The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss on BET canceling Hip Hop & Soul Train Awards, will.i.am's Black Thought vs. Jay-Z, Jelly Roll SummerSlam story

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

On today's episode, Fat Joe and Jadakiss react to the news that BET will be indefinitely suspending the Hip Hop and Soul Train Awards. Joe and Jada mourn the loss of two staples in rap culture, discuss Joe and Kevin Hart's turns hosting the awards, and question the reasoning behind the surprise cancellations. After, Joe and Jada give props to Raekwon of Wu-Tang Clan, Freddie Gibbs, and Mobb Deep's Havoc on their new records, celebrate the anniversary of The Lox vs. Dipset Verzuz battle, debate will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas saying that The Roots' Black Thought is "a trillion times better" than Jay-Z, give props to New Jersey hip hop legends like Lauryn Hill, Redman, Naughty By Nature, and more, react to WILD WNBA fans throwing "jointskis" at the Indiana Fever's Sophie Cunningham, and Joe tells a hilarious story from SummerSlam about his run-in with Jelly Roll. 2:30 - BET cancels Hip Hop & Soul Train Awards 12:15 - 4-year anniversary of The Lox vs. Dipset Verzuz 14:30 - Living through 1980s crack epidemic 21:00 - Raekwon & Freddie Gibbs records 29:30 - The 3 birthplaces of hip hop 32:30 - will.i.am says Black Thought "a trillion times better" than Jay-Z 40:00 - RIP Howie Tee 43:00 - Lauryn Hill, Redman & New Jersey hip hop 50:00 - Gilbert Arenas & the Morris twins' legal issues 58:45 - Fat Joe's Jelly Roll SummerSlam story 1:06:30 - WNBA fans are WILD 1:11:30 - "Yesterday's price is not today's price!" 1:14:15 - Answering fan questions [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.]See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He turns around this. I'm sorry, Joe. I can't fight no more. I can't make it. I tried Joe. It's right next to me. He said they definitely not going to believe you. Yo, yeah, man.

You know what it is, Joe and Jada, man. Hip-hop shit for the culture. I was scrolling yesterday. I seen BET's canceling the BET Hip Hop Awards and the Soul Train Awards. Now, we all know our people. The BT, the Hip Hop Awards, so they started switching. I think they let you host to the show. Three years, three years.

Kevin Hart due the last one. So they put a little bit of fluidity back into it, but it was a time when it got like the ratchet awards and nobody was really going and this and that. Then I guess with the passing of Don Cornelius, whoever was in charge of the Soul Train, I guess, I don't know, slip. It didn't have the same fluidity as had other years,

you know, prior to before he passed. So now they're just canceling it. That's like a loss for the culture, what'd you say? You want me to say? You just explain what it would. Do you want you to say? I just gave you the thing. I got a different approach, man.

And my approach is factual. BET, this is a form of gentrification what's going on right now. So I don't know if y'all really want to ask me about this shit right here, right? So BET came up as a community station for black people, right? the urban culture. And our man, what is Bob Johnson,

took the check. He sold it first black billionaire, whatever the case may be. He sold it. He sold it to Viacom and Paramount. MTV and them.

VH1 in them. Little by little over the years, quietly, they've been firing a lot of people behind the scenes in BET and everybody who had,

As some say, they've been firing them and this and this and that. And I know, because I've been working on the BET Hip Hop Awards for three years, shit was like the budget, not for me, but the budget just kept getting chopped and chopped and chopped. And last year, I debuted my single with Calais in the VMAs, and Katie Perry still flying through the air in the VMAs. They still blowing out of the cannons. they still flying in the air. They still got all the tricks.

They still got the budgets. They got the shit. You know. And so I think in the entertainment world, I don't think I know this was like a form of gentrification. They kept underfunding them,

underfunding them, underfunding them. And you ain't got no money to be creative. That's why you was watching the Ratchet Awards and all that. They ain't had no bread. Last year, we shot the last joint,

and I am. They have bread for what they won have bread for. I'm so honored for the opportunity, Connie Orlando and the whole crew that let me host. That was one of the biggest things I ever wanted it doing in my life. You know, I look up, if I never told you, I look up to a Steve Harvey. So Steve Harvey's my guy at media that I want to be like. And so, you know, that made me feel like I was Steve Harvey

a hip-hop and trying to keep it consistent. But I saw what they did to them. They just stopped the budgets. They started. of the rest, uh, firing. I almost said arrested. They started firing a bunch of, um, people who brought a lot to the table. And now we're left with, guess what? This ain't working.

But nothing without no money, no promotions, no staff, no, nothing works. It just don't work. You might as well have called it the independent awards. And so no soul train. Mm. No BET Awards. Uh, but guess what?

We got the VMAs. Those ain't for us. Well, you got, you know, I'm just, I'm being honest with you. I love the VMAs too. I got the VMA but the point is, that's your answer in the nutshell. That's what happened. So they left us with one award, sure.

That ain't really ours anyway. Yeah, but they got the, I think the main BETT awards. No, the BETT regular awards is still there. Yeah. That's still a little topsy-turvy. Oh, no, that's a little. that's the second away. The writing's on the war.

You see everything else falling down as a domino. That's the next one. One little fumble by Kevin Hart. One little joke. Too many. That's shit over two.

And so that's what it is. You know, sometimes, you know, and I got a lot of friends at VMAs and MTV and I love you guys. But, you know, sometimes the goal is to buy your project to suppress you. you know what I'm saying

so the goal is yo some big company might come and be like yo we want to buy rewind a 10th throw us the billy and then like shut it down like yo this shit got to go we got to keep this thing moving who knows that's just

I take on Joe and Jada yeah save hip hop save the awards let's go save your money yeah yeah what up y'all it's your boy Joe crack It's your boy Jada.

You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Another episode of greatness, ladies and gentlemen. Brought to you by the culture, preferably the streets. And we're the realest in the game. Yo, check this shit. Yeah, Jada. Yo, what's you been out to, Jada? Crazy weekend.

Once again, shout out the cash money. Shout out to Jovee. Jovey shouted us out. Jewelie been ripping the pain off the fucking buildings. So you know, they got locked. We're on the Cash Money Tour. Yeah, we did Chicago, and then we did the Detroit show. Shout out to Detroit.

They were super fucking live. The crowd was crazy. After that, I had something in Carabana in Toronto, drove up there. My driver in the Sprint, my man, Nick, over there. From Detroit, it's right there. He forgets a knife in the Sprinter. Not on that shit. Now he's, he's thinking he, he's, he's, he's thinking,

in the Bronx where you get, yo, my fault, man, I just forgot this. They start saying weapons. It turned into weapons, all of that. They fucking sacked us. Everything out of the bags, all of that. Come sit down, now, they're like empty your pockets. I got over 10,000 on me. You didn't declare it.

Now they take my bread track. We sit in there. They left me with 37 cents. I had one of my men's that super squeaky clean with me. Shout out to my niggins. He started calling lawyers and calling the promoters and all that. Well, I know they came out, gave me all the bread back to passports. It was God.

It was like Caled in the jacuzzi. God is the greatest. God is the greatest. God is the greatest. He brought me everything back and said, you can go. It was like, huh? One of the toughest places to get into anywhere on the earth is Canada. Canada.

facts. I tell anybody's mother, Canada, they don't play. You know how many times we was on tour and we went in the tour bus and guys had to stay in like Buffalo. Oh, Buffalo. Yeah, you gotta get a gabber. You can't go in there. Canada is serious. I went I had a show in California, Ventura, California. Beautiful

crowd. It was amazing out there. And then I flew back to come out with my African brother, Javido. Fire. Over there and he had that shit on tilt in the Barclays. Right? So he was like,

Yo, Joe, could you come out? So I rushed back to do that with him, caught a nice body in it. You know, the Barclays, they always let you catch a body in there, right? Especially when there's one of them kind of artists and they need you to come for some light or d'urbs for him and that shit turned to the main inch.

That shit goes crazy. Cruz or his. They was like, I needed this shit. Oh, no. Crazy. So the crowd, shout out the crowd. You know, every now and then you need one of those reminders. Would they be like, y'all?

Yeah, I'm still that name. Shout out to that Kiss Cafe. Bro, I've been drinking that Kipfee got me fucking wired. You know what I mean? Kiss Cafe Coffee.com, man, order up. Get your mugs. It's your whole beans. Ground.

Your kiss cups, aka A.K.A. The pods. You also got to rewind the time. You know what I'm saying? Waiting for my deal, man. You know they went crazy. Everybody a deal. Yo, Jada, you ain't off in me a deal.

Yo, Jada, you're already in the deal, man. That's the problem. We can't give you everything. You got everything. I got to rewind. I got to rewind. Yo, rewind it. CVS, stop a shot.

Whatever it's available. What a beautiful thing, man. I keep telling these guys. I go to every show at the end of the show. I'd be like, yo, if you got gray hair, Your wife, she wants to keep you off the market. YB 54, when you could be 43, YB 42, when you could be 31. I mean, they love that shit.

That talk, he's legend. Yeah, let me tell you something. I think it's four years since the Lox dip set. Three. Three years? Three or four? Five? Five?

No. No. No, no. It's four three. Hell no. If it's five, I need my AARP card. Four or three. It's four, three.

I'm getting up there. I don't know who hate. Do you hate getting old? It hasn't hit you yet, right? I hate getting old. Yeah, I hate it too. I don't like it. You know what's worse than getting old?

What? Not getting old. Oh, yes. Four years. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Like, I really don't like my surroundings, man. I don't, I'm looking at everybody.

You know, I can tell I'm getting old because, you know, I'm a big news head. So I watch eyewitness news all the time I'm going to see that. That makes you sad. You can't watch that. No, no. I watch it.

Right? I digest that every, for the beginning of time. But when the announcers start looking mad old, the people I've been watching for 20 years and all that, they just start looking mad old. That means we getting old, right? Because we was watching them when they was young and we was young.

All of a sudden, they look in prehistoric. It's shit out of control. No, I'm telling you, I mean, you ever see somebody dead? alive. Stuck in the face. Nah, stuck in the face different. No, no. Like when you ever seen somebody

who's like, oh shit. Is she dead or not? Like, I've been in airports wherever when you look at them and you be like, damn it, he looked dead. But he alive. They're about to go.

I guess that's how you could tell they about the go, right? Because it's like, you never seen that. He's alive. Everybody's seen that. I seen dead. people like the same alive that's alive yeah then you look at them and you're like oh he's about to go

or she about the go his color ain't right it's a couple rappers that look dead that's a lot couple rappers oh yeah your algorithm is off you no no no you ain't look at nothing niggis yo let me tell you something we got a lot of stuff to talk about but I want to ask you because I was thinking about it the other day crack in the eighties that's a little kid in the 80s, really. But you seen what it did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Disrupted households.

It was everywhere. You couldn't escape. It was in your family. It was outside your crib. It was on the way to school. It was in the school. It was the teachers was on. Friends, family, family members.

It was crazy. It was everywhere. It was an epidemic for real. I believe. And by the way, I never seen snowfall. OJ. crack in the 80s. What's the time of you on?

Bro, we have a certain age that we could explain to the youth what it was like. So they don't fall for the okey-doke now. It's opioids now, crack. It's opioids, but it's still the same effect. Listen to what I'm saying. Because crack in the 80s

it first caught the fly guys in the room. They start smoking woolers in the club. Free base with the weed. Boom. The fly guy. Like, in other words, being you, Yeah, it used to be a cool thing to do back in, yeah. If it came out now.

We ain't don't know. I'm just sure. Listen. What I did you talk about? I don't get when he came out. This is why I'm trying to say. I ain't hit that man, Mae. You wait me.

You know, shout out to my nigga, Crossy Feast off. I ain't hit that man made, crack. Let me explain something to you. The way they did it to the hood was it attacked the fly guys first. The hustlers, the stick up kids, guys robin banks, this, that. It was fly. Crack was flying. You spent a little $50 and you thought, imagine.

This is where our age difference. I don't, I miss when it was fly. This is why. I didn't, I wasn't there for when it was cracked with fly. I bring it up. All right, I'm missing it. I'm a student in this. Why I bring it up, I went on vacation with Norrie.

And Norrie cracked open some weed. There was $100 a joint. some crazy shit. To me that's crazy. If I don't smoke, for a guy like me, a virgin in weed, that's crazy.

One joint $100, that's like the Japanese whiskey. They got $300 to shop. So my point is, at that time, all the guys that had money was fly. They had records like bass, rah,

do me doma doom, baby. The biggest rappers, at the time we're singing about the shit so they thought they was fly but they didn't know that they was getting hit with that addiction that's so unbelievable

right so crack actually was so addictive it was almost like AI man that we can't even believe AI when you see AI and they be on Instagram these girls ain't even girls

they AI they're selling you drugs pharmacy everything on Instagram and all social media AI. That's how crack's addiction was. They've never seen it before. So you can't even really blame the first guys and girls

who got hooked on crack. Now, if you're talking about your era 10 years later, you smoke crack, you know it fucked everybody up. They selling their TVs. You played yourself. That's what I saw. TVs for sale. Like a wait.

I saw that too. I see, I seen, yo, I had a woman in my building that I promise you, If I do the knowledge, she was at least, if she wasn't a wife, she was the side chick to an NBA player. For sure, she was that bad in my building. She had three kids.

Her kids were beautiful. It's a respectable woman. And she turned into a crackhead. And everybody who dreamed about smashing, wound up smashing for a couple of cracks. It was that horrible. You know, and so much of. an addiction. You know,

I don't use drugs. Never have used drugs in any way, right? Dieter Pepsi's enough. Diya Pepsi, yo, that's my choice of drug. You know how many of my friends I see gamble and they be like they bet that the guy scores 14?

May is here. He bet 10,000 the guys score 14. They took him out the game with 12. That's a drug. Yeah. Huh? Talk to me. That's a drug. Some people's crack. Some people smoke sniff coke. Some people got the

thusi-thusi-B, the pink-cote, the epioids, the distus. I drink diet Pepsi. That's the least drug of choice, right? But my point is, something that bugs me out, even a guy like me, who I don't see me

being in any type of loop. Who knows of me ever becoming drug addicted, right? But ain't it scary if you think about this, a normal human out there, that there's something out there that it's so addictive that it could fuck your whole world up, your whole life up. You just got to try it.

You know, Scott Storch, 90 million. And one year he spent $90 million. And he told me when he tried that for the first time, Coke, not crap. And it was like, it's something. something so addictive in this world that if it hits you, you're done. That's not scared. You ever thought about that?

No. I'm fucking crazy, because I'm the only motherfucker to think about some shit like this. No, I'm scared. I'm telling you, I'm scared. When you see Fat Joe never high and all that, I might like this shit. That's why I don't do it.

You guys don't do it because I know people who have tried it one time in their life and it fucked their whole life up. Same shit with one of them guys. What's Alec Baldwin's brother? What's my man? Stephen Baldwin said Madonna gave the shit to him. He was having a menage.

Same thing with Scott Storch. They was having a menage and the girl said, yeah, let's do it. And do the shit. And Stephen Baldwin set the same shit. He took one sniffing was like, you know, the addiction ain't for everybody. It hit different people different ways.

Fuck this whole life up. Some mean albums out there. Oh, you go on album mode? Okay. I talk about life. Yeah. Ray Kwan's album, Fight. Kwan is a chef.

Freddie Gibbs album with albumers. Shit is crack. Man, that's crazy. Freddie Gibbs' Alchemist's album is really, really crazy. Ray Kwan, I love what Naz is doing, throwing out those clad. You heard that new ghost face on? Ghost face single, crazy. He dumbed out.

my favorite Wu-Tang member. Who's your favorite Wutang member? You don't want to answer, huh? You gotta have a favorite. All of them. You ain't got a favorite? All of them. My favorite Wutang member is Ray Kwan is Chef.

I just love his delivery. I love everything he's staying for the shit. He was talking about it. He was like the drug dealer Wutang member. You know what I'm saying? And me, you know, I always been in that street. that paraphernalia, you know what I'm saying? So I could always relate to Ray more than everybody.

And everybody else is Finole. Some people say, expect the debt. Some people say you guard. Some people say, all of them, brother. So we're going to say that Freddie Giz's Alchemist's album is Phenon. Alchemist hit me up and said, thank us for bigging them up when we all picked them

as one of our top beats that we ever rap to. That's my brother, I know. That's my brother, I know. Yeah, let me tell you, sir. Yeah, yeah, the new Mon-Bie album was finished, too. Shout out the hat. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news.

What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas, we invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.

But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was...

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

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This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.

The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. You ever notice the new TVs, the Samsung's and shit like that that they force you to watch the whack TV? It ain't real TV, right?

And it's shit always in like a cooking channel or some shit. This shit, you got to fight the TV to watch real TV now. It comes on on that bullshit on the hub. The bullshit fucking channel, man. Why? Is that smart? Like, are they forcing people to watch Wack TV? The other day I get in the hotel.

I'm like, it's the Waldorf Astoria in fucking L.A. I'm trying to watch CNN. I can't watch it because they got the bullshit channels on. The Samsung bullshit. I'm like, not the Waldorf. With this bullshit over here, like the bullshit channel. Yo, listen, the bottom line is, no one should trust no one.

Right? How do you know if you, you can't trust a new, will you trust a new person? I don't need no new people in my life at this point of it. I agree, but can you trust a new, like everybody around me,

been with me 30 years. Okay. Shit like that. Because if you look at regular people, right, just regular people, they don't trust. So if you ever notice, you'll be on the plane

because you're on the plane, I can land the fucking plane. pretty much. I'm so scared of the fucking plane that I know everything. The short land and street. I know everything about the plane. I'm so terrified.

I've studied everything. Do you notice that when the pilot comes out to use the bathroom, the airlines don't even trust the pilot to be alone in the plane. They get the fucking stewardess to go in there, put the car, but go in there. Somebody goes in there.

While he used the bathroom, the lady or the guy goes inside to sit with the other pilot because they scared this guy might play suicide and kill everybody. The fucking government, the plane people, they don't trust nobody. You never noticed that, right? They don't trust that somebody going to go in there

with a fucking weapon and take the plane. No, I'm talking about they don't even want the pilot alone. There was a pilot that just, there was an airplane that just crashed. India, 767. That's the biggest plane in the world, most safest. the pilot, the last thing he said was, yo, why you cut off the fuel? He asked the other pilot, yo, why you cut off the fuel?

That's the only way that plane's going to crash. So his man want to commit suicide with three, four hundred people, that's the point is we can't trust nobody. So one of them jeopardies, they put, what's the adjutant, Steguc Avenue, 15, 15, your normal person, your normal moms, your normal school teacher or somebody like that, They wouldn't really technically know that was the birthplace of hip hop.

So that's justified, you know what I'm saying? But it's up to us to explain that, right? There's one of the biggest birthplace of hip-hop who worked through the parties there. And it became legendary. But, you know, hip-hop started in three different areas. So it started there. It started in Bronx River. Then it started in my hood, too.

So at three, at three, y'all, I'm not. Yo, kiss, what do you want me to say to you? You want me to tell you, I mean, Shy Rock, the first female MC is from my block. Little Rodney C. Ruby D., the first Latino emcees from my block. Melly Mell's from my block. Lovebuck Stossi's from my block.

Oh, Grandmaster Flash used to play 23 Park. Like, I'm from the Mecca, the Soyuz. There's no, they, so, you know, whenever anybody tries to start some hip-hop shit, They just can't. I'm from there. I'm sorry for you. Is it Sedgwick or is it your block?

No, no, no. It started in three different places. Cedric is where Cool Herk is from, and we acknowledge that as a birthplace of hip-hop, but it started three different, it's bandborder, his flash, and it's Cool Herk.

Those are the three founding fathers of hip-hop. And it started out in the three areas in the Bronx. I happen to be from one of the areas where the, the biggest guys ever did it, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. You know, one day I'm watching Melly Mel playing basketball across the street from my house, and the next day he's doing Chaka Khan,

Shaka Khan at the Grammys beat. You know, I seen them when they all got, the whole Furious Five got their first, they got their first white 190 Benzes, and they pulled up to my block back to back on them shit's like this, and I'm watching it as a little kid, Like, you know, I'm really from that. That's not even what you made me go there

because you put the cat face. It's not cat. There's nothing I could do. I'm sorry. I was born there, the Mecca. But 15 and 15, Sedgwick. That's Melly Mellie Mell saying Shuckercocon. Yeah, Shucka Khan.

I want to get you Shucka Khan. I want to you need a succor car. That's Melly Meli, Mel. Huh? 1520, Sedgwick Avenue? Okay, I'm five paces off. but the thing is that's across the street

from River Park Towers is that's one way in one way out they throw them fucking refrigerators at you off the roof of them River Park Towers

that shit be lucky to go in and come out that's not don't go see some girl at River Park Towers you ain't coming out that's a different

type of thing but yo Jada man Will I am says that Blackthor is a truly This is hip-hop. We got to discuss this, Jada.

He's one trillion times better than Jay-Z. That's how he feels. Where do you want me to elaborate on how that man feels? So that's it. You just say that's how he feels, that's that. Yeah, I came from where you mind your business. I'm saying? I was talking mind my business.

Me personally, I let the facts be the facts, and I let the history determine the self. You had your shot to make hits to be the biggest in the game.

She was a model for a year and a half. I had my shot. We all had our shot at who's the best rapper or who's the biggest rap in the game. The roots

played and are still playing an integral part of hip hop. Right? They all. also crossed up. They're like J.B. Smooth.

You know, they hooked up with the Jewish white guy and they got the lick. They're in. Like, they could do bar mitzvils and all the white joints. All I'm going to tell you is, you never going to hear a rapist say fucking co-plays a million times better than Black IP.

They put that out there. And that's the reason the hip-hop is hanging on a string is they fucking making everybody go against each other. for no reason, just for small talk and clicks and get the most traffic to your thing. If that's how he feels, fuck it, that's how he feels. But there's no way on Google.

You can Google chat, GBT, whatever, whoever the fuck you want, you're not going to find Ove or Black Thought. Nowhere's saying, the backstreet boys is a trillion times better than NSYNC. leave our fucking culture alone that's my opinion too because you're starting off some shit

and then he's going to go be in a state of the heart hills so we're making cars and just don't do that what's called for them if you feel like that that's fine but we need no more nuclear bombs set off in hip-hop unless it's called for

a billion this guy's a rich tech he makes cars you're going to go on the internet view and just saying, I mean, that's his thought's cool, but we don't need to. Think of it. Find me somewhere where a prolific rabbit went somewhere and said, this guy's better than where I am a trillion time. Well, if I say it, right? If you say it, you can't say it yourself anyway. Because even the time, L.O. Kujay's invented goat, it's one of the goats.

But when he said I'm better than everybody, or he said some statement like, I'm the greatest, If somebody says it about themselves is different than somebody, for one, that ain't, the type of music you do ain't even our type of music to just go up there and just put two people against you. He almost lined up black thought, huh? Like, if you think about it. You lined up everything

because what the fuck dude, I got to do with any. Even if that's his thoughts. Save it to your fucking soul. I'm going to move on from there because he might have stopped the bomb shell. A nuclear, whatever the case may be. Yeah, thank you for... The more we put lighter fluid on it, the more it goes.

Let that shit go down. They both great. There's a difference between fucking up and being fucked up. Definitely. You know, I sit with my sisters. I sat there that other day, had dinner with... I was just to marry Jay... MJ.

And all of them. and, you know, I don't think I bother them when I was just hungry. So I was like, yo, where ya at? They were like, yo, yeah, I'm pulling up. I gotta eat some shit, right? But when I had these conversations

with the women, you know, beautiful conversations, but she said, there's a difference between fucking up and being fucked up. You could fuck up. Yeah. That don't mean you fucked up. Which one you'd rather be?

Man, let's... You'd rather fuck up or you'd rather be fucked up? It depends. or what level of... I'd rather fuck up. There's a chance to fix that and you learn from your lesson. Being fucked up is no good.

No way. You know, when we in the world of, is it just me or we in a weird time in life? Right? Like, I feel like everybody's doing bad financially. We've seen the jobs report the other day was like

14,000 jobs in a month. You know, if Biden did less than a half a million a month, they was like, it's the end of earth. motherfucker got 7,000 a month, 14, 17. I mean, if the numbers are correct, people doing fucked up out here. I got my mom's dad of condo today.

I saw that, man. That was beautiful, man. You know, that was the best thing I ever did for my mother and father. I bought them a house, and I remember when I went through the tax thing and I realized that my accountant wasn't paying mortgages.

When I first heard it, I was more worried about my mother and father's house than I was even mine. I was like, yo, they could come take my mother's house, my father's house. So it must be a beautiful feeling, purchase something for mom and dad. It's beautiful, man. It's a blessing, you know what I mean? That we can't take for grin.

It's something you, as a little kid, that's something you wish you could always do. You know, I love that. You know, Denzel Washington, I can't quote him, but he was saying, sometimes families don't understand. Your own family don't understand when you try. trying to win and overcome a generational curse. You know what I'm saying? And your own family won't understand

that you're trying to get to the promised land. You know, financially, generationally, because I think that's the game we plan. We're trying to lay it down. So whoever comes behind us has got a better plan for you. They could afford college. They can afford whatever they want. They ain't got living the projects no more.

and me growing up in the project is such a big family. Like, I can't do something for everybody. I actually think I have done something for everybody in my family different times. But there's a cousin of mine that's probably a third cousin that lives in the projects in the Lower East Side

that I barely even know. I might know their moms that people are telling them, yo, you fat Joe's cousin. You're supposed to be in the big house. They do it to our friends. They'll do it to your friends. Your friends' wives or girlfriends are telling them,

yo, why you ain't got that? Some boys got it. That's your man. You know him. Stay away from them. And that's the difference of how far does that go to survivors' guilt or the success? Rest in peace, the hit man, Howie T. Did you know? I'm never man Howie T without.

always respected his contributions to hip-hop. Howie Tito. I've always been jealous of people with their own theme song. So I'm telling you, Tommy Motola just asked me to do his documentary. And they were asking me, yo, what about it? And I was like, yo, Tommy Matola lives on the road. Like, imagine they made a hit record about you that they're playing. all over the world of Howie T.

When I tell you, that shit was wavy, when he had the Howie Tito, whoa, Howie Tito, that shit was crazy. Some of the groups, James, special ad, Chabra.

He did Salt and Pepper. It's probably his biggest group. But color me bad. That was like the white. How are herbie? Herbie is salt pepper. That was Herbie, Salt and Peppers. Yeah.

Howie T did. Sweet tea. He did sweet tea too. He did sweet tea too, right? But Howie T, living legend, he should get all the flowers he deserves. Definitely. Rest and peace and prayers and condoluses to his family. You know, I always get surprised when somebody passes away in hip hop that I never met.

Yeah, me too, because you met everybody. I bet everybody. I feel weird when I ain't meet him You know who else, man, everybody Buster Rides Yeah, shout out the Buster, you got a star on the Walk of Fame, man. He deserved that.

I seen the picture with him and LL. That was fine. Beyond that. They won in the last two. I mean, L.L. is the first with our era that's left. And Buster. We did something.

Then you were a couple of them right behind them. We can't have covered me on there. Am I coming with the Euro or I'm coming with it? Yo, this motherfucker. You got a new, your shit ain't the Euro, though, because it's the first. It's the fluidity. I got to get a new name for your step. Yeah.

No, no, I like that one. But, you know, Buster Mom's leaders in a new school, shout out to Long Island, they claim them too. I know he says he's from Brooklyn. He grew up in Brooklyn went to school with Biggie and, um, Jay Z but Long Island claims him and Keith Mary

I missed a big one Keith Mary and the Long Island's kid Keith Mary's not just an incredible rapper he's one of my brothers so I'm sorry if I messed up and I missed out with

Keith Mary people were saying them have doing a lot of people you know it's just was amazing their contribution let's talk about Jersey

now Some unsung heroes. We salute the legends of Jersey. Y'all got a style. I think we got to Jersey. A salute jersey, man. Red Man, Queen Latifah, Norty by Nature, Lord's of the Underground.

Go one by one. Artifacts. Wycliffe. Pross. Sugar Hill. Fettie Watt. Joe Buttons. Ransom.

Chill Rob G. Rod Digger. Outsiders. Outiders. Hurricane G. Apache Wow Redhead Kingpin

Redhead Kingpin Come on man I leave the niggas out man don't leave niggas out Club Zanzibar Lord's an underground Poor Righteous teachers Payton this

Shack Yes Yeah Shack Poor righteous T let's go The whole jersey Salute In the Norte by nature Tretch

Tretches is the I said, Tre. You said, Trent. Yeah, but let's try to break it down, though. You just want to run through the list like that. Let's go. I think Red Man. I follow you in Lee.

I think Red Man is the most underrated MC ever lived in the hip-hop game. Hell no. I think it's not about Red Man. What he do? Crazy. Yeah, but they don't know about Red Man the way they know about Red Man. But maybe me know about the film. No, no.

I totally disagree. So you think a random commercialized. They know about Red Man. They know about Red Man. They know about Red Man. You know about hip hop You fucking know about Redmond. And they don't give him his props.

It's impossible. Redmond was so good. Who is they? I'm talking about they. I don't know who they is. They don't want us to win. They don't want us. They.

Hypothetically speaking. Kidding me, Reggie's that negative, though. I agree. So I'm just trying to say. The flip stages of globally. I think it's one of the greatest emcees of all time. It's just, my point is His name should be up there

When everybody's top 10, top 5, whatever they want to do, He's that good. Right? Queen Latifah iconic, legendary. There's nothing we could do about that. Nothing.

Just put her up there on Just put on a lot of rush mores Of all types of different umbrellas of rush mores. Nordy by nature. they had the game in the frenzy oh hey Vinny KG

KG went on to produce a lot of Arnhem, Giannae Charnet he had all of the dudes rocking Next

Next Next is one of my favorite groups Right shout out the RL REL The ORL The Outsiders I put them into the equation

because they're the first people I ever seen bring Eminem out. Fado Hussein, rest in peace. That was crazy to be, right? One day we got an interview, we moved to our bell on here from the outsiders

and explain how did the two-bott were they cousins or something? Because he's... The outlaws. The outlaws. Fado Hussein. That was my man. What I'm saying is

when they beefing the East Coast, West Coast, It's crazy that the guys who's on all the ill records with pockets from Jersey. How did that happen? Did they meet them in L.A.? How did that go down? Like, this is the East Coast, West Coast beef. And these guys was from right here under the nose of New York, Jersey.

And so who else we got on that list for Jersey? What right? This teacher was incredible. Wild Rob G. Fettie Watt. Fettie Watt. Shuggerh, Ging. Wadcliffe, Lauren, Hill,

greatest female of all time. I don't care what you say. You know, sometimes people get mad because you know, they, certain artists are put in a level of it ain't even artists.

Like people say, who's your top five? You bring up Lauren, they might be like, yo, she don't even count. But she does. count, right? I made a mistake she didn't count. I wouldn't she count.

She's the greatest of all time. Some people say she don't count. They got to get out of it. She counts. But they think she's the cheat code. She's the AI. So what I'm saying is the other day, I take the top five

DJs, top five DJs, and Cali, I threw them in that I threw him in that category I was like, yo, Call are too big to even call him a DJ. And he pissed kick and pre-off with that.

Why? Because he wanted to big up Cal, I don't even know what he's pissed off about. I put him first on the list. I'm going to stop bigging niggas up. No, it's like two or three guys that I bigged up and they wound up dissing me.

And I'm like sitting here like, yo, like, I'm bigging you up. But Callet definitely would have been on my, top five DJ list. You know, but when I look at Callet, I always look at him as his catalog. It's so big.

Dude. Man, DJ Callet. His catalog is so big. I feel like it's so much bigger than just DJing. When you're a DJ and you got a DJ? Shout out the DJ nasty from Orlando. When Callet does a show, he got a DJ. You don't DJ.

He has a DJ. Yeah, when you were a DJ, DJ with a DJ? Hello. Let's go DJ. Let's go DJ. But there's certain people on that list. Your dog house got a dog house.

Chill Rob G. That's one of the most class is getting. It's getting kind of hectic. SP put me on a chill Rob G. In high school, Sp. Sp.

He used to love chill Robbjee. He put me on. He was nice. He was nice. He was dope. And he had a big commercial. you hit. I got the power.

It was two. It was chill Rob G. Who else? They had two versions. How did they have it? Imagine you did, why J did one of this and to that. And somebody else got the same song,

same beat. How did that happen? It was two I got the powers. At the same time, video music by I played both of them. How did that happen? One chill Rob G and one of it. Who's the other thing was snap? C&C music factor.

It was snap. And the chill-ri-Rob Jee's both hits at the same fucking time, same beat, same song, I got the power. How did they pull that shit off? That must have been before clearing samples, huh? Sports talk, man, Gilbert Arena's got arrested. What the fuck is going on? Slick it right here, though? Yo!

What the fuck is going on with these ballplayers? What's my man, Bridges? He's still in the fucking NBA, the two twins. Morris. What? Morris. He got locked up to him. That was a mistake.

Huh? I think Gil's shit wasn't as big as they, you know, I don't think it was. He got locked up by the feds. But he also got out. And I think twin, I think twin, that was a mistake too. Like, I think that was a mistake. He got the money. It don't make sense for you, right?

Yeah, he got them. So that was my immediate reaction of like... Things like that happened in the casino. And then because you're black, they make it bigger. Let me explain, son of you. I hate to burst your bubble. I'm going to burn my bubble. I don't owe nobody, none.

Yeah. I hate the burst your bubble. God willing, I'm wrong. But I've seen this play out. He's illegal gambling spots and somebody who's famous is involved in all that. they usually get a year and a day. They could do a year and a day.

Okay. I'm just talking to tell you that. That ain't going to. When I see them stories, I know how that shit play out. And if they came and got you, you know, nine out of 99 out of 100 times.

When them alphabet letters come to that front door, your best choice is saying, okay, let's see what's the least time we're going to get. Unfortunately, it's like that. Now if you want to be Robin Hood and think you can take them on and beat them

and you're lucky enough or whatever but these are terrible I just don't wish that for them. I wish it never happened. Whatever it is, I hope it's a mistake like you say. Because it's crazy.

It's not the feds with twin and Gil said he snitching. You said he snitching? There's jokes, man. You'd be all right. You're rich. How are you feeling about Jerry Jones don't want to pay Michael Parsons, man.

What you think, Rich, Mr. Dallas Cowboy? I ain't feel about that. It's not as straight. He's down there on the staff of Dallas. Definitely. They paid your man with the real stinky leg. What's your man? That press card.

That got one of them. What? His shit is like hybrid glazing. Like, yeah. This shit. I put up a picture one time. I was about to. get canceled.

That boy got the leg. What? That boy broke his leg one time. His shit was like Hubbercraft and B. Like out of the trip. Maybe he looked like a perfect leg. His shit.

Perfect leg. His shit. I posted it. When I tell you the deaf threats I got like, yo, you know, this shit was like. So we're part of the year? He's a fraud.

Dak Prescott is a fraud. And he's only there to sell candles. Candles? Huh? Campbell's, no, I'm saying candles and fragrances. Your man is Lollipop records.

He's not going to win no chip. I guess we ain't getting anybody. We ain't getting to feel best. The sad part, you know, he's a handsome guy. They market him. They don't want to win games. Nah. Not with him.

I don't see that. And then Parsons, who's worth the money, they're giving them a hard time. You know, what you got to understand is this. This is almost like the government. Right? There's people, this government does some things.

Although we're proud Americans and we vote and pack taxpayers and all that, we don't agree with, but we can't change it. They're the government. It's the same thing with the owners of franchises. Jerry Jones, anybody in their right mind who's a fuck Dallas Cowboy fan knows

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I got a yo, yo, yo, yo for you. Yo, I went to SummerSlan. What's the guy that works for, uh, uh, Michael Rubin? Sitting next to me, the red-haired guy, Michael, look up his name. He's the president of a fanatics. He's sitting next to me because I got a witness. Okay, so I go summer. I'm trying to tell you.

I'm about to tell you a story that's going to ring off Cap mania. They're going to be like, it's not true. But it's a million percent true. So I go to SummerSlam, right? And I went because a good friend of mine, Jelly Row, was wrestling. Right?

So I know he trained four months. I know Jelly Road, you know, he's a big boy. You know, I stick with the big boys. Pause. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa. I told you already. That ain't even part of this story.

All the fact, guys, I'm in their corner. Right? So I go, huh? Mike Herman is Mike. Whoever knows Mike Herman, he's the president for that. He's sitting right next. The point is, Cardi B sitting there too. It gets to the jelly roll.

It's jelly roll against Logan Paul and, Jelly roll come out with this guy What's that rest of jelly roll have with him? Yo, kiss, none of us. None of us want the fair one. We don't even want the 10 on one. We don't even want to be able to have a knife to fight this guy.

What? Randy. Even if he gave you weapons, you don't want to fight this guy. This guy is so big, bro. Like, he's unreal. Anybody go Google him if you don't know wrestling. This guy's the prototype, right? He might be the first human AI guy, right?

I'm looking at the dude, Logan Paul's incredible, right? But I'm looking at the, he's unreal, as a human being, it's like this guy is a problem, right? So I go, I'm looking, I'm cheering jelly roll up. They are beating the brakes off of jelly roll. They are double-suited. They're doing my man so filthy. Now, I'm a fat guy.

So I know every bone. I know what he's. Yo, I know every. I know every bone. I'm a fat guy. Who lost weight too? So I know when he falls, I say, that's two months out of the country awards.

He is not going to the country awards. Not after this shit. This was a childhood dream. I salute you, Jellyroll. In fact, I've never seen a celebrity. because you know you had Donald Trump in there. You had a bunch of celebrities

Mike Tyson. Mike. It went up in there but didn't really do. Snoop. Jelly roll was on top of the robes getting suplex getting hit with chairs

over the dead like he was all in. They beat the brakes out of this guy. Yo, and I'm there for jelly row, right? So I'm filming the shit. They put him on the table. Right?

I got it on my story. I'm front row. They put him on the table. And Logan Paul's up on the top row. He's outside on the table in front of the things. The man jumps and crashes on Jelly, bro. I immediately was like, all right, there he goes out for four months. There's nowhere.

But, like, I mean, they suckered me in. So Jellyroll's acting like he's hurt. So there's about a. I was about to say 100. Let me just keep it off the cap circuit. Ten guys ran over and girls. Ten guys and girls ran over. Oh, my God, are you okay?

I'm thinking he's hurt because I'm a fat guy. I know what just happened. I know. You know every bone. The vertebrained. I know his shit is fucked. Ah, B. So I'm thinking he's really hurt.

I'm like, yo, come on, jelly. Come on, but I'm really concerned. I'm going to be honest with you, Joseph, Antonio Cardahena. It's concerned. about Jellybow. They beat the shit out this dude. So bad. Legit.

Fucking seven foot shit. They double. You know, when they did the double on them, I said, come on, I can't do it. No amount of money. No amount of money could they double suplex me. I'd be dead.

I'm going to be honest with you. I break my own shit. I don't know what the fuck Jelly Row did to do it. But anyway, they got him on the floor. I'm believing it. Okay. And Cardi B is right next to me.

Get up. Get up. She's all in. Right? So I'm sitting there. I'm like, Jelly. I'm really, all jokes aside, word to my mother, I'm thinking he's really hurt.

Because they ran over. Like, they didn't do this the whole time. They ran over like 10 of them. Yo, Jelly, Jedd. And they talking to him, I'm thinking, this guy, he gets up and help him up. It took like 10 minutes. They fucking is.

man up over there, his tag team partner. They beating the break. They jumping him to death over there. He's getting his ass. The big guy? They beat the brakes off this dude while Jelly Roe is like, you know, Jelly Roe gets up

and turns around this. I'm sorry, Joe. I can't fight no more. I can't make it. I tried, Joe. Thank you for support me, Joe. It's a million people. in this fucking arena.

This is Jelly Row. Out of anybody, I swear to God, he looked at me. I'm sorry, Joe. I can't, Joe, I let you down. Joe. Michael, what's his name? It's right next to me.

He said they definitely not going to believe you. The guy from our fanatics, he said they're not going to believe this shit. Jelly Roe was telling me, I'm sorry, Joe. I can't finish. I can't.

I'm like, but jelly, I'm patting him on his. back. Yo, Jelly he's like, I'm sorry, Joe. I know you supported me. This, this, that. And he's walking. I'm like, damn, they fuck Jelly, bro. But in true

WWE fashion, he gets to the tip. He turns around. He starts looking. They're like, jelly, jelly. All of a sudden, the motherfucker I got the power. Came back. He came back and started

clothes lining dudes, fucking him up. I got suckered for the wrestling. I felt like a hokomaniat. I felt like back in the day, I'm looking at Jelly Role with J.L.A., J.L.A. Screaming with the crowd. J.L.A., J.L. And let me tell you something.

They still lost, but I got to salute Jelly Row. Y'all, I could, I cannot. Maybe I'm too old. Maybe he's a little bit. Jelly Roe might be younger than me, right? I personally know I can't take that. For sure? For sure.

I can't take it. Man, he's way younger than me. I get it. 40 years old, maybe 39, 40 I'd have tried it. Right about now with these amphibious legs. That shit off. NBA, Luca got the new muscles, the new contract. Luca came up to Dyckman.

They were shooting from the seat. Just water. They was going crazy in Dykemen for the guard. WNBA, they'd been throwing joint skis on the court. You seen that? No. They were joint joints. They were rubber jointsky.

They went to Dynasty Comadi. No. Not Joinskis. Joint skis. They throwing dildos on the court in the WNBA. That's a dildos of a joint ski? I mean, I didn't want. I try to keep it politically correct.

Yo, well, let me tell you something, man. This shit out of control. Like, yo, America's gunned. Wow. Joint skis on the court is great. And they keep throwing lime green. with it. They caught the last.

Somebody just got arrested. Somebody tried to keep it going and knock me. I went to the NBA, the WNBA with Remy, and she pulled up in my house and she got not just the short shorts. The short shorts. So I'm looking at her.

I'm like, yo, sis, like you're going to wear that shit in the game? What are you talking about, bro? I said, yo, my man. Yo, Every time I look at the bench, they're doing this to Remy. Hot shit, blowing kiss.

As soon as the game ended, they ran over Remy. I was like, yo, you look for the shit. You came to the fluidity. No, I ain't lying. And we love them. I'm a big fan of the WNBA. I got no problems. But I warned her premeditated,

but you came to my house with dumb shits. I said, yo, listen, It's going to be an issue. She don't want... I said, all right. Every time I look over my shoulder, they're going... Sending hearts and shit at Ram. I say, yo, Ram, you came to the wrong.

You came to the... The motherfuckers, they ran over at the end of the game. Hey, Ram, love you, this, this, that. But they're throwing joint skis at the game. That's violation. Yeah, that's violation. But it got to be... Nah, I ain't even jamming myself up like that.

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Pre flag Yo let me tell you something Jay to kiss Congratulations You're in the algorithm Yo this man It didn't take long For this man

To get in the system The joint skis on the court That's the funnier Of the shit I ever heard in my life I thought you meant Like they had Dykeman throwing joints

At Luca No no like joints Like marijuana Not pre-rolls. They're throwing joyskees on the court. Lime green jointskees. Oh, a lot. Why they lime green?

I don't know where they get the, I don't know where they got the color way from. I just know he's throwing joints skis, man. We got to stop this. Pay them ladies with you owe them. You know what? You know what? You know what?

You know what? Yeah, somebody lost one of the mayor bets. They needed somebody to have two more points. They took a Mount Joint ski. Through the Yala. Yeah. Now, that's what me happening. Your May is over there like this.

Guy got 12. Who was it? You spent 10,000 you had on that game. What was the guy? What was the guy? He scored 12. Chad Ogrim, bro. They pulled him out 12.

I was like, yo, for sure. It was like seven minutes left. I'm like, for sure he scored for you. He spent 9,000, ladies and gentlemen. Mayer spent 9,000. 9,000. Yeah, that was at 9,000. That's a Canadian border conversation there.

Let me tell you something. Nobody bigger than the program. Nobody is bigger than the program. And when people start thinking they bigger than the program, that's when they disappear. You know, and even I, me, I've had the conversation because people look at me like I'm the leader of my crew. But I've had the conversation with guys in my crew where I say,

nobody's bigger than the program. Even Fat Joe is accessible. If I, for some reason I'm out of here, you know, the show goes on. I ain't just talking about rap. I'm just talking about in life. And so people get confused thinking they're bigger than the program. Like, yeah, your contributions is incredible. Yeah, we appreciate what you do.

I mean, if you want to be tough, we got 30 tough guys. What do you feel about people when they start thinking they bigger than the program? Karma and deal with them. Let God sort of them. Kill them and didn't let God sort of them.

I love that. Let me get these questions in your, Jada's on one today, boy. Let me tell you, so. Yo, by the way, if yesterday's the third, the fourth anniversary,

of our versus locks a dip set than today's the anniversary of yesterday's price it's not

two days what hello we didn't even got to do no questions that was it no we don't need

no questions and we got end it with that man I got to say shout out rest of peace to Chubby baby

that was dipset that moved down to Atlanta because he threw the battery in my back I went to my store the next day he was, you know, he was dip set so we start talking about this shit I said you know why

let me crack this IG open pause and talk about my experience in this because he was so passionate about it that we was going back and forth so much I said maybe somebody wanted to hear about the shit

and the numbers because I used to do the IG the numbers was I don't even know how many, we had hundreds of thousands of people on the live at one time. I never did that before. And while I'm talking my shit, I'll talk about you.

And I just say, yo, any produce, any promoter that was negotiating with Jada kiss's team last week and didn't book them, just know that yesterday's price

is not today's price. Yesterday's price is not. price is not today's price. And super viral. Did I cash in on it? I don't know. I don't think I did much of it, but I didn't get merch. I didn't. You know, I thought I could sue somebody. They had a bank company with a dude was dancing.

Yesterday's price is not saying it like me. I saw him. He was like, it's like, you don't own this shit. It was like, damn. I thought we had them. Like, I'm not going to sue somebody of our nature, You got a bank, white dude with an umbrella. Yesterday's price is not saying, I said, oh, I got them. He was like, no, you can't sue, you know.

But it was fun times. Yeah, I don't think you. Let's get these questions, James. Yesterday's price is not today's price. That phrase right there changed my life. Let me tell you something. And shout out to, what's your tea, Kanye? Kanye sample that started that yesterday's right.

they crack, crack on Diet Coke. If I would have told him, it would have been a Diet Pepsi, even though I looked like a human Diet Coke today. You know what I'm saying? Get the questions, let's go. Yo, this is Brad Register from Wildwood, Florida, now resigning in Newport News, Virginia. I like what you guys doing, man.

I love y'all show. My question is, you know, when your guys were coming up through hip-hop, Like, what was y'all favorite show out of your MTV Raps or Rap City? And also, could you guys try to get FavFive Freddy on the show? Because I know you guys are like hearing stories and stuff like that. And he's like been around hip hop for a long time. So I know he got crazy stories. You MTV Raps or Raps City?

Rap City. Yo MTV Rapp. I'm going to disrespect the whole shit and say video music box, really. He didn't give us that option. But we liked the video music box more than both of them. Now, Thad Fy Fy Fretty. We needed him on the show. From graffiti, we need Fad Fy Friady.

He's real hip. Fafi Freddie, I think he did the first collab. Because when I was looking into like, I can't explain it to you any other way. The Bronx was a war zone. Like, people live in abandoned buildings. The biggest gang wasn't the bloods and crips. It was the stray dogs.

So when I think about the beginning of hip hop I can't believe a white girl Fairfied Freddy's from the Bronx No I'm not saying that But it started in the Bronx Russell Simmons came to the Bronx They all came to the Bronx The fever of the first nightclub playing hipops

In the Bronx Salafo What I'm trying to say is I never understood The first major collaboration was Blondie Right up in the, I've never understood how this white girl had the heart to either

go Sedrick, Bronx River, or my hood, and make this song and have rappers on there. And then when I went down to like trying to figure out how it happened, Fat 5 Freddie made that happen.

You know how early he had to be in the game of hip-hop to make that song possible, the blondeie? Rapcha Let's get in the hip hop So I agree with this brother right here We need Fat 5 Freddy on the show

Just to keep it I mean that's what I think we're doing Preserving the culture Next question, please Yo Jada This is not a question Do you remember walking into TGI Fridays and Yonkers

At Cross County and buying a girl A Hennessy shot After leaving the hospital, you had a hospital band. That's my newborn baby. That was the coolest thing you've ever done. I was in absolute shock. I said nothing. You said nothing.

Bought me a shot of Hennessy and walked out. I love you. One of my favorite rappers. I just have to share that memory with you in case you don't remember that. No recollection. I was off an anesthesia. He got super love for you. And shout out to Stu Leonard's.

Stu Leonard's and Yonkers, man. They came out for that so. out of rum. Puerto Rican rum. They came out by the hundredth. You knew it, right? I told me it was going to be lit. Stude Lennis, Yonkins.

What's up, y'all? Yo, Joe, yo, Jada, what it up? Man, your boy ranks a million from the Bronx and all that. I just want to ask, why are DJs and, like, mainstream artists not discovering or breaking new artists no more? They leaving it all to the new artists to, like, do it by themselves, and then they want to help once. the up-and-coming artists already did what they needed to help with.

I think that's on the individual, I mean, some people don't know how to ask for help. Some people don't know how to offer help, and some people don't know how to do either one. Me, I gave up on helping artists. I'm all out of favors myself. I'm all out of taking every relationship I ever had and signing you and introducing you to all my important people and then paying for your videos, buying your clothes,

putting you in the studio, helping you make the hands. And then as soon as you pop, you tell me I ain't shit. I'm not doing that. No more. I'm firm on it. In fact, I heard the artist. And I'm going to shout you out. I don't know what your name is.

But I went to this thing pretty little be doing this DJ, uh, turntable thing, battle thing. And everybody was in there. And I went to Jersey. And I went down there and some dude rapped who normally I would, signed him in one second. This guy was so nice, nyrically, fluidly.

Every word he said came Crystal Claire. And after he performed, he came around me. All I could do is say, yo, bro. Congratulations. What's up with you or Chris? Chris said, Yo, Joe, this guy's incredible. I said, yeah, but

he's going to tell me he suck his dick. And, you know, he was the biggest he was the biggest in the game before he met me. He's the livis. He's He knows everything. He's like, I'm not doing that. Like, I just can't help you no more. I've been burnt too many times, pause.

Next question, please. Hey, what's up, y'all, man? This DJ Nasson Nate calling straight out of South Florida, man, for four miles. Hey, my question is, man, y'all long been doing it so long. But was the one thing that you wish you would have never did? One thing I wish I never did is gave so many people my phone number. you got the same number for like 20 years and all that

recently I used to change my shit like socks what was the question again James which one of the things you wish you never did beat so many people up certain ones should have talked it out yeah yeah talked it out a few times

it was certain ones that when I look back I just say it just didn't make sense and I'm keeping it a buck. It didn't make sense that when I look back at it now, like, yo, you know what? Because sometimes you beat a guy up and they become martyrs. And people, you know, look at them like,

you know, they wasn't even authorized to get beat up. These guys didn't even deserve it. You know, but now they're the guys that Fat Joe and the Terror Squad beat up. And they're running around and, oh, yo, that's homie. You know, fat Joe. them beat them up, like, too much fluidity for these guys in the hood. They didn't even deserve it.

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