The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Jalen Rose & God Shammgod on Fab Five & NIL, Kobe Bryant, Rucker Park & ‘Meal Ticket’ doc

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

During the NBA All-Star Weekend, Fat Joe and Jadakiss were joined by Jalen Rose and God Shammgod for a special live edition of Joe and Jada. They talk about the media's treatment of Jalen's Fab Five Michigan team, the emergence of NIL in college basketball, Shammgod's memories of training a young Kobe Bryant, Jalen's famously immaculate hairline, LeBron James vs. Michael Jordan, and how Shammgod invented the move named after him. Also, Joe and Jada drop gems about the 1990s hip hop industry, the story behind "Lean Back," and their favorite Biggie and Big Pun verses. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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wherever you get your podcast. The greatest trick that the media played on society is that the FAFI was some dumb Negroes that went to Michigan. Who's on the honor roll? I seen that. That was like the biggest trick. And we didn't have like social media. I couldn't say nothing.

I'm like, I'm on the Dean's list. They're treating me like I'm some dumb. What up y'all? I'm Joe Crack to Dawn. Your boy Jada. It's the John Gia's show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. All-Star

2026. We've got our brothers. Gars Sham Guard, Jalen Rose. Make some noise for them. Coming from where we come from if you love basketball, you're there's a lot of levels of basketball, but

we all know. But being the McDonald's All-American is probably the best things you can accomplish in your career as a high school kid. You know what I mean? Playing amongst all the grades. We're going to find out. We're going to talk to him about the film.

We're going to have some fun today. Is this a pop or we're going to open this at some point? Now, we can open that shit up. We got ace. Open that shit up is a lot to celebrate about. So I just have to say this. Because this is actually crazy. I think I'm the oldest person up here.

I'm older than you, Craig. I tell you one thing. If you older than me, definitely using rewind the time. I bet you on a box You said, Joe, I'm not ready for that You might as well make money off To get higher in your own supply I got a different

You wind it 10 in CBS Sally's Stop and shop No, I got a plan Joe I got me a couple of steps that I'm going to do Yes I have a plan of working on beauty products And stay tuned That's why I got to

love for you. I ain't know. I thought you was missing out. No. But I have to say this. I really have to say this. Like, this is like real still. Like, I love you. We love you. This ain't no Hollywood like friendship, relationship,

kinship. Like, I've been in Miami at three in the morning and he saved my life. Real talk. Like, I have the Jada kiss bust for the Hall of Fame and he don't even have it because he gave it to me. These are the only two people that I believe that have a show that I'm on their show and they've both been on my show. Yeah, that's a fact.

Right. You know, we got jerk by Mello. I did Mello show. He did Mello show. That motherfucker won't come to our shit and nothing. Curve. He's curving us. He's curving us in the home of this.

turban. And so to see you guys doing your show, y'all killing it, dog. And this is their first live show. Give it up for them. This is their first live show. Give it up for them. And I got to say this about you. Like, the sham guy moving basketball is the equivalent of like wearing

George's. Like, it really is. Like, that's the real thing. And how you develop players, you're an incredible coach, and you've always stayed 10 toes down. Like, we love you, brother. I appreciate it. I love y'all, too. You know, you know, everybody up here family with me. Like, Joe knew me when I was young. Me and kids practically grew up together with the large children of the corn, Mace Cam and all of us. So me and kids been down, like, since 15 years old, 14 years old, knowing each other hanging out and stuff like that. So just to see, you know, their growth.

And then Joe went from being a terror to everyone to the stuff that he's doing now is amazing. And, like, Joe know, like, he's the first person I hit up. People don't even know. He's the first person I told that J.B. was going to be good for his next. When he asked me, he said, Hey, is Jailing going to be good? And I was like, I don't know if the team is going to be good,

but I know Jailen is going to be steady and he's going to be consistent. And my brother Jailen did way more than either one of us could imagine. So, you know what I'm saying? Like me and Joe always had a relationship. And since I was young, you know, Joe always did amazing things for the hood and stood up against people in the hood. So, like, there's always love. And like I said, kisses my brother.

Jailen Roses. What can you say? say about him and the five five you know what I'm saying so like he he got his own thing in in Detroit like I had in New York he was in the streets and went to the NBA and did his thing and changed the whole culture him and his five five brothers thank you brother I appreciate that so I have a Joe and Jada question because these are my actual brothers Joe I got to ask you a question mr. crack when did you get nice Nice to what?

You're a nice human being now. You're a thoughtful, you're intelligent, you're well-dressed, you're well-dressed. Like, when did this happen? I believe I was always a nice guy. I always had a current heart and everything. It's just we grew up with such a tough environment growing up that you had to be tough because you either was predator or you was prey. That refused to be prey.

It was bullied a lot when I was a young kid, so I had to grow into that. And then when I got in the rap game, it was no fucking difference. I don't want to disrespect hip hop, but it was like, you meet somebody. All right, I want to meet this rap. This is my man, two times a Mac. He did double life, came home on an appeal. Like, you're like, there ain't no B.Ds and masters in hip-hop. You just meet the craziest motherfuckers.

This guy killed 47. sex guys. He's my new role manager. So you had no choice but to be tough in hip hop. And so, you know, the shit forced me, but I always was looking for a way

to be nice and always be myself. And at the beginning, I ain't going to lie to him. We were staying, if I fuck with Jada kiss, if I fuck with Fab, if I fuck with Biggie, if I fuck, we would stand in the club and stare at each other and just be like,

Nobody will say nothing. Like, you just look at them, you be like, he'd be like, and thank God now we got, we can show our personality and shit like that. So for Jada, my other brother, and shout out the chic lute and styles Pete. Oh, sorry, brothers, too. Give it up for the lots.

Like, I love seeing people wearing the shirt now, the hat now, because sometimes it takes time for people to catch up. So I had to ask you, 5 DOA that's now doing podcasting and expressing yourself about the industry and current events. Like, what made you decide that this was the opportunity for you to express yourself in this space? Great question. I mean, because y'all are, like, top secret.

Like, the locks are like, like, like, secret service. You know what I'm saying? Family. It's all about growth and, you know, evolving. In the state of where the world is right now, people want to hear authentic stories from people that lived it or people that have been through. It had, in fact, I was supposed to do something years ago.

It didn't. They didn't ban out. Shout out to the rock. You got to be mad as hell of people. And your name is actually crap. That's your actual name? Yeah, but it wasn't crap. You know, I stole crack.

But it wasn't because I stole crap. But normally, like, he shamed God because of his handle. You're a crack. Well, I'm cracked because the crack of my ass used to show. And the girls are telling you. Hey, there's your day. Hey, me too. Hey, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe.

Joe, Joe. Hold on. I stopped cussing like 20 years ago. That's a BS, Joe. It's not because you stood up one time and you're cracking your ass and showing their class. I'm telling you.

I'm telling you. That is not, you're telling me, but I saw you. That's not the... Spike Lee, I caught Spike Lee on a flight to L.A. And I talked the hole in his head for six hours. Spike changed my life. Do we got any more flags? Yes.

I better re-up. Y'all might have to get TDJs on the show. I know, do you know that we know why your nickname is cracked? Do you realize it? No, the feds is watching. Let me tell them my bullshit story, all right? Okay, cool. So I convinced Spike Lee, you know, let me try out for this show.

He has, she's got to have it on that. And when I went to try out, I made it. And so before I could do it, because, you know, Spike Lee, Mr. Pro Black, Mr. Conscious, he brought me in front of his whole staff. He made me explain why my name was Cratt. I was like, you know, I'm in junior high school. I always been fat. By the way, I always been fat, Joey since birth, okay?

I've never been skinny in my life. I've been fat, Joey. One years old, two years old, three years, they always been fat. Joey. So, you know, I would get up to go write something on the board and junior high and the girls be like, eh, Joey Crack. So that's how I got the name Joey Crack. When I explained it, you could see the whole staff, Spike Lee's staff was like, ah, all right. He sold it, huh? Yeah, sold it. Okay, okay. Double in Tondra. Okay, okay. If you want to believe that, fun.

Congratulations. We love you. Y'all Jalen Rose, you're gonna'all. Hey, kid. The man, got the sharpest line. I gotta go to Turkey to get some shit.

Like, you got that fucking head dude, that shit. That shit of cutter, motherfucker. I got a cut tonight. You catch a fucking paper cut. You fuck with that shit. I'm gonna watch that shit on TV.

I say, man, in there got the sharpest line I ever seen there fucking work. How many cuts you get a week. So the craziest thing for public consumption is I literally just get a haircut before y'all see me. There's nothing special. Like, I knew I was going to be on joining.

I can see that. I can't have a haircut today. You cannot get rid of that barber. Your Barbie elite. I won't. The second you try, I won't. I won't. I won't.

Let me tell you something. I see all the time. I got a problem. I have a serious problem. I'm a shopaholic. What did I do now? Jada. I didn't say nothing.

I've seen that hand movement. I'm already like, abuse. Like, I see the hand go up. I'm thinking I'm getting the flag for no. But, you know, I like shopping and shit. And I got a real big problem. And what they told me,

you don't dress. They're going to say you fell off like a real. Motherfucking. You better keep blowing that bag. Because, yo, let me tell you something. You try to... So... Hey.

So I... I love y'all show. I watch y'all show each time. So I would love to ask y'all a couple of questions. You've been asking us questions. I don't know if you know. We love... This is the fucking...

Tholey. Go ahead. Jaylon. No. Joe. Jalen. Okay, cool. I got one question.

I got one question. Jay, Jay. I got one question. because we all grew up together. So people that don't know, like Jada kids play basketball, elite shooter, still could shoot now. When did you say he was going from playing basketball to rap it? I know when Mason Kim did it because I was with them every day,

but when did you go from that to wrap it? I got all the wrong letters. The wrong schools. I got letters. This wasn't right. Mercy College. Yeah, I'm like, yeah. Ju-co, Jr.

Is it? Is it? Double T-2s, couple D-3s. Couple D-3s. Some, um... But it wasn't, it wasn't happening. Like, uh, I was a-a-all-but you had to be, you got to know when the fold them,

Kenny Rogers. You got to know when to fold them. That wasn't, I'd have been a little bit taller, a little bit faster. I probably never would have went in the booth. But God didn't bless me with those things. I had to figure something else out. Well, just like a ball player for y'all, you know,

yonches is right next to the Bronx to say, Ingo or whatever. And so I heard about these guys and they were dumb, y'all. And they was like, yo, there's these guys. They call the warlocks. Just like basketball, when you hear of a player, they just like, yo, these guys call the walllocks. And I'm like, the walllocks.

And it was like, yeah, they did nice. And a couple of times I drove by, they used to hang out at this gas station. So I would ride by and I'd be like, and they'd be like, yeah, that's them. That's the war. And then they just blew the fuck up. You know, it's like that.

When you hear somebody's name, you know what's crazy is when we think of basketball. Stefan Ballberry, you know, he grew up in the projects with Coney Island. I want to know if this happened to you. He said he'd be outside 10 years old, 10. dribbling in the park and he would see like white men

just standing there watching him and he's in the middle of the hood and white man to be over there looking at him at 10 years old, 11 years old 12 and he was like, yo they was the scouts and they knew when I was 10 years old I was

going to the fucking league. Yeah because he had Because he had you know he had three brothers that played and they didn't really make it so they put everything in So that's why when anybody, like, argue me about Steph, it's hard for me to really even understand the argument because, like, when I started playing basketball,

I didn't start playing basketball, so I moved to Harlem. So I started playing basketball late, like 11, 12. And it was so crazy because me and Steph used to hang out. And I'm like, this dude is the number one seventh grader in the world. And I'm like, man, I'm not even 200 in New York City. There's no one in the world. In the world. I'm like, how is he that much better than me?

So then he, like, forced me to work out every day. And then my senior year, when we both was 12th grade, we both got a co-player the year, and I got to number 15 in the country. But, you know, while we here, made the McDonald's or American game. And it's so funny because when I was in the ninth grade, my coach was just like, hey, what you wanted to do?

And I was like, I want to play McDonald's World American. I ain't know what the hell I was talking about because I didn't know what the game was. And he was like, how do you think you're going to play McDonald's? You're like 296 in the city. And the ninth grade, and I was like, ah, nah. Then my coach told me, he was like, yo, you come here every morning, because I went to LaSalle Academy, he was like, you come here every morning at 6 o'clock,

when I started at 8. He was like, I'll work you out every day. And then at the school, you stay two hours later, and we'll work out. And he was like, you should be able to make it. And just because he said that, and because I was hanging with Steph every day where, like you said, I remember his pops had him running up the stairs in the project, we would go to Coney Island. His father would make him play with

invisible basketball to work on his form. Like, a hundred jump shots, no basketball. Just shoot, shoot, and shoot it. And then, like, he used to always tell me, man, you could do it, this and that. And I used to be like, and then because my father used to train boxes, so I was already disciplined when I moved from Brooklyn.

So it was just all about work. And then I dribbled so much until, like, in 11th grade, I used to stay in the park under the lights and I thought I could shake my shadow. So that's how I used to, used to dribble so fast. Because I just was like,

I know I can make my shadow move. I know I can make my shadow move. So I was looking like poop. Crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. Make my shadow.

I was looking like, that's a Bruce Lee shit. I was like walking through the thing. But my thing for, like, Joe is, because I played in 55th, like in the 8th grade and 9th grade, what made you want to start coaching in 55th? Because, you know, back then,

55th, for people that don't know, was like a movie. It was like, you come up there. Tell them what 50-fifth. Yeah, 55 is Rock a Park. So, like, when I first moved up there, where people don't understand, one of the reasons, I mean, Jay, Jay de Kisno,

but, like, Mace is the first person that ever took me to basketball, play basketball. And that's Mace that used to rap. So he was like, hey, I'm going to take you to this park to watch this game. And I was like, all right, you know. At this point, I never played basketball.

I used to live in Brooklyn to do karate and do wrestling and all that stuff. That's when that, the white Chinese, white man, I used to come on the kung fu that wasn't Chinese. Jim Kelly. Yeah, he used to walk everywhere, but he wasn't Chinese. He was walking the desert. Jim Kelly was like for Chuck Norris.

Yes. Oh, you mean the Chinese thing and they used to be walking like the monk? Yes, yes. So that was like my whole thing. What's the name? Wrestling. Yes. Yes. Oh, no, that was legendary guys. Y'all too young for that shit.

Yes, so I used to watch that and do wrestling every day. So then when I moved to Harlem, you know, in Brooklyn, the other thing you used to do was Robin Still. So, like, when I moved to Harlem, it was like a movie because I actually saw, like, black people making money, Sadie's Benzids,

even though they were drug dealers, like it was just like a movie. Then I go to 55th, and I happened to go the day of the All-Star game. And I saw a guy named Malloy Neesmith that would forever be my idol.

I don't care. Malloy, who like future Malloy? Yeah. So I don't care how much basketball. He was the king of the Bronx. Yeah, so he was like, if y'all don't know, know Malloy, hopefully I know Carine Reed,

they're like probably the most legendary point guards up there because they played for so long. And I went up there and I saw Mike Boogie get on one knee and dribble through Malloy legs at 50-f and that forever changed my life. I was hanging in the tree

and I saw like it was people coming up there getting dressed at halftime, getting Jordans. At this point, I was wearing spot bills. I didn't even know what Jordans was. Spot builds. That was the shit. It was plastic.

So it just, like, changed my life. It was, like, entertainment basketball because that was the first time I saw something that, like, entertained fans and, like, which made people famous that wasn't famous. Like, you know, like, local heroes, like, walking down the street and people, like, instantly know you. Like, that's Malloy Mason.

That's Master Rob. I remember when somebody said, man, you know Magic Johnson. I said, he can't mess with no Malloy. So when you're watching the league right now, and you're watching college, and I would love to ask you this one. It's okay. It's like, people say the sham god dribble.

Like, it's a real thing. That's a fact. It's like muscle memory. It's like when you go to the doctor and it hit your knee, you know what I'm saying, for muscle memory. So how did that come about? And for those that don't know what that is,

please tell them what the sham guy dribble is. Well, it's like, what people don't understand, it was like, I used to watch a minor this guy named Sherman Anderson. and he used to always dribble up the core with one hand, like going like this, like inside out, one hand, one hand. And then you factor in, like, when I was growing up to like,

I know Joe and Jada could have late since you can't, it's like, you know, it's like when you see Kooji Rap and all of them when you're growing up, like these are like superheroes. So when I first started playing basketball, even though I was hanging with Steph, Kareen Reid, Ray, Rafe, Austin, all these people, they was already playing basketball since 10. I wasn't playing.

So these dudes was like the Avengers to me. Like I just like, yo, these dudes is off the chain. If I ever could come a little bit good like them, I'm gonna be nice.

So then like I said, I watched this kid named Sherrin. And then Rafe was like real nice at the time. For people that don't know, that skipped to my look. So he used to do all this skipping stuff. I went to PS 90,

I went to PS 175. And the janitor, one day I'm in there dribbling and stuff. up in the general. It was like, man, if you just took it seriously, you could be somebody. And I was like, man, who the fuck we think you are? Who are you talking about? So I don't even know who he is.

I go home. I get this tape called Blow the Rim, Below the Rim. That's what it was like VHA said. It was like Kevin Johnson, Maddie Johnson, Jason, Jason, Jason, Jason, Jason, and Tim Hardaway. But in the middle of the tape, it's like, Pistoo Pete, Earl Monroe, Tiny Archibor, all these people. So I'm like, man, this dude looked familiar. So I go back to school.

I'm just watching him for a week. So then I got the courage, and I said, hey, do you got a son named Tiny Archibor? And he's like, what, what are you talking about? And I was watching this tape, and it said Tiny Archibor. But his name is Nate Archibor. Right? So I'm like, I'm not even putting two.

And I was like, he's skinny, so he can't. But I'm thinking like the people think now, if you play in the NBA, you're rich. So I'm looking at him and he's like, no, what are you talking about? That's me. And I'm like, what? there's no way that could be you. And I was like, why didn't tell me you played in the NBA? And he was like, oh, you little kids just think you know everything.

So I just let, and like, to this day, that's one of my closest friends. But he the one that told me, like, he was like, if you master something and you do it for free, one day the world to pay you for it. So then we got an NCAA tournament in 97, I was actually trying to do another move. This move, Kenny Anderson used to do, he used to like go fast, change direction, throw it between his legs. And what happened was the ball slipped. And the only thing I can remember is the dude is Sherrin.

I used to grab the ball like that. And then because I watch film a lot, I went back to stay. I'm like, man, this thing, I'm like, man, that move could work. But then I still ain't think none of it. And then I came home in the summer. And I went to the park I grew up in and I'm just looking through the fence. And these little kids like, oh, man, I just shamed you. I just shamed you.

I'm like, what are you talking about? And then the kid was like, yeah, I just shamed guards him and all that. And then the next thing you know, it just went viral. like that and it's like one of the most humbling feeling because I know everybody up here and anybody here if you work anywhere you want to make it better than how you found it and for me I get to live in my inspiration every day because Mark Cuban people like that gave me a platform to show my talent so like when people say like Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul doing the sham guard and they're like yeah you know he's sitting right there his assistant coach so for me that's just amazing feeling because

I know when I'm dead and gone, I left basketball better than how I found it. Wow. When a kid is 10 years old, they will learn how to do the sham guard. You know, I'm fraud, right? I'm fucked up in the head. So I think of shit, you know, I grew up in the world with you had to go get, like,

it was a treacherous world. When I seen NBA players do the sham guard, I thought they jerked you. I was like, yo, these niggies jerking shab. That's the shit. I was melt them tight. I'm watching them. It wasn't like you would be like,

yo, he did my move. I'm like, yo, they jerking sham. That's the fucking sham guard shit. Like, yo,

that's fucked up. And I look this shit so different. I'm not a positive thinker, man. I looked at it. I was like, yo, they owe him money.

Yeah, that's what everybody said. Everybody be like, man, did you collaborate because you can get money? And I'm like, I'm like,

nah, for me, it's like, it's just one of the most craziest feelings in the world because, like, I would forever be known as one name. Forever.

Yeah, but, but, but who was it? There was one NBA player. I was watching the game live. And they interviewed, they was like, yeah, what's the move you did it? He said the sham guard. Yeah, that was, that was Westbrook. Fuck.

Yeah. Westbrook gave it up. Yeah, Westbrook was like, yeah. Oh, he did the move. He did the move. And then the fucking announcer was in the oil. He was like, yo, what did you just do? What would you do?

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Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a...

We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about define the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.

And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall.

And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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That's the other thing. We're going to you, Jalen Rose, right? You're richer than everybody on here, so you'll speak later, right? Yo, Shand, like, you never see the beauty of your story. We talked about Omar Cook as a coach for Cleveland now. The beauty about your story is we never see nobody from the street, street playground legend to go to the NBA. That's why I skipped. is so special.

We all offer inspiration. And then you go NBA, but you also go and coach. Yeah. You know, that's offering a lot of hope, a lot of inspiration. And that's what makes you so dope.

No, I appreciate it. You know, every, you think about everybody we ever seen, you know, there's some nice guys on here, like phenom.

Facts. And they never did that. but the whole thing is like to give it up to y'all is like and kids could attest to this like we come from a place where things seem hopeless but I saw hope

you know what I'm saying when I see when I see fat Joe at the time being fat Joe when I see Jayzie at the time being Jay Z these is you know and even puff to a point like no disrespect all love like part part I've been in his life

is all loves like so like they gave me the inspiration because like I said, when I was in Brooklyn, I didn't see that. I saw like rob and stealing this and that. Not saying uptown wasn't crazy. The Bronx wasn't crazy. Brooklyn was crazy. Yeah, but they also, the thing that was different from Brooklyn to all the mother barrels is like the stuff y'all was doing, you still was getting money and you still

was like looking good, like still like, man, I could be something. And it wasn't like, oh, Fat Joe's going to jail, Jay's going to jail, this and that. Like, when I'm running around with kids, maize sheik styles all of them like we get to see people over us that was like doing stuff that actually made money so it's like so that's why like even in my book when i wrote i'm like you got to be a you got to be careful who you say who's the hero and who's the villain right because i grew up with drug dealers that when i became nice in basketball paid my mom's rent for two years so do i think they're a hero or do i think they're a villain you know what i'm saying

I went to Providence. You know, one was on America's most winning. He was number three. And I never knew that. I'm in the park elbow on him, talking stuff to him. I think it's a mass murderer. You know what I'm saying? But he always told everybody in the hood.

He wouldn't hurt you. Yeah, everybody in the hood. He was like, yo, make sure a sham play ball, make sure sham is good. So those are people I grew up around. So it's hard for me to always be like, so that's why when I tell kids it's easy for me to coach them because I give them the dead truth and say, you, this can happen, that can happen.

But if you let me help you, I can help you. You can still say what you want, like with Kairi, like when it was me and Ka. It's like, yo, you can still say what you want, but let me help you because the worst thing you could do is say, you misunderstood if you're not trying to let people understand you. Say that again? I need a glass of this.

You can't say you misunderstood if you're not trying to let people understand you. Too tell a felon, where you at, then. So my whole thing in life was always to try to let people understand me because I know I would never be perfect. We all are not perfect. I'm going to fail short even when I try to do good. But if you have people that can understand you, at least they can say, you know what?

I ain't really with that. I understand what you got going on. So I'm just leave it along. But when they don't understand you, that's when the confusion start and the madness start. And now it's problems. You know what I'm saying? Which you see in Harlem all day with my brothers that I try to make sure

get on the same page. It's just like with Mason Kim. Like kiss and all. I'm just like, yo, you got to get together, bro. Like, we are family. Like, something happened to me, your family are going to be upset. Something happened to you. My family is going to be upset.

Even if we don't speak, my family, my son and them still call you uncle. Right? I say that about hip-hop. So I don't know where it started. Where they try to put a false narrative. Yeah, all rappers don't get along and all that. But when somebody's... They don't.

I'm with here Grumpy Uncle Grady, right? Yes, yes But say something real sad That recently happened Little John's son I don't know him

But I felt bad instead of a mean prayer For Little John because Little John's my brother And I love him I didn't know his son But we got like a bond It goes deep in the rap That's not a rap but that's a father losing his sons Yeah

if you got any type of heart. But he's also a rapper. Yeah, yeah. So what I'm saying is... For me, he's no longer little John. This is a guy that I put myself... I mean, I can't imagine that feeling. So fuck the rapist, huh, Jay?

Then... A little bit. He said it's bigger than rap. He said it's bigger than rap. Yeah, as a man lost his son. But it's just like, you know, like basketball and rapping is like cousins. So, like, it comes.

from the most competitive place, right? Because you still going to have the street guy that think he better than the guy that's in the NBA. And then the NBA guy going to be like the street guy to understand what it takes to make it. So it's always going to be competition. It's always going to be competitiveness. So that's why it gets confusion. It's just like you said, when you went to the club and you see other people, everybody face fighting, but everybody in the same struggle.

But nobody talking about it. So they think they're coming from two different places. and they really not. Right? So that's why, like, in Harlem, there's no person in Harlem that ever played basketball that I haven't been in the gym with

or try to steer the right way, whether it worked or not. It's like, yo, I'm always here. I'm always, because when I left school early out of college, I wish I had somebody there for me to be like, nah, just stay one more year. Just hold on. You know, everything's going to be all right.

You know what I'm saying? But when we come from, if you got your mind made up, everybody like, oh, man, that's what's up. You should do it. Then when it don't work, they're like, man, you was bugging. way, bro. I don't even know why you did that shit.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like we know, we come from especially like jailing with the Fab Five did like if they had NIL, they had to be rich before then. They owe them. Yeah. So you feel they're they jerked them. They owe them.

Yeah. They owe them. You know, the world is fair. You know, the world ain't fair. The world ain't fair. Yeah. He still actually to this day. We have that UM game, the championship football joint, they still like, do you think it's

right to think, yeah, I think it's right. They got paid because these colleges been selling tickets, selling jerseys, and these kids ain't been getting shit, and they've been like, all right guys, thank you. And not only that, these jerseys

stay fat five, your jersey is still selling. Well, the one thing about sports and money is and I've talked about this a lot so I'm not like interfering with things that I have going on because I've been talking about this for 30 years.

The only sports to have salary caps are black lid. Wow. First off. So that's basketball and football. Those are the only sports are salary caps. Baseball, golf, NASCAR, tennis, you can keep naming it. They do not have a salary.

That's the first thing. Holy shit. He's correct. The second thing is they have no after high school restriction. And so that's a residue of slavery. It's because we're going to get money off of you for multiple years for free. There's no way around. How can we start some?

We've got to start a union, the coalition. Yeah, but they start. They do it. it now. They're getting paid now. No, but he just made it. They're going to finish. Yes. And so what happened in the game

is it became so obvious because of social media and because of information it's like, we're making billions of dollars. We've got to pay them something. That's how it ended up happening. And so for the player,

like, you're an artist. You guys are artists. We've been that bulls the wood. Right. And y'all don't take it. That's where I'm going. Like, I have a rape and pillage. And no shots or no shade or whatever, like, whatever. But I'm just like real spill.

Like, I have a free lock shirt. No doubt. Like, I have one. Let the locks go. Yeah. And what ends up happening in the entertainment is we're the worker, we're the talent, but we're not the owner. And that's the same thing.

in sports that happened with the NIL. So I'm happy to see players now getting paid off of their name, image, and likeness, but if you notice, you still got to pay the system. Like, NFL players, you have to be three years removed from high school to go to the NFL. A lot of people don't realize that. Maurice, got messed up. Correct. You can't go straight from the NFL after your sophomore year.

When you had your best year. Correct. You have to wait three years so the system can profit off you. It's the same thing with basketball. Like, NBA players have shown Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, like that you can come out of high school and be productive in the league. But they still don't allow you to do it so that you can feed the system and they can make money off them.

And so I sit on a table about this for a long time. for 30 years. And the greatest trick that the media played on society is that the FAFI was some dumb Negroes that went to Michigan.

Who was on a hundred row. I seen that. Yeah, that was the, that was like the biggest trick. And we didn't have, like, social media. I couldn't say nothing. I'm like,

I'm on the Dean's list. They're treating me like I'm some dumbies. And I took that personal. So I'm happy that they're allowed to be paid right now. and but if you notice the NBA still got a salary cap

NFL still got a salary cap. I never knew that so that's how they say you learn something new every day and both of those sports are like 75% 80% black you can name on one hand a black owners it's like oh you're Michael Jordan you're one of the greatest of all time so you can be an owner

is there a black owner in the NFL? I don't think it exists. No. Magic is partially, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Magic's different, though. Yeah, he, that's what I don't like. What Kanye says?

Don't say it, don't say. But you, but you like, to your point, it's like, I remember in 12th grade, me and Steph, we met with Spike Lee for he got game. So a lot of people don't know, like, it's based on, like, part of Steph life and then off my name. He wanted to name the character, God. And he was like, when he saw me playing LaSalle, he came up with the idea of like, oh, Jesus, Shuttleworth, because he wouldn't say God or whatever.

And me and Steph auditioned. And then he was like, oh, I'm going to give you all part. But he was like, the problem was if we took the role, we'd be NCAA ineligible because we was getting paid. So that's why Steph ain't even do his own movie. And Ray Allen was going to the NBA so he could do it. so that's what people don't know about like how the whole movie thing came about you know that's it.

And Spike talk about this. It's not me just saying it. It's Spike talked about how he saw me play a little style and then he got the idea of like, he was like, man, he got that name and he's good in basketball. And then that's, instead of using God, he just Jesus shuttle. And that's what I want to ask you, Kiss, and I don't ask you, Joe,

because I see a lot of, like, articles about streaming and how they're not doing. doing the artist justice per se. Like the artists say we can have like a billion. This literally reminds me of the NCAA and NIF when I see this about artists. It's like you can sell a billion streams but make like 50 cents.

Well, I don't even understand. I don't even know if they made a book. I don't even know if there's anywhere. They just made up their own rules with you. Am I right? Right? I don't know what the fuck they're doing. And I don't mean to bring up a story topic,

but this is how I felt. This is how I felt. If you go to any, maybe the higher-ups and, you know, if you go to Paris and Vivendi and somebody like that and some type of people can explain it to you. But I'm almost 97% sure if you just ask any of your friends, other artists, athletes, they're never going to be able to explain it to.

That's crazy. So that's the equivalent of me playing at Michigan. And so now it's pay for play. So Fad Joe's a great high school player, and he's going to pick a school to go. Now they're picking the highest bidder. Yeah. But most of the players aren't selling goods.

That's called pay for play. So what made us different is we would have been selling barragees. Black socks. Or like we were jerseys. Like we were selling product. Artists, y'all are selling product. You know what I'm saying? So I don't understand how I can buy your song or your album,

but you don't get paid from it, really. How does that work? We've been sold down. from the forefathers. And unfortunately... We're trying to give her viz for what they did. I'm trying to figure...

Is that a flag or something? Why you laughed at that? Why are you laughing at that? Because... I want to hear why you found that funny. Because they didn't sell us out. They didn't know. They didn't know, they didn't know, they don't know.

What happens is we've been... sold out by the four fathers. And unfortunately, in the black and Latino community, it's like when you watch a bunch of kids playing with the ball and the kid goes, my ball, you can't

play with it, my ball. Both of that he thought he was the only person that could make a dollar. The whole entire industry he wanted every dollar you could think of, right? A couple of other guys wanted every single dollar you could think of. So it wasn't like,

each one teach one it was like yo play the rubic's cube to you fucking crap the code so no one to this day no one told me you can get a dollar like this it's definitely not

a game that passes on intel or but there's people who knew it though there's no there's people and I love everybody I'm not throwing shots up for nobody like that somebody like no I didn't mean that I did not mean that what I'm trying to tell you is I didn't mean it in that way.

What I'm saying is the man wanted to be the king. Everybody wanted to be like a king and they wouldn't tell you. So we're going like this. I said this before Puff was ever in trouble. And he's a big inspiration to me. So, you know, but I'm in my video with bottles of fucking saraq. I'm wearing Sean John. I'm wearing this.

I don't know what the fuck going on. Next thing I know, he's selling these shit for a billion dollars. And so we're influencing the streets. They look and they're like, oh, we need to get that sweatsuit. We need to drink that sarat. We need to, they fucking named the whole Cocoa Loso after fucking fabulous. I don't think he ever got a dollar, huh? I wrote the bitch.

Look, we're not here pointing that puff, right? What I am saying is... What I am saying to you is... You wrote the Benjana? I sat down. Yeah, he wrote everything. I wrote his part. He wrote everything, but let me explain, Senator.

Not the... She wrote his part. I wrote my part of... Somebody I respect to the highest level in the universe who I don't think, but I know is highly intelligent, is Russell Simmons. And I used to ask him when I was younger. I'd be like, yo, why we ain't got no black distribution?

Why we ain't pressing vinyl? He'd be like, Joe, you really don't want to be asking that question. This is the guy who... That's like us asking about NIL. No, but never giving it, never get to the bottom. But he'll tell you, you don't even ask that shit. I'd be like, yo, what do you mean? It's the reason why nobody got the shit.

They don't want nobody to get that shit. And then you heard about people trying to make moves like that. and they always got in trouble with the law or some scandal came out. You know, they... Stay out of the air. They been scandling motherfuckers forever. We talked about somebody we knew

in the bat, in basketball. They were scandaling niggas forever. Like, okay, you're getting too loose? Wacko Jacko. So that adds a question that I have for you, gentlemen, because there's a dope bar that I love. You know,

dead rappers get better promotion. Am I lying? Right? So I want to ask you with Big and you with pun because like those are two of my favorite artists that rest of peace aren't here

anymore. Like wouldn't you, and I'm going to start with you kiss, like see in Big when he was alive and what disappointed you about how he was projected after he died because that's your line.

What I saw when he was alive was a good guy that took care a lot of people, very humorous. Unlike the stuff, me and Craig just said he did put myself and my brothers on to all of the powers that beat and the discrepancies and what to look for from Ditty and how he was going to be and this and that. You know what I mean? How to be an artist and how to conduct yourself.

Things like that. That's what I was able to. learn from him my time being able to spend with him. After he passed, I got that line kind of off him and punt. Buff was able to sell 10 million

off the No Way Out album after the passing a pick. So I've seen a lot of people just claim to be cooler with them than they were. One of the things I don't like, one of the things I don't like is through all of the

through all of the glitz and glitz and shits and giddlers. People don't have the relationship with his kids. They'd be so cold. Everybody was big, man, and this and that. They didn't know his kid's number. They never spoke to his kids. They don't got his birthday.

They don't. So that's the crock of shit right there. But it's a lot of that that goes on with this industry. There's a lot of smoking mirrors. When you come across some good people that do good business, and you're able to have a relationship outside of the music business. Stay tight with them and everybody else.

Fuck. What about you, Joe? Big pun. Yeah. Complicated. After he died, there was no more money. So it wasn't like, you know, I never made a dollar from him. Really?

Really. That's a fact. Really? Never made a dollar. One of the dopest MCs. Yeah, but, you know, You know, what happens is I just seen, and I want to quote this right, but I breezed through, but I knew what he was saying.

I just saw an interview with French Montana said he sold 65 million records that still don't got a royalty. This shit is raping you records. We'll be raping. Rape you raping. No, this shit will be raping you, raping you with this shit here. 65 million records? That's what French Montana.

said. So what I'm trying to tell you is the only... Similar to the NBA is, right? Correct. Correct. It's actually worse. Worse. It's like college. You guys got a union. It's the college in the air. You guys dish it. Hey, it's us to Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name,

Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential type. title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a parameda Pousal chin here you do. So let's talk about it. Join me on my new podcast. How hard can it be with Deanna Maria Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to

Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How can it be getting naked at 50 with a new guy?

That one's kind of hard. Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to. try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears or tears of laughter, and dive into it unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of My Cultura podcast network available on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about

defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reef. and finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series

because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night bases on offense. And when IT's the same, friends stopped by like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court,

licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There are times when the mind becomes a difficult place to live. This is David Eagle with the Inner Cosmos podcast, and for Mental Health Awareness Month, we're dedicating a series to understanding the mind when it struggles. I'm joined by doctors, researchers, and those with lived experience. We'll talk with singer-songwriter Jewel about anxiety. I started living in my car, and then my car got stolen. I was shoplifting. I was having panic attacks. I was agoraphobic.

And making it through hardship. To be present is a learned skill. And it's hard to be present. It's hard to be present. We'll talk with John Nelson about clinical depression and the brain implant that saved his life. What I learned is that procedure made me happy because I'm disease-free. And we'll talk with leading experts like Judd Brewer about anxiety and John Hirschfield about obsessive-compulsive disorder and the science of how the brain can change. This is a month of deeply personal and honest conversations about what happens when the brain goes off course and what we can do about it. Listen to Inner Cosmos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, like I got an album to me is a big deal.

It sold 2 million records on Atlantic Records. And it's 20-something years that I never see a fucking dollar from this album. Like, to this gay. But I learned the business. and I've been independent for maybe 17 years. And now if I sell, if I put out an album, I sell 100,000 record, I'll make a couple of millions. So you've got to educate yourself and figure it out.

You know, what I'm in? Who is that? George Bush, something happened to me, shame on me. Something happened again. Fool me once, fool me two times, shame on me. That's on you. If you get jerked one time, and you ain't learning from the process,

Just everything in life, if you get taken advantage of financially. We're going to have you like a hockey. Due to your skills and your talent. By the third season and Joe and Jeter, you're going to be talking like a Harvard student. Let me think that's you. And so you got to learn from your mistakes and your lessons in life. And I've always been good with that. Meaning like I got a big brother that I looked up to that was a billion times smarter than me.

But he fucked this whole life up using drugs. So I never used drugs. So I could see you, you know, I grew up in the family of gambling, a hollics. We ain't had shit, no. I remember I used to be sitting on the fucking floor, the projects. I'm laying on the floor and watching my grandmother, my grandfather, my aunts, my uncles, they're playing the number.

They bet, and they last and everything. Right? And then one day, my mother hit. and the number, what's the matter? My mother hits. Listen, my mother hits, and she might have made $400. You only hit the number once every like year, two years. You're playing every day a hundred dollars.

She got a tip the lady. She played the number with. The whole family waiting for $10, $20 all the right. Before you know it, she won $40 back up to $800 she spent. The biggest scam. are you fucking with me. I did the numbers and the knowledge and I knew these people

are suckers. I'm not going to do that. And so now they booked me all the time in Vegas, right? And they're hoping you like a dophine. So in any other place, here, we're doing this little event. They walk me in through the back.

No, no, it's huge. But they walk me in through the back, correct? Any way I go, if I do a stadium show, they walk me through the back, club walking me through the back. Vegas is the only place they walk me to my show

in the casino due to the fucking tables. They want me to catch that dofine. If I'm a gambler, I'm stopping there. And I'm betting all the shit they just gave me back

in that table. Wish yourself good luck. I'll be by the table. Skip, did you do that. Skip, did. Where are the free food at? Like, we're the buffet. Glyzies.

You got me. But that's, but that's, yeah, kid. Yeah, Joe. But that's a little, I saw that episode. But that's, but that's the, that's the, that's the point. That's residual income for you, man. You been throwing the flags at me for that glizzy talk. But that's to your point.

It's like, when you grow up in the hood, you get so stuck in the pain for what happened that you can't see the things that could be better, right? So, like, for me, it wasn't easy, but it wasn't hard, right? So, like, even in my book, I talk about, like, you know, because people always ask me about my relationship with my father. My father's here. So, like... So, like, dad, he was talking about his pop.

I love pop. Yeah, yeah. He was talking to that shit with me. I always like to learn. So, like, all the stuff, all the stuff he'd been through, you know, when I was young, our relationship was, like, up and down because he went to jail and stuff like that. There things that happen, you know, me not being a man at that time, you know, you look at him and blame him for what's going on, right?

And then in the 11th grade, you have a son and then it changed your life. And then you figure, like, man, 11th grade? Yeah. So it's like, it's not always, it's not always his fault because he was going through stuff. And he was going through his own stuff and trying to figure out his own stuff. And then while he was in jail, finished college and all that stuff. And now, you know, as a man, you know, he's one of my best friends, you know, because I treat my kids and stuff like that.

But what he don't know is this, like, all the stuff he went through was the example for me not to go through. Exactly. So through his pain and his trials and tribulation, it made me successful as a person and made me not feel sorry for myself or be stuck in place and just always get up and like, you know, next day going to be better. You know what I'm saying? And just push that to the limit. So that's why I always try to pay it forward. And like I said, you know, I know, I know we hear, you know, y'all podcast. which was amazing podcast.

We hear about... Charlie Rose podcast, gang. No, no, no. And we hear to talk about the McDonald's American game, and that was, like, one of my first stepping stone to the NBA,

because when I looked at Jayhling Rose and the people before me, I was like, man, the dudes that make it to the McDonald's World American game go to the NBA, and, you know, all the stuff my father went through. I was just like, like I said,

the one thing he did always teach me, you know, being a five of a six, and stuff like that. It's always have discipline. I always have knowledge yourself, right? So I had knowledge of yourself since I was like six years old. Yeah.

So crack Kim, I lot. Hey, look at. So I always had knowledge of yourself since I was young and I was always proud to be black, right? So that's why when I went to Harlem, it was so impactful because it was the Apollo, the 125th Street, Jay to Kissing them was always at the mark 125. You know what I'm saying? Even though they was my age, they was doing something I've never seen before,

like putting words together and stuff like that. So it was always like mad love and mutual respect for them because it was just like, man, these dudes is going to blow up. I didn't know how they was going to blow up. But I'm like, man, these dudes in the hood is smashing. You know, whether it was him, maize cam. So as me going forward, I was like, I came my first stepping stone is to just make McDonald's or American.

So that's why I was just pressed because I was like, if I could make that, then my odds to go up, right? And I remember when I got the call over the loud speaker because that's when, and at this point, you didn't take the same position from the same city, right? So I already knew Steph was going to be McDonald's of America. Steph was the best seventh grade, best eighth grade, best ninth grade, best ninth grade, best two grade, best 11th grade. So I was like, man, I was like, it might be impossible.

I got to work hard because at that point they didn't take the same position. and we both as point guards. So when I got the call or with a loudspeaker, Steph was like the second person that told me I made McDonald's a American girl. And that's all I wanted to do because I wanted to make my father proud.

I wanted to make my father friends proud. I wanted my father friends to go tell him like, yo, this is your son. You know what I'm saying? So like for me, through all the childhood tribulations, I sing, like I say, like we're in the hood and stuff,

I always knew like it could be better. And I was like, I know what I, I didn't know what I wanted to become, but I said, I know what I don't want to be. And my biggest thing was I didn't want people to walk up to me. Like I used to see them walk up to people. I look up to him like, man, he used to be nice. So that's like a big insult to me.

Like when somebody I say, you used to be. You used to be. Talk about it. You kid used to look at fat Joe. Like, shit. I'm fly right now. Ister right now. Don't play that shit with me.

I got all my teeth. All my. All my. I got all my teeth. Don't play that shit. It's been a lifetime dream. Yeah. People get runs and then they get played that.

And then they remember they used to this. Not me. You called it a cast. So that's why I'm proud to be McDonald's all-American because to this day, those are my brothers like Steph, KG, Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, you know, probably the same jailer can speak to his class. Like, those are my brothers. Like when I see them, it's all.

Got a question for y'all. brought it up. It was the Joe and Jada show. I love you guys. Paul Pierce thinks that if he was in his prime it would be no LeBron

James. Get me out. But that's just the rivalry. He doesn't really. I went to bed one night and it was like, I'm going to be better. I went to bed one night. It was like Michael Jordan is nothing. I'm going to crush him. Please. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Let me finish this. There's a underdog. There's a favorite and an underdog. Yes, sir. You want to. Yeah, good. Good question. This is a dandy book, good.

Paul Pierce thinks, and if he was in his prime, it would be no LeBron James. Case in point or whatever. He says he made LeBron James team up with D. Wade and I'm going to go down to Miami, because they won them two chips in a row. He said, was past my prime and I forced him to go down to Miami and play with them because we had the

game on smash. So honest, smash is all right. So, y'all most good. No, no, no, no. I'm from full show you. What I'm saying is, can y'all both answer it as honest as possible? I'll start with you, Shamgar. Do you think that Paul Pierce, if he's at his prime, Nebraska, Nebraska. God got to wait six years for a chip or something? Nah, that's why I threw the flag because, you know, Paul is my McDonald's old American guy

and that's my brother. But the reason why LeBron went to Miami is because Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen came to Boston. If Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen don't come to Boston, then Paul Pierce never get a ring

and there's no reason for LeBron to go anywhere. So when he said LeBron went and Team Wend with somebody, it's not that he went at Team Double somebody, But somebody came and teamed up with him for him to win the ring. So you got to have the same grace for the next man that goes somewhere else. Listen.

What you think? One of my favorite verses came from big. And that's like, as I look at you gentlemen, it literally just came to me when he was like, if you sling, crack, rock, or you got a wicked jump shot. Because we idolized what you guys do and many artists wish they hoop. like jade kiss was literally just talking like i wanted the hoop but like i didn't get the offers that i like i heard cam talk about it i've heard multiple people talk about but to your question paul literally said he was past his front so therefore nothing stopped for lebrun at that time

the pistons were a couple of years older and like lebron is his gold stat he earned that he's not better than Michael Dornan. No. No. But he's going to static. Can't do that. What you think, Jada kiss? You always make a funny,

why do you heard that and you squinted? He said, they both said. I think you're a liar and deep down the side in your heart you think the Bronx better than Jordan. I think so. Because I'm satisfied this conversation come up.

No matter who the fuck is here. He always gives me a Twitch. I'm MJ. I'm MJ forever. Very smart, very cacist. But you're fucking, you know, like, you know, like that cop interrogation, you did it. You had the bottle in the store. You had the fucking bottle of the store.

So as somebody that played against Michael Jordan, played against Kobe, played against LeBron, I would just tell you guys something. There's nobody better than Michael. Talk slow to him. I want to be very clear. You're with us now, huh? Rich Paul in it. He's like, there's a reason why you're wearing his shoes

and he ain't played in 30 years. I agree. There's an actual reason. Just think about this. And I know the cool kids say pause now, so I thought it out there. But this gentleman played basketball with his tongue hanging out.

Just think about, you can't walk from this stage to the back with your tongue out without biting your tongue. Just think about that. You're convincing the wrong man. So you're wearing his shoes. You're preaching to the converting.

I'm telling you why you're wearing his shoes. It's not just because he won the championships. Like Jordan had that sexy, that fly. He showed up with the blazer, had the Ferrari, parked it in the arena, played with his tongue hanging. Like this is iconic. Part two to your answer. This is why I say Kobe Bryant.

the second best Walter. I was standing there when he scored 81. I know. I know. And the thing is, there's no highlights. There's no highlights in that game. Let me give you a full.

No hit record. Let me, and he sat down for the fourth. There ain't no hit records in that game. He sat down for the fourth. Let me explain, then. I mean, he did not sit down for the fourth. I go. That is not accurate.

Oh, so that wasn't that game? No. That was against a bad. No, that was. It was just a mass. Yeah, 65. 69 and sat down the whole four. That was against the math.

That was against the math. So we played. That was a warm up. So what here's, so I want to highlight what you're saying. So I'm going to highlight what you're saying. Kobe was on a heater that month. Like I looked at the schedule. And I'm going to do a story time.

Like, we weren't legal then. We was not legal. And our weed. We marijuana. marijuana was not legal. of his and Archie might have been a little bloated

trying to pass the test that night because they were there to test. I'm literally going to so you making excuses behind the 69? Ain't no excuses.

Kobe's my, that's my little brother. Like, if you Google right now who was Kobe Bryant's favorite player when he was in high school, it was me.

Hey, make some noise for that. There's some noise. If you Google that right now, it was me. So that's my little brother. Like, I'll never forget

we was working out of UCLA and y'all know this as artists we was working out and doing our thing and we felt like yo we're going to go to a birthday in Santa Monica and get massages and like rehabilitating and getting the steam and whatever

but what I didn't know his ass was going back to the gym and he didn't tell me so I was going to L.A. to kick it so we worked out in the morning you know this coach that's why you laugh at So, like, we go work out in the morning, and I'm thinking like we're done, and I'm doing the L.A. thing, his ass went back to the gym and didn't tell me.

He did that every fucking day. I got a story for you. I come up in Jersey. I parked the car in the garage. I'm going to see my man. He's one of them buildings that you go to the lobby, and you got to take the other elevator to go to 30th floor or something. You've got to get out in the lobby. But I got to keep this around me for you sometimes, Joe.

Okay. It's okay. It's all right. It's all right, right. Right? I come out in the lobby, and there's 30 people that live in that building surrounded the front desk. So, of course, I go be nosy. I'm like, yo, what's going on?

The security, the door man, is watching the little black and white TV. It's the finals. So I'm watching the finals. If you ever wondered one time you ever said, you're what were other people thinking at this moment? I happened to be there by mistake with 30 people watching the basketball finals. So I go over there, everybody's watching Asian people, white people,

like everybody, the whole lobby is wearing back watching this little TV. They down two points, right? The Lakers are down two points. The other team got the ball. So they're about to throw the ball at it. Kobe jumps over something hits the guy, the ball hits the guy and goes, the whole 30 people,

oh, everybody's crying. I'm like, they're still down to. They got the boy. Why are you crying at this point, guys? Because you knew that motherfucker was going to curl and hit that three in your face. That boy got checked in. He did the curl and shot that three in their fucking face.

The whole 30 people knew exactly what was going to happen with Kobe Bryant. And this is why I say he's the second best. This is why I say, right? So, like, what people understand is it goes back to, like, what kids was talking about were big, right? Or when his untimely demise is like when I see people act like they were more cooler with him than they were. It, like, bothers me to this day because, like,

But Kobe first came back from overseas. Small circle. I'm the first person that he met, right? We played ABCD together. And his father, I was dribbling and stuff. His father was like, yo, can you teach myself how to dribble? He was like, and this is not me talking. Because I ain't talk about it in 20 years.

Kobe said it in his retirement in Boston. So Kobe said it out of his mouth. When he retired, he was like, yeah, he was like. So when I first man, his father was like, you teach him out of dribble. He was like, my son got everything, but he really can't dribble. And I was like,

who's your son? And we had a game that night in ABCD and this dude like chewing gum, walking like Jordan, talking like Jordan. And at this time, I just made McDonald's All-American. I was like,

he's shooting all the balls. I'm like, yo, who the fuck is this shooting the ball? This is supposed to be my team right now. And we're in Jersey. So I'm like, I'm home. Like, this is my joint. And his father was like,

You know, he's just learning here, junior. At this time, Tim Thomas is the guard. Like, number one, playing in the country. There's nobody touching Tim Thomas. So then Cole was coming in to prove points. So I'm like, all right, you know, I get up every morning to work out. I do my own routine before camp start. So he's like, all right, what time you are I'm near?

And I'm being smart-ass. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll be there five in the morning. No one ain't going to be there five in the morning. So I get there like seven. He full sweating. Already. Like, oh, he actually came. He's just working out.

He's not mad that I came two hours later. He's like, what's up? What are we doing? What are we working on? So I'm showing him how to crossover, do all this stuff. And at this point, he's like a sponge, right? So he's just learning all this stuff. And I'd never forget, like, his first year in the NBA.

My first year in NBA, if you look on the highlight when he dunked on Ben Wallace, I'm right here on the baseline next to Ben Wallace. And I'm telling Ben like, yo, he's going right to left cross. I showed him. He's going to right the left cross. So then he crosses, come down laying and dunks on Ben Wallace. And he's like, and at this point, you know, when you're ABCD and you young, all the kids are like, you know, not hating on them. But you know, we tease people.

You're like, oh, you think you Jordan. You think this. You think that. And he was like, what? I'm going to be better than Jordan. Are you crazy? He was like, Jordan shoot 1,000 jump shots. I'm shooting 2,000 makes.

So you got to think, at 50% he just shot 4,000, right? A day. This is drive. So like when he gets into NBA and they start calling him Showtime and him and Shaq and all these people beefing and all that,

he was already so immune to it whereas Colby used to get on the bus with headphones on with no music just so he can hear people talk about him. Right? This is how vicious he was. So like when people talk about him it's kind of like, for me it's personal,

It's like the thing with Steph, like I seen him at that age, like where he was shooting, like you said, the discipline. He was shooting 2,000 jump shots back then. He wanted to play against Jell & Rhodes and Jerry Stackhouse him in high school back then. It was like, no, I'm the guy. Like, don't compare me to this person, that person. So like that right there made me and him to like to a 25-year relationship to where under his timely demise, I was training his daughter. Right? So I have a picture in my house where it's me, his daughter, the other two girls,

I have a picture of my eyes right now. Everybody in the picture is dead, but me. Because they was on the plane, right? So it's like, and the crazy thing about what his daughter was, he flies me to L.A. He's like, he called me. He's the only person to get a door. He called me. He's like, hey, I need you to train my daughter how to dribble.

And this time, I'm working with the math. This story's crazy. I'm working with the math. The kids know this story. So I'm with the math. He's like, yo, I'm going to fly. you to L.A. I want you to work my daughter out 100 girls. And I'm like, what girls?

He's like, my girls team. I got like four them. They're going to go to Yukon. I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, I get there. He's like, hey, we're going to start practice at 6 in the morning. He said, we're going to do 6, 8. We're going to do 6, 8, and 12.

So I was like, you want them to work out 6 hours? And he was like, yeah, he was like, I only want them dribbling. And I was like, oh, they can't dribble. six hours, bro. He's like, no, we're going to do two hours at a time. I just want them driveling. I go there. I start working with his daughter. She's just like him. What you got, coach? What you got, coach? Now, all the parents are there watching me train him. Eight o'clock come,

coach just dropped the ball, take his daughter to walk out. Come back. I'm like, you know, we're going to do some shooting? No, he's like, nah, I just want them dribbler. I'll take care of the shooting. Just want them dribbler. she's like what we got and I'm like cold they can't do this the whole week bro and she was like every day I walked in there coach what we got we got more oh coach look I learned this from earlier like so that's why when all the stuff happened

it was just so like unsurril for me because I meet people today that talk about yeah you know cold this cold my god this that they don't even know they don't even know they actually introduce them to assist them so it's kind of like with kids like you're saying you know somebody or somebody's your best friend or your mentor

how you don't know their sister right and I just saw his sister like a month ago and she was just like it's so crazy how when we was in high school my brother used to come to the house and be like yo this is the move sham God be doing this is the move sham got to be doing so like for me it's like

like I said it's no better feeling like all the stuff I went through you know going to the NBA not finishing, whatever, it's like, God just had a bigger plan for me, right? And when I was young, the only thing I wanted to do

is inspiring people. I wasn't thinking about being rich. I wasn't thinking about that because to Joe's credit, to like Jay Z's, to the rich porters of the world and all that. That's all I got from Harlem was inspiration.

So that's the only thing I knew that was concrete, right? It's the inspired people. So when the things happen like, Wacobe and the people that was put in my life, to even being on this podcast right now to the market. Cubans of the world, to being a part of rock nation, stuff like that.

It's like, there's no better feeling for me, right? So it's like everything I ask for, I always got. So that's why I'm like real big on being spiritual and real big on knowing this bigger than me. You know what I'm saying? Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.

What's the news, next? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.

We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. where people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down in my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game.

His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nasree. He has to guard Julius Randall.

And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball, like,

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This is a month of deeply personal and honest conversations about what happens when the brain goes off course and what we can do about it. Listen to Inner Cosmos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And that's crazy because like, by the way, shout to all the McDonald's high school, All-American. Yes, sir. That's why we're here. Yes, sir. And shout to Rock Nation.

Joe and Jada. Yes, sir. My favorite show and family. And shout to you, Sham, because one of the things that is overlooked about, like, this union is like the level of respect you have for each other. And how hard it is to be fat, Joe. Jay the kids and God's shame

and I don't want to get too preachy or like too therapy or whatever but like you gentlemen are successful yes and what ends up

happening in our community it ends up happening with you know notable figures is sometimes we underestimate what they had to overcome to be who they are right that's

that's a real thing. Like Jada Kiss, I know this human being. It's overcome some stuff. This fat Joe, and he acts like is because of this crack where he stood up, it's overcomes some stuff, right? God, sham God has literally overcomes himself. And the beauty of this audience

and the beauty of this opportunity is to, like, inspire people. That's really what we want to do to serve Like when you make music I hear you talk about this all of the time You've got so many hit records You got inspired the people And I just want to go back

Because they twist out your word Shout out the ditty I ain't throw no shot at it Because you know how they twist your shit We're not gonna kick you on you down He's with my guys in jail So he's really really good My guys

Shout out to the soldiers in four dicks holding it down. What would you be? And those Waymo vehicles on on the street? Where would y'all be? They're being controlled by prisoners. We would, where would y'all be?

I want everybody else this. Where would you be if you had Instagram? Back came out? Yeah. Where would you be if you had Instagram? I'd be coming up. I'd be in. Well, first of all, I'd be in jail.

I wouldn't be here. Yeah, I'd be in jail. I wouldn't have a wife. I agree. Oh, it said it fucked me up. That'd be the worst thing from my life. Financially, I'd have been like, Despacito, like, man, that shit would have been over a billion served.

That leaned back on Instagram. Imagine everybody you would have seen churches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the most fat, friendly dance you ever seen in your life. Facts. That shit would have been happy. How did lean back happen? Man, they keep telling us we got to go really quick.

We're not leaving. The Jamaicans was killing the game. So they had a signature plane, a rockaway, a underran, a running man. And that shit. So when we came up with the beat, me and Scott Storch, we in Caled Studio. And I was like, yo, this shit got to be a simple hook. and they didn't know yet. Stuff we know now, we didn't know.

But I knew that I had to make a simple hook that even a little kid could sing. And we spent on the top, I don't give a fuck about all that. And I just say, yo, and they be looking at me like, crack, what you think? I'll say, man, my people don't dance. We just pull up up a pen and say,

do the rock. A lean back. A lean back. I lean. And he was like, Yo! That shit crazy! And it was out of here.

We repeated it twice. And that's how I learned how to make hits, like, make it rain. And, you know, like, even when, if you think R&B, let me get real quick, but when you got records where they're like, they tell you that ain't it.

Yet, like, when the R&B singers are blown into the point of we can't even mimic it, and like, that's not a hit. It got to be something that we can sing along to, even though we can't sing, you know? You know, like, it's hard to sing, and I am telling you, I'm not going. Hey, before wrapping up,

who had the best McDonald's All-American class? Right? And also, shout Rock Nation, shout McDonald's All-American. Yes. Get your fries, extra salty, well-done. No, no, no. Who's 96?

Who's the... 95 is the best McDonald's American class. Who's 95? I might have been off for you. Gar Shambard, Stefan Marbury, Paul Pierce, Antoine Jameson, Vince Carter, Kevin Garnett, Tractor trailer, Chris Clack,

Chauncey Billups, Lewis Bullock. What's 96, Nat? 96 is Jermaine O'Neill, Kobe Bryant. Steve Nash. No, no, Steve Nash. That's the drive. You're talking about the drive. Not the drive. I'm talking about the high school.

Oh, all the American. Jimane O'Neill Stag Jack Rip Hamilton That next year? Yeah, that's the next year Rip Hamilton Shaheen Shaheen Holloway

We had arguably The best dunker ever Pence We had arguably one of the best dribblers ever Me You That's the best dunker You had

You had Stefan Marbury Culture Changer Yeah You had Kevin Garnett That changed the whole algorithm Yeah Wow You had

Chon Cillow Big shot. Yeah. You had tractor trailer. Rest in peace. The rest in peace. You had Paul Pierce. The truth.

Ron Mercer. Yeah. Well, we... That's a crazy class. When you were asking the question, crazy class. This ain't that. That ain't this.

It's cracking kiss. God damn. Make some noise for gentlemen. This sham guards, you heard. So, McDonald's All-American. The Dot. Yes.

This shit, step. been that three McDonald's All-American, so we represent. New York, New York. We got the rat lift twins, and we got one more going. They go into USC, and he's going, and the other dude is going to Michigan State.

I need to ask one question on the walk-up, because I got to take an old man piss. I got to take an old man piss. Sky Rizzi. You know, that ain't even, I looked it up. That ain't even for when you got a piss. You'll be saying, shit, but no reason. Flag on the plate.

So I got a question. I got a question for both of y'all. Who they let me ask my question? I love you, Joe. I got to go use the baffle. Who's the best? Huh? Your jacket is flas.

You know, this is. Talk to me. And the crazy, what the media did, with the Fad Fives out here. With the BAD out here. You don't say, he tried to act like his name came from his crack up.

It did. I cannot believe you. I just want to do that. Simple question. Who is the best female basketball player right now? Candace Parker. Right? I'm saying now.

Come right now. Asia Wilson. Asia Wilson. Asia Wilson. Asia Wilson. You're going Asia Wilson. You're not going Caitlin Clark. Asia Wilson.

Asia Wilson. Daughter. Asia Wilson. You got going juju-Ju Watson. No, you got to sit this one out, dog. I love jujuju. Asia Wilson. Asia Wilson, dog.

No, Asia is the truth. No, no. All right, hold up. I love you so much that I'm not going to say. Who the light skin girl, the pretty one? I don't give, I don't care. The ice skin girl. What's the name?

I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't want to talk about. No, no, I get PTSD because you're your question. No. So when I'm telling you, I need you to sit down. Who's the light skin girl? No, Jujo. No, Jujo. No, Jujo's, she's going to take all of them.

Yeah. She's taking the ball out. Jujuju from L.A. Juju from L. She's going to take. Jujuw Wachins is going to take all. All of the mouse. I'm telling you.

He's no stewed. No, the white girl. What's the light-skinned girl? She played like mellow. Now Fisa? Now Fisa. Yeah. Nice too.

Now Fisa, nice. Now Fisa dead nice. I like the home in that. But you didn't ask. You didn't ask me who was nice. You asked who was the best. AJ is the best. There's no.

There's not a dumbie player baited Asia Wilson right now. There's not. Yes. That's the fact. There's not. Now what's your question? All right. For clickbait, for clickbait, because I got to take an old man, Katie and Clark.

So, come here, Joe. I got a question. Come here, Joe. Let him get his question. I love you very much. Come here, Joe. Because I got a treat for the crowd. So, like, these are, like, legendary figures.

The bathroom. I'm probably. So that's what it is. So that's what it is. Go use the bathroom. Sky wrist. So. So I'll ask Jada until Joe come back.

Because I always wanted to know this because, like, I'm a Detroiter. And, like, Blay Icewood was our king. And then he died, you know, very young. And I saw this happen with Nipsey Hustle. I saw this happen with multiple artists that, like, died before they were able to, like, in my opinion, like, really killed the game. Yeah, Bigel. Correct. Big Hill is another one.

So I want to ask Jada Kiss in front of y'all, and I want you to give you a second to think about it. I want to know your favorite bigie verse. Because I was thinking about this on the way here. I have like 19,000 my favorite Jada kids' verses. So I know this is going to be a tough question for you. Like something that he said. Something that touched your soul. Something that's miserable for you.

It's the song he got with Tracy Lee. Oh, yeah. The rings and things you're thinking about bring him out. It's hard to yell with the beryl in your mouth. I got a new mouth to feed. Do yourself with keys. Y'all pick seeds out your weed. I watch cow with flea.

Pick seas out of our weed. Mother fucking please. It's my block and my rock Fuck that hip hop The one twos And you don't stop Me and my man Lance To Kim and C's in season vans

Or 10 bucks Four pounds of weed plants From Branson Now we lampin Twelve room mansions Get naked off Get money Play his anthem

Don't be getting All the hits Other shit Niggas kick me counterfeit Robbing come naturally And then I'm like fucking rapidly past the Gatth and me. Tom Fives!

They don't lie. B-I-D-G forever. Thank y'all. Thank y'all. Thank you all for coming out. Definitely, definite, definitely. You don't got to go home. You got to get the... And so, I want to ask the same question of fat, Joe.

And by the way, Joe is Sky Rizzi. And I got a discovery. Joe, you're not fat anymore. Did Jack come up here? What are we doing? I spend all my money on promote. What you doing, man? Coach Shepa.

I got my brother Jason Terry in the building, man. Yo, I was going to bring you up, Jason Terry. The Jet makes some noise for the championship. Jason Terry, Dallas, Mattrick. Utah. Utah Jazz assistant coach. So I want to ask. So I want to ask the same question as Joey that thinks we call him crack

because he was in third grade and stood up and somebody looked at the back of his ass. And he wanted to sell that to us. I love you very much. Thank you. You're a great saying. We don't call you crack because of that. Just so you know.

We call you crack because of... What is the question, General? The question is, your favorite big pun verse. Oh. The middle of words. Mine is... I need you to catch. Your harsh realities of life for take the toll,

even Jesus Christ. sake my soul. You ain't a killer still learning how to walk from New York to Cali or my real niggins' cabby. Walk you to death, won't even talk that east of west crap from Ross through left rack. We still, big pun that still ain't a killer.

It's crazy. Rest in peace. That's my favorite big pun song. Love, love, love. Everybody else would just say, get in the middle of little, little. Right? That guy, God was crazy.

He wrote records in his sleep. True story. He wrote records in the... He would nod out. He had that shit where you fall asleep. That's Stiles P. That's the ghost.

That's the ghost, man. He put the beat on, go to sleep, wake up and go on the booth. That's Stiles. Turn on the beat, turn all the lights off, the electricity,

everything. He wake up and he got the whole song. That's the craziest shit ever. I thought pun was the... That's like... Pund and fall asleep. Wake up and be like, yo, give me the book.

Start writing the heart. whole song that he heard in his sleep. And I'll be like, damn, he was beyond talented and gifted. And even though I discovered pun, he taught me so much. That's why I, you know, the whole game

when Big Fun passed because he was so much better than me, they thought it was over for Fat Joe. They counted him out. What? No, everybody. My best friends, my best friends, they didn't know I went to the school of He taught me how to write.

He taught me how to make hits. I got 30 minutes. They go. I got to go get me killed. Yo, listen to everybody. Joe and Jada. Love sports, Joe and Jada. Love, love, love, love, love.

Love, love, love, love. Jaylor, love, love, love you. Yo, Callie, what's up? Joe, Callie, what's up? Teach your son to Sham God. McDonald's All-American. Teach your daughter to Sham God. Shout out McDonald's All-American.

Shout to all the McDonald's All-American. They changed a bunch of lives. And I got to say this, because It's the McDonald's All-American event. And I didn't say this, but I want to say this. As a basketball player, when you realize that you're going to the McDonald's game, that's the first time you realize you're going to the league. Yes, you got a shot.

Is that right? And I remember they used to give me those cards to get chicken McNuggets. When you're making McDonald's over there. I ate that the whole year. So love, thank y'all for pulling up. Thank you. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers.

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