The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss share UNTOLD stories of Tupac, The Notorious B.I.G., Big Pun & more rap legends

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss devote today’s episode to discussing Jim Jones’ recent take that being a rapper is the most dangerous job in the world. Joe and Jada share stories they have surroundin...g several gone-to-soon hip hop legends like Tupac, The Notorious B.I.G., Big Pun, Big L, and more. Jada tells Joe about how he and The Lox were on their first trip to Los Angeles on the fateful night that Biggie died, and Joe shares a wild story of himself and Big Pun getting into trouble in LA and bringing protection that year’s Grammy Awards. They also discuss Joe’s falling out with Justin Bieber, Tory Lanez getting attacked in jail, their top-five hip hop producers, as well the untimely passings of recent hip hop stars like Nipsey Hussle and Pop Smoke. Joe and Jada give advice to the younger generation of rappers on how to stay healthy and out of trouble. 03:00 - Is hip hop the most dangerous job?  08:00 - Jada on Biggie, Joe & Pun at the Emmys 26:00 - Joe's falling out with Justin Bieber 36:00 - How Joe & Jada met Tupac  41:45 - Streaming scams artists 51:00 - Advice for younger generation 56:30 - Top 5 producers (Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.) Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://promo.boostmobile.com/webuiltanetwork/ytb/ #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:19 to a statement that our brother, Jim Jones said a while back that just stood with me forever. He said, hip hop is the most dangerous job in the world. Do you agree with that or disagree?
Starting point is 00:03:36 What are your thoughts with that? And then we'll take it from there. Hip-hop is definitely not hip-hop. Being an artist, and a hip-hop artist, producer, whatever, what have you. It's very dangerous. Definitely one of the top most dangerous jobs you can have. You should have top five dead or alive. You know, I'd be seeing guys out there fishing for lobsters and dudes doing putting tar on the floor in Phoenix and 100 degrees.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Why he got a meat so? What, we, I'm just trying, I'm trying to paint the picture of some serious jobs out there, but Tar on the floor, Phoenix. Top on the, it's hard. It's hard as fucking seen. The worst job I ever seen,
Starting point is 00:04:24 it was Phoenix 130 degrees and the guy was dressed like a hot dog. And he had one of these. Here we go again. Here we go again. The man had a hot dog suit on. It must have been the AC in there. Because, yo, listen, he was flipping.
Starting point is 00:04:41 You know how they do the arrow? Like, yo, hot dogs this way. It's crazy. Yo, I'm telling you, that was a dangerous job to me. It's so hot of Phoenix. I see the steam coming up off the floor. And I looked at the guy with the hot dog uniform. I say, yo, my man, like this is, it's some crazy jobs out there.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Some law enforcement and say they got the hardest job. People shooting at them every day, whatever the case. but hip hop you know they bring you up they glorify you break you down break you down and then and then the hate sets in
Starting point is 00:05:17 and what I've known in my studies of hip hop with violence is you and me maybe you're a little bit less because you know you want to the most loved rapists in the world but the chances all will be murdered in Junkers or in the
Starting point is 00:05:36 Bronx before Compton or Chicago or something like that. It's always where you from, where people think they know you that much, and they got the real jealousy and envy. You see Nipsey Hustle, the guy who killed him, he's in pictures standing behind Nipsey Hustle. We could do that with all the hip-hop. Jam Master J was set up by his own friends, right? So what is it that where you from?
Starting point is 00:06:05 and we go, you represent Yonkers across the world. We represent, I represent the Bronx to the moon. Why is it they want to kill me in the Bronx more than anywhere else? Why they want to do it to you, where you from? I think, do out all the hate you can receive is nothing more than where you came from. I mean, as much as they love you, they hate you, I think, 10 times more. because they feel like they really know you opposed to all the demographics of the world.
Starting point is 00:06:40 You know what I mean? There's dudes in the BX that's like, I know that name before you when he was just regular Joey or whatever it is. And then that sets in and it turns into a thing that keeps growing. It's like a hate cancer.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And then it spreads. And then it, you know what I mean? And then I know what it is because as much as they see people happy for you, that shit makes the hate cancer spread even more. Then they're able to spread it
Starting point is 00:07:11 to some other dudes that feel like that and then it stays crazy. So what you're saying is... A couple funerals, though. A couple funerals, a couple of... Moodles. Shits like, yeah, a couple of murals, couple funerals, mummy raps,
Starting point is 00:07:27 shit like that. And then it goes back down. You know, I start with Skylar Rock. I was just a teenager. Wow, Preston Pins to Scholar Rock. I was just a teenager playing basketball. I was in my grandmother's block of Washington Avenue to 9.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And it just was like this before Instagram guys, before social media. And it was just like, yo, yo, Scott LaRot, got shot, he got killed, Skylar Rock. BDP was everything to me. And yeah, we grew up violent, but that hurt me because I was like, these was the guys, putting on for a neighborhood and couldn't believe somebody killed them, senseless murder. Which was the one that,
Starting point is 00:08:10 at all the hip-hop, which is the one that got you and you was like, wow. Like, I can't believe this happened. By far, for me, it's big. My first time, the locks, it was our first time in L.A. And Big got killed. So you know what?
Starting point is 00:08:26 He was at the party. We was with him before the day before. You know, we was in his, like, the happiest time and the saddest time at one time. Did you not feel like
Starting point is 00:08:37 it was dangerous being in LA and he had the East Coast West Coast beef? I felt it was dangerous, but we really
Starting point is 00:08:45 didn't know how to, you know what I'm saying? We, we, we know what was really going on. We knew that shit
Starting point is 00:08:51 was going on, but we didn't, we never been there. We thought we was heavily protected. We thought we was good. I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:00 we thought we was the same way. I mean, we kind of, kind of was because we was with we had bad boy in we had D and them we had a different kind of um even engaged with us we had extra yeah shout out to D and ice pick J you know they saved my life ice big J you saved my life one time I heard that story that's a real story they was going to get me and you know I had a lot of beef with the West Coast I'm probably and we're not stirring nothing up
Starting point is 00:09:25 but I'm probably the only rapper from New York that had physical beef with the West Coast like real physical war, it went down, right? So when I go over there, me and punt out there for the Grammys, there's a million cop cars in the street. And, you know, it was like gang beef. So they had a guy with Jerry Curls, a bubble goose. It was hot as hell. And the gun was to his, I don't know how there's one million cops out here.
Starting point is 00:09:58 They don't see the guy, old dog from the fucking. menace to society, like the man in the middle of the street dripping the fucking Jerry Carroll juice with a machine gun with a bubble goose on in the summer. And we don't rat, but I'm looking like, Jesus Christ, don't nobody see. And he looked at me like he could not go back to the hood without clapping fat Joe. Not clapping, killing me. He had a machine gun. And so it's a million cops out there. I fucked up because we had the mansion. We had strip. We had. We knew whatever was going to happen, you know, don't go out over there and we still, like, dummies, went out. Shout out my brother, Tone, patrol, held it down, all of us.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And so I'm sitting out there and the guy's there. There's a girl standing next to me and she sees what's going on. And she looks at me and says, a girl from New York, she said, no, I'm sorry. She was like, Joe, I'm sorry. I'm sorry this is happening to you. like she could probably see like death in my face. Like the guy was, he was trying to figure out how to shoot me
Starting point is 00:11:05 and get away from the 1,000 cops, but he couldn't go back to his hood without shooting me. So he was like, he looked like a dog in rage and then out of nowhere the door opens and D comes out. And D comes out. He's like, yo, crack, what's up, this and that?
Starting point is 00:11:21 And I looked at him, I said, yo. I just nodded to head. D from the Rough Riders, he looks over there. Ketu. The general looks over there, he looks back and he said, that's for you crap. I said, yeah, it's for me.
Starting point is 00:11:38 He said, yo, Ice Pick is going to turn this corner in a white van. Y'all better just get in there, get out of here, right? So the van pull up. Ice pick ain't even know he was saving us, right? He was coming around to get deep. The van pull up. We got in that bitch, like the fucking painting
Starting point is 00:11:57 from Good Times. You remember Good Times? They had to sit where everybody was dancing sideways and shit like that. Good time. Like, yo, we slid in that motherfucker. Yo, God was with us. It was crazy. It was like six or seven of us.
Starting point is 00:12:11 We got in that bitch and left in the van and looked back. That guy was so confused. He didn't know where the fuck we went because it was like too crowded. We got in the van. I was like, yo, I said, thank you. He saved my life. You don't understand this. He was like, what happened?
Starting point is 00:12:26 I said, yo, d'nigger, the machine got. They're ready to close. Clap us. This D told us to get in there. So he took us to the mansion, which a couple of blocks away after that, we said, we went to the Grammys with guns on us.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Me and Big Pun, that picture that you see us looking like superheroes, we actually had hammers on us in the Grammys because that was too much. We stepped outside. The point is the danger, you know, is always there. I think of Big Hell, right? Best in peace, they big out.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah, yeah. I'm saying he would not hurt a fly. Big El Gamble, rhymed, have fun, never bothered the human being in his life. He loved the ladies. He loved the ladies.
Starting point is 00:13:11 He chilled. He was funny. My little brother, and they murdered him on the block that he talked about in every one of his rallies. 139. I remember rushing up there
Starting point is 00:13:24 when they told me I was at D&D. Cam and them was outside. I'm outside. They still got the body on the floor. Right. And so he got murdered on his block. Same thing with Jam Master Jay. And so you say to yourself, you say, you know, we work so hard to bet ourselves.
Starting point is 00:13:45 At the end of the day, you got something to say, you rap, you want to rap about whatever you want to rap about, you want to show the world you're the best rapper. Then obviously we get financially smart and we see that there's money out here and we figuring out how to do this. I think backer in the day was more celebrated. Backer. Yeah, I like that word. Backer in the day, old school, it was more celebrated.
Starting point is 00:14:10 So we saw the hustlers, we seen everybody showing their shit off and they inspired us. But over the years with social media and all that, I think it's like bittersweet because it's more people looking at you with jealous eyes and hatred. That's definitely,
Starting point is 00:14:27 I think technology, definitely plays a part of it because before you, it was just, you were here of the boy, George's and whoever it is that was in Queens or Harlem. It was, you might can see him if you could make it to the feeble, or one of them parties on a rooftop or some shit. Like if you could, you might have a chance to get a glimpse to somebody, but other than that,
Starting point is 00:14:51 you just heard who was getting busy in the Bronx or Iowa or Queens, Brooklyn. and it then put the hate, the hate cancer couldn't spread. Now you can just scroll down and the switch can hit on. Any social media platform, you know what I mean? You can look on Facebook, you can go on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok. They can create the own narrative of hate now. Somebody can just say, I don't like fat Joe, and just make a whole page and a whole shit on you.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Tell me about it. Couldn't do that back in the way. That happens. Yeah. It happens to all. It happens to everybody, huh? And what's crazy is if we take it to modern day, skip a couple of errors, these kids are like getting murdered on video.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Like Nipsy also got, I think the thing's on video now, crack. That's the old anything. Everybody even's going like this. Or is the eye in the sky? That pole has a camera that goes to the White House. The leaves on that trees is it. connected to Albany. It's really no fucking way
Starting point is 00:15:59 to do anything right now opposed to back in the days. You had to see somebody somewhere passing that Jew man or in the train station or sneaker store club and then it would go down and if he wasn't there
Starting point is 00:16:10 or nobody got killed or if they did, it just happened. Now, before your family, you know, the whole world is crazy. Where I walked the track at Kensacodden,
Starting point is 00:16:24 one day as an old lady, she's working out. She's coming down. I'm going up. A elderly lady that's working out is coming down. Two young chicks is coming down. The lady, because the stairs is tilted a little, the lady tripped, loses a fluidity and goes off to the side.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Oh, to the woods, grandma. Now the girls is in front of me. I'm thinking they're going to go get her. First thing they do, phone. Me, you know, you're crazy? I go help her up, dust, all. curse them out a little bit, keep going up to stand.
Starting point is 00:16:58 But I'm like, this is a shame. This lady was 70-some, 80-some years old. One thing I take pride in, right? Privacy. No, no, I take pride in is that just like you, no matter how successful we are, we move around in the hood and get a lot of respect. And so one thing I love doing
Starting point is 00:17:19 is supporting the community and supporting the local businesses. So whether it's Melbourne's in Harlem, or the Bahillo and East Tremont in the Bronx the Puerto Rican restaurant. I'm in there. Pharmacy for life and Scarsden. Pharmacy for life.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I mean, juices for life. Of course. White playing. But what I'm saying to you is one day I'm in East Tremont in the Bohillo. And two people starting to get down. My daughter, I can't lie to you, she little house on the prairie.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah, they can't imagine none of the shit we've been through. No. They don't know none of that shit. We've seen this regular guys arguing over elevated or whatever. She don't know. And she's just like, and we in the hood.
Starting point is 00:18:00 When she looked like Little House on the Prairie, a little fur, white hat. They knew this girl ain't from around here, right? But two girls start arguing
Starting point is 00:18:09 they about the fight. They're in the Puerto Rican joint, you know, one of my favorites and I'm eating. And like a 7080 old lady got up, pulled out her camera
Starting point is 00:18:21 and said, World Star, World Star. 80, your old lady. Got up and then through the camera in my face because I'm in the building. She got to get you. Yeah, that's going up on hits.
Starting point is 00:18:34 No, this is like 80. You getting Joe crack on them. Shut up, my thinkie barber. She knows what time it is. You get in the car. She knows every young person's raps. Like I met your aunt in City Island. She was telling me records and raps.
Starting point is 00:18:49 On Nasey. She loved Nellie. I mean, but she was selling me, yo, the cold rocks. She was throwing words, so I knew she loved hip hop. My aunt's like that too, but I don't think my aunt going to get up and go world star. Yeah. Like the lady got up and said, what, yo, I had a moment with myself.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I sat there, I said, yo, this she's just fucking going. It's like the Maury show on the streets. It never turns off. It never turns off. That's another thing why I say we had the best ever in music because we had privacy. all of the memories or shit that happened and got to stay in the brain
Starting point is 00:19:28 you know what I mean? It was not a bunch of soon as they sent something mad phones go out man let me tell you something they murdered Nipsey Hustle on video they murdered anybody on video
Starting point is 00:19:43 damn there the last year since shit was in technology you know what I'm saying yo Jada we should do a podcast on on how dangerous hip-hop is
Starting point is 00:19:57 it's like the voice hit their Instagram and immediately the first thing I did I opened Instagram and they got the young brother in Detroit two days ago, Skiller. Skillab baby. And they shoot at him 25 times. He'd get hit a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Three. They hit him three times. I go up a little bit more. I see my man Rod Wave who sings nothing for positive. He was the first one that almost got it right. He was saying, I'm a retire, I made enough money, go chill with my family. He gets arrested for all type of felonies and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I believe he's innocent. I just believe he's innocent, right? But in hip-hop, why does it feel like, you know, I always thought of, yo, we got in this game to get about the dangers of the hood or better our lives and better our community. not friends or whatever the case may be, but why there's always some shit where you're not official? Ever signed up for a phone plan thinking, wow, great price.
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Starting point is 00:22:06 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.
Starting point is 00:22:19 But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you
Starting point is 00:23:13 funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris, every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay.
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Starting point is 00:25:19 Justin Bieber. Justin Bieber. You don't know more? No, Justin Bieber we do every now and then. But Justin Bieber, I'm going to tell you what fucked me up with Justin Bieber. Justin Bieber gets arrested just driving crazy around Miami. Raul rest in peace calls me up and says,
Starting point is 00:25:40 yo, they're looking for somebody to bail out Justin Bieber. It wasn't no money. It was nothing. A couple of hundred dollars or thousand dollars. We used rich players girl to bail them out. So I bail out Justin Bieber, $100. There is no real money. This is an ill story.
Starting point is 00:25:54 No, no, that's ill. It's because it was in Miami. He didn't have no money at the time? No, he got money, but he ain't no criminal. I'm trying to get to the point. We bail a man out. Hold on. He's young.
Starting point is 00:26:09 You bailed out Justin B. Be rich and fucked it. He always been rich. No, what happens is we all got friends in common, and they was like, we're not from here. They didn't know about that. He didn't know about that. Which player at the time was dating Damari, the bail bondsman.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And so we just got, it was about nothing. I'm trying to tell you I'm not trying to get caught off of this. This is nothing. The problem is he calls me to thank me and start saying, yo, I'm a gangster now.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Since he got arrested? Oh shit. Nah. He was in traffic? What did he got arrested for? Speeding. Right? But he started telling me
Starting point is 00:26:47 he's a gangster, Joe. I went to jail at this. I say, yo, Justin, listen, bro. You got to stop. Like this. Not straight up. You gotta stop. Like, we don't want you gangster.
Starting point is 00:26:59 We want you singing, baby, baby. This, and I think he took, I think if I were to gas him, like some of these OG gang guys gassed the young kids, he'd have been like fat Joe, but I hit him with the, yo, we don't want you on the news, bro. We don't want you getting arrested.
Starting point is 00:27:16 We want you to succeed your Justin Bieber. My daughter worships you. We all love you. And that kind of messed up my relationship with him at that moment because he really was like, He wasn't trying to hear that shit. Nah, he felt like, you know, yo, this guy, you know, I'm the fun killer, fucked up the moment.
Starting point is 00:27:33 The problem is we can't glorify going to jail or getting arrested and these rap is acting like it's some sexy shit because I know that the most I was intimidated, right? I walk into jail, right? And I'm not scared of nobody. And I swear to you, Jeter, you will not see. I'm not scared of no man. Not even the boogeyman? Not the boogeyman either.
Starting point is 00:28:02 But I walk in this jail and there's 2,000 guys, Aryan nation, Jamaicans, Haitians, Puerto Ricans. They all cocked diesel. The shit is like the movie medal. And when they see me, it's like the Game of Thrones, the dragon without fire. They're like, ha, they scream like, And like, I never heard no shit like this.
Starting point is 00:28:25 It's almost like a hundred motorcycles screeching and went, they jump from all over. I'm like, I'm, fat Joe before rap, rapper walk up in that jail. He fooled. I already know walking up in there. I said, oh, man, somebody going to run up on me real quick with a knife talking about, yo, you got to pay whatever, whatever. And I actually got intimidated.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And while I'm walking to myself, I've got to talk to myself. And I never got to talk to myself. I do it every day. No, no, no. I talk to myself. You talk to myself like, yo, Joe, you ain't pussy. Don't fall of this shit.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yo, Joe, don't let niggas play you. Like, I'm walking to myself, giving myself a prep talk in my mind because it's 2,000 guys screaming at one guy. I'm not even from there. It's not New York. It's not,
Starting point is 00:29:20 I'm in Miami. So I don't even know one person in there. You did time in Miami. FDC, yeah, because they threw the change up. I'm supposed to go to New York. Now, this is the bragging part. I had 300 guys waiting for me in every jail in New York. Legendary.
Starting point is 00:29:37 You know, give his speeches. When he come through here, this, we had that. Albanians, whatever you name, they was all waiting for Joe Crack in the jails in New York and Jersey. I'm being honest. In jail bit. No, I'm being honest with you. You're the hell of this thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Last minute, on a Saturday, I'm thinking the borough of prisons is hearing all this shit. It's switching shit. Send him down there because he lived right down there. They sent me the rusty-ass dirty building. I'm like, oh, my God. So I had to walk up in there. The point is it's intimidating you being an artist going in jail.
Starting point is 00:30:13 We talk about Torrey Lanes. They was not playing with Torrey Lanes. I do not know when you get two lungs collapse, they stab you in your head, stab you in your chest, they try to really murder Tory Lane's. Right? It's nothing cute about it.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I don't care how you look at it, but why Torrey Lane's? Why you think he, at all the prisoners, had to get stabbed up 14 times and all that? Sure, he ain't the only person who got stabbed up over there, Yeah, I understand that. Over there is probably
Starting point is 00:30:52 crazier than any jail you can think of. As far as gang shit. You know what I mean? I knew that when he went in there. And the guy that stabbed him is a kill is it already in there for doing crazy. He was already a killer.
Starting point is 00:31:06 He was playing with... Remy does eight years in her prime. In her prime, leanback's number one, this that she goes through eight years. They sent her with murderers. And ain't that much female
Starting point is 00:31:21 prisons over there, though, isn't it? She was in bed. She went to bed for the... Yeah, they could have sent her to the Martha Stewart. They sent it to where all these girls got murderers. But she wasn't federal,
Starting point is 00:31:30 or she was state, though. She was state. But, and I'm asking... She was in the real. She was in the trenches. Yeah, she was in the trench. And really fighting chicks the size of Aja
Starting point is 00:31:41 from fucking Vegas. You know, Remi was like, yo, we had to squabble up. No, I'm just saying, You know, I'm being honest. She had to fight fucking Brutus and shit like that. Like she was like, what?
Starting point is 00:31:55 What you said about me? All right, let's go. You know, but they, it wasn't cute. They put her with the murderers. Some people do time and they go to a camp. They go to this, they do that.
Starting point is 00:32:08 They do her because her crime was with violence with a bunch of murders. Torrey Lane, because this shit was violence. And so rappers out there, If you're watching this and you want to learn anything, there is no... They're not playing with rappers. Club med a spot in this mind.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Big Pun thought they were fucking swimming pools and tennis for rappers. That's not happening. They got a big knife for your ass when you go in there and they're cutting you or you're going to learn the extortion game really, really fast in jail. Stay out of it.
Starting point is 00:32:41 It's not the plan for me. We go on, pop smoke. man was so talented. He was the next superstar from New York City. He was going to be a superstar. He posted the address where he was at
Starting point is 00:32:56 off of a merry bag or something though that's back connected to technology and hip-hop. You couldn't. That would never happen if you're over on Rodeo going crazy with the bag. When you get back to your suite,
Starting point is 00:33:12 you're not going to post it. Not going to post when you just bought. and have the address on it. So, it's a messed up situation. I believe the part of smoke was murdered. I believe it was a hit job. No, he was definitely murdered,
Starting point is 00:33:25 but they got the drop of where he was at. Yeah, but they didn't take his jury. They didn't take his money. They came in there and killed them. I'm not saying social media got them to know where he was at, which we didn't have, which saved a lot of rapists from however. We try to do that a lot now,
Starting point is 00:33:43 like not post what we had on real time. and get up out of there and post after because guys like P&B Rock, you know, posted he's in Rosco's Wafing Chicken. And you said... Yeah, well, my first time in L.A. is when Big got killed, but when they give you the laws from not being in L.A. And you go to that Rosco's is that they tell you never go to that one.
Starting point is 00:34:10 So I mean, when they told us, we... We never went there. It was erased from my brain. to ever even think about going. And then fast forward all these years later after the success of P&B. He just thought he could just go there with his girl and have a meal.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You know what I mean? They murdered him that. It's fucked up. I wonder if they told them that Rascals is forbidden or he just didn't, you know, he just wanted to go have some food with his grill wherever he wanted to go. And unfortunately, that happened.
Starting point is 00:34:42 But they definitely told us, This is this and this. And this specific, if you want to go to Rosco's, there's one or two that you should go to. But this one right here, don't ever go there unless you would. Don't ever go. Don't matter who you would.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Just don't go to them. Don't go. Tupac Chacon, one of the most prolific rappers in the world. I think the realest rap in the world ever. Just my opinion, right? Every time I've seen Tupac, if we're talking violence and we're talking that, he was in some shit
Starting point is 00:35:16 every single time I laid the eyes on him I look at him yo you seen such and such pulling out the hammer in the middle of the club yo over here it was bootlaking
Starting point is 00:35:25 tapes he beat up like 25 Africans on 125 I'm watching him broad daylight putting in work everywhere I go
Starting point is 00:35:34 and I met him he had a red bandana with two guns I didn't even know who it was I'm in Atlanta he come up yo crap
Starting point is 00:35:41 I don't know who he is I'm looking met the man is there. We're in the cipher. It's one of them conferences. He pulled out. Yo, it was pot. That's how I meant. Two Pock's your call. The first time I've seen him was in Atlanta, too, at Jack the Rapp.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Did he have two guns? That's where I was at, Jack the Rapper. Jack the Rapper. He didn't do that to you. No, I didn't. Did it to me. Right? Right. When you talked about, I was there. I wasn't. I was the same one. It had to be the same one. The girl was like, I've seen your age on the cake. I thought you was way younger.
Starting point is 00:36:12 You was at the Jack the Rapper. The same one. just going to put me at every event. You was at the same one. I thought you was like 10 years behind me. Man, now I'm just everywhere. You was at. You was at the fever. You was at the fresh.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Listen, you was there. Listen, we was at the motherfucker in hotel. And the girl kept going, death row in the house. Long Beach. Colton. The girl that was in the chronic. She was singing that shit out there.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That froze in the house. Long Beach. beach. And I was like, you know, we just kept making the scene that, but Tupac pull up. My point is, he gets locked up. Let's just say to white people in the record label, no matter how much he was selling, no matter how much we seen him on TV, no matter what, they did not go in that bag to bail him out. This is the number one rapper at the time. You couldn't escape Tupac. Tupac was on the news. He was on everything. He was selling so many millions of records. They did not bail this man out.
Starting point is 00:37:15 It took Shug Knight to come from L.A. to bail out. Tupac. That's how he got signed the death row. Right? So if you think the record label's coming to bail you out, you know, I know they support you at the beginning or whatever. You got Lil Dirk right now.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Little Dirk is facing life. Right? If you think he's thinking, I don't know, man, God bless him if he's thinking the record label. I don't know about none of that shit. But fast forward to things. times from Pac to dirt he's making mad off he got mad he's trying to put up mad
Starting point is 00:37:49 M's buildings all he's still they're denying his bill thus far but Pac they didn't have that they'll put up so man listen is it like a how you feel about that with the times because as big as Pac was he should have had you don't think he should have been able to get
Starting point is 00:38:06 out without his back it goes he didn't have it no but you just said he was everywhere on the news He was, but he didn't have that bag. He didn't have that bag or he would have him bailed himself out. He didn't have the money to bail himself out. Sometimes we're living day by day.
Starting point is 00:38:23 We just living by different Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why is it lost in the situation? Because dirt got the money and he can't get out. You think you check to check. You work and every day check to check. We check to check. If we're buying $300,000 watches, house, homes,
Starting point is 00:38:39 and everywhere, we check to check. That's why you got to keep working. That's why you got to keep working. Everybody is so rich and why they fucking still working. You gotta fucking work. When I see Smokey Robinson and all the motherfuckerskin still at Vegas and Lionel Richie.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I just see Rod Stewart about to do something. He's 180. All right. So what does that mean? Does that mean that they love to do it? Or does it mean like, you got to pay the bill? You got kids in college. You got all type of fucking mortgages.
Starting point is 00:39:10 You got car notes. You got shit like. I mean, guys, 80 years old, still performing touring. I mean, just two days ago was Patty LaBelle. Yeah, my mom went there. I would have went, my mom in the way. I was in Vegas stuck. I had a show.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Patty LaBelle, my girl, Stephanie Bills. Glad it's night. Shocker Con. Come on. That's a must-see TV. But either they're doing it for the love and the passion, or they still got to get the money to pay these bills. Because these bills just keep coming.
Starting point is 00:39:40 The bills don't stop. The bills don't stop. The bills keep. coming. I don't care. The bills is coming now. The pills is coming now. The train is coming. And so what happens is, I don't care how much money we make. It's almost
Starting point is 00:39:53 like shampoo. The shit just slipped through your fingers. I'm not safe. No, I'm keeping it real with you. I am not safe with no amount of money. You don't know how many times I made a million dollars and that shit was gone in like a month or two. And it's just regular shit.
Starting point is 00:40:08 You know, pay the lawyer. Pay your insurance. Pay this. Repeat. Just this, that. And then you turn around and it's like, yo, where's the bread? Yo, bro. You know, Louis Vuitton ain't cheap, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:22 All that shit you're doing out here looking cute. It ain't cheap. And so there's always a check to check. I don't care how much money you make. It blows my mind. When I'm sitting down, I'm like, yo, I just made a million dollars last month. How the fuck you telling me the Amexville
Starting point is 00:40:40 that this, this, this, this, this, just them washed up. two quarters of the shit, like real quick. And you thinking you were in the fucking, when I was in the projects, I thought I could buy a fucking cloud with a million dollars.
Starting point is 00:40:54 A cloud. Like, I'd be like, yo, I could buy me a cloud. A million dollars? You're looking at the fucking car, too. They're going a million dollars. They was acting like you could buy the whole bronze of that shit.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Check this out, though. Fast forward. We started from cassettes. Now it's all way to eye clouding on your music is and lives in the sky. How the fuck is it with all of this streaming and all that, is it more
Starting point is 00:41:21 money? It's definitely more money because they just but how? Because they made it so that if you stream a record certain amount, remember we was one and done or maybe two and done. I bought the
Starting point is 00:41:36 Lox album, listening to it 10,000 times on CD. If I really loved it. I would keep listening to it if it broke, I went and bought it again. The way the streaming works is they actually pay you less. But if people stream, like, why you think reggae tone got this shit on smash? There's so many Spanish countries where all they do is look at YouTube or stream, Spotify, whatever. You listen to the shit 10, 15 times it goes down as an album sale. When we put it out, you got to go through snowstorms, stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:12 about a new album. Me and Pump waited six, seven hours to get the new M&M album. You had to go physical, right? Now you just take it on your phone and if you love the song and you keep playing that shit up, we're going to make it 20 times.
Starting point is 00:42:27 $1,500 for the album. The numbers don't add. In 1,500 streams is one spin or one record sale or something. That ain't, that, whoever the fuck made that up, they hate us. The shit, the whole system, the whole system been a scam
Starting point is 00:42:42 from the beginning, you're talking to the wrong guy. The math never added up with the record labels. You know, we look at the music. Like, if you want to look at this as a business as well, the math never was math. Dr. Dre. The music, it means everything, but the music is just like a coffee book.
Starting point is 00:43:00 It allows you to go in rooms where you wouldn't be accepted. There's a stepping stone. So now you're in Seoul House. You hear there. You're meeting somebody Rizzo. You meet the greatest movie guy who love you from Wu-Tang and now he starts getting you to score movies
Starting point is 00:43:15 and acting it and this and this and that. It's just a talking point. And so with us, we figured out like you, being around you doing this show, right? You do know I'm all about the money. Jada. I watch you. I'm watching, listen.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Where's the money? Where's the train? The train is coming, baby. The train this coming, baby. Because the point is, I'm looking at you, and you don't even know what you said. You're like, yeah, I went to the boxing match. You know, I worked.
Starting point is 00:43:49 You know, I went there for work. I'm over here. I work. This ain't even no more about bars, or I have to do a feature, or I have to distance. This ain't no more about bars or songs. It's just we work. And we do different assignments.
Starting point is 00:44:03 And at the end of the day, we come up with a pile of money. So it's not really based on selling records or the streams. If we put our music, now, which I just put out an album, the world changed on me, which is phenomenal. Right? It's really art for our fans. We're not trying to strike it rich off the shit.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Right? And so we do all these different things to just bring home the money at the end of the day. And so that's where hip-hop is. Hip-hop is just a talk. That's why you got coffee. You never, in your life, sitting
Starting point is 00:44:37 in front of that gas station and fucking yonkers. I know the gas station. What was the Halliburton that ever saw? That was never it. That's the gas station, right? You never thought you selling coffee. I never thought I was going to sell a hair dye for men.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Rewinded 10. But that's where we graduated to being entrepreneurs. Now we sell hair. You know, I sell fucking beard dye. You know what I'm saying? Rewinded 10. And sneaker stores. We're in the sneaker stores.
Starting point is 00:45:11 now. You know, it's my store in the garage. You know what I mean? We're selling juices. Weed. Pharmacy for life. We got weed. We got everything.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Don't put us in jail, guys. This is legal. This is legal. It's all legal. We got everything. Don't put us in jail. We got everything. Don't put us in jail.
Starting point is 00:45:32 We got to get the hoodies. We got everything. Don't put us in jail. We need to merch. We got everything. Don't put us in jail. I'm dead ass. I'm like, yo, we don't want to go to jail.
Starting point is 00:45:41 We're not trying to, we're encouraging you to be an entrepreneur. You see what we do. You see how we walk. And just try to have an easier life than us because we worked really, really hard to get to this point right now. This ain't, this, this wasn't for everybody. Blending Vice's signature dynamic storytelling with the high-octane world of sports, Vice Sports brings an exciting and diverse range of programming that goes beyond the game. Catch action-packed, live events.
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Starting point is 00:49:40 You know, I went one night, right? So I... Look, I'm not trying to brag another like that, right? But it costs a certain price to get Fat Joe to perform. It's just the bottom line. That's what that's inevitable. No, no, I'm just saying it costs a certain price.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Somebody paid the price. I show up and it's an old school at noon or fat Joe's the headliner. But I'm in Philly. So everybody me and you came out with, they're on the lineup. Right? So these are all legends at a time or whatever the case. I'm looking at dudes. They're missing their fucking teeth.
Starting point is 00:50:17 They're looking at me like I'm a fucking highro. glyphid. I've had rappers grab my shoulder and stare in my face to see if it's Botox or some shit. Like, they're looking at me like, how to fuck? I don't get high guys. I don't do nothing wrong. The most I do
Starting point is 00:50:34 is drink a Diet Pepsi. Other than that, you fucked if you're going to catch me. So I watch rappers, my peers, look at my face, grab my shoulder, and stare at me like I'm a fucking Egyptian fucking pyramid. Like, yo, how this
Starting point is 00:50:49 nigga's still looking all white, this, this, that. These guys got no teeth. I see this one guy. They would have thought the same about me if you ain't put my age or the cake. No, but listen, now you're doing great. You're doing for the nominee. You have me, fool.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Yo, I'm looking at one rapper, big time legend. He's dancing around the Hennessy bottle. He's dancing. And so I'm telling y'all, I've been in San Jose a long time. Dubai. I've been doing big tours and festivals for a long time. time. He's not bragged. He's not black. No, somebody
Starting point is 00:51:23 afforded me in the old school at noon. Somebody Yeah, they had the bag. Joe, when I pull up his former female sex symbols, they fatted them fat Joe. And so I'm looking
Starting point is 00:51:42 at this shit. I'm almost peeking out the window. Like out the door, I'm peeking. I'm like, yo, this is crazy. Like, motherfuckers just fucked up. But the point is, you got to take care of yourself,
Starting point is 00:51:57 preserve yourself, know that you got to be, you know what I'm saying? Food, vegetables, vitamins. Diet Pepsi's. Diet Pepsi's, yo. Let me tell you something. Shit, yo, listen,
Starting point is 00:52:09 shit crazy out here, man, but you got to take care of yourself, man, because it's a horror show if you don't. And so we see shit out here sometimes where, It just, it don't make sense to me.
Starting point is 00:52:25 You know, when I see legends looking fucked up, I see people looking fucked up, I see people not taking care of themselves, man. It's just too much shit. And at certain age, you need to adjust and take care of you. You can't sniff a mountain of cocaine at 50-something years old. You know, you over there thinking you Tony Montana at 30. I'm not advising that you sniff a mountain of cocaine at 50
Starting point is 00:52:49 because your ass is done. I'm not advising you sniffing out of the cocaine at any age. I'm in my crib, Miami, and I'm always early, right? I think you beat me here today, right? First time. He beat me here. But I'm always early. So I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:53:08 I'm ready to shoot the shit from the house. They're like, yo, Jada's a little late. I said, why? He said, he's in a gym. I had the respect that. I said, damn, this guy's in a gym. And for 50 years old, You can do all that shit.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I see you up there push-ups in summer solts and shit. You're doing some shit on one-to-arm. Like that shit, what the fuck? Was your pops cock diesel or something? Not at all. No, I'm asking you. So where do you get this shit from doing the bar work, the dance, the day? I'm looking at you.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Jim Jones is cocked diesel. It's a snowstorm. He works out every day. No, no, no. No, in the snow, he's doing push-ups. Anyway. Is that something special or something like he's doing push-ups? the snow with fucking a chain on them and shit.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Like, my thing is, yo. This thing is nice. Yo, no, I'll be looking at y'all working out. I'm like, yo, this shit crazy, but I gotta give it up to you. Don't I mean? Just move a little. Just do a little more.
Starting point is 00:54:09 No, I'm moving. I'm good, bro. I'm just not cocked diesel. I don't believe my body. My body is like Tyson Fury. That was a good kid, Pat. Oh, shit. That thought was the second best thing he ever said.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Let me tell you. He'll knock you out. Hell, yeah. But he looked flabby and sick. Like, you're looking at Tyson Fury. You don't look flabby and sick. You don't look sick. You don't look sick.
Starting point is 00:54:34 The man looked like he can't. He was the chair. He retired. Oh, he's still fighting. The man can't get a six back. He knocked mad niggins out. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:54:42 So I'm like that. You know, I'm not cocked-de-you. I'm not hanging north the side of a bill. Make sure that's the clip. That got to be a clip. I'm like Tyson Fury. That was the $100. I'm trying to get crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:54 That's shit. That ain't this. It's tracking this. God, d'it. So I think about Jamest to Jay, one of the, you know, back in the day, it's before your time, Jada. Thank you. Before your time. The DJ was more prominent than the rapper than the MC.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Definitely. So you had like Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. You had one DMZ. see Jam Master Jay. You know, the DJ, Scott LaRock and Karen. The DJ was really, really famous at one time. And Jamaster
Starting point is 00:55:32 Jay, not only was he an insane DJ, a member of one of the greatest groups, or he brought artists to the game, like the Onyx. Now, I think he was the first person to sign 50 cents. Like, he was ahead of his time, and, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:48 he got gunned down, unfortunately. But I think about Jamest Jay, what a producer, you know, and it just leads me off. I said, this episode been really insightful, but I get to thinking about, like, who's the top five producers of all time? With what you just said, you know, the DJ turned into the producer. if you ask me, a lot of them, a lot of producers can actually DJ and a lot of DJs can produce.
Starting point is 00:56:26 You know. Cool and Jay with DJ. The band's name is DJ for me. You know that, right? You know, we can just shut. One of the greatest producers ever, his name is still DJ for me. You know, we can shut that.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Swiss is a DJ. Mani Fresh is a DJ. All the legendary produced, Tim Malenka, D. You know what I mean? So it's almost like, if you think about it, rapper with ghostwriting, right?
Starting point is 00:56:50 Do you rate a producer that has a bunch of other producers bringing shit to the table, or do you think the producer needs to produce by himself everything? Sam, whatever. I think it's different. A rapper with a ghostwriter shouldn't be compared
Starting point is 00:57:06 to a producer that has a staff that, you might have instrument players. He might have a certain engineer to get the sound that he wanted. Somebody might come in and only do this drum pattern for him. But if he created it from the beginning
Starting point is 00:57:22 and they just helping them enhance it, that ain't the same as a ghost writer. A rapper with a ghost writer. So in that case, man, there's some serious producers out there because I only had one main one on the list, which is what you said, the obvious primo,
Starting point is 00:57:41 because I watch them chop everything up and do it himself. I've been in the rooms, you've been in the rooms with somebody like Kanye that got a bunch of producers, uses and of course he's throwing the sprinkle to it and he's getting what he wants out of it or say like a Dr. Dre worked with Scott Stoitz you know Scott Stoarts did all that he plays the issue. Swiss I've been with Swiss since he was telling him to get out of it
Starting point is 00:58:10 and pull him in pull out his NPC we told him go back to the drawing board for you. years until he finally got it. Then the whole room and went from the whole room going, ah, nah, to the old, holy shit, this is crazy. So it's a journey. And then once you get your sound and you hook the people, I don't know what you do from there because I ain't a producer. So I say DJ Premier.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Be careful with your five. This is why this is going to keep going because it's more than five. But go, go, go, your five. It's way more than five. It's way more than five, but we only got you the top five. Ha ha! Top five did all live.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I heard you say this a thousand. It really, top five of anything, golf, top five of crap, top five of paint. It's really your creation. When you say, yes, every jeweler I meet is,
Starting point is 00:59:11 Gary the Jewelah, Bobby the Jewelah, that's because Jacob the jeweler was the original one that blew. up. You started that top five shit forever. You be in the library.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Top five book, dead or alive. That's reference back to you. I appreciate it, but I'm a lightly declined the credit for that. I'm going to say DJ Premier. Let's go. I'm going to say Dr. Drake.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Let's go. Cheating. I'm not cheating. Them too, right. You talk about the best in the game. I can use my five could be whatever it was. You want to skip my, you want to skip my father.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Because you're stealing all the five. No, yo, Jay. All right. No, no, no, no. You say two then. Do your five. I got five. Yo, Jay, I don't want to snatch.
Starting point is 01:00:01 No, do two. No. Do two. No. No. No, no, no. We're going to go two. Two.
Starting point is 01:00:06 No. I'm trying to get you in on this. All right. Just do five. Yeah. DJ Premier. Hold on. Do any five.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Hold up. Five is five. Shut the fuck us. Let's go. DJ Premier, Dr. Drake, Derizza, Kanye West, and I go havoc
Starting point is 01:00:33 from Mar Dee. That's a mean five. You wanted me to shoot my son. That was a mean five. I tried to give you a play for play. And the honorable mention is a mean five. The D-D.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I ain't add his shit. See, he twists the whole room. I'm not. You, listen. But now I'm kind of going back. We should have fucking left Dr. Dre and them big is out of it because you're cheating.
Starting point is 01:01:00 But still, I'm going with Swiss because he started with me. Look, I'm going to Swiss because he's not the top of. Because he's got to make the list because that's my brother. There you go. Right?
Starting point is 01:01:10 For real. Mm. You know what I mean? I'm going with Scott Storch. That's a mean pack. I'm now I'm not I'm going to
Starting point is 01:01:24 Swiss Ferell Scott Storch right Oh Lord need to think about Just because I said A guy Don't mean You can't double down on it
Starting point is 01:01:33 I know I can use them I'm not I'm not going to use it For personal purposes So far you got a phenomenal team there Swiss for Rael Scott Storch Timberland Timberland
Starting point is 01:01:47 Arn B-Till Timberland Timberland Timberland Timberland just as Timberland All the shit he did from his... And then...
Starting point is 01:01:56 Yeah, all that. What's the shit with Jay-Z and Beyonce? All of that. Oh, my God. All that. All that. I'm a movement by myself. And now Timbo got the joint points.
Starting point is 01:02:12 What though, Just Blaze? I mean, I needed something like that from you because for you being the underground king, you definitely went commercial on. I want to go... It's still left out banked. We left out Mani Fresh. We left out Pete Rock. We left out fucking Q-Tip.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Q-tip. We left out mad niggins. We left out crazy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I know it's mad shit. We left out the on the corner. Shame on you. Because I'm this, my producers know that I love them.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Oh, your producers know you love them. You know I love. You're a jaded, man. You have to tell yourself. Fuck, wow. Oh. You left thing is out. That's not supposed to get left out.
Starting point is 01:02:57 But it's hard when there's only five. But we just hit a little top five because that's your shit. Shout out the Boost Mobile. Go get yourself the whole trap of phone, everybody. The block. The whole bus ride in the summer. You know, in the summer we used to go to Six Flags, Great Adventures, the whole block. That's Dorney Park.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Like, get the whole bus. Boost Mobile phones. Oh, me and Pun. had a show where you used to do what you should we go wood than your family
Starting point is 01:03:27 in VA where we used to it ain't there no. Hershey Park King's Dominion now I mean rest of me
Starting point is 01:03:32 and putting out of a show that's the million yeah me and putting how the show there was I got stranded
Starting point is 01:03:37 there one time that's a long story stranded the whole bus broke down with all my whole
Starting point is 01:03:43 projects were sitting on the side of the road for like 20 hours another bus came and brought
Starting point is 01:03:47 us back to the bones Kings of me shout out AJ GP all of them will do it
Starting point is 01:03:52 together this has been Joe and Jada we're flaming out there that ain't this this ain't that and it's cracking kiss and it's number one and we're not going to stop now
Starting point is 01:04:05 I'm headed to Dubai shout out Rasha Belize and get married and I'm going to a wedding then I'm going to end up at San Jose in Monaco
Starting point is 01:04:16 because my brother Nori his wife Neri it's her birthday Happy birthday to Neri Happy future birthday, happy belated. You know what I mean? I'm celebrating as well.
Starting point is 01:04:27 And then we're going to land back on Primith Rock. And we're going to shoot a bunch of, don't think I'm not, I'm not laying off of y'all. We're going to land off. We're not going to playoff. Landed on us.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And yo, hey, yo, shout out. I got to say with something, Ben Crump, Attorney General, Black Attorney General. He's looking for me. I got to get with Ben Crump. And shout out to Malcolm X family. I went to his 100. his birthday up in Harlem.
Starting point is 01:04:54 It's crazy because they took over the center where he got murdered in. Through the party in there. They did a hundredth anniversary of his birthday. So Lauren, the heirway sister came up there, right? You know I started with the Fugees. I don't know if you know. Fulji started with digging in the crates.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I don't know you. Fulji Lai was my beat. Salam Remy made for me. See, I left out Salam Ritt. Look, dog. He was supposed to make the thing. This is. Norman went up there, spoke some words of wisdom.
Starting point is 01:05:25 She ripped it down, legend. She started, funny how money change situation. And so I haven't seen Lauren face to face in the long time. And so I pull up on Lauren, I'm like, sis. She said, I love you, Joe. I felt so good that night. I got in the car. I drove the jersey and I was like, yo, Lauren says she loved me.
Starting point is 01:05:47 And that's the perfect way to end this show. Yeah, yeah, Joe and Jade. Oh, Puggy, we love me, Maugh. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers, I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick, and guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
Starting point is 01:06:11 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Just listen. Don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel. Help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?
Starting point is 01:06:52 We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know.
Starting point is 01:07:09 I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no-nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. Jenchian win. She's an outsider to win the French fame. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now,
Starting point is 01:07:27 and I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubb's tennis podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHart Women's Sports. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the apps.
Starting point is 01:07:59 athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to SportsSlice on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.

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