free cheese? Mustache, you remember them black cheese? shit. That thing got that shit right there, right? So I'm like, yo, check this out. I see, you should. I wouldn't have been a real one. I wouldn't have kept the wheel with myself, with my

DNA. So I had to be. He said, nah, I got this, this, and this now. So, right, you sure? I just want you to know I'm bringing this up at this time just so that you know that, you know, I'm not just going with, I'm just trying to be, nah, Joe, I got this. Everybody's happy. It's cool. you know what I'm saying?

But these guys, they want to spend that, they want to rekindle that old flame. I don't know what to tell you. It just ain't safe no more, man. To get married and shit like that. You need old music in the back right here. Where's the love? No, no, that's what I'm saying.

It's the love. Because once you coming in the game, you know what I'm saying? He's just a dunking cup, but it's Kiss Cafe in here, baby. That's right, baby. Kiss Cafe Coffee.com, baby. We got Rewind a 10. Why fight the time?

Why you can rewind the time? Why look 53? Why you can look 43? Why look 43? Why you can look 33? If your wife says she likes you with that gray beard, she's lying, guys. Get in the game. Get your stride back.

Rewind the 10. Sally's beauty. CBS. Yo, listen. Kaj should not, right? He must have... I think Travis should have called Kai. Oh!

Oh, yo, he ain't go to the school of Kye. No, he didn't go. He ain't go to the school of time. But you know what also that tells me about Travis? He ain't got real people around him as much as he did. They do. Somebody has to. They got Coach Prime.

He got your door. They definitely. They told them. No, they love him. I think Prime signed him down and gave him all the game that he made. Shout out to Coach Prime. But you know, I love Brian. He treated him like his son.

I know he gave him all the tools and the resources. Let's move forward that he needed. So I could. talk about the funniest shit I've seen since like Dave Chappelle. This guy, Kassanat, has a class for athletes. The audience is athletes making $100 million, $50 million, this and this and that. And what not to fall for with like bad chicks and baddies and all that. So they got a girl acting like she, you know, and then you got a guy.

So she calling them like, hey, babe. Shoot a shot. They're not in front of the classroom. Hey, babe. know, I'm at the more, you know, I've seen this watch, you know, and I cannot leave the mall without this watch. This is my, it's just speaks to me this, this, that. And then she goes, you know, I need to see if you can wire over 60,000, just 60,000 made this. So they jump out. Whoa, whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, hold up, let her talk some more.

She goes, he goes, what kind of, you ask her, what kind of watch? She says, what kind of watch? And she says, AP, he says, this is you're out. You absolutely hate. APs. You can't see it with A. B's this. So he's teaching the guy and the girl's like, yeah, well, but I like A.P. This and this and that. And they start telling him, yo, tell her your shit

is maxed out. Like, you know, you already spent this week's money is done. And she said, damn, some guys got me like that before. This, this, that. I mean, they're giving classes on how not to get got by a chick.

I think we need to. Oh, no. I thought it was brilliant. Like, I'm watching the shit. I'm dying laughing. I'm like, yo, this shit is brilliant. Because, you know, guys out here, they're getting gotten. Tupac Chacon, one of the most prolific rappers in the world. I think the realest rap in the world ever.

Just my opinion, right? Every time I've seen Tupac, if we talk to violence and we're talking that, he was in some shit. Every single time I laid the eyes on him. I look at him, yo, you seen such and such pulling up. the ham in the middle of the club. You're over here, it was bootlaking tapes. He beat up like 25 Africans on 125th.

I'm watching them. Broad daylight, putting in work everywhere I go. And I met him. He had a red bandana with two guns. I didn't even know who it was. I'm in Atlanta. He'd come up, yo, crack. I don't know who he is.

I'm looking. Met the man is dead. We're in a cipher. It's one of them conferences. He pulled out. Yo, it was pot. That's what I meant. Two Pock's your car.

The first time I'm ever. seen him was in Atlanta, too, at Jack the Rapper. Did he have two guns? That's where I was at, Jack the Rapper. Jack the Rapper. He didn't do that to you. No, I didn't. Did it to me. Right? He was at that Jack the Rapper Rapp.

I was dead. I was never the same one. It had to be the same one. The girl was like, I seen your age on the cake. I thought you was way younger. You was at the Jack the Rapp and the same one. You just going to put me at every event. You was at.

Listen, he was at the same one. I thought you was like 10 years behind me. Man, I'm just everywhere. He was at, you was at the fever. You was at the fresh. Listen, I was a three years old. Listen, you was there. Listen, we was at the motherfucking hotel,

and the girl kept going, death rows in the house, Long Beach, called there. And the girl that was in the chronic, she was singing that shit out there. Left Rose in the house, Long Beach. And I was like, you know,

we just kept making the sing that. But two by I pull up. My point is, he gets, locked up. Let's just say the white people in the record label, no matter how much he was selling, no matter how much we seen

him on TV, no matter what, they did not go in that bag to bail him out. This is the number one rapper at the time. You couldn't escape Tupac. Tupac was on the news. He was on everything. He was selling so many millions of records. They did not bail this man

out. It took Shug Knight to come from L.A. to bail out. Tupac. That's how he got signed the death row. Right? So if you think the record label's coming to bail you out, you know, I know they support

you at the beginning or whatever. You got Lil Durk right now. Little Durk is facing life. Right? If you think he's thinking, I don't know, man, God bless him if he's thinking the record label.

I don't know about none of that shit. But fast forward the times from Park to Dirk. Dirt got, he's making mad off. He got mad. He's trying to put up mad M's, buildings, all. he's still, they denying his bill thus far.

But Pac, they didn't have that, they'll put up. So, man, listen. Is it like a, how do you feel about that with the time? Because his biggest Pock was, he should have had. You don't think he should have been able to get out without shit? His back is going to hear me? He didn't have it. No, but you just said he was everywhere on the news.

He was. But he didn't have that bag. He didn't have that bag or he would have bailed himself out. He didn't have the money to bail himself for. out. Sometimes we live in day by day. We just living by different things. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why is it a situation? Because Dirk got the money and he can't get out. You think you check to check. You work in every day, check to check.

We check to check. If we buying $300,000 watches, house, homes, and everywhere, we check to check. That's why you got to keep working. That's why you got to keep working. Everybody is so rich and why they're fucking still working. You got to fucking work. When I see Smokey Robinson and all the motherfuckers still at Vegas and Lionel Richie. I just seen Rod Stewart about to do something. Yeah, 180.

All right. So what does that mean? Does that mean that they love to do it? Or does it mean like, you got to pay the bill? You got kids in college. You got all type of fucking mortgages. You got car notes. You got shit.

Like, I mean, guys, 80 years old still performing touring. I mean, just two days ago was Patty LaBelle. Yeah, my mom went there. I would have went. My mom in the one. I was in Vegas stuff. I had a show. Patti LaBelle, my girl, Stephanie Bills.

Gladys Knight, Shocker Khan. Come on. That's a must-see TV. But, either they're doing it for the love and the passion, or they still got to get the money to pay these bills. Because these bills just keep coming. The bills don't stop. The bills keep coming.

I don't care. The bills is coming now. The bills is coming now. The train is coming. And so what happens is I don't care how much money we make. It's almost like shampoo. The shit just slipped through your fingers. I'm not safe.

No, I'm keeping it real with you. I am not safe with no amount of money. You don't know how many times I made a million dollars and that shit was gone in like a month or two. And it's just regular shit. Yo, pay the lawyer. Pay your insurance. Pay this.

Repeat process. Just this that. And then you turn around and it's like, yo, where's the bread? Yo, bro. you know, Louis Vuitton ain't cheap, bro. All that shit you're doing out here looking cute. It ain't cheap. And so there's always a check to check.

I don't care how much money you make. It blows my mind. When I'm sitting down, I'm like, yo, I just made a million dollars last month. How the fuck you teller me the Amexville that this, this, this, this is just, just them washed up two quarters of the shit, like real quick.

Like, and you thinking you were in the fucking, When I was in the projects, I thought I could buy a fucking cloud with a million dollars. A cloud. Like, I'd be like, yo, I could buy me a cloud. A million dollars? You're looking at the fucking cartoon. They're going to a million dollars. They was acting like you could buy the whole bronze to that shit.

Check this up. Yeah, you know, D. Ray Davis. D. It's my gosh. I love it. He posted a video of him and coach. It said it's the first time of 12 years. He's been in coach.

He feels like he got flued out or something. Like, what do you feel about flying coach? Spirit, jet blue? I ain't really hopping on the spirit. I hop on a jet blue. I hop on a coach for a short flight. You do it. A quick one?

Yeah. You know what I mean? A short hour or two. Let me tell you something. I said, I ain't, you know. I said, I'd rather go jet blue than like a coach, 11, like 31E. When I get a jet blue, I stay right in the front, watch T.

I watch a few law and orders on there. But I can't go to Cali or nowhere. I'm not doing no real hours on coach. I can't do it, right? I'm not too hours. No, no, no. I definitely can't. There's a hundred thousand.

I'm telling you, I pray. I literally, this is part of my prayer. God, please don't put me in coach. It's a whole different atmosphere back there. I'm not telling you that first class I got a little room. No, I pray. It's part of my prayer. my prayers every day, God, please keep me in first class.

I went coached one time some guys getting married. Now, first class. I'm telling you the truth. What you want me to do? I got to expect to find the things in life. Go ahead. It's hard being number one, but somebody got to do it. So what I'm trying to tell you is the one time I had to fly coach, I sat next to the

hillbilly gyms, that Beverly Hillbilly. When I tell you, these kids was climbing over my shoulder. Some kid threw another kid to back up. Potato chips smack me in my faith. They would die. It's a different type of atmosphere back there. It was not the same. He wasn't in cold time.

These was white people. This is the Beverly Hills belly. Hey, John. Shit, hit my head. Kids climbing over my shit. Yo, I was praying so much in that seat. And that was the Vegas. Oh, see?

Yo, I was praying. It was the only flight. I was praying. I said, God, please, Lord Jesus. I do never want to be on this. again. And let me tell you some, I also believe that, like, the cheaper airlines, like Spirit,

Southwest and all of them, they pay for fucked up routes out there. They pay for the potholes. They got the... Yeah, because they shit always like this. You ever got on a spirit, or they shit like this. I think they paid. All right, what's the wackest level? 34,000 feet. It's cheaper, yes.

They buy that route. And you ship me like this all the time. You get there safe, but you ship me like this. How come you... You pay... It's the end. Listen, you pay for a private.

They'll tell you, yo, we're going over all... I watch Calid maneuvered. Like, yo, I don't want no bumps. I want you to be like, yes, sir, don't worry, we're going to go to the west, to the right. There's no weather in 47,000. Like, you pay for that air.

There's a reason why Spirit Airlines and all the bullshit airlines got that shit, going like this. We can forget about getting a sponsorship of spirit. No, no, no. Well, we could take the bullshit out, right? But just lower level airline.

Yeah, all right. I like that. I like that. Shit crazy out here, man, but you got to take care of yourself, man. Because it's a horror show if you don't. And so we see shit out here sometimes where it just don't make sense. to me, you know, when I see legends looking fucked up, I see people

looking fucked up, I see people not taking care of themselves, man. It's just too much shit, and at certain age, you need to adjust and take care of you. You can't sniff a mountain of cocaine at 50-something years old. You know, you over there thinking you, Tony Montana at 30,

I'm not advising that you sniff a mountain of cocaine at 50 because your ass is done. I'm not advising you sniff a mountain of cocaine at any age. I'm in my crib, Miami, and I'm always early, right? I think you beat me here today, right?

First time. He beat me here. But I'm always early. So I'm ready. I'm ready to shoot the shit from the house. They're like, yo, Jada's a little late. I said, why? He said, he's in a gym.

I had to respect that. I said, damn, this guy's in a jam. And for 50 years old, you can do all that shit. I see you up there, push you up, some assaults and shit. You're doing some shit on one-to-arm. Like that shit, what the fuck? Was your pops cock diesel or something?

No, I'm asking you. No. So where do you get this shit from doing the bar work, the dis? I'm looking at you. Jim Jones is cocked diesel. It's a snowstorm. He works out every day. No, no.

He gets it in. No, in the snow, he's doing push-ups. Anyway. Is that something special or something like he's doing push-ups in the snow with fucking a chain on him and shit? Like, my thing is, yo. This thing is nice.

Yo, no, I'll be looking at y'all working out. I'm like, yo, this shit crazy, but I gotta give it up to you. I mean,

just move a little. Just do a little more. No, I'm moving. I'm good, bro. I'm just not cocked diesel. I don't believe my body. My body is like Tyson Fury.

That was a good comparison. Oh, shit. That was the second best thing he ever said. Let me tell you. He knocked you out. Hell, yeah. But he looked flabby and sick. Like, you're looking at Tyson Fury.

You don't look flabby and sick. No, I don't look flabby and sick. You don't look sick. The man looked like he can't. He was the chair. He retired. Oh, he's still fighting. The man can't get a six back.

He knocked mad niggins up. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So I'm like that. You know, I'm not cocked-jee-you. I'm not hanging off the side of a building. Make sure that's the clip.

Listen, that got to be a clip. I'm like Tyson-Firy. That was the hundred-tod. I'm trying to crazy. It's just it. That ain't this. This is tracking this. Goddick.

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