The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - French Montana & Max B on 'Coke Wave 3.5: Narcos,' Max's prison stories & "All The Way Up"

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are FINALLY joined by French Montana and the newly-freed Max B, fresh off their new project 'Coke Wave 3.5: Narcos' hitting the streets January 9th. Joe and Jada welcome Max B hom...e after his 16-year prison term, and Max talks about coping behind bars and a hilarious time he had groups of fellow inmates rapping for him. Also discussed: French's recent marriage to Sheikha Mahra, the princess of Dubai; Max walking out of prison and popping up immediately on the sideline of a New York Jets game; the making of Joe and French's smash hit "All The Way Up," as well as French's hits "Unforgettable" featuring Swae Lee and "Figure It Out" featuring Kanye West and Nas; and the stories behind each of Joe, Jada, French, and Max's rap names. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:01 you think of the streets. You know what I mean? You think of Morocco. You think of the Bronx. You think of Harlem. some of the grimy is blocks. Shout out of the 140th. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:14 You think of influential collaborators that created a wave error. You know what I mean? Something that reflected the hood from fashion to lingo, to melodies, to drama in the street, to plenty of litness.
Starting point is 00:03:38 You know, I mean? The wave. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our gas, French Montana and match Baker Fad.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yo, French. You don't get high no more, but you look like you smoke a little something right now. I'm still high from when I stop.
Starting point is 00:04:02 God damn, that nigga extra high. He got that residue. That mean you had shit and he's still high. You've been clean for years. I was still a little when I stopped.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Let me tell you, before we start, we got to start A sad note, right? But it's really quick. Your dog passed away. That was my God. I used to live vicariously on Instagram watching you with the dog.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Oh, he passed away. And he's the lion. He's the biggest dog getting in the girl. Yeah, it's a bad master. But they don't live that long, though. Oh, I know what I mean? So, yeah, that's my dog, man. My dog champ, man.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I've been through a lot. Yeah, the dog passed away? Yeah. Yeah, but he was like a lion, though. This guy, the biggest dog getting the fucking universe. Yeah, it's a bad master. Yeah. He's seen none of your pets yet.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Because you ain't go to LA. You can't fly yet. You ain't see the monkey yet. He'll be having the monkey on the G6. He's got all type of shit. He's Arab. He's the only person that can really verify the little man, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yo! Yo, French! You French! I forgot about that shit. Yeah. Yo, French. Oh, God. I was my little guy.
Starting point is 00:05:12 That's his name in Morocco. He's in Macari. Yeah, he's like a purse. He's like, I fucking told you. The little man, yo, Max. He's like a little burking bag. Let me tell you said, you see that shit. He ain't lying, though.
Starting point is 00:05:24 You see that fucking chain? Yeah, he's alive. He got a lot. The niz could duck behind a chain. It's a little man. I told you he could wear suit. Like some shit. He's making him like the size of the rewind.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Okay. He just. No, I'm telling you. It's like a little burking bag. Yeah, whoever his. A burkin bag. Yeah, whoever his guardian is, just pick him up over the dress and they go outside. He just pick him up with the dressing
Starting point is 00:05:46 Whoever his guardian is, he probably just be waiting for him by the dressing. He picked him up and he'd go outside. You not listening to me. I got to get over there. He like the size of that bottle. He ain't lying though. But he's a full grown man.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Yo, Vak, can we go find him? Can we go see? Nah, we're going to find him. He in Morocco. He in Morocco, Macraqas. He's in Maccades, right? Yeah, yeah. You know, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Nah, they don't believe me neither. That's not what I'm so about. Is he bigger than this? A little bigger. A little bigger. Yeah. He was hard behind the T.S. Fucking monkey, man.
Starting point is 00:06:21 The monkey. No, no, we're talking to you. No, Matt. You're talking about a human being's grown-ass man that little. This ain't a monkey, back? It's a human being. They say, that's a monkey. He got the monkey.
Starting point is 00:06:32 He got the princess of Dubai. Who, the monkeys. Your friends got the princess of Dubai. Your friends got the princess of Dubai. Shout to the princess. Yo, yo, let me ask you something, right? Because in the hip-hop game and the R&B game, one of the biggest queens at Princesses
Starting point is 00:06:52 is, of course, Janet Jackson. Big Pun's favorite. And Jermaine DePree came in, and I'm looking at him. And I said, how the fuck he bagged Janet Jackson? And her prime six-packed us. A little bit of the answer. He, listen. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Anyway, yo. It's a question. Yeah, yeah. How do you bag? the legitimate princess of Dubai coming from the Bronx. No, no, no, you're not asking me.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Hold on, hold up. Hold on, hold up. Can we just... But it might not be, though, because you ask you Jemaine is like how you catch lightning in the bottle. It's just like, you know, sometimes somebody could look at it like it's a highlight. Frank, hold on, hold up, French. How do you do that big deal?
Starting point is 00:07:36 Your French, why don't you answer the question? You dancing on the Senate? No, no, I'm not. It was one of my homeboys. He plugged me with it in Dubai. He said you want to meet the princess Dubai? I just happened to be in Dubai. And I remember I had seen that she had put up that post
Starting point is 00:07:51 where she divorced somebody. I'm like, I like her. Because it takes a lot of, a lot of guts to throw that up. So she threw that up. I'm like, I like her. He was like, man, I know her. He said he know him? Yeah, yeah, he said he know.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Oh, no. He said he knew a girl that knew her. And I'm like, do what you got to do. So I knew a guy that knew a guy. Sniper gang. No, this is a legendary. You heard the first here, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:18 This is a legendary phone. Hip-hop, when you see that. For answer your question, I think it would be, I think it was easier for him to get the princess than it was easier JD to get Jen Jackson. That's the fact. Yeah, because, you know, he must have been ready.
Starting point is 00:08:32 That was real shit. You know, pause. You know, France wanted to answer months. You know, she probably was scheming on you. I paused. You hit me with the... I've been waiting to do that, Grandfather, you home. Listen, you more than anybody because you're Muslim,
Starting point is 00:08:55 you met so many phony bologna. So many super rich Arabs that say they're the prince, they're the king, they're all full of shit. Yeah, everybody's the shit. Everybody's full of shit. Right, they're all raw. You get. If you got money, you act like you.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yo, this Prince Jaffe Jaffis. What's your name over there? I'm Ali Kashani. He knows I'm... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yo, yo, you know, your friend. My name is Ali Qashani in the Middle East. Al-A-Qa-N-A-Lah.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I am Ali Qashani. Salam al-a-a-a-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-hah. I need a name over this, Lord. I'm Ali Kishani. Yo, Max. I'm Ali Kishani. That's hard. But when I go like this, I say, yo, French with the prince of Dubai.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I said, all right, hold up. So I had to verify, and I said, she the fucking real deal princess of Dubai. Yeah. She's not the people, humans don't see her like that. Max, she came to your welcome home out of jail. She's down to earth. That's shit.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah, she's down to her. Right. She was telling the wife. Everybody was getting along. These people, you know, I know the Royal family, too. I know her family. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:10:08 You know, Snowcat with Joe Crack. one day they came with me and they hung out with me and the brother you here I said yeah they came to the mall right they hung out with me three four hours you know pitching their cheeks all like yo fuck out of it you know we family having the best time in my life I go back to the hotel the promoter you know he paid me crazy money to go out there
Starting point is 00:10:33 I thought he was going to be pissed because I was just gone like I left the man said you know tell me you know the mock tunes. I said, my family, what you're talking about? He said, we've never seen these people in the mall in our life. And I'm walking around
Starting point is 00:10:53 with them, so I know when he did that, I said, they don't even see him. The palace is down the block. Nobody ever see them in human form. It's like Obama on 10,000. Yeah. You don't see them. They're on the money.
Starting point is 00:11:07 They're on the money. They're on everything. No, no, they're on the money. When you go in the hotel, they got the three shakes. Yeah. That's them. But you can see these people in this business we end. Oh, anybody can see anybody in this business.
Starting point is 00:11:22 A man like this walk in the room, they know he's coming in the country. They know he come in town. He go to the club. He got his shit out. Pause. Oh, my God. Not, but you know he did a lot of time. Let me grab my flag.
Starting point is 00:11:37 He did a lot of time. I see this going to be going somewhere else. Like something. Yo, Max, you did a lot of time. What you mean? No, I mean, like, you know, you... I'm not using that no more. You got a legitimate pause.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Like, you got, like... You know, you, you know, you've been gone for a minute. I mean, I mean, but honestly, though, it's like... I had a cell phone to jet. When you... When you... Talk slow to him, Max. I had motion.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Woo! When you come to the States, you see, like, Trump, so you see people like being the president for four years and getting out of office. When you go to places, like that. You talk about people that own the place. Ever. You can, you could buy the houses, but the government still own the place.
Starting point is 00:12:15 They still own everything. Everything. So it's like the own something and they only get passed down to your bloodline. It's like there's a whole different type of love out there. But shout to her whole family. And I'd be out with her sometime. I mean, since I knew, I don't think she ever rocked for one piece of jewelry. That's my gangster. They keep it. One.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Not one. They don't rock like that. I got them a piece one time. My tunes. I got them like the Arabic, the Muslim shit for his birthday. He never. I'm sure he never would. I got him, I iced out. They're good people, man. Shot out of the whole month.
Starting point is 00:12:43 They're the best in the world. Yeah, yeah. And so Max B. How many years, Max B? Well, on this one? 18. This one. This one.
Starting point is 00:12:51 This one. 17 years and 10 months. How many total? And we don't... I did eight New York, so I did 25 years. Well, this was 17. Them being back. All the dudes don't have dissinity.
Starting point is 00:13:05 All the things don't know what's going on after doing that much. Last time I've seen you all. Last time I've seen you all. I was in the club and you had a captain and Teneal hat on. You had some pilot shit. You remember when he rocked a pilot hat? We're in the club. Next day, you're in jail.
Starting point is 00:13:19 I said, what the fuck? I'm looking at you. You a movie. I know your wife is here now, but I'm talking 20 years ago. This is old wife. You had like four white girls with you, and you had a captain into Neil shit on. I'm looking at him in the club. And then he got the pilots hat on.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I said, yo, this nigger big a hell is crazy, but. And so the wave about to take off on the legend. It already took off, but it was about to take off on another legendary form. You sitting in jail. I can't imagine what's that like facing life. You was smelling it when you was about to get the grand prize. How horrible was that? It was something I, but it was something I had to get over like that.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Had to get it just. It was nothing I sat on. It was like next day, it was like, all right, off to the next. How are you going to get the fuck out? That's it. You walked in there and said, I'm bidding. My second rodeo. So I kind of, I knew the ropes.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I had shit going, I mean. I was maneuvering the V. I was behind the scene. I had motherfucket. You know, I did four months. I was running that shit for four months. I was trying to tell you. I know you was good.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Don't let nobody lie to you. But a night before I go to jail, I see your pistol, what's it going to be like for me? He said, man, you Joe the Dawn. Man, it's going to be just like that is there, like it is out here. You don't know no other way to be. He ain't fucking lied.
Starting point is 00:14:43 We went in there. We locked that shit down in the kilometer of a second. You know, Hong Kong Mongolian. Hong Kong's, I had a dude in there called Hong Kongs Mongolian. No, I'm telling you. I'm not even going to throw the flag on that one. No, no, Hong Kong's Montego. Listen, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Unfortunately, in jail, black stick with blacks, Latinos, Latinos with whites with white, Asian with Asian. This guy was like a mess. He was a big white boy and the white people ain't want him because he looked a little slow. Y'all took him in. Snick, a boy. You hear me? They're going to post up on the basketball course, start filing everybody.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I was looking at him. I said, something special about this guy, right? Pause. That was crazy. So I said, yo, I put him down with the team. It's sick. So I say, yo, I put him down with the team. And I say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:38 you Hong Kong's Mongolian. He said, huh? I can't let it go, man. I can't let it go, crack. I said, you Hong Kong's Mongolian. Not the way you drag it though. You know I gave him. You're not listening.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Give him that name or your first time meeting. Dude, used to stand like this. Don't hurt the leg, don't hurt the. Hong Kong's mom. You stay like here. I don't want to say the word. He talks about four. It's on another level.
Starting point is 00:16:10 But what I'm trying to tell you is this guy could take 12 guys in a fight. Like you could just tell you had that boot strength. So I put him down and he shone the table and shit like that. But one day he comes up to me and says, he said, boss, boss, I just realized that Hong Kong and Mongolia's two different places. I said, man, shut the fuck up to joy you're not. The fuck out of here with that shit. Hong Kong.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Go dust the table. Yeah. Bigger Vell, was they asked you mad stupid questions? Like, did you have to put a shutdown and don't ask me? All the time. Open-minded, though. If I fuck what the dude, if his vibe is all right,
Starting point is 00:16:49 he ain't on no cornball shit, I might entertain a nigga conversation. I might entertain a nigga 16. You know what I'm saying? It depends. I was there short. I wasn't want to hear nothing. The mickers ran up.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I said, yo, stay where you at. It's not hip. pop, nigga. They don't want to rap. I broke hearts in the first two minutes. They ran up in that bitch. It was like, yo, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I said, no, no, no. No, this ain't rap. I ain't rapping. No, I don't know. I don't know J-Lo. I have 20 of them niggas in there rapping. Yeah, have a little fun. Just when I'm in the mood,
Starting point is 00:17:25 I'm on some shit, I smoke a joint and get 20 of them niggas in there and start battle rap, be acting crazy. You know the saddest thing I think about when artists go to jail. what was Christmas like 18 Christmas 17 Christmas Are you in there for Happy New Year They quit
Starting point is 00:17:44 They quit That's it You just got to get over them shit That's going to get closer Can't sit up and there like Yeah I'm just like I was home for Christmas I put the Christmas tree up this year Spent Christmas with the family
Starting point is 00:17:57 I wore a sweater drunk drunk egg gnaug I did all that shit this year It happened We got another one me and him. I'm going to talk about, I'm going to talk about the dirty section. You know, we just got... You ain't even let me talk, go. You didn't even let me talk.
Starting point is 00:18:20 That's a force. You got to take the flag back in the second. Listen, what I'm saying is... That was a crazy answer. You know, nobody... You're not listening. Nobody came in the podcast game like Joe and Jada. It's impossible.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Every day the biggest star. the bigger one, the bigger one, the bigger one, the bigger one. We 70 episodes, we like 68 superstars in, and everybody else is online, ready to come. Crazy. Paws, super pause. That one was a disrespect. Now, but there's a part of YouTube that we call the Dirty Section, AM Radio.
Starting point is 00:19:00 He's a good morning, Vietnam. I mean, talking about everybody. violating everybody. They don't care. It's the dirty section. They don't make it the Netflix. You know what I'm saying? They ain't getting to the bag like that, right? They're doing it for, you know, 500 a month for some shit, right? Unfortunately, it's really crabs in the barrel. You come out. You did 20 years. I never heard no dirt on your name. I never heard nothing. But here come the dirty section, trying to throw rumors on your name and all that. And This is the place to address that.
Starting point is 00:19:38 And does it even bother you that it's a family member? God got me right where he won me. After all I've been through that time, and to get back here and doing what I'm doing, do it look like it bothers me? No, not at all. It's just sad. I don't know of any other culture get down like that, like this.
Starting point is 00:20:00 It ain't just you. I see it with big meat. Niggas be disgruntled when they don't get their way, When something don't work for them, they get disgrunt. It's always disgrunt to people. They're not here no more. And everybody think they're in the wave. And then the minute you say,
Starting point is 00:20:16 you know what, this guy's not good for me. And it's lights out. Yeah. It's back to the roaches when you put the lights on and shit. Running around the crib, you fucked up. There's no more Dubai. And so that's when they start trying to dirty somebody's name or some reputation because.
Starting point is 00:20:34 You know what I think? They disgruntled to you. I think salute to you and salute to you and salute to y'all. You came out and the rollout was like nobody rolled out. You couldn't wait. You still rolling out. Yo, that bitch like a genie in a bottle. They like to unrolling.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Dudes come home. How about this? Army coach. Nobody than a shiver. That shit's over. Jimbo's... Hold you for Jimbo's... You kept it up.
Starting point is 00:21:07 You kept the $10,000 with your brother. Yeah. You're right there for him. You got a strong brother. Which is 100 million percent. For my whole number solid... That's a whole different thing. Solid planet.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Listen to me. That's a whole different thing. Everybody ain't got that. Everybody don't do 17 years. I'm still rolling, Nick. Everybody don't do 17 years and your brother waiting for you and he's still up and he putting this shit in play.
Starting point is 00:21:31 What kind of blessing is that? This nigger, know, out of all the motherfuckers on the planet, I got genuine happiness, pure friendship for this nigga. No money, no nothing. I shit is based on straight, solid, friendship, music creation. That's just my nigga. Anything else happened.
Starting point is 00:21:54 So when I'm in jail seeing this thing on TV, I ain't a nigga on fuck, that should have been me. No, I'm in that motherfucker crying with happiness. That's right. this nigga, yeah, look at my nigger. Ah, fuck y'all. That's how I was in there. I mean a lot to him, he mean a lot to me.
Starting point is 00:22:13 That's my nigga. It's real shit. That's it. Because I felt like when you got with Max, that's when the real French Montana was discovered. Yeah. That's when you've been doing it, Coke, DVDs, all that. But I never forget.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I'm in the studio with Cool and Dre. And Dre is like, yo, your man, French is catching the old face. Yeah. We listen to both of y'all. He's a big fan of you, Dre. Yeah, fuck with him. And Dre. And Dre was like, yo, and this guy, Max B,
Starting point is 00:22:40 and we just listening to the show. You know, we just like, yo, this shit crazy and you never turned back. Yeah. Nah, for sure. I mean, it was a wild time, man. I think we first started when I met Max, I think I had the whole cocaine city show, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:57 You were already killing the show, his DVDs. And he already had something going on, too. So when we got together, just like bringing the movement together. You know what I'm saying? It's almost like bringing kids of styles and the sheet together.
Starting point is 00:23:08 It was like that. You know what I'm saying? Rest in peace, chinks. We lost chinks. He was in the mix with us. That's my guy. When he first got the 75, I was rocking out with him for the whole 75.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It wasn't even like, oh, no, oh, I know you're going to get 18 and get it back. I was rocking. He didn't find out he was going to get 18 until probably after what, like 13 years in? Yeah. You brought me out the box one time, Nick. What was that?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Like Philly or something? Up there. I was in locker. They were like, wait and he ain't busy. When can't see me? They pulled me out the box, my man on the window. But he was living spontaneously through me. I would be face-sighted me, you know, calling him with like Vin Diesel,
Starting point is 00:23:47 calling him like, whine him out. He'd be in there, this is Vin Diesel? Yo, what up, Max? No, we be shade. Yeah, yeah, he was living spontaneously through it, man, you know? It's crazy because we was. He's home now, but we was calling Flores the millionaire. He was at.
Starting point is 00:24:02 at the parties. He was like, yo, I'm at the party, nigga. What's going on here? Mary Jay gonna talk. Yo, what's up, nigga? It was like, he got to party. You got two or three spectators you trust watching the face. Like, yo, this shit crazy to me. Yo, it's on. I mean, it's nothing like that. At French, first of all, I'm looking at all of them diamonds. And I'm saying to myself, you like it? Do you like it? No, I'm thinking. Save a little beast You know I took the demo The Form Master Flex
Starting point is 00:24:35 You never save a little beast for late You're rich a long time I'm throwing a flag on you Yo French You're French All type of wealth I know where you live Not a little beast
Starting point is 00:24:51 I ain't a lot I ain't a lot Crack a real one Crack a real one Let's go French That's say I can That's more than diamonds That's more than gold
Starting point is 00:25:00 that's more than anything I could give you. It was always like that. Nah, no, I could take a gift. Fuck that. Fuck that. A little piece for later. I can take a gift. Let me get a little peace for later.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I look at it myself, French, Montana, Princess Dubai. I'm ready to get a job with this nigga right there. I'm sitting there. I said, damn, man, save a little beast for later. And for your guys who don't know, French was having a heart. time getting his music on the radio, on the box. And I went up there and had a serious, serious conversation with Funk Flex.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Because he was, y'all was already on fire. Yeah, he had just got, now he had just got locked up. You was already on fire. Blackballed. Yeah, I was, I was Blackball. What I'm saying is, I was Blackballed even more. Listen, they blackballed me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I had beef with the biggest dudes you ever seen in your life. Yeah. And they was like, yo, he can't get that. He can't. Joe made it through the Chitlin circuit with number ones. Number one in America. They was like, no, you perform in Alabama. You go to PA.
Starting point is 00:26:10 You can't get on this tour. Like every tour I was trying to get on, they was like, yo, you can't. What? Lockage. Super facts. I never cried about it. But I go up there, he was my son's favorite rap.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And I say, yo, and he played it in six months later, that shit was pop that, pop that pussy. Pop that. You took off in six months. It went from Shot Caller to pop that. We never turned back. Grind it out, though. He grinded. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet.
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Starting point is 00:29:08 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.
Starting point is 00:29:21 But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
Starting point is 00:29:44 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel. Help an
Starting point is 00:30:20 a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the eye heart. Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris, every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Genshin win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French, me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,
Starting point is 00:31:37 embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, I see the fridge at summer gym, I think you got shot in the head. I can't even believe that you had to gumption.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I said, this thing is going to get, this thing is destined. You had to shit on your head and all that? No, there's, I had the shit on the red. He had the scars. But I'm saying, this nigga's going to get rich. There's no way I wouldn't win this. That ain't supposed to time getting shot. That's a thing from Morocco.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Ah! What the fuck is that mean, man? The shoe thing is. See, Morocco ain't all right? It's a shit. Yeah, my whole lot. Let me tell you, sir. I go to Maccadash.
Starting point is 00:32:31 This is the time I met the little man. Marrakesh, man. Marrakech. But you know fast, yo, French, you're fuck everything up. I'm fried. But listen,
Starting point is 00:32:40 I get in the car. They booked me to do a show. And they drive into the desert for like two hours straight. And they talk in Arabic. And I said, I said, the Taliban.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I got set up. I thought it was the Tally. I thought it was the Taliban. Like, they just talked to them. It wasn't. Two hours French in Machinette. Into the desert.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Like, I'm really. seeing fucking camels and all that. It's nothing. Nothing. Not a gas station. Nothing. I'm driving in for two days.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And then you got to know this place. They pull up in the shit like an oasis. Yeah. They got villas there. Yeah. And I'm like, thank God. I walk up in that business. Like, you got the biggest villa fat, Joe, this.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I was like, yo, what the fuck? I for sure I was kidnapped. Yeah. I'm looking out the window. I'm like, damn, man, he didn't put me on. on the screen, they're there, fat jumping. I'm done, nigga. They're about to chop my shit off.
Starting point is 00:33:40 No, America's got a lot of desert. You've been to that place when I'm talking about, right? Like, it's like in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, it's like a hotel in the middle of the desert. A hotel in the middle of nowhere. Oasis? Yeah, it is an oasis. Yeah, I forgot the name, but I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:33:53 How's your brother, man? Oh, he's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shot to Zach. Shot to Zach. Yeah, yeah. You could probably get the princess to get him a diplomatic immunity. We're trying.
Starting point is 00:34:04 We're trying. Yeah, we're trying every... Did Sean just get that all? Man, Sean did... He's almost like... He's almost like you. You came home and you got right to a shot. You know, Sean was a set of Jew.
Starting point is 00:34:18 He did it all. He made sure he was getting back in the... That shit was impossible. He came back. That came back. He was being like his third time. Oh, Sean? Zat!
Starting point is 00:34:29 Oh, yeah. Through my nigga out of the country about three times. times or be the ex-out my dicking. But he's back. But he's good over there. When he wanted to have big fun, he'd go to Dubai then, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:41 He could go to Europe, Dubai, shit like that. Hell yeah. You know, you're in Paris, fashion week. Morocco better than being in jail, so I tell him all the time. Way better than me. My told Max, right before you got here, you're our first late customer. Oh, how bad. First ever.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I really thought he was on rap hours. I was like, yeah, he just telling me 12, because then I'll be two hours late. setting French. My bad. It's a family show, man. I know y'all my two favorite people in the world. Don't, no, don't. But we're not doing good, man.
Starting point is 00:35:11 This thing has been up. We're not here. But that's what I'm saying, right? I tell Max. Max come out, what they call it? It ain't court side. What's the shit when you're on the field? Side line.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Side line. He was on that old football. I don't know football like that. I met Shador. Shado! Shado! Shado! Shat the door. You come right out of the gym. when you're on the sidelines.
Starting point is 00:35:34 LV. Don't forget that. The Instagram going crazy. The point is you had a hell of two months. The hype around him is almost like where 50 said just had the mixtapes. And it was like, all right, let's hear his single. Because that's what they want, Max. I'm telling you, you're beyond talented.
Starting point is 00:35:55 You got it to put it out. Nobody got flows like you. Nobody rap flow like you. You crazy. I'm telling you, as a hip, pop fan. I don't heard your music, the flows, the melodies, the dist at that. But if you come with that, go shorthy. It's your birthday. We're gonna, when you come with one of those,
Starting point is 00:36:16 you'll be walking into Louis Vuitton Paris runway. That's how big. You know, right now it's great. Moms and pops, everybody taking care of you. They're getting you to the bag. But you got a silver surfer bag if you put it out the park. If he come with one of them African joints? Yeah. We might have one.
Starting point is 00:36:38 We might have one. We might have one, but you know what's one. It's a lot of, it's a lot of storm. Yeah, we got a lot of music. My first 30 days out, I gave him a 20 plus 24 song
Starting point is 00:36:50 mixtape my first day out. That's crazy. I didn't have no hours in the day. And got my kids with me every day. Wife every day. Still went there and gave niggins a urge. And we got another one coming out with 22 joints on it. So slow to me.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Now, the joint, me and bro did, you're going to hear it just, and just do this. And y'all going to go back to the first shit I did, and it's going to do that again. I'm not worried about that. There's new shit about the dog the streets. I'm just predicting a dog out. Straight dog in the fuck out. Top the bottom, dog out, music, singles, videos, the rollout, boom. As soon as I think it's over, I'm going to come smack out with a million-dollar baby.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Dog, y'all nigs the fuck out there. Then we got another wave guard album dropping. Then I'm doing another mixtape. Don Snow. So it's a lot of store. I never stop. I have unlimited classic wave. Because you know why?
Starting point is 00:37:55 Max B., he had guard in the streets in New York, especially Harlem. Shout out to my nephew Beattie and all I see y'all playing this day and night. There's a global interest in Max B. And so that's what I'm trying to say is if you put one out the park, it's a different bag. I thought I retina that every day. No, you got that hard drive with them joints. You got to show me how to do that. I retell them.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Listen, you got that. But listen, when Flojo came out, I was getting $500 a show. It was number one in America. And I was going to Connecticut, Austin, Jersey. The next day is Yonkers. Yeah, was in D.C. That was in 93. It was no money in the rap game.
Starting point is 00:38:42 With the number one. Damn, that's crazy. No money. The money's out there now, big. In another way. They'll paint you in silver, and you'll be on a surfboard going through Madison Square Garden
Starting point is 00:38:55 on the fucking silver surf on that bitch. This is a different type of, them reggae tone niggins. They hit one and they get in a half a million in the show. One song. Yeah. You know, and I'm trying to figure out, French. What is it? Velvet? The pants right there?
Starting point is 00:39:10 Lisa, the boy got his own money. Yeah, Velvet. I don't think Newbuck. They're Velvet. Newburgh can be too heavy. I'll tell you about the Bronx. You don't know how to act, French. You get a bronze person somewhere.
Starting point is 00:39:26 You see how Cardi B. Be becoming shitting boat taker, Yeah, start the car. The fucking ankle with the boots to match with the... You give a Bronx dude, somebody. You're a girl. They don't know how to act. Tell you.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Their boy French coming in here, this shit, looking like fucking exotic emirous and shit. They just killed the fur. Time. We got to get that hit, Max. We get that hip. Crack and all about them his. I told you, I surrendered.
Starting point is 00:39:55 It's funny. You know, you told me out there I surrender. And what's crazy is last night. I was sleeping. I sleep with the TV on. And I turn and I see literally, literally it got to be millions, millions of white people
Starting point is 00:40:13 jumping up and down singing the words. And I look on, I don't know who the fuck these guys are. It's a rock group. So I look at the shit, I say, what the fuck? He was a million people. And they all were singing going crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And then the hook. come and the name of the hook was I surrender. He's the food fighters. Crazy. And it was called I surrender. He told me today, y'all, I surrender. I said, yo, that might be you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:41 You got to tap into that. However that makes you feel. I just make it one way. I could never go in it. What is the process? That's probably the weakest part of my game to go in there and say, yo, listen to a beat that I don't do, but you're going there and be some produce.
Starting point is 00:40:57 They'd be like, you'll do this record right here. and it'll be a hit record. I might not like the track, though. If I can't die with the track, I'm not going to do this shit. I did it. I sold out. I know. This is why I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:41:10 This is why I surrendered. I made it number one that I can't stand. The white people love it. It went number one. That's the decision we got to be. You want to sing that same record over and over or you want to? That's how I was looking at it. I did it.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I'm ready to sing the record. We mechanically. sold out. Like we went and we said, all right, we need a beat that sounds like this. We need to get the homie on this hook. We need to rap like this and the shit really went number one.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Like we cloned the, like we made a number one that wasn't from the heart. Like, Lean Back was a mixtape song that just went number one. You know, I don't give a fuck about your fault. Something that happened. That went organic. But I made the number one that I'm disgusted
Starting point is 00:42:01 And I know what you said Because every time I hear it and they want to hear it The white is like, ah, but you got it shit went number one Independent when you made Lean Back? No, I was independent make your brain So you know what happened to me is a famous story So I'm in Atlantic Records And I'm selling 2 million brackets
Starting point is 00:42:22 And I'm the big, they had a poster of me Six floors Where I had the orange level a shirt, I had the lion medallion, and I walk up in there every day so cocky, put out an album, the shit flop. They took off that poster so fast, and they threw a T.I. join up. This is the new guy, T.I. I'm like, yo, this major label shit is disgusting, bro. Right now, at that time, going independent, they were giving you $7 a CD.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I sold a half a million. They called me a failure. a half a million people went to the store and bought that shit. And I said, you know what? If I get $7 for a half a million, I make $3.5 million, it's more than the $500,000 or the million dollars
Starting point is 00:43:14 they're giving me to do the whole album. So I go back the next day. I say, yo, I don't know if y'all know I started out digging in the crates. I'm going back to my underground. We ain't got to worry about me. You'll never hear from fat. No, again.
Starting point is 00:43:27 I'm never making a hit again. I'm done. Make it rain. Four million records on the masses with the fucking independent. The money was coming so much, French. I'm kicking it safe and to close the shit. I'd be like throwing my wife just bundles of money.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Like, go spend. Go shop. This shit crazy. I'm like, yo, I can't close the safe. It was ringtones. When the ringtone shit first came out, that shit went four million on them. That was the next, I know they wanted to commit suicide.
Starting point is 00:43:59 When I left, it was make it rain. Four million sold. That's crazy. Independent. I've been independent ever since. We win every time. You know, these record labels ain't nothing but a bank. But they make you believe a hit won't go without them, though.
Starting point is 00:44:11 It's a lie. Yeah. All the way up went. Yeah. We just got a new commercial ESPN 10 years later, ESPN, ABC. I'm all the way up. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. The story about all the way up is crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Oh, I want to hear the story about all the way up. Yeah. me here. French is on the only way up. Get that. Let me hear it. Nah, no, hold on, kiss. Now, kiss coming back. I'm going to tell him the story. So I'm just sitting back in the crib. Crack him, I don't know it. Like, yo, come by Cool and Dre's Studio.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I got this joint. It's out of here. This is the one. I go to the studio. We knock it out. I'm not thinking none of it. The shit come out. Take all. Boom. We're doing shows. Even Drake came in my. I was telling you, boy, hit me. Like, yo, I need a verse on that. Yeah, look, I need a verse on that.
Starting point is 00:44:59 So it was one of them. One time he and Crack doing a big-ass show. That's how I know he was a real one. I'm like, yo, Crack, I never really told you, but I checked through my lawyer. He told me I ain't get no publishing on that song. I had zero publishing on that song. I said, yo, Craig, I know you're not running business like that.
Starting point is 00:45:19 He was like, French, what you want me to do? I said, when I did the song with you, I was like, my brother got me. I ain't got to worry about nothing. Crack was like, you know what? He called his lawyer right on the spot. you know what French here. I forgot what you gave me.
Starting point is 00:45:31 10%. But the thing is... I think it was five. It was five. No, it was 10%. It was 5. It was 5. That's after the fact, right?
Starting point is 00:45:42 Nah. 10%. You fucking got 10%. But you didn't... But you did that, though. Of course. You did that, though. You did that.
Starting point is 00:45:54 It happened to me, and that's after. The paperwork. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He went back to change it. When he's moving. This day. He come and sit next to me. We had a ward show.
Starting point is 00:46:02 He said, next to me. But you forgot how you told me. How I told you? You said, yo, crack. You know what's that million dollar voice that made that shit. Go! He said, I look at French.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I said, why? He was like, yo, I put that million dollar gloss on that bitch. I said, all right, let's call a lawyer now. It's unacceptable. You know, with me, I don't feel good if my people don't make money with me. You knew JR, rest of peace.
Starting point is 00:46:31 J.R. R. Riders changed my whole life. It's a billionaire. I was with every day for five years. Yeah. Right? And he taught me everything about business. And the biggest thing he taught me is that everybody got to eat. You go to my stores. The managers.
Starting point is 00:46:46 The seminars you used to do? Yes, the seminars, market America. But J.R.'s a billionaire, a genius. He made sure everybody made money. And then he was good. Record label. that? It's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:47:00 When Remy came home, you know, it was a struggle. Me and her. Leanne and Rem were struggling, right? So I'll sit down in the cross and listen, let me tell you something. I know I'm hallucinating guys. Don't get mad at me in podcast world, but I told her, yo, me and you,
Starting point is 00:47:15 we like Dr. Dre and Snoke. If we hit one out the park, we're out of here. Before lean back? No, there's after lean back. Lean back. If lean back, Was in Instagram era?
Starting point is 00:47:29 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God, it's a different type of animal. Old ladies would have been doing it. Beyond, we'd have been buying Yankee Stadium. Imagine all the girls on Instagram right now if she was a model for a year and a half. And if she got it, that shit would go down to her ass. Man. TikTok.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yep, bro. What? Y'all knew them joints was the ones. Every one of them joints y'all put out, y'all knew it was the ones. I knew everything. Ooh. It was, too. For real, though?
Starting point is 00:48:07 It wasn't one that you was like, I don't know. The one real thing, the record label ever taught me, Craig Kamen, he said, yo, you're not Beyonce. He said, you can't put out two, three songs. He says, if it hits, we'll get another video. We'll get another song. We'll put the bag behind it. he taught me that I got to get a hit every time.
Starting point is 00:48:30 So I was thinking like a program director. Oh, I used to go to South Carolina and watch little kids running across the grass and all that. And play those songs there and say, if these kids can hear this on a Sunday, this shit out of here. And that's how I will pick a hit every single time. Right. And so I train myself to pick a hit. That's what you're saying. you don't do.
Starting point is 00:48:56 You just go in there naturally do her, do songs, and then if it go, it go. You know, I heard a lot of artists say that. I just treat them like, I don't try to make a hit. That's not what I'm going. I just go with a good joke. And if it happened, it happened.
Starting point is 00:49:12 It would take a nigga, like, to come in there, like, oh, he'd come in and go through the, though, that's the one. That's some shit. Or he'll come play some shit all the time. Like, the shit we just did. Shot the video for the last night.
Starting point is 00:49:25 We got death on the bitch coming out. That's some shit. You know, shout out Boobie the boxer. That's how I'm that. Yeah, shout to Boobie, yeah. Pund's cousin. Yeah. You and Boobie was super tight.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Crazy. Pun used to come and play as the albums on 183, right about a basketball court. I know a pun used to pull up with his bins. He used to have the custom made seat. He used to come in and they just put that capital punishment on. And it was even before capital punishment when he came out with the mix tape that y'all drop. before that with the cassette tape. It was like the six joints on it.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Well, you've been around French. You know why I say that is because Pund would drive to Miami. Great. And played DJ Caled his album or his songs. He would go all the way to Miami. He trusted Callard's ear before all of us. Crazy. And I played all the way up for Callet.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Mm-hmm. And Cala sat in the speaker and I said, yo, this the one. He was like, I really don't know. I said, motherfucker, get the fuck out the studio, nigga. I'm putting the bag. up, I'm independent. This shit is the one.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Just before that, I was fucked up. I did like four months of the Fed. They took all my money, millions of dollars. Imagine you looking at your bank for 10, 15 years, and you cake the fuck up. And one day you looked and that shit down like this. They took all my money, penalties, this, this, that. And I already paid the account in the fucking money. She, at least you were still in the game.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Oh, no. I came home like you in a different way. There wasn't no people there. There wasn't no football field. No, none of that shit. I went right to Cool and Jay Studio and Jay told me, yo, we're going to work. And I'm sitting up in there
Starting point is 00:51:05 and they got the little niggas with the pink hair and the red. It was that turn. Party like a rock star. And little pumps and all arm and they up in there. They're looking at me like, what the fuck this old nigga doing in this studio?
Starting point is 00:51:18 Yeah. It was getting one. And I said, man, like you always do. Get one. I think I was talking about your leg too much. I fucked my leg up. We now have the Euro step.
Starting point is 00:51:30 My shit is Euro. Let me tell you something, man. And super pause. I'll throw it right now, but I'm a little light on my ass. I'm 2.30 right now. You look good. I'm 2.30. Pause.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Let me get 25. I feel magnificent. I was just watching the interview with you interviewing Big L. I had it. Crazy. Yeah. About two weeks before. I came out, they had the fullback joint show
Starting point is 00:51:58 and they played got a flow joke. You had that big army on. That was that big shirt. He had the big surrey on. Nah, my fucking playing with them like that. You know, I'm trying to stick around. Yo, Fritz. What's so with Afcom?
Starting point is 00:52:12 I was that. What was that like? I ain't never, I never do nothing that big in Morocco since I left Morocco when I was 13. So it was kind of like of a moment. You know what I'm saying? I went there. It's like 2 billion people.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Shit. Two billion? Yeah, like 2 billion viewers. Oh, views. Yeah, yeah. And there was like 70,000. Yeah, like 70,000. That was the shot at the way.
Starting point is 00:52:34 That was the biggest hand. You gave me, I could move to Morocco and live forever for free off of your strength. I got on the plane to Roy, what's it called? What's the airline? Royal Morocco. Pilot came out. Use with French Montana. I see, that's how you have.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Boy, the motherfuckers slew that bitch so smooth over there. That shit laying so smooth. over there, Morocco. Man, and they got the man's. I'll let you finish it. The man go like there, huh? For hours and shit. You eating in the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:53:05 He's spending some shit. Right? The guy with the, what is that called? Nah, I never seen that word. You never seen that. What is that called? There's a guy. No, yes.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Dizzy, like, there's a guy he got the fucking string on his head with the, like. Oh, yeah, yeah. That'd be playing the shit. No, they go like this for hours. You'd be like, oh, is this the dude, Dizzy yet? You eating all the type of fucking baba canoos, and all type of shit. And then keep going like this.
Starting point is 00:53:32 You got a tough job. He got the string. He keeps sitting at that joint. He got the string. He keeps that shit moving. Yeah, it's tradition, yeah. Oh. Yeah, so it was the opening game, Morocco.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Red One had hit me. He had produced all the music over there. He was like he had DeVito. One got that. Yeah, yeah. So Red One, he runs off. You know, because he's Moroccan. So the king let him run.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Who thought he was Jamaican? Nah. He produced Jamaican songs But he's Moroccan He did all the Lady Gaga music Yeah, so the king grabbed him To do all the music for the Afghans For the African Cup
Starting point is 00:54:07 And he just hit me like a week before the joint He'll like y'all got the biggest single Come hop on it Come perform We want you to perform So I went there The King came to watch it It was like a moment
Starting point is 00:54:17 I took Mom dukes over there And he was just like you know It was a big moment Never been a more famous Moroccan ever Right I mean in a humble way Yeah yeah Yeah now that I think
Starting point is 00:54:25 I mean, that really, I mean, there is that went Europe, like different parts of the world. But as far as, like, the mecca of music, that somebody that came here and did not. I got to take an old man piss. Morocco is playing Brazilian, Brazil for the World Cup. Yeah, that's crazy. And Jersey. They probably go to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got to go.
Starting point is 00:54:46 That's big. The Morocco was never this big in soccer until, like, the past couple years. Soccer was never this big. Yeah. Like, I think soccer is. It's always huge. They call it football with it. I think the sports market.
Starting point is 00:54:59 And now it's coming over. In general. Broaded. All of it. Every sport. You got a female basketball. Yeah. All that shit.
Starting point is 00:55:06 All that shit. Yeah. The TV deals, the commercial deals. I think when Morocco made it to the semifinals in the World Cup, I think it was a moment where everybody was like, you know what? Getting on board. Yeah, yeah, we belong here. Even, like, the low market teams got, like,
Starting point is 00:55:22 they stadiums be lit. It is. It's sold out. It ain't like it used to be. Remember, you used to watch. Certain teams, you know those shit. You watch like Atlanta game. Yeah, nobody.
Starting point is 00:55:31 You ain't see nobody. That's like there. That's shit is lit. It's the market for every. Yeah. You right about that. A lot of arenas that were small markets that used to be, they only show one patch because the people's only,
Starting point is 00:55:43 now that them shit is lit. They sold you right. That was like one of the shit. I used to like seeing jail. When I be watching TV and shit, I'm like, yo, the world is evolving. The economy, the money, the market, you know what I'm saying? It's the whole shit is like an internet.
Starting point is 00:56:01 You really could come out here and do what you want. From the crib. Like, for real, you really just got to put your foot in some shit and go. That's some shit, though. Yeah, but messy, messy coming to Miami. Morocco and see a soccer game. Got to. I call this P.O. for the last game.
Starting point is 00:56:19 I was like, yo, let him come. Like, nah. Yeah, I'm working on that. I'm about to get that pass. I was trying to get you out there. I couldn't wait to get you out there. Working on some things. Yeah, work up to summer.
Starting point is 00:56:28 You ain't got to go nowhere. Morocco. Morocco playing. I was like to go to Morocco. Yeah, we got to. Whoever the fuck crack call, or whatever that city is. What are you saying?
Starting point is 00:56:37 Nakash. That's my ass. Fucking start speaking languages. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news.
Starting point is 00:56:52 We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 00:57:06 So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
Starting point is 00:57:27 We were talking about a thing. a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman helped make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:58:18 The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jenchian win. I mean, she went down at three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court-side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
Starting point is 00:59:11 It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Maybe you definitely said before, but something I want our audience, because we suck a free this audience. We're killing these niggins in the podcast, right? They all sick. Hey, yo, fuck all these things. I want to smoke with all of you. I can't really respond to the dirty section.
Starting point is 00:59:57 in the AM radio. Good morning, Vietnam. We need them niggas over there. The biggest over there in that AM section. Band from TV. Van from TV, go dirty yourselves up. Fuck that. But that why you do that?
Starting point is 01:00:12 When I heard that why you do that, I said, Jesus Christ, man. This shit incredible. And the name, Bigger Valley, could you break down the name? It may be a weird little call. I love it. So when I first started doing music,
Starting point is 01:00:32 and I knew I could write, I was like, all right, now you need a name. I always thought the name is like very significant when it comes to an artist. Absolutely. Need a name that ring that people are going to love and respect. What type of music you're trying to put out there? So why not?
Starting point is 01:00:52 I said, how would I sound if I mix these three niggas together, Big jigger and Magaveli. Not two pop, Magaveli. That's the late pop. It was a difference. Talking about that late pop, and seven-day theory pop. 73 niggas.
Starting point is 01:01:11 That was it. So I came up with Max Bigger Valley. Biggerbelly. Fucking incredible. What a name. Jada. How did you came up with Jada kiss? Cracker Jackson.
Starting point is 01:01:26 It said Jada kiss? Jesus. Nah, I knew. I wanted to ask you that shit. Starting to believe you. You got me the turkey. You got me. I'm starting to believe him.
Starting point is 01:01:37 He got me the turkey chops. He got me the turkey chops. He brought Johnson's fried chicken in here. I'm starting to believe you. That's got it. Nah, no. Shout out to my man, Rod Lee. I chilled on the block with older dudes.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yeah. And one day, he just came outside. Somebody must have called them or beeped him or asked him. who was on the block. And he starts saying, he started giving everybody names. But he said, and that kid Jada kiss me.
Starting point is 01:02:07 I just kept. Oh, he said it like that. Yeah. And I went out there. Kay, day, this, that. A kid Jada kissing. Me. I got a nice, man.
Starting point is 01:02:18 We see if I could make it mean. Yeah. They do. It did. French, and what made you, Tony Montana? No, I mean, when I,
Starting point is 01:02:27 when I first came from, Morocco, I used to speak French, and I moved to the Bronx. And they used to have all these Africans on my block on Ellsman. And they always used to be talking to me in French. Every time I come out, they're like, they go bonjour. This is going bonjour first. And after that, they start calling me French. Then, you know, after I realized I couldn't, you know, go to college or play ball or none of that,
Starting point is 01:02:49 I started hustling. Couldn't get no scholarships and that. So that's how I got it. So French was from Ellesmere, Montana, just hustling. You know, it's crazy because I thought you was nice and ball. right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're playing ball.
Starting point is 01:03:01 My knee bad. This shit, that nigga's a fry right now. He don't went to touch and Keko's too many times. That nigga to ran in the city. I got the Joe crack legs now. I can't play ball no more. I can't play ball no more. Yeah, so I'm sitting my kneecap.
Starting point is 01:03:18 I can't jump like I used to. I'm done. I don't know what you're done, but you was dead nice in basketball. Me, I was always fat Joey. Yeah. I was born. I had a bunch of letters, some colleges. I was trying to figure out, but there was a nine.
Starting point is 01:03:30 You had good qualities. I had good qualities. Yeah, but they were like, yo, that's fat Joey. I didn't even call myself Fat Joey. That old block called me Fat Joey. You always take the name your people get you. Yeah, yeah, you can't. You made your shit, but it's fine.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Usually you don't get to make your nickname. Nah, I don't. And people give it to you when it stick. Yeah. You can make you, you made your shit. You should is clad. Because I was going for something. That shit took game.
Starting point is 01:04:02 They didn't just pop. I had like four other names before that. They ain't right. They didn't work. My first shit was Fettuccini. Ooh. First, my ship on the hood, Charlie Rambo. No doubt.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Charlie Ramble, I heard that. Ali boom, boom. Charlie Ramble. Fettuccini, Fedlaught, Fettigran, Mr. Big Yard. Oh, Mr. Big Yard. It's great. Mr. Big Yard.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Grand Star, gets a little. Nice. So now I was listening to your shit, I used to dive in y'all, nigga shit, Paul. No doubt. But I couldn't, y'all, y'all.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I loved y'all's nigga shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was looking for mine. You beat me to it. My bad. Yo, I was so on. Y'all shit, right? I didn't want it to rub off into my shit.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Oh, my God. Whoa. Yeah. Oh. He turned. He's dead. He fried. I didn't want to.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I didn't want to see me. Yeah. So I had to distinguish my Sam. So as hurtful as it was, I had to stop listening to my locks. So doubt. That's respectful. So I can get better.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Because, you know what I'm saying? As I start getting better, around, like, 2001, 2000, I came with the name Max, Max B. But guess what? I didn't know with the B. I didn't have no name for the B. When I came out of 03, 05, 04,
Starting point is 01:05:27 I caught the little violation. I went back up for 10 months and I was writing like a dog and that's when the shit came to him. Nobody had more than area. Big Al. Big Al, that's Lamar. We went to school.
Starting point is 01:05:39 He's the same class. Lamar. So you knew his brother. Lee? Yeah. You know his brother was not legend. He was giving it up.
Starting point is 01:05:48 He was giving it up. Legend out there. Listen, man. Them 39 boys was all they was all terrorizing shit. And I'm going to keep a real. When Air went, but rest of peace, that's bro.
Starting point is 01:05:59 When Elle first came through, we didn't appreciate it. We took his joint, we flinging them off the roof. It didn't take me to like 10 years ago to really understand the significance of Big Al shit and how nice he was. He was nasty.
Starting point is 01:06:15 He was super nasty. But it took me, it took maturity. Flamboyant. To go into that. Manboin. I don't master my sound. Now I can go back and listen to this. now. I know how nothing
Starting point is 01:06:28 never sound like nobody. But now I can listen again. Bigel would call me, like, yo, I got beef on the block. And we would go over there in the white van, ugly. And we jump out. He'd be, hold up. Crills. We're ready to tear that shit up. One-on-one.
Starting point is 01:06:46 I'm like, well, he's like, well, who? It'd be the biggest dude on the block. He'd fight him one-on-one. I'd be like, you know, hell, you want to fight this guy? Like, are you... No, I know him. He wasn't the dirty guy. He would fight him one-on-one. We got the animals in the van. Man, he used to fight my brother.
Starting point is 01:07:01 And my brother was a nut. But Elle wasn't like, you know, he wasn't running around on the- No, he's fight. You know, he never wanted to set nobody up if he knew you like that. He'd be like, because we're coming in the van. Early fat Joe. Three fat Joe. We got taco.
Starting point is 01:07:16 We got this. He's like, oh, whoa, whoa, it's one-on-one. And they always be the biggest guy in the world. I'm not going to say he won. But Al Fordham, one-on-one. I was out there when he got. I killed. Cam and them was out there too. I seen them on the floor. That was like the saddest shit, man. But Elle, man, he had so much coming, man. His future was really, really, really,
Starting point is 01:07:39 really bright. He did whatever, man. But shout out the hall. He's a lot of love now. And his flow never got outdated. Like, the way he rap back then, he was, people were just rapping like that now. He was accustomed to. I'm trying to tell you, I went back and had one of his joints like a few months ago, and it just gave me a whole different feel. I was like, damn. You know, Phinez discovered him. So Finesse was the hottest rapper in New York.
Starting point is 01:08:05 And it was different from us. We partying, you're going, Charlie, baby. Fennesse, the crowd standing there waiting for the, ooh. Yeah, crazy. Oh, like this grown man, that's all they wait. And he's going there and freestyle, they're like, Lord, Finesse is the man that you got to hear, flowing the, ooh!
Starting point is 01:08:25 the whole crowd, like every punchline, no, every punchline was dramatic. And when he said, yo, I found this kid from Harvard. I didn't even know that. No, no, yes. That's crazy. He said, that's how he's digging in the crates. Yeah. You know, and man, that man, Big L came out in that first song.
Starting point is 01:08:44 That first show was up there, like, Broadway and like over there by Marble Hill. Big L. spit his fucking ass off. The whole crowd, they was there for the, ooh, ah, ah. Imagine he come up in there, the baby finesse at the time. And he tore that shit down. He's the only artist I ever did his song with this. He's going to rip me down on the song and take all my fans. We had DVD, D&D.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Primo drew the beat to the enemy. I had just went gold for the first time. So he sits me down. He's my little brother. He says, listen, I'm here to take all your fans. That's some Harlem shit, right? I'm here to take all your fans. I need it.
Starting point is 01:09:26 So just know, come with your very best right now because I'm gonna go crazy on you on this song. And that's my favorite rhyme I ever said in my life because I was on a spot. You remember that Lord of the Underground, freestyle dishwrecking you did? Oh, yeah, you remember that for Finesse. They're good guys now, man. The Lords of the Underground.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Wow. You as well. You as well. You as well. Because, you know, they caught beef with Finesse. Because it was Lord Finesse. For some reason, the lords of the underground, they try to go at Finesse.
Starting point is 01:10:00 And you know, it's like every, I didn't mind my business. I was a wild thing just coming in. Damn, man, I hope they don't resurf. That shit don't resurface. They're good people. It is what it is. Your friends, you had enough battles, huh?
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit was like, well, right now we really not into nothing of shit we used to be into. But I think, so, so y'all was the first one to really actually start drill rap. Because drill rap is basically who was the first
Starting point is 01:10:30 emcees to start beefing, right? Because they were telling us... That's Kumodee. Yeah, that's Kumodee. Kumodee started your busy beat. Busy beat. Busy beat and Kumasdy. But they say
Starting point is 01:10:42 the first gangster rapper was Ice T. And then KRLS was the second one. We Googled that shit, right? I don't know who we is. We Googled that shit. Icey was the first gangster. the rap I think. The first rapper with a diss song was I see?
Starting point is 01:10:58 No. The first thing in talking about. First of all, they were dissing each other. Every battle. Every jam had battles. Cold Crush against the romantic. Them niggas, they've been battling forever. But the first big battle was Kumo D and Busy B.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Busy B was like a Max B. Life of the Party ever for an hour. I don't know if you remember the old school movie, he spelt his name with the money. He was Busy B. Busy B was rocked a party. Crazy. And your man, a young Kumo D came up and there
Starting point is 01:11:28 was like that bar to the bar, take that shit on home. His shit was like, his hit. His lean back was to the bob to the bob, the bang to bang. He said something in and on, take that bar to the bar. I always thought it was MC Shaman. Carrez that started the first hour. That was a little bit. That's a little bit.
Starting point is 01:11:45 They put a picture in Instagram yesterday, Carus 1. And they said, what comes to mine? I immediately wrote South Bronx South South Bronx I looked at the comments and they was like let me begin there were just over
Starting point is 01:12:00 then they come and they're like are you a philosopher oh there is so many KRS quotes I don't think nobody repeated the quotes like every song was you must learn
Starting point is 01:12:11 my main man Rob now what you what the fuck am I you remember that love's gonna get your love's gonna get you love's gonna get you love what he said fuck school
Starting point is 01:12:22 A G-A-Wee. Fuck school, your love's gonna get you. G-A-Wik, it finished you right now. A G-A-W-A-W-E-A-D-W-E? Shot the Jamaica. He was chaking up with a G-A-W-W-E-W-W-Ban. That was somebody Jamaican who started hip-hop. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Shout to Jamaica. Oh, you didn't know that. No. Who hurt? Yeah. But I didn't even know he was Jamaican, though. So shot the Jamaica. He's a big hand.
Starting point is 01:12:44 That nigg is like a fucking giant. And he's the most solid one of all the founders. Crazy. You know, he's a real nigger. Cool-work. Yo, when the Bronx, when the Bronx looked like Vietnam, where all the buildings was blown out and burned in it. That name got the convertible with the fucking speakers in the back
Starting point is 01:13:03 driving through the Bronx when the shit looked like Vietnam. The train still had spray paint on. Big time before the spray train or something. That was before graffiti. That nigga was out there with the convertible shit like a darn. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. He had to caddy, the big shit, he was riding around.
Starting point is 01:13:24 He was driving through the shit. This is cool, hurt, the founder of hip. Yeah. Well, just to know, somebody Jamaican created a hip-hop. And in Jamaica, they don't even do hip-hop. It's kind of crazy. Well, I can tell you something that's crazy, right? I don't want nobody to kill me at the deli.
Starting point is 01:13:40 But every Sunday, I go to the Italian deli, go get the olives, the turkey, to everything. So there's a man there that's like the rain man. He's a customer. He stands there and he just fucks everybody. No, the man starts telling me the rain man. It's a white dude.
Starting point is 01:13:57 He's really, really smart. He got like Asperger's or autism on a high level with a smart, smart guy. And then he asked me, he said, yo man, what instruments y'all play for hip hop and all that? And I was like, you know what? We don't really play the instruments. We sample.
Starting point is 01:14:14 He said, what do you mean sample? They got these machines, but they take jazz. They take rock. They take Southside, they take R&B, they take the, and I realized hip hop come from everywhere. Yeah, we would. I never really thought about it until he asked me that question. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:30 It actually is a fucking gumbo. One million percent. You sample all the shit together, and that's how hip hop come out. Yeah. The album would be out already. Turn it a Coke Wave, man. Coke Wave, Narcos. How many joints on?
Starting point is 01:14:43 3.5. Let me tell you how we got a 3.5. Because we were so high. that we skip part three. But you don't get high no more, they said. That's hard. They were so high, they skipped three. We skip three.
Starting point is 01:14:58 So we went straight from two to four. So he come home, I'm like, yo, we got a problem. We skipped the whole value. You got to come back to three. You're like, I got a solution. We're going to call it 3.5. That's both. He said the three for the one we missed
Starting point is 01:15:16 and a point five for the one that comes after four. So we got two back. You want to know what's crazy. That's a genius. You know, you want to know what's crazy, I can never get the vision out my face. Pause. Come on, man. Come on, crack.
Starting point is 01:15:37 You can't get wet. The vision. Vision. I ain't saying nothing, Paul, out of my face of this man with a captain's hat, with force, white girls. just, it looked like he was, what's my man to die, the Playboy dude? You, he was after that night in the club.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Yeah. I'm looking at him. I'm like, yo, this thing is. Yeah. B is out of control, bro. What a life, man. Now you're married. Got your wife everywhere with you.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Yeah, she's in the building. Oh, man. Smart man. You're out of a lot of trouble, huh? It's a nice system implemented. Can't complain. But you got it? You got your shit together.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And I've watched other interviews. Nah, you got your shit together, bro. You ain't with that shit. You ain't falling for nothing. Yeah, yeah. Doing shit. You got your shit together. And everybody, if everybody's, even the goons,
Starting point is 01:16:34 I know they've been waiting 17 years for you to come home. Everybody's been waiting for the money to come in, whatever the case may be. Everybody's been on max time. So you got to let them know we all got to be in harmony. And that's one of the toughest things I had to learn since day one. I'm coming with the animals.
Starting point is 01:16:53 And they beating up my fans. The ugly ones. I'm going, you got a flow, Joe. We be, I slant. Look, they do flow, Joe. It's number one in America. They do a concert. My first show, Lehman College in the Bronx.
Starting point is 01:17:07 I come up with the whole forest projects. Not half, not two-thirds, black, Spanish. This was FJ-560 days? Before that, this is 9-3. Right? You funny, too. We was in Patterson Project. And he told me, yo, you safe for me.
Starting point is 01:17:26 I said, nigga, I sold my first bag of dope on this fucking. I swear to God. This is a little of insurance. I sold my first bag of dope in that park on that bench right there. No. It was heavy that day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he told me I'm safe.
Starting point is 01:17:42 I said, all right, friends. I'm worried, man. You know. You remember you like an elephant. No, I told him. I said, yo, I said, yo, I was safe. I don't smoke. I don't drink.
Starting point is 01:17:50 I'm focused. My sugar right? I'm good. Yeah, you stopped drinking way before everybody. Man, listen. I couldn't even give crack a bottle of Nuvo while he was making it all the way up. I'm trying to drink Nuvo.
Starting point is 01:18:01 I'm like, there was no liquor in this crack. He stopped drinking before everybody. Well, you got me high. We shot the video to cooking in the desert. And I went in your fucking trailer. I don't know if you remember that. You, Zach, and y'all was there, and you had chocolate chip cookies.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Oh, yeah. Of course, my fat ass going, I start eating the truck, and they all laughing. I don't know why. They laughing at me. I'm tearing up the truckler chips. Next thing I know, I'm high. I don't smoke nothing. I'm like, yo, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:18:31 In the desert. We had tigers in the desert. I'm so high. I'm banging on Remy's door. She's in the trailer next door. And I'm boom, boom, bam, bam. We got to go. It's turning dark.
Starting point is 01:18:43 That shit was like 12 noon, my name. It's turning dark. Video, as soon as the sun goes down. the videos over. I was tired. Then I realized I went back. I said, she said something wrong with you, Joe. I said, yo, Rob, stop. She's like, you're high. Something. And I went back. I said, yo, they started
Starting point is 01:19:00 dying laughing. Spike Cheats. He changed the old treatment. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?
Starting point is 01:19:22 Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
Starting point is 01:20:00 and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman, Help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app,
Starting point is 01:20:39 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the René. Naistub's tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jenchian won. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.
Starting point is 01:21:06 She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app,
Starting point is 01:21:58 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So the shit, what's the African joint where the kids is dancing? Unforgettable. Unforgettable. How many diamond is that shit now? Probably like going on 20, about like 84 around the world. I wish, man, I wish I walked out the label and did make a rain, like how you did it with that record. you would a smith.
Starting point is 01:22:25 I wish I'd have booked that record. Yo, French, I think you went, I think you was off the label, right? You was leaving the label, and then you hit that one, and they came back and said, hold up. Let's work this out. Because I paid for that record.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I paid half for that record. When I was in the studio, just working on the album, I remember Travis coming in, we did a joint, a couple people came in. But Jeremiah came in for, like, two days. We stayed up for like two days cooking There was a point where Germile was just playing records And he played this one joint
Starting point is 01:22:57 It was already a hook on there Yeah, Germile played it You gave him that million dollar voice, huh? I turned around, looked at him, he looked at me I said pull that joint up That was a layup Yeah, he played it How genius was it your idea?
Starting point is 01:23:11 I know you were African but it was your idea to go get the kids Yeah So the kids I was watching them kids Before I even had the record, them kids I was already watching them because I'm like, man, these kids
Starting point is 01:23:25 like they don't dance like nobody. I'm like, so I started asking doing my homework. They were like they don't watch no TV on that. So they had to learn all their moves like on some, you know, just as they're going. What part of Africa was that? It was Uganda. It was Uganda.
Starting point is 01:23:39 So I was with Kamala. So I was trying to. Kamala, the wrestler. Big Kamala. So I was shy to fly men. They was like, they can't get no visas on that. It's like, you got to go there. It was a 30-hour flight.
Starting point is 01:23:52 And mind you, when I got unforgettable, the record leaked. The business wasn't done. So when Jeremiah gave me the record, I remember I called up Sway. I'm like, yo, bro, I want this record. There was like, they already had the record going on something else. So imagine, like, you had lean back,
Starting point is 01:24:08 and somebody called you, say, nah, you can't have that record no more. So I hauled that Sway and I highlight that Mike Wilson. So it was kind of back and forth. But I think my man, Sal came in and shot to Sal. Sal came in here was like, bro, I'm going to tell you how you're going to get this record. Just give him $300,000 for the record. We pay $5,000 for beats.
Starting point is 01:24:24 We pay $10,000 for beats. I never paid for a record for $300,000. I was looking at Sal like he was crazy. But the record was already out. So now the record is already out, and somebody is telling you you pay $300,000 for a record. Nobody in the right state of mind going to be like, I'm paying $300,000.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Because you still don't know if the record going to go or not. But the record was already leaked out. It was already out. When I went to the label, it said the record is already out. The label was like, nah, we don't want to invest in this. So I had to go in my pocket. And I was like, look, if y'all match me, I get it. So I put up 150 and shot the Sylvia Rohn.
Starting point is 01:24:56 She put up 150. But I went to Africa and I shot the video out of my own pocket too. Crazy. Yeah. We shot the video, and we had the song, and the song was already out. So we just had to gamble. It was like a million dollars of gambling. You know, I caught an L like that one time.
Starting point is 01:25:11 I did the song with, I was so honored to do a song with Kanye West. He made me book. Hype Williams. I paid Hype Williams, I think maybe $300,000. I'm independent. Crazy. The man come with a flashlight was the light.
Starting point is 01:25:28 You know how they got, they got more lights in here right now than the video. He came with a flashlight. He's like, something new I'm working on. I say, what? You talk about I got body, for hype billions might have spent
Starting point is 01:25:41 10 grand on that video. But the video came out phenomenal. He can't do. And then your man Kanye never charged me but he said, yo Joe covered a wardrobe. He ordered $10,000 tang tops from France and shit. Like, he killed me on that budget. Like, I'm like, Kim Kardashian comes through.
Starting point is 01:26:03 It's a movie, right? But I flew the bag on that. A couple of hundred thousand radio, video, this, this, that, and this, that, and this ain't gone. And I came back and threw another bag on that, Another 300,000. I just knew it had to be hit. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:26:21 And it didn't go. It didn't go. It was great. It's a nostalgia piece. I rocked with Kanye. This shit looked beautiful. But I caught a hell on that. That's one I caught a hell on.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Yeah. I remember Kanye had me meet him in the middle of the desert with a planes, with a shotgun era. That was incredible. Yeah. That video was incredible. Getting him and Nas there. That's when I was like.
Starting point is 01:26:44 That was like us getting French Montana. on the shoulder there. Nah, man. That's not, it wasn't Moses. It was, I forgot the name. But it was like a hip hop joint. I never expected it to be a hit. I've seen that joke.
Starting point is 01:26:55 No, it was incredible. You're on the graveyard of the planes. Yeah, it was with a shot Khan air. That was a vibe. That video right there was legend. Yeah, shot the I for Vera. Yeah. But you had to get them there.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Yeah. How crazy is that? Brow. Lightning in the bottle. You go about $300,000. I'll tell you a story I never said before. It was crazy when we just talking. But I never forget we shot John Blaze.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Had the young Jada kiss for hair. All that's all record. Punt. The only one that was late was Nas. And last minute, Steve Stout showed up and was like, yo, we need 10 grand for him being the video. This is when Joe Crack is Don Carter, Gene. I ain't paying for a peach.
Starting point is 01:27:43 I'm walking in the supermarket getting free. I'm like, y'all, I ain't paying for shit. I'm walking up in there, like, I'm in the supermarket taking free peaches and shit. Like, yo, Don't pay for shit. Yeah, I was so in my feelings. Even though I was rich already. I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:27:59 I was like, yo, 10 grand. He was like, yo, you know, it's not. I said, no, that's not even a question. He did the song for free, but I gave them that 10 grand. That felt like the 300. Yeah. Because in some days, I don't think nobody was paying for nobody to show up or nothing.
Starting point is 01:28:15 that Jade is there. Who's there? Rayquan is there. Pond is there acting. No. Mac 10. Mac 10. But I learned from that, though.
Starting point is 01:28:24 I saw the weekend pay somebody as big as the weekend one. I was bugging. I was like, yeah, why are you paying? You're the weekend. My man, Cash was like, when they ask us for something, smoke day gizzards. Woo!
Starting point is 01:28:39 He said you're going to smoke their what? Smoke that gizet. We got new music to play. We got new music. He'll play that joint You've been talking about France that you think is the board I'm gonna let Max pick one
Starting point is 01:28:51 And I pick one off the tape Okay He can play. Oh, Papa Half. He'll play Papa Half and I'll play ever since you left me, John. Rankie Crocking. On deck
Starting point is 01:29:05 Don Vel-ha She popped the half got a telly show That bitch bad with no pennies on Count Cash is my favorite song But the baby crom- I make the most of it
Starting point is 01:29:26 I bet them hoes love it Fly by that plane Ready tell up ain't no luck Might just go ghost fucking White bitch got no stomach Coke boys they ain't ready Wave guys they own love Cash in the zone
Starting point is 01:29:38 Crowley with four or five bitches Trying to shone Proudly Four or five years And I be gone Proudly when my dogs high Sitting on a thorn Proud
Starting point is 01:29:48 Yeah These niggins On I did I proud of their bag I proud of You're the best, baby. I'm used to get the shit. Snoo this, effiless.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Affleis, baby. I get up in the air. Gaze bone, cool, and true hustling. Give me all the energies, help you get muster. New attitude, new mood, new clusters. Gallant of the booze, if you snoozy, too rusty. Some other type of niggins.
Starting point is 01:30:25 It's so hard to explain it. Powers is the way. It's so hard to contain them. Bigger ball the street's back. Be so hopeful. You see him in the streets. He's a local. That slick-ass nigga there with the charm and deb in the head.
Starting point is 01:30:39 When I wave my arm, I make alarms. Pull at the stairs, school of you niggins and now I'm home. Pull up a chair. These niggas is old. They're going home. I couldn't care. She popped the half guy her tell these shown. That bitch bad with no panties on.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Count cash is my favorite song. That cool black but the baby crone. I make the most of it. I bet them hosts love it. that plane ready tall up bring no luck might just go ghost fucking white bitch got no stomach coke boys they ain't ready wave guys they owe lunk cash in the zone probably with four or five bitches trying to shone proudly four or five years and I'd be gone probably when my dogs high sitting on the thorn proud of cat I'm proud of the bitch baby I'm in to get the shit
Starting point is 01:31:34 Just a taste That's hard for this, baby I get up in the head Yeah Yeah Just the taste It's hard It's hard
Starting point is 01:31:55 Play one more Yeah Just a taste Yeah Play the other one Oh no This is the one Yo stop it
Starting point is 01:32:06 This the one This the one It's the one This is No, no. This is the one. This is the one. I heard you on the studio
Starting point is 01:32:15 when y'all played this. I was like, this shit out of here. This is the one. I never even heard one word. This is the one. The look. Number I told you.
Starting point is 01:32:23 This is what. This is one. One second. I already know. This is the one. Let's go. Let's go. You're ready to shake your asses.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I went in depth on the bitch. Ever since you left me, more money, more cars, more holes, more shows. Ever since you left me More diamonds
Starting point is 01:32:46 More gold More motion More holes I went deaf on a bib I went deaf on a bit All I need is one night You gonna have this bird On you
Starting point is 01:33:01 All I need is one night I win death on a bitch Yes my yes I Fiesta Drop Top G wagons We don't do Teslas Don't pay for the bad I pay semesters I turn dream girls to my new extras
Starting point is 01:33:15 Hey niggas recognized game girls do too Run through the city like the two live crew Got a Harlem broad, got a Brooklyn broad. I ain't come this far, just to come this fall. A friend to all is a friend to none. So don't push me, bitch, because I'll press the button. I went deaf on a bit.
Starting point is 01:33:31 It's not. I went deaf on a bit. All I need is one night. You're going to have this bird. All I need is one night. I went deaf on me. Scrumptious. Baby want to be with me and got me husband.
Starting point is 01:33:54 She was singing on my mic, Teddy Wells spin. This statue left who left room, I'm a kid. I went deaf bitch blue my boo I just get bitch and fucking a bitch I went deaf on the bitch All I need is one night All I need is one night Booke I went deaf one
Starting point is 01:34:29 Trying to get you the other You're trying to get you the other back You're trying to get you another kind of mad This is a monster I surrender This is a Morocco to see the monster I'm going to get that pass. I didn't get you to the Morocco.
Starting point is 01:34:49 I didn't get you to see the monkey right there. He's going to get you your homeowner. You're going to get that pass, boy. I'm wearing death on him. That's crazy. Fuck with that. That's a heat seat. This is a couple pieces of taste.
Starting point is 01:35:00 That's a global nuclear monster right. Listen, and shout to bro. The rollout. The rollout. We still rolling. Still row. Still we're having unroll. A big Swiss roll.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Yeah. A big Swiss roll. Who the big, the Green Swiss row. We still rolling. Rollout is crazy. You'll put like three V's four four videos together. That's the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:24 That's the way. We got kid art. Shout to Johnny. Yeah. Shout to Johnny, kid, art. Johnny produced that joint. He's nice. The Mawa was crazy.
Starting point is 01:35:33 I had that record for like a year. I just had a tuck. I'm going to give it. I'm going to play that shit. Two seconds. I heard it. I saw none of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:42 There's no way Max. come home to rap on this. I said, this, Edd, because you, you got so much charisma, so much style, and, you know, it takes me back to the little clips when you had the long head. So I knew you was going to do what you had to do to this. I said, oh, my God. He made it a point.
Starting point is 01:36:01 I get on that record. He's like, yo, fuck, we got, we got to get on this. Like, you need this. Yeah. That's how he did that. You shot the video yet? You shot the video last day. Man, you didn't bring out the pilot hat.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Nah, we was looking at the pilot. That's the pilot hat, rest of peace. You know. The pilot hat? Yo, I've never, I've seen a lot of things in my life. Yeah. That pilot hat, boy.
Starting point is 01:36:29 We had the velvet blazers going on. Y'all was going crazy. You had about a million hours. No, that's out of here. That shit on last night. French, that's out of you. Oh, thank you, bro. Put the bag behind me.
Starting point is 01:36:39 He was not fucking around. You got, welcome to Royal Airlines. What's the shit take you to? Yeah. What's the name of it? Yeah. The airline. We try to go independent and get that back like you.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Yeah, but what's the, what's the end? Morocco. Royal and Morocco. That Royal Air Morocco. You try I get it that Maca-Dadez. Y'all should have brought the little man in the video. This ain't that? That ain't this.
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