The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - John Leguizamo on playing Pablo Escobar, 'Carlito's Way' & Latin representation in Hollywood

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by John Leguizamo, the Queens-born actor, comedian, and playwright now starring as Pablo Escobar in the first authorized Escobar story, the Spanish-language Hulu series 'Dear Killer Nannies.' Leguizamo breaks down what it was like playing Benny Blanco in 'Carlito's Way,’ the real drug dealer he based his performance on, and what he thought about Al Pacino playing a Puerto Rican. Joe and John reminisce on working together on the 2002 film ‘Empire,’ and Joe talks about writing “My Lifestyle” during the shoot using the all the gangster themes as inspiration. Then, they talk Pabo Escobar: which actor portrayed him best, Pablo’s son consulting on the show, the legends behind what happened to his $30 billion, and why there will never be another gangster like him again. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 8:00 Joe & John's 2002 film 'Empire' 10:00 Lack of Latin representation in Hollywood 13:00 'Carlito's Way' & Benny Blanco's legacy 22:00 Why Fat Joe CAN'T retire 31:00 Playing Pablo Escobar in 'Dear Killer Nannies' 46:00 What happened to Pablo's $30 billion? 52:00 Why there will never be a gangster like Pablo again 58:00 Joe tells hilarious Terror Squad storiesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I didn't like the movie the first time I saw it. What? I'm telling you. That's a left turn on the highway. That's a flag. I'm driving. That's a flag. A flag on the plate.

Two flags. That's three flags. Let me tell you why. What the fuck you mean you didn't like it? Yeah, yeah. What up, y'all? This is your boy Joe Cracked the dawn. You know who it is?

Your boy, Jada kiss. It's the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. Unstoppable, the immortals is here. And I don't know if y'all going to... I don't know if y'all going to be able to handle what's going on in. You know, the apology is always less louder than the initiation. You know, the apology.

Well, you can't continue by the... What are you thinking today's guest? All right. You think funny. You think Queens, New York. York. You think one man shows like freak. You think Broadway, movie screens.

And now a Spanish language series on Hulu called Darekiller Nannies. You think of a man who turned pain into punchlines and built a whole career. Nobody can argue with. When you think about today's guests, you think I come. Ladies and gentlemen. Can I but, hold. Benny Blanco from the Bronx, you definitely

doing that right now you was about the you kidding me you're kidding me you had that one in the chamber when you think of today's guest fucking Benny Blanco for the boat

Benny Blanco from the Bronx did so much for our coaches Oh my man there you did ladies and gentlemen makes some noise for John Linguazzaa thank you

thank you man thank you thank you thank you Man, that was great. What a great intro. I'm like, I'm embarrassed. Thank you.

You guys are the best, man. I'm home. I'm a fam. Thanks for joining the couch with me and my brother. Our production staff is like the Avengers Day. They do a great job. I mean, you got a serious staff here, man. This is insane.

How many people got here? That's a big payroll. It varies. It varies. Now, let me tell you some artists come up in here. with an entourage of like 40. You know, I'm old already. Yeah.

So I've been through every face. Oh, yeah, you've seen it all. You've seen it all, for real. So when I see them coming here with a 40 clip, I'm immediately thinking like- But you're doing the math of that. You're doing the bank. How much is that?

40 hotel rooms. Even if somebody in my family, they're still going to be on the payroll somehow. Yeah. And the gas for those SUVs and the Uber's, that costs money too. Gas right, man. They get hungry.

Entourage always gets hungry. Yo. And you don't want to eat with. they eat, you want to eat what you want to eat, and what you want to eat is way more expensive. So that's $100 a pop. So you got 40 deep times, $100 a person?

Nah. Sometimes it's a female artist coming here with 30 people, and I'm just, you know, the way I do it now, I'm old, man, it's like I'm sitting on the porch here. I'm looking at it. I'm like, yo. Yeah.

It's going to caution. This is a cautionary tale about to happen. Yeah, yeah. Oh. You know what I mean? You know what I said? You know, I help people all the time.

Fat Joe helps people all the time. That's what I hear on the street. It's the truth, though. I know. Like, I mean, truth. Like, you know, when I go to heaven, when I go to meet the man, you know. Not for a long time. Yeah, but I hope I, you know, some of these homeless, you know, I got a routine of like homeless.

You know, one day I'm hanging out with the Royal Family or Dubai, right? Right. When they come to New York, they only hang up with Fat Joe. They like to eat too. So they're like, yo, Joe, let's go to a steakhouse. I'm like, no problem. I got my A show set up. We're walking there.

It's a beautiful day in New York. And everybody's just walking up. And they're like, yo, Joe. And I'm like, honey, here, honey here. They don't, that's not in Dubai. They don't see that Dubai. They don't believe in Charlie. He said, Joe, why?

No, I don't know if they don't believe in chat, but what? Are you looking up with you? Why are these people coming up to you, Joe? I'm like, you know, I know, I know all of them. Yeah. I do that shit every day in my life. Well, that's, that's, That's good given you always put out good.

More good comes to you. You're generous. The world will be generous back. I mean, it's karma, isn't it? That's how I feel. I think you should find a way to try to write that off. Right. I mean, that would be the math and not.

These homeless, they want cash, man. They're not like, they got to tell. No, but Cass is charity. It's a charitable donation. 50 C-13. Oh, shit. You know. Not for profit.

You know, John, you want to know what's the craziest thing is, what's the craziest thing? Joe, is that the man is giving you your intro and he says, funny. And the last thing I think of John Leggu Zambo for because he plays such a gangster

role in all these moves, it's funny. But the man's funny. I went to your one-man show. I seen all your shit. What was your father's name in the show? My father's name, please. In the one-man show, Festa? What was that name? Fausta, Fausta. But I thought out to say my father's name.

My foster. Yo, that shit was hilarious, man. But you know, why can't you do both? Why can't you be a comedian and why can't you be an actor? You can do both. You just have to work harder because they're both demand different things from you. And you just got to deliver on each aspect differently. It's like athletes who can do football and basketball or baseball.

No, we appreciate you for both. It's just, you know, you know, because you get older, you got to change up your game. anyhow. Yeah, I love all your gangster shit, too. You know, I- You wasn't my favorite gangster shit that we did, Empire. Let me make some noise for that. Yeah, who.

Everybody always talks about that scene when you pop this lever and the rifle flies out from the back of the couch and shotgun, yeah. Let me tell you the best part of that movie. That put me into like a space where I think one of my best, best, probably my very best gangster song I ever did, my lifestyle. I wrote it whenever we had a break in the trailer. Yeah, yeah. Because we was doing that movie and all that gangster shit was going on.

I'm, y'all want to live my lifestyle. Buckwell sent me the beat. I wrote the shit on the set of that movie in the trailer. Every time we took a break, I went back up in there, another bar, another two bars. You're like a method rapper. Like you were being gangster and you were writing. gangster rap. Yeah, but the movie was so gangster. It was. I mean, Frank Rayne wrote about his own life. He wrote about his own family and people that he knew in the South Bronx. It was legit. I mean,

that's what he was writing about. That's why Empire rocked so hard. Yeah, it did, man. And even me, you know, whenever it shows up at two in the morning someday, I start watching that shit. If it comes on TV at two in the morning, I'm like, dude, I got to tell you, that movie was really special because it cost two million dollars to make back in the day. And when it came out in December during Christmas time, it was number eight on the billboard. It was number eight against movies that were 50, 60, 100 million. And we were number eight and stayed up there for about a month on the top.

That's how hot the movie was. It was also ahead of his son. Oh, yeah. About somebody wanted to get out the game and invest in Wall Street, but it was a scam. he had Bernie Madoff before Bernie Madoff. And also a Latin director, Latin writer, you know, the whole Latin cast, that was way ahead of its time too.

And we were making bank, and there should have been an empire too. Frank Rays, the director should have had a ton of movies if he was a white director and a white writer. He would have been offered everything. And instead, you know, you just got to keep retelling, please look at this script.

Please look at this. And you always got to keep begging it. it gets tiring. I like to whine and complain. That's right. I like to bid. So what? No, that's true.

If I can't complain here, what the fuck? No, I'm being honest with you. That's really my problem with Hollywood. Like... I call it Hollywood-Wooden. Hollywood. Because it has been Hollywooden for us forever. I mean, I have great success in it,

but at the same time, it's still not what it should be. You know what I mean? It's still, we're still like, we're 20% of the population, We over indexed at the box office at 30%. We're a third of sports fans. Where is our 30% of the movies, of the casting, of the executives?

Where is that? I want that. I want 20% because that's our parody. I'm going to tell you a story. I don't want to keep talking over my partner. No, no, but there was once a guy, right? And I know he's going to know. I'm pretty sure he watched.

Who? No, he was a good guy. I can't say, but they made him. the president of one of the biggest studios. Which one? Oh my God. Listen. Big time.

Okay. This guy was, give us initials. This guy was running the show, but, and I knew him. And we have friends in common. Every time I go to L.A., we would have dinner together, and I would sit down and be like, yo, what movie you put now? Oh, nothing. And I remember that.

Yo, but you, you know, you're in the hot seat, bro. you could put out a bunch of Latino movies, black movies, this. He was the man. He'd answer to no one. This guy was hiding under his death so long until they figure out, hey, this guy, Johnny, ain't doing nothing. Trying to get rid of him.

It's like these people work to get in these positions, then they get gunshot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They scared to pull a trigger on the movie because if it doesn't succeed, then they're fired. Well, you hit it up, you hit it right there, because that's what the industry is. It's based on fear.

Everybody's afraid of losing their jobs. So everybody's afraid of making a mistake and pulling the trigger and green lightning shit. I mean, David Soslov, the guy who's doing that big deal, the big merger right now with Warner Brothers, HBO and the L.Saint? 70 billion, that one? Well, his whole thing was zero production. That's how he grows the value of the company. But you can't have a production company that doesn't produce. Of course you're not having-

Or they do. Well, he did. But it's a fake, it's a fake premise, bro. It's a Ponzi scheme. And that's why they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're talking about. Let's talk about my show coming out before I, this is, before we get in a, well, you're a one-man's show in regular life. Before, before we get into the new show, I got, I got, I got some Carlito. No, let's get it to the show. I got some Carlito questions. I was that.

Carlito is one of the movies that feel like every character was real life. Yeah, it was. Every, it feels like it wasn't a character. Jada, you were right. I mean, because the writer was a New York Puerto Rican judge who wrote about his life growing up in Spanish Harlem. So he knew what he was talking from, you know?

And, you know, they cast Luis Guzman and myself to bring a little authenticity. Because, you know, the lead was supposed to be Puerto Rican, but it was played by a white guy playing Puerto Rican, which is, you know, it was what they used to do back in the day. They won't let us be our heroes in our stories. He played a legendary role. Yes, the white guy.

He did. Al Pacino, don't think that. Why you got to name him, man? Because he's the legend of all that executive, but he'll name Pacino in the movie. He's a bad motherfuckeraco. No, he is. It's amazing.

He's amazing. There's a lot of white actors that I respect. I'm not disrespecting them. I still love my white actors. You think a Latino could have played that role. Hell yeah. not, yo. We had Andy Garcia, we had Benjamin

Brad, we had Benicia, we had tons of people who could have played it. But they wouldn't give us those lead roles. I mean, Pachino played Latino twice. And how many other browns face?

Too iconic, though. Yes. That would have made a star Scarface. Yes. And fucking Carlito's way. But imagine you put a Latin actor in that role, man.

They would have been superstars. The Latin actor was Benny Blanco from the Blanc or was it Saso? The pig that didn't fly straight. This fucking movie, let me tell you something. I didn't like the movie the first time I saw it.

We all went to the movie that I'm telling you. That's a left turn on the highway. That's a flag. I'm driving 90 miles on the highway. That's a flag. A flag on the plate. Two flags. That's three flags.

Let me tell you why. What the fuck you mean you didn't like it? I'll tell you why. I don't know if I want to know why. No, no, no. It ain't even your fault. Nobody's fault. I'm coming off of Scarface.

We lived, I mean, if we keeping it real, Scalphics. You know what's it. I know, but Scarface. Same director, same director, Brian De Palma, one of the great. Scarface kind of, like, destroyed my whole crew's life growing up.

We sold drugs because of Scarface. We wild out. I remember getting locked up. And my best friend was called Tone Montana, rest in peace. Wow. He got killed. I remember going to the priest and getting locked up with him.

And him in human life, putting his foot on the captain's table like, I am Tony Montana. And you have a job in the, nigga was like, shut the fuck up, get the fuck in the cell. Like, you know, we were brainwashed. So when Carlito's way came out, we thought it was like Scarface Part 2. Right. And when he walks around Spanish Harlem and everybody's like, yo, and we like,

oh shit, you see Chi Chi in that spot, and the Chi Chi, rest in peace, Chi Chi get the Yale, Angel Salazar, right? Right. He comes up,

so I'm thinking it's Carface too. Yeah, yeah. It's on, the whole movie theater thought that, by the way. And then it turned into a love story with ballet,

with this, with that. But years later, understanding life and all that. Right, right. That movie's one of the great. this movie's ever made in the history of mankind. I got to understand the love story.

He's trying to break away. Right, right. Trying to get out the business and the business won't let him go. Yeah, so at first, I'm thinking this car face part too. And then I'm like, yo, this is a fucking love story with a white girl. Ballet. Like, what the fuck?

You was the only person we could relate to in that scarface. Because you're walking up in there, you're Benny Blanco. Right, right. What was that like playing Benny? Was there anybody you thought Of course, it was. I'm playing this guy.

I knew this guy. I grew up with him. What was it? It was a cat that I was hanging out with. Yeah. He was a drug dealer. And I shouldn't have been hanging out with him because I didn't realize I was kind of stupid and thought I was invincible somehow.

But hanging out with him was really dangerous because his brother had gotten shot just walking around the neighborhood like that because they were both drug dealers. Everybody knew who they were. So it was stupid of me to go with him to where he stores, with a stat with a, stash houses and all that and I was doing all that. So yeah, I based it on somebody directly because that's why I had that kind of fire and juice, but also Brian De Palma taught me so much, man.

He gave me so much law in that movie, so I got to return it. We had just done Carlito Casualties of War with Sean Penn and Michael J. Fox and Bing Rames' Vietnam movie. And then he cast me as Benny Blanco in the Bronx. And, yo, back then that was really, film 35 millimeter.

You got four or five takes. He gave me 30 takes on my entrance because he enjoyed the crazy shit that I was doing. But that taught me how to act, man. Because everything I did, I came and I knocked down the waiter's tray. But you walked in. Yeah, yeah.

I did 30-gillist walking. Like, you had the chest out. Like looking at the shit. Like, you had that shit to a science. It was so much fun, man. And Pacino, I was in Providence. advertising everything. De Palma allowed me to put all my friends at my booth in the,

in the club, in the discotheque. I had my ex-wife, we won't talk about her, and then all the other people were like Nelson Vasquez. How much she took? She took a lot. At the time,

it was almost 50% of what I had. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Jesus is Lord. She's in LA. She's not going to hear this. Yo, Jesus is Lord, man. Why?

You had a... No, no, no, no. We didn't have that. Who's had a good divorce? Nobody's has been divorced. But that's it. Like it's quiet in the room. No, no, because with no disrespect,

because I got a lot of friends, they divorce wives, but that's like, that you consider that a job now. Like, wives of, athletes and all that, like that,

like that. And then they become business women. Once you give them that 20, 30 million, their new shit under their Instagram and everywhere, it's like, yo, this is the business lady

from this and this and that. And the only business they did was taking niggins money. This shit is out of control, money. I'm sitting there like, the business woman of the year. I got to throw a flag in there. Before we all get canceled and shit. I got a lot of sisters. How many ex-wives do you have, Joe?

I don't have ex-wives. The problem is, I just, anyway, it's a huge hustle these days. No, it's a huge hustle. But, yeah, so that, that movie changed my life, Carlito's way. But you know, what's interesting to me, Joe, is that Scarface, because there's such few Latin representation, and we had no positive representation in that era, it was all like drug dealers,

because everything in Miami Vice, every Latin character was a criminal. And then you, if they had more positive Latin images, would you have gone into a more positive, path or or because Scarface was even a white guy playing a Latin guy playing I was just headed for the wrong path like you no matter what I had a father he worked his ass off I had a mother she worked her ass off I had love in the crib and I was just looking for the wrong shit no matter what so you know what happened no it's the truth I had a father that loved me he worked his ass off Like there was days my father would come home

dressed like you and fucking just throw himself on the bed and we saw him the next morning. He didn't even even... Worn out. They had that motherfucker working. And my mom, same shit. And I still, the minute I could run to the streets, I ran to the streets.

I was very ambitious. You know, almost like Benny Blanco. I was very ambitious. You're still very ambitious. That hasn't gotten away. No. No, no, no. No, it's something I'm blessed with because there's so many people. that choose to live a mediocre life.

They choose to, all right, we did it already. You know, I'm at the point. I ain't even going to lie to you. If I put my lifestyle down, you got to put it down. You got to move somewhere where it's cheaper or something like that. I don't got to work no more. Right. I could just watch TV and shit.

Oh, you're downside so you could. Yeah, you're smart. That's a smart move. That's a down side, but not for me. Oh, see, I'm Benny Blanco. I'm still walking out. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

You got all that blames. That can't be cheap. Yeah, I got to come up in this restaurant. I got to be in all the hot spots. But I am saying if I ever wanted to get myself a nice affordable middle income nice house and watch Jeopardy at 730, I could do it. You could do it. But that's not you.

That's not you. You got to be in this shit. You know, that's the story of my life. How much is this gig pay you? How much is this gig pay you? It's paid, right? really good. How much is really good?

I need numbers. I can't. This guy won't give me, he won't give me initials. He won't give me numbers. My ex-ex-X-out of this. Listen, my ex-X-X-X-X-wife will be coming for some fucking money

if she sees the numbers out of this motherfucker. Huh? Oh, that's what he missed. A few. Yo, you crazy? You don't want Tita from the block coming for a fucking lifetime warrant. That bitch, are you crazy?

I can't tell them numbers. That's a new thing I don't do, though. What was that? Was that? Whoa. No, we come from nothing. Right. Right.

So everything since the beginning of time of rap music has always been bragging. Ravito. Of course. Right. You know, fucking Melly Mell still living the process. He was like, Shimmer Pal, Melly Mell. They was talking about.

that shit from, but in any case, back in the days when any rapper would get a big check or some new success, they would announce it. Right, right, right. Right on, 97. Yeah. First guy from Brooklyn to make eight million. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Put their shit up on the rapists and the motherfuckers would be running in the street in the hood. Like, yo, homeboy made eight million. Now you'd be lucky to see me say I made $2. You could figure it out, do the math, look at me. Well, I just go look at celebrity worth and I go, boom, fat shows. That's not true, though. How's it not true?

Too little or too much? I got to watch the cost more than what they say my net worth. That shit been lying a long time ago. Trust me what I tell you. It's way off. It's way off. Beyond. Oh, good to know.

But my thing is I looked it up before I can. I don't brag about. Because I was going, he's worth a lot more than that. Come on, now. Yo, bro. I got more sneakers. I got more shoes. But he said, yo, bro, you know.

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Anyway, can we talk about my serious? Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Utopia! No, no, no, that's Utopia. Deer Killeenetopia. They're killing nannies, man. It's so dope, man. It's the first authorized Pablo Escobar story.

And you know, white actors in America all have to play Hamlet. All Latin actors have to play Pablo Escobar. You have to. Benisa Toro did it. Javier Bardem did it. Wagner-Maur did it. Now I'm doing it. But I think I got the best accident and the best.

Yes, sir, bro. You check it out. You don't. I'm going to watch. I just was watching Pablo yesterday. Look at some YouTube Pablo Escobar video and then look at what I'm I'm doing, see how there's no different.

I can tell you about Popeye. His hip bit is hit me still walking around Columbia. I watched Pablo. I was he said, Popa, I thought he was talking about Colombia, he was talking all the timepice. Woo! Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You got to meet the real Popeye because he's out there in Colombia. No, I didn't get to meet the real Popeye. But I studied his videos. I met his son, Pablo Escobar's son, who changed his name, Nice guy. Just seen the thing on his wife yesterday, too.

Yeah, the dude escaped the sins of his father. Escape the lifestyle. He became a psychologist, travels around the world, giving speeches about positivity. Like, you really ran away from that. He could have chosen to keep going in the father's... Of course. Because the reason that Pablo is still magnetic

is because he's the wealthiest gangster that ever lived in the history of the world. He died with $30 billion back then. today's dates would be $70 billion. Let me, let's do a toast to the new series. Come on, two times. This guy's called two times a felon.

Don't tell me why he wears those shoes. I don't know. What kind of shoes is those? Pennylofer sneakers. He got the leakers. He wants to go double viral and I fell for it. Man went viral with them fucking astronaut

shoes he got on right now. He got pennies and the penny loafers? Yeah, he got sneaker penny loafers. You got a, Penny in the penny. That's a good question. He got to sit in the lower cartels on. You shit.

Yo. Oh, shit. He got the sitting the lowest. There you go. That laugh is the bad. Oh, shoot. Those are sneaker penny lovers. Oh, my God.

Who the fuck? Advice. I never seen those. I never seen those. I never seen those. Those are the same. Eskaddles. Yo, a toast to the new series.

1800. Toaster, dear, killer nannies, streaming now, Hulu, Disney Plus. Let's hear about it. Yes, yes, yes. Make sure we all go check it out. Enjoy it. I start watching the trailer, right? Yeah, yeah.

And I understand Spanish much better than I speaking. But it started getting real. It started getting, I needed to call somebody. It got over. You got to read it. I try to leave no sub... I try to get in, you know. Oh, you try to do without subtitles.

Like, try to go like dual lingo with it. No, no, no, no. You need subtitles. Especially Columbia, as they talk. They talk fast. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, I try to talk to my fucking mother-in-law. She told you what you're eating for breakfast.

She told you the whole menu, bro. And one, that shit goes... That shit out of. You're like, huh, what? What? What? Like, now, they motherfuckers talk fast. Yeah, yeah, talk fast.

You need the subtitles. You know, I want to see that series because, to me, thus far, the best Pablo was the cheapest version. Which was that? Like a Pablo novella. Yeah, oh my God. That guy was good.

That guy was better than me. Don't say that. I'm going to admit that. I'm admit that. That guy was really good, huh? He was incredible, man, because he looked like him. He spoke like him. Yeah.

The novella guy. Yeah, that guy was killer. But I'm better than all the other North American actor. I'm better. I am. Go check it. Go take that motherfucker out. To say it for you,

I'm watching the shit with 20 black guys. Every time that shit came on, we're in the studio in Miami. We all watch them reading the subject. We didn't miss one part of the studio. Dude, that series is incredible. That shit is 80 episodes. You didn't watch all 80.

It's like 80. We watched it every day. Not 80 episodes. You're too busy making money. How's that celebrity it's going to get bigger if you're watching TV? We were recording pre-podcast. We was in the studio 20 deep

every fucking night watching that, Pablo. I believe you. When it first came out. But watch this series, man, because the son gave up all the intel on what was happening behind closed doors. And even though Pablo was this social, gangster assassin,

he showed love to his kids, like hugged and kissed. And in Columbia back in the 80s, pops were tough love. They weren't hugging and kissing. Like my dad, when I was growing up, he was like, every day you get stupider by the moment. Congratulations. How do you become even stupider than yesterday?

That was love back then. Yeah. But not Pablo, because Pablo was on death store all the time. So he hugged his son, kissed him, said, I love you publicly and everything. He got caught because of his feet. Family.

Say what? He got caught because of his family. They tell gangsters you have children. That's your new Achilles heel. That's how they're going to get you. And that's how they got them. Man, what a fucking story, man. I was just, it's crazy.

I'm so, I don't know if it's a poet, but infatuated with Pablo and his lifestyle. I was just yesterday I'm watching the story of his wife and how he met her. He met her really, really young. Well, they were both young, but he was really mad young. He was like,

He was, like 13. Yeah, it was, it was, it was cancelable, young. How was he? He was 21. 21, but still, I mean, that's still way too young. No, that's not right. That's inappropriate. Not at all, but back in the days, was that?

It wasn't, it wasn't the 1800s. It was 1980. Come on. It was still not cool. It was not appropriate. It was crazy. It wasn't cool. No, but he had, he had mad power,

and he thought he could do whatever the fuck he wanted. So he thought that, yeah, but that's wrong. Yeah, that was wrong. Now, Pablo did a lot of foul shit. Of course. If you believe... His wife is alive? Yeah.

Yeah, she's alive. Yeah, yeah. He's got two kids, and his son is doing great, man. He authorized this show. He consulted on it. He talked to the writers. There's dialogue in here that I go. There's no way.

This is incredible. This is not dialogue. These are spoken words that had a life. These words were actually said. And when he confronts his father, because the kid couldn't go to school because the DEA will catch him or he'd be assassinating.

The kids were scared of him. So he had to be homeschooled. And so Pablo got him these assassin nanny teachers that were his nannies, teachers, friends, and family. But you can't control them. Yeah, but you can't control them either

because they're not families. So some of them became informants. Powell had to kill them. The kid doesn't know what to do now. He's like, these people were my family, my friends, and you kill them. And he says to him, If mom crosses you, you're going to kill her.

If grandma looks at you the wrong way, you're going to kill her. These are actual words that the son talk to that. You want to know what's crazy about being a gangster, especially in America. Well, it's everywhere. But especially in America is, God forbid you born with the name Goddy, like John Gotti. You could be the 17th grandson. You're already a criminal. You're in school and they're looking at you like you're a mom.

mafia boys. Right, right. They on your ass. They don't want to hear nothing. They lock up anybody, you know, what I noticed about life. Say, it's still feeding. Pablo Escobar, his son is given the rights to the movie,

so they're still eating off the harvest last name. But he's not taking the $30 billion that he could have had. I know, but what I'm saying, that we know of. But listen to what I'm saying. Right, right, true that, true. Right. What we're saying is this, right? I'm not even glorifying that like that.

What I'm saying is, when you look at the Roman empires and the movies and all that, everybody always kept caring about their name. They were like, I'll break down every statue with your face on it. Your name will never be told in the streets, this, this, this, that. And it's all about your name. So these kids, if you born Jonathan Gotti from fucking pre-K, they're looking at you like, he's going to federal prison.

He's a gotty. He's going to go. And Pablo's son's probably one of the only kids that was in this shit that was able for the enemy, not to murder him. Yeah. Because you know what?

You kill so many people. Absolutely. He had to change his name and run away. There's families of people that want to kill him. Absolutely, absolutely. He was in it. Oh, no, he's in it. Well, he was a kid.

His dad was shot at when he was 19 years old. So he didn't really get into the, the game. And his dad was protecting him from that. But when his dad got shot, he was only 19 and he left and he changed his name. The mom took them away from the country. They moved out, went incognito, and then he resurfaced, you know, after they had taken down the enemies. The government had taken them all of them down. Then he, then they resurfaced. But there was years and they moved to Bolivia or something, but you want to know what's crazy. If you think about Griselda, she went back to Columbia. They made.

murdered her on the motorcycle guy came and murder her the first thing. She touched down. Wow. Columbia. She was like Pablo's, you know, she was killing everything too. They killed her. They ain't let her living. The minute the United States.

Who killed? Was that Pablo's people or was that the other cartels? No, just Columbia. She killed so many people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, the people are going to come back to you.

Yeah. Yeah. Somebody, you know, unfortunately when you see these movies and they see the little kid, what we're going to do with the little kid, they usually killed a little kid because they're like he's coming back you know we killed this whole family yeah he's going to be he's going to want vengeance

some time so this guy's very lucky that he's able to even it's amazing how you know the psychology of it all I mean he's like a Wikipedia on gangsterism gangsterismism hoodidism the kid's going to come back killed but not this kid because this kid left alive killing.

Yeah. His mother, too. His mother's like an advisor or something. But it's true. I mean, what happened to those $30 billion or $70 billion now? No, it's there. He's there somewhere. It's weird.

Do they keep finding this money and shit like that? No, nobody's found anything. There's a whole bunch of stories out about decayed, rodded. There's a farmer's story circulating about a farm. There was one father that found a bunch of money and they assumed. He turned it in. Mark. They mark bills too, aren't they marked bills? Some of them? No, it's old school money.

But he said it's there. You got a formally fine 700 million. He's like, yo, get that shit out of here. In 2020, you found like $1,000 in one of an apartment in Medellin. And it's never you gave it up? Yeah, I found. Yeah, I found. I found 18 million. He gave it back? Who gave it back?

Fuck out of here. Let me explain to you. This is the problem I have. Why is the problem you have? You will understand it. Maybe. I hope so. The world villainizes people. Right. Martin Luther King was murder. Right.

Now there's a Martin Luther King Highway everywhere. There's a Martin Luther King High School. Joe Lewis, they drove him crazy for taxes. The man was looking out the window of the box of Joe Lewis, thinking the government was coming to kill him because he owned taxes. Now you got Joe Lewis Highways. You got Joe Lewis School. But these were heroes.

I mean, they were heroes to us. Right? Well, they did good things. So what I'm trying to tell you is my daughter went to Colombia and she went to the museum of Pablo Escobar with the plane on top, the high scene. They still making money off this man that they murdered and they called him a criminal and they assassinated

and he was the biggest shit in the world. To this day, Columbia is making money off of fucking Pablo. Right, but they have a, they have a hate relationship with Pablo. They do not love him in Colombia because... Well, who's making the money? I don't know who's making They take you on Pablo Escobar. Tourses making the money off of this show,

but that's not like, it's not 30 billion. I'm not saying him. I'm saying if we went tourists to Colombia and we want to see. Hey, don't denigrate my country. No, no, no, my wife's Columbia. Oh, okay, okay.

We got good taste. Yes, thank you. But a little, a little Colombiariqua. Yes. Colomboiqua. We got that. But what I'm saying to you is if we wanted to go to a tour of Pablo Escobar

Yeah, yeah. And you did it. There's people doing it right now. Well, I went to all the locations where he lived, all his, the big zoo that he had. I did all that when we were shooting because we shot it in Colombia in Medellín near all the places that he actually did live. Wow. Yeah, he did. You know, you had a big zoo and he had hippos. 15,000 animals, they said. Yeah, and they let the hippos out into like our Mississippi-type river, Magdalena. It's infested with hippos. You know, hippos are the most dangerous animals on the planet. They let them go in the water. Yeah, and they multiplied into the hundreds now. So they're no one to have to go out and clear, you know, do it with PETA, you know, approval.

Euthanize them. Yo, y'all, ain't nothing, Peter. Did I sidetrack too much? No, no, no. I have ADHD. I'm sorry. My brain goes everywhere. Oh, okay, cool.

No, this show, you know. You give us all you got, brother. I'm trying. I'm trying to try, baby. We're out here, you know. I'm here, you know. I'm here for you, man. We're trying to make this shit happen, you know what I mean?

So I'm definitely watching this series. Dude, it's an all-Spanish-language show. I did the dubbing two for those people who don't like to read. Jeddichis, you can... No, I'm going to read it. You do the dual-lingo thing and just watch it and not understand it. But...

I love that about him. I love that about it. This actor, there's a famous actor. Every time they do something in Columbia, it's a little guy with red hair. He's always in all the Pablo movies. What fucking movie I watched last night? I watched this shit called Agent Zena.

And he was one of the fucking spies in the movie, too. It was based out of Columbia. Oh, wow. You know the Redhead Colombian actor he played in that novella he was he was Gustavo

Gustavo in the novella but he makes all a Spanish speaking movies he's always got a He makes every movie legit

He must have been in my movie He must have been in that movie He must have been My series made a legit Seal of Approval I don't know that cat No Uh uh uh

But dude I mean This series is so cool Because it's all from the POV of the kid. So it's, because obviously the son gave us all the info, the intel on it. And it's all from his point of view of growing up with these killer nannies that protected him and raised him.

And he lived this wildlife that he was able to escape anyhow, which is the biggest beautiful part of the show is that you see him hit 19. He starts up as a little guy. And his dad is loving and caring, but the dad has to like move them out of one place to the next because they're not. They're onto him. He has to sometimes not be with them so that he's a decoy. So I don't blow up his family.

You know, so they're constantly living in paranoia. So it can't be a good lifestyle, bro. Even if you have $30 billion to live like that. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called,

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you party for a year. Right. You fuck every stripper you ever wanted to. You buy watches, all type of shit. You drive around fly for one year, then you get a good old 40 years for it in the feds. You have a one-year run. Right.

And you're the guy. You Taco 104. You run a shit. You and Starlets. I'm just trying to tell you, you the dog. Champagne, right. Well, it's good, it's good. You know, come through.

You got one year run. You wore the fly jacket for a year. Next thing you know, you got to meet Jay to kiss the fat Joe. Yo, what's up? Next thing you know, you were in there telling that story for 40 years, how you was running shit in 2019. Then you were three time and four time, yeah. It ain't no problem with Eskabal where you get the fucking be on the run for 15 years,

this and this and that. A.B's in the building. No, I'm glad you're saying that, me, because that, needs to be said that not to romanticize or idolize this type of lifestyle because it's a short term, you know, it's a short term deal. It's a short term goal. It's not right about now with all these cameras and all that. Oh, shit, forget it. They could Jesse Smalley yet. You know, they're about to do it. They fake beat them up and they put the cameras all the way back to the motherfucker. To the motherfucker got out the car with the motherfuckers. He was rehearsing. They caught him on film

in a studio rehearsing the movie when you punched me to the left. I'm going to look that. Wait, you put this shit out of control, huh? This motherfucker, y'all, this shit out of control. Yo, they're sick out here. Yeah, no, dude, now they're going to have drones that can follow you. No more police car chases. A drone is going to follow you till you stop. That's the new thing coming.

When you seeking... Yes, the heat-shaking drone and comes after you till they get you. No, gangsterism is done. Mm-hmm. You got to go to a jungle. It's a police state. Yeah, this shit out of the shot. control right now.

Thank God because some of these motherfuckers is crazy. They're going to have drones that follow you to you. Yes. Yeah. Windows coming. On the air, ready, y'all. Don't make any plans. Don't make any plans.

I swear to God, they're using them in Jersey. Chasing dudes with the drone. Really? The dudes hiding in the thing and they'd be like, come out. No, no, no, no. They got those. They do it. Palantir and Oracle in our government.

That's, they're going to follow you. They're going to use your. your ring in your house. You're going to use your nest in your house. Your, your whatever stupid vacuum through the Zumba, Rumba thing. You're going to use all that to look at you,

find you, GPS you, and you're going to be controlled. They're going to lock you in your house. It's crazy. It's coming. Palantir will get all your info and data and combines it all

to find out where you are, what you're doing, and predict your behavior. Like the movies we used to see. Yes, but now it's a reality. Let me ask you a question, right? You can ask me anything. Movies prepare us for like where we're going in life.

Like some shit. Well, sci-fi does. I think sci-fi definitely does prepare us for a future because it's all imagination. And these writers have to think about it's imagination. I think some of this shit is like they're letting us know, hey. Some of these research. When it years from now, you ask, you know, George Justin have FaceTime. Mm-hmm.

Meets George Jackson. Jane, his wife. Now we got FaceTime. Yeah, yeah, for real. You thought that was never coming. Now you take a shit, you press the wall and it flushes. That was George Jessus. Uh-huh.

At that time, we was up on the flingstones with the bullshit car, but George Jessus was letting me know. Food on a tray. Remember the food just come out on a conveyor belt and the Jetsons? We got that. A lot of times when movies win awards like the Oscars and all that, I'm like the guy who goes, watches it the next day. Oh, yeah.

I never saw Bagonia. The Bouguia is crazy. That shit was... That was crazy, man. Yo, how incredible was this movie? I don't know how I felt about that movie, bro. I had a bit of a hard time with it because of the female violence. I was like, what's your point, bro?

Oh, I'm never going to work with him now. Thanks a lot. Yo, Yargos! I was talking smack about Yargos. What the fuck is wrong with me? Just what? She blew up the whole world. What is in this drink, bro?

Yo, that's a truth serum or some shit? That's the best ever. But let me tell you something. Oh, fuck. I can't. I can't believe I said that. Yo, that shit was a bugged out movie, though. I said what?

It was bugged the fuck out. Oh, hell yeah. Good movie, Borgonia. It was interesting. You got to watch that shit. Those boys, watch it. Them boys was crazy to motherfuckers, man. I had to double watch that movie.

I said, yo, you're a fuck, but crazy. The whole time I'm looking, I'm like. Give him the ending. Spoil the ending for everybody. Let me tell you about about one thing that happened with that movie that was crazy. Don't get in my zone. They had the dumb cousin.

Don't, don't, don't say. No, no. Don't say dumb. No, because the kid is, because he's not acting. He's not acting. Oh, no. No, no, he's a special. Oh, no, God bless.

I got a special niece. Oh, yeah, he's special. Last thing I'm doing is playing with anybody. No, no, he's real special needs. That wasn't acting. I didn't know that. No, no, no. That's why I wanted to alert you to that.

No, no, no, no. God forbid that he did a phenomenal job. Yeah. It was incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I know. What I'm saying is I didn't know. But what I'm saying to you is, it's like, we got an inside joke, right?

What's that? You know, terrorist squads, my crew. Hell yeah. Rap, label, whatever. From way back when? And now we say, you're the leader. You're the what? I'm not the leader.

Right? So, you know, now they try to lock record labels up like if they're gangs, like the mafia. So everybody, we hand on the term. We'd be like, yo, Serge, guess what? You're the leader now. I don't want it anymore. He'd be like, even the dumbest guy in Trevor Squad calls me back, not Serge, in two seconds. I am not the leader.

I am not the leader. You are the leader. You are the leader. Nobody wants to be the leader no more. No, no, no. Not the leader. And if you ever notice in the movies, they always take somebody with a little low IQ. and they put them there and they use them.

You know what I'm saying? We used to call that throwing the battery in the back. When you had a guy that you knew he wasn't that smarter, you could gas him to do anything. Right, right, right, right. You'd be like, yo, that guy don't like him. Maybe he should get shot in his head. I don't know.

This is that. Right, right. Johnny two times me like, really? The lady said he don't like, hey, yay. Yeah. The guy don't like. that now. Let's see what happens. Like, yo, this guy.

I had one guy came home. I had one guy. Okay? Let me just end it's over. I never told this story. We had one guy we grew up with. And let me tell you something. This guy was dangerous. Right? Like a sociopath? Well, some of these guys, we just thought they were real guys in the hood. Some of them were serial killers. Right, right.

But this, well, anyway, one day we four deep, we in the Jeep. This is the 80s And we're trying to rap to some girls You know, Fat Joe got a shirt all You know, I used to go topless My jewels on You know, I never Yeah, I never was ashamed of being the fat guy

And let me tell you something When them police come for murder I've been there three times When the police come for murder They come with tanks With fucking trucks with lights with fucking trucks with lights with this. They come with so many police cars.

Technology. No, no, not technology. They know you killing. They're coming to get the killer. So what I'm trying to say is, anyway, we get locked up. They throw us on the floor. No reason. Nice, hot day like today.

Everybody's on the floor. We go on the precinct. We turn around. And the one guy, he's looking at us and he's like, and we don't know. We're joking. We don't know what we in there for. He's like, guys, remember what it happened over there at that,

you know, shit we heard about. about the guy he got, you know, shot in the neck, man. I won't be seeing Y'all for a while. Oh, shit. He knew what they came for. We had no fucking clue. Yo, we suck my dick. Fuck your mother.

We, we don't know what we're getting locked up for. We, he got locked up. So he did about 15, 20 years or something. Damn. And everybody was coming back from jail. Like, when you know how you go to jail to visit now, they used to come back and be like, yo, y'all got one. Yeah, I got one.

God, he won. This motherfucker was stabbing everybody in there. They was like, y'all God. Damn. There's a guy named such and such. Y'all got one. He laying there down in there. So legend, he comes home from jail.

I'm already fat Joe the rapper. I'm a Jimmy's Braves Cafe. You probably was in there with your crew at night. Jimmy's Cafe was the bomb, man. Dominican food. And they go, Joe. Look who just came on. to such.

Look at the guy, he comes home. He's like, this. I said, man, I heard everything about you, man. He was like, yeah. I said, man, you was putting in that work legendary, man. He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, man, my sister had just passed him. Sorry, Lisa used to write me this style.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, look, when in my pocket, I pulled out like 20, 30,000 and say, yo, here you go. Oh, what? I could never hang out with you in my life. Wow. That was incredible.

Paid him to get, stay away from you. It's the first motherfucker that understood. As dumb as we can say, he's probably his. He's the first motherfucker that took the 30 grand and said, I understand, Joe. You change your life. I'll stay out the way. That's cool. He went and got shot the fuck up about a week later.

Like, this guy. And you lost a 30K. This guy was a magnet. No, I don't give a fuck. I'm just like, the guy was really my friend. Oh, wow. And he honored. Yeah, he honored.

I was hard to tell. Yo, he honored the declaration of independent. He was in jail. They was coming back like, yo, this guy is putting in work for y'all guys in jail. Somebody say something about bad Joe. It's over in there. So when he comes home, I'm like, yo, I can't hang out with you. No, you can't.

You can't bring that in your life. You're going to kill the old Madison Square Garden. I can't hang out with you. that. We got a local motive. We waiting for one to come home soon. A friend of mine, been in jail, what? 30 what?

37 years. I almost got locked up with it, but we waiting for a local motive to come. He's also getting the cash treatment. We cannot. But that was a long time ago. What is it now? It can't be 30K.

It's got to be more. It might be like 50,000. We send him money every fucking week for 37 years. But what I'm saying to you is, I cannot be with this guy. No, you can't. They know it. Yeah.

Good, good, good. There's a guy. No. No, you can't see the guy. They all know. I said, there's a guy. He's going to come in here. Talk to you like he runs this shit.

He probably might take any outfit he wants in the store. He'd do whatever the fuck he wants. Don't argue with the guy. Just call me up. I'm coming. And I'm going to come with a severance package. Beep, beep, beep. Your parachute.

Guess what my brother. I love you. I can not hang out with you. No, you can't. This got beat up so much. He got metal plates in the chest from the cops. You know, I had a friend like that when I was growing up. He used to do tapes of Kung Fu movies and sell them in Times Square.

And he had this cat living with him. And the cat took his, he was a drug addict. And he took his video recording machine that he copied the Kung Fu tapes on and sold it on the street for crack. And my friend, I'm not going to say his name. the dude with a lead pipe and murdered him. He had to go to jail. And then he used to write me all the time and wanted to meet up after he came out like years and years later. I was go, I was like, you know he's a murder.

Yeah, I'm like, we can't do. I mean, we just can't hang. I'm in a different lifestyle. I'm a different person. My whole life is going to a path of cleanliness, goodness. You know, that's not the path that I want to be a part of. And, you know, he turned Christian. He's a born-again Christian.

Good for him. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's good for him. Yeah, it's like, and I don't mean to disparage him at all. No. I'm just saying, you know, you come to. Yeah, I don't want to bring that into my life. No, no, the problem is, right, is that all of us came from somewhere,

and it was so hard to get to where we got and be legit and nobody. You don't want to make those kind of mistakes. To have somebody crazy to be hanging out with you. To put you in a position where you throw everything away from your, family, you know, like trying to keep it real. I'm done with keeping it real on that level. Absolutely. That's a smart move.

It's a smart move. Right and wrong, A.B. I got an uncle. I'll tell this last story and then we're going to cut. Okay? These motherfuckers, you're, you're fucking up. My vibe. Let me tell you something, this is a classic.

This is a fucking classic. We're number one for a reason. I know when we got one. Okay. My uncle was in jail since I was three years old. Another guy. Legend, legend, legend. He was stabbing motherfuckers in jail up to the wall.

Like, the killers I know were scared of him. He's one of the founding members of a crew called the Rat Hunters. Wow, never heard of them. You never heard of them. Whatever is that. The whole fucking New York State jail is the Rat Hunters. What did he? Was it 80s or 70s?

70s. 70s. So they got pictures of him all over my house and they're like, yo, that's Uncle Jaboo. You know, I know him well. And the guys who I respect are coming home from jail. They're like, yo, met your uncle there. Yo, that dude.

He helped me down. I was under his umbrella. These are dangerous guys. He's one of them guys. When you go up there to speak, he was one of them guys that dumb guys look at and be like, Jesus Christ. Like, that's your nephew?

Like, right? So he comes home from jail. My whole family called me. They say, y'all Jabu got home from jail. he wants to see you. I knew this day was coming, just like we got locomotive coming down soon, too. So I go in the car,

I pick him up in the job. I'm fat Joe, the rapper. I already shot the movie with John Legons. I'm going to call with him. He says, I know everything about you. Joey Krat, Farns, Parch, this, this, that. You did good, nephew. Everybody, he talked good about you in there.

This, this, that. You put in work, this is that. You see, I need you to take me to Newark, New Jersey. They got this and this and that for me. I said, you ever seen the car like when somebody dies in the car that it just crashes into shit?

It goes to the side. I never forget. I was on East Street. That gas station on East Street on by the car watch. That fucking car went like this. I said, I went in my pocket, I pulled out like $20,000.

I said, Uncle, I can't hang out with you. I'm so, so. He said, if you understand, I understand he takes the money, he gets out the car. He eventually became king king. He died, but he became king. Wow. He came home after 20-some years. I started seeing him in the clubs popping bottles, Benz's beamers outside, big ass out.

He, you know, he's the Ryan Hunter. He's not telling. They give him anything in the street. You understand what I'm saying? But that, that, that shit took two minutes. I said, here's how this is going to, But you carry a lot of cash in your pockets, bro. That shit makes me feel vulnerable.

It's $20,000 at a time? I got cash my whole life. It's fucked up because now they look at you like you're an alien if you pull out cash in the store. Nobody uses cash, bro. They don't even want cash. I'm in a gas station. I'm going to get a sugar-free rebel. They're like, no cash, no cash.

No cash. I'm like, what the fuck? They want a credit card. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Then he's on Hulu, Disney Plus. I'm watching to ignite.

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