The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Jermaine Dupri on Kris Kross & Da Brat, dating Janet Jackson, Usher’s Confessions & Mariah Carey

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by legendary Atlanta producer and founder of So So Def Recordings, Jermaine Dupri. Jermaine discusses his early days as a dancer in middle school and how dance competitions helped pave the way for him into the music business. Jermaine continues on to discuss how he made his way up in the business and how he discovered Kris Kross, Lil’ Bow Wow, and Da Brat, why he told Left Eye Lopes and TLC to sign with another label, they way he approached working with Usher on his album ‘My Way’ and the the track “Confessions Pt. 2,” working with Mariah Carey on “Always Be My Baby” and “We Belong Together.” Next, Jermaine discusses his past relationship with Janet Jackson, working with L.A. Reid and how Ray Charles and Quincy Jones led him to his vegan lifestyle. Finally, JD discusses the Magic City documentary that he produced and how the soundtrack based off of the documentary came about. Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano return to headline the most decorated boxing card in history, featuring 9 world champions and 21 titles on the line. Streaming LIVE Friday July 11 on NetflixHttps://www.netflix.com/title/82035642 Get you question answered on the showLeave us a voicemail at www.speakpipe.com/1800JOEJADA #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to me. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hippocrite Wednesdays on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The volume. All my mind was that I'm going to make this record with Jay-Z.

That's why all I was thinking about, I'm going to make this record with Jay-Z. I ain't know what the record was going to be, but I'm like, I'm going to make this record with Jay-Z. And long story short, he came in Atlanta, and I went to pick him up. And when I'm driving to the airport to pick him up, I'm listening to can knock the hustle. And when he say deep in the South kicking up top game, I'm like, He's talking about me Who was he talking about? I'm riding

I'm thinking he's talking about me He's saying switching for the lane I'm switching them By the way I'm in a Bentley So as soon as he come out of the airport I say yo I'm a sample this part This gonna be our song

And he's like all right It's Joe Crack the motherfucking dawn It's your boy kiss You know what it is The Joe and Jada show This is a special edition right here You got an historic Legendary Hip Hop Pillard

in the building, with no further ado, ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother Jermaine DePree. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold up. Hold up. Because this ain't a regular show, guys. This is royalty.

This is not even, this, this, this is a fucking pyramid. You know what I'm saying? It's a whole pyramid of Egypt sitting up. I'm telling you the truth. I didn't say one. Like, I couldn't sleep last night. I'm saying, because I was so excited. I mean, we love all our guests,

but this is a different, he's got the blue Louis Leroy Globe. This is royalty, this is Roy U.T. right here. So, you know, J.D., it's an honor to have you on the Joe and Jada show, taking the chance with our little podcast. You know, we're the rookies of the year, most likely

to succeed. But, um, thank you for coming up. That's shit. My brother, you all right now we go. We're going, we're going to give a little you're going to go on a little time capsule for the people that might not know. Because, you know, we're living in a time

where you have knowledge right in your hand, but some people prefer to look up shoes and look up some bullshit than instead of getting some knowledge sometimes. Now, you stopped attending school and middle school to go on tour. Just talk a little bit about what that experience was like for some people that might not know

what going on tour is and for just a young-ass kid stop in middle school to go on tour. What was that even like? I mean, I actually know that's what was happening. It just was going. Like, I was dancing. So, you know, the Fresh Fest was the first time they ever had the Fresh Fest

everywhere, was in Atlanta. And they had Run DMC and all of them. This is the first show was on Atlanta. Shout out to Ricky Walker. He was the person who actually created the Fresh Fest. Fresh Fest is Run DMC, obviously. Houdini. Boys, Houdini, Curtis Blow, Grandmaster Flash.

This was the first rap tour, period. The Golden. It's never been an era better than this, according to me. But, I mean, just my opinion, I always feel like, you know, when people start these debates, I be like, yo, that is it. Those are the pioneers. But, God, you said, you was a dancing. You made it on tour.

Yeah, so they had a, they also had, you know, the dynamic breakers, the New York City breakers. they had all these breaking crews on there as well so it was like dancing and rapping but they needed an opener this was at a time when you know they need an opener you don't get no money you just go out waste time just burn the time off right

it was still like that in 93 yeah that shit ain't change so I'm like cool I ain't tripping I'm like I'm 12 years old so I don't care I'm going on stage this the first time I ever seen this many people in the arena they gave me an opportunity to go out there

and do like, I probably had like three minutes, just me dancing. That's a long time, by the way. Hell yeah. Dancing. You ain't got no routine. You just like, I can't believe they had cameras back there. Like, they got you dancing to some of them shits, like on camera. You know how vital that shit is right now?

Well, BCR take, man. What is he? I've seen you dancing. I've seen you personally. But hip hop. How would you get hip hop in Atlanta? Because he in New York. It was only, it was only, not even.

It was, it was Red Alert, once a week and Mr. Magic. And then Awesome, too, overnight. How do you get the new shit? How do you get the new music, the new hip-hop that was coming down? How did it get to the ATL? Well, it wasn't there when I started.

This was pre-allet. You know what I mean? So how you dancing? Like, how you know... Breaking was everywhere. Yeah, breaking was everywhere. You're watching Breaking. You're watching, you know... Beast Street. Beastreet in these movies. But I was doing talent shows.

You know what I mean? So I started doing talent shows I was doing Michael Jackson in the talent shows. So Michael Jackson routine be like two minutes. You could do it two minute Michael Jackson routine. I start doing Michael Jackson and then I start paying attention to hip hop and I seeing like, oh, I can add this, I can add this.

I just start learning things. But I still weren't like great. I just was good because I was 12, right? You know, little kids, they get away with them. Yeah, you get a little more of a pass here. Yeah, yeah. He's like a clown at the circus. You know what I mean? Like, go ahead and do what you got to do. So I was winning talent shows and that's what happens.

So I started winning all these little talent shows around my, you know, around Atlanta or I come in second place or whatever it is. And so they was like, you know, it was like, you know, let them go out there and do what you got to do. So I went up on the stage and I did my perfect little time. I got off. I went tripping, you know what I made them hit their time. And they was like, you know what?

We need to keep somebody to do this. And I'm like, you know what I mean? And I wasn't even paying attention to everything that came with it because I didn't. I didn't know nothing about me getting out of school and all this. I tried to do the right way. But this was so early in life. Atlanta had never had an artist that would go on tour at 12 years old. So we didn't even have a school system thing that was set up where they could take my grades.

And while I was on the road and count them as credits. I mean, I did all the work. And I had a tutor. And we tried to do it. But when I came back, they was like, we can't accept this. You got to do that grade again. I'm like, oh, nah. No.

Oh, great. And after that, I had already been to 50 cities at 12. So I was like, oh, no, I'm done. I'm done. I got to figure this out. I got to figure it out. So then the second year, I wasn't on a Fresh Fest for three years, 84, 85, and 86.

And then 86 is when I started rapping. I added a rapping to it. And by then, it was a guy in Atlanta named Shadi, who was actually from the Bronx, who was actually, he came to Atlanta. He started bringing. He got mad every time they mentioned the Bronx on this. he might be a slight

might be a slight hand. Just everything's for the Bronx. You fucking want me to do. I want the stewards from the Bronx if you ask you. What you want me to do? Yeah. Chad He was from the Bronx. Yes. Yeah, so he, you know, so, so Shadi came, he started, you know, he introduced me to what

Zulu Nation was, all of this, you know, hip-hop, right? But I, I couldn't rap, but he's taught me how to, like, write my rap. So he wrote my first rap when I was on the, um, on the freshness. and I started doing the rap and performing, you know, performing a rap. And then that's when, you know, the rest of the guys, Houdini and all of them, they start seeing that I was more into that than dancing.

So then Jam Master J taught me how to DJ, like real, like really hands-on. You heard that? Yeah. And then Grand Master D starts showing me tricks. And I just started learning from the best. You know, Jam Master J, man, he taught me a lot, you know, And when I was coming up, man, you know, I had a little flow Joe. I ain't never wanted to lead the Bronx.

And he kept talking to me, yo, you ever been to Detroit? You ever been in Chicago? You ever been, like he was trying to turn. You need to get out there, Joe, so you only want to be in the Bronx. And so rest of peace, Jam, Master Jay. Yeah. So I want to get back to this one thing. When hip hop came to Atlanta, how did it get to Atlanta?

Great. The migration of a lot of. Primos from Texas, and Primo said his cousins used to drive over there with tapes of Mr. Magic and Red Alert. Yeah. I'm just trying to establish. Yeah, basically it was like the migration of a lot of New Yorkers start coming to Atlanta. Like I said, Shadi is from New York. So it seemed like more and more New Yorker start coming to Atlanta.

And then you start seeing like little parties and these pop up that was like, oh, this is hip-hop. But then it was also like the artist was coming. Right. The artists were coming. More and more artists was coming to Atlanta. had a dance show in Atlanta that was only our local dance show, right? And it just, you know, how it was coming in and I, we still only had a radio station, which was V-103, they only played rap.

Jack the rap, that's the first time I ever been in any shit like that. That's what I'm in Atlanta. Yeah. So we have, you know, once the station, they only play hip-hop on Friday night for an hour. Yeah, that's how I go. So on that Friday night and that hour, I was right there like this. Kids don't understand. They got the shit on their phone, like water.

You used to have to stay up. that to be on point. Bro. I never forget. Callet dropped wow, wow, wow, wow. On the Thursday. Friday, I was like in Paris somewhere at the show and they threw that shit on

and the whole crowd was like, wow, wow, wow. I was like, you know, it makes you think about what you only heard hip hop on Friday and Saturday. I was like, shit, this shit across the world in one day. But at that time, we have to look for it. Yeah. Right?

The tissue and the tape over the cassette. Yeah. And all we should dance. You know, me, I grew up in the Bronx. And so, you know, my guys, man, you know, my guys, we had, like, a public phone in front of the building. And they used to break the public phone and use the electricity to put the boombox. So the bigger guys, shout out to AJ, GP, Craig Orest in peace, my brother. They used to put the boombox out.

And then they played an awesome two. That was at 4 in the morning and shit like that. So I would be a kid out the window listening to the shit overnight. Like they would play whole other kind of music, underground music, that they wouldn't play with Red Alert. So they was like, by beat don't stretch before. Yes, they were. Yes, they were. And so, see, I, so in 86, I met Chad Elliott.

Chad Elliott was part of Charles Stettler crew. Shout out to Chad. When the Fat Boys won. that contest and crush grew Chad came in second place yep yeah he came in second place

right so they put so Charles Stettler was like we need to put this kid on the tour if y'all got Jermaine on the tour

right so then they worked out for Chad to get on the tour as well so then me and Chad met and we you know what I mean we hit it off and then we start hanging the out

and then I moved to Brooklyn with him and stayed at his house on Eastern Parkway and that's fine that's when I start like becoming a

You caught the sponge. You know, I was a kid, I never forget. I was a kid and my aunt, my grandmother, she lived in Brooklyn on the East New York and Summit. She had a little house, but I remember the kids. I used to spend all summers in Brooklyn, and the kids was like, yo, come, and we went to the projects and they had a jam,

and they played this record. And I guess I grew up, I just didn't know, right? but they played this record where I actually walked up to the DJ and it was SOS band it was baby we can do it take your time to it and I was just like that's my right that shit

must have hit every endorphin like I was like a kid but I was like yo what the fuck is this like this shit is crazy I felt like it was only a Brooklyn thing right but you in Brooklyn you caught

everything you was here you called And I learned, like, what was the difference between where I, you know, in Atlanta and New York immediately. Because they was bricking me with everything I had on. You know what I mean? They was telling me I was looking like a country bum. You know, niggas in East New York was saying whatever. Oh, no, they don't care. And I was going to connect.

The problem. Same way. They don't give a fuck. They talk about your mom's walking in the building. That's crazy. I got chased by the septicons and all that. So you was outside outside. He was fast, too.

you had to get away from nothing. Yeah. At what point, it goes down because me personally, right? This is something I'm going to go to my deathbed with. 20-some years ago, I moved to Miami, right? And every time I go to ATL, I argue with myself, did I make the right thing? Should I have moved to the ATL?

I feel so at home in the ATL. They just got a lot of restaurants You know, we love the restaurants It's just, you know, I love black people I love the entrepreneurialism I love that they all Help each other The vibe is great

You know, the weather's everything Just every time I go to ATO I argue with myself Like I just be like damn I was supposed to be here Huh? It's hard for you I keep extending my stay

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What's the news, Nick? news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we, how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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You were still young. At 17, you discovered Chris Crows. Yeah. Did you think it was going to work? What was you rolling the dice? Or how would, what was you going through at that? I mean, well, Chris Crows actually was like the works of me getting to that spot. So I had a group prior that was called Silk Times Leather.

That was these two girls. It was called what? Silk Times Leather. Silk Times Leather. Silk times leather. Silk times leather. Yeah. They actually were the.

girlfriends of Houdini that I met on tour. Oh, shit. Right. Wow. So I met them when we was on tour, and they was like, we're from Atlanta. And I'm like, from Atlanta. So I was young and I'm like, she, y'all can come pick me up. You know what I mean?

Like, whatever, whatever. Y'all can come drive around. I'm like, oh, I got some girls that I can hang out with now in Atlanta. You know, that's what I'm thinking in my mind. And then I think Herbie had just put out salt and pepper. So this was like girls that was paying attention to this. and some kind of way we start having a conversation and I never produced a record in my life

and the girls was like, you know, we want to do what's something pepper doing. And I'm like, you should let me produce you. I never did it. I don't know why I even said it, but I just was paying attention to what Herbie was doing and it seemed interesting. So I started really paying attention to what he was doing. I'm like, oh, he's writing the raps, he's making the beats, all of this. And I'm like, I could do it.

So I started trying to do it. and I did it good enough where I got them a deal. They got signed a Geffen Records. Right? So they actually was the first rap group in Atlanta to have a real major record deal. Wow. Wow. You pulled that off.

And then you go into criss-cross. Yeah, so Chris-class. What happened with them, though, and then? No. So we didn't really have a lot of success, but we had enough success where I got, you know, I got $15,000 so I could get some real equipment. You open the door. I ain't have a real equipment.

So when I got my real equipment, that's when I showed. start making better beats and start getting more and more into it. Then one day me and the DJ is a female named Dolomix, we went to Green Brown Mall. And they had an article in Jet Magazine about the female rappers at that particular point in time. And one of the Chris's sons saw Dolomix and was like, I know that girl. I just read about her.

Right. But I seen the kids and they was walking around the mall and people was paying attention to And I'm like, what's wrong with me? I'm like, why don't, I don't know these niggas. I'm thinking they're like, you know, they must be on a Disney channel or something. I'm like, why is people acting like this? So I keep watching, move around, moving around. They're going in foot locker.

They're going to foot action. They're doing all the rap shit. I'm like, who is this? And girls is giving them free cookies at the cookie company. I'm telling you, I'm walking around watching them. It was lit before lit. I'm in there. So I'm like, finally walk up to them.

I'm like, yo, who are y'all? And I was like, what do y'all do? They're like, we don't do nothing. I'm like, why y'all give y'all shit? No, I listen to them all. They're like, because we fresh. And I'm like, oh, wait, what? I'm like, do y'all rap?

And they was like, rap? They said that to me, like, what is that? Yeah. Who went rap? That's how they said it to me. And I'm like, and my mind just start going crazy. Like, if these niggas rap, based on what they got going on. It's over with it.

Right. So then I got their number. And luckily their mom vouched because she's like, he's somebody because I know that girl that's with him. Right? She didn't, she hadn't put it all together, but she, you know what I'm saying? She had one of the New Jack City moments with dudes like, yo, I know that dude, right? So that's what she was doing. She was like, I know him.

So I got the number and I started calling him like, yo, y'all come over my house. We're going to start making music. They was like, come over your house. You know what I'm saying? So they was really on some, you know, little hood boys that was like, we ain't going. over this nigga house like why are we going over his house so I had to get I had to convince them so I had to go pick

them up from school every day and like become their homie like and let them see like I'm really fucking with y'all like you know what I mean so we start kicking it and I start like driving watching them in the back seat and I play records and I play a record like Ice Cube

or something was crazy at the time and they was back there rapping the lyrics like they wrote them they know this shit they ain't ever seen the lyrics before I didn't know it they like rapping it like they really rapping it and I'm thinking like damn if I write a song for them and it sound good like they could do ice cube and they learn it like this they got just got to work right so I just started trying to figure out how that was going to happen I you know I wrote so many songs that they hated and I never got that reaction I just had to keep going keep going keep going

keep going um and then I wrote this song called little boys in the hood and they liked it because of this concept like I finally got to where they wanted, okay, now you're talking about shit we want to talk about. I was trying to do like kiddie shit at first. And I was like, and they start telling me about how they, you know, in their school, kids 12 years old, walking around with their socks and their socks was doubled up

because they had cracking them, you know what I mean? So I started hearing all these stories about these little kids in the hood. So I'm like, you know what? When they be doing the news, they don't never talk about what the kids have to go through and what they see, right? So I started trying to write about that based on what I was hearing them say. And from the deal that I had with Silk Times Leather,

I had met this engineer named Joe the butcher who actually owned Roughhouse Records in Philly. Rough house. Right? So that's the only person I knew in the music industry that I could call and be like, I got a project, right? So I did the little boys in the hood, and I sent it to Joe, and he was like, yeah, I want to sign him.

And I'm like, oh, shit, you know what I mean? I got it, right? So he gave us a development deal. It wasn't a real record deal. was a development deal to see if we can make some better records. And like the night before we had to go to Philly to do, like, record these songs, I wrote jump. I knew it when I, like, in the first 29, 30 seconds. Yeah.

Yeah, that's how they pull this off. The second you hear, when you hear that shit, you just like, yo, this shit, is this shit jumping. Whose idea was it for them to wear the clothes backwards? Mine, because, like, left I was living at my house at the time. This is what I want to talk about. This is what I want to talk. Like, left, I had came to my house as a rapper from Philly. She was from Philly originally.

Yeah, she's from Philly. And she met this guy named Ian Burke. And Ian was, like, the only guy in Atlanta that I knew that was, like, moving around. He was like an A&R manager slash. He was everything, right? And if you knew Ian, Ian, Ian connects you to somebody else. So then Ian called me one day. He was like, yo, I met this girl from Philly.

She rap. She's a young girl. I'm going to bring her to your house. He brought her to my house. I liked the way she rap. But I was trying to do the criss-cross thing. But I was like, yo, I'm going to fuck with you when I get through with this. I ain't have no deal.

But I had all these people believing that I was going to do it. So left I was staying at my house. Without my mom even knowing, left I was like living in my closet because she didn't really have no place to stay. So she was staying over there. And one of the songs I did for Criscross, I sent. Michael Jackson and Paul McCart, the girl is mine, right? And I was thinking like, I could make a song about y'all arguing about Lisa and then Lisa was going to rap about shit, right?

And that idea I had, but it never came to life. I kept trying to get it. I couldn't, you know what I mean? But I never couldn't figure it out. And my writing was terrible at that time. Question I have for you. Who's an artist that you slept on and became a big boy or big girl in the game? that you wasn't ready or things wasn't right.

They tried, like, you know, Eminem gave me his demo six times. And, you know, we ain't never seen no white boy pop off like that. So I guess I was sleeping. You know, after he blew up, I went to dinner with him. He was like, you know, I gave you my demo six times. And I was like, what? And he told me every way he gave it to me. Who's an artist that you could have signed?

And you was like, damn, or you wish you could have signed? Well, I mean, I tried to sign ludicrous, but I had a office full of employees, right? And at this point in time, I was feeling like my office felt like I was controlling everything. So I went there one day and tried to have an A&R meeting. And I asked them about ludicrous, and they all said no. And I tried to go with what my office was saying. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

I'm thinking, this is what you're supposed to do. This is you got to let the people in the office. office work. They was like, nah, JD don't sign him. And I'm like, well, you know what?

They probably slept on him because he started in the radio. No, but I had already, I did something for Madden. So the first Madden game with music, I did it,

right? And they called me, and they was asking me, they asked me, silence of flexing with the silence on. They asked me for somebody to rap on it that was animated,

right? And I'm like, well, I'm not animated like this. But Chris was, doing these radio things, right? And I heard him. I kept hearing him do these radio commercials.

He was really, really animated, right? And I say, Chris, come through this little mad thing I'm doing for the video game. And that was the first time me and Chris worked together. But he wanted me to sign him, and I wanted to sign him. You know what's crazy? There's this guy who does commercials, but he don't rap. You don't be hearing him. He'd be like, 1-800.

You crash your call. Top dog. Y'all love this guy, man. I don't have no clue of who he is. Every time I hear it's commercial, I turn it up. Like, I be hearing about, yo, you crashed your dog. Your girl left you. Your leg is sideways.

Yeah. Top 1 800 to get you. I be like, yo, this dude is crazy. So I know what you're saying. Yeah. Saludicrous, right? At what point it turned from hip-hop to R&B? I go to the breakfast.

Right after, no, right after, right after, right after the explosion of Chris crush, right? I was just like... Well, we got the brat. We got Chris Cross. We got Bow Wow. We got Usher. We got Mariah.

We got bone crusher. We got... Listen, so after Chris Cross, I didn't want to be labeled as a one box producer, right? So I was like, I got to do an R&B project after Chris Cross success. I ain't know if it was going to work. It's the first time I ever did it. But I just knew that that's what I wanted to do. I didn't want to be put in a box.

So Escape Project was the first album R&B record that I had ever written or produced or anything. And Ian brought them girls to my house and they sung for me. Party on down to the S-K. Yeah, you sound like a rap song. Just kick.

Yo, bro. You know, I used to be scared to fly. So I used to drive everywhere to Miami to everywhere. And so I got a certain kind of like respect for certain groups because, you know, it get hard on that 9-5 around South Carolina when you start seeing Pedro and shit. They'd be like, Pedro.

And you got to, that escape, man, they got me through a lot of drives. That escape was different. So you, so Escape, you wrote all that shit. Yeah. So I'm saying I was taking still from hip-hop, like kick off your shoes and relaxation feet. That was running the MC line.

I just was doing what I thought. You ever wrote, you ever wrote an R&B song? No. I never wrote an R&B song. I never, like, I never had, I was sure that I could. He just broke it down. I can do it. Sometimes Beyonce has some witty lyrics where I'd be like,

yo, Jay must have been right in that studio and gave her a bar. Like, I hear it all the time in her music where I'm just like, she's talking that shit. I said, oh, Hove must have been in that studio, gave her a bar. You know, it's just, you know, but it's something I always wanted to, do because I'm a lover not a fighter bee. Yeah. I mean, like I said, if you take it, if you just listen to it, it's the same thing ultimately. You just have to figure out the melody. But other than the melody, writing the

song is pretty much the same. You know, LaFace goes down to the ATL, right? They're not from there, right? Like baby faces wear from Indiana. And, but they set up shop. Right? I fell in love with ATL. But they let it. everybody work with the artist they signed. You know, go to you, go to Rico Wade. Yeah. Go to Dallas Austin. Right.

And so what are some of the songs you wrote for TLC, another artist that wasn't actually your artist? Well, TLC was my group first before they even signed in the face. Another one. Like, you know, you got to remember, left I was at my house, right? So, Ian brought Tian brought Tian to my house. And then they met at my house. And they was called Second Nature before they was called TLC.

And I would have now, this is what I do regret. I regret my mind not moving fast enough because if I could have had TLC and crisscross at the same time. But I was too young to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was learning the game. I know. And it was God's timing, too, to believe it or not.

It was like it wasn't for you like that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was God's time. I had so much energy for the guys. I wasn't giving the girls a lot of energy. And they went ahead, had that conversation with Pebbles. And they was like, you know, they had a meeting.

So if you see the TLC movie on VH1, when left I make this phone call, she called me in that movie. I saw that. Yeah, they cut me out, but they, you know. No, no, no, no. But I saw that movie. Yeah, she called me to be like, Jady, they want to sign us, what you want to do. and when she said that, I could have been like, nah, I got y'all, let's do this.

But I started thinking like a producer. I started thinking like, shit, if they get signed, I could do a bunch of songs on their album, right? Instead of just trying to hold them and be, like, let them sign on my label. So I was like, go ahead, do the deal. So their first album, I did a song called I could do bad by myself. On the second album is when I did more and more work with TLC than I ever did.

But really, really a lot of that, me working with the face came from us. That's the second album. The My Way album, I did the whole album. The whole album, basically. Another one. And so Usher was up here. So I remember when he was all around New York as a kid.

They snuck him in the clubs, everything. They said, I forget, what was out? Chodice. But they also had, like, hip-hop, I think, was it Black Rob's War or is it too? That was too early. They would see shit. Not because I'm trying to tell you. you, there's only very few records like

Black Rob's Woe or Ballin by Jim Jones. There was very few records when I was in the club that just everybody lost their mind. And I remember meeting Usher for the first time as a kid in the club here. And they had something out there that was stupid.

And I remember usher there. And I was like, damn. But any case. This was party in bullshit days back there. Oof. This was been there. He's going back. Before you.

talking about. I know, I know, I'm just like, I remember Usher as a kid out here in New York and seeing them all over. Yeah,

but this guy, so the second album, so you sit down with Usher and you say, y'all, I'm going to make a classic. No,

no, I don't say that. What you said? I don't know what's going to happen. You're going to make some music. I actually don't know what's going to happen. I just know that,

you know, I think they tried to make an album with Dallas. they tried to make an album with Puff, and the album that they wanted for his second record, it didn't work. So they actually tell me that they was on the verge of dropping him if it didn't work with me, right?

I ain't know this, though. I start hearing this after the fact. So, you know, but there's like, you know, we want you to do what you did with Criscross with us. We want you to take him to your house. You know what I mean? Make him your artists. And I was like, all right, I never did this before with the R&B.

I never produced nobody male R&B. So I don't know what. the song's going to sound like I did escape but I ain't never do it with a male artist so I ain't know what the songs is going to sound like so he came we start kicking I start talking and I start figuring out okay he he he

he just like crish cross almost like he pick up instantly if he love it he really get it you know what I'm saying so I'm like okay if I write songs for him that he love he's going to sing it he's going to sing it with his all right but I still was writing songs like

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Right, you skipping the brat. I wouldn't have it. I'm not saying we got the brat. We got too much to talk about. I want to go and she quits. You want to go and go. Go ahead. We hear about the brat out there.

Go ahead with the monica. Let me go on. I'm just saying Monica was a little girl with a big voice. Yeah. And she became a superstar just like that. Did you know? Like when you heard of- She was Dallas artist.

I know. Yeah. Yeah. I was breaking a lot of bread down there. I knew. I knew she was hot, though. I knew she had it. And she was like, she was a ghetto girl that Dallas was trying to take into the Whitney Houston space.

And she had the voice to go into that space. Not. I don't know anybody take it wrong. I'm saying she's with a woman. No, no, no. No, no. She had the voice to go there. There's no question about that.

I never thought I would work with her either. I didn't have no idea I ever worked with Monica. What joints you did for Monica? I did the first night. That was the first song I ever did with her. The first night? Yeah. Yo, let me tell you something.

Boy, this ATL royalty is that, let's go to the brat. I love the brat. That's my sister. We're not, let's go to the brat. Let's go to the brat. First female to sell a million records. Yeah, yeah. So the brat situation

How do you find the brat from Chicago? Chicago to the AIL. Yeah, yeah. So Brat met Chris Cross when they was on their second tour. Yeah, they was on another tour. They went on a tour of Michael Jackson. They was on another tour. Right?

Paa, bah, right? So they went on a tour and they had like, what's the name? Ed Lover and from all TV reps. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Drenver was like the host of the tour. tool and they had called people up on the stage and rap as an intermission between you know uh i think mc light and criss cross right because they had put emc light at the opening for them um and bratt shout out to mc light assistant my mom's just passed the way i love you light love you living legend brack came on the stage and rap and i wasn't there and they called me right

after light skin because i remember like yesterday he called me like yo it's female rapper she went crazy in chicago and i'm like i don't care about no female rapper. Like, don't nobody like female rappers. Just what I'm saying.

Like, this wasn't no female rappers popping off besides salt and pepper. Like, and in, like,

street fashion of of us driving around, we want to listen those female rappers in our cars. Like, that just wasn't what happened.

So I just, like, nah. And I thought, like, me messing with a female rapper was going

to be the first time that my little success story was going to go wrong. Because I was like, I just, you know, wrong.

Yeah, I just, did criss-cross, I did escape. And I was, you know what I'm saying? I was moving. And I was just like, nah, female rap, I can't do it. So, but he kept pushing me. And I was like, I tell her to come to Atlanta.

She came to Atlanta, and she told me to come to the hotel and meet her. I went to the hotel and, like, to meet her, like, have a conversation with it. And I'm like, I'm going to take you to my house because this is what my studio was. So I'm driving her from downtown Atlanta to college park. And I stop and get gas. And I stop and get gas. going to gas station. I come back.

She put a tape in the car while I was inside the gas station place. Pan. I came back, turned the car on, and the tape started going. And I'm like, what the fuck is? Who was this rapping? And it was her. And I was like, wait, who was this rapping? And the way

she was rapping on the tape, I was like, oh shit. She was not playing. Nah, she wasn't playing. She was really rapping. She was coming for it. This wasn't the type of rap. I thought this was. Like, she was really rapping, like really Chicago style, like, Twister and all of that, like, that type of shit. And I'm like, that's you? And she was like, yeah.

Also, you was producing, like, West Coast sounding beats for the brat. Yeah, but I hadn't started. He didn't know what he was about the next to him. Yeah, I didn't know what I was going to be. But he did it, though. Yeah, I didn't know what I was going to do. So I took it to my house. I'm like, I like you.

I'm going to sign you. And honestly, Brat project was like the hardest project for me because I couldn't, I couldn't find that thing yet. I couldn't find it. make a song and I play it for people and it was like yeah whatever whatever and then I just stopped paying attention to who she was like she'd be outside my house and like it was cold so we'd we like take all the swim like all the water out of the swimming pool and she'd go down in the swim pool and smoke weed because she couldn't smoke in my house and she's down in the pool

smoking and I started realizing like oh she like she a female like like a little snoop dog like she's smoke red, like chain smoking before anybody like, really, by herself. And I'm like, we should put this in the music. And I just start seeing like, this was what was happening. It's, you know, and I mean, I'm influenced by what's

going on the hip-hop. So it ain't, you know what I mean? And I saw, you know, I'm listening to Dre. I'm listening to what's going on. And I'm listening to Snoop. Snoop is doing this thing. And it was kind of like, it wasn't, like, because the first song we came out with wasn't funk.

It was more or less, like, it was the Isley brothers. I just flipped sleeping in my, I mean, between the sheets. But what I did was I started realizing that if you play the sample over, it gave you a different texture to the music. So when you start playing the music over, that's when people started thinking it was like West Coast music. But that wasn't, it wasn't West Coast, it was just in between the sheets, right? Because if we had, I remember we had in between the sheets,

and then Biggian them had Big Papa, right? and Big used to come to me all the time and be like, man, what did you do to your beat? That's different than my beat. And he just had a sample. I had more, you know what I mean? I almost had like more... Just playing over that shit.

I could take the bass. I could do whatever I wanted to do because we played it over. Right? And I think that's where people start. You know, we ran with it because the song was called Funkify, but it wasn't, it was an Isley Brothers record.

That's it. Was so funked five. Yeah. And that's the first time I started rapping on as far as people first time hearing me. And that's because I was in there writing the raps and I was in there writing and I was just playing around. Like, I plan around.

I'm like, I'm going. I'm going like, I'm going to say this and you say this. And it started going to go on and it was like, back and forth, back and forth. And everybody was around. It was like, y'all should do that. And I'm like, no, I don't want to rap. Right? I'm still trying to stick to just, I'm a producer.

I'm going. I'm doing good. I'm not going to start doing this. We're not going to make this up. Right. That's around the time they, you know, Shug Night was like, you weren't producers in your video, rapping. No, no, this was before that.

It was crazy. He sat forwarding too much, right? This was before that. So, yeah, so we get to the Funkify. Funkify come out. I was there. And this Brat record go crazy. Funkfifide record go crazy.

Too crazy. And Brat album, she became the first female solo artist to have a platinum album. That was crazy, man. Shout out to the Brat, her wife. Y'all co-wrote that? Yeah, yeah. Because that's when I saw, you know what I mean? I started, I was writing, but then I started remembering, like, you rap.

I already knew what you, you know what you. You know what I'm saying? So we just start figuring out our back and forth motion, right? And I write one part and then she'll grab it and understand where I'm going and then she'll just take it from. You know, Tip told me Tiny Road Scrubs. Yeah. The scrub is a her, yeah, her and candy. He said he was on the passenger's side.

No, I'm sure. I'm sure. That's crazy. Gang, kiss, gag. I know I'm jumping all. We told me. You know, I got some...

We're having a beautiful conversation. This is very knowledge. I'm with you, brother. I'm with you. So then, like, I'm running around now with brat, and I'm rapping. Funkify is big, so I'm performing with her everywhere. But we go, right? And I'm like, I still don't want to rap.

But I'm writing more raps now because I'm hearing myself on the radio. And I'm rapping. I'm starting rap. And then all my friends, like, Jada, you should make, yo, you should make an album. And I'm like, no, I don't want to make no album. I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. But I start making, like, fake songs in the studio. Like, I'd be writing a song, and I'm thinking I'm going to give to somebody else,

but I damn near finished the song. And my friends would start listening to it in the car. They're like, yo, you should make this a real song. One thing led to the next to the next to the decks, and then I did my first album life in 1472. You want to know what's crazy is. There's something going on down the other stuff. side of town. You got the goody bomb?

Not yet. Not yet. You know what? I'm going to let you control. You ask questions, man. Are you not listening to this, man? Not yet. He's speeding ahead of time. So they're not ringing off yet? Not, not yet. This all like, you know. How do I know this and you owe it in me?

Yeah, it's, it seemed like that. By a couple of candy. It seems like that, but it wasn't like that. It's a argument about that. that now, like, people don't understand. Crish Cross came out before Outcast. Facts. I know that.

I didn't know that Goody Mob and Rico Wade and the family he wasn't cooking up. But that's what I'm saying. You got to think about it. Because he is New York? Crish Cross came out before Outcast. So you got to think about where the stretch was, right? It's like, this Chris Cross and Outcast.

So Outcast came, I mean, Goody Mob came out after Outcast, after Outcast success. You ain't know that? You ain't know that? No, no. No, no. I always thought the Goody Mob. That's why we learn. I always start the goody.

People think I'm signing a big pun. You understand? There is, people. I'm telling you, they ask me. I'm thinking GoodyMawb birthed outcast. No, no one. Outcast came out first. That was first.

Yeah, Outcast came out first, then Goody Mobb. Wow. Yeah. Oh, that's amazing. But that's after. Gay, good timetable. He was talking to you. He was talking to you got a more.

Yes, I, you know, so. So we went into the space of me. start rapping. And me and Bratt start doing like going back and forth doing things this and the third

and we did the sleeping in my bed remix, right? That shit was monster. And you did the sleeping in my bed remix. This was like the first

song that New York had really ever really, really embraced that I did. Now you got to think from this whole time when I was staying here in New York I had

six times left and I took them to see red I took the record to Red Alert and Chuck Chillout and Chuck Chill out And Chuck Chilli was like, nah,

nah, the same. I can't play. Take that country shit back. Chuck's still like that. Oh, yeah. So,

so, he ain't changed. I always had this thing where I kept trying to get my records played in New York. Chuck be cursing to do you. Got on the radio 2025.

Chuck still be doing that? Yes. I listen to a many week on BLS. Yeah, I like that. He's still cursing dudes out. I like that.

He ain't never changed. Yeah. But by the way, that made me want, that just made my, me just like, I got to get a record in New York. Like,

I got to get a record in New York. So I just kept, I wasn't thinking about sleeping in my bed being that record, but I always wanted a record that when I got to New York, I turned on Hot 97, I hear my music, right? So sleeping in my bed became like one of the hottest records in New York. Flex was planning at the tunnel. It was an R&B record. They weren't playing on R&B at the tunnel, right?

He was playing this. He was like, J.D., you got to come through a party at the tunnel. Sleeping in my bed is going crazy. Right? So sleeping in my bed going crazy. And then we had the photo shoot, the great. great day in Harlem. I was there.

With all the rappers out there. All the y'all was out there, right? I got you looking like a baby on a fucking picture. That's in my store right now when the Bronx. You're looking like a baby out there. Yeah. So we come to New York and go to Harlem and do this. And then that's when I met Hove.

Right. And on my way to the shoot, I'm listening to Clute tape. And Hove took the sleeping in my bed beat. And he took my cadence of y'all want to dance. I'm going to make you dance. He took all of that. and did a freestyle. So then I'm in the car like, oh, this nigga knows me.

Yeah, he can fuck with you. I'm like, he really knows me. He doesn't pay attention to my whole shit. So I wasn't thinking like when I seen him, I'm going to say, let's make a record. But somewhere in my mind, that's what happened, right? So when I seen him out there, I'm like, you heard you just do my whole little flow on that glue tape. You need to come to Atlanta.

We make a record. And he's like, all right, he gave me his number. So I went back home. All my mind was that I'm going to make this record with Jay. Jay Z. That's why all I was thinking about, I'm going to make this record with Jay Z. I ain't know what the record was going to be,

but I'm like, I'm going to make this record with Jay Z. And long story short, he came in Atlanta, and I went to pick them up. And when I'm driving to the airport to pick him up, I'm listening to him and knock the hustle.

And when he say deep in the South, kicking up top game, I'm like, he's talking about me. Who was he talking about? I'm riding. I'm thinking he's talking about me. He's saying switching for him. I'm switching.

I'm switching. By the way, I'm in a Bentley. Oh, you're kicked up by then. Yeah, I'm in the Continental Tea, by the way, not just a Bentley. Continental Tea! You know what I mean? I'm in the Continental Tea. Go on to the airport to pick him up.

Now, you're on a super broke. And I'm all out the window. I'm driving like this. I'm doing everything he's saying in there. Switching four lanes, screaming through the Sunroof Money and the thing. I'm like, this is me. I'm definitely telling you. That's all I'm saying.

He's talking about me. So as soon as he come out of the airport, I say, yo, I'm a sample this part. this is going to be our song. And he's like, all right, and he's thinking about what I was saying. And then all the way down the street to my house, down Old National to my house, he just got quiet.

And I guess he zoned in on his verse. Started writing his voice. He didn't even hit a beat. I ain't played no beat for him. I had an idea. When we got to my house, I hit the beat. And I said, this is going to wrap over.

He's like, all, let's go. I'm ready. And I was like, what? Yeah, that's crazy. How did this work? And I thought the shit was going to be trashed. Jada would have moved into your house. Jada take his time.

He'd have moved into your house for a month before he did get you that verse. You crazy. Jada take his time. There you go cap it. Now I'm capping. I didn't flew to Atlanta for other shit and went in studio and gave him verses. Is that in fact or not? Yes, ladies and gentlemen.

I got to fuck with the guard. But my thing is, he's one that can catch me. Come over. Kissing him. Money. Lay this for me. this for the brat. Money ain't the thing.

It's one of the ones. Up here, it felt like that was the emergence of down south and New York. Like, like... It was. You know, it felt like that was the shit. It was.

And y'all was talking that shit. Legendary. Great. You know. Whose idea was the video and all that? The video was crazy. Everything about that. It was me, hove, and free.

Shout out to Free May. And, you know, Yeah, we was just like, we was trying to just figure out how to do the dumbest shit we could possibly do at that particular point in time. You know what I mean? And we were supposed to have a horse race where we both was riding a horse. But both was like, I ain't riding no horse. And I'm like, should, I'm going to ride the horse. You can put your girl on the horse our racer.

And the way we started talking to each other, that's how the video was. Like, all right, it was better 100,000, nigger, let's go. Right? So then everything was just like, let's, let's do it. Let's go over top. So, yeah. We reckon portions and everything at the video shoot, real life. Yeah?

Yeah. So y'all was just dumbing out. So at what point do you hear Outcast? Well, Outcast is out at this point. Outcast is out. Like, Outcast came out. Outcast was out. Like I said, Outcast came out right after CrishCrust.

So they actually was like Brat, Outcast, And they in that little era, all of that came out around the same time, like 94. Crisscross came out in 92. So Outcast, I think, like, they came out, and that's when they won the award at the Source Awards in 94. I was there.

Yeah. I was there. That was that night. I was there, brother. I was sitting right behind Outcast, right in front of Outkaz was the 69 boys. Nause was sitting right in front of me. You really remember.

Oh, I'm at the... I'm strapped in the fucking Source Awards. Like, I mean, I can't keep it real with you. I got the animals with me. I'm up in there, you know what I'm saying? So I saw where Outcast won that award and they just got up. And I wasn't, I was up on Outcast, but I didn't think they were the kings. Right?

So I knew they was nice. I knew they was reping that ATL. But I ain't, when they won, who they won against Wu-Tang? They won against some serious people up there. That was a new artist award, though, right? See, yeah, but it was around the same time. But when they're on, I remember them getting up. They did like a little one, two step.

They went, because they didn't think they were going to win in New York. So when they won, that was a major, that was like Biggie on stage going, Brooklyn, we did it. We made it. Right? It's like when Outcast won, if you wasn't there, you were in the ATL you seen when they won that on TV? I was there. Oh, you was there? So what that must have been like in the whole entire South,

or they, like, the South got something to say? I mean, for me, I didn't feel it like that because I had already said what I had to say. I had already been saying what the South got to say, right? But this was more or less like, you know, like what niggas don't understand, I usher in young niggas and rap. When I brought Crish Cross in the game,

it was no young people rapping. Young people didn't even want to rap, right? It was all old niggas. So old niggas would never give young niggas no credit The criss-cross came out They first album They sold 8 million records

So they don't ever be like Really like talking about this Like they want to give all Chris-cross credit to somebody else They sold 8 million records At 12 years old That's a lot of records They sold 4 million jump

Well on that wall You know his studio He got a war with nothing But platinum diamonds shit I call it a studio. I'll call it a... A sound art exhibit. You walk up in there and you know you step in this shit.

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He said, he got it. But it's a lot of millions. See, I mean, it was one time it was at like 400, 500 million. But that was like 10 years ago. Now that we got this streaming shit, I know it's way more than that. Professions. Before I even get to Mariah, how, what was you and the staff? Shout out to B. Cox.

Shout out to everybody. what was, what kind of zone? What did y'all set out to do? Because I, if y'all just say, you know, we're about to cook up some shit and go diamond and take over the whole, every piece of the world, you accomplished that to the T. Well, I don't think that's what y'all did.

No, not. Well, I mean, you got, so we had 8701 first before confession, right? Shout out there. And, um, definitely. Yeah, so, so 8701, we wrote, you got it bad. Yeah. Yeah. So you got it bad. The success of you got it bad was just like, it was the beginning of it. Like, it was like, okay, listen, we make, after you got a bad success,

we went back in the studio for confessions, the mentality was that we had to finish off what we thought you got it bad did, right? So, um, Usher was talking about a song, like he felt like his relationship was going through this situation and he wanted it to burn out, like, just let it burn out and we have to go through the pain and he was telling me this. And I couldn't really grasp what he was. saying because I went I haven't gone through that type of situation but I was trying to and I was trying to figure it out and um he told me this and then he left and I sat there for a minute I said thinking about him like let it burn let it burn um and I kept saying like oh okay

when you feel anybody you know I start trying to figure out what the words were and then I got it and I called him back I said I got it I got the hook So he came back to the studio and we did let it burn first. Right? We did let it burn first. And then he started saying he was going through this thing where he couldn't really work in Atlanta. Let's go to L.A. And I'm like, nah, here we go.

This is the bullshit. I thought we was. Everybody go through a phase. You're thinking he going to block his own blessings, right? I'm like, here we go. I'm thinking about me because I'm like, I want to be where I can grab all the records that I need. Any ideas. It's all in my studio.

right for me as far as being creative i don't want to go nowhere because i know i'm gonna forget something i'm gonna leave some more i can't find something yeah right so he like let's go to la and i'm like ah shit cool i'm going we go we go to brand his way and we get out there and my man that was with me um he was talking me about girls and side girls and relationships and this that and third and i just kept saying that's you just that's all bad like everything you talking about is all bad and usher came to the studio and we started talking about some things but then he left and all i kept remember he was like yo i i let's let's come back tomorrow and i was like man no i i can't let l.a beat me i get like a writer's block i feel like i got a writer's block basically

and you know it's really really bothering me because i already felt like it was going to happen when i got to l a lot to cut you off that happens to meet in lath i need a I can't just go there and go straight to the studio. I got to cry. I got to be, I got to, some shit gotta happen. I can't,

I don't got the same fluidity in the studio in L.A. that I got anywhere else. And I don't know what it, I don't know what it is. It takes a while for me to get, I can't just go there and be kiss off the rip. So I never really successfully wrote in L.A. Never.

Me, myself. Never hit one out the park in L. Like, you know, I've wrote shit there, but it wasn't... Blackout was recorded in L.A. on X album. This is it right here, man. That's probably... No, he was recording out there. First, I'm talking about for me, man.

One of X album is the best I was able to. So, yeah, so I can... I'm going through this thing and I'm struggling. So I'm like, I told an engineer, give me a copy of the beat. We made the beat, man, because he made the beat. And I think... I know.

I know the beat, right, I just don't, I ain't got the words. I can't figure it out. And I'm thinking about saying stuff that I don't think Usher's going to want to say, right? So I'm thinking like that, he ain't going to want to do this because this ain't what his life is, right? He ain't going through this. So I'm like, but that's what I want to say, but I'm thinking like, this ain't going to work. So I take the beat and I get in the car. And I'm getting in the car, I'm riding down Melrose.

And I'm thinking like, I swear I knew that. I'm thinking like, shit, I ain't got the words. I can't. So I started thinking about usual suspect, right? Kaiser Sojay was in the jail. He ain't had the words for the story. He just started looking for the words on the board and try to create the story. So I'm like, I'm going to try this.

And that's what I've started doing. I'm looking at signs on mailroads. It's all kind of shit going. Right? So I get to the light. I think on third and the Beverly Center is in front of me. and that's when I say every time I was in LA

I was with my ex-girlfriend every time she called me I told him Gary I'm working no I was out doing my work I was hand in hand in the Beverly Center like man not giving the damn who sees me

and I'm thinking like oh and I'm just grabbing this everything I see I would have never said the Beverly Sun in that song if the Beverly Center wasn't in front of me I'm trying to do the Kaiser Soze shit

right so as I get through that verse I'm like I'm like I got it so everything everything I'm been doing is all bad. I got a chick on the side with a crib in the ride up and telling you some minimalize.

Ain't nothing good. It's all bad. I just want to confess. And that's where confessions came from when me saying. I just want to confess all of this shit that I've been doing is bad. And we ain't have confessions. That if I wouldn't have said that I want to confess to you, everything that I've been doing is bad. So it's like my time.

I'm saying, this is going to be the first R&B record where the nigger actually tell a girl, you fuck it. Yeah. You ain't got any ass. Yeah. I'm fucking her. Just what I'm doing. doing. I got a crib on the side

chick on the side with a crib on the ride. I'm telling you so many lies. Ain't nothing good. It's all bad. I ain't always going. I just felt like... That song feels so good to this day. All bad. So that was the beginning, right? That was the beginning. I had to drive all the way to Malibu because everybody had left the studio and I

couldn't record. I had to remember. I had to memorize all of this. Yeah, I had to keep going, right? So the next day, it's like, we got to hurry and get to the studio. So I put it down. You ain't write it down. No. I'm right. I'm driving and writing in my head. I forget too much. So, we get back, we do this, we do all bad.

And then Mark Pitts, like, what happened after, you know, after this situation? What happened with the chick on the side? Then it hit me. It's like, oh, damn, she got pregnant. This is like my real life, right? The chick on the side get pregnant. I know this story. Like, I really know this story.

I ain't got to write this. Right. So that's when we're like, okay, I'm like, shit, was this going to be part two. And part two became these on my confession. And if we wouldn't ever got to that, if we went to it did, so we did a part two of a song that never even came out. Wow.

So that was part two. That's good. That was the response. Yeah. And you ain't even do the first one. Well, we did it, but it didn't come out. LA didn't put all bad on the first. He didn't put it on the album.

He put it on the, you know, me on the re-package. You know, you name it some big names, right? So you're saying LA, we, You're saying Mark Pitts. Who decides what comes on the album? LA Reed. I mean, you know, at that time, Ariston, you know, that was his...

He'd be like, I want this. I want that shot, cool. That's his job. That's what he's thing. And that was his space. Like, LA, you know, putting the albums together. That was his space. I just saw like an old interview with R. Kelly.

And he said he would do like a hundred songs and listen to all of them and pick out the 12. on the album. Like, you know how hard that shit had to be? Yeah. To, like,

there's probably some gems left on the floor, right? But that's what I'm saying. Like, I never even understood why L.A. didn't even put both versions. He didn't want,

he ain't put it all bad. And I'm like, you know, as crazy is that people gonna listen to this and they're hearing the second story, they don't even know

where it came from. But I couldn't figure, I couldn't figure out how it worked. Yeah, it was. It was like crazy genius. Yeah. So that was the beginning of confession.

I think big pun. Right. If you think about it, though, Jady, that's how movies. Sometimes they make you watch the movie back. Yeah.

That's a fact. Yeah. And he was ill. He said he did the Kajas and soul said, yeah, write his block. So he was looking at signs. It was like driving around.

That's genius. Yeah, but you can, you ain't got it. You know what I mean? Like, if you were under pressure, that's, that's all I remember about that movie

is that dude was in the, you know what I mean? In the jail, the dude asking them questions and he's under pressure. I made the whole story with it. Yeah, he's just looking at stuff, and he's like, oh, that's crazy. And if you could put it together to make it sound good, that's what I started trying to do.

That was it. That's crazy. So I got to ask you, I think big part because his biggest crush in the world was Janet Jackson. Right? You got Janet Jackson at her prime. Losing her prime? Okay. She was six-packed up and all that time.

That was a Janet that went crazy at one point that she just became the baddest stuff. I know that. It's good time. Can I say? Can, can, right? She was in a prime fan. You caught her at the time she went crazy, right? And so, and so, and let me ask you.

Let me ask you. Well, if she went crazy before that, it was enough to make you say, let me holler. Yeah. Right? The confidence to holler at Janet's, well, I don't know because. Did you just hear what he said he did from 12? No, no, I understand. that's it's Janet Jackson

though I'm talking about Penny Okay Well you got the confidence I ain't got Now let me ask you a question You ever got Check by

Can I say something Joe vote to five See I'll tell you He's on his shit on this I can't let you get away With this shit This ain't that This ain't that

This is cracking kiss Michael Jackson ever pulled you On the side And say yo you date My sister You know Did you So he never

He don't get involved and his sister's love life. Nah, but Jackie, I think Jackie did. And then, uh... Her Jackie had... Jackie wanted to smoke a lady. No, they just let me know. I mean, somebody...

But at the same time, you might... You might... You most like... I used to sit in front of my sister with a baseball bat. She hated me my own life. Guy come to visit her, and I'm sitting right in Forest Projects with a baseball bat. Looking at the dude, like, they had no time...

Before you even met him, though, huh? Before you even met him, huh? I don't give a fuck. that time? I was one of them crazy Puerto Ricans. You was like, yo,

I'm dating this chick. This is a crazy Puerto Rican with a baseball bat staring at me. No, no, at the house, you know, yo, miss,

can I come visit your daughter? I'm sitting there with the baseball. My, my sister never got over that from me. You know what I'm saying? Because it was whacked. It was whack.

So he never stepped to you like that. In the house, you have to pick aside, though, between Michael and Chan. That's how it was. Yeah, you had to pick a side. Like, if you was on the Michael side or you was on the Janet side.

So there was family competition. Yeah, of full, 100%. Just imagine it was six Jermaine DePrees. Shit, fuck Atlanta up. So that shit was like, control. So, like, Jackie, me and Jackie, we hit it off. Jacket told me, he was like, you know, we're the first niggas in L.A. with Ferraris. And I'm like, what?

You have to think about that. Oh, that's what he said. Yeah, just think about it. Oh, that's a fact, though. No, but I'm just saying you can't. The first niggas in L.A. to have a whit for a rung. Black.

Black, bro? Yeah. Yeah. They were the first. This fucking is the first alien in the liver room. Bro. These guys, you leave it to us. Anything they did, we believe.

Yeah, for sure. So, I mean, you have to, you know, he's just breaking it down for me. Like, you know what I mean? Oh, you didn't know that. That's why I'm telling you, it took a lot of Kohonis to step to Janet Jackson. When the world heard, Jermaine DePree was dating

Janet Jackson. He was like, this, yes. You know how many motherfuckers was like, oh, I wish I had the heart

to talk to her. Yo, I think, you know, this, you know, Raul, rest of peace,

always told me J-Lo gave him a look one time. Who was shooting a video with J-Lo, he would tell me all the time. I'm like,

shut the fuck up. She ain't look at you, the fucking line. But by the way, that's all the same. She looked at me. That's all I'm telling you. I respect it

because of you. you. I said, Taylor did not look at you, Raoul. And he really, he went to his grave with that story. He really believes that shit. It's probably true. That why I say the money and things. She looks, she go.

It's bye-bye. She looks, she go. For sure. You ain't got to say no more. Yeah. I mean, damn. I still live, I live by that today. She looks, she go.

That's it. That's what it is. She looks, she go. It's a rap. Now, after you. Now, confession. Because I got to be on the journalist, because he keeping it on Sacramento.

Oh, you've been asking it. You've been asking it. I want to stay on sedgri-gat. You've been asking all the questions. This is about time. All right. I'm with you. Mariah,

the MC, you just seem to hit everything out of the park with everything you create for her and with us. I mean, what a Mariah shit was like. The first record I did from Mariah was always be my baby, right? And, um, I fucking love that song. You will always be my baby. That's timeless. Oh.

That shit's forever. So that's the first song I did for her. And, and she came to me, like, she told Tommy, like, I want to work with him because she, like, just kicking it. She liked to escape. And she wanted a song that felt like that. And that's what we, that was my attempt to give her, like, a just. kicking it was always be my baby right um and then that's what we formed our relationship when

we just started working working working and then when l a law signed her the deaf jam he started working on emancipation of me me and i wasn't on it and he called me and he was like oh he told her his favorite maria carrieff record was always be my baby and she was like what jd did that song and he was like well you need to go to aladdin c jd and um he sent her to Atlanta and and um he sent her to Atlanta and the first record we did was it's like that and no the first record we did was can i get your number and i'm singing on the record because i was going i wanted her to do the part but um when she heard and she's like i'm not doing that you stay on the record and i don't want to i'm not singing on the record she's like you know stay on the record so i ended up staying on this song um can i get your number

and then me and b cox we did shake it off so we did can i get your number and shake it off in the same little like two days so just that's just that you're just that you're They went back. She came back to New York. She played these two songs for LA. He was like, go back. He was like, hold up. This, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this one more time.

So then they called me, he's like, she coming back. And he was like, JD, you still ain't make always be my baby. And I'm like, I don't, I don't, I can do that again. I don't know. I don't think I can do that again. So he came. And I'm knowing that he wants his record that feel like always be my baby. So immediately, I'm like, we got to make a ballot.

that's what he's looking for. He's looking for a ballot. And we made, We belong together. And I'm on a remix. Don't together. Thank you. I can't sleep at night.

And then we did it's like that too, that same little session, but we belong together. You know what's crazy is my favorite singer of all time is Luther Van Jaws. Rest of peace. And this morning, I woke up and I played the performance of Luther in London with Mariah. Now,

I've seen videos of Luther singing with Whitney Houston where he had to encourage her. Like, yo, Whitney, come on. Like, he was giving a pep talk because Luther different. But a young Mariah Carey went over there and went toe to toe like a Muhammad out of Lee fight in that performance. And it was just like, yo, like she wasn't scared to Luther. She was a young girl.

No, it's Mariah Carey. She's like, Pow, pow, pow. That's Mariah Carey, man. She, she different. You know what's crazy? Before the world was BMF's, it was so, so, deaf's. Yeah, for sure.

And so I remember going to Atlanta, and it'd be like, yo, so, so deaf. Atlanta, right? And then it turned into BMF. Well, they got a sign across from me. Across on the other side. They got the sign across the other side. Yeah. I ain't know what this.

I'm just saying the signs was like, a lot of people, a lot of people think. I was encouragement for them. A lot of people think that we switch signs. My sign, my son stayed right there. They was like, that was like under authorized, to be honest. We know what we was going to. He kids kind of call it out.

World's old chopo. Like, my motherfucker got to be kidding me, right? I used to think they was police or something at first. They'd be like, yo, get with them. I'd be like, what? Yeah, they're paying crazy money for features and this. I'd be like, I see them in the clubs and all. I'll see, yo, this is just no way these guys are

doing that, like, they thought they were legally selling drugs or something, right? And so, no, no, I'm telling you, they come to Miami, 20 white cars, Lamborghini, white Ferrari, white coloring in, white this, white truck, like this. Tuesday, sky blues, well, phantoms, sky blues, uh, Ferrari's for this, they was just doing a different color shit. Man, they had a birthday party where they was, they had tigers in the club, bro, full-fledged. They was doing shit. First time I ever seen that

175 homies at magician. But let me say this. Atlanta, Atlanta allows you to do that. Like, Atlanta's the only city in America where you can go to and you're going to see black people with money that don't sell dope. I'm to my money. No, I'm with that.

So I'm saying. I agree. So ultimately, ultimately what Mietch was doing blended in so well that it didn't feel like what you're talking about to us. Because me coming from the Bronx Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

I knew there was some indictments coming soon in a way. See, that's what I'm saying, it didn't feel like that to us. I fucking knew it like the back of my hand. It ain't feel like that to us because I'm saying, if you pull up the Linux square right now. This is mad, rich black people.

Your bro. The whole Linux square looked like, they look just like what you're talking about. That's probably the only bag I never took. Like, they was like, yo, we got the bag. He won features. And I was like, I took that.

We took it. Is it beautiful I was terrified What's talking with this Magic City album and doc? All right, so the Magic City album Initially we did a Magic City documentary and I didn't have, I got a new deal

with Hyde, a so-so-Dev hide, but I didn't have my deal, right? And I was just doing a documentary as an executive producer and then I signed my deal in between us putting this doc out and I was just like, it's crazy that we ain't doing something with the music right? So I had conversations

school and I'm like, I think my first project should be a soundtrack from this Magic City documentary. And he was like, yeah, that's, yeah, let's do that. And we call stars and we're like, yo, we're going to do a documentary. We need to a soundtrack. And it's like, we don't really do soundtracks like that. And I'm like, what? And I'm like, this is what the, this is what the club is about. The club thrives after music. The music moves the club, so you got to make it go. And they weren't really like soul on doing the music, right? But I'm soul on it. this point I'm going. I'm going. I'm starting to call artists. I'm trying to do what I got to do. So then I was just like, you know what? I thought about when I was working on American

Gangster, the songs that in American Gangster ain't in the movie, right? So the American Gangster album, it says JZ American Gangs, I mean, inspired by American Gangster, the movie. But the songs that's in there is not in the movie. So then I was like, shit, we could do this. We could just make a Jermaine the pre album inspired by the Magic City documentary. So that's basically what that's what we're at right now. I got to ask you a question, though. Jada hates this bad. Giving it to you.

Top five dances of all time in Magic City. White chocolate at the top? White chocolate. I got to write these down because I got to Google these people. But she's in the documentary. All these people, they all in the documentary. All right. Yeah, they all in the documentary.

All right. Let me get four more. I don't know. I can't. Top five. Too many. CEO. Man, it was a girl named Sugar.

He stuck. He was a girl named Sugar in there. Yeah, sugar. Oh, he's talking about as a girl. Shreth. Shrek. He's got to live, boy. Yeah, sugar.

Sugar, yeah, sugar, round. I don't know. I ain't. Yeah, she don't dance no more. None of them shouldn't dance anymore. No, no. Magic's had its, it's time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just, but white chocolate, I feel like it's all time.

She's the number one. She's the one. All time. So they don't, they don't do the most money at white chocolate ever. Yeah, yeah. Because you know, the cribs is affordable. Them girls was probably buying acres and shit. No, I'm telling you the truth.

I know you are. Like, they was out there. This shit was... I mean, I spent $10,000 every Monday for 20 years straight in... Bap, bha, bha. Easy. Take the signs off now. It's just...

Bav, bough, bach. I made the song make it rain. Yeah. I didn't go to strip club for about three years till it got played out. Until it got old. No, they was killing me. Like, every time I walk in it, be like,

then they'll play the Superman song. The lighter come on and miss the rain is here. I'm like, and it was never enough because you may make it rain. They want you to keep knowing this shit. I was like, yo, guess what? It's not good for me to go in the strip club because they put in major peer pressure on me. But see, this is where you got to walk.

You got to walk from the VIP section. And you got to go holl at the DJ. You got to get away. You know what I mean? You can't stay in that light. Yeah, it's a part. It's a play. You can get stuck so where you're stuck in that.

Yeah, everybody watching you. Magic City had to get out there. Second floor. Huh? Nah, Magic's ain't got no second floor. No, it had a second floor. Oh, now they got a little step up. That's where I met Gizi for the first time.

A little step up. Yeah, that was this far. That's as low as you could go up in that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, a little step up. What made you? What did you want to do the rap thing? Like a what inspired?

What say, y'all, I'm going to get some kids with some kids. Oh, a rap game. Not the rap game. Well, it wasn't really my idea. It was an idea that I think, like, flavor unit, they had the idea before. Shut up. Shut up. But I just was the person that had produced kids before.

And they didn't know nobody else that they thought could pull off that part. So the idea they had, they already had the idea. But when they came to me, that's when I started flushing it out, telling them, like, this is what we're going to do. under my reach about getting the artists and all of this. I just took over the show from that point. And once I, you know, after we got through the first season, I realized what we was doing.

And I was like, oh, I got this. I'm going to run this up because I've seen that, you know, I seen how many people was paying attention to it. And I also saw, like, once again, it was like an opportunity for the younger generation to step forward and be a part of hip hop in a way that they weren't ever, you know, when I was a kid, it wasn't happening. Or even somebody else, even like Bow Wow.

Bow Wow, bow wow coming in the game at the time when when Bow Wow came in, there still won't no kid rappers. You know what I mean? When he came in, we still won't nobody else out that was at 12 years old doing what he was doing.

So it was like... Boward of me was like L.L. Coogey of the kids. 100%. 100%. Fah. And the third album, when I wrote like you, that's what I was trying to get to.

Like, you know... That was his when I'm alone in the room. Yeah. Sand in my book. Yeah. I was trying to get to that. Like, you know, he was dating Sierra, so I was just like, we got to make all these songs for the girls,

all these songs out of my system, like you, all of these records I did, you know, him and Chris Brown, shorty like mine, I just start making all of these songs about the girls. Power was crazy, like certified, like, nutso. Yeah. Y'all, I'm telling you, I'm on tour with him, and they sat me, everywhere we went, they had, like, me in 101, 100,

I don't know why they gave me Bawowow. He randomly just knock on my door and I'll be like, yo, Bow Wow, what's up? And he started reading script. He's certified. Like, you can't, I met some crazy. He's like Keith Murray crazy.

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What's interesting about Bow Wow is Bow Wow is a real rapper. Yes, he is. Like a little, literally. I'm saying literally, he was on Arsenio when he was six years old. He has the longest rap career in rap. Than anybody. Don't nobody even paying no attention to him. He's been rapping longer than anybody and he's still on the radio and still got songs playing in the club.

he's been rapping longer than anybody else that's in rap right now. It's crazy. I signed him when he was 11. Superstar. I always thought he was Snoop Dog's son or some shit. He basically was. Yeah, because we was like,

Little Bad Wow, you just don't know. You know, that shit, y'all, Kiss, you got to. You gotta relax. So, Kiss, I got a question for you. What's up? I got a question for you because I, you know, I'm making this Magic City album, and I have to ask people

prior to me making the records if they beefing with somebody or whatever, whatever, because I, and I only do this. Always do that. And I only do this because I didn't do this with you, right? No, but you did a good thing. I mean, you kind of like fixed it before we fixed it with that song.

So I did Hayton Your Blood, right? I did the song, Hating Your Blood. And I put Kiss and Freeway on the same record. In the middle of the heat without speaking to them, right? And I wanted the record to be just me and kiss. I ain't want Freeway to rap. I just wanted Freeway to do the hook.

This is what I heard in my head. So I had got Kiss verse. I had Freeway come to the studio. He's like, I'm going to get my verse on here. And I was like, nah, I just want you to do the hook. Shout out to Freezer. I wasn't really paying no attention to me telling him, nah. And his man and his, you know, is his rap.

Arch Enemy. Arch Enemy got a verse going. That beef was nuclear, Jada. You and Beanie and Freeway and all I'm going back and forth. Like that might have been one of the greatest lyrical beefs of all time. So I'm being honest. I know somebody had to say something about this. That shit was serious.

No, no, no. It was a serious one. Somebody in the crew had to say something. Somebody in crew said some about this. JD's that niggins crazy. The song was knocking. So it didn't. It didn't.

really bothered me. And our beef, it wasn't, we had love. We started with love. So it wasn't, it wasn't one of them things like, it wasn't hate for.

It wasn't one of them. We're gonna die, hate, you know what I'm saying? Wasn't like, so. Yeah, I was one of this.

My trust was in you with the song. So I know you, you got the fucking billion-dollar ears. So if you hear me and him, whatever, Jeff Bezzo. Yeah.

Whatever you, saying go. Your shit is the extendo clip. I really played like that. I don't really. Yeah, I got the, I got the kiss rule. I have to ask now that I'm making these works.

Now you got to do it, but you know, I think I'm going to add a little segment. It's called Delusional Records. Delusional. Yeah, because, yo, lately. I like actually like that. Yeah. No, no, this shit been out of control.

You definitely need. Oh, I definitely need to do that. You definitely need to do that. You definitely need to do that because I was trying to think of, like I said, I've been doing this record, this Magic City album. And I'm only using artists from Atlanta, right? I'm only doing records with artists that's from Atlanta.

It's the whole soundtrack. So the first single is with Ti2 Chains and Droh. I never had records with any of them. Like, never had records with them, right? That's crazy. As the energy keeps going with this, I keep seeing people say, JD bringing the city back. This is what the city need, blah, blah, blah.

And what ultimately hurt Atlanta music scene, as people talk about why the music scene ain't like it used to be. What ultimately hurt Atlanta's music scene is delusional records. Right? Break that down for me. And the independent mindset.

Huh? Defined what you mean. So from my side, it's the independent mindset because all the artists that all the people in Atlanta love, they're not independent. And they're not paying no attention to it. So they're delusional to believe that they're going to be like these.

people, it ain't going to never happen like that. It's not going to happen. It's the biggest delusion going, right? And everybody keeps trying to pump, like, I swear I was talking to myself before I came over here to his interview and I was saying, like, you know, like, if you look at Beyonce, right, my dad signed Desi shy to Columbia. He was the president of his school. Bow, bow, boom!

So my dad used to work in Columbia Records. This was one of the things that he, you know, this was one of his, this is one of his puts right there. Shout out the OG. Yeah, shout out to my dad. But I say this to say that Beyonce has been signed to Columbia records for 25 years, right? Or longer. The arrow.

Right. But Steve Stout got a record company that's independent. United States. And Stout and hold his partners, right? You would think that if it's so green on the other side, why wouldn't Beyonce get out of her deal and go sign with Stout? Mm-hmm. Or anybody else for that matter. right and the delusion is that it's a delusion in there and whatever your delusion is it's a delusion

in there and that's what I'm saying all these artists little Wayne drake kendrick I don't care who you're talking about if they're on that list they signed to a major and you can talk about they got a better deal and that's the that's the part I'd be trying to make people understand like we got out of this space of like being we got into this entrepreneurs space and we got out of making deal space. Like, you can make a deal. You ain't, you ain't got to, you don't have, you ain't got to own it. You can go in there and make a deal.

You could tell niggas exactly what you want. If they fuck with you, they're going to take it. If they don't, you just keep walking, right? Like this, this, when I just heard you talking about, you getting paid to talk, you can't believe that, right? It's unbelievable. This is what I'm saying. But you, you, you got what you wanted.

Yes, that's a fact. Exactly. Well, we got what we want. That's what we want. That's what you got what you want it. You know. You don't get what. what you ask for you give what you negotiate yeah you got you got to negotiate and that's that's that's

what has hurt Atlanta Atlanta's spirit was that if Dallas Austin wanted to got a deal then Kevin Wells will go get a deal then Devine Stevens would get a deal and then polo the done get a deal and it was like niggas was going out here finding big big big big bags and then it got to a point where niggas like oh we're gonna do this shit by ourselves yeah all right I like to see Delusion of Diamond D who put me on He was one of the

first to move down to Atlanta from New York Diamond D Keith Sweat went down there Right Barch

Barge Who? My man Barhammed But Yeah The man went down there A lot of guys

moved down there But the part of my delusion is right So Aaron Hall's brother Oh You know what

You ain't even You got to say it You got to say it I think I'm going to get low on this You know Yo, kids. Yo, I'm just saying

when the brother, Damien Hoff, what did he do? He know what the fuck I'm talking about. He said God was the greatest group of all time. Now, God. He's a tired of the same feel like that. Go ahead.

Let me hear it with you. What's the greatest group of all time? No addition. Hello. Can you stand? in the ring. No, but that's a big

opinion. Now, you got to be delusional to think that you're going up against. You don't think somebody in a group. Sanctiv. You want to know

what's crazy? Two days ago, we're in my pool, right? Friends, family. I brought this up and everyone said new addition.

That wasn't even a brainiac thing because, you know, my favorite group of all time is Boyst Amendment, but still

everybody said new addition. Now, let me say on the show right now. New addition is the greatest group in music, history, period. They're the greatest group to ever come out. White, black, I don't care what it is.

They're the greatest group to ever come out. Reason being, everybody went solo and went platinum. Everybody. Everybody. This ain't happened with the Jackson's. This ain't happened with the four tops. This ain't happened with temptations. This ain't happened with the Backstreet Boys.

This ain't happened with Insinct. New Edition, they got BBD. they win platinum. Ralph Trezvon went platinum. Bobby Brown sold damn a 10 million records. Johnny Gill. Johnny Gill. Nobody in their crew didn't eat.

And they all went solo and they all came back. Because I got real cool with him. We still cool, but we got cool for a time. And I love that. You know, I love seeing my OGs doing great. You know, I'm waiting for him at the Waldorf in L.A. And the man pull up and the Bentley come out with the Bontagos. a bag with the...

Who you're talking about Johnny Gil? Johnny Gil. That's how I like to see my O.Gs. I don't like to see my O.Gs. You know, in hip-hop, a lot of the O-Gs fucked up in the pockets. But I love to see Johnny Gil pull up with their shit on doing fun.

What happened, kiss? I'm stretching. You stretching? You stretching? My elbow. I heard my elbow. I'm just stressed. Nah, but for real, they're the greatest group.

We got it. We should treat New Edition better, man. New Edition is the greatest musical group to ever come out. I'm talking about all of these groups. I'm talking about the Who. I'm talking about the Rolling Stones. I'm talking about all of these artists. If you go, I'm talking about all of these bands.

You can say the Rolling Stones, you can say all them, none of them nits have all their artists. They whole group. Everybody went to. Whoever they died with diamond. You know, when white people get something, they hold on to it. Whoever they got. Your own, JD? When white people get something they hold on to.

Well, we need to do the same thing. New addition is that. They still outside of Elvis house right now. You said what? They're still in Elvis house right now taking tours right now. I'll tell you. Some white people, they won't let that shit go. Yeah.

But we need to do the same with the addition. No, we need to do that with New Edition. I'm telling you, because you're talking about boys and men. Boys and men came from Bivens. Yes, they did. Yeah, I'll get a big group when you're a favorite group. When your favorite group was your favorite group. How can you take them as a guy that made them?

And I don't even think about that guy. No, no. I'm just being honest with you. I'm a new addition worshiper. I'm just saying, you know, vocally, man, that voice the man, man, man, that's hard. That's, that's a hard one. They're very, they broke up.

They got the, they got, they do what, just with new edition did. No, no, new edition put them on. So there's no question. I'm agreeing. I'm just saying Damien Hall. Shout out to Damien. Listen, we had Jim Jones. I honestly, what?

No, we had Jim Jones. Yeah, y'all ain't seen that. That shit started out. I just let him keep talking. No. You see what he said, Kiss? They try. They try.

He's on my side. You let him keep talking. What you want to do? Stop him? I try to stop him. The man kept talking. We tried. I try.

Like Josh on with a little. Listen. I try. Let me tell you something. I realized that man was determined to do that. And he waited for any, if we would have said, Serena Williams or Venus, he would have said, yo, I'm better than the house. Like, he just was waiting for that, that numb eyes.

You brought up the little guy that did the comparison. And what I would have said... And what I would have said was, hey, it's an honor to be compared with the rap. God. Any normal person... What I would have said, it's nothing about with that little...

We have a whole new segment called Delusiono Records out here. You invented it in that episode. This shit out of control out here. Like, you... God like you, you've been there since the fresh fist. You got Instagram. You see some of this shit sometimes? Yeah.

And you just like... You know, this shit I mean, it happened to me every day Because it's like A lot of the things that I live through as a child Whatever, it ain't around no more So it's hard for people to even grasp

What I'm talking about, right? It's like it's a poster That's why shows like this is very important Like it's a post in my studio That's a criss-crust poster And it says, you know, on tour of Michael Jackson And people come in there and they like

I know that happened. Yeah, criss-crust went on tour Michael Jackson like I wrote it up there like I did like this actually happened you want to know what's crazy is I think if they did a movie

of anybody who had interactions of any kind of Michael Jackson I would tune in every day like do you know what I'm saying I'm so intrigued by MJ that's why I asked you if he said you got any ill stories with MJ I did he was Michael Jackson

at all time though at all times Michael Jackson was Michael Jackson all times. Even behind the scenes. Why did you get Chris Cross on tour with? How did that? How did that? No, he wanted them on tour with him. He wanted, he wanted, he wanted, I mean, you know, he's all on Sony. But, you know, Jump was huge, right?

It was just a big record. And Mike liked, he liked rap, but people ain't, you know, I mean, they weren't really fine. They didn't know that that's what he was into. And he was like, that song. Them kids, they got it. And he took them on tour. And we was having this argument about. because I don't think it's nobody else that rap that's ever open for Michael Jackson besides Chris Cross. No.

No, I remember Heavy D with Chandler Jackson. I remember Biggie had to join with Mike. But nobody did that. You know, I got a crazy story. I don't know if it's mine to tell. But my man, 5,001, God, 5,001. He got that budget for that, right? He said, many thousand thousand, some kind of crazy budget

and they never came out. It's some shit. Got 5,001. Ronnie Jerkins calls him. Shout out to Ronnie Jerkin. All the fame, legend, all that brandy, all that. So he tells him, yo, come to the studio. I got an important customer for you.

I can't tell you who. So a guy goes to Sony Studio or something. He got his little notebook with him. He was about to take the measurements. It could have been anybody. He said he went to the bathroom. And he told Poppy. You know, Poppy cut up all the shit.

Right? So he told Poppy, Poppy, we're going to meet somebody famous. It's like, Chef, if I would have told you, but I don't know, he was like, we're going to meet somebody famous, calm down, Poppy, don't get too excited. He didn't know who. So he said he went to use the bathroom, and he was about the piss. And the biggest guys opened the bathroom door and was like, they looked and all the shit. They was like, all right, you could come in the safe. And Michael Jackson walked in.

Guy 5,001 pissed on himself. he said he pissed on and he had the fucking pad in his hands not trying to cover he was like Poppy let's go Poppy let's go he never got to measure MJ and then he pissed on himself and fucking ran out of there Poppy Poppy let's go Bobby was like yo

what what happened I thought we got to go I don't know what the fuck I'd did if I met Michael Jackson I'm not going to lie to you I don't know what I could tell you is Michael Jackson the day he died I had to pulled the truck over.

I was in the Bronx, and I started crying for like a hour. Do you know, do you remember, if you remember vaguely, it did mad shit. When Mike died, it stormed,

rain, hell, all, he was on my block. Under the thing, it did, it's like a, bro,

he was talking to the heavens. I'm gonna tell you, all type of shit in the sky. I'm gonna tell you a cap story right now. And nobody's gonna believe me if you wasn't tuned in. The Taliban took a day off for M. I'm telling you.

If he's on CNN, in Pakistan, yo, I'm trying to tell you. Yo, yo, oh my God. Let me hear this.

I got to hear you out, my brother. I'm just trying to tell you, because I'm not sure of everybody. I'm a CNN head. Whether they lied and it was propaganda or whatever it was, when MJ died, they said that the talent,

The Taliban took a day off and they had them dancing around a boombox in the mountains. The Taliban was in there trying to do to Michael Jackson. Hey, yo. Yo, what are you? MJ was the biggest shit in the world ever created. Oh, Jesus Christ. He made the Taliban take a day off. It's great.

CNN said the Taliban took a day off and they had them dancing. around the box. I'm telling you. I will say this, though. When I talk about, like, being on tour, Michael, it's hard for me to even have a conversation with people because they don't actually even want to believe what I saw. Right?

Like, you know, like Chris Brown, right? He got the thing where he's on the thing. He's flying over the ground. Oh, no, he's flying through the head. Yeah. Michael had a jetpack that he used to put on at the end of Billy Jean, and he flew out the stadium. and left.

No cap. You saw it. You saw it. Look, look, see. Stop. Why do you believe him? Don't believe me. He was dead.

Like that. You were horrible, man. He was dead. I'm not going to lie, I've seen it. They got shit to me. My man, my Dominican man, my brother Omega Fuelte, the man Omega was the biggest, like, regular told. So you've seen it before, right?

I'm telling you he showed me it. He came in studio in Miami. Omega was big, but he dissed the Dominican. in government, they don't let them come over here no more. He can't, the U.S. He thought he was the first guy that said, I'm never going back. So he used to come in my studio all the time, Lamborghini's

Ferrari, Omega's the first big, like, I don't want to say, but he was like a bad bunny at that time, right? Selling out Madison Square Guard. So he came one day and showed me that shit on YouTube or something, and he said he was going to do it.

He said, I'm doing the stadium. I'm going to fly out the stadium. You said, you Michael Jackson, he's flying out the stadium. He showed me the shit. Where did he land there? He went back to the backstage and the car was back there waiting. He was gone. Who fuck told him how to

do that? I actually don't believe it was him. You know what I mean? I'm like, this is a little dangerous. That's what I'm saying. Every show. I'm not going over the thing. I'm not going to lie to you. God bless Chris Brown's trying to die on that thing. He's not

just flying in the air. He's He's like, you ever see like little kids diving in the pool trying to crack their head? Like, dude, you be like, oh, like every time. This guy's flying in the air doing like 100 miles per hour Chris Brown. Like, he believed in them wires or whatever he's doing on that shit. Because he test the speed. I dare you test the speed of him and anybody else who did that shit. Chris Brown is doing it on.

Like, he, I swear to God, I look at it. And I'll be like, yo. But he has to go that fast to get across. This is a stadium is too big. Man, I ain't doing none of that shit. Before we get out of here, if you can't let you go without talking about health and wellness,

you turn vegan some years ago. You got products, ice cream, drinks, how else about that? Yeah, so, I mean, I've been vegan almost 25 years or 23 years now. No chicken. Huh? No, none of that.

No chicken, no beef. No. They know what a vegan is. No pesceteer. No. No, none in that. Plits. Scott wouldn't live a long time.

And I actually went vegan. I was at Quincy Jones' house. And Ray Charles was about, and Ray Charles... Brze! Get that! Go-boom! So he was talking to Ray Charles, and Ray Charles, just Ray Charles was on his death bed. Ray Charles?

Yeah. Ray Charles was on his deathbed, and Quincy was paying all his bills and the doctor bills, and Ray Charles called him from the hospital. Ray was like, Quincy, I'm done. I'm just gone and die. And Q was like, no, you're not. I'm paying for the best doctors and all of this to come over here.

They was having this crazy-ass conversation on the phone. And Rachel was like, nah, nah, we done fucked all the girls. We didn't did, we didn't eat all the stakes. He didn't need anything we could possibly do. He was really like, he was like, I'm ready. I'm tired. I ain't going to keep going through this. And Q was like, man, CJD.

That's why you got to take care of your health. Don't be doing no drugs. And when he told me that, it just was like, click. I got to kick in. Because, you know what I mean? I felt really, I felt bad because it was Ray Charles basically saying he was done. Kew was trying to keep him alive. He was doing all he could do.

But Ray Charles, you know, he was on heroin. He just, whatever he was feeling, he was ready to go. But it made me say, shit, I ain't ready to, you know, I ain't ready to go. And I sit in the studio so many hours and we eat Waffle House and this, and a third and all this. that shit ain't good for you. It ain't good for you if you're sitting around and you ain't doing no exercise.

I'm gonna be honest with you, man. If I can't eat a steak and no shit like that, check me out. What is it? Rocco. I don't want anyone on this shit. Maw-fucking Stiles P. his brother took me to some shit in Miami.

He was like, this is going to spot you. I ran out of there, a peanut butter crunch so fast in the house. He said, Look at you. You're walking in like you're mad. Yo, I must have walked in with the ice grill.

I was like, Stiles, my brother. He was like, look at this. Cucumber Carpaccio. I was like, yo, I'm getting the fuck out of here to that peanut butter crunch. Cucumber Cubs. That's so fucking fast. Oh, my God.

I've been able to do a lot of things. I really don't, you know, I don't smoke. I don't really, I don't do it. I can't eat. Eat. You can't eat. Vegan? Man, I got a, I got to taste that shit.

Yeah, with that being said. Oh, my God. This ain't that. And that ain't this. Yeah. It's cracking kiss. We want to thank our guest, Jermaine, Nepri for coming on to Joe and Jay. Royalty.

Guest to be a charity. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, hey Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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