The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Eladio Carrión on new album ‘Corsa,’ Puerto Rico, Latin rap & reggaeton’s American crossover, Boots Ennis vs. Xander Zayasa

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Latin Grammy winner Eladio Carrión, one of the hottest artists in the Latin trap and reggaeton world. Eladio tells Joe and Jada about how American get boxed into specific genres more than Latin artists, walking in Xander Zayas while Jada walked in Boots Ennis for their headlining boxing match, coming up in the game with Bad Bunny and Rauw Alejandro, his “Mbappe” collaboration with Future, and why his professional swimming career wasn’t the best idea for his bank account. Also, they have an insightful conversation on what constitutes a hit, Joe explains why he would have never made “Lean Back” if it weren’t for Missy Elliot, and the room cracks up as Joe misremembers who he lost to at the Grammys. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! Merch is here! https://joeandjadashow.com/ All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I had like lean back. This shit was number one, 47 weeks. They had freestyles and something. They beat us. What was it on? What was it on? You know the Grammys. We love the Grammys. I want to win one this year, but I finally went. You got to get Joey right. Yeah, they got to get me right. I got like two, I should have won that flat out should have won.

Like all the way up. Let's get it started. Huh? Let's get it started. Well, that was it. That would have been. Nah, that's shit. Oh, hold on.

I take the flag back. Yeah, yeah. What up, y'all? This is Joe Cracked the Dawn. You know who it is? Oh, go ahead. You got some more A.K.A. He's been a part of me.

Joe Crack to Dawn, a.k.a. Hose Antonio Calta Hanna. Hey, yeah, yeah. Manteca Jada. What's up, man? No, it is your boy, Jada. This is the Joe and Jada show.

Every show legendary, every show iconic. And we continue to crush him. When you think of today's guests. That's right. Remember, I just told you, every show legendary, every show iconic.

Mm-hmm. Those are the key words. When you think of today's guess, you think of a crossover problem. Somebody who took that Latin trap lane and turned it into a highway. You think Kansas City roots, Puerto Rican hushel.

Punch lines in two languages. Listen to that slow. Punch lines in two languages. A catalog, heavy enough to talk back to whoever. You know what I mean? You think multi-platinum plates. Latin Grammy weight.

And the flow so cold to make your favorite rapper bundle up. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up. Y'all got to see me. You know, y'all got to see me. Hey, I'm gonna. I'm gonna need a cut down.

use that for an intro or something. Y'all got some. Hey, bro. Yeah. Welcome to the show, my brother. You're supposed to do that. Appreciate that. How are you guys doing?

Should normally I just get to the case, but the shoes you got on, right? I'm trying to figure out. You wear that on a regular, like, you cool with shoes? I got my days, but me, me, to be honest, I'm a very, I'm a very, I'm a very, I'm a very, I'm a very being in my house, chancletas, you know. Chancletas, you know. Chalette out? Because I see you with the, with the tacos. I'm like, yo, this nigga just, you just ditty bob down the street with the tacos on.

I'm like, I wear shoes under arrest, nigga, like if I'm locked up or I got to go to like an award shit or something. You're just chilling. I got it's uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's comfortable, too. Yo, Jada, you got sneakers on. I'm just saying, I'm just trying to ask. To be honest, if I'm not wearing all these shoes, I'm always going to bad and stuff. That's 100%.

Like every day, every day. I saw that. I saw you get big money with new balance. No, it's just that I love to, you know. It's comfortable. Yeah, it's comfortable. It's comfortable. It's great.

You know, it's time for my sneaker to come out. Like, I think it's time for me to call. We've been whole, it's been on hold. So I think now I'm going to make the call and be like, yo, we got to drop that. T.S. The red joint. You know, we have always one nice moment.

I think it's time. I think it's time. Stop front. Give it to the people. Give it to them. Come on. I have always been very, very impressed by your skills, by your flows. You never do the same shit twice.

I appreciate. Your collaborations. Tell us about your upbringing. How'd you get into Latin rap? Do you consider a reggaetonero or Latin rap? Same shit? If we go by the, like, you know, technically, I don't do that many if I get thones.

But, like, you know, I'm... Because to me, you're more like a rapper. Yeah, yeah. So you're like a Latin rapper. Yeah, yeah. But like... More than just... The thing is, like, you know, Latino, like, on our side,

I think, like, in the thing, like, American music, you guys get boxed in. Like, if he's a rapper, he can't do a dance hard in his life. Like, it's the very... Us, we have to do everything. Like, we have to do dance hall, Afro beat. We got to do trap. We got to do rap.

We got to, like, it's, like, the fans are more open. hear what you have to offer, like another app market. Man, I'm very impressed by your music, brother. We just... Appreciate that. You know what's crazy. That was a great analogy. Yeah. But you know what's crazy? First of all,

Joe and Jada are the number one show in the game. Come on, come on. I don't give a fuck where you are. I'm home. I took the night off, right? First of all, I want my wife to feel like I'm doing too much because this San Joseo paid Jada.

We were saying, we were saying, San Jose Pais. Yeah. And then I get back and I know the fight is on. So I'm like, man, should I pull up on the fight? Like, you know, I might be doing too much. So I didn't want to get beef in the crib. So I just do it on the movie.

Very important. It chose peace. And I seen you walking in Xander, the body. Man, he's a tough guy. And then you walking in boots. So every time I see you at some shit like that or I'm there, I feel like Joe and Jay does represent. I don't know if I'm.

I'm delusional about that. But when I see it, I said, Dan, they can't escape us for nothing. This motherfucker. But you walked in Xander, he walking boots. How do you know boots? And you could tell me how you know Zanda.

They reached out to me, and you just knew he was dead. Shout out to my man, Harry. Oh, I always knew. I got an artist that's from his same part of Philly, Germant. My man, Lotha. I'm from Germany.

You've seen that shit. You know Philly is, you've seen the country. Because y'all like to look at comments, right? It shows you love, Greg. Oh, the whole feeling. Nah, that nigga's from here. He's on the block over here.

Don't play with me. You know what I'm saying? How do you know Zanda like that? Man, I've known Zenda for a while, man. I've seen him, you know, grow as a fighter. That's my brother. You know, every time I get a chance to walk out with them or see him fight life,

I go, man. I love witnessing my friends doing amazing things. You know what I'm saying? Being boxing, being baseball, being basketball, being basketball. It reminds me of Tito. He ain't scared of nobody. He's a dog, he's a dog.

He's a dog. He's a young fighter. He has his whole career ahead of him. He's a dog, but he's a dog. He swagged out. He's coming in there on that bullshit. But, you know, he had, you know, he didn't have to fight that fight.

You know, I guess he got the experience. That's a true guy has ducco hon. I think I would have ran away from the guy. I think I wouldn't have ducked him a little bit more. I would have been like, nah, no, nah, nah, nah, let me go another weight class or something. because the guy, the guy boots. Guys like boots, they can't even get fights.

They're so good. Like, you know, people was avoiding Pernel Whitig for his own life. The sport needed that fight too. It was an amazing fight. No, it was amazing. The fight was a great fight. It was a good fight. A lot would have been a fight of a year.

You know, shit, they got busy. Yeah, they got busy. They got busy. They got busy. They got busy. They were really great. But both you guys that are all people. And I said, oh, shit, Monday.

I saw, Jaden. when I walked in the, what's it called the backstage? I said, oh, snap, we want to go to do the show on Monday. I said, what's what I'm? Nah, that's hot, man. And, man, you nasty. My upbringing, right? I just about my upbringing.

Oh, yeah, I want to know. How do you get into Latin rap? Who was some of your inspirations? So, yeah. Spanish and it, because you definitely got English inspirations. Yeah, 100%, so. Because all you do is rap in Spanish, but your flows and everything. Yeah, yeah.

And what you talk about is really English rap shit. Yes, I was raised in the States, man. I got to Puerto Rican, I was like 10. My dad was in the military. Like, I moved around. My whole family was from New York. My parents were from. My grandma lived in.

We were everywhere. My grandma was in Red Hook. I got cousins. I got like 100 cousins over here. I got 12 uncles and aunts. But like I moved down as a kid. I didn't know Spanish until I was like 10. You know, there was something here or something there.

But my dad retired from the Army. So like, like, I moved on. you don't have to do anything in the States anymore. He want to go back home. So I started about in Puerto Rico, learn Spanish, you know, watching novellas, speaking. God, no,

over there. One thing that's a, a default of Puerto Rico for the most part is it's America, but they don't speak English over there, like, they should. Oh, but you know, but not now.

They're starting? Yeah, yeah, all the schools, you know, the schools are teaching them before, before it was like, I'd be like, yo, you don't know what a list. And you got a lot of, like, American people fighting in Puerto Rico buy a house with her.

So you're like, you know, you got all the restaurants, establishments, you know, they require you to be bilingual now too. I'm so like when the reggae tone shit started, they offered me the biggest bag in the world, Atlantic Records, for me to make a reggae tone album. I was trying to tell them,

I don't speak Spanish like that. So my shit gonna sound whack. It's just no way around it. It wasn't like I didn't want to do it. With the right producer at the moment, if you were to link with Loon Tunes, tiny, something like that. I knew the 90 tunes and all on,

but still, my flow, my, my, my, my, my, my, my,

my, my, my, wouldn't have been, it wouldn't have been, it wouldn't have been, you know, you know,

you know, made something shit. You could have made something shake. Annette. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

it wouldn't have been like the, you rap, you rap at the end of the day, man, like, like, like, I know,

I know a lot of rappers that they would do, then they would just switch the beat out to reggaeton after. Yeah. So you see, like, these days, Marianto, you know, rap. It would be half regitone and half rap. Don't know explain it too much because you're giving me ideas right now, my nigga, like, stop.

I'm already thinking like, oh, shit, I'm going to pull off a reggae, too. You go into a lot of, you know, Koskulli, Lanquendo, a lot of, you know, those, after the father bees, a lot of times it would be half rap and half regatone. I used to be with heck there for. Yeah, beast. Before he was in church and all that. The man, the man, the man had the crew out there.

Real deal. And then went into the, he became a pastor. Yeah. And so now he goes to jails and everything. And shout out to her father. I haven't seen him a year. I used to hang out with him. He does like for the community now.

At the prime. That's the, that's one of my favorite rapper. She's, I went to Diego's wedding. I went to Diego's wedding. and Dego's more like well, Dego's the black reggae tone. He's from the black hood out there. You know, there's a whole black

hood out there. Yeah, yeah. His son is name Harlem or some shit. Yeah. Like, he was the Afro-Latino. He was the first Afro-Latino, I think, who accepted and said, y'all, I'm an Afro-Latino. It was crazy. Because if you consider the age, he started popping off. Like, it wasn't at 24, 26. He was

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was such a young sport, right? Like I'm watching the BET Awards and I've seen Nas come out. If you listen to them lyrics and Nas was 22, 24 years old, the shit he was spent on it, I rule the world. Like the U.S. They really had something insane.

You know, that's why I love the song you got with Zanda in the video. It's encouraging the kids, letting them know if you could dream about it as possible. Tell us about that and why it was important to you to do like a motivational song like that. All right. So me, I'm very conscious that I got, you know, I got my song, my ignorant music. That is just, you know, I do it thinking about the shows. My shows be like there's full-blown mash pitch. It's very, like, you know, very high-end music.

So I strategically do these songs and buy Pue de Guadro, Roli, do it happen. It's not saying anything in that song. It's just a hype song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But me as an artist, you know, I do feel the responsibility, you know, to go dig a little bit deeper, you know.

You know, I got kids listening. I got people who don't want to be jumping at Moshpitz who really want to sit down while they're driving the work trying to be going to some 9 to 5. Like, what could I, what could I record to help them, you know, get in a better mood to, you know, go to work? What could I record to make this baseball player

want to put this song in his, you know, is that bad? What can I do, like, to make these athletes, you know, get in the zone? Because I was extremely, like, I used music to, you know, to get into that, you know, that zone. And that's what I think about how I do music a lot of times. So I got songs like Galliador Guerrero.

I think that's when I started popping off my music, when I dropped a solo mixtape, it was just straight on progress music, you know, motivational music. And like, there was a space in the genre

and that music that people really didn't open up like that. So when I started doing that, like, it created this crazy, you know, cult fan base. People wanted to listen to music

for other reasons, you know. I still do my ignorant shit, you know, I probably my ignorance shit, but like, who else come up with, how long you've been,

you've been signed, putting out music professionally. And who else was that batch that came around the time that class? My class is the class of Benito Bad, Palo Alejandro.

Who? Oh, man, he was rocking too. Yeah, I know. The thing is, it's cool to see all them cats like going crazy because Benito, they gave him a lot of shit though. He does like this.

He does like this. A nigga is superhero. Let me tell you, this guy. This guy. Yo, listen, this guy. Bad Bunny. Let me tell you something. It was, and there's no disrespect to nobody

because I love everybody, but it was, at that point it was a battle of Anuel, Osuna, Jay Balvin, everybody was putting out hits. I don't know what the fuck Bad Bunny did that made him a fucking Batman or some shit.

That nigga threw the sign up on top of that building No, they all had hits. They all were throwing off platinum shit. Everybody was big. Music. And then that nigga just took off like a superhero. I don't... You know what helps a lot with him?

Like, he can literally be in a studio solo and come out with that. He produces all his first shit. He produces all you mean his own beats? Yeah, like the dealers are all that he did those beats. Like, you know, like... Wow. Yeah, he's like musically, he's nice. And that's probably the big reason.

His team is amazing. Just really, really, really, talented. Like this is that we having a debate last night. We're going to dinner with a couple of friends and they debating fucking Jay-Z. No, no, no.

Slow my partner, right? They debating Jay-Z or Drake. And, you know, my man is like, yo, Drake been doing this for 20 years straight. He's still got young kids. Love it. Hove come out with something. The older guys are going to love it. But what about the youth?

It's a good debate. But it's hard to keep, you know, once like you get this to a certain level to keep on delivering. Like, you know, and beneath those plays, you know, what else could they do? Can I was in the Saucson joint and just went, boom, came with Puerto Rican and made that sound commercial. Like, constantly raising the bar is difficult at that level, you know. So it's, that's very, that's hard. I wouldn't say just raising the bar. Raising the bar is something you got to do.

So, like, Kim, he got this classics on. Why? When he did that, that was to be Jada was raising the bar. I think the thing you hit on first was actually right, right? Because Rick Ross, I could have signed Rick Ross. DJ Caller was begging, yo, sign him, sign him, sign him, sign him, sign him, sign him when he had hustling, right? I honestly didn't think Rick Ross was going to have a long career because that was like, at the time, that sound was like what was going on at the time.

I didn't think, you think I thought Rick Ross was going to. gonna have 10 albums, one of the greatest rappers of all time. This is a hell no. It happens. And so you gotta respect, guys. With me, with the artist, artists might come out with one hit,

two hits, right? And then I'm just like, and then when they come out again and they come out with another hit, another hit, and then they come out with another, I said, oh, you don't see that lot today. You don't see a lot. I'm like, they're trying to stay.

Yeah. This ain't, this ain't, this ain't, this ain't, pit stop, my nigga. These motherfuckers want that long. Who would you think has a lot of? that juice nowadays and like modern rappers and like, you know, hip-hop right now?

You asked me a funny question because I don't really know about you. Who do you think? Like, he in five years still going to be... Drake is still going to be on fire. Not but not, apart from Drake. You don't want to him. He did his bit already. Oh, he did his bit.

Coming up, I can't really honestly tell you right now. Don. Who? Don Tolliver. I think he does really go out. Grant fires fire. Like, if we're going that way? I really, I ranked artists on that.

He asked me a question that we can't even answer. Could you answer it, kiss? Like, who's a young nigga that's going to be on five and five years? I base my drawing on off albums. Like, when I hear, like, my artist really, like, digging into albums and doing, like, good jobs. I'm asking you a question. Why are you looking at me like I'm trying to?

Listen it to the thing. We used to be able to say, Daz, Z, Y, Z, M&M. Right now, we don't have that. type of selection or maybe I'm just old and I don't know who the hottest young Nick's here. Why is the reason? Why can't you name other rappers? They need to put quality out.

Like you are absolutely right. Right now my money's on the old guys. My money's on me. My money's on him. My money's on French Montana. My money's on TI. His album is really hot. And for some reason, everybody step back. They let the youth

run with it for like 10 years or whatever. and then they're like, okay, these motherfuckers don't want to deliver classics, then we got to come back out and deliver classics. But do you think that sometimes, maybe, I think sometimes, like, you know, the media puts out so much information that you think that's the only information

that's out there, and then you're like, let me back down before. I start, you know, but maybe that's not what's really happening. You feel me? Like, oh, this is the most hard, like popping hours right now, but maybe it's not happening.

Maybe you're doing better. Like, you know, I feel like, you know, the media really like, you know, you know what I do is, you know what I do is I go off the energy. Okay, shows. So let me tell you, what's a hit? What do you think a hit is?

I think a hit is something that you can see visibly in shows. That's the one thing you can't fake. You can't pay someone to go to your show. You can't even, I know people, artists that I wouldn't go to their shows even if they paid, you feel me? What do you think is it hit? undeniable. When you hear it,

it makes something that you just know when you hear it, you feel it? I narrowed it down to a feeling. A feeling. That's what I just said. So if you, if right now they play that, spend that shit, you're like, oh shit, that's that shit.

Or if you heard lean back when it first came out, pan, pan, pan, and made you feel like a hit is actually a feeling. It's not just this style of music or this success, is if that record, If you feel like playing that shit over and over again,

then that makes it a hit. Right? Yeah. But you know what's crazy too? I think it was for y'all because like producing wise, there's a lot of stuff that y'all did for the first time. So like when it's hard to now, we're just like recycling stuff that has already,

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Listen, and laugh but not least with MC Jen on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You know, an artist that I really studied, I would have never did name. back if it wasn't from missing. Right? Yeah. I studied it because you were like, is that your bitch when they're in there, is that your bitch when it didn't do and then,

is that your bitch when it went there? And I was like noticing because when I was coming up, I don't know if he knew, but when I was coming up, I was figuring it out. So I'm, you know, my first song was called Flojo. But I didn't know I already had the hit formula, but I hit it by mistake. So it's like, you got to blow, Joe.

You got to go. got a guy, you got a flow, Joe. You got to, so it's the repetitiveness. So with lean back, I purposely when I was making that hook, I said, lean back, lean back, lean back. Because I said, all right, I'm going to say, make it rain, make it rain, make it rain,

so that you can, I didn't know that coming up in the game. But I learned that for Missy, because Missy would always make hooks like that that people could sing a little kid to sing or whatever. Exactly, exactly. She always reinvented herself.

We beat y'all to a lot of shit because we heard Eminem for the first time. Hi, my name is. Niggas was like, y'all. Like, what the fuck is that? That shit was like the aliens came down, like wimby and shit. Or, you know, him, Jay, you know,

it was nothing like him and the lots when they were young, young. You know, the locks, you did da da da da, that. It was like, that shit was. So we got the experience. It was a lot of things. firsthand. And the music, I think people feel for music more because it was way

more, it was not accessible like now. You have to literally go get, they do a little mixtape or go get to see how the trunk. I was never for tape, I'm 94, so I was in the tape era of there, but like the CD. Bro, Jay-Z dropped the album on 9-11, bro, and

niggas went and bought the album in physical. When the buildings came down. Like, you know how hard is that for somebody say, oh shit, they blew the buildings up? Yo, let's go by the Jay-Z album. Yeah, it's crazy. That's crazy.

That's crazy. You went and bought the album, huh? You bought it on 9-11? I was in the house on 9-11, man. You know, two-time a fella, you went and bought it. You was in Alaska? I remember the exact thing. My dad's been in the Army, so, you know, you know,

that means, you know, war, you know. So, like, I remember seeing them saying, Dan, they're going to send dad. They're going to send dad. But, you know, that's very, very, very. very horrible, man. I remember the exact same moment that happened. But that's, you know, the city came back.

My man, full flex, rest of peace. The true story, you know, now I say, you know, I'm like the forest gun to hip-hop. I've been everywhere you could think of. Forrest Gump of hip-hop. I've been everywhere you could think of. I was there. What's the most craziest place you went on stage?

You said, shit, how the fuck am I here? Yeah. Oh, the last of that. He did show. I got to say, I got to say Africa. Like, there's shows I did in Africa that if there was social media

today, it would break a record. Like, it was like, as far as I can see, human beings, I mean, the buildings, the roofs, the floors, the windows, the fucking soccer, what is that? The football where you kick the, the feet,

the field go through, niggas is on that. Niggas on the light. It's just, it's I have control my nigga, like, I mean, like, well, you're just like, yo,

this shit is unbelievable and you ripping it down. I would say Africa, Africa, no phone. My most legendary, it was no Instagram or none of that.

So it's like, you know, for one time, I would pretty much live in Africa for like two years, meaning over here. So what happens is... You stayed there a lot?

You stayed in Africa? I stayed a lot. I've been down to grow up. But what happened is, you could go to Africa. Equatorial Guinea, they speak nothing. Oh, Spanish. You know, I got for the show there when I just started doing...

It's beautiful, and they all speak Spanish. The whole Africa, the whole country. When you meet the girl, is Marietas Man and Lesita in the middle of Africa. Like, that's their names. You know, Minton. And they play in Sousan shit. It's the craziest shit you ever see. I used to go there.

You stayed out over there. I used to go over there. Used to go over there. Grouponichio be performing me, this, that, Tito Nierves, Jose Abeto Canario and Fat Joe's the rapper. That shit was lit every New Year's. Yeah, fine. But the point is, I've been to some shit.

You know what I'm saying? It was really, really, really, really. I went one time. I thought nobody was there. I went to Tanzania. That's the furthest you could go. The plane got to take a break. The plane got to take a break, my thinking.

No. The plane lanes. Like 18 out, niggia, 18 hours in that shit of laying in the smack in the middle. You could be in Sudan. You don't know where to,

that shit pitch black. And they start throwing the, they put the gas in that bitch and they go another five. That's the furthest place I ever been. Right? So I go just to describe the whole shit. We get out.

They got a bunch of trucks for us. We get the gas, the airport. And they race it. they're wasting like a president is here, some shit back. So some guy's going to work. It's like six in the morning, the sun's coming up.

And they almost hit him, so he backs up, fuck. And he sees me, he's like, yo, fat Joe, what's something? That's where I knew I was famous. Yeah. When I went that fucking ball away, and the first nigga at six in the morning almost got hit with the car. It's like, yo, Joey crack, oh, shit.

I say, oh, shit, I'm famous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm all the way to fuck. I was here, you know me? And so that night. I went to do to the show. It was so quiet. I came out the back of the thing

and I'm going around the stadium and he was like nobody. It was quiet and shit. And I made one turn it might have been 300,000. Biggs, you couldn't see the... I was scared.

I thought I had a no-show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know where I fuck? It was terrible for me was Columbia. Columbia? I went to Columbia one time and my wife's Colombian and you know

I got a ill story with that one but yo the promoter one you know listen let me tell you something the shows was not fool my nigga they rent the stadiums and it was like 500 people or 1,000 people and the shit was 20 seat of wieners

that nigga was tired my man like he was like because he paid me a lot of money and I went out there and it didn't work I don't know if he ain't promoted right Fat Joe ain't big in Colombia. Latin America is Argentina the place where they

accept like the most America is Argentina and Chile because they got they do Lola Paluzas like they're already you know educated and you know in Mexico too. The other day I went

to I had a show in Mexico I think it was like 16,000 but next to us was like a 50,000 arena and it was who was seen it was a chemical Romance, two days in a row, 50,000, bop, back, back, Mexico. Mexico, fuck with hip-hop.

Yeah, Mexico, because they're very rap. Yeah, I went to Columbia. It was crazy because, you know, my family over there, they probably think of like, I'm a big rap star when they showed up to the show. The big one was just probably like, yo, what the fuck happened? The saxophone started to. Yeah.

You know, they were looking like, yo, this thing ain't lit. I'm like, Primo! The shit wasn't rocket, B. I was like, so the promoter, I see him, he's screaming on the working, so I walk in, I'm like,

you know, because he spent a lot of money. I said, yo, Papa, what so? You know what happened? You know what happened? That you want to reinvented. He wants to put in a bathe with gancho

and put in his cule. Like this nigger was telling me He wants to put a bat up my ass with spikes And fucking rip my in- I would have been gone right there My d'all. You had the money. You had the money already?

He paid me the bag. The hotel's top of that line, this rich carter and the whole floor. Arenas. This nigga was tight. He took a hell like millions. And that nigga was talking crazy. Like stupid crazy.

Yo, nigga, I killed you, nigga. I turned you this. I said, you said, you finish. He said, yeah. I said, man, you should go to Hollywood and write scripts. Yeah. Because if you think I give a fuck about what you're saying,

you got me fucked up. That didn't look at me. He said, huh? I said, man, are you getting, are you damn give a fuck about what you're saying, nigga? It is what it is. The craziest.

Let me finish the story. The next day, we go to like, Medell Yink. My daughter. Where was it, Shumbra? Yeah, Bogota. But the next show was Medell Yank. My daughter, this is like power.

That's all I'm going to say. It's like power, the TV show. My daughter goes to school with a girl. They're best friends. Her father says, come to my house in Colombia when you're over there. We in Miami. This guy wears suits, everyday, nice guys.

I got four cops. That's my security taking me around Colombia. they stop and they go what's the address? I said you know 39, 32 you know, I had a mistake, Joe. I said, no, no, no mistake. What do you mean?

That's my friend up there. No, no, no. There's no way you're going to the house, mate. The nigger was darned of all dons of Columbia. We went up there, he had million-dollar horses, Bacepinos, nigger. They was doing shows, horses. The nigger just making a suit so big.

They had ladies doing the Sancocho Like, you know that. Them niggas, the cops stood at the bottom. They were scared to go up. The police were scared to go to the house. So I'll come back. I come back to the hotel and say, nigga, get that ball, I'll have it down.

Oh, yeah, five. You knickers in the lobby. I said, why? To connoce don't host. Gagio. I'm like, I was family. It's my, I started. For what I used to.

saying. I'm sorry. I don't mean it, Fogg. I don't mean it. I said, no, no, no, what happened? No, no, no. No, no. I'm sorry. This nigga by mistake. It's just my daughter and his daughter's, he happened to be that. And you never

know who you know. Yo, we in Miami this guy's a bit. But anyway, he's a great guy. I'm just saying that happened in Columbia. Let me tell you something I've seen the other day that made me cry. It made me here, but at the same time, I was really happy for him.

But it made me sad, too. I'm going to tell you what. Dito Nieves is one of the legends of all legends. Yeah, of course. He's like a Stephen one. That's right. Paddle of the way to explain it to you. And he showed up with Alex and Stations in the middle of La Pella and started,

you saw that last week? No, I started performing in the middle of a lot. He's doing the song. I know he does a show. I didn't see it, he does a show. And the whole hood. like Stevie Wonder decided to pull up on Harlem

pull the fucking piano out and start happy bird like that's what happened in Puerto Rico Tito Nevis the Patti LaBelle Stevie Wonder

whatever went to the middle of the hood and ripped it down it never been seen before no sounds ever in history so I'm looking because he was like a mentor

to me I love Tito and I'm looking it made me feel like for one we better appreciate Tito Nevis for two is, man, it can't know, right? And so I'm like, it scared me

at the same time I was happy. I was like, wow. Like, you know, one day we're going to get a phone call that the legends of all legends passed away. No, no, God forbid. No, not him. Yeah, yeah.

We want more health. No, we want everybody here. Yeah, yeah, that's true. We're in there. It may you. Heptat. There's a lot of. Have time.

There's a lot. There's a lot of old legends out, man. It's going to happen, man. It's a lot of old legends out. You know, because you think about, even in English, we think about certain legends that still here that we take for granted

that if they passed away, you'd be like, yo. Yeah, 100%, 100%. Now, you feel, getting the Latin Grammy. Man, that was a blessing. But you know, the funny thing is, like, okay, I was known for the Grammy, right, for Benito, Charnel.

How to develop. Develop, produce that? Yeah, develop, develop. Develop. Mark Anthony's nephew. That's my little man, fath.

He's a His clothes are great. You've seen, is that his line? That's all. I'm weird. We're Ray,

one, two, three. Yes. He's flush. Shout out to develop. That's my man and his sister. So we made the song. We was nominated for the Grammy, but I had,

I had twins that same week. So in my mind, I forgot about the Grammys. So I had the twins. I think, well, we were all, they were two months.

in NICU because they were born prematurely. So I was just every day going to the hospital, every day waking up on the hospital. Yeah, real life. Not about it. Real life. So I wake up and I just see my Instagram flooding. My phone flooded.

Say, you got a grandma. I said, oh, boy, I got a Grammy. Boom. And, like, they had asked me if I wanted to go, you know, to the Grammys. I might have, you know. But, like, I said, no, I can't leave my girl with the $2.20. You know, I was like, it was even like a thought in my head.

And in my mind's like, I've been out of many a few times. Like, that ain't going to happen. And boom. But I didn't, I wouldn't. You wish you at that moment? No, no, no. No, never, never. Those are my Grammy babies.

Like, you know, I wouldn't have been in Eddie. I got nominated for like six, seven Grammys, man. I never won shit, man. But I don't mean anything. And I ain't go with that bitch like a revolving door. Yeah, you lost already. All right. It's okay.

You like the outfit, my nigga. I'm out of here. Like, it's hard, too. Like, like, Grammy. Grammy, like, you know, when you got that, you guys competing against MJ, you know, you feel me? Like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, sometimes we got nominated. We was MJ.

Yeah, yeah. And you were shocked that we lost, I lost like the black hot bees before they had the white girl. Like, this shit was just unjustful. You know what? Flag. That's a flag. What was it?

What was the song? I had, like, lean back. This shit was, was it. Number one, 47 weeks. The niggas came, the niggas, they had freestyles or something. What was it on that one? You know, the Grammys, let's listen. We love the Grammys.

I want to win one this year, but I finally win. Give me an honorary. Something, a button, nigga, like, give me an I won the Grammy button. Give me a gold button or something. Because, yo, my man, my sister's numbered. Like, even if you're going to give me an honorary or not. You got to get him right. You got to get Joey right.

Yeah, they got to get me right. You just got to give me an honorary, a makeup call. I got like two. I should have won that flat out should have won, like all the way up. Let's get it started. Huh? Let's get it started. Well, that was good.

That would have been in. That shit is nobody. Hold on. Hold on. I take the flag, man. No, that shit gets started. Disney movie still. I remember I went to see my man in jail.

That shit played all the road. radio and everything. That shit played on 10-10 wins. I was driving up to stay. Let's get it started. I put the stand and state said, let's get it started. What? That's when you know that shit. You know what,

rest of peace, I finally got to see the Michael Jackson movie. Fucking phenomenal. You're going to love it. Was it good? Was it good? Oh, man, you're going to love it. That's incredible. If you love Michael, you're going to love this. I'll be scared to watch Michael stuff. I'll be, I'll be, you know, they be

you trying to try. Yeah, that's it. That's, that's it. You know, you know, Clive Davis, rest in peace. It's few news today. The minute you die, they start trying to throw shit on you. I had to tell somebody who's a real, a real dude. Not just a real dude. We call him the Lovings.

The nickname is the Lovies. And super of the realist dude. And we just talk to shit. And he starts, hey, you hear what they. trying to say about Clive Davis and this and that. I said, yo, listen, love you. And this guy is the dawn. I said, love him.

If you wasn't talking like that while he was alive, let's not talk about him like that now. And he caught himself so fast because he's the realest of the race. He said, yo, you know what, Joe, you're right. He said, I just, I went for the hype and I said, nah, B, because

you know, we're MJ, same shit. Anybody can do, let me tell you something. And I don't want to give people ideas, but I'll tell you something. You can go with a little bag to anybody's hood. I can go right now, let's just say, Nicky Jam. I can go to Boston where he was raised and paid 10 crackheads that lived up there for them to talk shit about Nikki Jam, his mother, his father, his dad, this, and make a documentary.

That's anywhere you go, brother. You go to my projects, you throw him $2 and shit a pack of chicken wings. Niggas would be like Fuck fat Joe He was gay His mother's a lesbian Yeah Yeah

Yeah You can't go about What these people say You gotta love the person For what You love a What happened Honorary

Yeah Jeez man God damn Man My point is They say bad shitter But you'll love The movie

If it sounds like In good You know Like you know You're gonna love The Michael Jackson It was really great His nephew

Really played A hell of a role It was really inspirational. It was really, really dope. You know, I fuck with it. You ever seen Michael Jackson concert? Nah. I'd rather seen live.

I never met Michael Jackson. Like, I probably pee on myself if I sold Michael Jackson real fucking life. I tell you something else. Huh? I'd have to be something else. Like, I'm like an MJ concert back in the day. Fuck a concert.

MJ. And anyway, you know, I sampled them. I did a song dedicated to my mother. He said, Free. He cleared this. sample same day. They was like, yo, Michael Jackson said he's a fan.

Played this shit and one day the Maria sample I used. I couldn't fucking believe for free. That's crazy. Dr. Dre, Queen Latifah, Michael Jackson, I know they're all rich.

And recently, the Biggie Estate, I sampled them, and they was like, yo, your money no good, fat, Joe. I'm about the samples

and stuff, shoot. No, I'm not alone. They're going to give it to you. I'll joke. I'll joke. I'll joke. You know what I'm saying, Lardia?

You might have to pay. That's fine. That's fire. That's fire. No, that was crazy. But Michael Jackson. MJ had everyone that's fire. I was crying.

I watched this funeral. I was in Albania. I had a show in Albania. And my door must have been opened my hotel. I'm watching a funeral. I'm crying. All my friends looked at me. They thought like something, like they never seen Joe Crack cry.

So they're looking like. Oh shit. And I'm looking at MJ's field. It was, that was like 9-11. When they said Michael Jackson died, I pulled the truck over. Right? Almost near Yonkers. I'm up there.

I was visiting my son Ryan up there by that. What's that shit? The sawgrass. Soil meal. So I'm up near there. They say that. And when I pull over and I check every radio station, like, there's a radio station here called 10-10,

wins that they only play the news. They don't play a record. They don't even play a melody. Them niggas have Michael Jackson on the Italian radio station. Michael, the Spanish, the theater. That's it. He's done. Every fucking radio thing. He wouldn't believe that at first.

They didn't believe it. Then I start changing. Then I walk in a restaurant to eat dinner after. And they playing Michael Jackson in the tight. It was like, Joe and Jada Show.com. We got new. merch fresh off the presses. Go get it. Big out of big.

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What do you hear? I feel like my job is listening really, really hard. Listen to Here's the Thing on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Talking about MJ, what did you guys like hear, listen to when you were? Y'all was growing up, you know, 16. 14, 15, Jada. What was y'all on?

I was on Kane and KRS, Rakim, L.L. Only, only, only rap? No, not. Also, R&B, Luther, Mike Jackson, Patty LaBelle, Stephanie Mills, The Whispers. Basically everything, whatever my mom's listening to.

Exactly. He came the first music that I, ever heard. So, of course, definitely. That's like, that's what's the whole saying.

You know, our Prince was into, I heard Spanish music would never really enjoy Spanish music growing up unless it was like, so. No,

but still very, like, ah, Tumacite, but who had he are orte. Left on, all,

that shit was ringing. Yeah. But I grew up in a whole black neighborhood. So, it wasn't until I went to high school. then I met a Spanish dude that lived in the

all Puerto Rican neighbor I didn't know they had the other side of it where I'm the one Spanish nigga running around I met the one black dude

running around the Spanish neighbor they playing South Sao all over they got the food I get over there and they're like Get Papa get Papa.

Get Pasa. My nigga black in it never Bobby Loh Basa I met the fat Joe of that neighborhood over there

I'm like oh shit you got a black guy that talks that. Y'all, from here, Papa, what you're talking about? And so that's where I learned Hector Laval. Okay. And I learned all the Sousa Grades,

the Willie Coulogne, the, all of them. That's where I learned salsa music. Because they was black, it was just, it was just. And before that was what was you? There was no Instagram, my nigger. So it was just like, I grew up in the black neighborhood. And then I went to a place that I didn't even know

exist where it's all Puerto Rican. Yeah. So when I went, there, they blasted salsa, my nigga. The salsa over there, it was no English over there. And when you went, when did you mean pun? Pun, punt from my hood. That's that.

As before you got to have the Puerto Rican. No, no, I already had an album out already. I was finishing my second album. You know what? I assembled, I assembled the twins joined there. I did a joint where I think was Apple or Spotify. Yeah. And they asked me to do a, and I try.

And I think, yeah, we did something. I think we did something with that. Did you go on Spanish with the dead in the middle of the little? Did you do that? I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I didn't do it.

That's, that's, that's, that's, that's. You should have did that. Boy, me, hinta, me, into ploto, lo, because of me. You should have did that shit, right? 100%. Quick game to the biggest. My, my, my, my bad, my bad. How'd you meet Pund?

Well, Pund, um, he met me. So I was like a mini-stock. I was on the rise. Right? If you looked at me, you was like, because it's floated you. The way I do is like, you got to show me. So it's like, I had one hit in the hood.

Then I'm finishing my second album. And so it was like the final day that I was finishing my album. So I go in a bodega. I come out and some niggas are rapping and puns just big guy. He said, yo, yo, yo, let me rap. So I'm like, what fuck is this nigga going to rap about? And my God, he started the, And then he stops.

And so he's going like a hundred miles from, I think you're driving a Ferrari. Sit a banana, banana, banana, banana. Snacks the moon out of the sky. And blow the sun away. Me and my niggas playing hardball, hardcore. I said, I had a Lexus 400. I opened the door so fast.

And I said, sit down, please. Sit in the car, get in the car, please. So I was there behind the scenes when I saw what Puff Daddy did with Biggie. So the fact that he was dumb nice, I knew I was going to make him like a Spanish biggie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Versace on him and all that.

So I already knew, you know, this is the guy. Nigger, this is going to be the one. So he sits in the car. You know, we drive and he tells me his life story in about 20 minutes. And then he was like, yo, let me too. Because, you know, we already was a crew. So Terror Squad was already

had a very street presence in the Bronx and all that. So he tells me, so he was a real nigger that never really had a crew. So when he's with me, he's like, yo, Teres Squad, they're going to be with me. Like I tell them what to do. I said, nigga, they're going to love you. He said, wow.

Because he knew what that was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he was like, he was born into an army. Yeah. They do whatever. He'd tell him to do. And he's crazy. So he was like, yo, I'm going to have all these crazy niggas up under me.

I was like, yeah, you're going to. And then we just became brothers right on the spy. It's really weird because I come up from the streets where I never really trusted people. You know what I mean? Like a lot of people let me down. There's bad people in the streets. And the drug game, it was, nag. It was the worst of the worst of the worst of the worst, most.

receptive niggas, the most manipulating niggas, the biggest lies you ever seen in your life, this, this, and then I gotta be the guy who tells me his life story vulnerable and trusts me from the first second I meet him

because the type of shit he was telling me you don't tell another. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? So I'm looking at him, I'm like, yo, this nigga and he was like, yo, we're going to be brothers. Right? And you're going to be my big brother? I said, yeah, I'm going to be your big brother. And we was just tight, like, it was inseparable.

Me and him, you know, inseparable. Less in peace, man. How did that feel like you when you was in Puerto Rico and you heard big pun for the first time? You knew he was Boricua. You know what's crazy, like me since, okay, I was a big, you know, I was in the States my whole life,

10 years old, came to Puerto Rico, did no Spanish. So I had to learn Spanish first. And then so when I was in Puerto Rico, like I was going vacation, I was seeing Etritito, we seen Yandel, Teigo. Dawn, you know, but I didn't know about, you know, baby ratting gringo, litigua, big pun. I had to learn Spanish first, completely learn Spanish,

and then I would go back and study, you know, okay, oh, damn, big pun, okay, oops, this, boom, boom. But as a kid, like, you know, like, you know, that was different because he was popping, like, I was in the States, he was popping. As for the Latino, like, you know, for, for a day when then, like, I would have to, you know, go back and listen again, But Big Punman, like, he always was popping

because he had commercial songs. He had songs that win. Like, I was not asking you were here, you were here, Big Pun, your feeling like, you know. But knowing he was Puerto Rico, I was Sparkers, we didn't have a lot of, like, Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican representation that would like, that would be so, you know,

put the flag on my back, you know, and about it, you know, so it was, you know, him, it was dope. You know, as crazy as the first, I never forget. the first time I, because I used to be scared to fly. Yeah, I got over with me like two years ago. I was terrified. Yeah.

And so I never used to go to Puerto Rico, why we selling double platinum. You been to Puerto Rico, Jada? A bunch of times. D.R. Yeah. Yeah, Latin America would be there allowed to you over. Yeah, five, five. You've been to Latin America?

Like, like, oh, Mexico. Argentina. I don't really, I never really did Latin America like that. They're a few times, I mean. I was experienced. You liked it over there? They show me love.

Fuck. I get love. I say, yo, what's up? Yeah, manteca, yeah. Huh, Montecaye? What do they say, Montecaye? Yeah, that nigger crazy right here.

Let me tell. Jay, that kiss. Jada, yada, y'allah, y'allah. What they say? Yadikis. Yadikis. Yadikis. Yonahahikis.

Yon, let me ask you. with the bodies in Puerto Rico, they never say fat. Bobby, tell me fat Joe. Me, yeah, Fah, why never me say Fah,

yo? No, no, my life, oh, yeah, Fah. Nuka me Dice Fad Joe. My name is Fah. Yeah, Fah,

Fah. Nobody ever says that joke. They'll be, they be doing that too. They'd be acortando the things. Dimmie Fah, Fah. Dimmel Laf. Fah.

Yeah, yeah. They say crazy, but. With me, you know, I've seen, you know, I don't want to repeat myself, but I've seen like the birth. I remember I went to Orchie Beach one day. So every Sunday we would go to Orcheech Beach. And there was a guy standing there.

He had all these chains on. And they was like, yo, that's the Puerto Rican rap. He's the nigger. I was like, really? From Puerto Rico. It was Vecor. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

So Vico, she was in Orchie Beach with a bunch of chains on and he was that nigo He was like a Jada kiss over there And over here Yeah, Vigo Vigo Vigo, Vigo's GO Came over here I seen them before I even rap

Like I seen him out of the beach He really helped that you know Puerto Rican rap You know More worldwide Yeah Vico's probably one of the first ones To the original I wasn't swimming

He was a swimmer before Yeah I was a pro swimmer I was too good at the wrong sport that may make no money. Swimming don't make no money. Have you ever been to a swim meet in your life? I never heard of a swimmer. Hosting a club.

For free. I never heard of a swimmer hosting a club. Y'all own swimmer. Only a swimmer making breath. Michael Phelps got that. You got that endorsement money. But like it does, you know, help you be more disciplined, you know, being, being good. Like, swimming is a very tough sport.

it requires, you know, physical mental. You're training like seven hours a day, probably. You're doing it out. Puerto Rico's, we always fucked up. We always chose the wrong shit. So in the hood, the black kids are fucking playing ball. They get money. We're playing handball, my nigga.

We can't get no money on handball. And Puerto Rico is like no able. Oh, my name. They ball and now. Our three sports is baseball, basketball, and boxing. You can, you can make bread. You can make that. Big bread.

There's other leagues. Baseball boxing. Boxing, yeah. But in New York, we play handball. The niggas ain't getting no money in handball. Motherfucker, Duncan, get money. They dis that, they got the record.

That's funny. My dad, that's your life. Handball sports. Yeah, my dad played that. Handball? Yeah, handball. Fucking loved it. Uncle Willie was a...

Everyone's a handball master here. Sam artist. Your Uncle Will, come on. Every time I talk about him, be some scandalous shit. Uncle Will, I love you to death. Uncle Will was so good at Hambor.

He would go to like Brooklyn, Queens, and lose two games for like $50 and then play the nigga for $5.00 or G. Sir. Uncle Will. He's the same. I only seen him lose one time, like a real. He tried to win.

And the motherfucker, some white dude out in Queens beat him for the bat. There was a bigger scammer than him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Another one. And then, Uncle Will, every Saturday and Sunday, we go, Queens. Brooklyn, the Bronx

he would go wherever and they used to bet $500 in Handboy he used to bust their ass that was actually part of his job 500 bus hangbossed a man by the bus place

I bring back home 300 you know back in them days nobody believes me but you did Compa I were $2 if you went $150 shit like that

I was big time I remember one time they almost fucked us up because they knew the fix was in lost two on purpose hit a nigga for like 300.

He beat him so bad. They chase us out. Get the money runs. Go, go, go, go. Yeah, yeah. They chase the up. They all. Fuck you up.

Get the bucket. Get the bucket. No, I'm telling you. That shit was crazy. Uncle Will was dead nice and a handball. For all the real ones out there, we keep in the 1800. What's in the future for you, man?

What's you working on? Man, we got, we just dropped, you know, Corsa. We dropped a different album. I got the trap song, got the rap songs. We got a freestyle joint that's going crazy right now. Freestyle. Yeah, freestyle.

Like Judy Torres. Yeah, freestyle. Smart. Yeah. I said, man, the last time I heard someone do that in a line, I've been like a good two years trying to get the perfect. Because to do that, it's not the same thing, like a rap, you know, you got to really lock into it.

Like with me, Anita. Okay. And Calid and sample Stevie B. Okay, okay. And so we, we, I tried that. It's dope. But the freestyle's going hard. It's one of the most hardest songs in the album.

We got the deluxe coming soon. Netflix. For Corsa. Blow dig for Corsa. Yo, why I think this is a 100? Why don't think he's got to get nasty. Yeah, y'all. Saloo, salo, salo.

Brother. 1800. Corsa. I'm going to drop a couple of my apologies to see you. That's your head. Ray Mercer. Boom in the chest. Ray Mercer, that's a hit, boy.

I'm a job of a few more joints this year, you know. I got some more, you know, American collabs, you know, trying to, you know, keep on building that bridge, you know, also. I like that. Yeah, I think it's all about doing the correct collab. You know, you got collabs that, that word, collabs that don't. I love to join with you in future. Was it originally your song first?

Yeah. Did a remake? I dropped that first. It went crazy. That shit stupid. And I said, man, we got opportunities. My team said, you have opportunities with a future. What you guys say? Hey, we're doing,

Mbapet. That's one of the songs. And it gave me... What does that mean? Mbapet. The Kiliam, the song, Embapa. You know, it's my neighbor. In Miami, he lives in my building. He's killing the middle.

My guy. Fire, fire. That's the home. He lives in my building. My man, then, he'd be with his family. His wife is a good friend. He lives in my building. The African...

Yeah, yeah. a white wife with blue eyes. I got a great way. He was great. Not a girlfriend, not the one I'm talking about. The one I'm talking about, I got a whole family. Maybe I'm blowing him up. Is that messy? Messy? I'm messy.

The black dude, he got a hundred million followers. He's killing them, niggins. Rich keeps saying, yo, your man, hit another one. He lives in my building, guys. Okay. In Miami. I think it was in Moppy. Right.

And he didn't even France, Paul. He's French. He's African. In French, yes. No, he's He's supposed to be a That's it. Find a soccer player that lives in

He got kidding The one I'm talking about Told me old story He got kidnapped by his own brother in Africa. Oh, he's talking about Bogba. Who? Porkba.

You know he's my name. Okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blah. Pulba. Pulba. And they're killing them right now. No, but he's a beast.

That's my God. Yeah, Pokobos is a beast. That's, that's... Fuck you talking about. He told me all they kidnapped. He's hooping, he hooping. He hooping. He's hooping.

I ain't the only nigga got kidnapped in Africa. They kidnapped him. His own brother. You heard, Kishapen. Yes. Shout out to Paul. Chalbos. Him, my man.

That's a hooper. That's a hoopin in Miami. That's a hoopper. That's a hooper. He's a hooper, right? Yeah, you go crazy. A nigga go crazy. You know, I don't know nothing about football or soccer.

And all I know is every time I see him, everybody be bugging. Like, yo, that niggas is the niggie, yo. He's the, I'm like, but I don't know. You know what I'm saying? So what you want me to do? He's just the nicest guy in the world. Oh, his wife's the nicest lady. The kids are beautiful, beautiful family.

I hung out with him a bunch of times on the yacht, everything. I hung out with him. Damn, I don't even know his name. What's the name? Porcaba, pokerba, poggab. Holdba. Yeah. about a good guy.

What team he played for? I hope he didn't call him. Bobby on the vote. He's playing for French? Oh, no, he's not playing now? Well, why Rich is telling me, oh, so that's the wrong nigger. The guy, I'm talking about

the guy I'm talking about still killing. Oh, he ain't killing them like that no more. He got a trouble for something, steroids or something. And then now that he came back, he ain't got the fluidity like that.

Wow. Well, Rich is lying to me. Rich keep telling me, your man is killing me. Show me a nigga making a kid. Yeah, but he be lying to me. Yo, your man's World Cup killing them niggas right there.

Maybe he's confused. He thought he saw him by the World Cup. Any team in the world. They don't got to be front row. They don't got to be nothing, but I need them, though. Okay, thank you, brother. You need to go. It's right here, right?

Yeah. You need to experience at least one game, but that's the story. You know, I got a jersey. I don't even know who's it for. You never went to a soccer game? I want to go to a one. Hey, just know, there's no, you're never going to see in a basket. Maybe I can even say, not even like the next.

Not even not in basketball. That's like with a real, like, voice, fans. You get fucked up. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. You tell you where the. only place on turf, I experienced that,

was the UM championship game, where half the crowd was the other college, half the crowd would dash. Oh, but college, yeah, college. Great. Oh, no, no, the football. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I'm in there.

It was like 70. You was with us that night. That shit was, I've never been to that. Like, where half the crowd is half the crowd. They're going for everything. That shit, that was exciting. Like an Argentina-Colombia game or one of those joints. That's, you know, just remember, like, there's a lot of those people that, like, that are here in the U.S.

that haven't been back home in a while. So they be going there, like, that's like a piece of the name. I bought a jersey, a fly fucking soccer. I don't know what team. And I bought some sneakers to match it. And I'm going to wear that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you rock that fit. I got to just wear it.

You got to rock that fit. For the people one time. You know what I'm saying? A little cup. World Cup tracks. All right, it's time. Yo, check this out. This ain't that?

That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Goddemma, give it up. And let you. Oh, yeah, fire. He's been far. This is Michael Rappaport, and my podcast,

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