The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Ashanti & Nelly on relationship & breakup, Verzuz, music & 'We Belong Together'

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Grammy Award-winning, multi-platinum selling artists, and couple, Ashanti and Nelly. Joe goes in on how his Verzuz between himself and Ja Rule was the spark that rek...indled Ashanti and Nelly's relationship after a 10-year break up. Next, Jadakiss goes down the line of awards and accolades of the two as they discuss the history of their music careers. Joe talks about how he first met Ashanti and just how impressed he was with the young songstress and why he wanted her on their hit song “What's Luv?” Finally, Ashanti and Nelly discuss their new show on Peacock, ‘We Belong Together,’ and why they decided to do a reality TV show. Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano return to headline the most decorated boxing card in history, featuring 9 world champions and 21 titles on the line. Streaming LIVE Friday, July 11 on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/82035642 #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:58 podcast. Yo, no, talk. Every time I see this, he was advocating. When we weren't together, Nelly! Every time I see him kiss, Nelly! My God, how you been?
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah, yeah. That's great. What are you, dude? Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? It's Joe Crack, the dawn. It's your boy, Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. First things first, we like to welcome our guests.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Ashanti and Nelly, make some noise. Just make some. Yeah. Before we even get any questions, yo, crack. I think they're trying to steal a little bit of your percentage or something, you know. What happened? Let me explain, Shania. First of all, I ain't even say nothing.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Never came right in with like, yo, crack, you're trying to take the credit. It's the fucking truth. Why I got to, why I'm always getting sconed? In this show. I was trying to protect you, champ. Don't protect you. Don't protect you. You know what's up.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I'm trying to protect you. No, no, no, no. But you know what's up. I'm not lying. I was there. You was there. You was on my phone. Yo, listen.
Starting point is 00:03:29 They announced the, how you doing, brother and sister? Hey, Joe. Listen, they announced the verses. My first, I'm not even going to lie to you. Come on. It was like. viral. It wasn't viral. It was viral for your
Starting point is 00:03:46 call because it came so fast. It said, yo brother, you leave me there? I didn't know I was in for the fix, right? I'm like, yo, you know what? Pre-meditated. You guys had just did the verses. You actually
Starting point is 00:04:01 fuck me up because your verses was so good and so ghetto. No, no, I'm just saying. They shoot me dice. No, I love It's the greatest moment of hip hop I've seen in my lifetime recent. Right? I'm just keeping it real with you.
Starting point is 00:04:20 But they definitely was, you wasn't at the bathroom. They were shooting dice and smoking bloods at the bathroom. Girls had to walk over dice games. This shit was C-74 like the talent. No. So you had me thinking I was the next verses that it was going to be ghetto. You know what's up. I'm thinking about all these underground sauce.
Starting point is 00:04:42 He called me, I said, man, Nelly might be too big for this. Because by the way, Nelly then sold 30, 40 million records. We're going to get into that. We're going to. So I said, yo, you know what? You might want to fall back, right? And then I'm going through it. And I said, man, we better call it dirty.
Starting point is 00:05:01 But I didn't know you were setting me up the whole time. And so I go, I call you back. He was like, I'm there. You're my brother. One thing I can say, you know, you might. this you know hey that's your wife this my sister on another level right so be i don't think people really understand that when we call brother and sister that's a different type of talk yes so it's like it's a different type of talk it's like yo that's my sister we have friends associates people
Starting point is 00:05:33 but when we in that lane it's a different type of lane and so i don't think nothing of it man and you came out there sleepwalking. You seen it, you was like, you walk across the whole shit. I see you. I've been duped. I've been taken for a ride. I've been checking.
Starting point is 00:06:00 It had nothing to do with you. Nothing. You think he was in the way? This guy's so rich. You think he care about coming to versus? This guy come over here. I love this guy. You lied, man.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You wanted your own thing. That's right. And you caught a burking and a baby in a male tired of shit. You're out of control with the shit. Never in my life. A burgeon and a baby is amazing. But the scenario was a little bit different. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Right? I did. I saw the verse of what's the name and I knew what was going on. I didn't. I was going to just so happen. I was up in New York. I was going to be there for. for something a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:06:43 You was there early, 23. I was there. Super early. So when it was like that, I was just letting you know, yo, I'm up here. You're gonna need,
Starting point is 00:06:52 I'm gonna be up there. If you need me to pop out, I was just letting you know because I knew what verses was going. It was different from the time I did it. This shit had been, this shit is went to Madison Square Garden. Hold up.
Starting point is 00:07:03 This is different. You added to the delusion. Like, you came in my room early and was like, you got this. He can't mess. with you huge I'm like y'all yeah yeah we're going I'm like yo this guy got a thousand hits hold on no I told you to recognize being wired I said recognized the being wired that wasn't
Starting point is 00:07:25 that wasn't me that was your other sister had you got had you pumped it ready to she had you had you ready to go but I definitely said no you got to do you you know you got this because you're him you were pacing. It was on your mind. You knew what you were in for. Oh, I mean, that's a different conversation.
Starting point is 00:07:51 You knew what you were in for. You were like, yo, that's a different conversation. This guy's got a thousand hits, Mo. This guy's got a, I said, don't worry about, you know, you got this, let me explain something. You got this. The versus is the closest thing to a boxing match.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah. So when I came down, I said the Uncle Dan's house in Jersey, when I came downstairs, the doorman was like, get them, Joe. I get in the car, I swear to God. I get in the car, the FedEx man was like, get them crap. Everybody you go?
Starting point is 00:08:20 Old lady crossing the street, get them, Joe, drag him. I was like, yo! I was like Canelo or something. I was like, oh. And then, just like a boxing match, when it got to like that 13, 14th, 15th thing, I just kept feeling body blow. Body blow. Body blow.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I said, oh my God, this guy, he's swinging for the fences. Man, you guys had a great night. How do you feel in that? Because you was in the... Oh, man, I felt like the tennis match. You know what I'm saying? I was like this. Okay, Joe, Joe, going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:08:57 But you know, I love both of y'all. You know what I'm saying? So I was definitely going to be there. But you know, when I spoke to you after, why you ain't tell me this thing he was going to be... Ha! Why you ain't tell me? He had to keep
Starting point is 00:09:13 Joe is just as guilty as dirty Thank you Jada I call my brother I don't go against this woman for nobody It's facts factual
Starting point is 00:09:25 I don't go against her for nobody Hi Ram I don't go against them Right this guy line me up I didn't think about it until he came out
Starting point is 00:09:36 and started sleep walking through the Yo They got video of it When I came up stairs at rehearsal, Rim had him in their, like, custom model in Tyson. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:09:46 You know that's a kid. You gotta get up, Joey! You're gonna just left, right, left. I was like, yeah, crack look ready. Look like you was in their sway. You announced, not only that, right? She got pregnant behind this thing. Like, Shanti never got pregnant in her love.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Hold on. Hold on. You, what the hell? What the hell? What the hellie? What the hellie? We heard you say that that Nelly set you up. See.
Starting point is 00:10:21 We heard Shani say, you set up. I was also a guest on that version. Yeah. To do New York, which I had the end. And being in the crowd or being in the cut where I was at, watching the show before I went on, God is my witness when you saw her
Starting point is 00:10:43 he got the footage it was like a kid with the bike they put PlayStation the bike he wanted everything you had a different no you thought
Starting point is 00:10:55 that was at the end of the show you had a different glow it was all mesmerized she has a hit record called mesmerized no she got it
Starting point is 00:11:07 now we love you you're dirty let me tell you Shit, the eyes was looking at. She was on fire. No, no. Hold up.
Starting point is 00:11:17 You're a handsome guy. Pause, whatever they want to say. You've always been a handsome guy. The ladies love you. But this woman around that, she was on fire. You seen all them bathing. She was in St. Croix. Too much.
Starting point is 00:11:32 I'm like, yo, I was hate going on her. I'm calling her. I'm calling her. What the fuck? Get out of there. Get out of there. She's in Bahamas, Turks and Kiko. This everywhere.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Baving soup, shit. I'm like, she's like, she looks more beautiful than when she was younger. This is a fact. You was looking at them pictures on that IG. Correct. Joe. Did I? Look at a show.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Hold on. I don't want to do this shit. You do it. You do it. You run the show. Let them talk. Let me. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Was I by myself? What do you mean? I had somebody with me. I didn't come there for that. And I was in a situation. When I walked in your room, it was somebody with me. I didn't even notice it. Yeah, I know you.
Starting point is 00:12:19 When I walked in your room, it was somebody with me. I did not come there. I thought it was Jermaine to pre with that. That's the only guy. I see it with you. This is crazy. No, no, I'm telling me the truth. Because here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I did not want to cause no friction. I did not. You two brothers was there. You know me. Doing what you was doing. And I was like, yo, this is a beautiful situation. You know me. So I'm going to keep it peed.
Starting point is 00:12:47 All right. I'm, you know me. Yeah. And you know me. The audience kind of know me for 30 years, but they don't really know me, know me. And some of the shit I say sound crazy, but I need 10%. Whatever is this Brad Pitt, this kid, Muhammad Ali going to make. I'm in this.
Starting point is 00:13:08 management contract or something. This guy looked like Muhammad Ali when he was born. Yeah. Have y'all showed him yet or he's going to be on the show? No, we didn't show him yet. Not even in the show. I'm leaving that to her.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I was there for this night. My birthday. Yes. We sang happy birthday in the UK nine months. Oh, Gusha was there. She got a good baby, man. Oh! She locked out.
Starting point is 00:13:32 He's always laughing. He doesn't cry. I just got a chance to see him any beautiful. It's energy. I appreciate it. Yeah, great energy. Great energy. I told everybody I said like this,
Starting point is 00:13:44 I'm on the red carpet. It was like, did you see Ashanti and Nellie's baby? I said the most beautiful. In the world. This man was born. No, this man was born with a full set of hair. He got that man. The skin.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Right? The skin. I'm not exaggerating. I'm sorry, I don't see him yet. But this guy's a star, and I know I got at least. get some type of paper off of this meal.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Me and you both. Me and you both because he a half a meal in the hole because I was on tour when he decided to come out two weeks early. So he kind of cost me two shows. No, he cost me two shows in a party. And I need my money.
Starting point is 00:14:26 He started, he was born and a half a million in the hole. We're going to make that up. We're going to make that up. Don't worry about it. We got a, we got the birth of a legend. Yeah. We appreciate it. Bless you. Bless you.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Bless you. So you know love. Yes. Love overpowers, hate. Mm-hmm. Overpowers. Every other thing. You know, sometimes hearts miss each other.
Starting point is 00:14:54 It ain't always guaranteed to hit each other and find the right thing. And so you guys definitely spun the block and came back and your hearts joined together. And there's nothing like that for you guys. to make a TV show called We Belonged Together. This is like, and this is your segue, past it. Hey, let's go, yeah. Oh, thank you, Jada. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Amen, amen. I mean, what, I mean, I know what it's like. I'm just asking you, you're both more matured. You figured out, damn, man, that was my guy. You figured out that was my girl. We both well off in life things. car. I think that's basically it, man. We had a chance to see. And I hate using that example, but it is. I mean, it's in a way, not to minimize it, but it's like getting the chance to
Starting point is 00:15:50 test drive a vehicle, then you load like, yo, that's the one. That's, that's the one. You know what I'm saying? It's like, well, maybe it ain't something. Nah, it's all that. And there's some sort. So it's just like, yo, this is the one that you feel you want to ride off until the sun. I'm listening. This is a male-driven show. I see. No, we need the ladies to speak up.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And that's amazing. She ain't talking. We need your perspective, Johnny. I mean, I agree. You know, I said, I feel like what's meant to be will be. You know, we were together off and off for 11 years. We broke up for almost 10 years. And I didn't know what was going to happen, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:31 the next time I saw him. We hadn't seen each other until that night. So, you know, when the breakup, first happened, it's like when you see him, I'm like, oh, I'm a punch on it. You know what I hate him. I'm just you know, it was one of those. So being that so much time went by,
Starting point is 00:16:46 that was the first night in almost a decade that we saw each other, talk to each other, anything. So for it to happen like that, it was just like, oh shit. That was God. Since you got the burking and the baby. The burking and the baby and the ring. Don't play with me.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And the ring. Hello. Hello. She got the ring. Lorraine. Lorraine. Lorraine. She said that ring. She says to me, she says, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:17 She asked me what time. Yo, bro, why, you know, why it ain't working out for me like that, right? And I was like, yo, sis, you know, when a guy take you on a date, you got moms, 10 cousins, DJ, secure. Like, yo, on a date. with a whole 12 clip. Imagine you take a girl, y'all, I like you,
Starting point is 00:17:39 let's go on the date. It's the whole fan. I said, your sister, maybe if you cut off some of the honorage on the date, she was like, you think so,
Starting point is 00:17:47 I said, yo, I'll tell you, but the moral to the story is this woman has managed to have the cleanest reputation in this business because she had her mother
Starting point is 00:18:00 and her family and her thing. You ain't, you ain't with no, wide-up stories and all that. You got a prime time, right? Thank you. No, no.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I mean, I'm telling you, I attribute that to you, of course, but I attribute that to your mother and your family for being there because the biggest problem, even in my projects when I grew up, is women being influenced by other women. Women got dirt on her.
Starting point is 00:18:27 She definitely wanted a friend to get dirt on her. Yo, but talk to him, but this. Yo, but this. And then, ha, ha. Yeah. Right. And so she ain't got no dirt on her face clean. And so I love that for y'all too.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Now, this man right here, I don't know if he knows, he took me on my first real tour. And Keisha Cole used to open up for us, and she was saying, What's Love? What? What? What? What? Live. And we went all around the country.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And you and your. and your entire crew, right? Just all of y'all are treated me with so much love over the years. You guys, every time I see you guys, you bring a smile on my face. I mean, all of your guys, all of your guys are amazing. And this is, this, this, this, this, this, this is a beautiful day. Thank you. And, um, has this blown up your schedule or y'all still?
Starting point is 00:19:29 No, we still pure, pure, pure, absolutely. Definitely. I mean, with her, obviously with the baby, she's trying to less as possible. But I'm doing the rest of the tour the rest of the year. We did Australia, Canada, and Europe. She was actually with me for a majority of Europe. And then now we start back here in the States and the end of this month towards a couple weeks or something like that. So thank God I'm still 26 years later.
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Starting point is 00:21:39 We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally.
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Starting point is 00:25:02 Tell us about that. Well, you know, I did a reality show, so to speak, because I was before, Nellyville, but I wanted to show us, fathers, single fathers at that time. You know what I'm saying? And I just thought it was a great way to show the rest of the world that you could still be in here and still doing what we're doing. You know, you got your baby girl with you.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You always keep your babies with you and things like that. And I thought that that would be a dope process. But doing this right here, I just wanted people to get a chance to see exactly the things that you talk about in the qualities of this young lady right here. You know, they don't get a chance to see her charisma, how funny she is and everything from that standpoint. And, you know, it's 2025. So you're looking for different avenues as well. You know, we got to think business at all times.
Starting point is 00:25:48 That's a fact. You see what I'm saying? So she gets to think about everything else for me, and that's a blessing. But I got to think about the, you know what I'm saying, moving this shit forward and keeping the platform. What's it like for you? You're a movie star, you're the number one singer. You're all of the above. What's it like being on TV with cameras around your family?
Starting point is 00:26:11 I mean, it's a lot. It was different, you know, because I'm a lot more private. And I just felt like when we spoke about it, obviously this was his idea. And at first I was kind of like, but then, you know, we're married. So I'm a team player. So I was down. You know what I mean? And it's like us just having real lives.
Starting point is 00:26:30 and careers and traveling. We just got married. I had a baby. That's a lot. So it's kind of like we had to find time for the cameras. You know what I'm saying? To kind of capture everything.
Starting point is 00:26:38 So it was, it's a little bit of a lot. But it's worth it. She got so many other great ideas that she wants to get off the ground and you know how business works. You know what I'm saying? You got to have avenues, outlets, platforms and things to get those out.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You know what I'm saying? You can have great ideas all day. But if you ain't got nowhere to put them, if you ain't got no way to push them, or if you don't, you're just sitting in the career with work. You know what I'm saying? You ain't got no block of no workers. You just sitting in the house with a bunch of, you know, some of the bricks.
Starting point is 00:27:09 You know what I knew an artist who was for the time being, he made nothing but hit records. And I would check on him in the studio and he would, y'all, I made this. And this shit be fire. And everybody go crazy in the studio. He would go, ah, it just ain't right. And he would erase the studio. song. Every night I were here, hit after, hit after hit. When it was just like that, Met the man, Red Man thing, he'd be like, let me play you this. And I'd be like, yo,
Starting point is 00:27:38 just, I'm not quite ready. The guy never came out or never became a superstar. Right? And so the problem is a lot of people, they procrastinate to the point that you talk out, you talk yourself out of the ideas. Yeah. You know, and so in this age, you know, we had Jim Jones up in here and he bought a little film studio in the Bronx. He got them doing
Starting point is 00:28:05 podcasts in there. We need to take matters in our own hands. Exactly. And follow through with the ideas. Exactly. I'm with Shanti.
Starting point is 00:28:16 We at the Beacon Theater. And I never forget. We could go into everything, but I never forget when we got that phone call, Mama, that she sold over 500,000, her first week, her first album.
Starting point is 00:28:31 We're jumping up and down like the Wizard of Oz. That Guinness book. Yeah, that Guinness book. We jumping up and down in the middle of the street. Like, you know, the wicked witch is dead. Because I don't know if you remember how intense that was. It was like, what is it? What's the other?
Starting point is 00:28:50 I remember. What's going on? And we start running around. How does it feel to be on the Guinness book and be one of the biggest female superstars with the most longevity and relevancy in the game. I mean, honestly, it's a blessing. I'm super, super humbled. And it's funny, when you talk about that,
Starting point is 00:29:09 remember, I didn't know what none of that meant. You know what I'm saying? I'm a new artist. So maybe we're happy for you. Yes, everybody's happy. And I'm looking, I'm like, well, is that good? $500,000? Is that a good number?
Starting point is 00:29:20 You know what I'm saying? I've genuinely had no idea. Isn't a good number. It's a good number. That's a good. So I was just like super appreciative and to be able to be here today and still, as we both were in an arena in London to a sold out 20,000 c to holding a mic out, allowing people to sing on records is a blessing.
Starting point is 00:29:44 You know what I'm saying? So I'm just so happy. I'm grateful, you know. Oh, man. You know, we're very competitive in our house. Because, you know, we like that. That means the baby got all that. That's the dagger, though, that she throws.
Starting point is 00:29:57 like my debut did a half. No, no, she don't, but you did 11. He's got a diamond. No, no, no, she's got a diamond. No. You were a debut. Did a half the first week. I'm going down down.
Starting point is 00:30:10 She got me on that. There's nothing I can say. Oh, boy. She's saying. I'm looking at the video. Yeah. Okay, hold on. You 26 or 33.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Hold on. That wasn't a week. You 26 or 33. That was in a week, Jada. That video come out. That was not a week. I'm going down down. You might be a million.
Starting point is 00:30:33 That was not going to. We're not bringing the numbers. It's 10 million solely. That wasn't the week. He got diamond. You were talking about the week. Not talking about the week. Listen, let me run down the hardware that they got in their house.
Starting point is 00:30:51 There's a lot of hardware. Just listen, ladies and gentlemen. Nellie. Three Grammys, four American Music Awards, two BET Awards, nine Billboard Awards. Nellie has sold over 21 million albums in the United States, one of the best-selling rap artists in American history. Country Grammar Diamond, 10 million. Nellyville, Diamond, Plus won 11 million.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Now, Ashanti, one Grammy, two American Music Awards, six Ascap Awards. A Billboard Awards. First debut album, 500,000 of first week, triple platinum. Chapter 2, platinum. Concrete Rose platinum. 36.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Hardware. It's a lot of the best. Archite 36 Christmas movies. You're a lifetime favorite. Ray. Could be. Have a Christmas dream with Rosal Berry.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Just. Yeah. I've been counting on money forever. Yo. Yeah. It's competitive in the house, man. And a star. Oh, in a star.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Can't forget the star. Can you forget the star? Yeah, it's real in there, man. We love that, though. You know what I'm saying? We love that. That's beautiful competition. I met a shanty.
Starting point is 00:32:22 To put that under one room. Let me tell you something. I met it's a blessing. Could we, could I talk about that? Talk about it. I met it Shanti. Shanti was like the studio, just a studio body.
Starting point is 00:32:36 You could call it a studio rat. That's what they used to say. That's what they used. I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying that. Go ahead. Studio body. She up in there. And the first day I met her,
Starting point is 00:32:47 she was so upset because they broke into her car and stole her radio. This woman was ready to file charges to the moon and back. What happened? They just stole my radio. Cracket broke the way.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I mean, it was like somebody murder somebody. I'm up in that shit. I'm like, yo, he stole the radio with the Benzzy box. Oh, you take the box. It was like, they stole her shit. They stole my radio, bro. And, you know, I would see her in the studio and then one day I asked him, I said, yo, what does the girl do?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Right? Because they was like gangster rappers, right? So they said, ah, she sings R&B. Right? And then she did the big pun. Big pun. I said, you want to write a hook for the big pun thing? And she killed it.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Smoked that joint. She smoked that joint. And then we did the West Love. Yep. And then after that, it was the princess of, that was it. Hip, hip-hop and soul. And she, yo, no talk. Every time I see this, he was advocating.
Starting point is 00:33:52 When we weren't together, Nelly. what are you doing? Every time I see her kiss, Nelly! My God, how you been in there? That's great. What are you doing? That's why you need that for ten. You know what you got me?
Starting point is 00:34:13 At first he thought I was bugging out. Yeah, I used to be like Joey. Tom's tripping. It's crazy, right, because I also think of one situation not to bring up anything negative, because we did. But I remember the time I got into it with 50 Cent, who, yo, fifth, what's up?
Starting point is 00:34:30 We performed in Germany in two days. But I remember the time when I got into it with him at the MTV Awards. You know, his business is really crazy, right? Because you think everybody, your man, everybody, this and this and that. Well, you was the only person at all the rappers that I knew
Starting point is 00:34:48 that I seen Get Up. And you, you was telling me, y'all, I got you. Like, I'm holding you down. In that, when I was like, y'all, 50 said this, and then he came back and diss me. But you had my back. Well, I knew five. Me and five always had a great relationship.
Starting point is 00:35:06 That kind of distorted them. Well, no, because, and just to tell, what was we at? MTV Awards. That's what I thought he was going. We were at the MTV Awards, and they were sitting, like, a table right behind us. Now, I didn't have too much to drink. I'm hype.
Starting point is 00:35:23 This is right before Kid Rock and Pamela and Tommy Lee. Slapped the shit out of Tommy Lee. Yeah. So there was something before Chris Rock and was sitting at the table right. I know that. And Kid Rock is sitting with us. And Tommy Lee is like a table over. And my cat, Kid Rock, that's my cat, too.
Starting point is 00:35:46 He hot. He hot is fish grease. He's sitting right there. He's like, I should go. And I'm gas. I'm not going to go do this. You're gassing him? Well, I'm not not gassing him.
Starting point is 00:35:58 You know what I'm like, shit. It was me. You know what I'm saying? So he does what he does. So what he did? He's not cool because I remember Tommy. Tommy Lee.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You remember that MTV Awards out in Vegas? Yeah. We would stay right next to them. We were sitting at the table. But Five was right back here, right? So I'm hype. I didn't got hype. I didn't got big.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I said, B. Fits and I'll make that I apologize You want me to go over there What You make Don't be looking
Starting point is 00:36:30 You want me to go mate She was Nah No way in my heart As I'm thinking She's gonna tell me To go over there
Starting point is 00:36:36 She's like Yeah babe Yep Yep That's a new That's good That's a new Yon You
Starting point is 00:36:43 That's a new You don't So kiss I'm like I'm going So I turn around She can't see my face I'm walking
Starting point is 00:36:52 towards five, like, Hey, man. Let me highlight you. You know, table full of G unit. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, God, just, he's up there. This is not going to go right. This is not going to go well.
Starting point is 00:37:04 You know what I said? And I started laughing coming. He cracked the smile. And I was like, he's fine, man. Hey, man. Do me a favor. Do me a favor. Will you, my old lady, man, do me a favor.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Man, apologize for him. Ashanti, I'm sorry. Exactly what he says. In the middle of the whole crowd in the audience. I was like, I turned back around to her. By the way, I had personally 20 meetings with him over her.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Oh, my God, yes. Without her even knowing, I didn't have sat down with him 20 different times. It was like, yo, bro, she got none that, like, you know, that's my sister. You bugging out. This, this, this, this, 20. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:54 You didn't tell me to him, Mo. I know she got nothing to do with him, but what you want me to do is war. Man. I was like, I was hot. Yeah. You was hard over that, right? Yeah, I didn't have nothing to do with it. And then after he said, he started like, yeah, I.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah. I was like, okay. I was like, thank you. I thought that shit was going to go left. I swore to God. I thought I was out of the lim. Oh, for sure. And with those guys, they.
Starting point is 00:38:21 They love it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Those guys love it. Well, fortunately enough, when we came in the game, we've always had a great relationship with everybody. We've been fortunate enough to stay out of a lot of different scenarios. Even when you came down to one of my first birthday parties.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Whoa. What hotel was that? It's the downtown. I forgot. It was a millennium hotel. Ladies and gentlemen. In Atlanta? One of the craziest birthday parties.
Starting point is 00:38:50 It was the. The craziest birthday party I ever mentioned. I can't even say one of them. It was crazy. He was in a hotel. He had JD, DJ and he had everything you can think of. St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:39:07 His room was one side of the hotel. Are you hearing me? I'm focused. Not a floor, not a tweet. One whole side was his room. It was a. Big ballroom. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:25 It was definitely big for our city and things like that, man. They come, you know, because we was huge locks, huge locks fans. You know, you were spitting. You were spitting, and they never really gave you credit for your lyrics and spitting. They look at you as you so big. No, no, no. Somebody gave credit for something. No, no, I'm just saying as an MC, as a spitter, he was spitting.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I take the bag. You listen to his shit. He was spitting and it never really gets you credit. Lyrically. But you know what? It always felt a little different because I try to find my place and everything in life. You find my place. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:07 It don't matter what I'm in. Find my place. And I hate to tell people to stay in their place because I don't want it to be like you can't grow. But if I find my place, I'm going to stay in my place. You know what I mean? And I found my place. And it's not about, I tell, give me my bag now. Bring my flowers to the grave.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I don't give shit about none of that because flowers die. You know what I'm saying? I need my bag now. So if you bring me my shit now, I worry about everything else. I ain't never really worried about credit because all the people that I fuck with, I fuck with. Like, just knowing that y'all good people, we good people, knowing I got this woman right here and everything else underneath the table, I ain't worried about it. On the surface, like this man said, 21 million. But that was in two albums.
Starting point is 00:40:50 They ain't even counterrested. They didn't count the rest of it. You were country song. You was country before country. 2003. What's that song with the country song?
Starting point is 00:41:01 Tim McGrath. Over and over and over and here's one of my favorite songs too. Woo. Yeah. And that was in 03, 04. And Universal told me I was crazy. I was coming off in Nellyville.
Starting point is 00:41:15 They had just cut me a $13 million check. And I said, Yo, I want to do a country song. They pass the fuck out. Why? You're coming off of Nellyville. You just had dilemma.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Hot in the ear. Now you want to do country. Yes, because I'm lining up my avenues. I know if I land all of these different avenues, doors are going to start closing. And if this door is closed, this door is open. If this door is closed, this door is open. I got all those number one singles,
Starting point is 00:41:44 and they are on every different format. Country, rhythmic. Top 40. But when you heard Nelly I Yeah Now What you
Starting point is 00:41:54 Nellie I Need you Nellie I What you What you Thinking Nah that was a little Before my time
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yeah That was When the dilemma Come out When did the dilemma come out Oh Oh three Yeah that was before
Starting point is 00:42:13 So that was before So you was just Watching the video Like Oh I need this guy This guy. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:42:26 We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking, I'm originally calling it one of the early names
Starting point is 00:42:56 of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say,
Starting point is 00:43:07 Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas
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Starting point is 00:45:27 it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. SportsSlice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to SportsClyce on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slices Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. And what's the story with? Because I want the real story because I've never heard you explain this, right? Um, the fabulous record. I hear it every day of my life with Tamir.
Starting point is 00:45:59 If there's one record, I hear every single day of my life. Maybe I listen to the old school stations. I don't know. But the joint with Tamia, I can't escape. Also into you. Right. But what happened with you? So this is what happened.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Me and Fab did the record, right? Oh, so you did it first with him? No. Yes. I did it first with him. They got the clearance. I'm assuming from. to me to do to redo it because it was originally her song so when she was her song so he asked me
Starting point is 00:46:31 to do the hook we went and did the hook he wanted to shoot a video i don't mean to talk about the past but he didn't want to clear he did not want to clear me being in the video so they was like yo what sense does it make to go with this single and we can't shoot a video right so they went back to Samia and asked if she would do the video. And then they put two versions out. So mine was on a radio and then they had I go all around the world
Starting point is 00:47:02 with you and I watch you perform that record and I said, this must have been her record. Because you ain't singing nobody else's records and you sing that song so passionate on tour. And I'd be like, did they steal this shit from her life? Did she write
Starting point is 00:47:19 this shit? Like I knew there was a story behind this one way. Because you're doing the Navi show. And I'm like, I tell Loretna, too, I was like, yo, man, I think Ashanti, that was a record. They took it from her. You know, I've seen some crazy shit about what's the J-Lo? I've just seen it. It's one of them internet where you say, Joe.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Stop. Stop. We're having a Kirstie B.W. So you're gonna do me on my own. A little dog, don't course, a thing. He didn't even if you're all. It was Shanty Moore's record. And Ronnie Jirkins produced it for her
Starting point is 00:47:55 But he told her to make it the number one The first single She didn't go with it at the first single And he gave it to J-Lo J-Lo took off with that shit Oh wow That's like them stories Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:07 That's almost like always on time You know that Brandy was supposed to do that Yeah Brandy was supposed to do it I happened to be in the studio And put a Shantzy on there See what happens Shanti always sounds good at that one
Starting point is 00:48:22 Because, you know, Jay-Lo was supposed to be what's love. Yes, I remember when you told me that, that was back in like, we was on a, we was not a Zoom, you stream, we was on something and I didn't know that. Remember, we were talking. I didn't know that. First of all, let's just say, rest of peace, serve God. You know, I was supposed to be on We Are the World. Who took the record, Jay to, who took your spot?
Starting point is 00:48:49 I was supposed to do Bruce Springsteen part. I was supposed to do Bruce Springsteen part. No, they called Bruce, but... I'm telling you... It was a toss-up. They took Bruce, though. I'm telling you what happened. Right?
Starting point is 00:49:02 So I get to the... They call me, Irv Gotti and Jaru, three in the morning. I go to the studio. It's... Isn't it? This studio was out of my pay grade, too. It was one of them big shits
Starting point is 00:49:15 with the big... Like, the hit factory to speak it... Like you... Big-ass. That's like space. I've been recording the Bummy Studios my whole life. I get up in there and like this,
Starting point is 00:49:25 so they put. press the thing and it's then it was love right she's on it and he's like the Latino connection you and your sister J-Lo this will be
Starting point is 00:49:37 life-changing this is he's selling me all this shit and I'm like yo but what's up with the girl on the she sounds perfection so I'll be having this thing called like Demoitis
Starting point is 00:49:47 if it ain't don't say it don't play with it don't change the shit just like this just like that Live it like that. Mix it like that.
Starting point is 00:49:57 No I'm saying. I ain't going on live. We did lean back. Scott Stor sending a mix. He added bells to it and all shit. I was like, oh, no. I want the demo. If it's a,
Starting point is 00:50:09 that's a thing. No. Demoitis is a great thing. And it was the best. Demoitis is fine because I didn't have a name for it. No, what it is. What it is is, you know what you're doing. You like it the way.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Like, there's a hit. Is it any worse feeling in the world than when they send it back in and it sounds nothing like the original? I'm not going to say the lean back sounded nothing like the original. He just added like cowbells and shit. And I was like, yo, bro. You know, knock yourself out. The one that the world here ain't the one that I went to Virginia and sat with Farrell and did. He changed the beat.
Starting point is 00:50:50 The whole shit. Oh, yeah, no. P. Let's teach that. No, no. I know about post-production. This was, I rhymes on a whole other. It's like, that's a whole other song.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I was mad as hell. I just pick, rest in peace. Shout out the Ferrell. They like, trust me. I'm like, no. It's a whole other. And it still came. A lot of times you got to go with your gut.
Starting point is 00:51:19 But sometimes, sometimes it pays to hear somebody out, though. It depends on who it is. Because you could trust for real, you know for else. Some people got, they know what they're doing. You know what I mean? But a lot of times, you know, you got to go with your gut. I had things switched up again.
Starting point is 00:51:40 My first single, Country Grammar. Again, I never heard the radio version. Never heard boom, boom, uh-uh. The course was going down, down, down street sweep. Going down, your street in a range rover. Street sweeper cocked ready to let it go. Shimmy, shimmy, cocoa, what? Listen to it.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Pow, light it up and take a puff. Pass it to me now. Never in my life heard, boom, boom, uh, uh, down, baby, your street in the rain go. Boom, boom, uh, uh, uh, that's the clean version. That's the clean.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Never heard it. I cried. Cried. Cried. They are trying to ruin me. I knew it. And I ain't going to even lie. Boy, listen, I blamed it on New York.
Starting point is 00:52:23 See, they don't. No country music. I swear to God. I swear to God. New York embraced you. And there's always a big lie. Right. There's a big lie.
Starting point is 00:52:34 It's not from the Bronx. No, no, there's a big lie. He's not for the Bronx. He got this thing that all our guests is from the Bronx. Everybody. She shot the video to what's love in the Bronx, Fordham University. Don't do that to yourself. Listen, let me tell you, you fucked up what I was going.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I don't say. You did it. But let me tell you something. He goes up. So I'm scared to fly at the time. I get on the tour bus. I go from Vegas. I drive all the way down to Cancun.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Got stuck up about six, seven times. All by cops. Mexican dudes this small. They're guns as tall as these lights. They're in the middle of nowhere. 100 pesos. By the seventh time, I had to grab the Bible. No.
Starting point is 00:53:24 No, no, I had to grab the Bible and open it up and be like, God, please, I can't get robbed no more. It wasn't even for my, it was my fucking sanity. I was like, yo, they sticking us up every hour. Some guy, some cop is pulling us off getting us for a hundred hours. You know what I was doing, calling each other. Not in the way on the way. Get them. Listen, so I get the Cancun, right?
Starting point is 00:53:50 And at that point, we perform it for spring break. So my album is only selling $5,000 a week at the time. So I say, yo, I got to kill this. I tell Lorena, I say, you, Lorena, I got to do something crazy. She said, go topless. Uh-oh. I said, what? Go topless.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Ain't no big guy ever come out there and have his shit all open. Just throw a little towel on you. We went topless. Yeah. Me and Ashanti. It's out of here. They ain't looked back since. I felt bad for you now when I look at it
Starting point is 00:54:26 because I was a big, I never stunk in my life but I was a big boy sweating. I said, damn Shani must have been like, this fat. Like, fuck wrong with him. And let me tell you something. The white people discovered fat Joe once, what's love came on. I never performed for blacks and Spanish people
Starting point is 00:54:45 for the first two years. I was bar mitzvahs, all type of shit. I'm getting the bag bag back. I was like, yo, when we're going to perform for Black people. Like, what's going on? That means you get in the bag, right?
Starting point is 00:54:59 And so the shit kept, after we did that performance, all the white shows like Soap Talk, Saturday Night Live, they was like, this guy is called Joey Crack. And they had an arrow at my butt crack. Ain't no white people loved it. This shit went up $10,000 a week, $20,000 a week. The shit went on fire. We sold 2 million records.
Starting point is 00:55:23 And it's really because that one performance turned that shit up on fire because they were making fun of me. But I guess it was like Vival moment. I had a time. But it was confidence. They could make fun, but that you. They remember it. That's a moment. That's the moment, man.
Starting point is 00:55:40 That's history right there. No, no, we got big history. We got big history. You got the biggest. You know, that peacock is where we find that show. Where can they check the show out? Peacock check out. Come out.
Starting point is 00:55:53 This week? Yes, the 26th, Thursday. That's why you guys. We're giving you all eight episodes at once. Get you suspension. Watch the whole thing. Come out crushing the game because you know you get Thursday. You see one episode or two.
Starting point is 00:56:07 They're giving you all eight at once. Make sure y'all check that out on Peacock. It's called We Belonged Together. Yeah. They belong together. Nellie, that's the, that's the show. You have strong ties to the ATL. How did that come about?
Starting point is 00:56:22 Shout out to Jay. Man. Shout out to our So So Deaf family. Been going to Atlanta for a long time, man. I mean, Atlanta, a huge influence on Nelly. Obviously, I'm a huge dungeon family. Dungeon family. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Goody Mide, rest in peace, Rico. Goody Mild. Big Gip. Cilgo Green. There is no Nelly without Celo Green. You see what I'm saying? Like, just understanding that, big Gip. And then Outcast, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:56:53 Outcast changed the whole way I was doing music, hearing them brothers, you know. And then met up with JD, my man Big Bob, who was security for JD at the time for a long time. And still is. He's just helping me out. Like, but yeah, man. And JD, that's part of why me and JD is so close and a lot of people. JD did have an opportunity to sign me. I tell that story all the time.
Starting point is 00:57:23 But me not knowing the business, I was a little bit upset with JD at the time. But knowing the business, I found out, you know, at that time he had just signed, what did he just sign, Mays, Harlem World? It's at the same time. He had just signed Mace Harlem World. And the homie Mace, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:42 was going through his life and whatever he was going through and had to step away for a minute. So, you know, those dominoes fall on a lot of different people at the time. And I was trying to come out right then. and right there. But the thing about it is J.D. always kept a friendship with me as far as, yo, I can't sign you, but you're a cool motherfucker. And I was like, shit, this guy ain't got to let me hang with him.
Starting point is 00:58:06 And you know what I mean? And he was still keeping it peep. So that's like a big brother to me, man. And I've always been a so-so deaf fan and Tip and everybody else. I don't know, man. STL to ATL got strong ties anyway. Like a lot of people from STL and their lives. You know, here's two, New York.
Starting point is 00:58:25 A lot of the evening got a Bronx day in Atlanta. They got every day in Atlanta. You know, kids, they never want to pay me to do Bronx day. They never want to pay. They got a Bronx day. You don't get fat Joe. You got to go do that. And they're ATL, this is bad.
Starting point is 00:58:39 You got to. They have a Bronx day. I'll be wanting to go for free to. All things Bronx. You got to, they got a Bronx day. Joe got to be there to make it official. You know what's up with these people, man. Like, this is the biggest disrespect in the world.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I'm going to tell you an ill story, right? I'm at a show with Nellie. I think we was in Nashville, right? And the next day was like the Grammys or something. And you asked me before the show, you said, yo, you're going to the Grammys? I said, yeah, I'm going to Grammys tomorrow, this and this and that. It was like, yo, come with us.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I show up. We go to the private airport, everything laid out. We go inside. This guy, he can really, he ain't scared of planes. He knocked out so fast. That's my way of not being scared. Back at the time, it's just like, yo, just go to sleep. Whatever don't happen is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Yo, I can't go to my hands, bro. I cannot go to sleep. If I don't take a pill like I'm going overseas or something like that, I can't go to sleep. So what I'm trying to say is the plane lands, when it lands, there's a Bentley, a Rose Royce right outside with a driver. Nellie gets out, goes down the stairs, they open the door, they close the door, and he leaves. I said, this motherfucker, Rich. No, this, you know, listen, he ain't take a picture or no.
Starting point is 01:00:03 You know, people get in the private, they start, yo, the picture in the private. Walked on birthday parties in the private. This guy looked like he'd do this for breakfast. Like, I see him go. I swear to God. No, no, I swear to God. He walked right in the Rose Royce in L.A.
Starting point is 01:00:19 And he drove off. And I was like, did I really fly over here with Nellie? That was my Rose Royce, but that was her Rose Roy. You took the Rose Royce. I mean, you know. Come on, bro. How are you doing, sis? You're real happy in life, huh?
Starting point is 01:00:38 I'm amazing. I've been watching your interviews. You've been hinting towards another baby. Yeah. So you want another one? I definitely do. I love my son. How could we not have another one?
Starting point is 01:00:50 The other one going to be. be not as nice as this one. Everybody says that. No, no. I'm just telling you the truth. Why? If one come like an angel, holy shit.
Starting point is 01:01:04 That Hampstead, Long Island, he's coming out like, yo, you know, oh my God, I didn't know that these things. I don't think so. You got the nice one off rip.
Starting point is 01:01:14 You, James? Same thing. What? She think it's a game. When you got the baby of the year. The nicest one. You get the other one.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I mean, you know, he might throw some building blocks at you and shit like that. You know, you might get a girl. Now, the women. Yeah. The girl's the hardest thing. Like, I know, I know.
Starting point is 01:01:36 You know, you know, it's crazy, man. No, I won't go there, Mama. But shout out to your sister. But, you know, my whole life I watched, as he and Lorenna argue about, from four, three years old outfits. I'm not wearing that.
Starting point is 01:01:54 That's got my style. That ain't my swag. To this day, they'd be like, I'd be like, yo, you know your mom's got swag. Like, she's trying to help you. I don't care, Dad, this ain't mine. It's what I want. But that's what the girl give you.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yeah. I want a girl, though. Balance it out. I got my boy. You know, I want my little baby. What if you get a boy? Then we still, we're still out there working? We may have to.
Starting point is 01:02:20 We may have to shoot one more time. I think now you can get... I'm not messing with God, but I think now you can get like the injection and pick of your baby one blue eyes. Like a builder man baby. Yeah, you can build your baby like a car right now. Yeah, like a builder man.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I'm telling you, I see some people that have a baby and a baby, I've never even seen the girl pregnant. And then she got a baby, the baby got blue eyes. They, yo, my baby's here. You're like, yo, what the, like, nobody got blue eyes in the family. Nobody. Not one family, man.
Starting point is 01:02:57 They got shit like that, but she says she wants another baby. We got many and she won't. Long as we, many nannies as we need. Can't chase toddlers at 50, man. That's rough. Joe, that's a workout, Joe. A toddler? You work out every day, though.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Thank you. No, not as much as I used to. I got to get back in there. But, I mean, I'm just saying she's learning now because he's active. He's moving. From my little video footage, I've seen a nephew. He got a lot of idiots. Yeah, he's picking them up and putting them down in a minute, too.
Starting point is 01:03:32 He's trying to walk and all of that. And he's getting close. And he's rough. Very rough. He's rough. He's rough, bro. He's scared of shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:03:43 Like, you can pick him up, throwing him up there. He's laughing on the way that. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
Starting point is 01:03:59 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 01:04:13 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking, I'm originally. calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 01:04:28 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad,
Starting point is 01:04:37 Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 01:04:45 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel,
Starting point is 01:05:06 help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves,
Starting point is 01:05:41 their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context,
Starting point is 01:05:55 and ask the questions everybody wants answered. SportsSlice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slices Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect.
Starting point is 01:06:16 We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levant this plant to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings, from... entirely different worlds.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Let me ask you a question, right?
Starting point is 01:07:17 And if you don't want to answer it, we don't answer it. Oh, we throw it. I'm just got to keep real. No, I got to keep it real, right? Yeah. Or throw it out. You tell me, throw it out. Come on with.
Starting point is 01:07:29 We edit in it. When I see the stuff like seeing lunatics suing you and shit like that. Yeah. How do you feel about that? I think for the most part, they had no. This is a family show. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is talking about family.
Starting point is 01:07:48 I have no problem. That's what I'm talking about family. No problem with answering this. I think people were misinformed. When we started the lunatics, first of all, Murphy Lee was a year out of high school, very much stage. My brother Kiwan, and then once we got the deal, city spud, went to jail, right? So me and the oldest one, we were the ones more engaged on the business side.
Starting point is 01:08:21 of things and how things were transpiring. I think everybody else was just happy to be there. So, you know, it's like if you were in a group, you got some people that's going to the meeting, some people that's on the phone call, some people that are in those rooms when certain situations are being discussed and how they go.
Starting point is 01:08:38 And you got other people that's, nah, I just leave that to y'all. Nah, I just lead that to y'all. I lead that to y'all. So when the thing came up of how everything got broken down in the beginning, We had a fucked up deal in the beginning. So the way things got spreaded out was that the oldest member of the group, the manager is his best friend, our business manager is his best friend, and our role manager is his best friend.
Starting point is 01:09:08 So they negotiated everything. They put everything into perspectives. And you see what I'm saying? And I'm trying to because they still got other things. But they were influencing the other ones. So when the ones that did not know what happened found out what happened, now you see us back on tour except for one. Because long story short, the truth just need to be told.
Starting point is 01:09:35 And people needed to find out not just why it is, but how it is. And when you found out how it was, you understood, they understood. Let me explain some of you. I've never seen nobody keep it more real with their crew. than you. I want you to know if I'm sitting in New York and I see this shit
Starting point is 01:09:55 it's like a sledge hammer hit me and bust my head open like a fucking watermelon because I've been with you. They say you don't understand. No, I'm telling you the truth. No, but they say you don't understand who you are with
Starting point is 01:10:07 until you go through something negative. That was our first time ever going through anything that wasn't positive because, you know, we were very, very fortunate, very, very blessed that when we first came out, we were rocket shipping. You know what? So when it got to a point to where, okay, now everybody needs to, everybody's trying to pay attention
Starting point is 01:10:27 to something they should have been paying attention to since day one. But here's the thing, bro, ever since this group been informed, I've always had the most money. From the time we came into this crew, I came into this crew with two cars, my own apartment, and everything else that was, you see what I'm saying? I've always paid my own way and other people's way to get through certain things. So I've never not paid attention to business. You know what I'm saying? Never not paid attention to business.
Starting point is 01:10:54 You used to insist people pay attention to business. You used to ask people, you know what's going on? You know what these, you know, but like you said, when the money is coming in, nobody wants to say nothing. And then obviously they look up on the day that the money is not what they think it should be and then wonder why they don't have it like that. But we all go through trials, tribulations. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:11:16 But I'm hip-hop. You put that well, my brother. No, I appreciate it. I know, you can understand it. Because I'm telling you. You got to reflect. I've been in his game 30 years. I've been around so many crews.
Starting point is 01:11:29 We love the locks because their brotherhood cannot be. They don't even know that. That's why they're together like this. You hear what I'm saying? The locks is, I think their whole dynamic to me is that they never let nobody break them up. They together. I think that's what the streets love. So when I just evaluate the whole hip-hop game
Starting point is 01:11:51 and I've been around everybody, I've never seen nobody keep it more real than you. And I love everybody, so I'm letting them know I'm not. Well, I never see nobody take care of their crew more than you. So it was shocking to me just, you know, sitting back, you know, and sometimes you don't know you can have that effect on somebody else. No, I was just like, you know what I'm saying? No, but I've always, I've always thought that we just said the same thing.
Starting point is 01:12:15 do she. You know, you know, that's your sister. You know, she's like, what the fuck? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:21 I was pissed. I was looking at it. You know, because she can read certain shit like, yeah. I said he's the most generous person
Starting point is 01:12:30 I've ever met when it came to that the family and that group and the, the percentages. And I was like, you're giving out what?
Starting point is 01:12:38 In the beginning coming off tour? I come, we come off the Nelly tour. I split it down the middle. I take half and I give them half. So if we come off a tour with $20 million, I take 10, the group get 10.
Starting point is 01:12:53 No, but the group get they 10 and go home. I take my 10 and I pay. Commissions, expenses. I pay everything else. Everybody else get to go take their money and go and go sideways. You know what I mean? Like so. You know, betrayal, man.
Starting point is 01:13:10 You can't build a war high enough. That should have jumped right over. That shit hurts. You know, that might be. Trails is the only thing that might be closer, similar than worse than death, it hurts you that much. Yeah, because it's always somebody who, that you love. That you love, that you trust at that time to show himself. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:13:35 Because can't nobody you don't know or don't care about hurt you like that. Right. You know what I'm saying? There's always somebody you know. They say it's the ones closest to you, but there's always somebody you know that they can really, really hurt you and then you'd be like, man, I'm just speaking about me. Now you know, I'm just saying, how many times I'm not looked out for this person, how many times I gave them a chance, how many times people told me, yo, don't have them
Starting point is 01:13:58 around you, how many times this and this and that, and then you still went all out, and then they wind up doing the unimaginable. Firm believer, everything happens for a reason to a certain degree. And a lot of times what I had to tell, you know, I talk to my, my nephew, J.T., Jason Tatum, and shout out to J.T. He had his injury. Get wild. So, my brother.
Starting point is 01:14:24 You know, but I was telling them, yo, don't look at it like that. This is for something. But here's the tricky part. It's not always in what you think it is. It may not be for music. You see what I'm saying? Like, what's happening to you here may be needing you to look somewhere else. It may be time.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Like, I was talking to JT. I say, yo, it may not be about basketball. I said, because you're him in basketball, it may be you need to spend this time with your son. It may be something you need to spend this time with mom. You may need to go back home and do something. It may not have nothing to do with basketball. So when something affects you that deep,
Starting point is 01:15:02 take a full 360 look at it. Take a full 360 look at everything that's going on around you. Just because that's what put the brakes on it, don't mean that that's the problem. just means that you needed to stop for something and you have to pay attention to what it is. But that's the only way you're going to grow, period. Now, you can get mad, say fuck that that motherfucker wrong and keep going to go. But it's something else going to happen.
Starting point is 01:15:28 I'm telling you, something else going to happen because you never, you never fixed it. You got to get a lesson. You got to get a message. You never fucking addressed it. You know what I mean? And not to bring it back full circle, but that's why I think me and her sitting here to this day because it was always about a full. circle look. It was never about, you know, does this person bring more positivity than your life
Starting point is 01:15:50 than negative? I don't give fuck who they are, Joe. I don't give fuck who they all kids. It could be your mama, your daddy, your auntie, your uncle. It can be your fucking kids. Does that person bring more positivity to your life than negative? And if it's not, then you need to get the fuck away from them. And sometimes, like you said, family will be the first ones that are to do it to you. But your family should always bring more positivity than negative. It shouldn't even be close. But if it is, then you know goddamn well. And anybody else around, man, just stay positive. Put them on a mural.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Put them on a t-shirt. Hell yeah. Jay to be talking some shit, bro. Put the boot on that motherfucker and car. Listen, guys, we love you guys, man. Thank you so much. We appreciate you. You know, y'all out promo on the show.
Starting point is 01:16:34 You know, you not rewinded the time. What's that? You ain't get on to this. Rewind the time, man. Kiss Cafe. Look at this right here, this thing. This is like Tyson back. No, no grays.
Starting point is 01:16:48 No, I don't want that. I don't want that for you. I'm not. I don't want that for you, but you see this claim? Listen, Tyson back, Chris. What's the numbers? We got change. We got why I look 53 when you could be 42?
Starting point is 01:17:05 Why be 43 when you could be 32? Now, I'm going to tell you. I never go against you. And then her sister got a glam squad. And she'd say she like you with that gray shit. She's lying, bro. She's trying to keep you out of a straight-haven. No, he ain't got it.
Starting point is 01:17:25 That's cool. I'm saying winning. I mean, hopefully it never had to say when in half. I'm not going to get you some kids. I'm getting you one-on-one T for you. If it ever comes to that, I got you. I'm not knocking. No, I'm not knocking at all.
Starting point is 01:17:40 knocking at all. I don't need it. We got Caled Travis Kelsey. Joe. He's trying to force it. Yo. I'm holding on. Let me a deal.
Starting point is 01:17:51 I rewind a time. Make it all got favorite shoes. Jay and said, give me a lot of time. That ain't this. That ain't this. It's right. It's right.
Starting point is 01:18:01 It's just, baby. That ain't this. Thank our guests. And Lennie for coming on the Joe and Jay's show. Y'all. We love you. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
Starting point is 01:18:19 I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 01:18:30 We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:19:15 podcast. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast, Point Game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was partying.
Starting point is 01:19:30 You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis keep coming to you. He's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball.
Starting point is 01:19:41 So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is, getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is, getting a new one put up in its place. I'm Akila Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 is about both of those things. As I was watching these statues come down, I was thinking about what it meant that I grew up in a majority black city in which there were more homages to enslavers than there were to
Starting point is 01:20:09 enslave people. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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