The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Erick Sermon talks 'Dynamic Duos' album: Tupac, Biggie, Mobb Deep, Snoop & more

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by legendary rapper and producer Erick Sermon, and Sermon tells Joe and Jada about his illustrious hip hop career with EPMD alongside PMD and DJ Scratch, selling over 70 million records working with superstars like Jay-Z, Method Man, LL Cool J, and D'Angelo, the surprising way he met Redman, and his missed opportunities to get in early to sign future legends like Nas, The Notorious B.I.G., and Wu-Tang Clan. Sermon also talks about his upcoming project 'Dynamic Duos,' which features a star-studded lineup of paired legends like Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls; Prodigy and Havoc of Mobb Deep; Snoop Dogg and Nate Dogg; Method Man and Redman; and Billy Danze and Lil Fame of M.O.P. 5:30 - Erick Sermon co-signs Rewind It 10 10:00 - EPMD's albums, production & sampling 14:00 - Meeting Redman & missing out on signing Biggie, Nas & Wu-Tang 35:30 - Fat Joe wonders what would've happened if he'd moved to Atlanta 38:00 - Watching Nas & Jay-Z build billion-dollar empires 48:15 - Artists that bailed on features 53:30 - Eddie Murphy documentary 1:01:00 - Fat Joe's falling out with his lawyer & accountant 1:04:00 - Erick Sermon explains how Spotify & streaming platforms rob artists 1:10:00 - 'Dynamic Duos' & Pharrell's lawsuit 1:27:00 - Erick Sermon plays 3 tracks off 'Dynamic Duos' [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] Joe and Jada now on Patreon All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is Joe Crack. Yes. It's your boy, Jaina. Yo, sir. You know what it is. The Joe and Jada show, every show legendary, every show iconic, and we never let you down. Today's guess, when you think of hip-hop,

when you think of style, fashion, iconic, when you think of one of the first Sonically voices that drove everybody crazy. When you think of camaraderie chemistry. When you think of production, when you think of a mentor that created a motherfucker conglomerate in the dynasty way back before people was even doing that kind of things

with their labels and artists. When you think of somebody that's underrated for those that must have been under a rock or just stupid, but you know what I mean? He don't really get mad because he gets to the bag and the bags get to him. So what? When you think of underrated,

You're just thinking one of the people, one of the pillars in hip-hop that never fades away. He always finds a way to get to the vault. I know. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Eric Sherby. First of all, I got to say. That's true. That intro was Joe, he, that's not, it wasn't you.

He ain't fucking with me. It wasn't you, though. He ain't fucking with me. What? Right? No, you ain't. Yo, that's a great intro, but. You want to pull it back in?

You want to try to top that, pause. First of all, I. I ain't get the memo or the camel. Y'all look like y'all joined MAGA and shit. Yeah, yeah, but that's some other camera. Your motherfucking'am fucking. Jam. Jam.

You know, say, no, his stuff. Give him the whole shit. He looked like the Count of Monte Cristo. That's fantastic. That's it right there. In the hat. That's the Count of Monte Cristo. In the hat.

This motherfucker look like he killed the whole community right now. This thing is crazy. Yo, Eric Sherman, a genius. That's the words he missed out. You're fucking genius. You're ahead of your... He didn't say the word genius. No.

No. I'm trying to tell you something. There's talent. No, you've tried. His name is Eric Sherman. Not Sherman. But that's how Joe Penel. What do you want me to do?

You already threw the flag? That's a legit flag. I just had to thought. I've been calling the Maryland Sherman my whole life. A lot of people. I take that one back. Okay. I take that back.

There's a lot of people that says that. I don't correct everybody. You took it back. I took it back. I took it back. You took it back. You grabbed it back. The flag.

Rewound it. Eric Sherman. The word I got to use is genius. Ahead of his time. Musically, production-wise, pause blows my mind to this day when I listen to EPMD. A pause, bro. A pause.

First. Damn. Well, everybody knows that. You motherfuckers got this camouflage. John, you want to shoot the plates up. Hold up. Hold up. Let me... The motherfucker for to shoot the plates up, huh? Let me do a sidebar real quick.

This is crazy. So Just for Men is my go-to, right? Not no more. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me finish. Don't do that. Let me finish. Joey, I'm going to throw two flags. Listen, I didn't give it a shot, right?

So I gave it a shot because the Just for Men wasn't in CBS. So I see your shit, right? I said, I don't know if Joey's shit. is correct. We number one. Okay. You know what? Get,

Eric, no, go to clap, it's not letting you. So, I get rewind, right? I'll open up the box.

And I'm like, oh shit, he got two for the price of one in the year. So now, now, now,

now you got me. So now, I try it. And I'm like, yo, this shit is just as ill, but it lasts. It's the rose voice of head coloring.

Listen, I'm here not to give you the plug because you plugged all the time. But to tell niggas, it's the truth. Organic. You know, see, I'm never going to show my gray. Girls like it. They're like, you're sure. Nileers.

They're liars. I'm never going to show it. They want you off the market. Eric, they want you off the market. No. Off the top. This right here is the truth. Go back to the genius.

No, but thank you. Thank you. It's the truth. It's the Rose Royces, double the product. And actually, our numbers are better than their numbers. Yeah, but what do you give these? You know, I was a customer that, and it's the monia free. So black and brown people who will be breaking out.

Most of them won't ever break out without product. Some other product makes people get bumps going to the hospital. Oh, that's a fact. It never happened to me. I've been painting my shit since I'm 20 something. And you come with a fucking shit to remove. Yeah, you're the remove. Like, yo, you went all out.

Yo, see, kiss them. Yes. He'll know about this part. Yes. Kiss, you, you ain't there yet. You know what I feel like right now? I feel like Eddie Murphy. Fuck you, yes.

Fuck you, too. Nah, it's the shit. It's the hottest shit smoking, man. I think. It's not hype. No, it's not hype for niggas. And, yeah, yeah, CBS, Alley, you know what I'm saying? Stop for Shop.

Yeah. You know, now, let's go back. Kiss, let's change the subject again. Okay, yes, I was involved in selling over 70 million records. That that means that when you count all the albums up that I was involved in, that ends up at that type of number. I just want to put that flex out there for a thing that I want to talk about that. But why you think that people don't give you your props

or you're not really appreciated like you should be? I think that, again, if we were to have had this type of social media, back then, it would probably be more, you know, more talked about, you know, probably. You know, but we didn't have it, so people just heard records. It wasn't about the producer, about the artist. Nobody know who made shit. You know, until Pete Rock, we mixed, you knew about that, but as far as the action production. Listen, when me and Paris came in, we thought that we, everybody that we heard made their songs.

I didn't know what the producer was. I just made the records because we had the rhyme on it, so we, you know, we made the song. afterwards, we were like, y'all producers. We had no clue. We thought that everybody we heard made their records. That's damn. I believe that because, you know, in Flojo, I did Flojo all three verses and hooks without a punch.

I didn't know what a punch was. So everybody knows fat Joe. And then when it come, everybody, you got a Flojo, they're in the booth with me. You got a Flojo. Everybody knows such a... I didn't know what a punch was. I never could do a studio.

Me and Powers came from side by side in the mic like this. Wow. Like this. Wow. So we didn't have no, we didn't have enough. We didn't have enough tracks. So we had to do that. When they got time to do the mixing, you would go up and down if I was low or higher,

whatever, but this is what we did. You know, like this. There was no other nothing. You guys made some of the greatest music ever created. I remember me hustling me in the streets, me taking, they had these calves called OJs. Right? So in the Bronx, you could rent the OJ for $25 an hour, right?

So when you was hustling and you made enough money, if you ain't owned shit yet, I'm talking about crack era, it wasn't a heroin, it wasn't big money. You rent the OJ for four hours. So a guy like Jada would just smoke his weed, chilling. Me, I'm in the back. What was you in the, see?

No, no, I'm just. saying that's why you guys you smoke with that he like smoking that he like he's oh he like he like smoking that shit he would have been in the oj smoking his shit they would have been driving them around you listen to hip-hop i'm going to spanish home to see my girlfriend over there and uh 106 and first in the oj the beeman shit but i'm pumping ebmd it's a different you know when you ain't got it but you just getting it you're selling a couple of cracks making three hundred dollars and you know what i'm saying you ain't really got it you know what you're just getting it you're saying you ain't but you're sitting in the back of a beam

where you stick in your face. You know how the dogs stick in your face out the car to get the air? You're sticking your face out there shit listening to EPMD, kid and play. It's all 88. Bismarkey is a 88. You know what I'm saying?

Those are classic times for me. I like to know that... He was too young. You assembled... No, I got one. No, no, he can know what time is. My uncle, rest in peace, Tom G. He was like an ill one of my illest uncles. And he had the white Selica.

The Selznick picked me up. The system was crazy. Take me downtown, 1205th Street. It's the mixtape, rocking will, all of that. I remember one of his favorite tapes that shit had, it's my thing on.

He kept just playing, and I'm like, This is my thing. I just told him, play it all the way back to Yankees. I remember that. And I got all to y'all, and I showed you.

Your music selection of samples. Where does that come from? Your moms, your pops. Yeah, my dad had a bunch of records. One thing about me and Paris is nobody would never believe it, though, but we didn't know about digging, you know, as far as, you know, going to get records and have record stores. We long out and we don't have that type of situation.

Whatever was in front of them speakers, because don't forget, back then, the records was against the wall unit. So whatever that was over there, we took to the studio. The other Paris had his crib, he took to the studio. So the records that was there was, again, Parliament, of course, you know, Earth with the Fire, BT Express, the whole announcement. So what you hear?

Jane Brown. You hear, do you hear, you got the whispers, you got Parall the Bell, you got, you know, those type of records. Earth with and Fire, you know, whatever, you got those. One record we got from the label when we signed the Stephen Back records, we got from that was sitting underneath their record player, you know. So there was no digging. Whatever that was in at the crib is what we sampled.

Man, that was the best samplings. And it's my thing, too. Of course, break piece was out too back then. So prior to the DJ, he had those. So we had the brakes. That's where Jane came from. That's Joe Tex. It's my thing that means the punk, the whole nine.

But again, we made these songs and we didn't know how to make a chorus. So our records was just going like this. The label called Ted and Special K to come to Long Island. Island. He says, give me that record you, that you sample, it's my thing from. So seven Mr. Funk, right? Because we just got the sample going, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, it's going. It's my thing, going. None of it, no, no antics, no nothing. They come in

and they get to the part where it goes, particular, particular, but do them, bent, ben, bam, So I'm like, okay, they had the indent when the chorus is coming in. That's when I learned how to make a chorus. Before that, I had no clue. So I owe them that. Because now when I'm making you a customer, now I'm going, get down, get down.

But time keeps on slipping. So I'm knowing how to format now. How does EPMDD readman? How does Eric Sherman meet Redman? We had a show at Clebson sensations in New New Jersey, which is like being in Brooklyn or being in someplace where... We know what New York... Shout out the Newark.

Shout out to the bridge. Yeah, we shout up to the bridge. If you're not in that place, you can get robbed in that place. Big time. Right. So we go backstage and I see Do It All from Los Underground. He rhymed for me. At the defense rhyme, he says, you're my DJ rhyme, right?

It's Reggie. No. So Reggie said... Oh, he was their DJ? He was his DJ. Yeah. That's it. So before those are underground, this was through it all. I said, go ahead and say something.

He says, I float like a butterfly, sting like the rock rule. He didn't say Muhammad Ali. So I stopped him. You immediately was like... Put him on stage that night. Didn't even know him. Now, the crowd's saying, yo, what's a red man doing up there?

There's the people that knew him for knew it. But that's how my thing was. I already knew it was special because he didn't say, sting like Muhammad Ali. He said, float like a butterfly, sting like the rock group. When I first met Murray,

it took one of them lines. Let's squash the beef cooker and we all can get fat. So all I saw was a hamburger so-and-so rising whatever in my head. Metaphores.

That's why when Nas came to me, when he was doing the Elmatic, I gave him seedless beats because I didn't understand Queensbridge because my rhyme is was one of the S-P-E-L-O solo Dassefix.

Wicked D. Wow. Redman. I got A's bitch. These are metaphor people. My only regret not to go in someplace else is me not taking nods seriously because when they left me

with the Pete Rock's house. Damn. You had a chance, dude, to be on that album. I want to put this out here too for those don't know about this. Only on Joe and Jadet. Exactly.

Somebody bought Biggie Small to the barbershop in Brooklyn. And listen to him. Mm. You should get a tattoo with two strikes on your own. Yeah, you go to here.

Yeah, I know. Fuck! I'm sorry, Eric Sherman. Okay. Again. Fuck! So this is two mistakes. Illamatic I could have been on.

Biggie, I wasn't paying attention to him. I went to Staten Island because Bernard father was a pastor to Staten Island I got a picture with me and Wutang in in 1989

with all them in my Iraq and I mean Paris had twin iraqs right took a picture me and Ray Kwan went to go sit

his name was his name was Shalada and we sat down on his step at his building I was going to sign Ray Kwan

he talks about that too I could have Wu Tang clan and my mom was too young for that I get it So Teflon, Rick Ross, I had Tony Traebert put him to my crib.

Rick Ward slipped in my basement for months. I didn't take him seriously. He could rhyme. This is this rappers that I had. It's the time when you're feeling like you're going to put an artist out of work with him or you could be going through other shit where you just not focused on...

I already got money. I got my own groups. So again, I'm a hell of, I'm going to help you, but my focus wasn't there. I'm living next door to Corey Rooney. He knocks on my door, and next to him is Curtis Jackson. Curtis Jackson comes in, we go in the basement, we make five records, and then we make heat waves.

We don't do it like we do. That was his first single before he got shot. So that, too, was, again, they brought that to me. But something happened. He's just the rappers that came to me. First, Lunacris knocked on my door for a month. In Atlanta, when you was already in Atlanta?

But again, I looked at him as Reggie, so I didn't take it seriously, neither two at the time. My boy, D-Mack brought the game to Fox Hills Mall. I told Game, Spitz of 16, he didn't know what the 16 was. Go to Vibe Magazine. You know on Cap.

Whatever. He tells the people, yeah, I was going to sign with Eric, but he wasn't ready. Let me keep going to rap. I mean, I don't know that many people that got my story of those emcees that came to me, Uno, first, that I could have. But you know, I could have, sorry, the crew you did assemble. Red Man, Keith Mary, K. Solo.

Das effect. Daz effects? You signed Daz Effects? You signed Daz Effects? Yeah. They won effects. That's the Eric Sherman B? I'm in the chorus. the live effects. They want a neck for some lava. That's me in the chorus. Let me tell you something.

Their second single they say, because you didn't know my flow, fat like Joe, like Joe. Oh, my. I used to love that shit. When that shit, come on. And Kiss is throwing flags. Come on now.

Take them shit back, man. Yeah, but I ain't know that. I didn't know that. I did not know the Daz effects. So when you did all the posse times... Everybody's no hitmaker. Listen. Right?

Six months I had him in the crib. Or hitmaker? Six months. Oh. Talks about that story, too. I got to remember the people. It's a lot of people. I got to flex one time because I don't talk.

I know. There's nobody like me. I don't go for who out there? When it comes to, no, no, no, when it comes to, listen, because again, people talk about shit, the niggas don't talk. I'm talking now. Fucker all the hip-hop. Talk.

My R&B, invogue, Joddice, Marege, Blas, Chico DeBarge, DeG, DeAngelo, for fucking, keep sweat. Fucking Brownstone, Angie Stone. I was doing R&B as much as I was doing hip-hop records. But again, if you don't know, Black Street or Booty Call, that was my day first single. It's no, everybody called me. When I was doing Black Street, Farrell was in the corner. It's a record on YouTube right now.

I let Farrell rap with somebody. It's called Boot-knacklingization. I know it's the ill name. But again, that's a point. It is. It is. But again, I looked at Farrell and I was going to do that, but I took Dave Hollister from Black Street. Dave Hollister was the man.

And I did the first two albums. And then two, Afarzo Hunter, niggas though they look over that. You know, like, this is, this is, they, they're not me, nigger. I don't get fuck, who out there? The niggas, I hear them talk. I got to do it on y'all's show. Because, again, y'all had big names. Callet, Cardi.

You know, this is, this is Sierra. This is big names on this show. You got the biggest. The biggest. Like water. And no, there's a big name. Shutting them down. No, but listen.

That doesn't know. No, no, no. This show right here is out of control. And whenever I try to do a favor, it's like, it's a favor. Right. So there's certain people who are legends who are whatever, but I already know the people we turn down. Right.

So when they come, I'm like, how do I sneak them on this motherfucker? They snuck up the, two Jewish guys on me. Jada kissing these motherfuckers. Two Jewish guys came up on. They sat in here. They did that. On the show.

Am up on. Those other partners. Yo, the motherfuckers. Yo, the motherfucker stuck up on this shit. Like, I said, what the fuck is going on here? They sat down. Jewish guys came with their own mic. Niggas sat down.

They had their own mic. Yo, this, this, that. This. I said, yo, how these motherfuckers? Furness that This is a heavily secured building Yeah

I didn't finesse it They came in I didn't know somebody It's right Yeah I knew the fix was in But you know I'm cool

I'm cool with everybody getting they shine Everybody getting They spot- No the show is big So again You know I did pause

But listen You know what Why am I doing this I'm not even with that You brought me No no No no no No you know why

Because this show Because you do it No Yeah you do Problem with is his favorite choice of meal at the concert or about the pork? Nah. Yeah. I mean, food is good, though.

I'm true, too. The culture, you see Big Daddy Cain post in himself eating the glitz. They're starting to send me shit. De Veggie. Yeah, yeah, it was different. Yeah, yeah, it was different. It was different. A snowing fiber god.

Hey, you know, he's sure that was a Hebrew national. Who changed the on Seif? Who changed the word from the hot dog paws? Who changed it? The new generation. Okay. Well, the new generation got everything fucked up. They are out here.

You can't wear Air Force One now. Air Force One's his grandfather sneaking. I don't care what they say. Yeah, they're bugging. They're fucking. They're acting like you work in the hospital. They already try to abolish the Black. They can't do that even.

Why you have a look at the UFO and said, fuck you. Right. This is the first time in my life. They could do the dumbest shit you ever seen. Paint their hell or wild shit. I don't do. Whatever they do, I'm like, God bless.

The Air Force is the old man, fuck you. They stop being your money. Fuck you. Did they stop being money? I don't give a fuck about stopping the money. It's just now is less. I know.

Yes, too much. Over top. Over the top. You know what Mark Wahlberg tells me. What? Sylvester Stallone tells me. Yo. All in bread don't tells me.

Joe, go ahead, Joe. You want me to flex and not. This is what this shit is Big up yourself. Yes. You have freedom, Joe. The podcast allows you to have a freedom. You have no boss.

You need freedom. Stephen A. Smith came and sat there and was like, yo, you guys are envy you guys. Because I work for a big corporate company. You guys up here, you could do whatever the fuck you want. You have freedom. That's what this show is about. It's having freedom.

We could talk about whatever the fuck we want to talk about. certain instinct. It's an visible line, you know. And so my thing is, my thing is, right, what's going on by now, it happened in every, in every level. You know, when we're kids, unfortunately, I'm sorry everybody. We were coming up. We young gangsters 14, 15.

We had to beat up the guys that was legends that was already 21, 22 years old in order to get a name out there. That's how you make your name in the street. So I see what the young kids are done. doing, they're like, man, fuck, these guys are trying to run shit today 100 years old. Let's start with the Air Force. The old man's shit, they're trying to date us. And we are here talking to my nine, we're trying to still get the bag right now.

Like, you're trying to, you know, they're doing that. They're trying to consciously, the youth is consciously trying to make us old niggas. That's it. They try. And they do it. And they do it. They run that age shit a lot. A lot.

But we don't care because... Even with music, too, they be like, you know, you rhyme instilled or you... It's like this, man. I know, I know. They don't... And they fall. Yeah, I know. But they do that for some reason.

When it's so rich, guys. When it ain't and ain't. I'm sick. Rich, you lost the battle. You know, I'm kicked up. My nigga. Yeah. That's one thing that Joe Gons let you know is about that bread.

No, I'm just... I don't let people know right now. Don't come from me. Somebody tried to come from me because I don't speak about money, right? I fucked around and went on a drink chance when the mistake. I was trying to teach the kids

about owning their publishing, right? About what you can, if it come back to you, you know what I'm saying, what can happen? So when weekend sampled the record, because I was making the money from Mario Wieners,

I don't want to know anyway. I probably was making like $100,000, something like that. I don't want to know. Back then. But the weekend, one of the biggest stream of dollars in the world streamed 1.9 billion streams.

So my check was $250 grand every three months. Right, for 4% owners. Just for that. Right, for that. You know, I don't cap on nothing. No, you got bread. No, no, but I don't talk about it. So if I don't have it,

then you don't know I don't have it. You know? I've been buying houses since I was 20. This is not, this is a flex. I've been rocking a road since I was 18. This is not something that that was, Since it was new as far as how people talk about things, about whatever. I had, I was buying houses in the land and I wasn't even living in. Apartments, the whole not, I never even saw them.

Look at certain things because it's not a black of scientists and know if you look at, okay, here's the deals that Eric is making in these companies. Okay, Murray's at Jive, Reggie's at Def Jam, Afonzo's at DreamWorks, this and that, whatever, how, Afonzo's at EMI. So if you see me on that, then I got my own group. Right? So now these are all these advances.

I own all the publishing, like I own my publishing now. So all this stuff you look at, whatever, not a rocket scientist. But I don't have to tell you that. But if you're going to look at it, then you look at it. But I know one thing that I determined the long time ago, these young cats, it only respect got back. Right.

Now, if you were broke, nice, nigger, they ain't even giving it out. They're not. They're not. They're looking past you. The only thing they respect. When I see Lil Lotto, young Lado, she'd be like, you get to me. When I see these youngs, the ones that do respect me, they be like, get to me. The young ones are getting it, though.

That's what I'm saying. They came in a time where the money is heavy for them. It wasn't like that fuss. We had the hustle. Lojo, I got, it was number one in the country. I was getting $500 a show doing the Chitlin circuit. Philly, the Bronx, Yankees.

Next week, Virginia, D.C., the fucking North Carolina, like, you know, 1500, like... EPA. His first record deal was $1,500. I got $7.50. I got $7.50. I went to Marshals, and I went to grocery store. That means, thanks, Cindy.

That thing. They bought a key... I don't keep going to me. They bought, they caught their advance, and they bought a key of Coke, took it up the Yonkers. Baltimore. Baltimore? Who y'all did?

He did. Say the story, right. I'm telling you. Baltimore. It wasn't so feasible. Right? 10,000 for three people ain't so feasible even.

I know what I'm saying. I'm not against. Wait, wait, wait, wait. What year was that, though? 90-something nervous. 3,000. That ain't a lot of nothing. Well, my first apartment was $6.50.

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We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas.

And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.

And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about, about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game.

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because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. Then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball.

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Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip, just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda audits. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? They had a bogo.

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That's the kind of conversation we're having every episode. Listen to the Radio 831 podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Bad Joe, the apartment that we had in Jersey, I had one of them, too. Never spent one day in it. Never did. No, one day. Man, I was jealous because you already, you know, I moved to Miami 20 years ago, one of my biggest. Right.

You know, you said you could have signed? Yeah, one of my biggest decisions I don't regret Miami, but within myself, when I land in Atlanta, I feel like I'm at home. Birds chirping. I love it. I love the people. I love the atmosphere. I love the food. I love everything about Atlanta.

And I always wondered, did I make the right move when I moved to Miami rather than Atlanta? If I would have went to Atlanta, I would have signed all of them. Right. The future to this one. Right, right. Right, right. Everybody. Out of clean house in that bitch, they would have been calling me, you know, the king or something. Because I was signing.

I signed DJ Callie. I signed Big Pun. I signed Remy Ma. Could have signed Eminem. Could have signed Rick Ross. Could have signed Bit Bull. The list is going. Smokey Rob.

Right? But in Atlanta, we got to get Smokey to wear some rewind. If Smokey could do it, let me tell you something. You know, any good thing, they laugh at you. Right. Why are you doing it? And then when you get that bag, they come and tell you how much of a jealious you are. They say, yo, man, you always know, Joe.

You always know. When they hear this shit, the type of numbers this shit doing, they're going to be like, and I've been keeping everything. Right. No. But we are number one in CVS. We're the number one product of CVS, the number one.

I just mention it to you. No, no, but the number one. Okay. You could buy toothbrushes. You could buy medicine. You could buy this, this, this, this. That's shit smoking them. Number one.

The other brand you mentioned, got 70s. You said the other brand you mentioned. The other brand you mentioned, their boxes got 70s porn stars. You know what I'm saying? A motherfucker. A motherfucker's an outdated, flat.

You're saying, this is that new shit or double the potter. Yeah. I'm telling you. No, I just, I told you about it. I'm working. I don't give a fuck. Now, you want to talk about my era.

I came in the game. Jay-Z. Naz. No, no, no. No, no. Lojo was early, man. Yeah, but it was the same era. No, way before Jay-Z.

Jay-Z. This is 96. Jehovah. I'm 93. Okay, West. What I'm trying to tell you is I came in there. When I was already in the game, making my $500, making my $500, these guys came into the game young. I watched them build billion-dollar empires.

I watched Puff Daddy. Puff Daddy had the most visible see-through chain you ever seen in your life. I met Puff Dattie when he was promoting parties. Right. Before Biggie Smalls, before he had anything. So he used to run up to me when I was. was in my beamers and beds and, yo, he's my flyer.

When he's promoting clubs, you mean back then? Here's my flyer, buddy, for my party and this. And I watched these guys build billion-dollar empires. And I finally had to sit back and go, yo, it's time to invest. It's time to bring out products. It's time to so chisarum, rum you could love. It's time to do real business, you know. And so that's where I'm behind the eight ball when you talk about the people I watch

come in after me and fuck. fucking get to the back, to the bag, bag, back. But nobody told us. See, if you didn't do that, nobody was told you shit. Nobody told us. Those people just happened to know. My man told me to make clothes after Carl Kinai. I looked him like he was crazy.

I'm breaking clothes up. I'm a rapper. I make music, you know? But he had the idea, but I never looked at it like that. That was a lot to do with it, too. When you felt like, you know, my brother, rest of peace, Raoul was almost two years since he passed. But he had a lot.

Raul told me, because Raul was the cameramanman, Raul told me something that I thought was the dumbest shit you ever heard in the like. He said, bro, every time you perform, I see you drinking water. Why don't we sell water? This is before anybody

sold the water. Fuck hip-hop. I'm not talking about bite of water. Water used to get for free from the pump, from the fucking water machine, this. And it was like, yo, we should sell water. I'm like, man, no bite. That sound crazy.

Fucking water, nigga. Like water, water is free. Nah. I'm telling you, if you saw what. He had a couple of ideas prematurely ahead of time that we didn't take serious. How we took him serious. I mean, when I go to his, to the grave all the time, I always tell him. I say, yo, Raul, man, you really have some ideas.

Like, he had some ideas that could have put us in the game a long time ago, but we ain't really listened to him. You know what I'm saying? We wasn't thinking on that level. We was trying to be rappers. Right. Because you had the idea for a long time for you, but you did that.

My dad, he was in coffee for my whole life. Oh, okay. Food's early back in the day. He was always telling me, yo, you got to do your own. We got to do it. I was brushing them all. We thought, we know,

I tell him shit, he don't listen to me. You know, my man came to get me, my man came to give me, John Singleton, came to get me to be three people. You know, I was supposed to be who's in Shaq.

John Singleton was in the Bronx, Jimmy's Bronx Cafe. Every day begging me to be in the movie Shaft. I was supposed to be in glory. I had to do so. So I told Denzel, go holding. You know, shit. There was wrong with them, man.

I'm telling you the truth. I had so many opportunities. I was too busy being the Jimmy's, being a rapper. I was like, yo, acting. I don't give me. Even to this day, my sister, me, she's doing the movie right now. I feel bad for her.

I'm like, damn, that's the... She's like, yeah, 18-hour days and all. Like, acting is almost torture. It's like, it's fun. It's great. I think it lasts longer than music, to be honest with you. You have, like, a fucking hit movie. Like, if you have, like...

Hey, Joe, I'm not mad at the movies with you on the sofa with the gun in the sofa. I'm not mad at that film. I'm not mad at you, too, in the jail on the camera when you was talking, like, see, I fuck with you with them shit, B? But you know what happened? I had a minute in Juice, B, I was a star.

Did they rob me, but I was a star in the bar and turned around? But my thing is, I love those moments, right? Shout out she's got to have it. I love those moments. The problem is I'm not the boss. Right. So right now we're joking and we're like, y'all, let's go. Over there, it's like, they was waiting me up six in the morning

and my scene was at 10 at night for fucking high school. Yo, they were slaving me, B, and then I get to the hotel. Like, you remember how your dad used to go home, like, sleep with the clothes on and shit. And that's what I was doing. And then they wake me back up. 5.30, 6 o'clock, the van's coming to get you. I do the same shit. I go over there and wait to 9 o'clock at night to shoot the scene.

They had Joe Crack, the rapper. You know, I remember your man used to pick on me, Kevin Harbors, come, yo, it's ain't the studio. You ain't rapping. Wake up. I'm like, oh, shit. Like, the acting's a whole different. what they do to you. But I love to finish you.

This right here is tangible. Now, for those who don't know, I got a company called Death Ruggs. I've been doing death rugs for eight years. Oh, yeah, I got my runs. Every last one of y'all. So I don't know if you got it. Joe, yeah, folks, again, right.

See, I want to do the flex thing. I got this too much. Niggas, talk about what they do. The niggas is not me, nigger. They're not me. I got to deal with Levi's that come out January. You know, Nodge just did. They signed two people.

They did him and did the EPMD, right? I need that. We got to buy that, Danny. I know that shit going to be crazy. I have a Netflix, not Netflix, stars, documentary series called 88 First that's coming in February, right? Wow, I want to see that. This is the silent part of whatever,

because this is how the quiet, because I'm an introvert at first. But on this show is where I decided to, say, okay, you know what? Because you brought it up of underratedness. So I'm doing it, you know? They don't hear me speaking, so I'm speaking now. And since this is what you not have to do, what people are doing,

I'm doing minds at this type of switch. You know what, this is your home. You know what's crazy? De La Soe came in and they kept laughing. It was like, yo, this is my favorite show. I can't believe I'm sitting here. No, it is. Looking at my favorite show.

No, there's people. They sitting there like, yo, I'm looking at my favorite show. What the fuck I'm doing here? Yo, this is great. This is your house. Everybody that knew on my schedule, right, and going to mention all the names, too. When this name came up, they were like, oh, word.

Yeah, this is what it is. We're the realest. We're the most authentic. We're the most realest. We're preserving the house. Fucking on us to do. This is that. We pay homage to the true legends.

Yeah. We got true right now. We got Bill and me. We ain't fronting on the legends. This is water. This is lick. I got you. Come in here,

you lay on the couch, you do what the fuck you want. This is your house. This is the house that you built. Me and him, we just here, enjoying the time. We get to sit with our legists.

Navigate. Navigate. Yeah, and it's different levels of legend. Okay, I got you. So, Dela So come here. You come here. I start by saying, you're a genius.

Right. Right. I mean, to the people who don't think I'm capped and take my word for anything, I told them, What's a fucking genius? What he's even able to do is out of this world.

Like, I'm amazed. You know, I get amazed by some of the guests that come here like you. And I see it here. And every time I talk to you, I know you always quiet. You mind your business. But, you know, you put in that pain in this game. Shout out my brother Opie Megatron, man. He plays EPMD every day.

He puts you on his Instagram every fucking day. And so there's people who really. I love you, man. Opie, love you, man. Everybody, people really, really love you and your contributions to the game, ain't for you. We ain't got no red man. Some man named, he passed away. I think he was used to be with you

back in the days. He was role manager. Big up. Oh, Alvin Tony. Alvin Tony. How you know Elvis? Tony, he started, somehow we got, somehow, I don't know if it was through a promoter.

Somehow, I did a few. Oh, you did a few. Did you do some work for us rapping somebody? Yeah, I did the deal. I mean, when that happens, I got Jada Kiss on some, on a record. I'm like, no, you didn't. Yeah. I can't get Jada kiss on a record.

What? No, you can't get him on a record. Now, I'm glad you brought this up. This nigger right here, dude. You know, Joe, let's talk about it. Yo, yo, listen, yo. You know, that d'Jat is. Listen, Joe.

Yo, you, East Senate. Yo, yo, you, Easton, whatever. Yo, I got you. One month, two months, three months. Yo, what up? Yo, Easton. What are you talking about, Jay? Yes.

Oh, no, no, he's the hardest. He's the hardest. I remember when I... No, but he's... He says okay. I had to track this guy down into the studio. I had to call D from the Rough Riders. Like, I had to go to him in the studio.

I thought it was just... Me? He was the hottest wrecked out. My lifestyle was... this shit. Yo. And I was like, yo,

I need, like, it was like, with you, get Jay to kiss, y'all, you know, he won't them guys.

Yeah, he just left on us, B. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't, fuck this, nipper.

Kiss, will you see that one? In that one. In this one, in this one. You see this shit? Yo, yo.

When you get home and rewind the table. Yo, B. Yo, yo, man. He smashed you.

You, on the phone. The okay. Yo, I got you. Who's some other guys who's okayed you and never showed up. Like, T.I.

T.I. is one? On the, the text, yo, he sent it. No response. You know, man. And listen, I was one of those guys. I make a lot of you. You was one, too. Yeah, Kanye West told me, Snoop told me one time.

Isn't this and that, that didn't know. So I didn't even get mad because I was that person that one time, you know? Didn't do it on purpose. Maybe something's going on at the time. Yeah. But so I can't get. get mad at him. I couldn't get mad at such a... I thought Norie did it one time, but when it went straight to my email, I would have never known because it didn't tell him on the phone

that I got an email. So I'm like, Noia, yo, damn, I hit you a month ago. What I was like, Eric, I've been sent that. So again... On the email. Yeah, it was on the email. You know, your artists say, Remy would be DMX, and he would tell him he's going to do a song one and she'd come back. There's a young Remy here. She'll come back. And I'll be like, I said, yo, he ain't doing it. I'd be like, you know, it's certain artists you would meet at, that's what happened with me when I met R. Kelly.

R. Kelly? You made the hit record. Yeah, but R. Kelly came to me. I seen them all-star weekend. He said, yo, Joe, I want to work with you. I said, brother, do not lie to me. Right. I said, Kels, don't lie to me.

I'm not the guy. I was still very ghetto. So I was like, yo, don't lie to me. Three fat Joe's. Three fat Joe's ago. and fucking 24 chinchillas ago. I was chinchill it out like this. Nicky-hick-chillers refrigerator.

Hold up. What year was that, Joe? I don't know. Because I was battling with you on the radio with records. With that hit record, I think it was 2001 or 2001. Either I was battling with you with music or either react. But for some reason, we're on the chart. Me, you, Sean Paul, and Missy.

Ballin. Big boys. 2002, I think that week, 2001. Okay, so 2001. So, Philly All-Star, he told me he's going to do a song with me. I'm like, yo, bro, don't lie to. Like, I was just way too ghetto at that time. And I went down to Orlando, we cut it.

You know what I'm saying? So I changed my life. But, you know, we're talking about guys who you meet and you swear you're going to do a song with. Then they disappear. And I used to have, like, Remy would come up to a couple of guys that come up to me and be like, oh, I met such and such. He said he's doing the song with me.

I'm like, bro, wish upon a green clover. He said, Rememey Ma, DMX, said he was going to do a record with her. Premature. She was mad young. I was like, I think she could have got that. But Joe said, hell no. That's not how going to happen with him.

He did it to Tone Sunshine. Love Tone Sunshine. I'm like, Tony, oh, my God, you're in credit. Tony went to L.A. Hung out with that dude for like a fucking week when he went to do the VIII. He fell asleep in the booth some shit. So I was like, yo, send me home, God.

Like, I can't do it no more. After 60 games of pool and this and that and motherfuckers riding his cars and all that, tone was like, yo, send me home. It is what it is. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes. Listen, man, I was one of them to be.

So I know. Oh, you. No, no, no, but no. But you missed it. I was one of them. That's why I don't even look at it. I was one of them. I promise you.

Niggers will say, I was like, yo, and there'd be production most of the time sometimes. I got a shot out. I just didn't do it. Bernard Alexander, he saved my life. I was already. He told me about that. About getting money. Yeah.

Like, I was in the Bronx caked up and I refused to move. Even though I was in the nicer part of it was still thrice, Nick one in one. And my wife was like, yo, we've got to get out of here. All these strange cars keep coming around here and this and this and that. And so I hit up Bernard. But I was like, come to Jersey, bro. It was brand new. It was brand new. It was a townhouse.

Yeah, the townhouse of water. You know what I'm saying? And inside that building, though, kids, it was me, Joe, Dave Hauster, too short ended up moving over there. So we were over there. No, no, no, it was crazy as I knew they was hired 50 cent after 50 cent got shot. I'm waiting for 50s. Oh, they drove into the pokeros.

50's coming, right? But he don't know. I knew where he was at. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But, you know what I'm saying? But, Beno was managing it. Yeah.

But no I was managing. Yeah, it was none of my business. Oh, yeah, it was the time. I didn't really know either side or whatever. And they was like, y'all, I can't fit in, city. Just got hit up. I'm taking the ball. I was like, all right.

You know what I'm saying? Like, what you want me to do? They have. You know, we had a good time over there. Let's talk about the new process. Okay, good. Okay. Okay.

We had enough because we flexed. Jeter went to the bathroom because he wanted him by himself. And then we had. the product promoted and you flex about what time? What's the new project?

You got the Eddie Murphy shit where you can close the roof? No. Eddie Murphy, let me tell you something that documentary that's how I want to see

my OGs. Now after you, we have Bill Bellamy that's really what I want to I don't want to talk to you about Eddie Murphy and know like but I watched

you saw the Eddie Murphy documentary that shit was fired. Yeah. And that's how I want to see my OGs. Big silly. Yeah, we never saw him flex before like that. I'm tired of motherfuckers dying, broke and all this and this and that.

I'm just happy. Joe, you know, nobody, I keep telling you, we're not taught. If we was taught little see about money and how to do certain things, Paris was the one that showed me about homes. Because he bought him first early. I'm like, you know, what are you doing? You know, with the houses and stuff. I didn't have no house at first.

He did. I had an apartment. And I didn't know. And then Bert Piddell was everybody's accounting. So Bert Pudel was doing what he can do. But he was a crook. No, Bert would just get you what you needed. But he was switching the, he was switching your social numbers back then.

So for the get, to get credit. It's a crook. And don't be going to take a piss break yourself. Let me hear about, too. No, I want to hear about. I want to hear about Bert. I want to hear about Bert. Yeah, when they hear what Burke was doing.

No, Bert, the bank was in the downstairs. So say if you're young and you're new, see, my social number wasn't the social number that he had until I got to go get a social security car with my mom's one time, and it was a different number. That's when I noticed, okay,

before you heard about the scams of getting dead people or getting whatever like that, that's what was happening. So if I wanted the new bins or home or something like that, I didn't have credit. But here, you got credit now because here's the new social. It wasn't said like that until you look at it.

You know what I'm saying? But that was, you know, again, something that we didn't know till later. Bird pieces was it, and then early... It was already... Yeah, but we didn't know, we didn't know. He had every client.

Every... Everybody was with... Everyone. Actors to whatever was with... him. But when I went to get a new social security card and it was a whole different number. And then I found out, okay, this is how you can get things with these socials when I got, when I learned stuff. But again, being taught about money, we didn't know about money. Everybody had the same program, lawyer, accountant, business management, the whole nine. I know the lawyer was working with the label to later

on, no matter how they speak to you, everybody's in cooots with each other. So this is how it works. But you didn't learn that. You think everybody's just cool. But the business is, it is a business,

you know, and you file out later on. So that's how people get stuck and we get our arrest and we, you know, people go to prison and go to jail for such and such for not doing that. Uncle Sam is real. You don't pay and people don't file. If you file, you don't, it's

Like you're not ducking. But if you filed, then you're in the good. But when you don't say nothing, not when they come and get you. When they came and got me. Perfect time. Count and fuck me, man. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what?

We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.

But this is a trend. But this. This one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was...

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas. and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend, Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school.

Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later. We're still joined at the hip, just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we take. Our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey with all the snacks and drink. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?

They had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white claw or something here? Just take it. What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? I would.

Come on. I would buy it. Cut through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You are. I'm not an alcoholic.

You're lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what.

He's the smartest player to ever play. play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing.

That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean.

I'll bet you a paramedipausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it. Join me on my new podcast. How hard can it be with the Adamia Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that?

I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How hard can it be getting naked at 50 with the new guy? That one's kind of hard. Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try.

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I'm Tyler McCall. And this is Radio 831, a romance podcast. The books, the tropes, the adaptations, the drama, the discourse. And what all of it says about how we actually love, yearn, and obsess. We're going to Wuthering Heights, which, for the record, is not a romance novel. And yet it has haunted the romance genre for 200 years.

We're getting into dark romance, age gaps, certain Russian hockey players. And sentient objects. In love, which is a thing. That's the kind of conversation we're having every episode. Listen to the Radio 831 podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I had an attorney.

that I really trusted and I really, really loved. Went to his kids, bought misses, family, cookouts, this, this, that. My accountant that I had, his son became a quadriplegic, so he had to tend to his son because he was in an accident. So my attorney that I trusted in love forever introduced me to an accountant. This accountant is the guy who stole my money and I eventually went to jail for. So I never fucked with this guy again My lawyer I told him

Yo bro I can't fuck with you no more You set me up with this guy Now I seen him Yesterday I'm in Miami I got a private show for Harborview All of you know I've seen that Yeah You know I'm there

Oh yeah Harborview baby in the Scotcheree So it's like I'm up in there You know Laura Piana You know He said big money was in the building

so I had to throw the Lord. I don't even know who that is. Oh. What was that? Don't buy a fucking, don't buy a handkerchief in that bitch. That shit real deal. You know what I'm talking about, Danny.

That shit is another level. But anyway, I come out the elevator and I see him. I come out the elevator and I see him. Last time I saw him was at Chris Lighty, rest of peace. Right. Funnel, he tried to talk to me. I just came out of jail. I was like, yo, my man, don't talk to me.

Don't come. around me, don't talk to him, because he also disappeared when I had the case. Right. So boom, I seen him the other day, St. Regis in Miami. He was like, hey, Joe, and I said, what's up? I kept him moving after that. And I don't think I'm over him introducing me to the

accountant who kind of destroyed my life, and I lost all my money, went to jail, this, this. I just, you know, I try to be, I was courteous, you know, but I still felt the way. You know what I'm saying? I went upstairs to my room. I was like, did he set me up? Did he not set me?

You see? There you go. Seek the kingdom. Seek the kingdom. Sometimes you got to smack the shit out of somebody. I didn't seek the king. Yeah, because you went to jail for that. I also felt like I was somebody that in my own, you know,

they could say I'm delusional, but I felt like I was somebody who never really got caught. And they wanted me, whether it was little big That's something these boys wanted me. And I felt like somebody got jammed up. And they said, yo, who you got? Fat Joe. Him.

Get him. How could you give me him in the platter? And the worst thing is you got somebody you trust. That's how they get you. It's somebody you really, really trust. I just told kids, this whole shit is a business. When you, everybody works together. The same way Spotify works with the labels.

Can I put it out there for me. Yeah. somebody's making some money. Listen, if the president of Spotify in 2024, he made $300 million. He don't own the company. He's just a president.

He made $300 million. What do you think Spotify is getting? So they're giving us 0.4 cent. Now Congress has passed the law. They've given us one penny, right? So 1 million streams get you 14 grand, right? Before 100,000 streams,

they get you $200. So all this whole system is fucked up for us, but for the labels and the people who owns Spotify, the president, not the owner,

Joe, he made $300 million in 2020. That's great. And then he had a bigger... And these guys all... You know, listen, they've all been crooks since the beginning of the time.

They're more than 2020. Oh, you made four... This has been... You made $400 million, 460 million in 2025. They take them. Poor people. They got talent.

they use them up and by the time they learn the game they'll dust you off and make you the old school at noon and get the new young person to jerk and they just keep doing that and doing that and doing that and people like Spotify and all these people are all every

who have made up the point that 1500 spins is one CD so whoever made up the point that we only get less than one set fucking head boy yeah one less Less than one cent, though, too, is crazy. And then we get in a penny. At least with the label signed to, we got a quarter at least.

I said this all the time. If you sell, let me ask you to 100. Let me go right now. I know. I don't know. Let me think, sent you. You put your pain, your soul, everything into this,

let's say it's a CD. If you sold it yourself on the corner for $9.99, that somebody told you who's going to get $0.9. We're not doing that. They don't work for fucking NPS. You're right. Right? This is the only business that glorifies you getting right.

I know. You get right. And the minute you learn. You've seen Prince with all that slay. Oh, no, it's the first. The first one, Himalanda McMillan was the first one that started doing it. The second he started going like this. Yep.

You're out of here. I'm also looking forward to this Michael Jackson movie because I think they're finally going to start speaking truth to light to where why he's, He got attacked like that. You see, you got to understand. We didn't know the sophisticated ways of brainwashing the people and smearing people. They smeared Michael Jackson the greatest of all time. They had us thinking he was crazy.

Right. Right now, everybody rocking Botox. People bleaching their skin like there's some normal shit. People sleeping and fucking, what's my man, Forrest Whitaker's sleep? Oh, yeah. Air machine. Yeah, yes, you're right, right. The richer you get, right.

You doing what Michael Jackson is doing. Right. By an art. You thinking this guy's crazy, weird. He actually was ahead of his time. But even though, we never thought Michael was getting jerked, though. For us, we didn't know that that was happening. Yeah, but what I'm trying to tell you is that Mike's...

You're what I'm saying, but we never... Michael... Different kind of jerked, Paul's. Yeah, but I'm saying, but he, for him to come out and say Ty and Matola's get, you know, whatever, like, we never thought that was happening. Tomah Mottola. My friend, I got to get into it. No, but what I'm saying?

Sony, he's saying. That's nice. Sony, my thing is... Hold up. We're going to let's go back. Michael Jack? No, it's okay. Bro artists, man.

For the artists. No, I'm for the artist. And I also say... Hold up. Before you start one time, I thought you was getting ready to say, it's better. That's what I'm talking about now.

If only my 8,000 fans give me $1,000, I made $8, $8,000. That's more than me, Spotify, the whole nine. Now, If you give me, if 8,000 people give me $100, it's $800, right? At the end of the day, if you have a name, why would you want to go and do all that work on that album and go put it on that platform? I don't understand. Not the people that's new.

The people who have names, don't forget, Joe, you can make a record right now. I don't get to how big it is. It doesn't matter. You already, Joe, you're already famous. You're already iconic. you're not going to get no bigger. The record's not going to get no bigger and they're going to happen.

You already you. But if you decide to make music, why not sell it yourself? You're already you. Where would you sell it at? Like w-r-r-ru-you-do-you-do-it on your own platform. When I do the product, when I'm doing whatever, whatever, you got fans.

If 8,000 people give me $20, 8 times 2 is 16, It's 160 grand. It doesn't matter. Everything you can do direct to consumer is back now. Every WWW is never left. That means when every time somebody goes on TV, every star, everybody with product,

you got to go to a website. It's the same shit. Go back to that. Put that Shopify and that fucking band camp on your shit and go, yo, go get my shit here. And again, let the platform that take it, that's promotion.

But at least you got People, listen, Ice Cube said that once he reached a million, he wanted to reach two million, right? Sell records. But he left a million people back here that was his fans. Your core fans ain't going nowhere. If you tell them to do something, they're going to. So all of us hear that you went platinum. You don't need a million fans.

I said 8,000 people give me $200, right? It's $1.6 million. They're going to pay for what you want to give them. That means merchandise the whole nine. I got to preach that because, again, that's what you do. If you sell them material, if you be selling that, though, too, even though you, again, with a company, what a matter if you didn't?

Your fat Joe, your kiss, it doesn't matter. You do the marketing promotion on yourself and bring them to your platform. I like to learn new shit every day, and that's what this show is about. I just give me the numbers, like Jay said, numbers don't lie. It don't matter. They give you 50 bucks. 8,000 people.

I'm not talking about your millions of fans. I said 8,000 and give you 50 bucks. Eight times five is four. That's $400,000 of only 8,000 people giving you 50 bucks. Talk about money? Come on, man. That's why people sit here and be like, you want to go broke, you don't want to do something.

Here's how you don't go broke. Here's how you have shit making money while you sleep. Them EPMD bucket is that's why I'm sleeping. That EPMD shirt is why I'm sleeping. The money comes in while you sleep. That. We got a new project, brother. Tell the people, man,

because you've been philosophical today, so we really want you to talk that music. Yeah, the music, well. I got one question. Yeah. I got one question. So you sample Marvin Gaye. Yes.

Right? How much did it cost you to sample Marvin Gay? $200,000. It costed you $200. Right. because it caught me that because when Bernard took the CD and went to L.A.

He went to a convention that was happening with Clear Channel. They played the record. They added the record. So now they get to stick me up. Did it too fast. So it was 150 for Jan, God bless you did, the wife. And then it was $50,000 for the lawyer.

But it didn't matter because Clive gave me $4 million. So that whole thing of how it went, I went to Jay Records afterwards because Clive wanted to sign me. The reason why I bring that up, right? Because Ferell getting sued, he didn't clear it. He didn't clear it. That's it.

What they got sued for like $7 million or something? Seven or eight, yeah. Farrell is smart little. No, no, no. Well, he's kind of, yeah, he had interpolated. He interpreted a song. He did. Listen.

He said he didn't know. That was the book, no. That's, yeah, yeah. Yo. It's always the thing that's safe, man, when you get caught. Yeah. I don't know. It's the smartest thing to say.

That's thing you got. But it's the dumbest thing when you know the fucking planet Earth knew he jacked Marvin Gaye. The whole fucking world. When you hear the song, it's the same song. Same song. Yeah. It's the same.

They don't send us no Louis. Yeah. They ain't going to send a shit. No, no, no, no. No. Yeah. Hold up. Rewind back one hour, 57 minutes, 36 seconds, take that part out.

We ain't doing that. This is interesting. What I'm saying is, if I was around for a while to say, yo, settle with these people. Because this, it is what it is. He was inspired by them whether he'd do it. Yeah, but listen, you're missing one. Ed Sherman's shit sounds like, let's get it on, and he won. Play Ed Sharon's, Marvin Gay's.

Whatever, it sounds just like let's get it on, and he won. let me tell you some crazy shit I didn't think he did I went to the videotape No play the record I did I swear to God I did I went when he won Just the same way you tell me Yes man I was like that sherman and that And I couldn't really make the same

Yo Yo yo yo This is what yo I swear Hold on hold on Hold on hold on Yo when I watch this show Is his reactions Because it's

That one makes your chemistry, I swear. Because he leans back and he does this. And like, yo. Let me tell you something. You know what this is? This is the honeymoon is. Where Ralph Grampden. Art Carney.

Let's talk about the project now. Let's go. Let's go. Okay, the dynamic duels. So I had it four years ago before COVID. I had the idea before you heard nods. I figured that my colleagues was. working. I was wondering why nobody was making

records, right? So I kind of got upset about that in my head. Like, you know what, fuck it? I'm going to make records for them. If they have studio problems, nobody making no beat for them, the whole not. So COVID came, so that took two years off. Kevin came and got me, Kevin Lowell. So we did the partnership

at 300. 300. Leo Cohen sells it for $450 million to Atlantic. That took a year and something. That's a nice check. Yeah. But isn't that crazy? Leo got $4.50 from Atlantic, which is Mike and Julie, people that he put there. Now, that was the whole play. Keep going. If you didn't figure that one out.

So, so that was the old Hawaii. Yeah. That was sell to Stilespe's running. Phenomenal. Now, let me sell the Jada kiss records to Stilespeat. He got the bag over here. He's going to throw you to smithereens. Like, yo, they all ran. And now, and now.

Let me tell you something. When he sold that shit. Kevin Lowe's my next door neighbor. Right. It was the first sighting I saw Russell Simmons in like 10 years. That it was next door. He called me and said, hello. Come next door.

Everybody ran off with the bag. Their whole crew. They are the best that ever did it. Kevin's Lord. That whole death is all deafness. Kevin, Leo, Julie, Kaiser. All of them. They took care of everybody.

All of them. Like in the, I mean, bad mania. All of them is cakeed up. up to the movie We got Randy Ackerty. But what I'm saying is they came in this game and said, all right, this is our crew.

And we're going to eat forever. Make sure they want to eat. Simmons showed up. They were storing like the, we sold the company for 400 million because they first said it was Kevin Lows. Now I'm saying, Leo Cohen. I'm sure it was.

You know what's that Kevin? You know what they were saying, Kevin Lows. Oh. Kevin Louse threw a party. He lives next door to me. Yeah, of course. He was a beat. He got money.

Trust me. Kevin Liles lives 1A. I'm 1A. He's 1B. His house is right next door to mine. Wow. Russell Simmons facetimes me out of nowhere. I ain't see him in 10 years.

He said, come over with celebrating Kevin selling the company. I'm letting my fat flow. I got no shirt on, no nothing. I just put a T-shirt on. I go over there, put all my shorts. I go over there. And they're celebrating. And I just, the way.

I think. You know what I mean? The hustling me, I said, damn, this man came over here to pick up the bag. They sold, Rasmus came to pick up the bag. They just sold it. Check is in.

Wires in. Russell came for fucking Malaysia some shit to get the bag, and he's going back. Everybody's kicked up. This is what I'm trying to tell you. Every member of the crew caught something.

You know, I just signed that deal with Lear. I had to deal with partners in AI now, but that's another flex. But partners in AI? I went to his crib, right? I looked at a picture on the wall was a baby picture. Me and my man with the baby picture. I said, I'm going to look that picture because in my head. I'm just saying that it might cost whatever.

He said, yeah, I paid 12 grand for it, but it's worth $5 million. It was a picture of a baby. this up, you know, whatever. I want to put this out there. Yo, I'm a graffiti legend. I want to meet Vanksy. Who's that? Banksy's the illest artist in the world never shows his fake.

Yo, I don't know what. Okay, listen. He don't believe not the Fad Joe said. Okay, listen. I don't know why. Wait. Okay, listen, let's go back. So, Dynamic Duo.

Yo, listen, listen, listen, let me just get that. Banksy, somebody know Bansy. Fat Joe wants to meet the. real Banksy face to face. I don't rat. I don't nothing. He's an artist. Nobody sees his face. But I'm a huge friend. We don't know where he's at because then we would have found him in the UK.

And it could be in Afghanistan, wherever, my name. Banksy just don't get seen. Okay, with Banksy fat, I don't need you. Okay, one second. Okay. So after that, the shit was three and a half years so far. So now I do the Biggie Smalls-Tupac record, right? So I get Biggie cleared, but the two-park estate, I offered his sister $100,000. I give you $100,000. And you can keep the rights to the record.

She didn't say, yeah, I was saying no, but she wasn't coming back fast enough with the reaction. So I'm like, so what's going on? I found her that she was going through it with Universal for them using two-part music and making money off of it. In the move. No, just period. Yeah, yeah, that too. So that delayed me. So by that way as long as I wanted to

because I wanted to have that on the project, right? So anyway. I want to say, I don't know how you, I cleared Tupap and his lawyer owns the rights. Yeah, at that time, but now she's suing that. She needs to get it. Like I did not understand when I was paying the lawyer. Yeah.

I went to every, Bernard called everyone that did the Tupac before with, with, um, the RL shit when you saw the video. Whatever, we went to those people. We went to everybody. Nothing. So that gave more time. I thought it's mom's fact.

She must have left it to the lawyer. I didn't have no clue. I didn't understand that. So how a lawyer Rob Wathen things owned Stupa? Right. So then I had Prodigy, new vocals, the whole non-so or whatever. I called my lawyer, he called,

which is, you know, his friend, Kevin. Then I talked to Pryorgy's wife on the phone. She sounded like she was saying, Don't worry about it. I'm going to check the record out. Whatever, I get back to you, right? No call. I'm texting. There's nothing there, you know? So I'm like, so that's a holdup.

So I get that late. That took time. I called Sean Price's wife. Then I talked to Drew Ha. Right? She says, call Drew. You know, I've got a Jew number. So, Beno, you know,

Good guy, Jew. She just called Jew. She says, cool. I still took time. Nate Dog estate. I got to call these people and say, too, do you want the money?

This tell me a thing. It just took time. Eventually, they didn't want nothing. So you see all these people on the album that passed away, it takes time for the estates. Because don't forget, if they can't find kiss,

then we got to wait to find kiss. The estate means everybody on the estate has to say yes if they're on the paper. So you can just have one person or you can have a sample one time. It went to the point of like the man's dead.

We got no more family members and nothing like that. We went to the burial type shit. They went to the, you know, the sample. The people who cleared the sample. They was like, yo, he ain't cast a check in 13 years. There's no, like we was looking like

you got to clear these samples because then it's on you if you let them go and they come back and sue you for that real money. Right. So anyway, all that happened and now is coming December 5th. So again, this is volume 1, right? So volume 1 to...

It ain't just everybody who's dead because I heard the record was sold. No, no, no, no, no, no. I heard the record was sold. Yeah, but that was a while... That's when they sold 300. I didn't get a chance to get that. That was the first record that came

and it's gone now. But Reddenf, Snoop, Dog, and Nate, helter-skelter, M-O-P-P-E, Cypress Hills, E-P-M-D, Dog Pound, Conway, the Machine, Game, Little Wayne, MobD. This is volume one. In public enemy, right, volume one.

Sure, I get on values, too, this. Yeah, I got you. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.

Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad,

Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano,

and our podcast Point Game is about Defendant. find the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game.

We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing.

That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a parameda apostle chin here you do.

So let's talk about it. Join me on my new podcast. How hard can it be with Deanna Maria Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that Ness was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex?

Dating at 45. How high can it be getting naked at 50 with the new guy? That one's kind of hard. Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of laughter, and dive into it, unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Cultura podcast network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHart Podcasts presents soccer moms.

So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend, Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip, just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast.

We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. with all the snacks and drink. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? They had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just take it.

Oh, what are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, come on. I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky I'm not a drug addict.

You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You are. You are. I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really. trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Oh.

Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Why is everyone obsessed with romance right now? Like everyone. Your co-worker who, quote unquote, doesn't read, is reading romance. Your mom, book talk, the entire internet. I'm Sanjana Basker. I'm Tyler McCall. And this is Radio 831, a romance podcast.

The books, the tropes, the adaptations, the drama, the discourse. And what all of it says about how we actually love, yearn, and obsess. We're going to Weathering Heights, which, for the record, is not a romance novel. And yet it has haunted the romance genre for 200 years. We're getting into dark romance, age gaps, certain Russian hockey players. And sentient objects. in love, which is a thing. That's the kind of conversation

we're having every episode. Listen to the Radio 831 podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So this is what I ended up doing through DMs and everybody who I kind of called or DM, everybody says yes, some didn't say, but again, I was able to get stuff started at the time.

And then certain people, like I called Dougie Fresh and Rick first. That's what I really want to do because I was trying to do I'm going to do the show in my head all over again, my way and my version. So, but, um, and I, I, I talked to Andre 2000 way early. Oh, for them $100,000 too.

But, but, um, I did UGK. I did A-Bullin MJG. I did Norty. These are names are, I did Smith and Western. I got this already on that too for the back. And then you got the people too. that you want to do, quote the locks, way and goes,

black star, Sue, that's already, you know, that you're trying to get, to make sure I'm covering the bases up. But before Nas did this, Joe,

I was trying to bring my colleagues just to say, you don't got to stop making records. But then time went by, and now Massapil do what they did. So now everybody's working now.

But, you know, so big. So, but I ain't always good, though. You know what I'm sure? So it's like, everybody working, everybody, you know, he's right. Because, hey, the plug in, man, we got something to play. You bought us up?

MOP. Oh, my God. Frankie Crocker that shit, James. They got the AC on the last. Nah, it's just MOP. You know, the AC is on, like, jail level. Sidewalk executive. No, you go in jail.

That's chick. Yeah, they're going to go to sidewalk executives. Who calls them, who call them stuff that? Jail? Sidewalk is Zetkins. Guns up, only my part to get his imaginary girl.

After getting in his ass, I kick it with the youngest. Every bastard on the black. Hold on a lot. Pull and drop. But for E-Durre. Hey. That's perfect.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I don't think they're listening for this. Much fine and life. It's guns up. Who is a lot. This is street certified. Fire off weapons in.

Nigga, you fucking with the size. It's imaginary junk. It's every bad. Get you in your daddy. Clacks up. Boom is in. Nigel you fucking with the sidewalks. So everybody know me.

Images of the five, five. Six is my emoji. The bigger homie. He told me he can show me a different route to the bag. And I ain't got a hat a magnum on me. New York resume on display you can't put a flag on. A million dollar flow. That shit was incredible, brother.

I take Billy in fame every time. I know, the excitement. I had a great time at this show, y'all, people that's watching this tour, to be on the sofa and to be with two, again, it doesn't matter, man. Like, successfulness, Joe, you, we were to sit back and be like, yo, damn,

he got another one or you got another one. Because in this, to come back and do every decade, don't forget, this is decade from the 90s, 2000s, and then the late, so it's three decades of still being able to be relevant and still be able to say you dropping music and not just regular shit, this was big records being made.

It was hard to do that. People said, too, how did Eric be able to come back and come back with music from EPMD 1988 to 2001? You know, that's the people don't do that. That's a feat to be doing that. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, though, you know,

again, this shit right here is what people talked about, what Delosso felt on the sofa. Like, this is a show that you guys, listen, man, you're my boys, but it's different shows. Y'all came up fast. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we're not playing.

No, it was fast. People probably thought regular, you know, that shit ain't going to work. They definitely were saying that. I know, nigga, I'm telling you I was out there. I watched the phone of the skies to the richest guy. I know what all the motherfuckers are saying. I was watching them.

Nobody was believing. They were like, arts thing ain't going to work. It ain't going to work. I knew it would. You want to know why? Because we respect the culture. We respect. Yeah, but it was the personalities about those two don't hang together.

The way I look at this, I look at this no different than Shaquille O'Neill. I'm Charles Barkley. You're Kenny Smith. Oh, okay. He really played the game. And we respect and salute the legends on another level. You understand what I'm saying? Like, I used to watch these hip-hop documentaries, and they have.

guys on there commenting like they knew and I'm like, I don't know you. And I gotta know everybody. All of you, you got the locks. Jay's like, what you're talking about?

Because if I couldn't get them that way, you was gonna get them. Exactly. Vocals, they laid down somewhere. Damn, chest. You see that, man? Manfucking making up the pasta noops. Dirty, dog.

They doing you. Hey, yo. You, but listen. it was just my version of it, Joe, until I get it to happen, I had to make certain things. I ain't going to lie to you. I don't want to die,

but they definitely have a hundred Fat Joe versus in different studios out there that I just did one day and kept them moving knowing that they would benefit off of it. I've done winning regular bullshit studios, kick 16, broke out. That's almost like, here you go. This is a retirement.

So when, you know, Fat Joe's out of here and they put together the pasty shit, you know, y'all got some shit. Y'all can make a couple of dollars off that shit, you know what I'm saying? You know how motherfucking put the shit together again? I'm going to bring out. I'm DJ Zaddy Black. Pull out your verse from Fat Joe.

One dollar pela, pull out your verse. You got a couple of dollars covering your way. They all looking like, huh? He knows we kept that shit. Yeah, I know you. Hey, kiss, you probably won't even remember. And nobody's going to know because there's a record that again, didn't go.

You know, so I could have asked them and said, yo, and it still would have been like, oh shit, you heard that new, you know what I'm saying? I could have did that. But again, but now, you know, whatever, it is what is. I'm going to play for shit and giggles. B.I.G. Yes, that was dope.

B.I.G. So you didn't hear that yet? No. Yeah. Well, I'm not talking about that. I was talking about the only thing in the history of life I didn't. appreciate was like thing he after he died

they was making Oh yeah Yeah I know I know All type of shit I was just like Same vocals though I know Same shit with the

Yeah two words Yeah different You freestyle that in the radio And changed Mind they like that And they do it there That shit

You're not gonna believe When you hear my shit You're gonna think Them two was in it together They're rap to the beat Fucking legend Yeah Yeah this is called

It's called where you at Preeting the locks Because A guy A rapper want to smile On their neck You a cop sucker You ain't say styles

It's the best I'm disgusting What up then? Start the discussion It ends as a homie That's the body in Hudson Lucky to be found By the river patrol He a piece of shit

Flush and fuck Digin a hole Which rapper said he the best Tell him ghost He's the bitch And told him to say less And give him my address Yeah the top ten

niggins is soft as a jazz best Put my blades to their skin And stretch it like spinox but now I'm on some entrepreneur shit spot seats in the car can the guard full of that raw shit at least a sip, valet, hit him with at least a clip

knocked out his eyeballs he ain't even peep the shit ghost numb like you on cocaine and ether mix simply don't give a fuck cool in the refilil I got it. Where you're at? We're right here, though

New York where you're at where you at? We're right here, though When you hear them three letters you know that they represent it I could go anywhere As long as I got the coast I do it for the east

as long as I got the coast Go out on my shield as long as I got my orphan Hip hop can never be dead long as I got a post Whoa man back That's the kitty section I was a fly on the wall at the big he session Soaked it all up and spit it out with aggression Felt away about it every sense with affection

You better believe that the bottles is on deck A's glue cookies, gelato is on deck Never sober, it's never over, never over Rollout 21 deep in 11 rovers head and shoulders That's where they pointin' them things at Playing the game, see how many heads we could bring back. Yeah, at least it be authentic. When you hear them three letters, you know that they represented.

L-O-X. Where you had to be right here, though? Yo. Where you have? L-O-X. Steve-L-L-X. When you hear them three letters, you know that they represent it. That's great.

Do you remember that verse? You don't even remember it, right? You know, sometimes I go overseas and they have an after-party. they start playing Fat Joe Records, I swear to, I sit there, like, I don't remember them shit. They'd be playing shit.

I'd be like, where did I do that? But everybody that I, that played heard you just now and you watch the room, niggas was like, what is that? That shit was incredible.

Again, the rhymes was fan, but again, I could have, but I didn't want to do that because, again, I know how artists be too, yo, I did that before.

I said, I know that, but it's a new record. To everybody he didn't hear. I want Eric Sherman to produce my album. Take my whole shit. Are you going to play golf? You're going to play golf?

On Chito, give him the motherfuck it. Just the last one, we're going to go. We got to go. We got to go, Eric Sherman. But this is a lower vibration of what I would do. This is Conway, the Machine, Lil Wayne, and game. It's going to be kind of long because it's slow, too. But it's the vibe.

That's all. It's over. from now. We all go down unless we stay together. Ain't no one man above the crew. You know that shit. I ain't never gonna be shit. You remember that motherfucker. God mode, new God flow, I'm son, 12, goose of my pastels. When I air a sermon is gospel. My blow leave a pretty bitch with a snout nose. My blow leave a nigger chest with a pothole. Congo, gorilla like I'm from Congo. I go on a raptor Valasso I sold up coliseums my name Coliseo my hoes Doritos homie that's nachos on the top flows Picasso's hanging up on the walls at all in my swastow yo bitch my dick smackin the tonsos

my fans be moshin like they at rock shows my man had a button on a high pole my yams the guard cook on a high stove spent a ticket that self-witch is just the cop clothes coming like a bright voice. I could see the future in my eyes close. These verses like some scriptures in the Bible. On the Bible, I'm in Gaibo. I'm in Godmo.

Highway to heaven, no pot holes. I put you on that highway to heaven. Take the high road. God knows. I'm weathering the stunts. Still in dry clothes. Still got my foot on niggas necks, my nigga five toes.

Got shahos coming out their shells like tacos. Got die wholesale and pussy wholesale like caskos. I still come with Serb like Rosco's and I got those. Chickens in the trunks with no wafo, that's Blanco, um, peanut collida, I'm your cocaine and parrida. It's sweet as vagina.

Trapp house jumping like the Ramada. I like the Rwina. Get high into I fear and Urbana. In Cyprus, I vomit. These rappers are biting like diamond. Time is an issue. When I send a peck out, it's a missile. Dog fool.

I didn't turn the trap house to a kennel. Brick man. In Miami, they're calling me brickle. If you five, I won't charge you a knicker. I never saw it coming like a blindfold. I could see the future. in my eyes close. His first is like scriptures in the Bible.

On the Bible, I'm in Godmo. Last gangster rapper alive, I swear to God against all eyes. The only nigga that show up to shit what I describe. My presence is feared. Heart raves rise when my essence appeared. No Stephen A. Smith. Hey, I don't wear my hat open my ears, nigger. My influence on these rap niggas like Hennessy.

And if we're on the same song until it fade out you, my enemy, Lee Harvey and Kennedy, Domey and I mean that shit, like saucy Santana trying to pull up my academics, big. So stop playing Like a one hit wonder's first song For I take you back to the old game With the ballhead in the shirt long I'm gonna be here after the earth gone

When the ocean dry up weighing out fish girl smoking herb till all the dirt gone Fuck you new niggis You making a spot high You ain't gonna last for long It's like you shop pot Hay to love it, the underdog Still in a drop top

And no French kissing something In one of the diesel crop tops Two Cubans around my neck Like I got the work Your last album sold 20,000 the first week That got to hurt That's why I listened to Brim fire ass and pop a perk, but not before I call that son and make sure we got the verse.

Now I saw him coming like a blindfold, but I could see the future when my eyes close. His first is like some scriptures in the Bible. On the Bible, I'm in God Mo. This is big time, big time, big time. Big time. Big time. December 5th, the album is called. Dynamic duo. Dynamic duo.

Put them up deep on. Then don't even stuff like that. No, no, no, we play. I was like, This ain't that? That ain't this. Bracking kiss. Give it off an E-Sermann.

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