The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Clipse on "Let God Sort Em Out,” Pharrell, Jay-Z & Def Jam | Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Pusha T & Malice

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Pusha T and Malice, a.k.a. Clipse, to dive into their rap careers and their new album ‘Let God Sort Em Out.’ They discuss how they originally linked up with super producer Pharrell Williams and how he has been a huge part of their sound from the very beginning. Next, Pusha and Malice break down why they left Def Jam over the Kendrick Lamar track on their new album, explaining that in no way is it a beef record, but that politics and optics were the real reason Def Jam had a problem with it. They also thank Jay-Z and Roc Nation for stepping up to do the distribution and explain why they decided that the first track be "The Birds Don't Sing,” a tribute to their late mother and father, featuring John Legend. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And you get the Kedjuk Lamar, right? That's not, that didn't sound like a beef record to me. It sounded like. It wasn't. It just sounds like the beautiful shit. Like, don't shit, right? So it just feels like sometimes. Well, he just said, he said the politics of it.

They ain't even, they probably didn't even listen to it, just hearing the idea of the clips in them. The optics. The optics of it all. Yo, this is Joe Crack. Your boy Jada. This is the Joe and Jada show. His house.

Heavy cocaine talk today. We got the clips in the building. This is this Titanic glaciers of ice cocaine talk up in this joint. One thing I didn't dare do is when we were talking today. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome my brothers to the Joe and Jay to shoulder. Make some noise for the clips.

My brother, push and my brother Mallet. So, what's up? Joe's ready to go. He's hitting the ground running today, ladies and gentlemen. No, I'm just hype. When it comes to these guys, I get hype. You know what I'm saying? They're like superheroes.

Respectfully. You know, yesterday, me and you got to sample just one song. Yeah, that shit was insane and insane. It was crazy. Talking about that shit all the way outside. Did he left? How many years it been since y'all put out a project together? 15 years.

15 years. Wow? Yeah. Still sounding like that. It's crazy. They got a bunch of generic. shit over here on the iPad. We're going to turn that over and not even use that.

But just for the namesake. How did y'all link up with Farrell? For the people that don't know. Man, we had a mutual friend. Like, one of my best friends, Cam, he would always tell me about this dude that make crazy beats or whatever. And Cam would tell Farrell about, you know, me rapping or whatever. So one day we was like at the ocean front.

And we were just out there freestyle in the world. whatever. And, you know, Farrell came up to me. He was like, yo, Cam told me about you. I was like, yeah, he told me about you too. And from there, we just linked and was tight ever since. That's right. That's right. Let's talk VA, right. So you got linked up with him in VA. Yeah, right. VIII, Teddy Riley was out there. Yes. Right? So he had, Devonte swinging all them out there. Yeah, yeah. See the Timberland. Yes. Farrell. Yeah. I had Mike Vic. Of course. Yeah. A. Of course. You know, I got beat up with AI.

He never claims that one. No, no, no. You know what you. You heard about it. No, no, no. You heard about it. I didn't hear about it. You didn't hear about this.

You never heard about this. The only thing we heard is you got the best stories. That's what we've been here. The best stories, no, you never heard about bad news VA. Of course. Where we fought the whole club, it was AI's birthday. You know, is in Newport News? Yeah.

Bro, Newport News. It gets crazy in New York. No. That's what Kay is from. you now understand what I'm trying to say. We over there for AI's birthday. Right. So he's in the hotel gambling all day, right?

Then we go, we got the convertible. It's AI. He's the biggest thing out there. So we go to his birthday party. And so we pull up with his crew, and this shit is ram, pat. Everybody's hype. Next thing I know one of AI's men's get into some shit with somebody. next thing I know the whole club

started throwing glasses at us like fucking vodka's and sodas and we ducking and there's so many glasses every time I get up the shit just hit like it's no way to miss

like they was hitting I always tell AI that story he don't recall the story I remember you got us fucked up in bad news VA because his man jumped off and it was fighting the whole club so VA

right special place lyrically I think y'all put it on your back how did you move because we got to say they from the Bronx originally so how do you move from we were born in the Bronx they were born in the Bronx

they got to know that been there's said Tilden Tilden Tilden Tower you know as soon as we claim the Bronx you know they're going to kill us they're going to shoot us so please he just told you to deal

I was born in the Bronx I left a two He left at five. No, I left at eight. You left at four. Oh, man. But you were in the BX. He's still with it.

Heavy beef bag. They was doing the old McDonald out of farm. They didn't fight. He still with a heavy beef patty. Right? But let's say you go to V8. Yeah. Right?

And so that was a very magical place at that time. It was. Yeah. He's hits. Everything coming busy? Yeah. I mean, this shit was dumb out there. You know what people don't know is,

Um, you know, musicly, people don't know how close in proximity we all were. Like, you know, Malice went to school with Timberlin. Right. You know, we used to, we used to ride our bike to Timlin's house. This is middle school, the junior high school. No, junior high school and high school. Farrell ended up moving, you know, next to my, my elementary school. Like, all of this music that.

that y'all are hearing and all of these people is like in a... Chad, less than a mile from our house. Chad is less than a mile. I'm overstanding. I just want the people to understand.

Yeah, just so the people know. That shit was greatness over there. On every level, from R&B to hip-hop to everything. That was legendary. You guys... So you guys are definitely the cheat code. I'm not trying to say you guys don't deserve everything you got,

but you guys are the cheat code. You got Farrell doing every beat on this. Like, we can't afford that. Like, who can't afford Farrell to do every beat on their album? Like, it's not even about being able to afford peace. It's about being able to get next to him and get his time and get what they, they're his brother. So that's the, it's definitely a cheap old there. You go.

I mean. What it's like having Farrell, one of the geniuses, he's a genius not even just beats everything he's a great month he's one of them he's going to be studied a hundred years from now but that's your guy

yeah you know dealing with Farrell man I think that collectively we got like a synergy that like takes us back to our fan of hip hop moment you know I'm saying so like

musically there's only certain things that we want. There's only certain things that we're going to resonate with. There's only certain. We don't chase sounds. We chase the feeling. We chase time. You know what I'm saying?

We chase. We chase locks-free styles. You know what I'm saying? And what that meant? Like, you know what that meant to us at that particular time? Like, this is like, you know, we just chasing that energy. We chasing that energy. So when we get together, that's what, that's what the,

that's what the studio session is like. It's not about like, you know, this sound or trying to, you know, compete with what's going on. It's like, nah, if it don't make us feel like, you know, this time. Then we just not doing it. And it's tough because, you know, Farrell's a future thinker.

He's a future thinker. He's a future futuristic type of person. So if you say something that harkens back too much to nostalgia, it ruins the whole session. He don't, you know what I'm saying? He doesn't, he doesn't like that type of certain buzzwords. It kind of ruins it. So it's like, you know, you work around it,

but the one thing that we all have in common is that we really remember the time where, like, hip hop was stabbing us, like just stabbing us. You know what I'm saying? Like, we just remember that time. Some of the artists that blew your mind when, um, pause or whatever they want to say, but when, when, when you first heard them, I'm just saying, now we gotta pause this shit. It's like pause for like, you know, but the thing is who some of the artists that blew your mind coming up when when you heard them, you just knew you felt like the world change. Prodigy ruined my life. Rest the piece, the beat.

Prodigy. Prodigy ruin my whole life. I think. I would have to blame Prodigy for like... Violence, huh? Yeah, man. It was, you know, Prodigy was it for me, man. I remember being in school and, like, arguing. Like, you know, what was better? Mob or boot camping?

I'm a mob to the death. But I just thought that Prodigy was, it was something very poetic about what he did. Yeah, for me, it was definitely, I take it back to the juice crew Rock him Big Daddy King Just the real lyricists

You know The ones that gave you that feeling The ones that you look forward To coming out You know When they were dropping And that's why I patterned my whole Rap style after

You know It was about being a lyricist About having something to say Making some kind of sense And the style and all of that So yeah You know I caught goosebumps Yeah

I caught goosebumps As far as music is concerned, push. Push has been consistent with dropping music and going on tour. You know what I mean? Just being relevant in the culture and fashion and lifestyle. Some of the meanest jury. We know you went on a hiatus for a while. You know, just did you fear anything?

Wasn't doing no music. Right. Now, you know, after 15 years or what have you, let God sort them out what sparked it what sparked it I cannot discount during my hiatus

I did two solo projects myself hear ye him and let the dead bury the dead So I was always Yeah still sharpening my skills I think when we went out to Wyoming You know we yay You know

And we did We worked on the Jesus' King album and we did use this gospel and that kind of like pushed my brother and myself into like making music again and putting us in that atmosphere and then we also performed

you know at what was it Sunday service Sunday service yeah so album yeah yeah definitely the Nigo album these were the things that I was like using to be able to approach him about

versus yeah you know what I'm saying Like, you know, we had, I pray for you. Yeah, it was just certain songs. I mean, certain projects that it was like, man, you know. Where it made sense to me at the time. Yeah. Yeah. Because I had asked before.

And it was like, nah. So you went heavy church. Heavy Jesus. I'm heavy Jesus too. But how, how is it doing the album now as the clips talking that street? It's perfect. It's perfect. It's the right time.

It's perfect. But tell me you're like, you know, like we was talking amongst each other about stick wit. Stick Rick, every ending had like a positive ending, every song. So how are you coming, heavy church coming in? Because this definitely got to be a gangster rap album. Heavy Jesus. It's what. It's what?

Right? No, no, I'm saying. No, no, he keeps saying heavy church. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you able to make a gangster rap album, you know, coming from like the church? I don't think, I wouldn't call it gangster rap, but, you know, I think when people look at the clips, apart from the creativity, I think what you should see is businessmen, family men. I think you should see some level of integrity and being about your business, you know, over the years. the way my brother has navigated this thing solo,

it, like, it invigorates me, man. You know what I'm saying? It inspires me. And it's not too much rap-wise that inspires me except for the locks, you know what I'm saying? Appreciate that, my God. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. You know, so just his enthusiasm about the game

keeps me, you know, in that headspace. That's dope because yesterday he played us one song and we know what push is going to do. But when you're about to rap, I see everybody's ear open everybody's room just,

you know, when you got the fucking German Shephyr and dopamine, everybody's ear opened in the room and was like, see what mal is coming with right now. I know what I'm saying? For the one joint they played yesterday,

you know, You know, these are my brothers. They both go crazy. But this song, the beat was insane. They switched up the flow. They both, they had the brotherly flow where they was doing the same flow, but the shit they were saying was great.

I want to speak to that too, man. Like, I think that's where, you know, the production and being produced as an artist comes into play. And that's how you, you know, that's how I feel like that's how we evolve in this joint too. You know, I personally, you know, I want to, I just want to rap. You know what I'm saying? I just want to rap.

You mentioned the flow and the patterns and the stencil. Stupid. The hook was insane too. The thing about it, the thing about that is that, like, you know, that was one of the boxes that we had to check off. Like, it had to be sticky. And when, you know, when Pee be like, yo, it got to. to be sticky though like i just don't you know he says things like man i don't want mixtape verses no i

want like you know something crafted and um once you know once you go through that that uh process of finding what that melody is or finding what that stencil is then you inject the steroids in in that you know what i'm saying that's how um that's the only way to be satisfied for me to be satisfied doing something in a stentil. You got to be saying something bar for bar. You know what I'm saying? That's the only time it comes together like a crossword puzzle for me. I nailed it.

Yeah. I nailed it. Thank you. Thank you. I can't make sure. Make sure y'all don't just, and this is not, I only heard one song, but this is not one of them albums. This is not to be skimmed through.

This is not to be played with. Make sure you got the right outfit. it on, make sure you're like right mind state and absorb it and listen to it repetitively so you can you can, you know what I mean? Get in the space you need to be.

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that core, that street. Thank you. You know, and when I see you walking on runways and fucking friends and all that, no, I'm proud of you. Thank you. I think so we're happy. I feel like one of us.

That's a big. It's so hard for one of us. Yeah. For real, we understand. Yeah, yeah. But when we see you guys walking through that shit, we're like, yo, they let the guys in. Right, right. You know what I mean?

Like, what that feel like to you when you out in France about to get ready to walk the runway? Then you dropped the record, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We see Jay going crazy on the side. Jay was going crazy on the side. Like, what that feel like? Man, these are the boxes we're trying to check off. I feel like our era is the era that shows that you don't have to age out in hip hop.

You know what I'm saying? We don't have to. You don't got age out. Like, niggas is nice right now. Facts. And it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like we actually all live it. You know what I'm saying?

Like we live it. Like hip hop ain't just raps to us. It's raps. It's being flies. Like I'm still taking cold. from Kane. You know what I'm saying? I'm still taking codes from that era.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like that's what it is to us. So it's like, you know, when you get the opportunity to walk a runway or or get that endorsement deal for me, I'm like, man, I remember when this shit won't even supposed to be here. I'm in my dad telling me rap won't going to be here. Like, I remember it. Like, man, it ain't going to be nothing.

It's noise. Yeah, all the noise. You know. So it's like. It was. worse for me. I had a Cuban father. Oh, he doesn't understand you at all. He definitely looking at. Now, he was telling me the plain

truth. He was like, you're not going to make it. Have you seen any Spanish guys make it in this shit? You're done. And, you know, I'm from the, you know, I'm from the saw you to Bronx. My father actually saw hip-hop born. He was like, there's no other Spanish people doing this, probably like, you have no chance. And I'm on it. I'm on the kitchen. writing on the table.

Yeah. But then they become my biggest fans. Yeah. Oh, what? Yeah. You know. I'll never forget, man. My dad recited Biggs,

flavor in your ear verse to me. And I was like, flavor in your ear remix verse. And I couldn't, I was, I was floored. Floored. I'm like, how? Wait, wait, when did you even come into this?

Oh, that's fine. Like, you know, and I was like, man, like this, I mean, that was, that was a time and a point where I was like, oh, nah, this, damn,

he even hit you. He even got you recite. Right. I was like, man, you know, I knew big was big. I knew big was big.

Yeah. Yeah. I know, I hear a lot of biggie smalls in, in your flows. Yes. In your cadence. Yes.

Yes. For years. Yes. He was special. You know, that's funny because Dre from Kooling, Jay,

shout out my brothers. He said he was a big, like, R&B, Joe to see, and all that. He always sent me this story. His father's Jamaica came in with the Flojo. Finalists, you need to be listening to this. Fuck that smooth shit.

You need to listen to Fat Joe Flojo. Dre told me that all the time. That's fine. How long it took you out to make this album? Two years. Two years. Yo, but to speak to what you were just saying, do you know what clips come from, the name?

That's true. That was my next question. Oh, I mean to step. Oh, you guys. Oh, you guys. You got some. It actually, it was, it was actually, um, fully clips. Fully clips.

But we knew you had the full eclipse crew. Yeah. So we chopped it to. Yeah. We chopped it to just clip. We had to chop it down. We were on no smoke. We weren't like that.

Don't worry. We ain't know. We ain't on no smoke. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Now I ain't going to go into the clips. Detail of the business.

But right before you, I was about to release the album, something happened with Dev. Jam and y'all got up out of it. Yeah. Yeah. How serious it is to be able to do what you want to do when ownership and the bullshit and the politics of the business that after being in something so long, you still have to go through the bullshit.

The politics and the business never stops. I think that's the rule. I think that's the biggest takeaway from us. You know what I'm saying? We ain't been out in 15 years. And it's still the same thing. Yeah, still the same thing. For anybody with some type of business mind, you can love rap. Like, we love it, be passionate about it,

but it's something with the business side that always discourages you and make you just want to do other things sometimes. Basically, we had the album, had the album, put the album together, so on and so forth. And, you know, they got, we turned it in and we turned it in, and then we turned it in with the Kendrick verse.

And they didn't want to put it out. They didn't want to put it out. Basically, they didn't, what I feel like, they didn't like the optics while they were going through their lawsuit of, you know, clips, Kendrick together on a song, you know, coming out under UMG with the lawsuit they got going on and so forth. So ended up having a, uh... Basically, y'all got caught in the 21striple-crossed that had nothing to do.

Basically, yeah. You know, it wasn't even on that type of time. No, it happens all the time. It happens to me. Let me finish. Let's finish, man. So, you know, just, you know, so we ended up having to borrow our way out of the situation. It gets a little tricky because we had a one album deal.

The clips did. And then, you know, I was signed there as well. So you can't just, you know, the clips couldn't just leave without me. You know what I'm saying? And so we had to figure it out. and here we are. Rock nation. He was in the position to buy yourself out.

Shout out the hole, man. Yeah, yeah, definitely shout out the hole, man. Rock nation, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, man, you know, just whatever, man. You know, we roll with the punches, bro. Like, we hear. That's what we do.

That's what we do. Yeah. And always got the faith in the music, man. The faith is always in the music. Like, we always know that shit going to be right. So that's, that's. You know what I'm saying? That's what we believe in.

Right. Definitely. You got a tour coming up, a thing I've seen. August 3rd. August, 3rd, man, September 10th. 25 dates of just back to back, man. They sent me a tour bus the other day. I'm like, whoa.

You're like, what? When the last time you seen one that is, man? It's so good to live life when you don't need the bus, right? Like, man, yo. Yo, we used to live on a bus. Now it's like a bus. The butt. They send me the, but they send us two buses.

You got a sweet, you got a sweet. And around with all these people. I'm like, how do you know I wouldn't want to be around all these people? Yeah, I turn down to us, man. My knees ain't the same than my ankles. I'd be like, what? Two months? Keep that.

Like, you know, I don't think I could do it. Like, I'm going with you. You know, I do, I work on the week. Right now, I'm gone. Like, I go every weekend. But to do the tour thing every day. bringing the noise every day, every city. I haven't done that in a long time, B.

I don't know if I want that opportunity. I'm keeping it real. Amen. Well, for us, you know, I guess with us just being away for so long, it's like, it's the highlight to get back in front of the fans. You know what I'm saying? So we'll sacrifice that.

No, no, they're waiting for you too. You know, now. I love it. Yeah. I'm opposed to what he's, I love it. I love it. I love it. That's what so.

I love to get tired of. Listen, I go see kids every time he's in awful, man. You also do pull-ups with one finger, bro. You not built like... I'm just trying to live, man. In this time and there's a lot of young dudes that look older than everybody on this couch. Yeah.

From the never-they putting in the fight. We also got to understand whether we all don't want to take the role model stance, but we are. And so, you know, guys prior to us, you know, they, they fucked up with drugs and all type of shit like that. And it was really hard. We've always loved them for the integrity of the music and what they played for the game. But these young kids, they're looking at us.

There's a young kid right now popping 25 or something who's probably looking at this shit. Like, yo, my OGs look good, bro. That means I could look right. I could be right in the future. I could do right. And that's a moral obligation that we don't accept, but we really do accept. Yeah, right.

And I can see that at you know. We do. We're pushing forward the right way so the young brothers and sisters see us. And know they can get to the promised land. I got a five-year-old, too, man. So I got to be. Yeah, you got to be. Yeah, he gets loose from you in the park.

Yeah. And you can't breathe. You can get out of there. You love me. Gotta chase him. Yeah, man. How are you feeling about that album? What's the, I see you out of an event.

You had to play for the DJs, play a couple sessions. How did it go? I was the reception. Like Puscher said, man, the faith is in the music. You know what I'm saying? It's what we believe in. Once we deliver exactly what it is we want to do when it sounds the way, exactly the way we want it to sound, you know,

we don't think about nothing else. We delivered our part and release it and just, you know, see the acceptance. However it comes, yeah. It's going to be the biggest part of a fan, like with me, a biggest part of a fan is like, yo, what the clips are thinking in 2025, like what they're talking about 2025, you know, something, well, I don't know if you know, but something you get criticized for is talking that.

heavy weight yeah 2025 right yeah I got guys to be like your man be talking I'd be like yo I love this shit let me let me let me chime in on that

the beautiful thing of coming from where we come from and talking to talk we talk is the challenge is how could he say what do you want to say now after having success having money be you know

getting married out being a family man still active still doing this thing. And when you're nice, that's the only challenge. Everybody that keeps saying, he's saying the same thing, they even fucking listening, right?

And they just need something to say because they got the keyboard. And not only that, what is everybody else saying? Yeah. What is everybody else saying? I agree with you 1 million percent. I just came off a vacation

saying that you'll pay. I was writing on the plane and it just immediately speaks violence. I just don't know. I'm in the nicest place, Cobbles. shit is beautiful. I jump on the plane.

I got it out. And I'm like, when I blow the head off, when I hit, I'm just, it's like, I don't know what people understand. Maybe it's my therapy.

Maybe that's what I do. What is it for you? You know what I liken it to? I liken it to, you know, just having a, you know, first of all,

rap has always come from a very real place. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, For real rap, for rap, for people that can rap. Yeah, it comes from a very real place. So, you know, with that being said, and, you know, being in it, you know, 23 years, I feel like at this point, I liken it to, you know, only like, you know, somebody who loves mob movies or a person, you know what I'm saying, that's what they choose to.

Like, you know, I don't watch, I don't watch horror. I watch A&E. You know, it's scarier. I believe it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I liken my music to that as well. I don't know, man. Listen, you can't please everybody.

But listen, 23 years in this, I'm not trying to please nobody. But myself. That's what I care about. Like, you know, I know that my taste, my ear and what it is that I want to hear that resonates with a certain type of person that's the type of person

I want to talk to. That's the person I like. Person, you know what I'm saying? I know. The person who says that, who says like, oh,

you know, he talked that heavy this and not that I. Like, man, I'm sure I don't even jail with you anyway. We don't even like you. I know.

I know I don't like you. I'm positive I don't like you. But you're not even my type of dude. You're not, man. So I just, you know, I take it with a grain of salt. But, you know, more importantly, I know, I know who my fan is. I don't even call them fans.

I call them family. I know who my family is. Like, I know who I'm talking to. Y'all recorded this album, that Louis? Yeah. Yeah, just like this actually. Yeah. Yeah, like, no, no, it's no booth.

I'm just sitting down. Yeah. That's what they recorded. It's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's no boof is just free lines.

This guy's got to be stopped, man. Today, let me say, so we shoot in two episodes. I pulled out a little boat taker because it's rainy outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then I got the Louis off. I said, I better not wear this Louie off because they might come with the shit and fucking lime green. You got everything, Louis.

These guys. I got holl out for real, too, man. I said, don't play yourself and bust this shit out. I haven't seen you in a while for real. I'm looking for some love, man. He didn't send you those? No. Really?

No, no, no, man. He didn't send me anything. He used to love me. I don't know. Listen, I definitely thought he sent you those real. He said me. Yeah. Yeah.

You only looking at Jacob. I needed to. No, I really thought that he did. Because he would. For real, it's not. No, he will. He will. As I get in contact with him, it's going to be a way.

Listen, for Roel has not sent me a quassant. You know, from Louis Vuitton. A cuisson. A cuisson. From Louis Vuitton. Yo. And, man, I love Farrell. You, I'll tell you something without telling you.

I'll tell you in Morris Cole. Somebody was playing with me. And I, somebody was playing. Throw the hoodie off. Somebody was playing with me. And the only person I could think of was Farrell. Right?

Not him playing with. me, but I asked him. I said, yo, I'm having the situation. It's nothing too crazy. I get a phone call one day, like two in the morning, Pharrell. Such and such hangs up the phone. I said, damn, he keeps it 100.

He keeps it 10,000 percent. You know, we got to the sauce. We worked everything out. But I mean, like, the man will, y'all, Forel, a real one. Let me tell you something. He'll make the call. You won't believe.

Two in the morning call. Yo, I'm like, okay, now I know what we're dealing with. You know what I'm saying? You got to know, you got to know the hitting hand in a certain situation. Yo, Farrell, stop, man. Come on. Hit me. Give me a headband or something from fucking Newty Vitton or something.

Yeah, not because he's showing us. I'm just waiting to catch up with him. I already know. I ain't stress me. when I see him, he's going to show some. He's going to show some. He's going to show him. Rest and peace, the Ice Pick, man.

Oh, yeah. Of course, man. Definitely. Shout out to the whole family, old school family film. And right. And everybody that I was introduced to. Oh, we got that song?

That's it. Oh, that's not even play. No further. Let's get into this. You came with results. We walked right in with results. Put it up, though. Yeah, come on.

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And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Yo, let me tell you something, man, you guys, man. it's a certain quality in your music. You know, it's just, it's a certain quality because you never miss that. You know what I mean? Ferald, obviously, that's two for two.

He's going crazy on this album right here. You know what I'm saying? But I also hear, like, when you work with Kanye, when you work with, it's always a certain quality to the music. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, for real, this got something that, he can't buy

there they got some yeah it's a different kind of camaraderie and chemistry and energy and synergy and all that shit is just different

when they connect is just and you get the Kedgit Lamar right that's not that didn't sound like a beef record to me it sounded like

hip-hop it just sounds like it wasn't at all like like don't shit right so you just feel like well he just said

he said the politics of it. They ain't even, they probably didn't even listen to it, just hearing the idea of the clips and them. The optics of it all. They viewed it before viewing it. My thing is, right, when you get into like

highly publicized battles and shit, everybody think the next 20 records you're rapping about somebody you're thinking about that shit. Exactly. Right? Because I mean, is that the case? I think so. I think so. I think that happens a

lot. You know, I mean, you know, listen, man, like I said, we've been in it so long that, like, a surface level listener is just not my type of person. That's a fact. Like, surface level listeners ain't for me. Like, man, we not for, we not. We might take that sound bite and use it as a clip on my new album. Yeah. Don't listen to our shit. Yeah. Listen to the other shit. It's fine. You didn't make it for you. No, I love that. Man, that song right there was crazy, too. Thank you. And Kendra going crazy on that thing.

Black and out. You're going crazy. Like, you know what I said? I've seen it again. I'd seen one of his verse about to come on. I see the ears open. Everybody like, yo, what are you got to say? But that's the fun of it.

You know what I'm saying? That's the fun of it. I feel like we missed you guys, man. We're just so happy you guys are back. Thank you. Um, thank you. Right. So you say somebody like you, right?

We're just, uh, you know, we look at you as greatness. Oh, man. You and your brother. No, we do. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Back.

Same here. Same here. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Right. Like, I be thinking like, I had an argument with somebody. We were talking about top female rappers.

Who was it? You, Chris? Somebody told me, yo, Lauren Hill don't rap. She's, I said Lauren Hill don't rap. Right? But no, no, I'm just saying, hold up, right? Okay. I think she's the greatest female rapper, right?

But my thing is, she walked away from the game, right? And then we're like, yo, whiz Lauren. Like, what, like, I feel like I got cheated out of a fan. I could have caught some more albums, right? Like, what is that like when you just, and as a rapper, how do you pay the bills if you just walk away? Yo, let me tell you, man. when I walked away, that was for me.

That was for me. That was for my soul. That was for my peace of mind. That was just for my integrity. You know what I'm saying? If I didn't walk away, ain't no telling what I would be doing, how I would be, or whatever.

So it was, you know, just take an inventory of my life. I'm much better for it. I wouldn't trade it for anything. You know what I'm saying? me being back here now is a it's a passion you know it is a it's a luxury and the fact that I get to be with my brother I'm just cool with with with all of that um and you got to understand it's like rap ain't never been the reason I eat steak ever you know what I'm saying talk too man you know I appreciate it I'm very grateful for this opportunity glad to be able to be put back in this position and um my guy provides, man. All the time.

And when I left, I didn't leave knowing how the bill was going to get paid. I had no idea. And he showed himself faithful all the way through. I don't even know how the wall stood up, but they did in every car and everything else, too. So I thank them for it. Yeah. Very important. It's funny.

You say that you felt cheated. I'll be going through Twitter. And when we dropped Ace Trump, it's one of the, one of the, one of the, biggest tweets was like they was mad at you. It was like, oh, we've been missing out on this for this long. How dare he do this stuff? No, no, I feel like that. My artist, like him, Lauren, there's a couple of artists that I was like,

yo, I wanted more. I see that tweet. Had a lot of activity. For yourself. And I'm very, very in tune with God, too. I know that. I know that. I peep you.

I see you. So I'm always, he always shows himself. Yeah, he does. You know what I'm saying? At moments, I try to tell my. brother, you know, my brother, he just lost his moms and lost his daughter got hit and run.

Sorry to hear that. And he just was like he was in front of a church by mistake and the bell started ringing and he was like, yo, Joe, I see what you're saying. Like, she was God. You know, people think they don't see God, but he come. Yeah. He'll come and let you

know, yeah. Yo, I'm here and I got you. For sure. And so I overest, I overstand what you're saying someplace where me and you can relate when I hear to this thing because we're doing this podcast. Okay. So when your new

job is talking shit, you're bound to step and shit and I step in shit all the time. Say it again. Kisses an innocent bystand that he'd be on the couch like, oh my God, not again. That's good though. But one of the most

comments that I get right is people saying so say I said I pray for first class seats I didn't say I pray for private I say I pray for first class seats because the one or two times I went in coach I sat next to the Beverly Hillbillies and little kids was throwing packs of potato chips

smacking me in the face and climbing over my shoulder and I was like Jesus please get me back up there. And I pray all the time for first class seats. Now, I get backclassed. Yo, we both landing at the same time. Joe, you change. You was broke from the hood.

Now you want to sit first class. I get a lot of people. So I would like to believe that, yeah, I grew up poor, but my audience grew up with me. They're not 18 years old no more. Maybe they aspire to want better shit in life. So when I'm up here talking about, it used to be inspirational.

Like when you went in a more than a more than aversional. Asperational is where people be like, yo, I want that. Yo, I could get that. Now it seems like a backlight. And this hook, what the hook said on the hook right there? Uncle said, nigga, you must be sick. All you talk about is just getting rich. Choke my neck and Ike my bitch.

beat the system with chains and whips. Hello. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about in the nutshell, right? Yeah. So once again, you ain't rapping for them guys. They're not for us. That's where I got to put it out.

They're not on the surface. They're not on the level of fan because I look at the shit and I'm dumbfounded some of this shit. Like, oh, man, you think you rich. You think you live in a life. You think, I'm like, bro, what do you want me? want to be like Exactly Exactly yeah

You want me to tell you how broke I am Or some shit I gotta heat up the house With the stove and shit like that I think I think if I could add Scripture says Seek ye first

The kingdom of God And his righteousness And all these things Will be added unto you He wants you to have All the desires of your heart Just put him first You're not supposed to be

Walking around He dusty and destitute You know you look at Job You know what I'm saying He was you know, one of the richest people in the Bible. Like, God wants you to have. The only thing is we put so much before him, that's when it all goes, hey, why.

So it's always got to be him. Yeah, it's got to be him. That's how I feel like. I just spoke at my mother's funeral, and I was just talking about, you know, all the great things and all the sacrifices I seen my mother do. But at the same time, I got to praise him, even when I'm feeling sad or when I'm feeling happy, I got to let them know this was all due to him. Amen.

And it's crazy because when you serve. God and you're faithful and you put him first. I'm telling you, I keep telling y'all, I think I'm crazy. Everything you ever wanted, it may not come in the time you want it, anything you ever ask for. Amen. You will reveal it one day to me. I swear to God.

It's a fact. It's just the way it is. It's a fact. And I tell them. You can say it until you blew in the face. Yeah, but I tell them all the time. I try sticking people up. I try selling drugs.

I tried doing this. I tried doing that. Once I tried, God. You ever heard that story I said about the... So I'm in my couch, right?

I'm in Miami. I'm by myself. No, this is a good one. Jada, you ain't got to hide under the hoodie. This is a godly. This is a confession.

Right, right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. You ain't got to hide this. Go ahead.

Testimony. Right. This is a testament. Right. Go ahead. I'm in my couch. I'm all alone. I'm in my

couch all alone. Right? So you think about... Why you got to be so vivid like that? Well, what you want me to do? That's what storytelling. I'm talking to you to do. I'm in my couch all alone. And I'm thinking about why life ain't going so good for me.

Why I ain't where I want to be. Why, you know, friends ain't really checking up on me. Why I'm on one of the moments I'm sitting down. and I live five minutes from my best friend, Calais. Right? So he's up the block. So I'm just sitting there and I'm going through it. And it just, it hit me.

I say, God. We got to put God first. God is the answer. If we stick with God, it's going to be the truth. It's this and this and that. So it hit me. Amen. I finally soaked in the stuff I'm talking now.

That was the moment. Amen. I rushed to Callet's house right now. Caled's my little brother I put in the game. He got the $100 million house. He's beyond happy. His own planes. He's living a life.

Five minutes away. Right? So I got you. Right? So I pull up. Calut usually got security. Guys with 8Ks in front of his house. No security.

I walk in. He got a staffed 15 people. Nobody working. He usually. have his wife and kids there. Nobody's in there. I walk all the way in his house. When I walk in, Cal is in the jacuzzi by himself looking the other way. So I said, yo, Callet, yo Callet, he doesn't turn around. I said, I've been speaking to God. He turns around and jumps up and goes, God is the greatest, God is the greatest. God is the greatest. God is the greatest. God is the greatest.

God is the greatest. God is the greatest. He wouldn't stop. God is the great. So I said, this guy knew all all alone, all alone this guy knew and never told me. He never sat down. You said, yo, Joe, look, I know you want to be tough. I know you want to,

but this is it. You know what I said? That's why when I found out, I started screaming it to everybody. You can't help it. You can't help it. You want to be successful? You want to come up?

Be loyal to God. But I got upset at Calais. because he knew when I all I had to say was yo Calais he knows my voice I've been talking to God he turned around so fast God it's the greatest God is the greatest

God is the greatest God is the greatest God and I said yo this guy knew the secret all the balls so that's why we got to you didn't got to use the hoodie right now there's a house and that was a family show Jada kiss

this a family I'm very rooted in in the high spirit myself man you know if you do my background history i pray for good health though you know i mean i think money and luxury and watches and all that stuff will come i pray to be healthy to be it right have the remaining years with my mom and dad amen kids yeah and i think everything else will fall in line love that after that that's right what are some of the things you pray for oh man i pray for uh that he draws me closer to him and that I seek him diligently.

The scripture says he is a rewarder of those who seek him diligently. I'm up three in the morning like every morning praying because I get woken up at that time and I get on my face and I pray. I cover all of my family. I cover all of my nieces and nephews. You know, I mean, this is daily. My wife sees me get up at this time every morning. you know, I'm going, I'm going in the closet,

close the door behind me. This is every morning. And I think you can't, I think you can pray for whatever you want. It's nothing wrong with praying for things. So that, that's fine. I just, I like to wake up. I'm thankful for things like being in my right mind and having my sanity. I pray for

friends and family that I know that are going through things, people that are sick or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Brothers and Jim, what you pray for? Man, just my family. Honestly, just my family and I just got a whole new outlook with like I said with a five year old

I got a five year old son. Yeah. So it's, um, man, I just pray to be here for him the whole time. Yeah. I had to watch this whole ride. But this being with, since we took a low, we went to the pulpit for a minute.

Let's get back to the album. There's a track on the album. That's how you said way. That's how you say. No. That's how. Burge don't sing. I want to hear. I want to I just play. I just play it. Yeah. Parents, man.

For sure. Yeah. Our parents passed away four months apart. Wow. Yeah. So November 21 and March 22. Yeah. November 21, my mom, March, March 22, our father.

And so birds don't sing is featuring John Legend, Stevie Wonder on the Keys. And the song is basically, my last conversation with my mom speaking to it and his last conversation with our dad and tough, tough record man, super tough record to write. Tough to write, huh?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, gut-wrenching the whole time. That's the kind of pain that I need. I need to wait to hear that. And just it actually starts the album. Everybody puts that, you know, puts record like,

that at the bottom the last joint. Now, this joint actually starts the album just to set the tone to show you the depth and just where we are, you know, how we're feeling, honestly, before we get into all the

chaos. You know, we don't know that. We got a lot of friends, but, you know, I lost my brother, my father, then my mother all in like a four-month fragrance too. Wow. Wow. You know, and all my friends, you know, not to say his business in May it would have been right here.

You know, his mom just got sick last night. I think I'm hitting the age where my brother, Serge, his mother just passed away two days ago. I'm hitting the age where a lot of my friends are starting to lose their parents and they can really, really use that and relate to that because this is the type of thing. I've seen people lose their mind, right? So my biggest fear in life was always if I lose my mother, am I going to go crazy? literally schizophrenia or some shit. Right.

I had that fear my whole life. And so with friends of mine's lost parents, I would really check in on them because I'd be like, yo, there's the type of shit that, you know, it takes a lot to stop me. It takes a lot. You know, my mom's died the next day

we were shooting Joe and Jeter. It takes a lot. So if I know I'm scared that that shit might stop me, I check on my friends. Right. Because that's, that is, you know, that's it to me. You know, thank God, God.

That's right. Give me the strength and I'm still here and we still working and we still doing what we got to do. And I'm not going to lie to you. I'm happy. I'm not depressed. You know, I'd rather my parents not suffer than suffer. Right. You know, it might be a cliche, but, you know, if your parents is there suffering,

you know what I'm saying? You rather them not suffer. But that's beautiful. That's hard. I wrote a record to my mom's. She was fully alive and I was crying the whole time. Yeah, man. You know what I'm saying?

Because you think about how your mom sacrificed for you. Yeah. But, you know, I know it was Father's Day. I know me and you, we got some brown socks and some turkey bacon. Fathers never get nothing for Father's Day. But there's nothing like a mother. Right? At all.

I don't know about you. I don't know. I didn't think I could carry your baby. for nine months. Like, carry a baby for nine months. Give a baby organs. And, like, you know how hard that, have you ever, like, I don't think us men have really, you know, I see some of my friends, they run it through nine kids in a row.

Like, they got her working. Like, and I'm just like, this shit is crazy out here. Like, like, you cannot compare a mother to a father, just my opinion. And I have a great father. Rest of peace. I had a great father, right? He was with us. Never abandoned us.

My mom's caught cancer. He never left my mom's. He raised my son, Joey. You know, I got too much to be grateful for. But, you know, the mom dukes is it. So I get it. Yeah, for sure. For sure.

I'm with you. Yeah. The train is coming, baby. The train is coming now. Yeah. Make sure y'all download stream, however you get the album. Your albums. Let God sort them out.

This is real music. Arguably the album of the year. And I only heard two songs. Easily. You know what I mean? He's my brothers right here. They stand for what I stand for. We represent the same thing.

And we appreciate them on the Joe and Jay. The show makes some noise for the clips. Malice. Thanks for having it. Voyotee, babe. Thanks for having it. Voyote on the couch. And let me tell you something.

our first rap guests. Oh, man. You set the ball. You're on you, T. We're on. You're not. You're not. You're not.

You're disrespected, nobody else. But. Let me tell you something. They keep coming. I'm going to tell you something. And I'm not going to say your name. You can't have Joe Smow. Hold up.

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Everybody, they're not being sitting on their shows. I only want dudes like y'all in our presence, man. That's what's up. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah. You earn, and you've earned that right to have that opinion. Appreciate it. That's it. That's a good. Man, we love you guys, man. Come on.

Come on, man. Love y'all. Straight up. We love watching it. We love seeing y'all. That's just the truth. And you all the day the first on the Joe and Jay to show.

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