The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - How Lil Wayne, Future, OutKast & southern hip hop TOOK OVER rap game

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

On today's episode, Fat Joe and Jadakiss take a look back at the rise of southern hip hop during the 1990s, 2000s, and all the way up to the present day. They pay homage to southern rappers like Lil Wayne, Andre 3000 and Big Boi of OutKast, Master P, Pimp C and Bun B of UGK, Scarface, Future, and many more who shook the landscape of hip hop culture. Joe and Jada debate which southern artists had the most influence on New York hip hop, whether trap music originated with T.I. or Young Jeezy, and the top rappers from different regions like Atlanta, Miami, and Texas. Joe also tells the story of how he forced Scott Storch to lace the "Make It Rain" beat with dirty south drums after he realized the sound was sweeping the nation. 7:00 - Most influential '90s southern rap labels 13:30 - Which southern rappers influenced NYC most? 21:30 - How "Make It Rain" was made 31:00 - Top 5 Miami rappers 50:00 - Ben Simmons to Knicks? 1:02:00 - Rap money ISN'T athlete money [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.]See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on, a Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman. Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud. But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the Aihar Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And I'm like, no, no, no, she ain't dancing to it yet.

She ain't dancing to it. And he finally threw the drums where I saw her by the speaker, you know, doing that shit. And I was like, that's it. That's when I knew the whole sound was changing. I said, yo, they got the whole country in the choke. Yo, what up, y'all? This is your boy Joe Krat.

It's your boy, Jaded Kiss. You know what this is, the Joe and Jaded show. Don't get it fucked up. Let me tell you something. They want you to do good, kiss. They just don't want you to live next to them. Won't let that go over your heads, ladies and gentlemen. So your friends, they might want you to do good.

They don't want you to live next to them. So if they make $100,000, they want you to make $90. They never want you to make $110. I never gave a fuck. Like, with me, realistically, I guess hip-hop was competition, but to me, like, you know, if somebody came in the game Ross or anybody came in the game, I showed them love like, unconditional.

Like, I never really, like, looked at nobody, like, oh, they did a competition on that level or nothing like that. If you get a billion dollars, if you get a billion sales, if you get it, I'm happy for you. But with this particular game and this particular time, alley-oops ain't something that's not a- Yeah. They're not throwing alley-oops.

It's not favors or not eat. easy to come by. And it's not even that. This game is really fucked up because you might do. You might show up every time they call you. And the reciprocation ain't there. I mean, you agree? Yeah.

Well, I realize because you get high and most of the times I ever chilled with you was at a show or something like that, I didn't realize how professional you are. Like me and you, we race each other every day. to see who's the first one here. So you can't judge a book by his cover. But yeah, you're correct. You know, unfortunate, I wouldn't say crabs in the barrel

because this is on another level. But it's a scenario where, you know, you're trying to come in the game and then some guys got their eyes on you and they're just like, yo, these guys are running too fast. Because you think about the podcast been on for what? two months and we don't have been viral

how many times and we don't have so much royalty sit on this couch in the first two months is fucking royalty. Nali is Shanti fucking Jermaine Dupree, you know, all the guests we done had already. It's been royalty

sitting on this couch. Nobody else come out like that. That's a fact. Well, pretty much just say they fucking hate. Yeah, they hate. But check this shit out. There's not much they could do because the people See, there's no power like people power. My mentor, J.R. Riding could taught me that.

He said there's no, once you got the people with you, there's nothing you could do. Whether they for you or against you, I learned some new shit. You know how Jimmy went on tour after doing this show? He's on tour, by the way. I seen that nigga on Channel 7 or something the other day. Yo, he's on tour off with, you know, I'm not. I'm, yo, he's on, like, I would think Jimmy's putting out a book of some shit.

He's sitting on couches. He never sat on talking about that shit. But I'm saying, oh, I forgot what I was saying. But the point is, no, I keep it real, all Simon's. That's that AC smacking me on the back of my neck. They're killing my man crack with the AC. Yo, brabish. They got that shit on chill.

They got the jail AC in there, like, the central booking. With the, you got to put the fucking cardboard over the fucking thing because this shit is, Brock Nation definitely paid the AC bill. Yeah, they like it cool. That's another thing. Shout out to Jay-Z with the casino. You know, you got Nas going for a casino in Brooklyn,

and you got Jay-Z going for a casino in Times Square. That's fine. You know what I'm saying? Sinald Green. I think Times Square need a casino. You know, they're worried about the plays. So the only people who are opposed to the casino and Times Square is obviously the people

who've been kicking for 100 years on the plays. So they hate competition coming. I don't think it's competition. I think you add 5,000 more jobs, opportunity. People come to the, you know, if it's Jay-Z, it's going to be some superfly shit. You know what I'm saying? So New York City, we're at the age where we all trying

to get a casino. So salute to the legendary legends. You know, I was thinking of J.D. in the building and all that. And I said, we should just go into a whole influence of South hip hop in the 90s. We're talking about the rise of southern hip hop in the 90s. Who are some of the crews that are the most influential? What label? What label are the most impact?

No limit. Cash money. Swab House. Rap a lot. So, so death. slip and slide the face what would you say I say all of them shit I see all of them too um but uh from a historical standpoint don't kill me but I believe Swave House and Tony Draper were the first to open that door with independent and the thing about

uh South rap a lot that was independent I think about the way Luke had that shit on tilt in Miami you know Uncle Luke I think that's better that's before slipping slots he reached Congress

no he reached Congress so Luke I mean so many contributions to the hip-hop game in the South now when Jermaine DePree was here I didn't want to argue with him right because he was royalty but I felt like

the South keep it together more than New York I think New York when I think New York It definitely do Kind of fell apart Was when everybody started getting money And everybody started saying This is my crew

This is my crew We're getting the most money We did Because you know When the time I came out It was I would show up at Everybody's video

Everybody to show up at my video and we all supported each other. I think once the money came to play and ego and pride, you know, they say that pride and ego comes in before every downfall. That's a fact. And so, you know, the South, they started doing records with each other. Even when I moved down to Miami, pit bulls in one studio, Wayne's in one studio,

Ross is in one studio, Scott Starch is in one studio, Callerton once, and everybody was just walking in each other's sessions, just doing songs with each other. And we missed that in New York. I think the South... He used to have it like.

It used to be like that. And then... Everybody got a couple dollars. Who you think is the most legendary record label in Southern hip-hop? You said, you said Swab House. Definitely rap a lot. Slipping Slide was doing anything.

But I would say it would have to be no limit. in cash money to me. They had an trackable runs, yeah. We was on a rough ride of cash money tour. What was that like? It was like the best of both worlds. You know, like up top

in New Orleans. And we was bringing that new, we was bringing that East Coast New York flavor and they was bringing at New Orleans. Baby you heard me. And it was a perfect It was a perfect match

I mean they had mad tall buses They bought the whole family Grandma Aunt's I ain't sure Rest in peace Miss Gladys might have been there They was pulling up They had the whole family

Dogs babies Grandmas aunties They had everybody on one tour They came crazy They came crazy Shout out the Birdman Yeah they did it Shout out the Birdman

What's up Birdman You know Wayne, I'm gonna skip all the way to like Carda 3 and Little Wayne was like the first because you know he was a soft rapper but the way

he was rapping off of these soul beats and he was spitting but he was spitting with it you know me you whether we like to admit it even 50 said whoever

we got a New York flow when New York catered he was like doing he was just bouncing all over these beats like i had never heard nobody bounced over them and saying some shit you know his he was barred up yeah we see that's what we do he came weasy is one of the people that withstand the test of time coming in the game as a kid and then turning into a man and fucking creating his own uproar you know what i'm saying starting with the high-ball boys doing all that being the little one.

And then he put the whole shit on his back out of a while. Bling, bling. Every time we got that, man, they got bling, bling. Welcome home to BG. Juvie. Juvie. All those guys, Master Pee. Man, fresh.

Master P to me showed everybody how to get money. He fucking bombarded the game. He was dropping. They had them colorful album covers with the gold shit on it. With the tanks, me a X, dropping artists every month. Six to shots. Silk to shock He treated the rap game like the Carter

And he has something dropping every month He figured it out It was like that was his content at the time So he was like anything I throw out there If I sell I just bring it to the pal You know that's almost like how I do my accountant Whether I'm you know Making money doing the podcast or a show or this or that

At the end of the month I bring it all together And be like all right we did well So that's how he was more moving on with the music. And then why he had a legendary run where Snoop Dog was going through his shit. He brought him down there. Yeah, Snoop up there.

Snooper life preserve. Through Snooper, I feel like Snoop is very loyal to him and realized that that was a major time in his life. You know, where he needed help and Master Pete through him that light preserver. What artists from the South had the most influence on New York yet?

would you say? I say we... Listen to the question carefully. What artists from the South had the most influence on New York hip? Not even sure

did I mean their influence. If you ask Hove and you ask a bunch of rappers, they might just say scoffings. You know. You got to throw things. You got to...

You better mention them for that. I mean, of course. But I'm just saying, saying you're asking me is to toss up between Scarface and Little Wayne to have the most influence and impact on New York artists. Now, if you talk about...

No, no, no, those are great names. I think it's more, though, it's Scarface, is Weezy, it's Jeezy, ah, cheesy. Ti. Yes. You know, I got a story with TI, you know what I'm saying?

You know, I was signing Atlantic Records and I sold 2 million records and they had this poster of me. Shit was like six floors high. When you walk in the lobby, the shit was the whole shit was me in the orange leather

shirt, medallion with the, I got to bring the lion out. I ain't never bring the lion to the show yet. So I got the lion with the big brick in his mouth. He got the big diamond in his mouth. So they had this shit in the poster for, I think like two years.

One day I walked into a meeting with Atlantic and the shit had a poster of TI, the big shit. And I went upstairs and they started talking to me like, yo, your last album won't sold a half a million. This new guy, T.I. is selling two million. You know, this shit was the craziest shit in the world. And that's around the time I had to leave Atlantic where I was like, yo, I, y'all don't believe in me. I got to go. Then I went independent. but I mean that shit was crazy

but I always had love for Tia Tia's very influential in New York and Gizi you know what could you say about Gizi Gizi Who started trap music was it Tia or was it Gizi Don't get me to the line

I don't know I mean Tia I came up before GZZ Tia had the trap and he had he had the album trap music He got a trap museum in that land Tia has an actual trap museum

where you see him sneaking out the refrigerator goes into another room they rebuilt a trap and the most legendary you know

as years went on Gucci Man was very influential Gucci's that dude man you know that he put a lot he did a lot for hip hop he did a lot for a land

you know but I got to go back right because I got to go back So the question is, who influenced New York? Now, who influenced the world and mostly the South? Because I'm in the South. So I'm mostly in Miami, part-time New York for the last 20-something years.

So I'm stuck in the studio with a million Miami Heat fans. Like, it shit is crazy. And the way they talk about Andre 3,000. I don't think no New Yorker One of the kings Yeah but I don't think no New York You don't know about three stacks You kidding me?

I know but do they understand What three stacks means to the South They better Big boy too Outcast As a group and as individuals They don't dudes They know if you don't

You should listen to something else Smooth jazz I never forget I was in Walt Disney one day I was taking my daughter and randomly three shacks just walked by he had to fucking

the what's this shit like the Oshkazoo? Oh he had to jump on he had his shit broke now that everybody rocked it but he had the shit rolled up with this I was like yo did I just run into three stacks walking by himself and Walt Disney

yeah the man was walking by himself and Walt Disney with his shit rolled up I was like yo that's fucking three stacks. You're liable to see three stacks anyway. Walk in the middle of Brooklyn. Now, it's demographics that's very hot right now. Texas, Houston, I mean, Texas as a whole, New Orleans, very hot.

Now, I look at Texas by itself. Texas is so... Go platinum in Texas alone. No, no, I've been in Texas with... You've literally been a tour in Texas. Where the tour bus had to hide under the fucking, the overpass because it was tornadoes. Like, you could go through Texas for, what,

10-hour drive or something? The whole Texas is the biggest shit. And so you have all this Corpus Christi with Salinas from some of my man, Baby Bash, and Frankie J. Like, I know guys who made a whole life savings, Slim Thug, In Texas, B, UJK, Pimpsey,

Trade the Truth. Trade the truth. It could go Paul Wall. You got Johnny Dang, man. Isn't he? He made a hell of a lot of money. No, this guy got baguetted teeth right now. Now, he went to every level.

That's like the TV we used to watch video music box with. He went from the regular shit to now. He got the flats. His shit's just as damn there Ice Vaniers No, I'm telling His shit there He don't took it to another

Like, and I see Johnny Dang everywhere He'd be dumb icy They always smell it You always got the same What a great guy What a great guy But Texas

That's their own area Like yeah, it's the South But to me it's like Their own area You got Woothingi Bulls You got Scarface, you got, like,

like, I think you can make a living in Texas alone. Like, if you pop and pop and popping, pop and popping in Texas, who they got now, my man, because I'm the biggest, the hardest. The dude-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-thus. You know, big ex the plug? That's a record I wish I made.

You know what I'm saying? So you saw, when you told my New Orleans, Rob 4-9, what the hell he going crazy. You know, I listen to, what the hell he the other day and I compared it to black rob's woe and yeah because listen let me explain son to you the beat was both infectious and he's going to like whoa if you listen to what the hellie then what the hellie yeah what the hellie what the hell he is his own version of woe 2025 I'll fuck him on what the hell crazy this shit's anyway you back

Yeah, but the beat is like, oh, fucking hypnotic. Like that beat right there, that's, what the hell are you first seeing? You think there's a TikTok thing and this, or what you lock it? In the club, that shit is slapping. She's slapping in the club. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.

What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to us. We were the first people to do podcasts. pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.

But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, for people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What about Memphis? That's where my dad is from. How you feel about Memphis? God is. That's where your dad is from? Memphis, he moved up here from Memphis? Yeah, that's where he met my mom's at.

That's how they had you. You want to know what's crazy about Memphis. We'll get into Memphis, but, you know, Fat Joe, got to always tell a story, right? Let me hear your Memphis story. So I'm hosting this tour for Bud Light. and there's every city they got an NBA team

and the star right so I'm in Memphis I think it was Rudy Gay or somebody or Zach Randolph when Rudy or Zee but he was in there so I'm at a party and then what's my man A Bey Bay Bay the DJ A Bey Bay

Bay Bay. He's DJing and there's one the place wasn't so crowded but there's one chubby size young lady who's by the speaker and she keep moving like, like, you know, she keep moving. And for some reason, I'm staring at her the whole night

because she by herself or she's just moving. Every record they're throwing, they have some shit. God, giggily-bugly. She's uglie-boogly-moogly. God-googly-goo. Now, they ask some shit like that. Googly-moogly. Yo, Google that.

Google that. Because he's about the cat me. I didn't say that. The Bronx don't. Yonkers, they're going to say. they had some shit called God d'allie mingling. Ugly boogly.

God diggily agli is. Oogly boogly. What I'm trying to tell you is I heard all type of shit I've never heard in my life. But I'm watching this girl the whole time. It just so happens. I go back to Miami. And I told that story on here before how my man

Stan told me he went to the strip club and they were throwing money in the air. So that's when I came up with Make It Rain. but the way I work with Scott Storch is you book studio with him and he could play whatever you hear so if you hear some shit in your head and you tell him

you can make it come to light play it but the crazy part was the drums and the whole time he's putting drums on it he's like yo you New York you fat Joe you're digging in the crates like, I can't make you no dirty South drums.

And I'm like, yo, bro, I just went to 15 states and everybody was playing dirty South records. And then one time, I think Jay-Z had the rock boys in the building the night. To us was the biggest shit in the world. And at the end of the night, Homeboy was like, yeah, I'm a throw on the throwback. And he threw on the Jay-Z that was popping then. that's when I knew the whole sound was changing.

I said, yo, they got the whole country in the chokehold because I just went through the whole country. In any case, I'm in there with Scott Sord, ma'am had an argument because he was like, yo, I can't give you dirty south drums. I said, yo, you got to give me dirty south drums because that's the shit. So he's producing it, and the whole time I'm looking at the heavyset, girl, dancing by the speaking. I'm like, no, no, no, she ain't dancing to it yet.

She ain't dancing to it. finally through the drums where I saw her by the speaker, you know, doing that shit. And I was like, that's it. She's dancing to this. And so that's how we came up with Making Rain up in Memphis. And so Memphis got what? Yo, Goddy, rest of peace.

Dolph. Dolph. Glowlilla. Glowrilla. Black youngster. Money bag. Money bag, yo. And then they're all, who's the guy down with young golf?

They just signed. Is it key Glock? Key Glock. You know, so right now It's safe to say Memphis got it You think so in the South They're doing their... They're doing their numbers

They're doing more than that shit They're doing more because... They're doing more than their numbers They... They're causing a lot of fucking problems of it Oh, for sure. But they... You know, since future, right?

So what I was trying to tell my nephews, Norris kids, I was like, yo, you know what? No one. No one's telling me that the young dog and then the trap and all. They're confused.

They're young. They're young. Right? So I'm trying to tell them, yo. What about Tia? I had an album, trap music. So I'm trying to tell them that that whole wave, you know, future pretty much created that whole wave to me. Like with sing rap, like, you know,

all that shit, you know, he had that shit lit, and he still got it late. You know, so I feel like... He's on Pluto. He's on the whole number. Yeah, he's on Pluto. He don't really... He rarely misses when he's in,

when he's cooking, he's cooking with fucking fish meats. Oh, no, he's definitely, he's like a Jada kiss, you know, never had a whack verse. This guy... He got fucking nuclear missile. songs.

Yeah, for sure. I remember when he... This shit's catch wildfire and they stay on fire. If it... I remember when he gave... He gave... What's the name? He gave Calla the boy and Calla gave it to Ace Hood.

I woke up there in my Ferrari. You remember how that shit used to knock in that fucking club? He gave Calla the few. No, no. He gave Wallach. I got the keys, keys, keys, keys. I got the keys. You know, we talk of southern hip hop.

We got to take it to Miami. 305. Bet that up. Well, let that up. The list is crazy down there. You got to start off with two live crew, Uncle Luke and the boys. We got JT. Money. JT. Money!

You know, there was a crew. James, you would know this crew. I think it was called Society. They had this one record. I was addicted to this record. Back, underground real hip-hop. Then you got Trick Daddy dollars. Trick Daddy, you know that.

Trick Daddy wouldn't stop going platinum, and he wouldn't want to leave Miami. But I'm signed on Atlantic records, and he got, I don't know. Crazy. Like Trick Daddy's a super duper hitmaker and a chef for real. Trick Daddy? My pot.

No, he cooks for real. I don't have eight of little cronk fritters that he made out there in front of the parking bees, the biggest projects out there in Miami. You got to go Trina. Trina's like one of the leaders

of all the girls in hip-hop. I had to go Trina. You know, known that. 3.05. Yeah. And then they gave like, it was not really,

but it is the birth of Rick Raw. Ricky Rosee. Ricky Rosee, I don't think I've ever been in the club where I had that effect of hustling, hustling, hustling, like people banging on the walls. The DJ would play it 20 times in a row. Hustling, hustling, hustling, hustling, pit bull flow rider.

Flowrider broke Michael Jackson's record 10 years ago. Lowrider broke everything there is to break. He called the main lawsuit. They did him Greasy, one of them companies, and he fucking smoked him and getting in. Yo, shout out to nephew, the whole crew out there. Then we could go on with Ball Greasy, everybody else who's contributions to the game.

We got to say Kodak Black. If we're going to... You better say, Bill. He's not by having me. He up in... Kodak Black, he's Florida. The whole fucking... Florida, you go to Tallahassee.

You go to Tallahassee. You go to T-Pain. T-Pain's contributions to hip-hop music. Go unnoticed in a major, major... You go unnoticed to me. All I do is win, win, win, no matter what. Pei-Pain is one of them special chosen people in our culture. He will live on forever these times.

He has songs that will be played. our kids, kids, kids, kids who are teaming. Trust me. You already know if we left anybody out, we saw them. And speaking of that, I never seen nobody had a club on till. I'm talking about from a Miami perspective, like, um, Jeezy, man, Jeezy, he had, he had dudes running up the wall. He got the trap song, Bible. All you got to do is hit play.

I'm your favorite rapper, favorite rapper. I'm a favorite trappers' favorite trapper. He was going, the snowman. He got the Bible playlist for trapping and awesome. You know, shout out to Eif Rivera. You know, Eifra vera, my man, Eif will shoot the videos. He made the snowman. Dev Jam paid him to make a logo, and he made the snowman logo for Gizi.

Crazy out there. Shout out to Eif. Eif did that. Eif did that. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, he created that t-shirt. You know what I'm saying? Like my man right here.

Team marks, shout out. You been giving us fire every day. And we love to see. He come with gifts. He comes with legendary shit. T-Marks, you know, I wore your hat in Yankee Stadium. And you know how this shit go. It's like whether you hit it out the park and you don't,

as long as they're talking. You know what I'm saying? Like, I realize it this game, but, oh, 2025 social media and all that. If you're winning or you're not, if they're talking, you're doing great. Yeah, so they was fucking me up because I had the delay on the mic.

Meanwhile, your cap is in every fucking interview they keep showing and showing and showing, and showing, showing, showing, I had your shit in the tuck for something legendary. And so when I did that Yankee Stadium at the World Series, I threw that hat on.

Look at Jada. Jada like, yo, I'm rocking his shit all the time, but he got the yank... This is my man made this... Water. Gwitty. You ever climbed on the top of the Yonkers water shit?

Tower? Hell no. I got to be on the ground. I ain't... No, you feel about flying? That's how I feel about being in the air. In the Heights. Yeah, I went up on shit.

I don't want to be... You know, my building had a water tower in the forest projects. So it had a water tower, and we used to play hooky in there. Your kids... If you're from forest, don't do what I've said. But, you know, we used to skip school in there.

And it was like a water tower, but you go up that ladder. And then they had like a little, the round part in the top was like you could chill in there. And we go up to the roof. I mean, we're chilling there for fucking nine in the morning, the three afternoon and act like we came on for school. So in your neighbor, y'all ain't used to ride on top of the elevators. Yeah, we did all of that. So in the projects, we were right on top of the elevator. the elevators stick the shit.

You know you can stick them. And Whitney Young, 354, 358, we used to ride on top of the buildings. But where I lived at, on Warburton and Ravine, they had the gate to hell. That was an old like factory that we used to play

and that you could die anytime you're going, it was missing. Shit was, you got to go up but the stairs is loose and missing any, God, God think nobody never fell in that shit

but we was doing some fucking stupid ass shit yeah we had one called Dead Man's Hill so Dead Man's Hill so Dead Man's Hill was like

yo I mean if you did it you might have saved 20 minutes right so you go from my block to Third Avenue where you go chopping

they had some shit Dead Man's Hill where they had a wire and it was just like a little a little water if you fell you died

it's a little bit of space you could do it, but the wire, if you ain't get scared, I mean, people were doing that shit. Grown men, women were taking dead men's.

If you didn't take that, you had to walk around maybe 10, 15 blocks. Like it was some long shit. You did that. In like two minutes, you already... Halfway down. Oh, more than that.

You already like that price position in where you want to get. But that man, hell, that shit was crazy. be like we had no business doing that shit. Just dumb. The producers, they over there,

this is not me, y'all. This is the producers. I ain't even going to blow them up case you bump into them in the super bowl. They're saying, is it me or are the ladies slowing up? It was a good two years where the ladies had it in the smash. I don't fucking think the ladies are slowing up at all.

Glow is glowing. Nikki can never, she hit shit out the park. Megan's a mega star. You talk about Cardi every day. She just dropped the new single. That shit's on fire. They turn into mega star.

One thing about the females, they get a single or a good album, and they turn into mega stars. Sexy Red. Sexy Red. Sexy Red. Sexy Red. St. Louis. She fucking bigger than life.

Sexy Red. They turn the females turn into Mega. iconic stars. They get out of the realm of Rado. Lotto's mega fucking she's not iconic because she's still

young but she's a mega fucking star. Yes she is. Shout out to Lado. I fuck with Lado. But the women are they slowing down? If they are, they're like at a nine. You know what I'm saying? Because I felt like two years ago

the girls were bigger than the guys. They're nine. The girls are fucking shit up. They're killing shit. But they really was fucking it up. Yeah, a few years ago, it was no oxygen. That shit was like.

They was leaving no room. Yeah. If you had a guy, you rap and get the fuck out the game. Shit was on smash. They was running that shit for real. But if they did fell off, they went to a nine.

You know what I'm saying? They didn't fell off ice spice. They got out of the orbit. You know, Ice Spice. It's out of here. She wasn't allowed. She's on donuts. She's on donuts.

Yeah, but she wasn't allowed. No, she's on some commercial on YouTube. She's on all type of. She got some shit. Kate Spade or some shit with the DeMayo sisters. They played that commercial. But Ice Mike, she wasn't allowed to lose her ass, man. She lost some weight.

And the people may to get it back. Oh, no, it was awful. My nephew's just like, yo, we're off Ice Spice, this, this, that. I'd never seen nobody. Ladies and gentlemen. She gained that. I don't got nothing to do with that. she lost their ass

saying what my nephew's saying they was like when she lost their yala they was like yo and then she got it right back and they jumped on it like that just like that shout out the ice spice man ice spice from the Bronx

my man sauce garden no no ice spice she'd be with fucking them what's the name Taylor Swift yeah she's dating the football player I seen the guy So is gone.

The source garden. Yeah, I've seen them. I've seen them in carbone. You know what I'm saying? The private joint disease is like that. They are out of it. Oh, no, they're doing shit like that. The females is out of it.

No, they're doing, they doing carbone. I've seen them. I walked in the room. Now, everybody gets in that. The room I'm talking about specifically, and they was in that shit. I was like, okay. Because it took me years and years and years to get to the private rooms and the speakeas.

and shit where you bump into doling or some shit like that. They mad young and they write up in there. That's telling you what's going on out here. They got that boost. You remember you used to climb the roof and then they give you the boost and you jump up to the roof when you was a kid?

Yeah, step on somebody's shoulder. Yeah, yeah. Step in their hands. The boost. Stepping their hands and they boost you up. That's how you learned how to do backflips in the hood. Or are you going between. See what I'm saying?

dudes and they flip people. You know, one thing about the ATL, the police been trying to put people way away out there, like with the young dog and the YSEL crew and the Y, what's the other one, the YNM, Melly and all the L. He from Florida, I think. Yeah?

Melly. I thought he was from Atlanta. He from Florida? Florida, yeah, Florida. YM. Lucci. One of them from Atlanta. Luchy. YFN. Lucci.

Lucci. Melly is Florida. Lucci is a life. Sorry, Melly V. Lucci. Right? Free Melly. They were trying to book everybody out there with them Ricos.

They were trying to book Donald Trump before he went for president. Trump still got to open. Trump. They used that RICO loose-handed me. You know, I watched that whole trial, too. And what's your man? I don't know. We should give him a shout out here.

Your man. Who? The craziest witness ever created. What's his name? Woody? Oh, Woody. Shout out of Woody, man. Yo, Woody was out of control.

He said he got locked up. No. If he did, let him out. Free Woody? Let him out. Free Woody back in? Oh, no, Woody fuck, if he back in, they're going to give him 10,000 years.

It ain't none of it. It's some light shit, if he hopped the train, they're giving them 10. Street racing. He out. He out. Oh, so he out? He got a new V.

He was racing down the street. That boy, Woody. Cleveland. Woody is on that O.J. Simpson list. I'm telling you, Woody should not even be in Atlanta. Leave Woody alone. Woody should be living in like Bahamas or some shit. Because when I'm telling you,

if they catch him for hopping the train, they're going to throw the book at him. And he was straight up, if we're going to listen to him and believe him, like, I can't read. I don't know shit. I don't do this. I don't like that boy,

they're going to smoke his boots. I think he was just playing stupid on the stand. I mean, it was very, very, very entertaining. Oh, no, no, no, he definitely gave me. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He knew what he was doing, throwing them people off. It's crazy, though. Nah, it's crazy because...

They don't tell he so far. I was scrapped. Nah, you know, now I'm more like Ralph Cramden, man, the honeymoon is, man. You're saying, Ralph Cramden. You Cramden, if Cramden had bread. Cramden had a lot of bread. Krampton was down in Miami. Jackie Glees.

I'm talking about Ralph Gretton. And he was on his number. Yeah, Ralph Bradley was on his nothing. Must drive. He was fucked up. And he wasn't in the union. No, no, he was fucked up. At least he had somebody to pick on.

What's his man's name? Norton, man. Noant. Yo, he was killing Norton. The real Jackie Gleeson had bread. The real Jackie Gleeson, he was a pool shock. He was. He would be in Miami killing dudes for bread.

Cool, that was his gambler. He ran Miami. Minnesota Fats. Yeah, Minnesota Fats. He ran everything in Miami. So that's who, you know, I aspire to be, man. You know what I'm saying? Jagie Glacin?

Yes. Yes. Joyce Randolph. Let me tell you with Joyce. Art Carney. Yeah, that shit was the shit, though. Hell yeah, the marathons on New Year's. You don't know about the honeymoon?

Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.

We just contributed to a podcast. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it. one of the early names of our band

before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say,

Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.

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Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yo, this is the fuck, Ben Simmons. The Knicks have... Hold on one second, one second, I'm sorry. They buying me socks. I'm saying I'm trying to be cool I'm trying to

I'm trying to You got the socks At 158 Rich Cotton Did you go tell Not Rich Cotton They're saying I need like

Louis Sox And all this kind of shit I just told you You getting one way It's cool I got all of the socks But get these from 158

Up NYC Richcott They got me I got an APB out on socks They all They all try I'm trying to get bad socks

He's going to wait Those shit is one way, like Air Force. And it's over. So you say the rich cottons? Rich cotton. I got the rich cotton. That's what I'm in the winter. Go up a little bit.

I mean, go bring it up a little. Ben Simmons. Yeah, they said the Knicks. You've been dying to talk about this guy. The Knicks isn't talk with, I've seen it. This is, it might be allegedly something I've seen in the sports world that the Knicks is in talks with Ben Simmons.

The first comment I've seen is Fat Joe, No, Bueno. That's no brain. That's emphatically non-ciphered, go. So you wouldn't like Ben Simmons off the bench? No way. Listen, let me talk before you say, why not? And I'm not enthusiastically happy about it, but just look why Mike can work.

You don't, we need him to handle the ball. He can fucking hell of a passer. And he can stick anybody for one to five. We don't need him to shoot. You pass it to Clarkson, pass it to the big nigga from France, and pass it to whoever else they left in, bridges or whoever. You know, I'm confused. Because I can't see that dude do nothing.

The producers said we're going to talk about him longer than he's going to play if he's signed. You don't listen to what I'm saying to you. I'm confused. Like Ben Simmons is, he's a wash. They got hypnotize him back to Ben Simmons. Right now he's been everything. Ben, Uncle Ben, Ray. What about the young boy?

What about the young boy? Around the world and I, aye, aye, aye. But he ain't Ben Simmons. He ain't been playing. And he ain't been playing. No. That's a fact. But I watched this is my verd.

I watched, he got it in him. Somebody took it out of a porch. That's a poor. He had it. He used to be a killer. He was the man, but he ain't. I think it was Philly. Philly does something to him.

Yo, listen. Or a lady in Philly, a cheese steak, something in Philly. Shout out to my man, Skinny Joe. Yo, Skinny Joe, I'm coming down there for that Philly cheese steak. My man just opened up a Philly cheesecake. Oh, no, they say. I rode by there.

The line is like a million man, mom. I was going to go in there. He said that shit, the realest shit in the world. You ready to drive down there. No, no, I'm going next week. I go to Miami tomorrow, but I'm going to the... I just need one, but it's the real deal. I just need one, but I've been watching it on Instagram.

Shout out my man Steve Mada-Rano. So my man Steve Mada-Rano got the Italian restaurant in Fort Lauderdale. His cheese steaks are undefeated, but just off-of-face value. You and segue the fool. Steve, skinny, skinny. Yo, his shit looking real. I'm not used to you brought up Philly. Yo, the guy's piece of shit.

He's watched up. He's not. Trash. Ben Simmons is done. He's a vision of himself. He's scared of his own shadow. Listen. Now, mental illness is real. I got a crack therapy.

I got a delusional. I got one of your kind of shit. That is delusional. Think about this. And Philly's my second home. It's my favorite place that if I had to get out of here right now, I'm moving to Philly. They love me. They protect me.

They love it. I love it. I think is when you're a rookie and they're initiating you in Philly, they take you somewhere. And it happened to Markell folks. It happened to Ben Simmons. Yeah, but Markle Fox came back.

Now, he came back to say on the only woman. And Ben Simmons could come back. Long time. And then, and he didn't even, he don't got to, look, Ben Simmons just forgot how to shoot. He can't play. Mark Kel Fultz had to. No, this guy can't play.

He can play. They just don't want to shoot. Somebody told him, don't shoot. And he fucking mind. No, I can't. They clocked them with the thing. Look, if he gets the eye of the tiger back, which New Yorker might could get back, put it back,

and he'd be idle. He was at Brooklyn ain't do shit. Now, let me explain. He wasn't, he wasn't even showing up. He wasn't moving to groving, switching. The next is going to. The next is going to even. Help you or fucking hurt you.

Let me explain. There's no gray area within the garden. Ben Simmons is washed up. It's over. There's no way, no hope, no nothing. We can't rewind the time. I got hope. I got faith.

We cannot rewind the time with this man. This guy's still in, he's fully in the gray area. Especially off the bench. Nah. He can't do nothing. I've been watching it for years. I used to like his game. And I've been watching him.

for years, I swear to God, I've been watching your Marsha, folks came back, he had a little spurt, went down to Orlando. Your man, Ben Simmons. He got out of Orlando. Take him to Disney. He might see out 3,000, 3 stacks. You see the money they gave my man Polonchio.

Why, what are you calling? Pablo, Paolo. Polichero. You mess. He's making me begin of his name, man. Paulo, Boncaro. Bencherro. Bancaro. Bancaro.

Yeah. Man, Paulo, I appreciate, I'm sorry, Paulo. This guy. Hold up. Hold up. Let me tell you about Poncaro. Poncaro. He just got the.

No, no. They did the right day. I thought about it, right? I say, yo, if you put Poncaro on Detroit, they're the favorite. If you put Poncaro on any team that's almost looking to go, They're going to win a chip. So I feel like, of course, Orlando gave him the bag, but they also played, like, defense.

Because there was like anybody would give this guy to, imagine you sent Poncaro to all Golden State. You sent Poncaro anywhere. They got a chance. If they already got a one-two punch, AT or whatever, they got a chance at a chip. This guy, Pankero, I've seen some shit the other day. Maybe we don't watch Orlando.

But when they announced the deal, they was like first NBA player with 25 plus. I was like, they put them in the names with like, you know, Will Chamberlain and this and, and I didn't even know

he was doing that kind. I love him. I know he was doing legendary status numbers. That's what he's doing. So shout out on Carol. You know, he know he got a weird name. Don't get it fucked up. His best friends had to study.

his shit. He got a weird... Pankero, man. He got a weird name. Pankero, what's up, brother? I love Orlando team. And I do like... And Shamgar just got assistant coach job on Orlando. Shout out to my brother, Shemp. What the fuck is up? Shamp.

What's going on, baby? I got to cheer you. You know, Shamgarde, one of the only people I know from the street that made it to the league. So you know this street... You know, Skip made it. Skip, that's it.

That's it, Rayford Austin. That's it. Who else from the street? Made it to the league. The sham ain't from the street. He went to the college. Yeah, but I know Shan from the street. Yeah, we know him from home.

Yes. He's from the street. But he's in the league. He's assistant coach. He went to college and killed. He killed in college. Yep. Okay.

So, yeah, yeah, he killed in college. He didn't have problems. He went to... Hold what? He did that in Providence. Yeah, he killed him. I know what he did in Providence. Killed him for whatever.

I'm saying, is to me, let me say, Fadjo met him in the street. Outside. Street basketball. You know, he got the sham.

You know what I'm saying? He invented a move that every one of our players that we think is the greatest of all time. Everyone. He showed, he did hours and sessions with Kobe,

and he did hours and sessions with Gigi. He's legend. He taught them out of sham. Yeah, for hours, dribbling skills for hours. He got story, told me shit to Kobe and

Gigi. Listen, Shamgar, salute, brother, because I've seen you in the streets. I know you went to college, but I've seen you in the streets and we could easily get lost in the streets. And he was in the streets.

So that's just why I'm trying to tell you. I know Shamgarg for sitting on the block to three in the morning, drinking, talking this. Like, he was in the street. and now he's a coach of Orlando. That's huge.

He was in Dallas right before that. Yeah. What do you think about Dallas chances? He said, Kai, we don't want to go back. They just signed DeAngelo Russell, two years, 13 million. That's another one. I think that's a good feeling. Oh, see.

For Kai. Can you see? Burn it, don't. Yo, listen. No, I really. I am not a fan of DeAngelo Russell. I mean, he's good, close, but no cigar. I'm sorry, guys, he had his chance.

And what's crazy is I actually was there when he got drafted to the league and his confidence, walking up there. You would think he was the next AI, the next Kobe, the next MJ LeBron. He will, I never forget that. And I remember to myself saying, yo, this kid got to humble himself. And boy, the league I have a way of humbling you if you're not out there doing what you got to do.

And so DiAngelo Russell, congratulations on sticking somebody up for another check. Yo, with that, why look 53 when you can look? I can't believe this guy. No, I'm trying to say the truth. Why get $30 million when you should be getting $3 million? He gave 13. I'm a little upset.

For two years. And I don't get jealous, man. I'm a little upset. I looked up this week. I guess they started the trades and all that this week. It was like five NBA players in a world with $100 million and better. Do you know what rappers got to do to make $100 million? What's the percentage of rappers that ever made $100 million?

Couple rappers made $100 million. Not for rap. Yo, how you watch it? these basketball players, they'd say it. You watch the ESPN and shit, it's like, yeah, Julius Randu, 100 million three-year deal,

267, I think Poncchero got, but somebody, SGA. What's your SGA got? 274. Montcaro got 287. How much SGA got? 270-something for four. What the fuck?

What am I doing wrong? You don't know how to shoot the turn. Turn around. You got the leg for the euro. You already, you got the leg for the first jump of the year. Look, me, ah, did you? I got the, I ain't got the winner need to come back. You don't got to come back.

I ain't got the hop step in a jump. You got the 100 mil. You got the half euro. I don't got the hop to go back. I ain't got the first one. The hop skip and the jump. I got the first. Yeah.

You would have made. I got the looks as deceiving leg. It would have called you that there's just, you know, I had to move. Practers got there one-out. You got to stop. Yo, all right. Yeah, yeah. SGA 285 million without the comp, like four years, no agent fee.

No agent fee. Fuck. Pure money. The boy got his own money. Yo, he got his own shit. And I just want to know what the fuck we're doing wrong. My legs are bad. You can't shoot the turnaround, man.

Joe, this shit is... You don't know how to do the... You know, because you ever notice these ball players, they want to be rapists? I don't know what for. Let me talk... Let me speak on that. They want to...

Why? They don't... Let me... I figured it out. Ball players like rappers. They don't want to be... They want ball player money, but they want to be rappers with their contracts.

If they had to switch contracts, be less ball players they'd be playing the piano and on they wouldn't want to rap if they figured it out I just think everything's perception I think of smoking mirrors

I think the ball players think the ball players think the rappers got as much money as dumb they've been watching it I'm telling you they can't think bro I'm telling you I'm sitting next to Jeff Teague how much money Jeff Teague made in his career?

Yeah yeah all right pretty good what's pretty good I'll say over 50 See how much Good He said now Hold up

He signed a three year 57 and 2017 And then what else He got more than that Who else You know what 57 million is By the way the man told me Yo I remember your old team

One of these things He was driving He made nearly a hundred You was driving a black pet Like Fuck you can You got a hundred million Like

98.8 to be exacted. They look at us. 98.8. That's on a low it. Like he's not... That's on a low end. That's on a low end. Yeah.

Low end my ass. Well, I used to go see... Where I'm from. I used to go see... I used to go see Ron Ortiz and fucking Queensbridge projects. When he got that, like, 40 million and something, he had an old school pickup truck. He used to play for me at the Rucker.

I would go to Queensbridge to get him. He's sitting out there with Sondonclet. on front of the bit. Like somebody ain't tell him, you're filthy rich superstar. And he was out in the projects, in the summer every day. And by the way,

Ron Altess is undefeated in the Rockers history. He never played a game that he lost. So if he played a hundred times, you could have bet the kitchen sink on him. He never lost. One time we had a game, he cut himself all the way here. He taped the shit and still won the game.

Ronald Tess, he was different. But it's safe to say I will switch with the ballplayers any day. And the baseball player. Yo, we got to wrap this up. Shaka. You're making me mad. Ronaldo shit.

Renato is Saudi Arabia getting like 500 million taking the plane to Dubai every day. There's a 30-minute flight. He lives in Dubai. It's 700 million over 200 million. Disrespectful shit. And he flies over there for the game and flies back. in the private, like a joke. His kids are in doable.

Y'all, this ain't that. That ain't this. And it's cracking kiss, baby. You already know what it is. The biggest fucking show in the globe, a phenomenon. Rookies of the year. We're going for that number one spot.

And let me tell y'all, I see y'all shaking in your boots. We coming. The train that's coming, baby. The train this coming. See you. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?

We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.

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Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on, a Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman. Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud. But how long can this alliance last?

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