The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss on squashing 50 Cent beef, Eminem's first NYC show & Big Pun joining Terror Squad

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss dig in the crates and share some legendary stories from their come up in New York City. They share memorable moments like witnessing Eminem for the first time when he opened for J...oe and Big Pun, the full story behind Pun joining Terror Squad, a young Jadakiss accidentally attending an unbelievable block party with Run-D.M.C., Rappin' Duke, and The Fat Boys, Joe and 50 Cent squashing their beef, Big Daddy Kane introducing the world to Jay-Z, and the battle between LL Cool J and Canibus. Along with the stories about hip hop legends, Joe and Jada share some wild stories from their teenage years in NYC, from causing chaos on Halloween night to an unreal confrontation between the Bronx and Brooklyn at a March of Dimes event. They finish off the show by picking their top-five posse cuts, including LL's "I Shot Ya (Remix)" and Craig Mack's "Flava In Ya Ear (Remix)." 05:00 - Suge Knight's place in hip hop history 12:30 - Jada attending AMAZING Run-D.M.C. block party 17:15 - Eminem opening for Joe & Big Pun 25:30 - Big Pun joining Terror Squad 35:30 - Throwback stories from their NYC blocks 1:03:15 - Top 5 posse cuts 1:12:30 - Joe squashing 50 Cent beef Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano return to headline the most decorated boxing card in history, featuring 9 world champions and 21 titles on the line. Streaming LIVE Friday, July 11 on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/82035642#Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:11 You know, I was there the first time in New York City we ever seen the M&M. They was holling him by the back of his t-shirt so he don't fly off the stage. He was just spitting so crazy. A man, punt, we all looking at each other like, oh my God, who's this white boy? That boy, he's crazy. going. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? This is Joe Crack to Dawn.
Starting point is 00:02:46 It's your boy Jada. You know what it is. The Joe and Jada show, man. What's up, y'all? Yo, Jada, you got that fly shit on. That's what you got, bro. You got to stop fucking playing. You bought that baby pastel out.
Starting point is 00:03:01 You know what I'm saying? That Valenciaga. That mint. That mint, chocolate chip, mint. Pepper, mint. Let me tell you. something boy he threw that shit on you know uh hip hop at his finest i've been in the game professionally i would say 33 years how many years you've been in the game 20 something 20 something
Starting point is 00:03:27 and people don't understand i got an ill story with you you didn't even know about no i had an ill story i might have saved you and you ain't know it right it was one time I never forget. We had a show in Chicago, and then Chicago has said, anybody come from out of town, we robbing them. You don't remember that shit? At one time, they was...
Starting point is 00:03:53 I could tell you who it was, but you was there. When I walked in, Jadikis was already there, I walked in with extra jury. I went, I went out there, you know, I got a hole. Oh, I do, remember. We had a show. We had a show one time in the shot. Remember that? And that shit was... I don't know
Starting point is 00:04:10 if you knew that what was going on behind the scenes, it really was nothing to do with us. It just, it was so... We landed on Plymouth Farr. Yes. Yes, we landed on Plymouth Rock. They had the pimp with the machine gun
Starting point is 00:04:26 under the fucking... He was like, um, on a wheelchair. His shit got real crazy out there. And I remember I seen... Jada... And the guys from Chicago salute who was threatening everybody.
Starting point is 00:04:40 They were the first guys I saw when I walked in. I had the stupid, I wore an extra jury because they was like, yo, anybody coming here, we robbing them? Streets was like, yo, I went over there with the dumb jury that day. But, you know, I got the crazy, you know, I got the crazy crew in Chicago, too. They seen the seven-headed swordsmen that never come out of the house. They was like, aye, this guy came in.
Starting point is 00:05:04 But, you know, thinking of terrifying events, you know, really makes me think of one guy. There's a historical figure in hip-hop. And now that the man blind, he in jail, lost all his money, people are like use his names and raps and all that. But when Shug Knight had $300 million, they were terrified of this man. Shug was shaking shit up.
Starting point is 00:05:34 He was shaking shit. Shaken or super shaken? He was shaking shit. The man goes, I don't know, right? Because the theory is, I forget what movie it was. I think it was Bronx there
Starting point is 00:05:47 where he said, I'd rather be feared than love. I used it in, I shot you, right? I'd rather be feared than love. Do you truly rather be feared than love in real life? Because this man was so feared
Starting point is 00:06:01 that I don't know if I would feel good about myself. You know, I went to an award show one time and I ain't going to talk about The Vibe Awards. That was, that would, but I went to an award show.
Starting point is 00:06:13 That was the craziest shit. I was there. I got, that's one of the first awards I ever got. The Vibe of, you was there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 When Shugnight walked in by himself. He was, he scared the whole place with a cigar. You want to talk about that? Lisa Keyes running back. She, you know, she pulled me to the side.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Because I told this story before, she was like, yo, bro. I was like, you know, I worship you, Alicia, but you did run past me with the red dress. Like, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:41 Russell, Nick's, all he did was walk in. Everybody ran out the whole shit. There was no violence yet. Everybody was running. Swiss was like, yo,
Starting point is 00:06:52 she don't appreciate how you put in the store. I said, no, she's my sister. I worship her, but she ran right past me with the red gown on. Like Russell Simmons
Starting point is 00:07:00 was tumbling over. Like, it was like the Great White Shock was in the building. They just let him out of jail. He walked in his, he didn't have a, gun. His shit was a cigar. He was like this. The whole fucking awards. And I wasn't even
Starting point is 00:07:13 talking about that because I don't want to go into that one. Right. But by the fact, I felt, right, because I'm only there with my wife. I think I'm there with Armaged and Tony. I wasn't there with the goons. But it felt like saving Private Ryan or something. Like when you see the guy in the middle of a war zone and somebody standing there and everybody's running. getting, like, I'm standing there. I see Norrie stood there and it's just everybody was running for no way. There's before the violence.
Starting point is 00:07:48 This is like the minute they saw him, I'm talking about a whole other time. I'm at a BET Award a summit. Then we go to the after they got a restaurant that's open. Got a thousand people in there. The whole industry. I'm not just talking about rappers. Was in there talking.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It was loud. It was this. next thing I know the whole restaurant is quiet and I turn around the whole restaurant emptied out it was us eating and Shug Nye sat down
Starting point is 00:08:17 in the table right next to us him just walking in the restaurant the whole restaurant ran out the restaurant like it was like they were so shook of this dude everybody out there that you know I just he was like
Starting point is 00:08:34 what up big up For some reason, he would call me all the time, big homie. What up, big homie? I'm like, yo, what's up? Yo, this sat down. We ate our food. We left. And people were just terrified of him on site.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I'll tell you this story that Koolandre told me. Right? So Koolandre super produces, my brother's terrorist squad. They went to L.A. for a BMI award. And when they went to L.A. for the BMI Award, there was a line going in. So they stood on line thinking that's the line to go in. So all of our favorite rappers and producers and all that was on that line. As they were going in close and closer,
Starting point is 00:09:18 they realized at the front of the line was Shug Night. And everybody was taking off their earrings politely, their chains, their watches. Just, no way. Okay. Okay. No way. You know Kool and J, they're telling you,
Starting point is 00:09:36 and I'm talking about, yo, listen, Kiss. Famous friends of ours, you would never believe was on that line. Famous friends was voluntarily on that line running the Jews. And so the line wasn't to the front door. It was a line to Shug Knight.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Give me your jury. So Kool and J look and they're like, you know, they'll tell you they're not gangstice. They were like, okay, we figured we get robbed. They got the T.S chains on at Rolex. They go up to the front, Shugnay. He's like, each of them producers guys with Joey. And then he was like, yeah, you know, Kool-in-Jay.
Starting point is 00:10:12 They was like, yo, you tell a big homie, man, this all love, this and that, just walk in, this, this, this. So they almost felt like they almost wanted to get robbed with everybody else because everybody else was looking at him like the fix was in. Like they was down with the shit. Yo, I'm telling you had any run-ins with Shugnight that he tried to, Like, say, yo, can I sign you or some shit? Because Shug called Sheik Mom's crib when we was in like the, when we was young, right before, right when the bad boy deal was on the table.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Oh, before you signed a bad boy, he heard that you were signing. Somebody, somehow he heard. And we was in Sheik's crib watching video music box. And Shug called his crib. Luch must have been like, hold on coming. it's fucking sugar on the phone. So he's like, what? And he like, I remember they said,
Starting point is 00:11:10 yo, we want to sign. They never even heard us. They just must have, because Puff was about to sign us. He's like, yo, y'all, y'all can get on a red eye at night with how many people, however many people you want to come over here with, like, a fly out at night. Dada-da-da-da. We thought about it. He was like, we can't do that.
Starting point is 00:11:30 It wouldn't have been, when it was all set. and done, it wouldn't have been a good look. It wouldn't have. It might have worked for the men, but it probably wouldn't have worked overall for the, you know what I mean? Now, you got to represent over there. You're absolutely right. You know.
Starting point is 00:11:46 But then after I got on, after, you know, I'm in the game popping, everywhere I would come, he would, it's like, as soon as I get my bags from baggage claim, they was calling him. And everywhere I had to be, he was popping up.
Starting point is 00:12:02 You know what I'm saying? He wasn't on no shit. He was just, he was just everywhere I was at. But it wasn't, he wasn't on, he wasn't, he wasn't on no type of time. Definitely was. I think he already had a relationship with D and him, so he knew, he knew I was going to go down. He did have a relationship with D. Yeah, yeah, he was, he had a relationship with him.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah, he did. And he was cool with Irv, too. He was cool with a couple of people. Pistol Pee was hanging out in L.A. with him everywhere. Yo, these guys, this is crazy, man. These guys hang out together, right? This shit is nuts. But I think about when we talk about hip-hop, right?
Starting point is 00:12:43 And, you know, I come from the birthplace. So when I try to explain to people when we go into this. Yeah, yeah. But, yo, Jada, it's not my fault. I'm born there. Right? So when you, you Muslim, you look at the Mecca where they're walking around the shit. It's not my fault.
Starting point is 00:13:02 from that place. Melly Mell lived in my neighborhood. Grandmaster Flash live in my neighborhood. Shah Rock, first female MC in my neighborhood, Little Rodney C. Ruby D. the first Latino MC ever live in my neighborhood. Lubbock Starsky lived in my neighborhood. All these guys lived in my neighborhood, Mr. Ness.
Starting point is 00:13:22 So I'm from the birthplace. So when I talk in my shit, it's kind of hard to argue with me because I'm actually there. Like, as a little kid, when they see me, they go Little Joey. That's Angels brother, Little Joey. Smack me on the head.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yo, I'll keep it moving. It's like, that's how I grew up in hip-hop. But I think about, I remember the first time I ever saw KRS One was in Cortland Projects. I'll shout out Sadat X. And he had, he was this skinny. He had this Bob Marley shirt on T-shirt with the fucking roster hat. and he did the South Bronx.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I was mesmerized this before we even heard it. By the second time he did it, the whole fucking jam was going South Bronx, South, South. We knew the song, the second time he did it. He did it one time by the second,
Starting point is 00:14:16 it was pandemonious. Right? I'm thinking of, who did you see perform for like the very first time that you've seen him ever performed? One time when I, When I was little, my mom's came and snatched me off the block.
Starting point is 00:14:32 That's how I always like to say. My mom's is responsible for my hip-hop career. One time, late 80s, I'm chilling on the block. You're playing high water, low water, when you got to jump over the rope and they keep raising. So it's the whole block of summer day. You know, a day in a summer day in New York is better than anywhere. That's a fair. The whole block is playing, is lit, it's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:15:01 My mom's come, get in the car. Me. Now, when they get in the car? We, don't know what I'm saying? Boy, get in. Now I'm tight, and she's like, you know, a couple of your men could come and ask their moms, get in.
Starting point is 00:15:16 She bring me to Mount Vernon, Memorial Field. Open the car door, say, yo, when you get at this time, meet me back here at the car. I get in the field it's the fucking fat boys stick a mile
Starting point is 00:15:33 shit was crazy though I'm like how the hell did she then it was fat boys it was rapping Duke then run the MC the hot or hot that shit was crazy dog
Starting point is 00:15:44 run damn C fat boys rapping Duke in the park the best that shit was I'm like how the fuck
Starting point is 00:15:50 it was no it was no it was nearly news papers but I'm like Who gave my mind the call that this shit was, and that shit would probably change my life right there. You know, you know, me and my brother, you know, my uncle Angel, you know, he's a pastor now and all that.
Starting point is 00:16:09 But he had promised us he was going to take us to that concert in Madison Square Garden that run DMC. The one they say everybody put up the Adidas in the air. Fresh, fetch. We waited for him in front of the building. Like, yo, let me tell youself. When you see these movies, of kids waiting for their father to come
Starting point is 00:16:27 and their father never come. When I tell you, me and my brother was looking at every fucking headlight coming up the block hoping my uncle came. He never came? Nah, he never came. And you know what? My uncle Angel, he wasn't even like hip-hop like that. So
Starting point is 00:16:43 I believed him. We sat in front of the projects waiting for hours and then all you can hear is the legendary stories about motherfucking lift up only a deep. and all that, but maybe we was too young. That shit also got, you know, people always like to say,
Starting point is 00:17:01 yo, hip hop started peaceful, but every block party I went to, somebody pulled out a shotgun and robbed the whole park. Or started a stampede. Or starting a stampede, right? So even at First Fest, no matter everything that happened, they said, Brooklyn's in the house. Like, you know, like, they were like, you know, it was going down in that motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:17:22 They was throwing dudes over the whole shit. So when it comes to first, you know, I was there the first time in New York City we ever seen the M&M. And so he opened up for me and Pund at the Lyrus Lounge, the outsiders group out of New Jersey. They brought him out. And this man was, you knew he was special. And all of me, dudes got dreadlocks and all that. And he was so skinny, they was holding him by the back of his T-shirt. He don't fly off the stage.
Starting point is 00:17:57 He was just spitting so crazy. And me and pumped, we all looking at each other like, oh, my God. Who's this white boy? That boy crazy. You know, I was at this thing called Zodiac 2. I used to go to over there to City Highbridge now. And so we used to go to that club all the time. And I was there the first time I saw Biz Marquis bring out Big Daddy King.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Big Daddy King had the roster, had King go to the side, right? And this is when hip hop was hip hop to where you could have been tough if you wanted to be tough, but it was really about loving the hip hop moment. So, you know, guys had the Benetton bags and all that shit. And when that man said, Big Daddy came, went up there, he was like supercalifragalistic, that gets me, I look goscious. I literally seen dudes trying to run up the wall, like defy gravity. This one used to be like, oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And you whiling and shit like that. Man, you know, I was there when Big Daddy Kane brought out Jay-Z for the first time. It was in Manhattan. Big Daddy King brought him out. And Jay-Z started spitting. And you knew he was special because at the time, J-Z wore the, I mean, Big Daddy King wore the crown for him to bring a young boy out there in Manhattan to get that boy to spit.
Starting point is 00:19:23 You know. So, you know, there was things like that that was legendary to me. Of course I seen Finesse bring out Big Hell for the first time. You know, Finesse had like your fans. Okay, so Finesce had fans that would just go, they didn't even want to hear the beat. They didn't hear, they just wanted to go, oh. I want to hear the lyrics.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Oh! And the fans almost lined themselves. up. They be in the crowd lining themselves up just to cheer. They'd be like Lord Phinez is the man that you got to hear. So they just keep going. That was this fan and so when Big Hell
Starting point is 00:20:10 came out there and started spitting with Finesse, I was out there in the first show. It was uptown. It was like that's considered Dominican land now for Marble Hill and all that. That was the first time Phinez brought him out. It's going down Friday, July 11th. Netflix and most valuable promotions are bringing the fight the whole world's been waiting
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Starting point is 00:21:51 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jones. Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 00:22:09 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
Starting point is 00:22:29 where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy,
Starting point is 00:22:50 not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob O'S, to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
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Starting point is 00:23:34 We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis.
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Starting point is 00:25:00 Of course, me with Big Pond, you know, Big Pung was just this big fat Puerto Rican dude. He would wear them hats like, like, like. Did you know PUN when he was small? No. You didn't? I met Pund big. So I'm coming out the bodega.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I'm finishing my second album. Look at it. Like, I'm handing in my second album. And coming out the bodega, and they freestyling. And he's like, yo, yo, yo, let me go to it. Now I know I was set up. At that time, I thought it was like, God, a miracle of some shit. Now I know Big Punt set me up.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Like, he came to my block to rhyme. And he was like, his whole intention was like, yo, let's see if that Joe listens to us. So I come in front of the store, they got a couple of dudes freestyler. They go, yo, yo, yeah, yeah, let me go. He's already semi-big, right? So then he do that.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Oh, it's just the early bays. Snatched the moon up the sky and blow the sun away. Me and my niggas playing hardcore, hardcore lyrics till I'm in the, I was like, no. Stop. I did the J-D-A- them. Whoa. Yeah. Stop!
Starting point is 00:26:20 No! I had the Lexus 400, the big boy, I opened that door like concierge. The man came up in there and sat down. The whole shit went down. And his crew, they looked so sad because it was a group. They looked so sad because he was the only one I put in the car. But I pointed at them and I said, your pun, don't worry we're going to put them on. You got to worry about chew right now.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I'm going to bust you out. You're going to blow up. And then you put your man's on. You know what I'm saying? He was like, all word, word, word. And then we just, Cruz.
Starting point is 00:27:01 He told me his whole life story. That's all, you know what's crazy is. Pun told me his life story, right? So I come from selling drugs, dealing with the wildest animals you ever dealt with. It did complete treason of,
Starting point is 00:27:18 of, treason, fucking, what, betrayal, robbers, just people you just can't trust. So I couldn't believe that he was telling me his real life story the first second I ever met him. He got in the car. One deal he made with me, he said, yo, man.
Starting point is 00:27:37 He said, so Trump was like this real, live, real nigger, but that never really had a crew, a pistileros. He didn't have a crew. I had an army since I was in kindergarten, bro. I'm telling you. I got a story. He rests in peace. Fuente, Julio Fonte, my barber for many years.
Starting point is 00:27:57 He said, I was five years old. I walked to his barbershop with 20 kids. And he said, he was like, yo, I can't cut your head with these 20 kids. And he said that I told them all to go outside and wait for me. And they all went outside. And that's when my barber,
Starting point is 00:28:11 Julio Fonte, told me, I knew you were the leader. I knew you were going to run this shit. You was five years old telling 20 guys wait outside. Right? So, Pund, the point I'm making is, pun says, is those terrorist squad, is that going to be my crew?
Starting point is 00:28:31 I said, yes. I knew, listen, I'm such a fan. Kiss, Eminem, Nas, G-Rap. I know, I've studied hip-hop so much. I knew I found the illest thing in the world. I was like, yes. He says, are they going to do what I say?
Starting point is 00:28:48 I said, they're going to, they're going to love you. I'm going to do whatever you say. Oh, I'm in. I'm in. He's like he always wanted that army with him, right? And sure enough, to this day, they lawyer you to. So when we drive out to you an ill story. He says, pun tells me a story.
Starting point is 00:29:03 He was homeless. Nobody. He wanted to show his family, his bloodline, his DNA, that he wasn't going to be a piece of shit. They always told me he was going to be a piece of shit. He's telling me this the first minute I met him. I never seen vulnerability like that. But then he tells me this one story. He says, man, I wanted.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I want to impress my uncle. So I'm saying, your uncle? He was like, yeah, man. He said, I got an uncle. He's really rich. He said, and one day I went to him and told him I was hungry. And he went in my hand and he gave me a bunch of rocks, rocks. Like rocks and told him to eat that.
Starting point is 00:29:44 So pun is like, yo, my uncle was rich. I told him I was hungry. He put rocks in my hand. He told me to eat that. So long story short, successful, first Latino double platinum, filthy rich. Now, let me explain big pun to you. Big pun had 10 benzos and beemers in front of it. He wouldn't leave out the hood.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I was begging him. I was already in church. I'm already hearing birds chirping little kids playing hockey in front of the shit. I'm gone. Like, he's still in the soft bronze. He's still, not the soft brown. He's sound view. Everybody know 10 benches.
Starting point is 00:30:21 He had a limousine on 24-hour hold. 365 days. He had a guy, a limousine with a driver just sitting in front of the crib 24 hours a day. Right? Little dogs, if he had a fur, his kids had furs. They even got the furs for the dogs. And the dogs was from like Europe or some. He was the true pedestrian of blowing a bag.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Big point. He couldn't hold on the money. He was just going crazy. He probably was the first rapper with three Rolex watches on. Like, this guy was out of control with it, right? So, pun, unfortunately, he passes away. We do the funeral.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Right? So I rent this big-ass funeral in the Bronx. We get people to put this whole family's there. So you know how they do the, you see the body before everybody. Long story short, his family's there. We all crying. Everybody's crying. So the door opens and a man walks in. I see the whole family jump up like,
Starting point is 00:31:25 like they saw a savior some shit, right? It's puns, bodies right here, right? I'm just saying, I'm looking at, oh, oh, they was acting like that. You already know what that is. I come from where my uncle was rich. My uncle failure from all the number spots. They seen the guy with the bag. They all jumped. Oh, right? So he walks in. He says, hides to the family. You know what he says to me? He says, Yo, what is this guy doing here?
Starting point is 00:31:51 Meanwhile, I pay for the whole fucking funeral, my nigga, like everybody knows it's Joe and pun. That's like looking at styles of Jeter, like, what are they doing here? So I'm sitting there like this.
Starting point is 00:32:01 He says, what is this guy doing here? To his family. And his family's like, no, no, no, no, no. For multiple reasons, Joe paid and Joe will fuck me up. Like, you're playing a terrible game right now.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Wrong one, huh? Yeah, you might get, you might go, early downstairs. You don't want that shit, right? So the man turned around and do that to me
Starting point is 00:32:25 and I say, yo, I know who you is. He was like, oh, you know who I am? I said, yeah. I said, you're the uncle, the rich uncle. First five minutes I met,
Starting point is 00:32:35 pun. He told me how much of a piece of shit you was and how he told you was hungry and you gave him rocks. I said, let me tell you something, man. Welcome, I paid for all this at number two.
Starting point is 00:32:47 your family's about to tell you, we will beat the living shit out of you right here now and they'll drag you out the back of this shit. He shut the fuck up the rest of the funeral. Right? As he shouldn't. No, no, he shut the fuck up the rest of the funeral and, you know, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I'm, you know, but anyway, that funeral, I'm sure you guys came through, Puff came through, Little Kim, Mac10 flew in. TLC. You know, it was so crazy because you know how you get the flowers in the funeral? I'm reading the flowers. So the flowers
Starting point is 00:33:27 is like sent by Eminem. Eminem might have sent seven flowers for the Big Pond funeral. Whitney Houston sent like seven flowers. Like these people we never met. This is like you got to go to the Grammy to meet all these people and
Starting point is 00:33:43 all the stars from all over was sending flowers and I'm reading it. I couldn't believe it. Like T-L-C, T-Bars walked up in there. Everybody, they had so much respect for him. I remember, you know, the Biggie funeral. You know what I'm saying? I went to Brooklyn in front of his old crib,
Starting point is 00:34:04 and I just was out there in the streets. When you see the video of the streets of everybody wild it, because I pulled up in front of the funeral, and I just felt like I didn't want to see Big, like that, but I was across the street from the Frankie Campbell. You went to the big funeral? Yeah, I went. You had to be sad, huh?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Hell yeah. I mean, that shit was traumatizing for me, for us. You know, that was our first time in L.A. when that shit happened with him. So that wasn't. And we made, we always loved Big Papa. They played that. They actually played.
Starting point is 00:34:43 In the funeral? They played it for the mom. Mafia and his family. We only made it for that. We never made it to be released. We only made it to play for them. I mean, then both end up releasing it with missing you and all. Yeah, that sure was it.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Hip-hop. What made you get in the game? What let you know this is the reason you picking up a mic or you writing on your paper? For me, when I was little, I was always breakdancing, doing shit. I was known on the block as the little, I just was intrigued by hip.
Starting point is 00:35:23 In my uncle's room, like I said, listening to the Furious Five, they used to have park jams in YO. I was sneaking in all of them joints. One time I went all the way across town to Black Heritage Day when I was little. My mom was going to whip my ass, but she saw that I love hip hop so much.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I ain't get in trouble, but I should have got how far I went and how young I was. I could have been dead right now. Hip hop saved my life, for real, you could say. She was going to kill me. I was just sitting on the fucking hill looking at the bankers performing. And what I say is that that's similar to me. I remember the first time I heard Eric being rockin with the tone.
Starting point is 00:36:12 and we went to the, bonoom, and we went to what's called now where A. Bugney and them is from, right? But at that time, it was on University Avenue. We had to take like two, three trains from the five and two to the four. And then you get off at Burnside and you got to walk up that big ass hill. Burnside. There's one thing you drive that hill. You walk that motherfucker?
Starting point is 00:36:41 Oh my God. Like, it felt like the warriors when you, when you, like, and so we on the other side, it's almost like being in California, you know, from where I'm from. At that time, we didn't know no call. We take a train for hours. And that's where we saw the WAP for the first time. And they was playing that shit, boom, but on them. And back in the days, you know, and we studying them and we're trying to do the dance.
Starting point is 00:37:09 We took that bitch back. home that next day we went to the park jam they doing that eric b and rock kim and we started doing the walk everybody started studying the walk i mean you know back back in that day it was more um word of mouth yeah so anyway it is is word of mouth or the phone with the spank that made me think of an ill story right and so part of being a great storyteller is you tell your wins and you tell your losses. You know what I'm saying? You've got to be able to, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:47 you got to have the people tune in where they feel like they're there, right? So I come from a project called Guardsville, right? So also, it was like the mecca of the 5%ists. So everyone, I was the guard crack Kim, great God Allah. Yo, yo. No, yo, yo, yo, I'm telling you what it is, right?
Starting point is 00:38:14 You got to, yo, listen, you got to think, you got to think, you got to think, listen. What is this? Listen. Yo, you got to think, there's no other way to do it. You got to think, y'all, everybody go check out this movie back in the day is called Fresh. You got to think Chuckie. Remember, Fresh, what's the funky dope move? But think Chuckie from Fresh.
Starting point is 00:38:37 You live in Dats Ferry right now. We found us. Yeah, because I ain't, my man, my man that's in Fresh, fresh, he used to work out with us. He moved to Cali now, but when we got to him, I got to meet him. I got to meet him. We didn't meet him.
Starting point is 00:38:53 We just found him. He said, Dawes Ferry. Also, you ain't, Chuckie, if he watched this show, come on. I got to meet Chuckie. So Fadjo is Chuckie for Friends. There's no way around. In real life, that's what he was, the fucking, yo, punish it.
Starting point is 00:39:07 We bust the stupid. That was just, Joe, always the guy starting to trouble, always getting in trouble, always trying to do too much, always trying to, you know, while out just every fucking time, right? And so I grew up, my projects, 90% black, 10% Puerto Rican. It is what it is. So the gods being there, and I'm Chuckie for fresh. Like, yo, get the fuck up out of you.
Starting point is 00:39:33 They're building, trying to do the siphon. I'm saying ham, ham, salemmy, and bacon. and I'm fucking with everybody, right? So you got the guards from Section 5 Corp City, Patterson Projects. All the guards know, they come to my, my projects was the Mecca,
Starting point is 00:39:50 Garsville, and he was the little, I was the annoying fat Puerto Rican nigga that were fucked with everybody. He said, yo, you ain't God body, but you know you being witness, the God,
Starting point is 00:40:00 yeah, I'm the God crack camp. Great God Allah, y'all know what's, right? So, if you want the person, bitcher, this is what it is, right? So now they had some shit in Manhattan. Right?
Starting point is 00:40:14 They had some shit in Manhattan. I'm going to tell y'all true story. Don't get mad at me, Bronx. They had this shit called Marchadine. I remember the March, Lori shouldn't even listen to this story because this is like, this was like, you know, March of Dine was raising money in this.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, the thing with the change in the, remember? But at the end, just before you go to the ferry to Staten Island, that is battery, whatever that shit is down there. So one day we said, because Brooklyn used to be there deep, so one day we told the whole entire Bronx, the whole entire Bronx that we're going down there. And I ain't going to lie to you say they was 20, 30, 40,000 black dudes. They had one fat Spanish nigger.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I was, you might as well say I was surfing on that. on the trick. You ain't able to sell me. The BX, nigga to sell, bro. I'm like, Chuckie from Fresh. I'm like on 10,000, right?
Starting point is 00:41:18 So we get out. Every train, it was like the Warriors. It was just thousands, hundreds of guys from the Bronx from Co-op City, the Valley, all way down to Patterson. I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:34 everybody got the memo. We're going down there. Right? So we get out the train and battery park. South Bronx, South South Browns, South Brown, South Bronx. I mean thousands of us, right? South Bronx, right? Next thing you know, as we're getting closer to the park,
Starting point is 00:41:55 I start hearing like, South Bronx, South, South Bronx, South Bronx, South Bronx. South, South, South. And I'm still like, yeah, South Bronx. South Bronx. And man, we get to this part. And what I don't think we relied on is people having cousins in Brooklyn, right? So they must have told Brooklyn the Bronx was coming out there. Geographically, Brooklyn is like seven times bigger than the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:42:24 If we had 20,000, they had 100,000. Brooklyn in the house. Brooklyn. And then I ain't going to lie. The bass in the Bronx voice really told, man, we got. got it popping instantly. It was just the bronze against Brooklyn. We're fighting all over.
Starting point is 00:42:43 I see all these guys who I thought was the toughest guys getting hit. They would hit you with the fucking Frank for the man. The Frank for the truck. They pounding you out. They threw the whole guy. They throw the whole fucking truck on you. Like, this shit was bad out there. Like, yo, we was taking a beat.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I just see a niggins. Brody. Everybody's getting, we fight. Of course we got, you know, Brown's got the realist. You know, we out there fighting thousands of people. I'll tell you one thing, I'm sure there was some other Puerto Ricans, but man, it was scarce. I mean, they, they, they, Brooklyn definitely sort of fat Puerto Rican do going all out, fighting everybody.
Starting point is 00:43:27 But it was just, we had to get the fuck up out of there. Bad, though. I mean, you see every, the guard, this one, that one, this, everybody was, shoot shooting past motherfuckers. It was just, they was just way too deep. And we went over there super deep. But I guess that's like the great adventures of like being a kid without a car,
Starting point is 00:43:50 rolling with your projects somewhere, catching the air. Where do you go to with your projects that it got a little bit too? I never lived in the projects, but my neighborhood was just as fucking fucked up as the project. But like Halloween nights, they used to have shits with every one whole side of town and just
Starting point is 00:44:13 mad projects and mad blocks just get together and go somewhere and do some crazy shit. You know, I did that. I used that one time, but I was a young kid hustling, selling drugs. I know that that's not popular to say, I'm not co-signing, but. Better than using them. I remember that's a fact. I remember, right? It was one Halloween
Starting point is 00:44:39 and they had these dudes. I had this little crack spot that was clicking. And these dudes were fucking grown men. Right? You know, I'm only 14, 13, 14. And I got a spot and it's clicking. So these guys were grown men and they came through and they just set up shot in the park.
Starting point is 00:45:01 And they was like, yo, shorthy, man, you're dead. Like, I'm talking. Like, I'm telling you the truth. Yo, you're dead on this shit. Like, come on, man. This. And I'm only like 13, 14. But my projects used to get together for Halloween.
Starting point is 00:45:17 It was hundreds of us. And we go to everybody else's projects with socks, with this. So it happened to be Halloween, right? And they was super deep. And I told everybody, yo, I'm going to give you the signal. Y, y'all come around the corner. Fucked you. Teen, I walk up to these dudes
Starting point is 00:45:43 they grow up in and I'm like, yo, y'all can't pump out here. They're like, what? Like, yo, didn't we tell you with this? I was like, hey, yo! They just came around the corner. The whole project looked like Halloween. They did with socks with this. This thing was like, yo, they were true.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I said, yes. This is my crew. Like, what y'all niggas won out here? Man, them boys left that spot so fast, man. I think the project ain't, I used them to run these guys out of it. These guys were grown men, 30 years old shit. When I say, yo, hundreds of guys came with the face painted, the socks.
Starting point is 00:46:21 They were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we out. Don't worry about it. We won't come back over here no more, this, this, this day. I use Halloween a couple of times. Nah, you know, this shit is all theater. Theater. One time I blocked, we was hustling, because we used to hustle together.
Starting point is 00:46:40 So I lived in the middle of the block. I came out like in the evening one time. Like, no. I'm catching like the sundown shift. So I come out, I probably had a hundred, a couple hundred pieces on me. Come out, dab everybody up, go put my pack in the building. Like two, look, come out. What's up, crack?
Starting point is 00:47:07 Put my, my man there. And this is the crazy. He's Mary's cousin. He's the one who actually passed the demo. It's Jay Bob. My man, Jamalco, he actually passed the demo to Mary that went to puff that got a sign. So fast forward. I come out the crib, shower, ready to knock my work off.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Put it in the middle building up in the elevator thing. Come out two seconds. Somebody, you know, somebody come. They want something. Custy. I go back, it's gone. Now I'm like, my man, I said, Bob, you, there's no way.
Starting point is 00:47:47 It was, when I tell you, was this fat, I came out that, put the pack in the building, went outside them, yo, let me get some. Went back, nothing. Me, yeah, you got my pack? And we almost had, we got down to, like, nose to know. He's like, I don't got your shit. I'm like, you got it.
Starting point is 00:48:06 There's no way. Nobody. I'm not taking no four hands. So we all got heated. They calmed it down. But I still, I can't sleep because I'm like, I went to the house and got some more, but I'm like this,
Starting point is 00:48:23 my whole night was fucked up off. Oh, yeah. So we're chilling a few hours later. Always come, a smoker come out. Did you have them green bags? They're having a party in Debs. I was with, I said, Oh, oh, you.
Starting point is 00:48:38 He was like, who's pumping the game bag? So now we got to the bottom of it. My man, Nut, Obie recipe. He's a lot, peanut? Hobie's alive, baby. We have killed. The peanut stole the shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:51 We have killed them. Nah, you know, I was waiting. He used the baffoom on yourself. We obliterated them when we caught. Let me tell you something. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.
Starting point is 00:49:07 What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was...
Starting point is 00:49:39 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.
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Starting point is 00:52:10 Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I was way too young in the streets doing the shit I was doing. Of course, when I got old, they was like really not fair for people. But I was way too young, so I get it. They was trying me because it was like, yo, this guy's 13, 14. I was here really trying to show this one. I remember, nah, we did some foul shit. He was like this crackhead.
Starting point is 00:52:42 I had him sell for me, but he was seven feet tall, still has size, this, this, that. So he dead me. Oh, he dead at you. Yo, bro, I'm not lying to you. He dead at me. He was like, yo, I ain't got your money. This, this, that. So now I'm like with like three or four of my men's with me, right?
Starting point is 00:53:02 We still all little dudes, though, but. So I'm like, let me tell you, snitching. Never sat right with me. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever sat right with me. And letting somebody get one up on me, never, ever. To this day, I don't think there's somebody who got one up on me, right? Physically meaning it, right? So he's down there, he's pumping, we over here, and I'm telling him, yo,
Starting point is 00:53:31 he beat me for like $100 and he ain't coming next to us and nothing like this. So they was like, word, let's pound them out, God. I'm like, yo, I'm like, yo, let's pound them out, right? So the dude was addicted to gambling. So we went and took like three rocks. We didn't even have dice. We down the block. We act like we gambling.
Starting point is 00:53:52 We throwing the rocks against the shit. See, no, yo, doing whatever. This needs come over. We put the beats on this guy. So body slammed this dude. We pounded them out. So legend. Legend.
Starting point is 00:54:03 And so, you know, where I put in this shit is real was like, one time I went, I went to see my aunt stuck up my cousin. Yeah, come on, man. Come on, cry. Come on. When I put on the shit is real, primo edition, one time I went to see my aunt stuck up my cousin,
Starting point is 00:54:24 right? So now, it wasn't me. I don't want to say nobody business, but one of my, my uncle, he got beat, right? So he gave somebody some work. They didn't pay him back this,
Starting point is 00:54:38 this, that. So he calls me, he says, you know, it's my cousin. This is my uncle. And my cousin was a grown-ass man. I'm 14, 15, right? So my uncle calls me and says, yo, that work you gave me,
Starting point is 00:54:52 our cousin, such and such, he beat you. He talked about he ain't paying. This nigga was way too big for us, like a grown man. My own cousin, right? He did, you know, you're 14, you're trying to give dudes work.
Starting point is 00:55:06 You think you cool. These guys are 20. 30 years old, they don't give a fuck about what you're saying. He was young enough to knock off your own work. Let me tell you what happened. So I walk in, this is a true story. I walk into my aunt's house and that dude is gambling in the hallway. He's my cousin.
Starting point is 00:55:26 We put the beats on him so legend. So legend. In front of the whole hood. He needs a merch that's a so legend. Yo, so legend. He was shooting dice. We pounded him out. to this day, I don't even feel right when I see him at funerals and all that
Starting point is 00:55:42 because he talks to me, but he knows what we did to him. So, no, I'm telling you the truth. I see him. He's my cousin. You know, he spoke at my father's funeral recently. Like, oh, Ernesto was, you know, this. But he caught, he had to, I never let him. I never let him.
Starting point is 00:56:03 There's this guy. Let me tell you something, right? There's this guy. I wrote about it in my book, the book, Jose. This guy, and they know what I'm talking about, I've got to say it because I said it in the thing, but his name was Monkey Face
Starting point is 00:56:16 Carlos. Monkey Face Carlos. He from the Bronx? Was a killer. You hear me? You're from the BX? Yes. He was an alleged killer because I don't know where he's at. But he was there with Chicky for Southern
Starting point is 00:56:30 Boulevard and all these, these guys is the most dangerous crew in the Bronx. Don't let nobody lie to you. These guys, they're underneath the jail. They told the judge told them, please don't, guys, yo, I want to snitch on another body for who. Chicky, please, we're not doing no more tricky stories. Like, we don't want no more about it. Like, they're underneath the jail, right? The realest guys ever in the Bronx. There's just no other way to explain it to, right? He's one of them. So he's going out with a girl from my building, right? So, of course, you know, I'm young. I'm, I got the, so I tell him. I say, yo, monkey, you.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I got some work. He was like, yo, give me $500. What's his name? Monkey Face Carlos. Had the green eyes. They know what I'm talking about. He looked like a monkey, though? No, he was actually a fairly handsome guy, but that was just what they called him.
Starting point is 00:57:23 That was handled. And he was way advanced for me. I'm only 14. He's like, they're putting their work legend out there, right? But he goes with the girl in my building. So I've been calling him and he don't pick up the phone. Right? So he walked out my building, right?
Starting point is 00:57:42 And I ain't going to lie to him. I'm still just a kid, right? So he walked up my building. I'm like, yo, yo, you, Carlos, I've been calling you. He was like, yeah, for what? I was like, you know that shit I gave me? He was like, oh, you dead on that shit. Like that, though, man, I swear to God, man.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Yo, this is crazy. Do they know what they fucking went here, man? I'm like, I'm looking at them. I'm just a kid, but I'm like, He was like, oh, you, you want, oh, you're dead on that shit. And he keeps walking. And I'm watching him. It's turning like, whatever they call that, Twilight, it's turning dark.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And I watch him, while he's walking down the block, I'm talking to myself, my conscience. I said, man, you pussy. This nigger played you. You just suck a nigga. Like, you let this guy beat you. So I'm talking to myself, right? So he gets like a block down almost by Diamond D build it. And I see, yo monkey, he turned around and was like, what?
Starting point is 00:58:44 Say, no, one second, one second. So I'm jogging over there. Down monkey, yo, check this out. I got some work. Boom, I duffed this dude, right? He fall on the floor. Pound him out. Legend.
Starting point is 00:58:59 He's on the floor. Pound it out. And let me tell you something. Thank God he didn't kill me. He didn't come back with the mob. Thank God he didn't do none of that, but. I was so impressed with my courage to stand up to this guy. I could not believe.
Starting point is 00:59:17 He was just what, so I never, you know, there never been the thing to me. You know what I mean? Like to get played like that, get beat, and the snitching, it doesn't exist. Revenge is a dish served however the fuck you want to serve it. That's about smoke. You heard?
Starting point is 00:59:38 Revenge is a what? A dish served however you want to serve. However you wouldn't. Yeah, that's a good one. Revenge is a dish. Serve however you want to serve. Oh, man. Leftovers.
Starting point is 00:59:53 However you want to get your revenge, it was on you. Oh, yeah. I could never live with that, man. I couldn't live with, you know, anybody trying to play with me. I said one time I come out, Jimmy's Cafe. the guy, you know this guy too, I'm telling you this story about. I come out of Jimmy's Cafe.
Starting point is 01:00:14 And I don't know why, because I'm always there, but he come out of jail. I've seen him with y'all. Right? No, I'm just saying. He's not a member of your crew, but I've seen him, but he's a well-respected guy from the Bronx.
Starting point is 01:00:26 He's not pussy. But he looked at me, and he was like, oh, they let chew in the ear? And I'm like, he just came home from jail, right? But all these, oh, my God. So he comes on from jail, right? So I guess he's thinking like, you know, he's tough now or something. And so he's like, oh, they let you in here?
Starting point is 01:00:48 I said, what you mean? And he said, nah, you could still be in the hood. Like, you ain't supposed to be either. So I smack his cheek off in the bathroom. Do. One second. Smack these cheeks. No, I'm telling you, I gave him that fire.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Ah! Boom. Then he tried to act up outside. I finished it off outside and really pounded him out. Legend. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 01:01:15 I ain't seen him for years till I seen the locks with him somewhere. Who are you that? He still think he'd talk. Who is this guy? They'll sue you now if you say the name, right? I don't need to put the streets together. I'll tell you in your ear.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Nah, you was probably like the 10th. Trust me. He wasn't with me. No, he wasn't with y'all. I'm just saying he's considered a real guy. He's just had. He took a real. I'm just telling you the truth.
Starting point is 01:01:41 He called the hell. His sister had to jump in. It was well respected. You know what I'm talking about? In the streets, she jumped in like, Joe, that's my brother. Please know this. And it was that.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I just can't tolerate the disrespect. Like, you know, like I never, let's just get off that subject. They come up with the duos. I was thinking about the best groups, of all time. Groups.
Starting point is 01:02:13 You're not waited today. We did this already, didn't we? No, we did duos. We didn't do groups. Complex did duos. What have we done? Ladies.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Ladies, producers, songs. We ain't do the biggest, the best groups of all time. But there's probably a lot of crossover with duo, though? There's some groups that's duos, and there there's some groups
Starting point is 01:02:38 this groups. I don't think you count them by the... They're running out of shit to make up so they broke down two men groups. Then next day they'll come with three men groups. Then they come with... How about them guys we did the show with... What's the what?
Starting point is 01:02:52 The 520 boys, they brought out the LeBron join. Like, there's some... There's some shits that everybody keep playing into that it's like, that shit never going to get old. You know? You ain't fucking with the groups today. You don't feel. like you. You got the pastel shit on you.
Starting point is 01:03:10 We did the duos. We don't need to do the trios to the next month. Let's do something else. Top three posse cuts of all time. We can do five, but you know this guy don't want to do it. We can do five. Five top five. Long as they know is all of you.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Why is it on me? All I'm doing is participate. This shit is him. Yeah. Yeah, but I got to let it be known that he's with me. This is my business partner. Don't let him just... He's going to get me fucked up at a Rock the Bell's concert.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I'm going to get pounded out. Things are going to pound me out at a rock. They're going to see the next little fucking what they do when they do them little cartoons, what they call that shit. Sketches. They're going to show Joe running from the Rock the Bells concert. Rock him ready to hit me with a stick or something. Top five posse.
Starting point is 01:04:07 You want to start or I start? I go first. Oh, I knew you wanted to go first. You got to go first. I knew you wanted to go first on this one. Stop the violence. Number one. Stop the violence?
Starting point is 01:04:21 No, help this. Self destruction. Self destruction. I'm going with that. I'll get that out the way first. Bing, bang. I never knew why we never had a self-destruction too. They needed, but the little kid got killed from Philly.
Starting point is 01:04:35 He did it over. Self-destruction, the scenario remix. I could have took both. What's that when we- We heard? You say, oh, no. It's when you heard, you say, oh, no, you. Cool.
Starting point is 01:04:55 All right, when I got, self-destruction, scenario remix. I'm cooking with fucking greets right now. Right now, you're out of control. The symphony. That was going on my list. He ain't got them leaving you with nothing. That's three. I'm leaving them with nothing.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I ain't going to lie to you. He took my, that's my number one. He said nothing. You started it. It's okay. That's my number one. He started it. Don't say no numbers.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I got two more left. I'm just telling you I would have went. That was on the top of my list. Cinerio. He fucked up my own life. He fucked up my own life. Now I'm going to give you. Don't give them.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I'm not even going to use me. I'm going to use you. I'll let you use me. Verbal intercourse, right? I'm going to fall. Yeah. I'm smoking now in. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:05:56 You're doing it. Now I'm coming back. The symphony. I didn't think you was going to do that. It's getting out of hand. What's my four right now? Self-destruction. Scenario, symphony, verbal winter course.
Starting point is 01:06:10 And this, let me finish it off with a... I shot you. Bing bap, bha, bha, bha, bha. It put me in the game, I shot you. That's fine. That's fine. I shot you. Self-destruction.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Scenario remix, the symphony. A piece of shit. What was the thing? In verbal win. I left shit's out for you. Yeah, I left you, shit. I'm going Benjamin's. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Then I'm going live at the barbecue. Then I'm going ban from TV. Then he's going brain freak. It's more shit, though. I'm just looking. Hold on. Don't give us this. Stay honest.
Starting point is 01:07:03 I know what it is. It's John Blaze right off to that. It's one of the other. I know what it is. Don't say nothing. It is what it is. I know what it is. What's the list?
Starting point is 01:07:14 I'm in three of his five. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm in three of them. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I love him to death. You are one of the greatest rappers in fucking Cyphus ever created. Finish your five. You fucking took my shit.
Starting point is 01:07:27 You were banned on TV. Tell me a guy. Now, he got three. And he got John Blaz. I got Alzheimer's. John Blaze. John Blase. John Blach, Ben from TV, and the Benjiments.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And, and. Oh, so you got four. You need one more. Yeah, that's a tough one. That's where I'm stuck in the reservoir. I'm stuck in muddy waters. You just said it. You just said it.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Hold up. Wait a minute. I might as well put me in five with my fourth. Make me four out of five, man. Let me give you one. Reservoir dogs. The thing is done starting something. It's mad though.
Starting point is 01:08:05 I guess what you want. Yeah, but you know what I'm thinking of. Yeah, I want to keep flavoring your air. Flavis. Your Air Remix. That's it. That's it. That's the five.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Those is good five. What's my five again? Because this guy took all the... Yo, put the thing on this post when you put it off. You know, Flavor in your air remix. You don't. I get more butt than ass-chaise. Fuck a fair one.
Starting point is 01:08:26 The ass scheme ass way. Damn, and they... Do you know? Do you know... Fall from Hanson? A little birdie told me that verse that big just talking about Craig Mac on his own song. I heard about that.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Nah, I heard about it. Shout out the curse. rest of peace. With that first style, you're bound to get dropped. You're bound to get dropped. Damn. I mean, the same thing happened with cannabis and L.L. When he put him on that other joint.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Yeah, that was a great song, but I don't think it makes the type. I don't think it makes the first five, like when he said the first five scenario. And then, you know, that was a good one, but that wasn't, that wasn't a shot. It wasn't, um, but that cannabis L.L. battle, who you thought was winning, that at the prime of that battle right there. I didn't like, that was the start of our demise of with this comparison shit, because it's a young, a young aspiring rapper to be, have a career going that battle with the first person I ever signed a death jam.
Starting point is 01:09:31 It's not right. We should have never let that happen. That was a flag. But we, we like negative and we like, controversy so much. He went to the army. He went military? Yeah. Cannabis went to the military.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Sitting my man to the military, man to the military, man, he's super nice. If there was anybody, the Big Pum wanted to smoke with it was cannabis. Why didn't want to smoke with cannabis? No, because, you know, Hunt respected him.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Blinky Blink went, left Harlem, went to his out and released. police party and Julio them. On cannabis? Yeah. What for? He was an L.O. He said his name.
Starting point is 01:10:17 He said he's something about him in the rhyme. He went to his album party and dumped him. Went to his album. He never liked the K.R.S. 2 PM Doran off the stage. I used to love P.M. Doer, bro. I didn't like that. There were certain shits that we didn't like. He wasn't supposed to say nothing about Chris, though, man, to teach it, man.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Did he say something about Chris P.m. Dawn? He had to. he went on stages to power would throw his ass off. He had to do some serious violation for him to do that.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Damn. God without you. He used to love that shit. Right? PM Dorn had knocked, though. P. M. Dorn was the shit, bro. Yo, I fucked with P. F. Dorn.
Starting point is 01:11:00 He passed away. He passed away. Rest of peace. P. M. Dorn. I remember Finesse had the beef with my man's, the funky man over there. in Jersey.
Starting point is 01:11:12 I live for the funk. I died for the... Mr. Funky. Him and Finesse had a rap battle. Yeah, they're super cool. No, they're mad cool. Sometimes I was just for 50 Cent. We got all that...
Starting point is 01:11:26 Had all that history with him. You know, you respect people when you go to war with them. And you see, like, you're like, damn. And then, you know, 50 Cent just told me this shit too many. You said, you know, the beef was never with you. He said, you're just too loyal. You said, you two lawyer you and you just took
Starting point is 01:11:42 their side because you made music with him. But I swear to God, he just told me this one day ago. He was like, yo, I never really had real beef with you. It was just, you know, you jump. And then somebody told me, think about it now, somebody told me like I try to get two rappers to squash your beef, big time rabbits. I had one ready to squash it, and this ain't 50 cent, y'alloo.
Starting point is 01:12:08 I have one ready to squash it. I went to see the other in this house. And you know what he told me? Yo, Joe, why would I squash this? Because every time I just say their name or dis and I go viral. There's no way I'm going to squash that. You believe that people keep problems because they know if they say your name, they're going viral automatically.
Starting point is 01:12:34 And so the guy told me, why would I squash the beef? Every time I want to go viral, I just say, fuck these guys. Yo, the game is fucked up, man. That's crazy. The chemistry of the game is crazy. But, I mean, think about it, right? You know what I'm saying? We started with Jimmy and then now he's on a world tour about, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:58 I don't think Nas even responded, right? He responded with a casino. He responded with a casino. That was bad, yo. He responded with a casino. Do you know what 1% of a casino is? 2025? I'm sure he got more than that.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I'm just saying, yeah, he responded with a casino. We're going to wrap up with that. Yeah, let me tell you some. He responding with a casino? We at Rock Nation. We at Rock Nation. Every time I thought I had some for Jay-Z, he'd be like out in Monaco where the grapes or $5,000 to eat.
Starting point is 01:13:37 I'd be like, yo, this guy, he's just, The word that I step on is a million dollars. I'm like, yo, we can't say shit about this guy. That was Wansbill. Sheesh. The most ever spent the indictment. Indictment. On Ais and Space.
Starting point is 01:13:53 That was Wansbill. I mean, I think Noss took a page out of his hose book with this one when he just said, okay, perfect time and you promoted the casino. Here you go. And on that note, we're the biggest in the motherfucking game. Joe crack. Hold on. What is it? It's crack.
Starting point is 01:14:14 It's kiss. This ain't that. That ain't this. You know what it is. It's cracked and a kiss. And the motherfucking train is coming. Let me tell you something, man. Y'all see what's going on out there, man.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Y'all say, subscribe. Do whatever you want to do. Like, share, subscribe. That damn. You see, so you do know what's going on out there. I don't know why you never said like share, subscribe. I don't know why you think I'm on the rock. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Let me tell you something, man. Like, share, subscribe. Whatever the fucking shit is. Listen, it's the inevitable. If y'all want smoke, get at us. If you don't, it is what it is. But the train keep coming, baby. The train.
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