The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Conway The Machine on Griselda, Benny The Butcher, Jay-Z & NEW ALBUM on the way

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Griselda's Conway The Machine. Joe and Jada ask Conway about him, Benny The Butcher, and Westside Gunn making it big out of Buffalo, how Griselda managed to cut through the noise of the hip hop industry with straight bars and beats, the time Jay-Z surprised him on stage in Los Angeles, how he first linked up with rap producing legend Alchemist over Twitter DMs, and his upcoming album 'You Can't Kill God With Bullets.' 5:00 - Origins of Griselda 11:00 - Bars & beats over gimmicks 34:00 - Joe's WILD Colombia story 42:15 - Jay-Z surprising Conway on stage 58:00 - New album with Roc Nation [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.]See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey guys, it's us The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.

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private jets, a billion dollar fraud. But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Listen to Kingdom of on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This guy, he's very selectful with the artist to sit on the couch. He got a problem. He turns down, guys, this big. And your name came up, and in one second, he was like, yo. A hundred percent.

We need to react. This Joe the Dawn on my mafia shit. You know what it is, your boy Jada. This is the Joe and Jada. show, every show is exclusive. Every show is iconic. Today we like to welcome our guest. My brother

1-30-Greselda 100% of drumwork, east side of Buffalo's own Conway the Machine. Make some north. What up? What out? What out? What out? Man. My brother was good. Man, life, man. Life is good, man. No doubt. I appreciate that.

I've seen you've been over the water, crushing them crap. I was doing, you know what I mean, getting them bags doing what we do. I was that. He was in some places. I never even, I thought I've been everywhere. I was following you looking at some of those shows like, damn, where's he?

He conquering land for real. No, no question. Shit, man, that shit is, that shit is unbelievable, man. Like, the way that they love hip hop, man, they tapped into the culture over there is, you know what I mean? It's overwhelming, man, the love I felt out there. Like, I was out in Columbia. I was on in Argentina

I was out in fucking Georgia I was everywhere Like you said Like I was touching I was touching land I ain't never thought I'd be at

I ain't think they can They understand Like when I'm bringing To the table With my lyrics Yeah So for For the motherfuckers

To be able to barely Speak English And rapping my shit Word for word Dog It's a different type of feeling Right at the time

It's feeling word Yeah You know You do You do my I'll call for music, so I follow you. I follow you, Griselle, and a whole crew. Yeah.

I can tell you like stages. You like performing. Yeah. Yeah, that's my favorite element of it. Yeah. Watching like dog, man, watching DMX, watching Buster. You know what I'm saying? Go definitely toward the top performance.

Yeah, seeing, you know, I could just tell, like, they put a lot of emphasis in the stage performance part of it, more than just like the pen, you know what I'm saying? and I just like to go out there and just have like an outer body experience just leave it all on the stage yeah, world, world. How, for the people that don't know,

how did Griselda, how y'all did somebody meet in jail or was y'all, y'all, how did y'all, how did y'all even link up? Yeah, no, shit, since the beginning, like, since the beginning, like, niggas is family, so it's like, you know what I mean? It started with, like, me, West, Benny, and machine on black.

Rest and peace. You know what I'm saying? Then my man, Cutter, my man Cutter locked up right now, but he, you know what I'm saying? He started rapping the shit with us, but this is well when we was older. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was a little younger than me.

I was always like the rapping. Like, I've been battled rapping and fucking niggas up since, like, I was 12 years old, 13 years old, and the city just going crazy on whoever was that guy at the time. They had to see me. So that started with that And, you know, them boys just seeing me watching me, you know what I'm saying?

See how I get busy, you just turped into, like, yo, something crazy and then, you know what I'm saying? Like, Benny just started becoming a monster himself, you know what I'm saying? And shit, just, you know, man, we grew like that. That shit grew like that. But it ain't really like, we ain't really take it to, like, the business side or really started trying to get serious till, like, after I got shot. You know what I'm saying?

Once I got shot and like everybody was home like because niggas wasn't never really be home from jail at the same time too. So like she ain't going to be locked up. Benny will be home. Benny will be locked up. West locked up. And I knew we weren't really never all on the streets at the same time until after I got shot.

You know what I'm saying? And then after I got shot, it was just like, nah, bro, it's just you got to be the one take us there go crazy, just put everything and the, like, get you sturdy. You know what I'm saying? The question I have is, I've been to Buffalo. Yeah.

You know, he's still got the Bronx crackheads in Buffalo. Like, when you wonder where the crackheads went, they're in Buffalo. Yeah, no, it's just crazy. The Bronx crackheads is in Buffalo, right? And I've been there, and it's so

hard to get out of Buffalo. Yeah. So, to explain, to everybody out there. You're from upstate New York. That's like a six, seven-hour drive from the boroughs. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. How did you have hope? Not only that, how did you really get on from Buffalo and then the whole crew got on too? Like, how did you think

you can make it from Buffalo? Yeah, and no. Like, nobody think they're going to make it and nothing. Like, fuck, niggas don't think they're going to make it to the league.

Niggas don't be, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's crack. And that's it. You feel me? The streets. That's it. You feel me?

But I always had the mind state dog. Just the right people hear of me. I'm out of here. Because I just always feel like I ain't... There ain't too many niggas that can fuck with me. And that's was way back then. Like, you know what I'm saying? 96, 97, 99, 2,000.

You know what I'm saying? Like... And I think it ain't happen for me. For us. I think that was a blessing in disguise, though. You know what I'm saying? Because we was blessed with the journey. We was able to learn.

We was able to watch errors. We was able to study film, watch y'all game tape. You know what I'm saying? See how y'all are doing it. Like I was saying, like I'm watching Buster Rhymes, perform, watching DMX go crazy from the 50,000. You know what I'm saying? I'm able to see that shit and learn and able to take little elements from everything

and sharpen my blade until it was time. You know what I'm man? But it's definitely to answer your question, man. It's tough. You know what I mean? I don't really know how we did it, man. It's just, I think it was just time. You know what I'm saying?

Like, he just got, like I said, we got our shit in the right people to the right people, man. It's just like the buzz. They started just talking, you know what I mean? But we was like, we was getting so, we was just on our bullshit. Like, we ain't want to even sign no deals and none of that. We didn't want to fuck with nobody.

We was just like, anybody coming to fuck with us. We were doing our own shit. We ain't really signing it. but we should just start getting too crazy. Like the huddies and shit flying off the table, the CDs. We can't sell the vinyl selling for like $1,000. It's somebody to buy the vinyl for 50. This shit, it's on eBay or something for like $1,200.

We're looking at this shit. Like, we're getting murals painting in Japan and shit. Paris. It's like, this shit getting too crazy. We need management now. You know what I'm saying? At least gets management. And, you know what I'm saying?

That's how we met Paul and all that. But that's how we really got our introduction in the game, just hustling and making our shit boutique. Like, you know what I mean? It was like, we was getting into this stream era. This was in the beginning of that. We, like, went against that. Like, fuck that.

You got to come see me. We hit this. Yeah, you can only get it. It's only 187 of these. You know, we're having that 1A7 on the back of the huddies. So the hudies is getting marked up, resale. They, like, took this phone. from like the sneaker game took that same formula and said man we're here today man you know what

you're right fire so it went from a mission impossible to get signed there's something like that in buffalo once y'all got popping the whole grizzella they was going out there trying to sign your cousins everybody they're off of yeah yeah no they're they're out there they've been pulling up they've been they've been pulling up because i you know i'm good friends with bone thug they're from cleveland that's been a little further to get on the buffalo right And when they started popping, they signed every cousin in Cleveland they ever heard. They liked, didn't like. You know, this industry is the industry.

They just pull up once they know. Like Warren G, he got snatched from under. He's Dr. Dre's stepbrother. He went out there and Leo Cohen went to Compton. You know, that's what they do. You know, came to the school street, CX, to the Jets. Yeah, he wasn't. scared, but you got to get it popping

though. You gotta get it. One thing I love about you guys, first of all, you guys get it. Right? Everybody don't get it. And the one thing I loved about you guys

is, you know, I come from digging into crazy. I come from the underground boom back system. Right? But what I love about charge, y'all always invested in your fashion in your fly. That was a big difference. Merge, too. They took

merge to the duct tape. They merged to a rocky ship and took that shit But my thing is the fashion Yeah Right so I'm looking at y'all and y'all sound beats and rhymes Yeah You know that's where we come from That's where we started

And then but you guys was like Throwing that shit on and all that And I could go to an underground concert Today not for nothing They're gonna have some bullshit Yeah they ain't wearing a shit They're wearing whatever you gave them free Def Jam coming out now

Or something they don't give a fuck Right and so But these guys got it They were like, okay, we're going to be underground superstars. We're going to throw their shit on. And who really started that or that's just what it was? I mean, I was really the kind of the nature of it in a sense. But I think that's why, too, like, you know, our music and shit,

like the young boys and shit kind of fuck with us and, like, tapped into our shit, too, because we're able to, they able to relate to us, you know what I'm saying? Like, we was outside doing that. We was the niggas who was having the Avericks and shit on giving them, you know what I'm saying? A little $5 to go to the store or something, you know what I'm saying? So they looked up to us and stuff. And I think it just kind of translate worldwide. Like, look at them niggas because shit, I ain't that young, you feel me?

So young niggas tap in and fuck with me and look after me like, yo, what a big bro type shit? What are our own? So, you know, we'd be having that shit on and we be talking that shit too. that's more relevant, but over them, them same type of, I mean, I got conductor in the cut, I got derringer in the cut, Alchemist, Darren's. I need a Darren's, too, man. I need a couple of derringes,

man. Yeah. Darringer, get that man right, man. Darringes, huh? I'm hell right, Diesel. Some of your influences, you work with a lot of legends. I mean, that that's your show or test. How you get busy, you get a lot of calls from us, for me, styles,

cane. Yeah. Dudes that really do music with substance. How are you feeling about that? Because he doesn't want to work with some of these garbage things. Nah, you know, for me, that's, to me, that's the fucking,

that's the award. You know what I mean? That's to get my flowers from the emcees and I respect looking at that shit. Like at the end of the day, I look at my soul, I'm an emce. I'm truly this hip-hop, this emceeing element of it.

Everything else, like, I don't really, you know what I'm saying? I'm emce first for me. So it's like for me to just, you know, get that love, get that embrace, you know what I'm saying? From niggas like Buster from the chef, you know what I mean? From Starks and them niggas. You know what I mean?

From y'all. You know what it is? I remember we had our first show ever. We ain't never sell a record or nothing. We did our first show. We was on tour. We did it at all. I think Webster Hall.

First stop was in New York City. And Westall, man. I came to the show with Prodigy. Like Prodigy was with us. Hanging all day. Shit, y'all pulled up. Ray pulled up. You know what I'm saying?

Ray pulled up. And performed. Like, hell this, darn. That shit was Walt. It was like a real. Hot as hell. I don't think it's been a, it was crazy. I don't know if it's been no show like that in New York City.

That feel was tight and intimate sense that SOB's got me, that on Western All shit. I've been to a lot of shit. It's just the love. Like it was graffiti and shit on the wall. I know it was all type of little box cutters and pocket rockers in there. It was about 12 pocket rockers in there.

You know what I mean? A couple of butter knives. A lot of MCs that were the greatest in the game didn't know how to pick beats. You guys know how to pick beats. I won't say their names because living legends. I know you're not going to say their name.

Don't do that. Oh, my name. No, he ain't going to hear you. But there's some legendary artists. When people ask me, you know, why such and such ain't blow, Homeboy was the nicest this and this and that. But when you heard they beat selection,

you know, just now, we was just vibing to your shit. You play like five in the world. All them beats feel like they're shooting hair on the street. You know, the back room, the fields are going down, all of them. I don't know. In the 60s.

No, I feel like that shit comes from, like, you know what I'm having access. Sometimes when you might have got no access to no fire, you know what I mean, you're making the best of what you got in front of you, you know what I'm saying? It's like I don't been in it in times like that where the beast was, you know what I'm Yeah, then we got Derringer, you know what I'm saying? He was in-house, like I'm sleeping on the nigger couch, you feel me? And I'm getting access. making these shits on the spot.

Now we got out, we got conductors and you know what I mean, different, different niggas, like, it's just the access, we got the resource now. You know what I'm saying? I can hit Swiss. I can hit different niggas and get, I got the resource now. You know what I'm saying? But as far as like, you know,

that's what I put it as to like, you know, what you said. So my legend is it. You might not have to, you know what I mean, a reach to get no crazy. And then you want to, you need the money or you trying to push something out so bad. Like, fuck it.

I'm just going, I'm going to just pick the 10 hottest shit that I got right here. Fuck it, you know what I mean? The 12, these 12. What's your creative process? I know you need some Zah. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I'm just smoking me one. You feel me? And, um, a lot of, a lot of repisado. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Some type of, some type of sports. You know what I mean? Presentation.

on the screen and on mute and shit. Some beats crazy. That's my stand. And why myself? Like, I just, me and an engineer, maybe like one of my men's, like that shit, I don't really. I don't need a party.

Yeah, I, and they party. And I take everybody to work with me day. I do what I see. You say, I just got a sweep for it. Yeah. Same shit like you, but I got to sweep. I got to sweep. The actual sweep.

What, bro. There, Dave Gertie in there. No, is this It's just like a Like a fob here I got a sweep OCD Yeah

Ain't even dirty It's not even Nothing on the floor But I'll say you first Before you go out Yeah I got to sweep I'm sweeping I'm sweeping something

The negativity You write You write at home Or you write Right at the studio Whatever this shit comes To I do both

Like a lot of I use that shit Don't even I don't even be hitting no pad a lot of that shit. Off the top? Yeah. I mean, I ain't really freestyling.

Yeah, I'm thinking of it. I'm giving it thought, smoke me one or two, and then I'm like, all right, I'm taking me a nap, but saying, wake up. You know, I'm ready. Blow me up,

and then I just go like that. So a lot of that shit on that album, I hadn't even wrote. I ain't write that down. Ew. I'm writing the lyrics down now because, you know, like, yo, I need the lyrics.

I need the lyrics. So I got to go back listening and shit like, damn, what the fuck I say it? You know what I mean? Is there a difference from being high writing lyrics or being sober? For me, nah. For me, no. You know what I'm saying? People say they got to be higher to write.

Do you think it's a difference? It just puts me in the better comfortable. I mean, sometimes you don't need, for me, it's really the beat. Yes. If the beat is super fucking incredible, I don't need nothing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Because I used to write and then, you know, towards my latest stage of my career, it's more like, let me go in the studio, throw that beat on. I don't even want to hear it before that. Right. Then it just talking to the old clock. Yeah, I'm just flowing this shit. Like, you know, they asked me one time, and this guy was incredible. I was overseas on one of them tours.

And some journalists from some fucking country out there, he said, what's the process of writing? And I explained to him that once they put a fire beat on, it's like, remember when we was in kindergarten and all that? And they would make them books that the fucking trees popped out and all that. Yeah, the rhymes just pop out. He was looking at me like I was crazy. But I realized I sounded crazy while I was explaining it to him.

But that's how I really worked. When they throw the beat on, you know, to me, the beat, tell me what to say. Whether good or bad, happy, sad. party, whatever. The beat always tell me what to say. That's how it is for me, for me too. I need that beat, and then I need to be in a good space. That beat will wake me up on my sleep.

I don't care what kind of space. I mean, if that beat crazy, I'm going to stop with my track. Like, I did a song on my last shit. I was leaving the studio. It was like 6.30 in the morning. I've been in there, I don't know, I already did, like four sheds. I'm drunk. I'm all right.

I'm on my way. I'm ready to go to sleep. I'm leaving. so the producer came in I had never worked with this producer or nothing he just plugging his shit up while he playing in the joint that's the thing of play son and I'm like

I stop at the door like yo what's that? No I had that and ended up being on my album that shit was crazy that shit was crazy that's how it works with music they don't they give us the least credit but they know though

for it being an art form but it's art when it's something that measurement rises you you got to have it I tell you all the time This is how we do It's Friday night

And I'm done it fun You go to a party You throw that shit on you rocking I just told Tess You know last time you played that out of part All the time, man I just told Ted's movie You're going to DJ in my house for my birthday

I said, yo bro strictly Harlem I want to feel like I want to thank you I want. Do not play. I need that vibe. Because for some reason, I'm telling Chris today, right? I say how they was killing dudes in that time, right?

Like when you, if you think about when they, the music I'm talking about, you know, you know, when you're time young man or mama used to. And you in the club and the beautiful woman that dance, they dancing. I'm not talking by hip-hop. How do they get the clapping? Money. They're old niggies. Oh, money.

dudes was clapping over their girls this, this. Like, if you think about that time, right, that's it. That's the fact. That's the fact. That's the fact. You're like, how the hell

these guys shoot the place up? Like, what I heard, yeah, they hold money. That's somebody fuck with somebody girl. One of them kind of. Somebody, you know, and so they got the clapping,

but you know, that shit makes me happy. Yeah, yeah. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.

Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you

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Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You know, what makes you happen, brother? Me? Fuck with my dog, man. No doubt. You know what I'm saying? Fuck with my little bulldog, my little French bulldog, man.

Other than that, being left alone, you know what you know? Yeah. No phone or phone on. I'm just telling. I find my happiness doing that. So we're playing a little 2K or something.

We're in the studio. A dope beat makes me happy. That's a fact. What's going on with drum work? We get into it, man. I got, you know, skis. My artist Jay Skis.

And he put out, we put him out. We started him in like 2020, 2020, 2021. but he just did another. He dropped like two, two sheds this year. He tore, he did a tour this year. I got a S.K., my man, Kendricks.

I got a couple of shooters, man. Nice roster. Nice roster. You know, that's beautiful. We're doing this. We got an album of compilation like an hour with all of us. You know what I'm saying? Put that shit out this year too, probably.

You know, what's beautiful that people don't understand is like, when God give you the opportunity, opportunity to be the first to get on and live your dream out. And then you go back to say, all right, I'm going to share it with you. Yep. You know what I'm saying? There's nothing like that putting somebody on helping them see their vision go through. And that's very commendable because you could just be thinking about yourself.

You know, I could think of phenomenal artists that we love the deaf that never put nobody on, meaning rap-wise. You know, so when you go out your way to do that, you know, we all get what shortcomings or we all try to help certain people that went bad, you know what I'm saying? But for the most part, that's a beautiful thing to share your journey and your dream with some up-and-coming artists. Yeah, no, it is. That is, you know what I'm real? Especially for me, like, because I was always a type of person, I don't really, like, I don't mesh well with everybody. Like, I don't really hang around a lot of people. I don't keep a lot of, I keep a small circle.

So, you know what I mean? For me to even, you know what I mean? Just open up pause like that. Like, you feel me and let people just come, come fuck with me. You know what I mean? Jump in the back seat, man. Let's ride up there together. It's actually inspiring for me, you know what I mean?

It's actually doing more for me than them, you know what I'm man? Because I'm getting out of my old self, you know what I'm saying? How are you out of me? Yeah. being just a short-tempered, hot-headed type dude. I'm just more patient with things now. I know how to calm myself down. I get upset and stuff.

So that's why I like to be alone, like the isolation. You know what I mean? Don't doubt. Which you got going any more touring? What's going on? You guys, you going back out? Yeah, I'm out of the tour. I'm on the tour of the States starting in November.

I think I had to show at the end of October, though, out here. I'm not sure, but yeah, I'm going back on that road. You know, I stay on that road. No doubt. Touching them people. Yeah, I like to be on that stage. And that's, you know, fucking with my fans, man. Mm-hmm.

You know, taking them pictures and signing 30 vinyl. You know what I'm saying? Wait, niggas with the finals. They got Apple tags on, Nick. That's a fact. You know, where you at the phone? You know, a nigger got, like, 30 hours. So they're like, nah, I got them all machine.

I'm going back on road I'm going back overseas and shit I got some couple of shows out in Greece you know what I'm saying fire now I'm about to go to Mongolia you ever been to Mongolia that's when you know crack trying to get the bag

where he's going to Mongolia I had a dude in jail with me a white boy you know it's real racial in jail but I put him down without coup nobody wanted him but I seen I seen the strength of him I used to call him Hong Kong's Mongolia. Right?

So one day he comes up to me a month later. He says, hey, boss. I said, what's that? He said, I just realized Hong Kong and Mongolia is two different places. I said, I don't give a fuck. We're lucky I gave you a knick. All the fuck. Hong Kong's Mongolian.

I'm going to Mongolia. That shit. That's a trip. Who's on that? Who's on there with you? The bag is on the show. Who are you going there with? Superior.

If you hear Fat Joe, you know I hate to fly. If you hear me fly to fly in Mongolia. It's this, shh. That shit, like eight hours after China or some wild shit. It's a mission. I got to go to Dubai from Dubai to China. Then Mongolia. You're going to stop in Dubai.

They're going to pick up a couple of, you know, bags and then fly. You know what's up, man. You know what's going on. You know what's going on. But, you know, that's that Mongolia, man. That shit, far as fuck. We're going to see what it is. where you been at where the fans was the craziest about y'all

everywhere nigga oh man shit probably probably probably in Greece and probably uh South America South America was Daisy it was crazy bro South America is

it's electricity man it's a whole different type of energy shit is insane, the show's the line was around two blocks. I got to go that promoter, whoever your promoter was. I need to, I need that crazy.

America, I didn't do so good. Yeah. Latino. I'm gonna keep it real. That's one of the only places I ain't do good. Like, I sell my shit out all the time. Yeah. Boy, I went to South America.

That shit was light work. But I seen Wu-Tang go out there, and that shit was pan of pneumonia. And I was like, I must have went with a whack promoter. No, that shit was crazy. I need his promoter. Yeah, we need that guy.

That shit was insanity out there, dog. Wow. We shot the video out there in Bogota shit. You know what I mean? We were just out there. That's what he was on. The videos in Bogota. You doing shit.

Well, the danger element was definitely profound, though. Yeah, it's heavy. The danger. It was in and out. Hurry out. You got that shock. Let's get out of here. Go, go, go. Cartels over there, abducting people and all type of shit.

Bogotov, the name is Englique. Ingleika. You know, in Gleke? Right. You want me to tell a story? Do you want me to tell a story I got one? I didn't hear me. So they paid me wow money to go to Columbia, like, wow money.

Right? And they did, like, stadiums. and they were empty. They had a little 500,000 people, shit, supposed to have 10, 15,000 people. I walked in after the second show in a hotel and fly hotels, this guy blew the bag. And I see his workers just looking like, man, nervous and shit.

You know, people who are being nice to me and all that. And he was over there talking to him like this. I walked over. Said my wife upstairs, I wanted my way. I was like, yo, what's up? he said, What's up? I would like to take a bat

with nails in it and put it in your ass and turn it inside I said Butter Rockets So I'm like Take a bat with nails and turn it in your ass

I want to hang you upside down And did he start talking all this home This is Columbia? Columbia Right? So I get it. He lost a super bag.

With just where he paid me, then he had to rent stadiums. He thought Fat Joe was going to be pandemonium. And shit was light work, right? So he talking crazy Tony Montana shit. But I tell him, when he finished, I say, yo, you know what, man? You miss your calling.

You should be in Hollywood writing them scripts. Exactly. Because the shit you're saying, no, I'm not going to lie. shit phenomenon. Like, you got that shit. You know, but me, I don't give a fuck. I'm not really scared of you, my man.

So it is what it is. You should stop arguing with your thing. I go upstairs. The next day, we go to Medell-Ying. My daughter grew up with a little girl since they was in kindergarten. Her father comes to school in all events. I know him Colombian man dressed nice, nice most decent guy, this, this, that he invited us to his house in Medellee-Yin.

So we got four cops our security. We get to the block to the hill because it's up on a mountain. And it was like, big mistake. You're not going to, I said, yeah, I'm going up there. He was like, no way. No way. I'm like, signor, such and such as my friend. He said, he's your friend?

I say, it's my friend. We go up there. Bro, they made, I don't know if you know what San Cocho is. They made a pot of San Goccio soup. This shit was like a human fit in there. They was like this. Then they had a living room, a living room where the glass opens. You wasn't with us ass?

And the horses was doing Pasafinos doing the horses you see with the tricks and this and this and that. It was in the living. Man, they had a swimming pool to horses. They were swimming and shit in the living room. So imagine how we watch NFL. They got the horses. topping doing this and this and that, right? I never seen no shit like this.

I've never been a part of this. I get back to the hotel. The promoter dude just told me he wants to shove a bat in my ass, flip me up, sir. Fadre? Why didn't you tell me, you know, Mr. Maldon, I don't.

I said, I didn't even know he was that dude. He's in Miami, undercover nicest guy. seeing him at school. He looked like ghosts. Like ghosts? He used the Colombian ghosts.

When I go over there, he's like, why you don't tell me? You know, Mr. Maldonado. I said, this is my guy. Sorry for everything I said the day before. I'm so sorry. I said, nah, no, no, I saw a good brother. Saw a love. And I happen to know the guy by mistake.

That's my Columbia story. How was it doing? No, that was a good one. That was a good one. What else you got going on outside of music? You know, you like the vast. I know you like the, you got the label. You do the merch, you do shit.

You got any cannabis? You got any of the cannabis. We got some, we got some drum work, exotic. You know what I'm saying? We got, I'm writing a little short film. Fine. I'm about the dabble in the podcast space. No doubt.

Why not? I got some bags, man. I got, like, some four. shit, like full review shit to another little space like that. And just getting more artists. You're still a foodie. Yeah, yeah.

Only certain shit, though. I don't really eat anything, though. You know what I need a certain way. Yeah, I'm gonna fuck with it. I'm gonna fuck with you, you know? You know, I went to Thailand. We did Rolling Loud. We did Rolling Loud.

And Thailand? Thailand. Do that one with me. That's phone. I wanted to do that. All right, but listen, it's a little bit of a culture shock or whatever, but the point is,

I stood in a hotel, I was scared. I'm gonna keep it real. Don't think God like them, you don't know if it was in. I was in the fanciest hotel you could be it, man. This shit was incredible, but I was scared to eat.

Like, if it wasn't like eggs and turkey, but I was not eating this shit. Sure enough, I go on Instagram, and little Uzi is eating like a fucking chocolate beef. fried fucking roach or some shit. That shit went by. I said, I am not leaving this fucking room.

I'm sitting here watching CNN. With the U.S. Regular shit. At the fucking, listen, the hotel was out of control fly. You know, I'm sitting. My sweet is here. Cardi B's here, little Uzi, like everybody was somebody. So the shit was too fly.

But I was scared with no disrespect. I was scared to like, Like going the street and That's how I'm it You still got your festival? Yeah, I still got the festival Yeah I still going to try that shit

That shit was Yeah That shit was crazy Yeah, yeah That's on festival Yeah Drumwork Fest We did it for a couple of years

And shit we're gonna reboot that I mean probably bring it back 26 You know what I'm up there Two three weeks from now And um Yeah, seeing that Buffalo's guard coming through

you know what I'm saying. This is a hip hop, and no, I'm a young kiss, you got a scar. My man, shout out to my bar, but should have went to heck.

You know my shit's symmetric. My shit, you can look at this shit through deep from every yang. You see what I got to deal with? No, but should have went to heck

his wedding is that same day and I can't make it because I got that show in Buffalo. It was a time, but shout out the shit and went to heck and his wife to be.

How'd you meet Alchem? Just all 12, Like he heard saying Once I don't know you can spit He didn't reach out the other That's exactly what I happened Like he He's tight

I got like a People was tagging me He didn't even know my Twitter handle I didn't even have no many followers And I had just started the page And he was He seen a freestyle I was saying

I was on YouTube Like yo You crazy You DM me The number Like yo You next time you come to LA Come through

And we did that And the rest was history That's fine. Love Alchemist, bro. I'm glad everybody, you know, he always was that dude, but I'm glad they're acknowledging it now and they're seeing his greatness.

Yeah. You know, you know, guy like Alchemist, quiet, real hip-hop. Yeah, for sure. And now he's doing Erica Badu album. I listen to the Freddie Gibbs album. I listen to, you know, pretty much anything he got to do with,

I tune in on Alchemist. What was some big moments for you? Like, who did you meet? What was it time that someone came up to you and just said, like, you guys? Oh, man, probably, probably whole, probably whole we was doing that show on LA. And, um, he pulled up.

Yeah, he just pulled up, like, they was at a game or some shit. You feel me, he crossed the street at the stables. And the niggas just pulled up, watch the show, like, I'm performing, and I go for a time. I look up. He's standing there on the stage just watching.

I'm like, yo, am I bugging? No, you was bugging, even though it happened. Yeah, I was bugging. Like, oh, don't do. I mean, I invited him to 36 birthday parties. He ain't never put up. Yeah. Yeah, I named KD.

You know what I'm saying? That nigga pulled out to a show. It was tapped in and just, like, knowing the music. Easy Money sniper. He love hip-hop. Yeah. a hip-hop level. We got some dope beats, too.

Yeah. KD. produced. Oh, I ain't know that. Yo, KD. Katie, one of them dudes that if I big him up and then he'll diss me on Twitter. You know, I keep telling you, I got certain guys that when I big them up,

they'll dissey me for the culture. They'll be like, yo, Craig, I don't really know about that. It's like, I got a selective list now that I can big up. You can't even big motherfuckers up 2028. Who big up, Katie?

man, that's my boy. Trying to tell you, I big him up. Yo, I never seen a better dude at the rocker this, this day. You cat, crack, that day. I'm like, yo, this guy. Like, I can't. I don't know, man. We're in the media space now.

Yeah. So we ain't in the rapper space. You got the hoodie on still. You're chilling rapper. We out here talking the dudes. Sometimes I big dudes up and they come at me. Like, fuck that. That's not how I remember.

And I'm, you're my man, I bigged you up, dog. Like, what? So, KD, I remember that Jay-Z. You know what I mean? Yeah, that went viral when all pulled up to his guns. Your man, West Side Gun, man. I love this guy, man. I remember going down Times Square,

and he had the whole, the big billboard, but he had the Balenci. Like, that motherfucker, he wanted to dress, right? Like, I love that shit. Like, he got that fucking Balenciaga, a three-quarter shit on this with the I'm like I had to step out the car because you know

that shit hit my but that's that shit right there you know what I'm saying so shout out your man West Side Gunner Benny you guys you know pretty much you guys just restored a feeling right a void

that was really really missing and even guys who felt like you who were nice like you they chose the other route trying to be the gimmick or the new or the this or the that. Microwave shit. Microwave shit and y'all just said

you know what? We're going beats and rhymes and then you caught everybody like a hove that loves real hip-hop, the essence, the purity. Because it's very rare with the youth to see somebody because that is the harder route to beats and rhymes, correct?

Yeah. because the overnight success is the gimmick shit. You understand what I'm saying? But, you know, not to say some of them ain't nice. Oh, my God. Some of them, you know, did you? Not too many. Overnight is not too many overnight.

You know, but that's what we feel like. You got to pain. There was a huge void there. You know what I mean? And guys who were doing what you were doing never really took off. And so when y'all start taking off And y'all start creating your own shit We're loving that

Yeah Hey it's us to Jonas Brothers and guess what We have some big news What's the news? Huge news We created our own podcast Called Hey Jonas We invented a podcast

Well we didn't invent it We just contributed to it We're the first people to do podcasts Pretty yeah pretty wide range of podcasts We're starting a trend But this one's extra special So how do we actually come up With a name Hey Jonas guys

I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking, I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas, Jonas,

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I count everybody, pocket. You come in with a staff. He comes in with a staff of five. I count everybody. He got the fucking had the bucket low like fuck it, though. He got some money, this guy.

How important is it to give back? You know what I mean? Showing the younger, what they call these guys? The Y-Ns in Buffalo that, you know, you can make it. It's some hope, some sense of encouragement. It's extremely important, man, because especially coming from Buffalo, or we ain't had that. We ain't had nobody to give us no advice, no.

encouraging words or even show us a blueprint or how to, you know what I'm saying, make it in that space. So it's important, you know what I mean? And that's what is it all about, you know what I mean? You can't take none of this shit with you, man. But you're going to leave it here. You can leave a liar.

Get it back. So I don't want it to end, you know what I'm saying, what we was able to accomplish for the city of Buffalo and the whole upstate, you know what I'm saying? I don't want it to end with just us. So we got to, you know what I'm saying? We got to pour it back in, put it back in the pot, you feel me? Yeah, like I said, I seen Wanda, I seen Tyrone, I seen Junebug, all the crackheads from 88 up there in that Buffalo.

The motherfuckers went up, they shipped them up. I'm telling you. I was outside in Buffalo. I said, God damn, they got the fucking Bronx crackheads up here. So let me ask you something in the streets perspective, right? Because you said one of y'all was always in jail. I never heard that perspective. So being from Buffalo and upstate,

the cops and all the jails are up there. Right? And so, like, when you go, you got a bigger crew? No, I wonder if they send them down. They sent us up there. This is the question, do you go to jail upstate? Yeah. When everybody you grew up with,

So all y'all like deeper? Yeah. Hell of it. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be a lot of Buffalo niggas in the state pens. And even the cops. Like here, we can't relate to them.

Right? So if you in Rikers Island, you got some black Spanish cops. They're talking to you like black and Spanish cops. Then you go up north. And that's what you're dealing with the gay and all that. Yeah. But you're already dealing with them. Y'all living with Buffalo.

So y'all know who Uncle Tom. 100% Yeah. Scotts. No, that's a fan. 100%. Yeah, I never know. Every time I went upstate to visit somebody,

I always thought of like, is there like a Buffalo crew or upstate crew that they're right there? Go, isn't it? They're across the street. Now I don't want to go there. Go check. Don't do that to me. I'm not good with the cold.

Didn't it? I'm a sunshine, motherfucker. That below zero. My brother did time upstate, man, that motherfucker. I don't give a fuck. What clothes you sent them? That motherfucker was cold. He'd be like, yo, Joe, I ain't go outside.

This shit cold for real. A couple of artists, you ain't got to say top five, but a couple of artists that paved the way for you that, you know, you consider living legend, you know, you really fuck what they work. There's plenty. You know what I mean? I'm just like recent, like, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, like,

I'm gonna say my nigga Morris, Rock Marcy. Yeah, shout out to Rock Marcy. I'm gonna say, my nigga, Sauce Walker. Shots Walker's nice to you. I like Sosa Walker. Yeah. Hey, Jada, why you always act like I'm just saying, that's a great issue.

In him? I like him. Yeah. I like him. I like, I like, I like, I like, um, I like Herb. I like G. Herbal. Herb is my nigga. Ken Lottie, you just had a show in Vegas

when I walked off stage, they played the record and I had to ask like four or five I said, who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? And then it was like, yo, that's G. Herbal. I was like. Herbal, herb, nice. Herb, her own.

That record kind of, like, touched the third rail. Yeah, no, Herb nice. Same, every now and then the record, you hear a song and that shit touched the third rap. Oh, this shit crazy. Yeah. That's your guys. Yeah, right now that's what I'm,

listening to one fucking right now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Listen to our clips, you know, you know, shit that's out right now.

You already know the... They're not getting... Jerk me. I was supposed to go to that show. James, you... You called me by everything else. You ain't telling me the clips was here to... I was sitting on the couch.

I was doing absolutely nothing. There's all these group texts of all these shows and then tell us that one. The clips, bro, you think we wasn't fucking pulling up? You got to be out of fucking, like this shit. I wanted to be in attendance. I don't want VIP.

I would have been writing the crowd, loving this show. Real hip-hop shit, James. You see when I said they'd be trying to do shit to me. Like, I'm going to go to the, I'm going with the family to the Bad Bunny concert. And I got the call I ain't really want today, even though it's nothing but love. But I got the call, yo, we don't want you to see people. We're going to take you through the house where you get the free. drinks with the, I thought we was going to be in the crowd.

Like, you know, E.I.P. They don't want to, that we're supposed to pull off at the cliff. They ain't letting you see humans? No, they ain't letting me see humans. You think I'd be joking about that shit. They just gave me the court. Urge you coming. No humans. We're going to, no humans.

We're going to slip you in backstage, put you through the, I'm like, I thought I was going to really act up. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, the clips. Clips album is, he's, I'm crazy. Man, I hope what they did just beats and rhymes

continues to do the numbers they did. Now, everybody wants to make up hoax and this and that. Them boys did numbers. You know what I'm saying? For not commercial lies. Like, you guys, you'll ever do a song with like Selena Gomez and shit like that? I would love to. I can't wait to them.

Are you ready? Yeah. Ah! Yeah. See, my phone's out. I phone got... I thought he was going to do a leaper a couple times. I definitely threw that on the table with my man Clovis. Like, yeah, man, we got to get in that studio together.

You know what I'm saying? I see it. I see, you know, me, I'm, you know, I started underground, brother. And my dream was to be a big artist and a superstar. And the minute I got the opportunity, I did it. You know what I'm saying? and you know, I get it.

I see what you're saying. I'm going to fuck with that. Everybody don't fuck with that. Just everybody don't. The goal is that not, they get the fuck out of it. So you got the new album in the distro deal with Rock Nation. Tell us about that.

Bagalicious. No, you can't kill God with bullets. I'm about to drop that shit, man. It was, like I said, You can't kill God with bullets. These tights. It was important for me to, you know,

do how this a part of my chapter to be fucking with Rock Nation and, you know what I'm saying? Bring my album, bring my business over here with them. You know what I'm saying? This true deal. So, yeah, shit lit now. Shit, shit lit. You know what I mean?

BTC, man, belt of culo. Oh, geez. What I'm giving belt, man. Belt and c. You know what I'm surprised I ain't think of that one, right? Coolo, puppy. We're going to whip your ass. For real.

How's your relationship with God, the most high or, you know. Yeah. You know, God is the greatest, man. God is the greatest. Say it for the guys in the back. God is the greatest, man. Say it for the back of the congregation. You know, that's how I feel, right?

So if God forbid I got shot right now and I got five seconds, I'm praying to God. That's how much belief. faith I have in God. Who else are you going to pray to? Or some guys don't want to pray to it. What I'm trying to tell you is I've seen the guy preaching in the UK. And a man took his time to stop and argue with him. That's fake.

This you preaching fake. You this, this is, you know, it's good to see because I've never seen that before. I've never seen somebody, you know, have that energy and that perspective against God. But some guy was just arguing with the guy in the UK. He was like, hey, God told me to tell you. He loves you. this, this that. We don't care.

We about, you know, there's the opposite side of that. So, you know, to know that God is the greatest, you know, it's the greatest key to have, I mean, for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, God is everything to me. But, um, for real. It's hard.

For the great beautiful. Okay. This guy crazy, right? That was beautiful. Yeah, Jay, the crazy. Y'all think I'm crazy. He witty like a mart. Now I know why you're top five

because you be shooting me every episode like this. Never shoot you. Hey, Joe. What about them legs? What I'm looking at this. This guy. I thought to get you a deal.

Disjoin me. I'll get you a leg deal. I'll have to get you a deal. Then you go, then what? 100 million for the calf. Nah, this guy's insane. But brother, man, we like to thank you

for taking the table. time out pulling the one of the church check it out look for it he's down with rock nation disco drum work is coming

yeah Reselda's already here I know what we doing yeah fucking shit up BTC belt and cooler I got to tell you

we sit down and thank God a whole bunch of artists want to sit on the blue couch and my business partner I got a set

you, I think we're doing good and fat Joe crazy, but this guy, he's very selectful with the artist to sit on the couch. He got a problem. He turns down, guys is this big. Yeah. And your name came up, and in one second, he was like, yo, 100% like that. We need to react.

You know, me, for a guy like me, I look up, I don't even say nothing. I don't think that ever happened with someone that's mentioned and he's like, y'all, one million percent. I just look up. Okay.

Stay down on this week. I guess we got him on this show because he got him on Colson. Woo! He's a hard one to get sometimes. Everybody come up. Same thing with it.

I should be one of them. You don't say nobody's name. Yo, he hates shit, man. Let me tell you think he's a nice guy. This guy died. I just be like, you know, I don't. Listen, bro, we just want you to know we love you.

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