The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Jim Jones on Nas, LL Cool J & hip hop idols, making rap money, raising kids

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss welcome Harlem's own, Jim Jones, as the three hip hop legends discuss coming up in the game in New York. Jim discusses what he does to stay relevant as he ages and how he is involved in more than just making music. Next, Jim discusses his place in hip hop as Joe asks him about a comparison that was made on IG about Jim being like Nas, and what Jim thought about that. Jim discusses how legends Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, and LL Cool J influenced his style when he was coming up. The fellas then discuss the importance of how they raise their kids and what it means for them to be able to provide for their families and community. That and more on another episode of Joe and Jada. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I'm a passionate brother. I wear my heart on my sleeve. I cry a lot of shit like that. I'm very emotional. So when people talk about me, I got to stand up for me because nobody else is going to stand up for me as you see. I fight all my battles on my own.

I take losses and I take my wins the same way. You heard, the same smirk, just like this. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? This is Joe Crack. It's your boy, Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Presented to you by BoostMobil. Boost, Boost, Boost.

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My brother Jim Jones, Capo status, you heard, make some noise. What's up with everybody? Also, this is a PSA. We're not going to talk about my brother's styles, and we're not going to talk about camp. One, I don't condone that shit, and two, there's a lot more other beautiful shit going on in the world than to rile up some shit.

There's another thing to talk about. Me and styles are actually brothers, two brothers that love each other. You don't got to explain. I'd be wanting people to know that. We don't have to get into that because we already know what it is. And they're going to see soon enough. You know what I mean? Element of surprise is always beautiful.

You've been very hard working over the past few years, putting out projects, working everywhere, doing tech work, doing all kind of shit. you're everywhere. You're safe to say you've been very productive and very rich. What's your motivation

to keep making music to stay, you know, relevant? Buying BMWs for your son and all. And the money is always the motivation. I mean, hip-hop has gave me a life

that I wouldn't want to trade for nothing else in the world. I mean, I had my ups and downs, but for the most part, This has been a hell of a ride and I'm just enjoying it even more. But to stay in it, you've got to be real with yourself and realistic your output. Because a lot of people try to do it, but they don't, I would say try to do it. There's a lot of people doing things, but for me is trying to be able to reinvent myself,

the perseverance, staying current. not chasing a young generation, but finding a medium where we both could benefit from. So there's a lot that comes with this journey in this past few years that I put myself on. I had to prove to myself that a lot of these things you see going on is things that I'm actually proven to myself and not for no one else, things that I know I could do, things that I constantly tell myself to get up off your ass and get it done because you could do these things with your eyes closed and things like that. Procrastination is a motherfucker. And when you're at the top of your game

and you discourage a little bit, procrastination can hold you even more. And I had to figure out how to learn how to be comfortable and uncomfortable situations and things like that. And, you know, there's no different from coming to where we came from and things like that. When our back was against the world,

we figured out different ways to overcome that. And being in the game is no different. Look at Jim Jones. He's a hall worker. He's relentless. He don't stop. You definitely got better lyrically over the years, right?

And so at what point you said, you're going to get nice and take the lyricism to another level because we've been hearing it, but we see your growth, you know, and also, I feel like you got a million people on your back too. Like, I learned for so many artists from you, say a dice, peso, say all the other guys.

You know, you ain't just pushing you. You pushing a whole. Tell me about that. It's always my passion to help people. And in music, that's been one of the things that I'm pretty good at. I got a great air for music, a great eye for talent. I know how to help them and curate them into a way that they have a fair chance of success. And that was one of the things that I always wanted to do,

even when there was a time that I thought I was going to stop dual music when I had just moved to Miami for a couple years straight and just in a whole different zone. But even in Miami, I chose to help a whole bunch of artists out there, which I did Miami Vamps. And that's how people got to hear Zoe Dollars and shout out to my boy bald greasy and money and all these. I mean, so it's something to have a knack for them.

But it seemed like the more that I gave, it was the more that I got. I mean, the more selfless I was, was the more that I was blessed, even in my time that I needed it the most. It was like I gave the people when I didn't have nothing at certain times. The story of Jim Jones is pretty much

making something out of nothing. I don't want to make this a tradition, but you're all from the Bronx. It just so happens. Joe Jada. Here we go. We're going to go for a self-to-stop. We're going to claim my guys.

You know what I'm saying? He's from the BX. Now, because it seems like everybody who come on and really from the BX. And you're from the BX. I, Hallam love you. You know what I'm saying? That's cool. You know what I'm saying?

But he just went through this with another guess. I have to do it. I've been both in the Bronx and Harlem. He said Rocky don't say he's from the Bronx. He's from the Bronx. I know this. I was really born in Harlem. My hospital was in Harlem.

Okay, damn. I didn't know that. My sister was born in Bronx, Lebanon, but I was born in Bronx, but I was born in Boston. You're hurting my bribe right now saying you was born in Harlem. I mean, they bring from, from Flalford Avenue, they bring me the Weeks Avenue to Cotonna Park, to Cotona Park. I need them all lined up from the Bronx.

No, I'm a Bronx kid. I just, I'm a hybrid. I was, I was, I, yeah, Jay. I need them all lined up. I need all my chest pieces. I need, you know, the clips, they're from the Bronx. Then they move down to VA. I'm just telling you the truth.

I got the best of both worlds, man. I got all the attributes from the Bronx and everything from Harlem. Like, I'm a rare breed. Like, I understand. I'm a very aggressive rare breed. I'm a very aggressive hustler. You know what I mean? I got the best of both worlds.

So I love it, man. Shouts to the VX. Shout to all my guys. You know, people used to. And I don't want to sound like a broken record. but people used to champion a hustler, somebody who really wants to get money, want to go on another level,

take their family on another level. They used to champion that. And I get it when you sit here and we say, yo, why are you pushing? Why are you moving like you 20 years old and you won't stop in this? And you're like, yo, I'm trying to get this bread. Right?

I'm the same way. We love hip-hop culture. We love everything. I'm trying to get this bread to make sure we financially secure. You understand what I'm saying? Some people act like they cool with being broke or something like that.

So I know your motivation and I understand your answer. You know, you're just a true hustler from, if we wasn't rapping, we'd be selling whatever, juice. Who gives a fuck? We're trying to get money. I'm selling juice. I'll pick up cans.

I love juice. I love Kitt Cafe. But what I'm trying to say is, I understand that about Jim Jones. The Jim Jones, a hustler. He loves money. He loves the finer things in life. And I said something the other day, me and you talked about behind the scenes where people don't get it, right?

So I said rapists work check to check. 100%. What does that mean to you that statement? Because me and you had that conversation. I mean, it's the same difference of the people that's coming up more than nine to five and they got to pay their bills. We got to pay our bills, too. The expenses that we acquire for having money is the same expense. that you have at the end of the month.

So we don't meet our quota. We don't pay for these big-ass houses and these fly-carers that we got. Then they start taking them away. The same as you. You don't make that money. You didn't pay that rent at the end of the month. Then they start coming in with them notices

and get you out the crib. There's no difference. There's no difference. And the risk is even higher for us because we got so many things going on and shit like that. And we start acquiring bills out of nowhere. And pretty soon they're going as good. And sometimes they're going to get bad.

And then if you ain't prepared for that and able to hold up everything that users acquire, it disappears in a flash. ever had to tell your wife? DefCon 4. Hope? That's when it gets to DefCon. Break that down to be checking.

I've been to death call before you heard. We, I'm pretty sure we all three up here could attest when shit is going beautifully. And then it's like you said, there's a time when shit ain't going beautiful. How do you persevere? Do them time. That builds character. Let me tell you something. people in life

they always and this ain't no shots at nobody right but people in life let's say with me I've been in a situation where I'm doing fucked up you know better than your average guy but I'm doing fucked up compared to how I do

and people find reasons to disattach themselves from you when you're going through the struggle and you're sitting on the couch by yourself trying to figure out how you're going to get up out this hole?

You know, I had so-called friends find excuses. One of my friends had an argument of one of my friends. He was like, yo, Joe, I know that's more your man than I am. You know, you stay with your man's and I stay. To me, I knew he used that opportunity thinking, Joe fucked up. Joe going to need a dollar. He's going to ask me, let me, you know, and then you come back and you bigger than ever. Them guys are like, they missed a...

No, I got a funny story. Let me hear, Jim, I got to hear it. We ain't going to say my name's though. We ain't talk about nobody, but what I'm just saying? I got an example. This got to be an education. A friend of mine, when I was up, you come asking him some help, cool.

Go down. Nobody comes to help you. You hurt? But he's up now while I'm down. You're hurt? And I'm, you know, I see him all the time. There ain't nothing. now I'm back up

he's down guess what he's doing asking you for help no I'm not doing that I'm not doing that yo Jim Jim I'm not doing it I promise you on God

I'm not doing it I'm not doing it I'm done with that I might be too old y'all might be younger to me to play that shit I'm not playing I'm just telling you how to the cycle like yo bro this is the craziest shit ever to me bro

I'm not doing it let me tell you I got a story hold up hold up I got a story. I'm fucked up. They take all my money. I know y'all don't want to believe me. Accountant robbed me, didn't pay my taxes. When the government come to me, he robbed me for $1.2 million.

He ain't pay. I'm paying them to pay. And showed the government the wires that I'm paying the accounting to pay my tax. They know I gave him the money, but they said you as the leader of your household. Boom. I go to court. I paid him to 1.2 again. Pay the lawyer another 7,800.

I got the number one guy. Cool. Fuck me, put me a little jail time. The point is, I go first day to the studio. Yo, Jim Jones, I know your story too well. I go first day to the studio. Come out of jail.

You got these little niggas with purple hair, yellow hair, thinking what the OG's doing in the studio. They're really looking at us like, we're wasting our time. Don't know if you know that, right? So they're looking at it. me, we come up all the way up.

Yo, Ram, come get on the song. It's all the way up. It spun one day that strip club and the Aces that was flying Queens. They said, yo, we want to do that single release party. Bet, yo, Ram, let's go. She's jail eight years. I lose all my money. I might as well been in jail for 20.

I don't do, bro. Don't take this the wrong way. Take this encouraging. I don't. do bro. I'm allergic to bro. I'm a go get it if it's in the fucking Africa Timbuktu

Asia. No rock on turn. I'm going to get that dollar. Like don't worry about it and I'm not complaining. I don't do bro. But one day the shit ring. The next day it's a single release. Maybe two days after all the way up come out.

You knew when you heard it all the way up. You knew when you heard it. Holy shit. These guys hit one out the You knew it. Off one spin. They hit one out the park. So we go to Aces. This is a two-day effect.

This is probably ball in. Like, there's a two-day effect. The club is on tilt. The walls are sweaty. Out of control. I get to my section. And it's a hundred people in my section. And I'm sitting there like this.

And they're coming up, Yo, God, we did it again, God. We did it. Yo, yo, yo, God. Yo, you, private jets again, God. Yo, yo, yo, they're coming. Right? And I'm sitting there.

And Remi's there. Pistu's there. Rest of peace, Percy was there. So we rock. I mean, not even Lean Back. Yeah, Lean Back did this. But just two days later, how they understood every word, I didn't know. It was one of them, right?

They turned the lights on. We're walking out. I'm walking out with a hundred motherfuckers. me of me. I stop. This is the same story you breaking out. I stop. I turned around. I sit your pistol.

Percy, I don't ever want to see these niggins in my life again. You. You! You! Yo! Remi turn around

and look at them and go. You heard the God, we don't want to see y'all no more. We walked out. We never seen them again. So you think after all the times we put people on privates, we take them on hotels, you ward shows, you eating states, you eating lobsters, we paying your bell, we're paying your rent, we paying your this and this and that? You guys disappear when the time get rough.

Then you want to show up, talking about we did it again? I'm not, I swear to God, I've forgiven people before. This time it was over. Because I know I went to the bottom of the barrel. God forgives. I don't. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what?

We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts.

Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.

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Fitness is everything, man. I mean, that's how found in the youth. That's a way to live a longer life. Fitness and diet diet is just important as fitness. I had to learn that. I was just... Yeah, because I know you're like eating. I know you got to, like, you have cheat day with sweets.

Yeah, and I had to stop all that. I actually had... I was about to tell you, like, the doctor, like, six months ago, the doctor told me I was pre-diabetic, so it wasn't really about how much I was. working out. It was about how much sugar and bad food out of me and trying to use the excuses working out even though I was

looking good. The inside wasn't looking good. So I had to reverse the whole thing and just cut out the sugars, cut out the cakes, cut out the ice cream, cut out everything that I really liked and shit like that. It's just like that. Real food and sticks it up to a lot of fruits and shit like that and I feel a hundred times. But you know, but you caught these are you

doing, nah, you're doing too much. Yeah, Jim, you don't push up in the snow with the dog on top of you with a chain hanging off a shit one in the arm this shit is unbelievable like I'm looking at this guy I can be anywhere in the world

I'm looking at Jim Joseph and he shows you how much you're not healthy when I see this guy just zooming through the gym you too you big on it too Jay be in there I'll be watching you're gonna pull a ball going on and I can't get

I'm just trying to be prepared for ever come at me. That's it. You know what I mean? Like, I know I live a life that comes with a lot. And I got to be ready to stand tall for whatever it comes at me. Let me ask you a question. When we're done with that?

When we, I feel like I'm done with that. Where anything coming at us, right? Like, I think we all prove, hold up. Let me just, let me say something. It can happen to you inside the Bac and Rock Hotel. No, I know. You see me in the airport. I know.

I know. I know. I know you can start with him. Okay. So that's, this is what was the for. So if I wasn't on my team, the white man would have got the best of being niggas with my whole career,

half my career had been down. Oh, the white man beat Jim. That shit would have been the biggest thing in the media for years. Like, no, nigga, you should have act tough with the white man. Like, they would have been whiling me up, you heard? I'm with you.

And I know he fucked with you because I know you well and I know your character. So I know he overfucked with you. Yeah, he definitely. You understand what I'm saying? He tormented you to the level of, I know about this.

I open the, Curtin and Roy Jones was waiting for me beyond the curtain. Champion of the world. Ready to knock my block off. Okay? So I know about being alone. When I got shot,

I had 30, 40 guys. I turned the corner. Homeboy waiting for me alone. I'm telling you true story. I'm the king of getting caught turning that corner. Like, that wasn't for you? What? Roy Jones would have been like,

I'm just joking. What happened? What happened when you have? Don't do that. Everybody know the one. No, no, no, not the Roy Jones story. The Roy Jones. What happened when he was waiting for you with Dolom?

Oh, my, he wasn't Dolo? He had, first of all, I had 150 guys. Let's be clear about that. It was, uh, Jaru's, this is what I'm trying to tell you. You could be with 150 open the curtain with you Dolah. These dudes over there, yeah. Yo, they rap. I'm trying to tell you.

We in New York, Jaru album released, New York is the big. So I just performed with you. I spun around. I opened the curtain to walk to the back. Jim Jones is up the, Roy Jones is standing there with the devil in his eye. The niggas don't know. You not understand it.

This is the champ of the world. I had to grab his wrist. Be like, yo, champ, yo. That was smart. I don't even know that was a good touch. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.

I've avoided everything you could think of. I know how to do it. So I grab his wrist, and I'm pretty much begging him not to knock me out. Yo, champ, I know you're going to knock me out. Yo, this, he had the guy. He had some guys with him. He had one of them. Yo, let me tell you, the way most people die is the guy in the back.

Get him, champ. Knock him out, champ. Yo! He's trying to put that battery in his chair, man. I'm here. I'm the last person that's pussy. But I don't want to start arguing with him because I might agitate the chair.

He might let his wrist go. So I'm trying to talk to him. I'm trying to talk to him like, I'm like, yo, champ, yo, hip-hop, this, this, that. So the guy trying to gas him, you know, to hook off on me. It happened to me

one time they caught me over in a second they were trying to kill me it was about 30 guns and shit and one guy with bifocals kept trying to gas

and they go just light him up fuck that I'm pleading for my life yo we are Puerto Rican we can make this happen don't worry about it

my guys are chill they're ready to come I'm over there trying to and it is a dude with bifocles give it to them Now, like, it's always, you can't go with them, with the, with those guys. With the back team.

Long story short is once the crew figured out, and I tell, I would start feeling pussy, I let the champ go, I go, you're a champ. Like, I said, I'm going to be honest with you. No, no, he knows the story, and I'm not, I see your champ. You see those 150 guys, and they over there, chilling, smoking, bloods, rapping the girls. I said, nobody's going to fight you. Those guys right there they're with me.

So he looked, he said it's hip hop. He's not pussy for no one thing. Roy Jones can. I don't think anybody think Roy Jones is not, Roy Jones came to pack me up. The point is, what he's saying, you got to be ready for it. I'm just talking about in general.

I don't know if a nigga ready for that. Roy Jones, though. We're going to have to jump this shit out. Oh, no, you got 150 to try. It's like a hundred men against... But it's just the one second that's going to take. For him to punch you three times in your face.

At one second, I was trying to tell you. Mass. He's going to hit you with. Let me ask you something. You thought I didn't know that? His hand is like a switch. One point you would have me like four.

You thought I didn't know that? You thought I wasn't telling the real to where that shit coming from. Yo. You think a nigga snuffed you for the back. This is on me. You're going to rock your shit. Now, Joe tried to say there's no such thing as dressing your age.

You as being. known as one of the freshest. I don't think there's a thing is just in your age. I think there's a thing is dressing your wage. I just wage appropriate, not age appropriate. Explain that. Hello. Explain that for the people that don't understand the difference

between age and wage. Shit. You don't know the difference between age and wage and you're out the loop, nigga, that's pretty simple. I mean, but for the most part, I dress how I feel, man. When it comes to fashion, it's all about who you are, man. It's all about your personality. makes you feel good, what makes you feel confident,

what makes you feel fly. And that's all I've been doing. I haven't been doing anything too special. I got a different aesthetic than most people and things like that and it kind of connected to the masses and things like that. But I haven't done nothing different than what I've seen outside on the street corners

from the hustlers and bits and pieces from television. And I get my style from so many different array of different things, you know what I mean? From past things that I've seen, to now. I mean, it's all how I feel in the day and things like that. People get caught up in thinking that fashion or having style has to do with a name brand when it really doesn't. It's all about you. You're the name brand and how you put that shit on. This is because it has a name brand. Don't mean that shit is looking good when you got it on. That's what I'd be

trying to tell people with things like that. I mean, like, shit, I buy some shit from Walmart and probably look better than you and you got some shit on from Louis and shit like that. is all about who rocking me. Take a shot at my Louis hoodie. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think it's Louis Down right now. Let me explain to you, man. Well, this is the flyest.

This podcast, I don't know if you've been tuned there, but... He started more shit. We just got a couple of friends, and he's making us losing it. All right, we throw that shit on, daily. That's it. Okay. When can I get you to rewind the time? Will you ever rewind it to me?

No, I'm not that type of person. You just won't? No, I'm just not that type of person. I mean, I put a lot of work in to be here this long to see these grays. God bless my Uncle Clint. He used to have a face full of grades in a bed. He was pretty much the reason why I grew my bed when I was coming out, the bill was always fly. And I watched his bed go from black to gray and it was silver.

And he always kept that thing line up. It was just dope. And I'm like, man, he respected his age. He respected the work he put in. He was like, I ain't with no dying. I'm not doing none of that. And I kind of... Well, I do it effectively and I love it.

No, you look good. Listen to me, you look good. I don't knock nobody for what everybody. Everybody got to do what they got to do. 100%. Everybody wants everybody rewind the time, but they got to do. It's a beautiful business endeavor you got going on. You know what I mean?

Like, I cannot knock that. I don't think everybody can rewind. Everybody, everybody. Yeah, but you see, somebody like this is a perfect transformation. I should have called him on Father's Day and told him, yo, can I please come with the barber rewind. This guy won't rewind the time. That's the guy I got to convince to rewind the time.

I got a, I got, I'm like an old school lumberjack type of dude. That's my type of vibe. You know what I mean? Like, I don't put too much on it. Family. I have a time I don't even have a shape of. You're a hero. You're a hero.

To your family. You provide. You provide passion. I know you got a big family, sisters. moms, and I don't want to speak out of place, but I feel like you like me, you take care of everybody. Yeah, I take care of everybody in my family. Everybody, everybody.

Take care of the bills, everything. You know what I mean? It's my pleasure. It's my pleasure. No, you do every, you just got moms and pops a new spot. I'll be watching. He got his baby girl. Yeah, but I'm talking about this guy, Kerry.

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Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. but this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it

one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad.

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And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I recently saw a clip on Instagram where a young kid was comparing you to Nause and saying that you got big hits. Y'all, he looked to you. He learned how to wear the BB Simon Belt. from you. He got his swag. Like, how crazy is that? Because in my era, you know what I'm saying? Nass is like a god. In my era, too.

So to be compared Let me not, let me that young kid. Let me, let me He was young and we love that he loved Jim Joe. I want you break it down. Let's break this down. I admire Nas. But remember, Nas' first record, the Barbeautie came out when I was in

11th grade. Yes. So Nas was my idol when I was young like you did came to dressing the wordplay the music everything I was a superior Nause fan period I'd never take that away from him but then as I got in the game you got to realize that you rivals would be idols and not to take anything away from that I developed my own style in my own lane that these kids start to gravitate towards two towards two the same way I gravitated towards Nause when I was younger and things like that it's a whole different whole different generation we're talking about 94 93 I was in 11 of course

grade. It's 2025. There's a big gap there. You know what I mean? I want people to understand that so when Shorty's telling people that, yeah, he's 20-some years old. That goes to show they're part of the era that he's in that. I came into light and started going crazy that these kids love me. They don't really know who Naz is. If he's 22, he's born in 03.

Not all of them. Some of them, though. You know what I mean? Like, you know. Yes. It's the epic music. There's some kids that... No, I love that for you. There's some kids that love hip-hop.

But their kid, he's your son. He's your son. He's your son. No, but he knows. My son can't tell you one Nile's record. You heard? Like, let's not, let's keep it a buck here. Yeah, but let's keep it a buck.

You heard, let's keep it a buck because you'll bring it up. There must be some type of misconception or, what's that word when it comes to Jim Jones and what Jim Jones have done in this game a lot of these

rappers We mean them take the darkies off A lot of these rappers have done a tremendous job And I take nothing away from them But they forget I got a hell of a catalog Me Jim Jones myself

Gold records, platinum records Gold record gold albums platinum albums Platinum out No me Jim Jones No diplomats No nobody else Me Jim Jones Check mine track record

Then check everybody else track record Then go to the billboards and check all my entries and check all them niggas entries and shit like that. And I'm not taking nothing away from nobody. But I hear the comparisons and the niggas be trying to act funny when it comes. No, I've been spanking a lot of this shit. I'm talking about the industry.

I've been putting on. So let's not get into that. Where we're getting into numbers and I got to show you the statistics of what I've done. You heard to what other people was done. You heard that you want to go to the billboard entries. Pull up Nile's billboard entries and pull up my billboard entries. Listen, we can't compare it to what I'm trying to. No, I want to go down the line now because now we're going down the line.

No, he's a rapper and I'm a rapper. Listen, you know what? No, no, let's go statistically. It feels great. No, but I want to go statistically because when people be like, they go off the height and forget about the numbers. You heard of my numbers back up? Let me step up to the forefront.

Us and the music of hip-hop culture have a problem. is a thing and there's nothing the world goes off numbers but in hip-hop we don't pay enough homage to those before us the correct way

and sometimes it's even myself so it gets no other genre of music fucking I don't even know who to use yeah but you can understand hip-hop is like basketball jelly roll's never going to say that about

hip-hop as like basketball Jim McGraw. John Moran, get on a call with LeBron. He's going to kill LeBron. So this is what this is about. Any song, any of that shit is murderous death. This is what this is about. There's nothing, Nick, there's never, is me.

Putting me up against anybody, I'm taking me every time. Every time. Okay. In all categories. In every category, I get busy. You started off saying you grew up watching Nause. Of course, I didn't take that away from me. The only situation I'm saying now to you.

right? There is no situation. I always tell people that story. You should worship you. You fucking started. No, no, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing. I did not know who's going to be mad at your because you're really friends with him. He's going to be mad at you. Not me. I don't know him. Oh, he's a beautiful guy.

I understand. I know he's a beautiful guy. But he's going to be mad at you. I'm not not mad at me. I'm not going to bring my name up in that conversation, bro. Like, come on. When he goes all the time, something he saw the internet. You're not going to mention him next to nobody. I'm not going to talk my sick.

You didn't have to ask. do that. I'm a pop minds every time. You know, I just told that people, you're not doing nothing of that. And what did he do? You're hurt? Listen. Niggas don't even know about the audio. Can we talk? Can we talk about

all right? I love this interview although it was very painful he was at a tough time when I seen you. I don't forget where it was at if it was hot 97 or something where you were

just saying, yo, you're a family man, you never made no excuses, even when you went through tough times. You know, you took care of your family. They never knew you was going through tough times. I applaud you with that interview. I feel like that's one of them classic interviews that stands out to me in hip-hop music.

Do you feel like after that interview now, do you feel like that's what you was talking about? Like, I'm going to fight my way back to the top, and I feel good right now about where I'm at in the world because I love that interview. Well, the interview was just a test of the way I was at the time and the things that I knew I had to do in order for me to progress.

You think he bought the temperature back down. I mean, you know, I wouldn't hear that shit. I got you. I switched this shit off and all, you heard? I got different characters I got to play. We talk about the sport and I'm going to go, you heard of me? You heard me talk about it? Let's talk about that interview and the passion you have behind that.

I still got the same passion. as you can see. You heard? I'm a passionate brother. I wear my heart on my sleeve. I cry a lot of shit like that. I'm very emotional. So when people talk about me, I got to stand up for me because nobody else's going to stand up for me as you see. You know? I fight all my battles on my own.

I take losses. I take my wins the same way. You heard? The same smirk, just like this. Yeah, let's get this correct. And the media has stressed this shit so many different ways when they see me get excited. I get excited because I'm a very passionate person. Everybody knows this. And as a man, when you talk about me, I'm always going to pick me first.

But as a fan, she's one of the biggest fans of Nogh, I know one of his albums, word for word, back and forth. Like, that was my era when I was first coming outside and things like that. Nause had wrote the playbook for how we was running the streets and things that. He also dressed the way we was running their streets back then and things like that. And not to take him out away from our Holognakes, but Naz had a hold on us and shit like that when he was younger and things like that. The same way Park had a hold on us.

But from New York City, he came with a whole different flavor and a different canist at the time that was well needed. It switched from what we heard and Big Daddy came to a whole other way of hustlers was talking and rhyming and things like that. And everybody understood that. Like, you know, he would, like I can never take away anything

that he's done in the game. I can't, you know. And that's not it. But as a competitive man, that's all I'm doing is popping my shit and this is what hip hop is about. But for the most part, I got no problem with Nass House to Nilebs,

to all them guys. Who's most influenced you now that you, did you said that from, from growing up artists who's missed, even to this day, Who's most... Name some artists

that you love their music or whatever, yeah, whatever. Raqam. Definitely. Nas. Big Daddy. Karis one. No Kooji?

Cool G. I'm going down the line now. You're going down to live. You're going to make it. But that's good shit. You know what I mean? Like, you wanted a few people that persevered from the Koogee era

To net, like, you dig, like, you dig, like, you gotta always remember that. I don't know if you ever sit down and think about that. Like, yo, we've been watching you for a long time and things like that. L.L. L.L. Boston, Fat Joe. Who else? Got a lot of. It's a lot of. I'm a lot of, I'm a hip-hop.

I'm a hip-hop. I used to watch Ralph McDaniels every day after school. I want to see every bit of videos, everything. I want to see all of that. You heard, like, I knew everything about that. That channel That was still the fat back TV Yeah, you had to fix the back

It was 13, you had to turn to 13 You had to turn to 13 You 31 Yeah, you put it on 13, yeah, yeah, yeah They don't know about that They don't know about that That's Kaliko vision days Tell me some of the things you're doing right now

Some of the things You're turning into, you're a journalist No, I'm not talking about I'm kind of excited, I just I just, I'm kind of excited I just brought a major facility in the Bronx where I'm doing an incredible content space and I'm opening the doors to some incredible content creators

and influences and streamers and gamers and things like that. It's also my office in there. It's a bit of a headquarters. I'll be setting up the drip report, news newsroom, and then things like that. I like that. I ain't seen one in a while. Yeah, I'm about to get that.

I'm about to get that. I'm going to do everything myself now. It's a beautiful thing. So, you know, I'm going to be running out of TV. shows out of there. Got like two podcasts set up in their studio. It's a beautiful thing. You know what I mean? So that's one of the things that I'm

excited that I've been working on. You know, the music is out right now. The album they're doing pretty good. Thank you for everybody that's been supporting the album at the church steps. Shout to all my artists have been supporting. I mean, shout to the dice pick. The movie. The movie's about the job. The movie will be out in the

show. Yo, the movie. I wanted to be in the movie. I just ain't know how to tell you. I ain't going to lie. I missed it. I got. I got. Two days of reshoot. I'm doing it. I want to do it. Make me a priest. Oh, you heard of a pastor.

No, I'm in. You're in that. Yo, I'm in. I want to be in the movie. I believe in your creativity. I believe in your drive. And when I seen you shooting the movie, I didn't know how to tell you,

yo, Jim, give me a little five minutes of fame. I want to be a little pastor. I want to be school bus driver. I'm so bad. Godfather on him. You see Slim Blue over that shit. You know I say Frank Lucas' life in that shit right there. I told him to hold up one second.

That Slim Lou. She was about to blow up in this shit. I distracted him called Blue Up. You know what I'm saying? But this movie, tell us about this movie. I love when you do that. I love everything you're saying right now, how you take matters into your own hands.

I always get upset when I look at my career, Because, you know, I discovered Big Pond, Rebby Ma, DJ Callet, Koolandre. I could tell you who I discovered. The one person I fumbled a bag with was Tony Sunshine. And he was incredible ahead of his time. And I kept waiting for the record label to do it. And now we know how to do it ourselves. And if this was years back, I would have been able to blow him up because we know what we're doing now.

So I love that you saying, you create movies in your studio. space, podcast this. I love that you taking matters into your own hand to push the future forward.

That's a, that's a commendable thing right there, you know what I'm saying? I mean, we got to do something for looking at these junks

making money off these streams and all of these things. And, you know, as businessmen, we've got to learn how to diversify. And this is the direction

that hip-hop and entertainment is going. So we've got to be on top of everything. So I need a piece of that, too. That's how I'm thinking.

That's how I think across the board. Like, I'm not trying to get left in what was going on yesterday. I'm trying to be on what's going on tomorrow. And I know tomorrow never come. That's all you got to be prepared for it. You know what I'm talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about. I feel the same way.

You're talking to, you preach it to the converted. You know what I'm saying? We're blessed, man. How about y'all? So I can say I honestly known both for your since 97. I can say it's just 97. And watching both of you just go crazy in the game from a fan perspective before I actually got to be in it

and shit like that. And then seeing, yo, this make so much money and just going, I remember watching you on MTV, you had like the drop-top belly, black shit, I believe it was. I was just like in awe, I gotta get this bag. I don't know what the fuck is going on. And then Jada, the niggas always come to Harlem.

They'd be with D. They got all type of cars on two-fifth and shit like that. I'm like, oh, man, what the fuck? So how does it feel to know that you lived a life like this for so long? Like, you know what I mean? Like, would you trade it? No, not at all. Would you do it all over again?

Would you change something? I do it all over the same. If I could do it all over, I would just probably listen a little more and fixed a little bit of, you know, situations like crack said. I had accounting situations where, you know, they put. for lean on the accounts and shit fucked up. And I mean, so little shit like that. But it was also learning lessons to never let it happen again.

You know what I mean? And get shit straight as you get older. But yeah, I would have did a little more lesson than listening and paid a little more attention to the business aspect of it at a young age instead of just being worrying about my verses and rhymes and, you know, the wrong shit. But other than that, I would have did everything exactly the same.

What about you? You know, my favorite record right now is not enough. It's not enough. Like, I hear this shit. Like, when I hear it's not enough, I hear it different way. They got guns, but it's not enough. They got dudes. It's not enough.

Like, I really, that shit is cemented in my brain, right? And when you ask me, I say to yourself, it's not enough. and when you talk about finances, it's not enough. Success is not enough. Everything's not enough. I'm not fulfilled. My cup is not full. I don't feel cool, and I'm going to be a man about this,

that I came in the same game with guys, and they got to the billy, and I didn't get to the billy. And just like he said, I fucked up. I was in the club seven days a week, dirty dudes buying 50 bottles every day 50 steaks jimmy's bronze cafe all i wasted a lot of time so when you ask me sure i'm grateful sure i'm thankful to god that i'm in the position that we are and you people might look at it as like yo he's successful it's not enough and so i know you could relate to this because you're saying the same shit i'm saying in a different way it's not enough

Like I want, and I'm not lying guys, so maybe y'all can understand me a little bit more because people get a little mad at me because they think I brag and I think a big shit. That's who I am, right? And so I want to be the fat guy painted in the picture 100 years from now and great-grandchildren to be like,

we're here because of fat Joseph Carter, Giner, 100 years ago, this man made a billion dollars and left it to us in the truss and we're still eating off this guy. I swear to God, that's what I want. And if everybody could do it, they do it. So it ain't attainable. I just realized I could have did it. But I was bullshit in a lot.

So now when you see me, I'm on my business ventures on another level. Just all my shit is like, and life is life. You know, I'm projected to win. I'm telling you I'm projected to win. Everything I'm telling you, I'm projected to go there. Like, I'm on that. Like, I know, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, you know, with a football player, hang on to the back of the jersey,

trying to, I'm on the back of the jersey. I got so many arrows pointed the right way, but it got to happen. I want to know what it feel like when that level of success happens where you could turn around and be like, that's it. I guess we all have a different painting of success. I feel like my mistake was I depended on people to do things that I knew I knew how to do on my own. That's from accounting to engineering to marketing to doing videos to doing movies. I didn't, I learned that 20 years later like, yo, bro, all that shit you let people do and they fail for you and shit like that, you get to do it on your own and been up.

You're hurt. But being up is one thing. Making a billion dollars is another thing. We all would love to make a billion dollars from my perspective. Money doesn't move me like people do. So maybe I might not leave money here for generations to come,

but I will leave a blueprint of what it would take for you to get to a bag. And I do know that my whole family and my bloodline going, no, this nigga was a dog. And if you follow what he did, God bless you, because you're going to go somewhere

that you didn't know you could go. And I think for me, that's worth more than any way. money that I could leave and God bless me. I hope I leave all the money in the world. But I think that blueprint will be strong enough for my son to take with him and go crazy. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free, our heart radio app, search Learn the Hardway, and listen now. We got that, we got,

my son is right outside. We got that where it's safe for me to say we grew up with not much and then we want to make things better for our kids. And historically, when you look at

successful people that come from nothing because we protected our kids so much, they're not hustlers like us or would want them to be hustlers. Do you find that in hip-hop? Do you find that? Or, you know, that's how I look at it. Just with everybody, I mean billionaires.

I mean people who make money. You're absolutely right. But if you have a son, your son, vicariously, you're going to grow into who you are. So if your son knows you to be a hustler, guess what's going to happen for your son? his back is against the wall. And Daddy ain't around no more. Everything he's seen Daddy doing, Daddy teaching me, he gonna start to instill.

He's not gonna sit there to be like a chum. You heard, like, I watched my son closely and just his manner, how he moved and things like that. And the rebel in him that he shows me and shit, like the only shows that he's trying to show me, bro, I'm about to get on my shit. I mean, like the things, some of the things that he do, like these kids ain't no chumps,

just because we, raised them right just because we covered them up, just because we wanted to have a better life of them, doesn't mean that they don't have the hustle in them. They just have better chances and better odds at doing something way different than we ever had a chance to do. I agree. I love that answer, you know.

I ain't going to lie to you. I love that answer because we just want what's best for our kids. We want them to step up to the occasion. And I just think like parenting, by parenting they're easy. Every kid is different. Takes a village, man. They don't give us no instructions for parents. No fucking, that's what I'm trying to give them now.

If you don't know where I've been going this whole interview is I've been going about family and fighting through shit and going through this. This whole infamy, that's what I see in you. I see passion. I see drive. I see relentlessness. I see you working for your family. I see working for your team. You're putting guys on

While you're still trying to get to where you go And that's the thing See, this game's smoking mirrors I don't want nobody to watch what I say Watch what I do Is in the midst of me talking shit I'm still getting up getting to the bag I'm still working and I'm still going to the office

I'm still making sure everything has to be done Under my rule for me to live and and be successful about him You know what I mean? Like never forget that bottom line I'm still doing all the things I need to do In the midst of the circus that you'll see going on You know what I mean like? And they see it

You know what I'm saying? What I'm trying to do? trying to tell you, if I see it, they see it. But that's for anybody. Like a nigger told me one day, even if you don't got a job. That's your phone. You get up, that's not your mind. You get up and go outside and act as if you got a job.

Don't stay in no house. Go outside and hustle. Go outside and find some, go outside and do something, bro. Get your ass up. Man, I come from my father. My father was an immigrant from Cuba. My father was a master baker. He had an argument with his boss.

He was 13 years in a bakery. He had an argument with his boss. He thought he thought he thought he was a baker. couldn't get fired, he got fired. The next day, we went with money he had saved up, say like a G. This was a long time ago, and we went and bought toys in 23rd Street and Broadway, brought it up to where my stores at. That's why I got my first up-in-YC storm 158 at Broadway,

and we're selling toys and snowstorms, hustling little motorcycles and baseball bats and shit for double the money. That's where I learned to be an entrepreneur. When the summer came, my father was the old man you saw with the icy. He made no excuses. That's why I don't make excuses. We just got better situations at getting to where we're getting. And thank God for hip hop.

The music, you see, you still, you still, you still, you still, you still an MC, meaning like you still are on that. I was like that for a very long time. till I said to myself, I said like this, for a long time, I lived off of shows. I'd be like,

yo, I got two, three shows this month, this is my, and then I realized when shit gets slow, I got to diversify and find other ways

to get money. You understand what I'm saying? So I was, so then I had to learn how to make businesses and do shit like that. You just said what you said? Nigger told me,

niggas, stop worrying about how to make money and learn how to make business. Because you make business, that shit's going to make the money for you. You said it. I had to learn that, bro. Because I wasn't fucking making music off of money

off of music for a long time. Like, I didn't have no hits or no way. I had to figure out how to make business to make myself some money and still sustain this lifestyle. Because at the end of the day, it's all about sustainability. You know, this lifestyle, no matter how you

look at it, we're etched in stone of who you are. They don't understand. I'm a play that I'm older than you thing right here. Well, that always It's 30 years of sustainability Your thing is on your own. What I'm trying to tell you is that

We know guys, especially us three And we salute the guys Because I salute a guy I knew who was getting money in 88 And be like, yo, such and such. Like, I'll salute them.

Like, I'll never look at people. My lenses never look at people at their down moment. I always remember when they was on top. or when they inspired me, or they was rocking. But a lot of the guys that I grew up with or I knew had runs, and that's over now. And I'm not mad at them if they got a legit job and they're moving on with life or whatever. I salute them.

But you know how hard it is to be fly for 30 years to walk into the casket fly. You got to walk into the casket fly. Joe, how you walk into the casket? Well, you don't walk into the casket, but. The point you get what I'm saying. No, that's hard. It's like you, yo, don't talk about the old dudes that had it be the same old dudes that rat it. That's a fact.

You know how crazy that line hits me. That's a fact. Every time I hear that song and you say that line, and they ain't even got to be the purpose. Don't even got to be about rad it. It's just about so many guys have runs. And then they start talking about, yo, I used to be this. to be that. Yo, I used to have this.

Cool. I'm not mad that I used to, but don't make it seem like the used to is relevant now. I'm with a good, I'm with a good, I'm what you do with. I'm with a good glory story.

You heard? I'm with that. I love all the old hustler stories, but some old hustlers carry it the wrong way. You know, and no disrespect. I'm looking at YouTube. Some of them got an AARP card

talking that shit. No teeth. Still talking that shit. I'm like, yo, bro, you can't hold a smack 2025. And you ain't carrying it right. So you should be home.

Don't even mention it because what you talk about and how you're looking is not reflecting of what we're doing out here. You know what I mean? And not taking nothing away from you. You can tell your story and be humble about it. But if you're not looking apart to get into the bag, your story means nothing in the eyes of people

that's really doing it and you're trying to prove a point. And we're not talking down to you, but come on. You're hurt? We love you and we big you up. And we probably the only guys that are pull a call over and be like, All the hustlers. Homie, this and this and that.

But then it's like, cool. If you ain't got that run no more, you get yourself a job, you take care of your family, you're going to salute you the same way. Don't miss the niggas I respect the most. Don't talk. I know a bunch of old hustlers

that used to get money that got good jobs right now. When I see them, I still praise them the same way. I praised them when I was younger. I'm the same way. You heard? So we preaching the same thing.

You did? But there's a few of them. They had a consideration. They're out of control. They're missing me. We need to have a conversation. We just, this normally I'm walking out of the way. They're out of control.

And so you're looking at them and you're like, yo, y'all talking about, like, I keep, I don't think I slept good last night. You know what it is? Like, I be feeling like they got to say some type of, yo, but entitlement vicariously through the hustler fake rule that they had. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, like your brother, like your bro.

And they're forever old because what they did back then? Oh, bro. What are you talking about, bro? I don't even know you, bro. You're like for my era. I'm sitting. Here go to Fat Joe with the hoodie. Right?

Once again, we've got a hundred guys outside. You keep a hoodie with you. No, no. Always. Always back in the day, right? I walk in the bathroom. It's a car. Dezu's Spanish dude.

Diesel out of this, like, he looked like he ate a refrigerated. You know the man came home just now. It's got the bathroom, got a long mirror. Right? And the man sees me and he goes, by the way, I've never been extorted in my life. I don't understand it. You got to kill me.

It just doesn't exist in my DNA. The man looks at me and said, 10 years, 10 years. Now, you know, you think you know these people some 10 years. 10 years. I did 10. So I'm looking at the mirror I'm taking the piss. Somebody got the pay.

It's 10 years. I'm like, no, I'm listening. No, it really happened. Like, I'm being honest. So I'm like, he's 10 years. So I'm thinking he thinks I got him in trouble for 10 years. And so I'm trying to hear him out.

10 years, I've been reading the magazines. I've been hearing you talking this shit. Straight up. He told me just like that. We're talking off the minute. hearing you talking this shit, I come home, everybody's saying, don't fuck with fat Joe,

this, this, dad, this. He said, I don't believe it. I had a hundred guys outside of that door. I said, I don't believe it. And you're going to do this the hallway or the nice way. Somebody got to pay for my 10 years. So, of course for me, I'm looking in the mirror and I'm like,

Finally, a nigger tries me. Finally! I'm human. I'm looking at the mirror. I'm like this. Now, it's one thing to disrespect fat Joe. But we in the bathroom and the toilet. Hold up.

What Joe was this? This is it, Joe? Big Joe. They all outside. But listen to what I'm saying. The door opens. The door to somebody taking this shit. And it's my.

brother Serge and Serge is like these guys they can't take you violating fat Joe on no like he can't breathe he's like crawling on this it's in the middle I see him I'm like he's like ha like they're talking to Joe like this he's grabbing the wall like he can't

he can't believe he's hyperventilate he cannot believe this Right? Man, we put the beats on this guy So legend, not a hundred, just us too. He drank piss water and everything. And I gotta salute the man Because I never heard of him again,

I never seen him again, but... Jankal loud. Y'all Puerto Rican niggas was putting beats on niggas Back in the day. From the fever on. up, I've been outside, so what, like, 94, 93, ah, y'all diggers been rubber.

I'm talking about, bro, God bless Big Pum, bro. I've seen Puntish so many niggas, bro. Like, so many, I seen Punt take his chain off in the tunnel and punish your Pwnisher, punish, like, no pun intended, but pun intended, punish niggas, like, yo, bro, big pun was it, yo, bro, y'all. Yo, you're some wild Puerto Ricans, bro. I cannot lie, bro.

not the history of this what? Listen, man, one had this thing called nose to the brain. I swear to God, he had this thing. I'll tell you a quick one, but you know,

I'm like the biggest liar on the internet now. They call me the Cap King, right? I used to play softball. This is an ill story. I used to play softball in my block. So this dude walked by, you know, I'm from the plot,

but I'm from them projects my whole life. I don't care if I'm Fat Joe the rapper. somebody who grew up with me, they might talk funny to me. You'll be like, yo, what the fuck they took? Like, you know, we know each other since kindergarten. You ain't shit, bullshit, pitcher. He's going crazy.

There's a dude I grew up with, right? Fuck you, suck my... You know, we're doing all that. So pun was my number one fan. When I played softball, pun sit in the dugout every game. He would watch every game, right? So pun started talking to him.

stuff stupid this stuff, they arguing. So you know the city park they got the city park they got the gates. I watched punbated him to come close enough and he punched him through the gate.

Bam! And knocked them out. They had to bring the ambulance. Through the gate. I'm talking about the hand didn't go through the gate, but you know what I'm saying? He got close to know. He punched the gate and knocked the gate

and knocked. triangle. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Through the, boom, nose to the brain. This is, nah, it was, yo, he had legendary strength. This is that Boost Mobile Cash app for that ass. The Joe and Jada show with the Capo. Thanks for having our guest today.

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