The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Fetty Wap talks ‘Zavier’ album, NEW chapter in career & music industry’s hard lessons

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss sit down with Fetty Wap, who pulls up to Joe and Jada fresh out of a four-year bid with a new team and a new album ‘Zavier’ that dropped everywhere on March 27th. Fett...y breaks down what it took to get his mind right and get back to the Fetty that took the world by storm with his debut album in 2015. Joe makes the case that Fetty is on the level of Nelly and 50 Cent and should be credited with creating his own wave of hip hop. Fetty plays two new records live on the show, including 'I Remember' featuring G Herbo, a raw look back at the come up, the money, and the people who weren't there when it mattered. Joe and Jada also get into the ugly side of the industry, artists getting locked into bad deals and accountants robbing them blind, and what every young artist needs to know before they sign anything. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 4:30 Welcoming Fetty home 18:30 Fetty developing ‘Zavier’ during time away 30:30 Joe on the ugly side of the industry 36:00 Fetty plays “I Remember” & “Right Back To You” 43:00 Joe compares Fetty to 50 & NellySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 And like, everybody looking at me crazy because I went to the Chinese store. Like, I'm in there like, I'm hosting four chicken wins. But it's just like, you know, certain people got this aspect of how they view. me because they hear the songs, but they don't know where I'm from. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all?
Starting point is 00:02:46 This Joe Crack, the Dawn. It's your boy Jada, you know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic, crushing shit, pun intended. When you think of today's guests, you think of a motherfucking billboard crusher. You think of melodies. You think of Patterson, New Jersey. Jersey, you think of, even though we sponsored by 1800, 1738 owes this man. Robin James, they owe this man.
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Starting point is 00:04:19 Fetty, why? It's dope, man. Welcome to the Joe and Jada show. My brother was good. I'm easy on them, man. Easy style. You already know, man.
Starting point is 00:04:35 No doubt. I've seen you in there, working out, getting your mind, right, seeing you come on. He actually had a, a different kind of come home.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I put him and Max B in the top come home Max B came French waiting for him I don't know how much of a pause it is
Starting point is 00:04:52 sound like something come on off grit release you know come home no fucking porch you know
Starting point is 00:05:02 he had one of the best come homes yo my man that's just that's not pause because your mother and my mother
Starting point is 00:05:10 said it over 40 billion times. Come on. I can never be a pause. Okay. But his release, we're going to get our Harvard jargon up. His release from incarceration was one of the best,
Starting point is 00:05:25 indifferent and amazing that we've seen like Max B. where he actually went to see the lane. He went directly to the bag. Let me out. Let me go talk to these people to see how we're going to get back to the bread. You know what I mean? Man, let me actually see. something, man.
Starting point is 00:05:43 So you go to jail, right? I don't know. I don't know. I said nothing. My head was talking. What happens with Fetty Watt, who has four number one hits? I'm not talking about urban.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I'm talking about number one out the park. Cindy Lauper. Fetty Watt, right? You name it. Four in a row, right? In your worst. day and a crackhead day. I used to tell Remy this all the time. So, you know, I mean, our
Starting point is 00:06:16 crackhead day will get $5,000 a piece to perform forever. We do $4,000, we make $20,000. You and your worst day for four number ones, in your worst, in the crackhead day, it'll be $20,000. You got four number ones. You do
Starting point is 00:06:32 four, five of them a month. That's $100,000. That's a principal salary of a year. This is in the worst. In this worst. No, this is cracket. Yeah, crack. I could not understand for the life of me how do you get into this trouble? Could you break that down to us?
Starting point is 00:06:47 Why did that happen? What put you in that position? I mean, it's real simple, though. Like, it's simple. As far as, like, how it happened and how I got to that point, just doing too much with people. Like, the same go, like,
Starting point is 00:07:02 I kept pouring out an empty cup, you know what I'm saying? Even though I kept filling the cup back up, it kept running empty, until I could not fill a cup up them. You know what I'm saying? At a certain point, it was like, you know what, like, I'm doing more than I can handle by myself. Feel me?
Starting point is 00:07:17 Like, I had to fire the management. I had to, I was just doing everything by myself. You know what I'm saying? Like, when it was coming, like, the book shows, like, I remember a couple, a few times people was reaching out to me through the DM. Like, yo, we've been heading up your manager. I don't have a manager. You know what I mean? And I'm like, yeah, talk to me directly.
Starting point is 00:07:36 So I got all these people calling me. I'm not knowing how to handle all this by myself. and I'm really booking every show by myself. So now I'm trying to figure out how to do it. I got to figure out how to do like the W-9s and all this type of thing like that. And I don't know nothing. I'm like, you know what like, it's too much for me.
Starting point is 00:07:54 So it's like the only thing I know how to do other than music was us. So I'm like, I still got to feed the family. I still got to feed the kids. And it was like instead of me moving away from the pride and just asking for help, you know, I'm like, I'm just doing it by myself like I've been doing. So when it came down to it, you know, certain things happened,
Starting point is 00:08:13 certain people got caught up, my name got brought up, and this will happen. That's always going to happen in hip-hop. People don't understand. Like, I try to tell them all the time. You in the club? I just told you about me getting arrested. I didn't even finish that story with Revy with.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I got arrested for no reason. They beat this guy up. They locked me up. You know, fat, Joe robbed them, this and this. that shit happened to me about 10 times. They was coming up to me. I'm rich. And they were saying, yeah, you robbed them for the skinniest chain never created.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I'm like, yo, bro, this shit don't even make sense. You come into my album release signing to lock me up, but I stuck a guy up for a $300 chain. All right. So the point is, you're used to a lifestyle. Are you out there? You're making a bunch of money, but you're spending a bunch of money. And it got overwhelming to the point of where you was like,
Starting point is 00:09:09 you was used to that money. So you said, yo, let me go hustle and get that type of money right there. Right? So now,
Starting point is 00:09:18 the new Feddy Bob that came home, you know you got to adjust. That's a fine. So there's some times where we're doing great. We're the family. I tell the wife,
Starting point is 00:09:29 yo, go get the burking, go get to this, go get to that. Then there's time she got to sip through a straw. And instead of noble, you got to go to the diner. I've had to,
Starting point is 00:09:39 times in my life where I got to adjust to say, all right, shit is slow right now. Let's start eating some diner food. Todd shit, get back up. These are like the adjustments you got to make throughout your career because in this career shit, it's not guaranteed, but there is something guaranteed. You have four hits. You're a generational artists. There's people who grew up and started rapping just singing and rapping because of you.
Starting point is 00:10:09 there's people who looked up to you. I feel like you birthed the whole genre of music. I want you to know, yo, it ain't so bad, 20,000 a show or something like that. If you get four, them a month, five of them a month, I've been there before.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You know, and I got caught with taxes, they took all my money, billions of dollars, and diggers were playing with. The same guys who spanned me 50,000 a show, they're like, yo, how many times you think people want to hear lean back? I got 12,000.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Ah, Romania, 12,000? Shit. Bangladesh. Yo, we got 12,000. Same guy, been paying me 50,000 for 18 years. They play with you like that. But I had to say, all right, until I get another one, if we ain't go off crazy, and I get back my life.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And I got them all back. So when all the way up came out, I got a more back. I wouldn't even take any show. You know, Joe, we want a book show. I'm like, you sir cannot book the show unless guess what guys i'm charging a hundred thousand you pay 175 to 200 on purpose no that's not fair joe that's what it is for you he played with me you was booking me for 12,000 the slums of chowlin you know they played with me i got them all back
Starting point is 00:11:29 thank to god but you have to realize that you know i guess you did how many how many years you did before. And I seen you're in real jail. He wasn't in fake jail. Yeah, but he was in real jail. There's guys who go to fake jails, guys. Like, this is like, what are you talking about? My man Boussi just pulled out of PC shit
Starting point is 00:11:52 and something like this. The guys fake jails. Like, I don't mean it was, all jails is real. Whatever you go inside the jail is on you. I don't know of a fake jail. I've seen you in real jail. Tyler Perry. Nice guys.
Starting point is 00:12:06 You say jail? Jail is real, don't. I know guys, wherever you go. They call me from jail with the cell phone, with champagne. Oh, you're talking about where Jacob did jeweler went. They're shit like that.
Starting point is 00:12:22 They got kids. They got kids. Yes. You wasn't in that. You was in jail. You was in jail. And people don't realize how difficult it is to go in there as a rap star.
Starting point is 00:12:35 What are you feeling when you walking in them gates. I mean, you know, I started up in Brooklyn. I was an MDC. So I was on. So you started your time there. You checked in MDC? No, I ain't checking no way.
Starting point is 00:12:51 No, I ain't said, like you gave, you know what I'm saying? Oh, so they locked you up and then you was there and you was fighting your case at an MDC? Oh, okay. For a NDC. Me, I had to get myself in. Like, okay, come do your time. Yeah, they came back. You, they came and got you so you stuck there.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Yeah. Right? You got a choppo in there. You was in there when the chopper was in there. No, Chapo was in, chopper was in, they had him like an special thing. Well, I'm trying to em old bait.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah, I was in 43. I was in 43, 229. I was in Jimpa. Yeah, that's what you spoke to. Fuck all that. You'd have made the PC list, man. Boots you put out the PC list, man. You get exposed, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:32 What was that like adjusting? You know, what was that like, You know, going to jail and then Justin and the U-Fair, you walk into the new jail, yo, fettie, what's up, this, this, that? Like, the fair's a little bit different. So you kind of, like, you kind of gravitate to your hood. Like, so you, like, you know, whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:51 He was in the Jersey car. Yeah, like, once people seem, like, oh, no, he's just a regular, like, he broke from the hood. Like, he's one of us. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I ain't going there on some, like, yo, I'm this, this, me, woo. I'm ill.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I. who got what for sale? Let me get that. Let me get this. Let me get that. You got how much you got in your luck. Let me get that. You need some of your comments every list.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I'm going to put some of my sense of money over there, some of your cash that. Like, I just went in there moving around. Yeah. I mean? Like, I just, you just, you ain't got no choice about to adapt to it. Yeah. Either that or just go to PC. I certainly want to have you workout to.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah, I was doing my name. Yeah. He came on probably. Boy, you had that. Just came home. Did he box. I was mad little when I went in. Yeah, I was mad little when I went in.
Starting point is 00:14:39 But you was in there, you know, I told them outside, I said, you know, some guys going there, they get fat. Yeah. How do you go to jail and get fat when everybody works out? Some people ain't got that motivation. You get fat in the world. Is this? Not true.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It's not true. No, not really. It's not true because when you wake up in jail, the whole jail's working out. Like, there's no way to avoid it. Hey, basketball's easy. where he's just here, like, bro, for you to sit there
Starting point is 00:15:08 for four years, just eating your face out. You know, like, you got to be a lazy motherfucker. I mean, but some people who can't come out, they sell-up. You know, you got the head of the Muslim car. He won't allow you to do nothing in the jail. Like, you can't get no money. You can't move around.
Starting point is 00:15:24 You want to take your shot? You want to come over with sitting and sitting. They can't go nowhere. So, you know what I mean? Like, like, because you really, you did this for protection. You ain't did this because you believe, a lot, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:36 It'd be like that. It'd be a lot of them in there. So, like, it'd be them type of motherfuckers I can't come out their sad. We're going to protect you, keep reading and shit like that. Yeah, you feel me? Like, they got to do, like, the cleaning. They'd be cleaning.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Like, right down the table. I had Hong Kong Mongolia wipe my shit while I was gone. Big motherfucker. Yo, wipe the shit down. I want that shit spotless, man. Yeah, but they, I mean, but, you know, they still stand on business, though. Like, as far as, like, the real right ones.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Like, they still stand. They're not. Just because I say that, because, you know, some people that's on the outside that I'd never been to jail might have something to say about that comment. You don't understand. You know what I'm saying? Like, jail definitely made me realize, like, you know what I'm saying? Everything I was doing. Like, everything I was doing wrong about myself for the family, for the kids.
Starting point is 00:16:21 You know what I mean? Like, I got a chance to sit back and reflect on everything I was doing. Like, I'm going in there thinking, like, man, I just spent this money on. I remember I brought a bro this. I brought this. And I'm like, I'm like, I only did this from my daughter. did this with my son on their birthdays or whenever I was with him, it was never just, I'm outside, let me just bother him.
Starting point is 00:16:40 You know what I mean? Like, no, ignorant shit like that, you feel me? Like, that I was doing when I was younger. And now it was like, it just made me realize, like, you know, where, like, this time you come home, you know what I mean, you owe them that time back. I mean, you owed him that time back. The same way you were spurring on the gods and everybody robbing
Starting point is 00:16:56 Jane Dowell, like, he said, like, you know, all that type of shit. Like, I mean, let's take the babies. Let's go get some Chanel purse for the girls, for my daughters. Did a lot of guys disappoint you when you went and did your time? Of course. You thought they would write you a letter or something like that?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Of course they did. I had one of my guys, one of the most realest guys in the world. He catch a murder case. All these guys used to think he was cool with, none of them showed up the court. None of them came around. Nobody visited him.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Nobody this and this and that. By a miracle of God, he beat the murder case. He came out. He's hanging out with all these dudes. you're my man. You're lying to yourself. They already proved to you. God put you in a position
Starting point is 00:17:40 so they could prove to you if they real family, if they real friends or not. What my man said, who was that? Was that George Bush fool me once, huh? Shame on me. Fool me twice.
Starting point is 00:17:56 You know, in my life, I learned to not forgive those guys. It took me three times. I went rich, broke, rich, broke. Rich till I finally say. That was four. That was four?
Starting point is 00:18:09 No, that was three. But it took me a long time to, you just learn from my experience. Those guys, they're no good. They're never going to turn around to be good. They're never going to be loyal. You're wasting your time. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Nah, get out new music. How was it in there? Was you able to think of songs? Was you able to think of shit? Because everybody I know, I can't think of nothing. I didn't, my mind wasn't even on music while I was in. Yeah, I was in the whole, I was in the shoe for six and a half months.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I was in a shoe for six and a half months, and that's when everything started coming to. Like, that's when I really had that sitback time. Like, that's really around the time where it's crazy because my first two years in, I was so, like, how I could put this shit? Like, I was so much on go time with the gods. I wasn't even, like, thinking about music. Like, I'm, I'm, when five o'clock come, once you hit that door unlocked, tie your boots. Like, it's none of that, like, you don't have that luxury to just, like I said, unless you go to a different section of the jail, you feel?
Starting point is 00:19:15 Like, so once you start coming down on levels, like, it was like, all right, whatever. And then, like, as soon as I got to, like, a good jail, like, where I could cheer with the champagne and all that, like that, like that. Like, they locked me right, but I don't even make it there 20 days. That's when they sent you home No, they sent me to the shoe Lock them back up Yeah So I went to, like a camp
Starting point is 00:19:37 I got there like I was there for 20 days They tried to say I escaped camp Let me something I beat it though So yeah I beat it But they still set me in there Like like, like you got You got too much influence
Starting point is 00:19:49 You got too, you know what I mean? I hate that Yeah And that's how they get us Like that's how especially like I guess that's how they get us Like I hate that Because he could do this
Starting point is 00:19:58 They hate that on you and they set an example on you just because of who your name is and it ain't you as a person. They don't necessarily mean that you're like that.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Or they play that game with everybody. Like Remi, she was in parole right, on TV with a family number one song in America this, they would not let her go do a show.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And these bum-ass parole officers just like, man, no, this. And she's on, like, you see she's trying to change her life. She's trying to be a boss. She's trying to do. She's on a TV show, this, that they fronted on her for, like, I think, what was it? She had, like, three years of parole. I went with her when they had an ankle-braced on her. Three years later, like, you know, it was incredible, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:56 But they were just abusing the power. So you came home. Is it a new style Fettie Wop or is it the classical Fetty Watt? You finished talking about jail because I'm going to start asking about the album. Okay. You don't want me to ask about the Rhapsie. That 1800, Jada, Kisholns. He's talking about the new time.
Starting point is 00:21:20 He's on bottle of 1800. How you pronounce it? Xavier. Xavier. Xavier. No, Xavier. Like Xavier. Xavier.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Yeah. But just take the act. something, but it's just Z. Z. What was your age on my head? Yo, Fettie Bump, what was that? How do you come up with that? Was it V? Yeah, Zabar.
Starting point is 00:21:41 So that's like, that's like my alter ego. So, like, when I started doing music before, like, I used to do this thing like, Zubier, like, a lot of my oldest songs. Like, and it really came from, like, Gucci used to be on, like, Gucci Man LaFlead. So I'm like, I can't say,
Starting point is 00:21:59 Fetti Woplaer. Like, everybody called me Zoo Vier. And I mean? So it was like, just put it together. So it was like, at one point, I was changing my name anyway. So that was my name. It's A Vier. I get it.
Starting point is 00:22:16 You know what I'm saying? That's fine. I get it. What's the sound? Yeah. Sound, right? Yeah. I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:22:25 What are you doing? Some new type shit? Are you doing Fetti Wop? That's a little mix. to both. You know, it's just a more mature version of me. That's all, like a more mature version. Like, I'm still me.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Just, you know, I got a few, I got a few different bops in there. I'm saying, like, let me tell you something. I tell you in your face, man, I always been a fan of you. I've always thought you was a great person. I know you're going to come with a hit record.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And if you don't, you're talking to a guy. I've been around 30-something years. You got four number ones. You get yourself a book- No! You get, all right. You're just telling you the truth.
Starting point is 00:23:02 What I'm saying is facts. I respect that, though. You know what I'm saying? You get your money, how it comes. Either you're going to make a ton of money. You know, we're all looking for the hit record to make a ton of money. Or we take that slow good money, which is better than a lot, 99% of America's money. I got a good team beyond me now.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Like, I got a great team beyond me. Yeah, I see you got about 76 people with you. over here. You've got white people in the entourage. I'm doing like a documentary. Yeah, I'm doing a documentary. What's the documentary
Starting point is 00:23:40 called? Where's it coming out? I don't know yet. It's getting that footage, getting this content. So it's just like, no, I'm just taking this crime. I'm taking my craft serious this time.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I mean, like, I already I did what I did outside of it. I mean, nobody can't take that from me. I did my time. I stood on my to nobody can't take that from. So it's like, all right, now I do something for Feddy. I mean, like, the same way I was confident
Starting point is 00:24:07 and going to grab the, I mean, and hitting the kitchen and going outside had that confidence level, like, this is what I do. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I know I can make this if I go on my mind. I got that same confidence with the music, for me, so that's how I'm on. I don't know how crazy that was.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I don't think you even understand how crazy that was. No, I didn't. Yo. Because I don't look at myself how everybody else look at me. That's always been my problem. Like, me as a person, like, I remember one time
Starting point is 00:24:36 we had, King, bro had invited me to his hook. I mean, we came out there to the Yonkers. Like, and like, everybody looking at me crazy because I went to the Chinese store. Like, I've been in, like, hosting four chicken wings fresh.
Starting point is 00:24:48 But it's just like, you know, certain people got this aspect of how they view me because they hear the songs, but they don't know where I'm from. Today's show brought to you by our presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet, Florida Sportsbook. Biggest weekend in college basketball is almost here.
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Starting point is 00:26:41 We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember I think it was on a call about what we should call it And we were thinking I'm originally calling it One of the early names of our band Before Jonas Brothers
Starting point is 00:27:13 This is how you guys remember it going down Yes I have a very different memory of this We were talking about a thing A bit for the podcast For people could call in and say hey Jonas And then I wrote down on my little notepad Hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title For the podcast
Starting point is 00:27:28 But thanks for remembering that Guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel. Help an Acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Jen should win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tript Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase
Starting point is 00:29:18 that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on Earth? Are you a good person because you're afraid?
Starting point is 00:29:38 Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, learn the hard way.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Open your free, our heart radio app, Search Learn the Hard Way and listen now. But I'm glad you back and you've got a good team. Let me tell you something. I've invested millions in the artists, me. So I've been in the other guys. And when the artist tells me, y'all don't want to be here, I say, not a problem.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I'm sure you don't want to be with us? Not a problem. All right, here you go. I've had several artists. I spent millions of dollars on it. They turned around. It's like, yo, I don't think this is working out. You sure you don't think this is work?
Starting point is 00:30:32 It ain't working out. I'm going to go do whatever. Oh, damn, I don't think none of them ever popped off when they left. But the point is, I never believed in holding people against their will. Or because I signed a talented person. Hey, you got to take some credit because you signed it. Right? But, you know, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I see it all the time. I see it with, I see men, man handling female artists that they signed them to. Yo, I don't care. Yo, I son. It's like, y'all, all right, you gave her, you know, gave her a shot. She blew up, made millions.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Be smooth. She don't want to be here. Let's move on. Work out some shit and keep it pushing. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, that's something that's been the ugly in the hip-hop game. Somebody feel like they signed you. man, there'll be a guy who signed you
Starting point is 00:31:29 never seen you again. That's the fact. And then you blow and they're like, yo, that's what they happened. Somebody wrote a hit hook for me. Right? Hit hook. I thought, I was like,
Starting point is 00:31:42 damn, this thing is about to be rich, right? Because I'm giving up the right publishing to them and everything. Yo, you wrote the worry this, this, this. Somebody's honey, guys came up to me. He was like, yo, you know, I own the guy. You know, I own the guy. You know, I gave him 10,
Starting point is 00:31:57 grand while he was drunk in the gambling spy. I own him. I diss, this, this. I'm like, yo, he got nothing. That's crazy. He's supposed to make millions of the... I swear to you, they kept coming up to me. Like, I said, yo, I worked with him. I know, Ethan.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I happen to know this one. I'm giving him the publishing. I don't have to say, you know, you look at... I know. I know. I know, and I'm not telling you. You, listen. But... It's the craziest shit I ever seen it.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Now, I'm happy for the guy. This guy works hard. He's a great guy. I'm like, all right, this guy going to be kicked up. He came out the woodworks. Oh, I own them. Yo, I hear. Octopus hands.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And I'm like, you know. And so what's so important is for artists out there to not be in the position that most people be in is you got to have to church. What it is that you're not saying is we all, that's three up here, whoever's back there that's all this, you've got to learn. We don't, we didn't come in and shit learning. So the faster we know we're getting done wrong,
Starting point is 00:33:12 the faster you can get out of that situation. But it's to learn from there and then to educate those that's coming up. Because it's going to keep having. As long as you don't have the knowledge, They're looking for talented. Most important shit you need to do is get a lawyer. That's stupid. Even sometimes the lawyers down with the label,
Starting point is 00:33:34 then you get caught in the triple cross. So you got to learn as much as you can pray and surround yourself with some good people because they're going to keep doing it. That's the fucked up part of it. It's never going to stop. That's their job. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:52 That's fucked up. You know what I mean? man, I had a lawyer I really trust. I was with him for about 10, 15 years. He introduced me to the guy who lined me up for the tax case. I never trusted him again. I got rid of him. I said, yo, this guy lined me up.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I don't know. He got caught up in some shit and lined me up with the accountant, who I never seen again in my life, and didn't pay my bills, robbed me, and I went to the feds because of him. Man. So I got to agree with Kiss. When he says sometimes you can't even trust your own lawyer.
Starting point is 00:34:34 You know, some of these guys be connected. It's the craziest shit. Trust is a hard thing in life. It's crazy because I still trust. Me, I'm dumb enough to trust. I can't do that. I don't got to let me to do that thing. I caught two accountants robbing me for millions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:34:53 After I caught the Fed case, I caught another accountant that we treated like family stealing like $3 million from me. Like this shit is legendary. Like this shit... How many accounts get killed a year? How about they don't even go to jail, bro? That's why.
Starting point is 00:35:13 You can't even sue them. You can't even is. In a couple of counting funerals. There is come. A couple of counties got to get. That's a kid. You're just as crazy. But I ain't lying.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It's like a loophole with these accountants how they get away with this shit. You know what I'm saying? But you got a team. You're on the goal. We got some new music. Yeah, we get. Let's hear that shit.
Starting point is 00:35:38 The single, White Roses, or there's something else? There's something else right here. No doubt. We get a special Joe and Jada. You know what I mean? That's obvious. You already know. We get something special.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Let's hear it. Freddie Bards it. You might want to make this the next single. Whatever you play on here, because it's going to get duct taped to a rocket ship. It's out of it. It's just that Virulania. It's time for me to go.
Starting point is 00:36:18 If I pop, I would he show up? I'm like, cook up a baby. He was pushing bags up, but now we push up daisies. I remember I was counting up a mill of my Mercedes. I remember having dreams about a mill. I was waiting for a plug like a blessing. I remember them corner days on twelf and twillade. I remember LB and beans and fetti cash in the trap.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I remember it was Perion night gave me my first track. I remember me and Quadry when Slick P got back. I remember singing chill bro, big bro, bought to come back. Days when bitches didn't even notice me. I remember when niggins funny faces when they found out what I was singing. I remember feeling like A's that day he walked out the cleaners. I remember being young as hell, feeling so insecure. I remember I was looking in the mirror then I started seeing more
Starting point is 00:37:18 I remember Montana bucks dicing fetic cash for the sum I remember the day I fell in love it was with key I remember choosing loyalty of a royalty I can prove it I remember I haven't let none of my knicker spill useless I remember that it's only me was the only one looking stupid I remember that first million dollar check had it in my hand I remember that the one I gave it to we probably never speak again I remember about a defamation case I ain't never even know about I remember if you let me how you say why you ain't throw it out I remember feeling exed out getting left out by the rest I remember feeling drained out niggins I put that on my set I remember feeling better now I got it on my chest me I'm a decade and you know my name no limit ain't change y'all's playing with them jeans way before my fame load up cocking and bang I stayed silent was locked in with game I bought a brick for I bought me a chain there's so many
Starting point is 00:38:18 any hits how the fuck I'm still saying let's take a trip down memory lane nigger i'm emma g phase o die in my bed i couldn't stop crying me my mom ain't let me outside but i snuck right back out on the nine remember 14 about my first nine old ass 38 ain't even shy ain't give a fuck though cause it was mine waitin on the fuck nina get out of the line remember my first time going to slide yeah i was scared but i hit the trap when i let off i close my eyes open them shop out for more times and i remember the rad back flaming the weed up try and relax when i got rich start bat straps now i Can't remember how many of our... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:50 All our rap is facts. I remember pouring up, place to act. Flying in the track, me, Molly and Max. Remember on something like 15 hacks? Brookes could hear to rap that bitch all black. Because we were sliding, sliding, slin, sliding, and sliding. And splice on, how about the back? Remember, I was having a guilt trip.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Like, well, I gotta solve everybody problems. I still ain't here or shit. Niggas act like I ain't grow up, poor rats running all in my build. White folks gay, the whole hood. Remember, them niggas almost killed. Streets fucked up. That's how it is.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Looked up the gangster since a kid. Remember G G G G G Gilles first took his beat Remember I only goes to see Took it on drills to them bitches heat I remember backing up pounds of meat Remember I ran up my first M Remember I was fucked up like three years ago Now look at me I'm him
Starting point is 00:39:32 Remember I was fucked up like two years ago About a riding truck I'm true Shit happy fast running 20 cash I'm trying to do it again Now I spass now I show my ass He don't know my past I made something out of nothing They ain't even know I was on my last
Starting point is 00:39:46 Oh I remember Fetty Watt Yeah, let's see the other one That sound like Fetty Watt to me That voice we know on that radio I was about to say that that was crazy That's like the outro
Starting point is 00:40:10 Oh man, man Sound like Fettie Wop to me You know that voice I've been gone for a while, but I came right back for you. Because I've been really, let me surfing it, baby. You're waving. And keep it rid of online, baby. It's a vibe, baby.
Starting point is 00:42:27 This is a vibe right here. You're coming out? Friday, March 27th. March 27th, all platforms. Zavi year. We got to help them go back to the moon, you know what I mean? Help them put that $100 million back in the bank account. Yeah, you already know, man.
Starting point is 00:43:12 How you're doing that, Fettie Bop, man. I believe in you, man. I know you got some more hits in there. If you so. You know, you got them voices, right? Kids grew up listening to your voice on the radio all day every 10 seconds. So if you put one out, it's gone. I always say that about Nelly.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I say about 50 cents. There's certain big artists. And believe it or not, Fetty, you're on that level, is what I'm trying to tell you. You have Ford number one. I don't know if they broke down to you. Ford number one with Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake and all that. You got the number ones on that shit. These guys be fronting like they got a high record.
Starting point is 00:43:56 They got the shit is just, you know, WPGI. I get what you're saying. Your shit is monstrous, right? Disrespecting WPGI. We don't even know who the fuck is WPG. I'm just making it. Somebody. You.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Sound like D.C. That ain't D.C.? No, I'm not fucking distant D.C. Close to them calling. Listen, guys, I don't mean nothing. I don't mean none of that. What I'm saying is... I'm just apologizing before they canceled a little.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Because you didn't know. Cincinnati radio stations. WKRP is Cincinnati. Yeah. My point is, no offense to anybody. You know what I'm saying? So I want to do is keep it clean. Yeah, your man, you know, they know your voice.
Starting point is 00:44:50 You play prime time. He's back, man. Save for you back. That last song was incredible. Stay focused and put it out. You're going to get it. You're going to get it. I promise you.
Starting point is 00:45:00 100 mil back. Going for it. 200 mil back in the account. Then we're going to get you back on the couch. And you're going to take a shot. shop. Oh, no, he said he's tired of that shit. He ain't take him all fucking brother jeans. He didn't buy no robin' jeans no more. We helped him get the 200 mil out there. He's going to go back to the billboards again.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Am I? I appreciate that. My, don't forget about me. My dog's over there, man. Everything, man. Remember, I said it here first. No, he definitely going to step to you when you got that 200. Like, y'all, kids put you in game.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Hey, Kiss put you on. But yeah, any plans for touring with this album? I mean, right now, you know, I'm still on. Still on. So you on that, Bremi Ma, where they don't want to let you go. But once they see, once they, once they, once they, they got his to. They got his screen like, we didn't know you with the label. They know you.
Starting point is 00:45:56 The bracelets coming off right back to the. How much time do you got on papers? Five, five years. Five more? Yeah. Supervisor. You know what it is. Once he, once they see how he moving.
Starting point is 00:46:08 They're going to let them move, and they're going to get the 20 minutes. I don't get. I don't really drink even though sorrisade rum is the best room in the planet. Perfect. That's $1,800 is the best again, right? They came to my house, pithestest me three days in a row. Just, they warned. They're legal now.
Starting point is 00:46:26 So they switch the rules of the rope. Yeah? That's only in the state. No, hell no. Only in the state, in the state. But it's going to get federal. The state is that nigg sniff hair on on that bitch. Let them come on, man.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Hell yeah. This is big getting high on that. You better not have no. They get them a chance. Your relationship with parole right now, you better never need parole. I'll tell you something. I'm never going to need parole. No, never say never.
Starting point is 00:46:53 I'm never going to need parole. Never say never. I'm never going to need parole. You know why? I don't get high. I don't drink. I got nothing to do it. I got everything to do it.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Bernie Madoff and he gets high. Three pissed tests. clean. The guy tells me this guy was just randomly popping up in my house and walking through my house by the way.
Starting point is 00:47:15 I don't know if you know your house it's not your house. They just violate you. They're walking in my shit. Like, you know, oh, nice drinking. This nigga was on parole.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I had a day party in Long Island City. They called him. They heard this shit blasted. He had the, he had the Dukes of a hazard. You have to run home. You know,
Starting point is 00:47:38 Okay. They called him and told him. Yo, bring all your shit to the halfway house. You got to come in. My point is... Don't dish per roll. I sit down. I sit down.
Starting point is 00:47:51 She looked like a nice lady and I'm pretty... Like, I'm a great negotiating. At all levels. I'm up in there. I say, miss, how you doing it? You know, it's been like six months. You realize I don't get hired. Don't drink.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Paying my bills and paying my business. I might be your best client, I'm telling you. Like, you know, I'm like absolutely not a fucking, I'm not crossing in green. I'm not driving without a lot. I'm the best guy you got. Nothing. Man, this woman fuck with me so much, man. Oh, man, I just ain't to understand that.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I remember it was the last day. I'm in Germany. And I called the woman and I'm like, yeah, miss, you know the show's going right? She told me, Carter Gini. You know I can extend. your parole. I said, for what? I've been the nicest guy in the world. I don't do nothing wrong. I don't this,
Starting point is 00:48:47 this, that. She told me that shit on that last day. Which wasn't true. Once you, gone, you're gone. But these people just fuck with me. I'm sorry, you're still on parole. He does anything I say has nothing to do with Fannie Wapty Wap. It's a great guy. Take the long. You try to help. He's trying to get him off.
Starting point is 00:49:05 He tried to get him in the same. All this shit, I say, is Jada This is right by my side, my business partner. He agrees with him. I want to get him off parole, 200 mil back in the account. And everything is love. I like. We got that Patterson, New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Have you been back? Of course. Which kind of question is that? Maybe he's on parole in New York. They don't let him hang out of Jersey. They didn't some bunch of bullshit. You're going back to the hood, man. New Jersey parole?
Starting point is 00:49:33 Yeah. Man, I just. Ha, yo, Jersey. Nah, nah, nah, fuck. This thing is crazy. You know, I live in Jersey. You know, I love New Jersey. I love New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I'm just saying, hey, the gods, huh? This ain't that? That ain't this. Cracking kiss, guys. Make some noise for fatty-wop, you. Hey. Y'all like that second track, man. That's a flop.
Starting point is 00:50:02 That's a fraud. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas.
Starting point is 00:50:16 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite, unhumored me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?
Starting point is 00:50:57 We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where SportsSlice comes in.
Starting point is 00:51:17 I'm Timbo, and every episode we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:51:38 And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless, and at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, for no-nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. She's an outsider to win the French name. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lerabachina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcasts on the I-Hart Radio app.
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