The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - John Wall on NBA Slam Dunk GOATs, Wizards & Kentucky, Allen Iverson & Lil Wayne

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by former Washington Wizards star John Wall. Joe and Jada ask the former No. 1 NBA Draft pick about his legendary University of Kentucky team, being mentored by Gilbert Arenas on the Wizards, DeMarcus Cousins' viral incident in the Puerto Rican basketball league, growing up idolizing Philadelphia 76ers superstar Allen Iverson, listening to Lil Wayne's 'Tha Carter III' before games, playing Chicago Bulls star Derrick Rose as a rookie, and joining Amazon's NBA coverage this season alongside Dwyane Wade, Steve Nash, and Dirk Nowitzki. Wall talks about his NBA Slam Dunk Contest performance, why the biggest stars like LeBron James don't enter the contest, and where Vince Carter ranks in his all-time dunkers list. Joe and Jada share stories about witnessing Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant hooping at the iconic Rucker Park, Weezy demolishing Joe on DJ Khaled's "We Takin' Over," and watching Wall light up Madison Square Garden on Christmas. 3:00 - Joining Amazon's new NBA coverage 7:45 - His all-time great Kentucky team 12:00 - His legendary high school mixtape 22:30 - John Calipari's best advice 34:45 - Getting drafted #1 overall by the Wizards 40:30 - Playing MVP Rose as a rookie 42:00 - What's wrong with the Knicks? 49:00 - Why Nikola Jokic is so special 52:00 - Kobe & KD at the Rucker 59:00 - Top 5 PGs of his era 1:02:00 - Jada coaching Wall 1:06:30 - NBA Slam Dunk Contest 1:14:30 - Reparations for Allen Iverson 1:17:00 - Crazy Joe takes the wheel 1:30:00 - Joe isn't into the Dougie 1:34:00 - Lil Wayne COOKED Joe on "We Takin' Over" 1:38:00 - Michael Jordan as a commentator 1:42:00 - SGA best-dressed NBA player ever? 1:44:00 - Bol Bol & why fit matters [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by hardrock.bet Unforgettable stays in Miami Beach start at Fontainebleau, where elegant guest rooms and suites offer refined comfort, breathtaking views, and world-class service. BOOK NOW: https://www.fontainebleau.com/miamibeach/special-offers/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You know we love our people. Make some noise for John Wong. The ball weight. Now, before we even get into, life and basketball and things of that nature. You got a new venture. You're in the broadcasting work.

Make some noise for that. Nice bag. How is it? What can we expect? Is it still? I've seen you got your feet wet. This bad scene. I've seen you all over the two.

What can we expect this year, prime? What are you going to be doing? It's fine. I'm new studio analyst for Amazon Prime. Everybody know they took over. The NBA worked. they taking over.

I can't get ready to work, though. You're going to be in LA and Studio City in Culver City. I get to work with D.Way, Steve Nage, Adidas, Adam, Candace Parker, Dirt and Wissie, Blake, Griff, and Rudy Gay. So just being in a space where I get to talk basketball. I'm like, we love basketball. We get to see her and talk basketball.

But it's a little more professional than you is talking to your homeboys. But I get to be on the TV screen, and basically it's my next career. So I'm retired early this year. Not too long ago. Something I didn't want to do, but it was a private time, had the next chapter coming. and I'm taking the full head of steam.

That's a beautiful thing because a lot of athletes are when their retirement bell hits, you know, life starts to fuck up. The wife want to leave. You know, won't fucking start going crazy because they don't hear the roar of the crowd no more. Like, we lucky as artists because Smokey Robinson, them dudes performing that 80.

So we could always catch the roar of the crowd. When you are athlete and you retire, You got to be... You got to be... You got to be... They put them on the gym off. Yeah, but you know, they're used to this, shaking bait. So what is it like?

Would you scared? And I think it's great that you got this new... I know you want to stay around the game as long as you could. Yeah, for sure. I know you love ball. So I know you wasn't... He wasn't trying to push back. No.

It wasn't an easy decision, was it? It was bittersweet. You know, I mean, it's bitter sweet. I ain't happy at the same time, because I'm like, the last two years, I've been trying to get back. back in. I mean, you can't really control what God throw this or what light throw at you. So I was sitting back and joining the time of being around my kids.

But I'm like, I got to figure out what's next. And I had an opportunity to go do broadcasting for the G. Lee Showcase, which I never even thought about doing it. That ain't for me. They ain't in my next field. So the NBA TV call, we want you to do some games. I'm like, okay, cool. Then I started getting a little bit of buzz with them. I'm like, okay, this can be my next chapter.

I get to be around the game I love, still travel, go to arena, and studio and talk basketball. and then I get a call for Amazon Prime. Like, they won a sign me. Great call. So I'm like, all right, forget basketball. And they're like, I can still be around the game, but I just won't be on the court no more.

And I'm going to my way. I want to leave on my terms, you know what I mean? It's not leaving on my turn, but leaving on my terms of what's the next chapter for me. That's right. And Amazon Prime game, and I'm assuming to take that next step. That's a beautiful thing, man.

You know, that's how me and Kiss feel. We feel like this shit is like the TNT of hip-hop. Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neal. Like, we played the game, we know every aspect of the game. We don't have the bone-on-bone injuries. We don't have the torn ankles.

Yo, stop. The Euro step, the automatic. Who's your stepping? We're going to get, he got the Euro. He got the leg. The leg, like the... Yeah, yeah. Show him the Euro.

I got to get him. I'm going to get you. No. He got a professional. If he, look, look, He got the leg. You know how the hero is out. Then you go back.

He got the leg for the first part. The last step in here. I got the first step. If he could perfect, do the first leg, then lay it. He can kill us somewhere. Celebrity.

You should have to go same foot, same man, though. See what I'm saying? If you go like this, you just got to go like this. Ain't no going back over here. You got to stay. Well, you just got to go a good inside.

Growing up in North Carolina. The Hoot State. The who state? Who you was rooting for when you was growing up? Was you rooting for Duke or North Carolina? See the crazy part, I'm going to break it down to you. My mom grew up in NC State fan with Sydney Low and all of them back in the day. But me, I grew up a Carolina fan.

I love Carolina. Your Mons was going with Coach Valvano. Yeah, she was going with them, Sydney Low and all of them. So it's funny because he recruited me when I was in high school. Wow. And during that time, my mom had aneurys in my senior year. So I'm like, I'm staying close. the home.

You know what I mean? Then she got the surgery, got past there, and she was like, don't pick the school for me, do what's best for you. And I was glad that happened because I knew where I really wanted to be, but my mom is my best friend,

so I was going to be home. But Carolina's my school, though. I love watching Carolina. You landed in Kentucky with arguably one of the best teams ever to play college basketball for a way that your whole team was crazy.

What was that like? What was that? I know y'all had. I was like royalty on that kid. When you went in, say the first, when you went in, did you know that your team was like that? Did you know. Hell yeah.

You knew who everybody was on the team and you was like, oh, this is about to be crazy? Just, just, I'm going to break it down. Just me and DeMarcus cousins, we already knew what it was going to be. Then we bring him back Patrick Patterson, you know? So, like, he's being so special before that when he had Billy Lesby as his coach.

You mean, I took a visit there when I was in ninth grade. So I knew how good he was. I'm like, okay. Then I started watching Eric Bless and I had Demarge's because they played each other in Hotska. They both from Alabama. Like, all right, I knew how good John Hood was. He was from Kentucky.

And then after that, we just got on campus. And we just clicked, though. But Cal made us feel like a brotherhood, like a family, because we always had dinner at his house. We all were just hung together. Like, we really was me, bugging, he blacked, called him three amicos. We were together everywhere.

You couldn't separate us for nothing. And we really played pickup for, like, hours. Like, we're doing class at one. We played from three or seven. So, like, we really was hooping, hooping. Yeah. And coach would be up there in the office. and you know, somebody might get into it,

I'm closing the blonde. Y'all figured out. And that's how I went. So it was fun, though. It was exciting. We knew we could be good, but we didn't really know how great we was going to do

because at this time, people forget it was a lot of juniors and seniors still left in college basketball at that time. My year was the last year real two juniors and seniors. After that, it was like a lot of freshman and a lot of sophomores after that.

So it was exciting, it was fun. We was like rock stars, though. Yeah. You know? Yeah, I was like, fucking the biggest shit on the plant. It was crazy because, like,

I tell a lot of people, like, college basketball and had that much excitement until we came. Like, it was a drought at that time. Like, you had a team that was winning a championship team that was good. But we brought that excitement back. Like, every Saturday he won the series on CBS. That's a fact.

That's hot. You know, DeMarcus cousins, one of the saddest stories about basketball to me because of injury because, man, this guy was, this none, he can't do. No, for sure. I really love the Marcus cousin.

Like, I really used to watch him. He was like a, I felt like he was the street dude that made it. And then he had every move and he was tough. And then because of injury, you know, he went to Puerto Rico, he gave the dude the joints keep up. What, what did he did? He grabbed this shit, made him sniff that y'all.

Yeah. He went. He gave it and hit it. Yeah. Your kids, that's going on. I would never want to be the guy. That guy? whoever he did that too

that's forever that's like I know Puerto Rican that's like it's a lifetime as every Christmas some drunk cousin is going to be like yo he threw the shit in your face this now they can violate that guy forever in Puerto Rico

he'll never outlived the Demarchist cousins um boogie cousins who else was a trip that you played with throughout your career that was like like you be like oh my God this guy's a trip

When, no, we're going, you fast forward? Are we staying in college, or are we going to the league? Stay in college. I'm just, I'm just shooting. I don't even know the questions. I'm going on to you. But I say, I'm like, you know, I made the markets when we were 13 in nationals. Like, we met we were 13.

Like, I had just got my first dunk. He was skinny, but he had all the skills. Then we kind of went to a camp, like I went to LeBron camp. I don't know nobody. This is when I become number one in the country. So I walk in late. My plane getting in late, we late. And I'm like, all, you know, you get in lay, everybody on.

like he think he this shit. Like, I'm like, bro, I don't know. Nobody. I'm looking around like, damn. Boer, like, what up? What up? I'm like, I'm going to chill with Boog. So from that day four, we're like, we're going to go to college together.

Wow, that was fine. So I told him, but I was playing there. He wanted me go to UAB. I said, listen to a book. I ain't going to Alabama for no school. So then we started talking. He was going to Memphis. I was like, all right, man.

I called him like, yo, I ain't going about to go to Duke and I hung up on him. He called me like seven times. Like, bro, you better answer this damn phone. I was joking with him. I knew I was going to Kentucky, but he didn't know that, but we always wanted to go to school together, so that was easy for us to get the opportunity to do it. Man, that's a beautiful thing, man.

You was one of them. You knew from high school. Like, I heard about you all the way up in Iowa and Westchester. So what is it like? Is it a lot of pressure? Because you already knew you was going. All you had to do is pray. Don't get hurt.

And stay away from traffic. you was going to be in the league. Is it a lot of pressure? How is it to deal with that? It's crazy because I'm a skinny kid from Raleigh, North Carolina, so I wasn't even on the spot until my junior year. So now I'm like, usually you go to a prep school, like, O'Kill, one of those schools, and I'm like,

why would I leave? I'm the man at home. I want my family to be able to come to every game. So the most important thing for me, you know, like when you're around your neighborhood, they're going to make sure you're the guy to stay out of trouble. It's just up to me now. Don't do nothing stupid.

But there was a lot of pressure, but there wasn't no camera, it was no social media back then. So I didn't have to worry about nothing. Like you had to come see me to see what was really going on. You know what I mean? Then I go playing this one tournament

at the Bob Gibbons, and a guy named Webb-Werman shined to him. He's the reason why my mixtape was lit. He's a student of NC State and snuck into the Bob Gibbons. It's still a media pass. So he's filming the games, and he comes out with a mixtape.

My age, you coach, like, yo, you're going with us everywhere. We go from there on. So that's how you get to see the John Wall Mixed to be so late. But it was pressure, though, but for me, I'm like, I didn't care about the pressure because nobody, you had to come play me. Like, it was no, oh, I can go like this every day

and see everything I was doing. I wasn't under a microscope. It wasn't no cameras every day. You know, Steph Marbury, like a brother, he told me when he was a kid, like a kid, 10 years old, shit like that, white guys would come to the park and just sit in the stand and watch them. Like, is it really like that? Like, when they know that you were trialed,

prodigy and you most likely going to the league. At what age did you notice, like, strangers was watching you, like watching your game differently. That was basically my whole life since I was 11. I was averaging 40. My God.

But see, I was always small, though. I didn't grow to 6'1 until, like, my junior year. Did you always have them bunnies? No, I just had speed and handless. Like, A-I was my favorite player. So me going back and watching the commercial with y'all was lit to me. You know what I mean? So I'm like, I gotta be like, hey, y'all.

Like, I got to get the tass. I got to add the braids. But I just grew. So when I grew and I kept everything I had, it's like, okay, now instead of laughs, I'm dunking on your center. But see, you from New York, see, y'all got that park and go to, we didn't have that in North Carolina. We go to gyms and play. We didn't get to go to parks. And I wish we had like a ruckup park and all that. You go outside your neighborhood and play and everybody outside. But like, it took me to my junior year when my mom got mad because agents was coming to games. And I was like, I already told my mom and dad, like, before my dad passed when I was nine,

even if I didn't make the league, whatever I was going to do, I was going to college. So she was like, listen, y'all got to stop fucking coming to the games. Like, they're going to college. He told me, did Steph tell me, 10 years old, like, white guys just sitting outside of Cooney Island watching them play in the part. Like, they already knew, like, they know. But see, yeah, y'all, like, seeing you. Y'all got so much. Y'all can play anywhere, anytime.

Like, they're seeing it, you know what I mean? Like, they're watching what's really coming at before. me, you got like Jerry Stackhouse, Donna Williams, David West, you know what I mean, P.J. Tucker, those are the guys we seen. You know what I mean? Y'all got more and more names of the town when we was going later.

And the city is... Yeah, the city is more flooded. Yeah. See, I'll be honest, I tell you this, and a lot of people know this, I'll walk through the fire then before every high school game. Watching some bashing tear for a take. Now, imagine me, the shit I was doing a high school, having that type of ear's spin coming to my games.

You're right. Because I'm watching Bashie, like, damn. He got Jay Z here, Marra Shah. Everybody was doing. I'm like, this is lit. He's Stefan Marbury's his little cousin. Yes. So they all live in the building.

Yeah. And he had his little brother. Ethan. You go to 10 different apartments in the project building. It's his whole family on every floor. And Sebastian used to live there. We used to take him to eat foot. That's why he heard us so bad when he played for Jay Z and the,

And the Rocker used to feed him four chicken wings, french fries, me from the ghetto Chinese. You know where you got the little cousin? You're giving them fortune. Four chicken wings french fries? That guy broke my heart when he came out there with the rock. You know what that is? That was that's little cousin.

We used to give him Chinese food, hang out with him. Next thing you know, he came against us. We was like, oh, wow. It was going against Brooklyn, baby. He wasn't going against Jay-Z, but that's his cousin. Brooklyn. Okay, he was going to get his ass whip anyway. Who fuck with us, man?

You know what you was hearing about the Brucker games? You were saying about him down there, huh? Yeah, for sure. I played in League 24 the second year. Man, Lance Stevenson, my boy. Last play for me when he was 14. Born ready. Born ready, was giving him 40 points after.

Yeah, he was different. 14. He was just too crazy. He felt like a grown man doing 14. Yeah, he was dead nice. He started running the stairs and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm running out to start that.

Yeah. He's from over there too. Yeah, yeah, for sure. He went to Lincoln. Yeah, he wanted to link it. Yeah, he wanted to fight every game now. Like now. That's something. Like, I'll be honest,

like, not even try to go off the top of we're still and, like, go back to high school. We talk. We go to. City of, what we are? City of Palm. We take a photo shoot. slam my mom. You see it. I'm in my high school jersey.

He's purple. He got his Lincoln jersey on. We don't say a word to each other. Because, like, you know, he was number one at the time I come up. I'd be number one. We're not even cool. Like, he's not saying the word. We shoulder back to back just looking at the camera. Like, get this shit over with. Then we go to Steve Nash cabers in Jersey. He's not a point guard. He's a two guard.

He posted me at Kobe camp. He comes just to play against me. So he's bullying everybody. I'm like, you ain't going to bully me. Like, we're going to have to get into it. Now we're, like, we close his hair. Like, you can't separate it. but he respected me from not backing down from. A lot of people in our class was terrified. He was born ready. And I was like, I don't give a damn.

That's what makes you a legend, brother. You know what I'm saying? That's how we met. Man, we're cool his birthday a day before mine. His birthday was a fifth. Yeah, Lance, we just celebrated. But you wasn't with me in the killer party. He said, what the fuck you're doing in the killer party?

It was Spassu's birthday, man. Oh, they wasn't doing that new audition shit in there. They was. It was You know you had Homeboy Tut was in there Prince from the Supreme

All the legendary ganges In New York Was up in the party It was Lance Burke Your last Man he walked a fine line He He out

He in the streets And he ball Like he's He's always been like that Baby Yeah he's always been like that You know Born ready

Skinnerton Yeah the major accomplishments at Kentucky. National player of the year, got the Rupp Trophy, national freshman in the year, USBWA, Consensus First Team All-American,

SEC player of the year, Associated Press and Coaches, SEC tournament MVP, SEC Freshman of the Year. You fucking tore the SEC up. You knocked their head off. Boy, I was... What?

Did you have to? I had to go to class? Yeah, yeah, I definitely had to go to class for sure, kids. They definitely was taking your time. No, I'm telling you. No, no, no, no. It's getting me. I didn't say that.

No, I can say that. I'm going to be honest with you. No, let me say, let me say something. Different conferences is different. You feel me? They can run their conference every they want. Oh. We had a person come to our class.

Literally. Let's say class is the hour. If I leave with 59, with one minute left in the class and I'm not there. Oh, yeah, we got 20 suicides and 20 minutes. That's the suicide. That's our punishment at practice. But I don't got to run. I got to sit at half-court while my team run

because I fucked up. So we had to go to class. I had that military shit going on. Yeah, we had to. Same and private right. I put it in that work. Yeah, that's 3.5. I ain't fucking around.

I'm going back to get my business management degree. Talk slow to them. Talk slow to me. I ain't messing around. You know what I mean? Doing shit. Now, he liked to do it, though. You know what I'm doing shit.

I know. They came to me when I was starting all this trouble with my school. I ain't have a football team. They was like, yo, come down at school, play football when you give me four lunches. They try to convince me with the lunches.

They only got three lunches. When you get four? Four lunches. They was like, yo, bro, we know like your classes. They got you four lunches. They got robbed the whole gym in that era. I heard this story. I don't know if it's true.

I heard this story. Give me some more flat. I heard you have a lot. You got to tell me the true for that story. What? That era, that's the truth for the story. But what? Hold of them.

They were going to go into the robbery. I went there about four. What do you mean? They all. So I was causing so much trouble in the school. Morris High School, four trades. Morris High School had no football. Other schools was hearing.

I was bullying the school so much and getting in trouble. Coaches was coming to have football teams. Like, yo, you're a big boy. You could take your anger out on football. The only thing you could bribe me, with at that age is free lunch they're like

yo we give you four lunches whatever you want you can eat whatever you want this is that just come play football I'm like fuck then

I ain't going to play no football you know what I'm saying y'all can take your flags back you might have been a punner I'm telling you

you would have been a nose guard with the leg James getting there Jesus this James let me say to you

he's just Lord London legs man these guys Lloyd's in London these guys can't fuck with me man, you know what I'm saying?

I did rob the whole gym back. I'm telling you shit, dog. Y'all don't like it? It is what it is. Now. Everybody, give me your shit. How? Did Cal tell you to leave? I was already going.

He was out. Before I got there, listen, the funny story is, Kyle's like, don't leave by yourself. Like, what the hell you mean? Like, to take some guys who's, I'm like, how? Like, how? Like, I all knew I was good, but I didn't know what I was going to do college level.

A lot of people back home was like, he's going to do three, four years in school. Like, he ain't going to be one and done. I'm like, all right, we'll see, but shit. Watch that game against Carolina. The SEC and all that shit. I'm going to tell you two games where I knew like it was over with.

When I played Carolina, I couldn't wait to play them. You know, I mean, they had got Dexter strictly. You know, you're from Jersey with the same pass. Dad Larry Drew, and I was like, man, damn, they took these two guards. These are like the school I wanted to go to. I was like, I got to kill them. I'm back home.

I'm back home playing. I got to come. So we beat them. And I go to the guard and we play Kimber and then, Yukon. Draw them dice and I had like 14 of our last 15 points.

And every gym, every scouts at the game, I was like, yeah, I'm cool, I'm going. And Kyle was like, take some people with you. So I was like, all right, let's see.

What did you mean? Yeah, I want to, I didn't. I took four other guys with him. I'm the first. No, no, you took the test. No. Went to the classes for the test.

But you cheated some niggas on with you. Well, you must do. I ain't do with you. No, what happened was... You got him a spot, huh? What's my man? The Kimbo? The Kimba Batimbo, too.

The guy for fucking Milwaukee. Milwaukee. Janice. He got his brother on the team. Once did he call? He probably ain't scored one time. He made Montembo or what's up? No.

Rest of peace, Dekembo. Yonis. He called him seven name. What's his last name? What's his last name? Giannis. John is A D'Compo. He got his brother on there for free.

That's something we can't control. But listen, in college, you can't do that. You got to produce a little bit to get to the league. So what he was telling you to do? Take some guys with me, son. What? So let me tell you. You got to Markis cousin.

He thought he was going to do three years in school. He averaging the double-double. Okay, he goes top five. He bled didn't ever think about going to the NBA. He comes in. He's averaging 13 and 7, 13 and 5. He goes to the league. Patrick Patterson, he was already All-American.

You know he's going. Okay, that's four of us. The last guy. I was dang wrong. We didn't think we were going to come out the draft. You feel me?

But he had some personal problems that went on. He's like, he's not going back to school. He got picked it like the second and the last pick in the first round.

Now we're the first school to get five guys going to the first round. Wow. So he's totally means to take some guys with me. Well, listen, he said we had to play well

to win to get guys to go. That's the guy. And we was asked, ain't nobody going with. Yeah. Janis, John's brother on the team. When you're the friend,

you got to live you got power. So you could bring your brother on the team, right? You know, I think he took a couple, take a little bit of ends off, give that to him, make him a con. He made him a contract.

He brought you on championship winning to the piece of the league. No, no, I like that. I like what he did. I'm all about getting somebody in your family's job. I thought that's what he met. I thought he said, like, you, SEC, you number one, you all this,

take some of your boys with you. We're thinking, you got him on that. You got a thing. This is before that dumb. This is when school starts, before you even play a game. We know you want it done. We know that take some guys with you. He told you that before y'all even started?

Yeah. I'm like, what the hell? Like, what you mean? Like, explain. He was like, you good as you're supposed to be. Some guys are going to leave with you. I'm not expecting a few guys. He's a good guy.

He's a good guy. Cal is sure. I'm just saying, I don't expect four guys ago. I'm being thinking, like, the mark is in pack. He bled never thought about leaving. He thought he would come back to school. You said I'm saying? They always never thought about leaving.

So those two other guys that came into the picture that we... Now, I thought the Marcus was like... I feel like he could have been in... At his prime, I thought he was fast. He was too fast. What these bigs are doing now, he been had that. He just wasn't allowed to do it. Shoot three, he just wasn't allowed to do it now.

He just wasn't allowed to do it now. That's fast. So he was ahead of his time of where the game has involved. Yeah. Because he can pass, he can post up, he can score, he'll bully you. And he'd feel like he can bully you, though, with you.

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Now we asked. You know what? You ever had that chili bowl they got? You know what? Why don't we got to have food? Why don't it sound like Paul's something? You know what he won't? No.

The Mombos sauce. The Mombos sauce. Yo, yo, yo! That's just sound crazy. I'm talking about D.C. You're talking about being Chili Bowl. I never had the heart to get out the car and go get the chili bowl. But that should have been there for a little.

What? You're good. I didn't need it. You good. You could go. Oh, no, I know I could go. I just never wanted to go out there, Fat Joe, go get some chili and shit. You go get the cheese steak?

Why? You go get a chili? Bowl. I got to do it. You had the full wings with the fries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying

the chili bowl just sound like you're going straight to the bathroom no matter what. It sounds like automatic explosion.

You know what I'm saying? I got to stay away from shit like that. Now when you decide, now you have a killer freshman year, you decide you out. What's the,

what's the preparation for like after the tournament after all of the win? At the tournament, I was crying like a baby. The market is talking about, you're acting like a park. Let me know you're going on the world. What did you crying for?

I came to win in championship. I already know I'm only over eight months. I'm gone. So I stayed, finished the rest of the school year. I worked out with Rod strictly. Shout out Rod. Shout out the Rod. Oh, G. Rye.

He was doing workouts and stuff. Then I prepared myself. I had one meeting with wage. I didn't know who the fuck the talk to what's going on. I said my manager, you all control this. I said my managerial over on campus the next day. I was in one of the range. of at the time.

God dead. I get the ride around chemis and I moved to L.A. for the summer. Litting L.A. worked out repairing myself for the draft. That's how I went. You get drafted, number one. What the fuck is that like?

Is you got to throw your phone what's going on at the... Do they tell you? I already knew. Yeah. I knew. Since I was in high school, my senior, they're like you're going to more.

But now it was up to me to produce in college, you know what? mean, so let me get shout to Evan Turner. He had a hell of a year. I mean, he was a junior, but he had a hell of a year in college, too, you know what? So now it's like, all right, you got to watch the lottery. Like, who gets the pick?

Really, I'm thinking I'm about to go to Jersey. Jersey is the worst team in a league at a time. They pulled into one pick. They fall to three, and there's like Philly or D.C. Cool. I go to Philly, cool. That's my favorite player of all the time played. They get two.

I'm like, perfect. D.C. is cool as far from home, North Carolina. My dad from there. I'm like, all right, they like, you got to come work out. working at like 30 minutes out of my back hurt. I really was just tired to say it my back was her.

But I got drafted there and it was rare. Let me ask you a question. So you in D.C., you get drafted with all that club love and H-2O and all that shit. DC was a special place at that time.

Junkless City for real. Like, what was it like being focused and all this shit? This was like, yo, D.C. was really the most popping place at that time, if you talk about nightlife for club, that shit was out of control. My first two, three years, I ain't going nowhere.

You just catch me in a hooters right there in Chinatown. That's where I go out to practice. That's where I was watching all the game. I really didn't go outside like that. It took me to like my end of my third year, and I'm a homeboy who graduated college, came from college, and came up there, and I'm like, I'm young, single.

I'm adapted to the city now. I'm getting my motion to lead where I want to be in. Let's go have some fun. Whose rook was you? Give it Arenas Javel McGee Andre Blatch, Nick Young. What kind of shit do you got to do?

What did they make you? Carry bags. You got to add a snack bag. Somebody might call you like I had to have donuts in there in the morning before everybody get there in newspapers. Sometimes you might,

sometimes it might be three in the morning and you got to bust at eight. You got to keep your phone on ring. Hey, yo, boy, I need something. what you're going to say? You say, no, you might get tired of throwing into a co-tail.

That was part of the rules, huh? Yeah. All it was, is, like, as long as you can respect me as a man, don't have me doing nothing crazy, I do all the rookie duties. No walking in Brooklyn for cheese, Kay. Shit, you might have to.

That's your rookie duty. But you never know, like, KG said it one time because Avey Bradley came here, I mean, and he was like, he did so much for KJ and then, and he ended up having $120,000 extra. But they'll give you, You might be like, yo, three o'clock morning, go give me some donuts.

Here go $5,000 when I come back. You just never know what I mean? Well, you'd be one of the hard-haired rookies. Tires flat. Top corner of your call. What's the light skin do when he played for the fucking Knicks? Manjee Fields? Nice guy.

Around that time, not Landry Fields. But the other... He went to... Was he Jeffries or something? Jared Jeffries? He told me a story. I never forget. I had dinner with him.

He said, yo, he cast his first. check and made it all cash and put it in the bathtub. It was like laying on the shit. When he first got his big check in the NBA, yeah, he told me he took the money out the bank and put it in the tub and slept in the tub in the fucking in the million dollars to me. He was like, yo, Joe, I slept in that shit with all the money. I said, yo, this guy's fucking crazy.

There's some guys that to do that. You got some guys don't even want a bank account. they just want their cash. I'm like, y'all are crazy. Chuck used to have mad cash like that. Oh, yeah, AI. He used to have. Oh, yeah, AI.

He's stopping everywhere. He wouldn't go, hey, y'all is different. What's the, like, all right, so let's say you said, hey, I was your idol, right? What was it like getting on the court that first time? Prime time, the crowd's going crazy, and you look across the court, and it's Allen, Iverson, Bubba, Chuck,

and you got to play against him. What was that feeling like? You get the chills. Once the first play go by, you're like, fuck, it is what it is. Basketball now. But the first time, you're like, oh, shit, it's real.

Like, my first time playing Kobe, I was like, oh, shit. Kobe posts up, I block it shot. I run, go get out the ball. Come back at the ball, squirty, like, the play goes on. You're like, the play goes on. I'm like, fuck, Coke.

But, like, you know what I mean? Like, this isn't me. I'm like, I'm living out my dream. You know what I mean? But as long as I, after, like, the first play go by, I hold my own against them. I was straight.

And once you earn their respect, you like, okay, I belong. That's all it takes. Yeah, it was the guy. What was the little light skin guy? I think he played for Indiana. Point guard. He was just super fast, super nice.

I forget. Recently. Man, back in the day, around your time when you was playing. Nah. Little Likers. Monta Ellis? Monta Ellis. Yeah, yeah.

He used to be a Golden State. Monte Ellis. Now, he was cold. Man. It was cold. Yo, listen to me. me, kiss. The son is nice.

You remember when the guy, I remember when the karate guy kept trying to kick me in the face and I was going like this, and I catch a boom. And he kicked again and I go, it's like a split second of that. That guy, I would go see him play in the NBA and he was just so much faster than everybody.

Before I know if somebody's checking him, he's just floating to the bass. My take it's going to once. It's a different kind of speed. That guy had one of, am I correct? His feet is on another. up. He was fast. He was cold. No, no. He was fast. It was different.

You, him, Westbrook. He rose. Dean Rose. DeRose. Beer and Fox. Fox. Flying. He rose. You're going up against that? No, I can't promise. My rookie year is the MVP year. Wow. That's a bullshit.

So that's where he was going crazy. What? That's where he was going crazy. Yes. I mean, we played him in preseason, you know. It was cool because Coach Cowell came. I got a picture of the house. I'm like, yeah, it's going to be a lot of battles. It's got to play him four times.

So we assumed you was like, okay. That's the first time I said somebody was quicker than me. Because I've always been like faster, you know what? But he's quicker. I'm like, this is the first time somebody like, yeah, I got to. You could see it. Shit, you ain't got this shit. It's right there.

Like I scored by the time I turned around and play deities he, yeah, I'm right back. Let's go. Let's get to it. And he got a thing back then with Tibbs team. and you've seen it, Bishu and Brunship, they build their team around in to have a great defensive guy that's great role players,

and they point guard as they start. You know what I mean? All the Tim's team, they're point guard as they start. So, you got a long night. He's a professional. I've been watching all these teams. I can never, I'm looking at that,

and I couldn't assess that. I got worked at them. But we ain't got tips no. No, just how he was able to say. All his team, what do you think about that, that, that, that. That getting rid of teams after going to the playoffs deep

and then bringing in Mike Brown. What do you think about that move right there? I don't really understand a lot of times while coaches get fired when they go places they haven't been in a long time. But you got to look deeper inside. It's probably some of the players wanted or some in front office want.

That's what it kind of bored down to. And a lot of times people just sit back and don't say it and they stay behind the radar. You know what I mean? So like some, it could have been something turn it from the players or for an office, that they're not going to stand to the camera. So they let the GM do it.

So if I'm in a barbershop or I'm around the streets, I don't care if it's the white lady, it's in the hood, whatever, they all don't understand that. They just, no one says, yes, we got Mike Brown, Tim's just out of like nobody. Like if I say, how are we looking this year? Great, yo, but I don't know about what we did. Look, though.

Taylor Brunson, last two years, been amazing, right? but it goes back to what I was saying with D. Rose. He's a point guard. That's Tim's the show. Yeah, it's like Brian new coaches. He's going to lay him play the same way. Is he going to change the offense up? You know what I mean?

So, like, is he going to try to get everybody else more involved? You got to get everybody else in the show. In order to win, in order to go win a shift, you got to get everybody else. Yeah, but at the same time, is Jaylen Bruss is going to be okay with that. That's the fact. I mean, that hasn't that happened,

haven't that hasn't that been, like the problem with most super duper duper stars is like, you're giving up the rock or like the biggest thing, and shout out Mello, you just came back from the Hall of Fame with Mello. All right, congratulations. Mellow Man, man, salute. My man, Mello Man's such a beautiful career.

But the argument they kept acting, like as he was getting older, everybody was like, could he come off the bench? When he come on? Like, that was a whole, that was a thing. But to break it down, I don't think he should have came out of the bench. You just give him a different role. You know what I'm saying? He still could be a four-minute.

Like, he could be like a Kevin Durant to just, when they get closed, give me the ball in mid-post. You need a one-on-one buck. I'll get you that. You need to be a spider three-point shooter. I can do that. But you don't take a guy like that and be like, come on the bench.

Hell no. You might change his role and make him adjust a little bit. Like, all right, you might not be out of number one option. Couple less shots. Yeah, but it's cool. You know what I mean? But like... But you're just saying right now the future of our franchise depends on whether if or not.

If he switched out. Brown come in and switch the whole franchise guy. They're in trouble. The whole New York loves Jaylen Bruns. He's been the guy for y'all. And then I love him even more if he finds a way to win the chip. In my point, though, now it's okay that. But if I'm used to getting 25 shots a game, now you want to cut my shots to 12 to 15,

I got to be even more efficient. Because I'm like this, I get the news. I'm in the pool. And like, yo, we got Jordan Clarkson. Oh, I'm like, chomping up and down. My nephews are looking at me like, oh, you know they ain't going to get that boy to ball. I'm like, yo.

He's coming off the bench, though. But still this guy. He's going to him and doze me bride to like run the shoes. No, no, no. Nobody's going to do. Doose ain't going to do what Cox is going to do. Listen, let me say that. Jack.

He said on the second team come in. You have to get clocks in the ball. Hold on, let me explain something to you now. Listen to that. Now, Kat, right? When Jay and Bruns were to the bench, what cat do? It's Indiana game four or five. At like 20 and the fourth and won the game.

So now he might be like, okay, when Jaylon Buster's out, it's my show. So when the Jordan Clark's ever going to get the time to be his show? This is what we're saying. I'm agreeing with you. No, no, I'm agreeing with you. What they're going to have to do? We got a guy. You just got a way to see.

You just got a way to say Mike Brown do. We just got no firepower. Now we got somebody who's firepower. and the streets are saying, yo, Joe, he might not get the touches. See all the print's up. Like, in the day, we don't know what Simpson Mike Brown going to run.

You know why you got to listen to him? Until you see that, we can't see. You know what you got to listen. So, like, this is what I'd be saying to a lot of people that watch basketball, right? You might understand, like, he took 12 threes, right? Can he tell him the reason why? You're a fan just watching, right?

And I hear on TV and be like, he shot 12 threes. Like, give me the reason why. A lot of people can't explain the reason why. That's all he wanted to do is shoot threes. If I take 16 shots, 12 my shots is two threes. That's a whole new NBA. A lot of guys want to ask them.

Who are we talking about? No, I'm just saying. You was a fan watching, right? And I get on TV as an analyst and you want to know why he shot 12 or three. But I can't explain it until you can't like, I'm thinking the same thing you think. They just chucking them up. Yeah, but can you explain the reason why? I think the reason why is they trying to run it up, an extra point.

And now that's just become normal. I mean, this shit. This shit, you talk to the wrong guy. I coach six championships. That's cool. I'm boogie cousins in the fucking paint. That's cool. That's body to body, nigga.

No, I'm telling you what I'm doing. I'm telling you. This shit now, they got a three-on-one all fast breaking, and they step back and go. That's what trash. Why? Why? I can't tell you why that's the game.

No, it's not a game. Listen. Listen. You want the NBA and the fans. Hell. Listen. They want more points. The fans don't want no defense.

The fans don't want no defense. And they want to see a hundred. Turn into a side. Right, man. Turned into it. Turned into the same. I'm in to bring it. I'm in to win. I'm in to win. Y'all be Boston, right?

Game one, right? How many three they shoot that game? 10,000. That's the most threes ever shoot. They were shot. Listen, that's the most threes. And one in their game history. They miss 40.

That's two records broken, right? They can go get layups and mid-ranges. They had wide-up and lay-up and they shoot step back in take three. I'm like, bro. Yeah. But this is what the league won. coach you getting mad at you you don't take it. I want the down.

Man, you shoot the mid-range on certain teams? Come on, I'm saying. You want to bench. It's threes or live. That's what the league is involved in you now. Oh. But you see, look at the team that won championships the last couple years.

What did they shoot? Three. Outside of Boston. Go to the mid-ray. No, you got, you got, okay, see, see with it. What they're doing? Mid-range. They're doing.

What are you got, Jamal, Mary and Yokin. What are they going? Two-point. They're not shooting two-thru. Listen. All the one was with itself for that one year when they were shooting like, no, but you gotta get that's how you win the chip.

No, no, I'm sure. You do not win the chip, three-on-one break, go back and shoot a three, unless you carry a guarantee. You're not supposed to, you're not gonna win like that. I take the secure two-point, get back. Two-point, get back. Now, if I'm open for a three, shoot a three.

You shoot more threes, you make more threes. I've been in the coaches meet. Is you ever thinking of that? You shoot more, you make more. That's how they look. You just got to get to the point. If you off, like, okay, make an adjustment. Get to the rim.

You have to get to the adjustment. And the thing I have with coaching guys, and they wasn't NBA, but they could jump out the roof. A lot of these guys are just dumb. Just athletic and dumb. They're dumb athletic, but they will not fucking listen.

Dumb athletic, like, I used to run after the seventh time of telling them the same play. I would call a timeout and stand. I would stand there and be like, right here! He's coming here, shooting there. Can you stand here? And as soon as, in front of the whole park, embarrass him,

as soon as good old Dumbo go and stand there, we start blowing him out. A guy running the same place seven times. How do you let a guy do the same shit to you seven times in a row? Like when you see this, how why? IQ. Yeah. So I'm trying to tell you.

No, I'm agreeing with you. Like you just say, there's a lot of people that play basketball, but don't have no IQ. Smart guys win championships. Can't be a dummy. Listen to this one. Got 11 NBA scenes.

Right, look at Yoker. The Joker wins because you and DeMarcus and all your guys went to the same school. And y'all went to the same trainer. The Mark, the Joker. We didn't go to a damn same trainer. Listen to what I'm saying to you. Tell him.

Take A and you. All that. They teach you the do's. Listen, they teach you the do's, and they teach you the don'ts. And so you learn the game, some of y'all better than the other, but you learn the same ideology.

The Joker comes some fucking Serbian Montenegro or something. He's throwing passes across the course. Then no one validated that. And you're looking like, like what? He did that. And they score. He does everything you're not supposed to do. He's basically, he's saying they told them.

Yeah, I'm just going against... If the planet is going like this, he's going that way. In America, couldn't pass. Matthew Johnson been doing the passes. A bonus. Okay, certain guys were on the police. The bonus. Those overseas guys...

The ones are talking about the fathers. The father used to go to the past. No, the father was dying. You know, but who else? But you name are all overseas guys that they teach them how to pass the centers. What I'm trying to tell you is that the way they taught us how to play basketball over here. Yeah. It's totally different to the way that guy is playing ball.

He's doing shit that's not author or any coach. Now, they're more fundamental to us. It's not author. They're more fundamental. He's saying he's doing shit that's not author. Yeah, it's not author right. No, they're just more funerunctive. Who told him to do that?

Yeah, rest of peace, Colb, overseas is more fundamental. We grew up playing basketball at a park in 9-9-9-10. Playing one-on-one, playing outside all the time. Yo, that one. They learn how to play fundamental before they play five-on-five. I wish Kobe would have got. a full game off at the Rucker. You only got to play like half of one quarter

and scored maybe 14. I was there. You was at the game? Yeah, yeah. So you've seen him. Did I? Wow. What was that like?

Cope at the Ruckers? This shit was in the... I don't know. You're sitting there and used to... It's crazy. Because everybody... Everybody used to think he was clean, cut.

On the walk in. Now, I'm telling you. The whole park is just... It's like fucking... Electrify. Or you saw him grab the basketball. I seen him walking. I seen them.

Lay up and get busy. It was great. That was an ill summer, though. Garnet. I know. We was out there. We took the chip. Don't worry about that.

We took the chip out there. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is Kobe lacing up at the park. You see, a lot of guys, I brought NBA, I bought tons of NBA players out there. Some of them wasn't built for that. And they were, and they were like champs in the league. They were all stars. They were all stars.

A-I. A-I. I killed that. A-I was a perfect person for like that. That wouldn't even play D. But listen. Jamal Murray's nice, right? Halliburn's nice.

That's not their type of game to go out there and play in Rook-A-Part. It's not everybody game to play a street-ball. You got to have it. A lot of guys don't have that. They got a fundamental league game. Why people can't go out there and play? Jordan Clark's going out.

They have a field day. Who's the white boy from Seattle? Not the white boy. You're talking about a lot of Jason Wood. Don't know the light-skinned. the light-skinned black dude that he got hurt early from Seattle. He grew up in Seattle. Oh, Brandon Roy.

I didn't even come out there. But see, we're the fundamental game. He's killing it. But it ain't like the crowd ain't going to go o'clock. He's going to kill, but they ain't going to go over now. Like, Jamar Carver come there. Everybody's like, Sanimonia. You see him?

It's out there. I'm saying somebody can come in there and be like, I'm going to score because I'm a score, but it's not going to be electrifying. It's going to be fundamental. Top five. Unless you do like, we didn't have rock.

We ain't got to go down to here like six weeks. I'm not even commenting on that. I was there for that. I was there for that. Yes. Forget about that. Forget I don't want no beef for KD. Listen,

Katie's the greatest, he had the greatest performance of an NBA player at Walker Park ever in history. I was there. It was, it was, it was, they was throwing in the ball.

Jada, they was throwing in the ball, like, and the whole five guys was coming up to him. Yeah, they were trying to trap them, man. From across the street, water in the net. I never seen no shit like. And you don't sound like that is crazy. Yo! But not once.

Twice. It's like six times of a row. It was like, they was going, they was past, they was taking it out and just say two steps. It wasn't half caught either. Two steps. It was like, the whole team, the other team was going like this. But you know I didn't see outside.

Shooting that. You shoot like that outside at work because you really can shoot. Yeah, it's a problem. Big time. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name?

Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.

So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember I think it was on a call about what we should call it And we were thinking I'm originally calling it One of the early names of our band Before Jonas Brothers This is how you guys remember it going down Yes

I have a very different memory of this We were talking about a thing A bit for the podcast For people could call in and say hey Jonas And then I wrote down on my little notebook Hey Jonas And offered it up as a potential title For the podcast

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Russ. Rondo. There you go. That's my guy. People sleep on this guy. I don't know. Oh, no. It wasn't in too many years he did it, but Darren Williams.

No. Yeah. Darren Williams. He was a kill. Darren Williams. He was killing four nights. He slept on them. And I go.

Who? C.P. Oh, yeah. In that time. CP. But I tell you, let me tell you this. You bring that guy. I had a stress.

This is my rookie year. This is a stress of games. I got D. Rows. Rondo, now I go on the road. I got Darren Williams, Russ, and Steve Nash. This is Steve Nash is running around. Steve Nash was like, come on, who said this schedule of love?

He was like, y'all. You can't smoke a blood in a month to go play Steve Nash. All of them, who do you think cooked me the worst? Who? He's guests. Well, for y'all guess. Guess? I'm saying Steve Nash.

Steve Mad. Bitch won 10 for 10. But he's running around. He's the best. I'm like, boy, I ain't know where I got to keep chasing this.

Bro, let me tell you something. This is some. I stood. This is a BS. I stood when Tony Parker and I was the champs. He was a bad motherfucker too. I stood in his house with him. Right?

So I went over there. I was performing for something with the San Antonio Spurs. He was like, yo, stay at my house. He got them. This house was crazy. He's too rich. Yeah.

Right? But I watched him. I stood there for like two days and this guy wouldn't stop. practicing like when he was number one he had his own gym so they'd be like five in the morning they come he got practice

come back for two hours to eat breakfast practice then this did this he did this shit two days in the world I was like yo is this is fucking life that's your life he was not no that's your life oh so you was doing that yeah you look at to nowadays but people build gyms in their house now

no listen yo listen me that guy Tony Parker They had him. He's one more lick. They slept them guards of all time. Here's three beans. Here's an asparagus and go run something. Nah, they had this guy.

The regiment was out of fucking control with this. Dude, I'm sitting there. I'm like, yo, is this human life? They had this guy? Now, when you locked in, you locked in. Like, when you... Mill prep. You ever thought about meal prep?

Yeah, I know. I'm just trying to tell you I was there. And I was really shocked. Well, I had other. superstar NBA friends that were definitely not doing that. They might have been working out every day. They was getting drunk hanging out all night.

I see, Bell Hotel. When they were doing with it, Melo tell, hey, I. You're going to work out with me this summer? Chuck told him, work out. There's nothing I got to work on. I ain't work on. Silver ain't working.

That was nothing I got to work on. Now, you had you a highlight. You legendary in the Hall of, fame of ruckers coach. Oh, for sure. This is the maha, like the all-time life. During the lockout, remember? I coached.

C.P. called me to coach his team and Winston-Salem when y'all was having to run. And you should, look who's my team. You wasn't on, was you with my team? Let me see. I think I was. You had Melo team. Yeah.

You had Chris. I had mellow. He's going to have mellow. At mellow, C.P. The red. Pete the Bob. You, oh, look what my team was.

Mellow. Yeah, I remember that. C.P. John Walt. Steph, young Steph. He didn't even want to play. He was on the bench lap. He wasn't even playing,

bro. Steph, Katie. Rudy. Rudy. Rudy. Yeah. He was all on team.

And we played against Brian D. Kare. Kyrie. Oh, my. And we won. Yeah. I showed up late.

We won. Shit, with real. We called. Timeouts, I'm going to talk to my sisters. We're putting in sets. We fucking wash. That shit was ill, no, no, no. You wasn't there.

I shut the gym there. No, I wasn't dead. Him and Katie. I do the ball off the wall and windmilled it. Crazy. And then I went behind the back and Mello ran on the court. They all ran on the court. Jim went straight and shit was in.

It was over. That's my coaching highlight. It was lit. It was a lot of time. That was actually better than mine. Nah, you got years. No, but you had, you weren't. You wasn't playing.

You were misused. runs as a lockout you were scared. Because Lockout, you were in everywhere. They didn't want that smoke. Like, even the Goodman lead, that's a D.C. lead. They played at Barry Farm. We was going to play Jew League in L.A. And they came down there and played us.

Fire. They was going everywhere to play. Everybody was playing. You had to play games. You had to make up games because we know what's a lot of. You wanted to play six-six-s games. So we had to make-out, make-up games to go play. You know what's crazy is.

Unsung Hero to me, one of the greatest ballplayers of that era was Al Harrington. You're my boy, Al. Al, yes, sir. , Al got busy. And for some reason, they never wanted to give him that light or just like, you know, he was too good for what they wanted him for, right? That's another story, right? I don't know if they wanted to go a different direction and he was an older player. I don't know what it was with him.

But every game, no, no, he had a great career, but they could have just made him like the star focal point. They always made him like a support and cast. That's what I'm saying. But I'm not talking about that. What I'm talking about I used to go to these games Minnesink, right? And this Al

Mello, this, and the only way to describe this shit to you was like, you ever see them pool games like on ESPN where they don't miss and they win seven in a row

he keep hitting this side pocket this until he finally he messed up. The other guy come and his seven it like they're just too good. I used to watch

one-on-one games with Al Harrington Mello Zach Randolph and they would just Why they professes it's It's insane It's like the pool game that they can't miss the shit I used to sit there

I'd be like that who's gonna win This shit is crazy like You just don't miss I was cold though he was at his time too He was a stretch four that could shoot three He put the ball on the floor And he could be He finished his career almost with us in D.C.

Yeah he was one of my favorites Yeah he was a pocket Oh, that's crazy, man. But I'm saying I used to watch Pickup games like that with the NBA players. As I'm saying, a lot of people was coming to New York or they was going to be in L.A. at the time to play pickup a lot of time.

Oh, yeah, that was the point? Yeah, that was the points, yeah. So you would come from out of town and be like, yo, I know they're bowling up there. Let me go home. Wow. It's going down. Like in some of my first seven years in the league,

I lived in L.A., because it would be the Drew League. All you would be at Rico Hans at UCLA when you see the three courts. You start off in the middle, you lose. You go to the right. lose you on the third court. You got working way back up.

It's like 40 fucking big players in there going in there. That's ill. Wow. I never knew that. They never heard that. It'd be lit like the hell yeah. Oh shit. That's crazy.

What was it like winning the slim dunk contents? It was cool. It was amazing to me. I told him, I said, listen, the only way I get in, I got to make the All-Star game. Like, if I want to make the All-Star game, then I ain't playing a dunk contest. I'm a set. I'm not that year.

But that year, I had a hell of a year. Like, that's when I started to become like the star one to become a star. to win games. And I was like, oh, shit, I won a dunk contest. I'm lit. Now I got a little bonus. Let's go have some fun. Give them and send a bonus for your shoe deal.

You know what me? I always had a thing about, I never really wanted to go to award shows, even if they invited me, if I wasn't nominated for an award. I don't know why. It was just a thing. It's just like, why am I spending money to go there? Like, I can see this shit at home. Yeah, I just think, I'd be like, y'all.

I'm in it. Yo, when I'm nominated or something, I'm going to pull up. Like, I never understood. I would look at artists that I know and love and sitting there and they're not even nominated. I'm like, you what the fuck he's there for? Like, what are you doing watching everybody else win? It's shit. It's shit crazy.

Like, no, I never understood that shit. Maybe you were going there to socialize. I feel about the done contest now. What is it missing? What is the thing for me? I'm like, the stars, the stars got to be in. They probably feel like you, though. No, the stars are an All-Star game, though, you know what I mean?

Like, you want to see, like, come on, bro, you know, you want to see a John Moran. Zion Williamson, you know what I mean? Like, you want to see them. He said he ain't going unless he make it. Yeah. Like you. But he made the All-Star game. He ain't made it.

They didn't get me hurt. Zion. Say he ain't getting in the dunk. But, like, those, like, you know what? You got to think best if you have to make the All-Star. But when the other guy, he's like, he's like a baby Demarcous cousins. And meaning. It means what?

Yeah. Meaning what? He got out of this flag. No. No, I'm saying. Injury prone. No, no, no. So, there's...

Look, he never got hurt until he got New Orleans. So when he tore... That's what happens. Zion been hurt since... I get that. That's what I'm saying... I don't have been hurt since Duke. I get it.

What I'm saying to you is that Zion because he's been hurt... So perfectly healthy Zion, he don't make the All-Star game? That's... Perfect healthy Zion is... Fucking kill it. What he did the dump contest is what we're saying. Both of him and Josh said they wouldn't do it no matter what.

I think he's too big to be in the contest. Shit. Jamerang shit, everybody wanted to see that. No, Jamerang's great. I'm talking about Zion. When you used to watch, you had Kobe in there, you had Vince and Matt, Steve Frank. You had all the stars in it. And that's what we want to see.

It started with LeBron, who we call the king. Yeah, he should have been in it. When he started like, yo, I'm not doing it. That's when everybody else got. Well, I'll tell you one thing, though. A lot of guys will be in game, Dunker. they're not duck content dunkers. It's different.

Who's there? Now the spotlight is on you and you by yourself. Man, they got a little white boy. They got a little white boy busting their ass every year. He got the G. Lee. He and the G. Lee, they give him a 10-day contract.

And he comes to bust their ass. When you should have been a tie? That was air going as that was impeccable. Oh, no, no. That was crazy. They were doing some shit out. What? Well, the craziest shit was Vince Carter.

Come on. No, no. Fitzcarter was insane. That wasn't crazy. But Zach Levine? Jack Levin. The free-loon. that air going to get the spinach.

Come on, bro. No, no, no. We chart it. I see, this. But see, Vince was effective because nobody never seen it before. Vincent, that's what I'm trying to say. But now you go to these guys.

It's always the first. Yeah, that is. But shit, you ain't never seen anybody go between the left and a free throw on. No, no, no. But what I'm trying to tell you is, they always take one. They always take one.

He was a hell of a dunk. He used to juice. He was impeccable, but getting a dunk contest. Let me he was on the Knicks. He kept in the backbook. He was mad. I was like, come on. James, he knows you can do this.

I would say you do this plenty of time. We're in front of free-thil-law. I'm my other man, the dark-skinned dude, he ended up playing in, um, yo, he's out of against. Nah, I'm fried. No, I'm fried. Little-lis dude, that's fast.

The Dawkinson dude, but we know who he is. Who's the Dawkinson dude? He used to dunk his fucking ass off, man. Do you agree? Eli-skin. He's the dog-skinned. Oh, no, no, Dawkins. Oh, no, no, they was a motherfucker.

No, he was a motherfucker. Not on just boss thing. He was on a bunch of other teams. He was a big man. You know who I used to love Finley. Michael... I'm not talking about Michael Finley. Michael Finley's game.

He had two foot jump. I used to love his game. He got to look at Desmond. What's his name? Desmond, um, I would... No, Desmond. He was on it. Sonic's any.

Sal Mason. Yeah, Desmond Mason. I did his wedding. Yeah. Child down. Yeah, Jay Rich. Are you talking about Jay Rich? Are you talking about Jay Rich.

You got an anniversary? I'm talking about Jay Rich. You're talking about. Jay Rich? You're talking? Jay Rich. He's talking about. He was never on sports.

Played on Golden State. He didn't play his foot. He didn't play his foot. No, son got stupid bounce right now, high school. I'm positive. He won a dunk contest. He won a dunk contest at the Slip. Hey, Rich, man.

New York. Yo. Younger son. Yo, that nigga Jay Rich. He was a mind. He was a Monson, though. His son is doing that shit? He just, you could Google a YouTube,

and he just won a slam dunk contest. They had a runk apart. He was the ones. Crazy. Jay Rich? He might have more bouncing than his dad. I ain't going to lie.

More than his father? Oh, the shit, he was doing that dumb contest. I'm like, no way. The oldest son, you know, the oldest son was in Michigan State. Yeah, he's got to the magic. Matter of fact, Richardson's son plays with the boozes.

He goes to school with the boozeers. He goes to the guy in the Rockal numbers. He was a guy in the Rock. You remember the Wally Dickerson, the main event? Oh, Wiley, yeah. This guy, say the basket was here. right this is the basket in the air right this guy

would be over the shit like he could just fall asleep on the bed boom i've never seen nobody his dunks were equivalent to mike tyson not gonna do that when mike tyson went boom and the dude four that crowd every dunk was like wow like i'll be in the back i'd be like so i gotta see this shit like like like he was like if you felt like He was just tearing the rim off that. You were going to miss it back then,

and you had no deal with the shit. No, it ain't okay, but it's the rucka. I'm just saying you miss it, though. You missed it. Everybody's just telling you. You've seen that shit. You'd be like, no. Imagine I'm outside.

I'm outside talking to my team. We got the next game. And the fucking crowd is going. Bar fucking nannas. I'm like, yo, yo, yo. You know, we got to win. Yo, yo, I'm dying to see this guy. Dump.

But, you know, that's the best that camps of Air U games. You didn't get to the gym yet Or you're playing the other court And you just hit that muffled And they'd be like You know what the fuck That's that boy over there Like damn

I got to pause my game They can watch this That's crazy And Kim they used to stop games And just be like No we're gonna watch this game For real? They're done hell yeah

That's hell If somebody who's going crazy You know ABCC can They probably stop games When they used that ABCD camp up there Hell yeah When OJ and Lance is going at it Everybody's not to watch

Yeah I got to see this He got to ask you who OJ Mayo Oh, yeah. This one Lance was a freshman, right? I'm an eighth grader. I can't lie. I got to give it up to Sebastian.

I want a couple of those. They had the league in my hand. I seen him one day. I wish he had a little with the Louisville, though. He had a dude like a bobble head. Yo, one day a dude was checking him. I ain't going to lie to you. He had him with a bobble head.

The dude was checking him. The dude's head was like, yo, I'm looking for the crowd. He got the dude like the bobble. He had, like, I never pulling the back, boom, boom. He had, like, you know, when you got a sucker for a move, like,

you know you got him, you could just keep fucking he, he wasn't bobbleheadness. Did he was up there trying to deemize? Then Antonio Lane. Oh, man, dropped the time. He had him doing this. Like, I know I got you. You're on the roads.

Well, A.I. It wasn't fair for A.I. The whole thing wasn't fair. I was with Aya. Every day. Google that, guys. and let me tell you. The coats he was getting fine for was FJ560 coats.

I'm in Philly with A.I. A.I. was getting fine for his clothes. Every day, what, $15,000 for wearing street clothes? Yeah, they changed the dress code because they, you know. They changed the dress code because of A.I. A.I. They worked so much against this guy. Like, they were so, they hated A.I.

To be honest with you. They hated. they had a real guy like that in the league and they couldn't control him. And all the kids wanted to be. He played. He's the first time seeing a guy making from the hood that really did it the way he won the whole way.

So you're like, oh, this is possible. And they ain't like that. Then you got the rappers, man, so as y'all, this is definitely possible. I was with him. I don't smoke, I don't drink. The coach used to look at me side eyes all the time. Like, he swore with his fat joke.

He was like Brown. Yeah, it's not even Larry Brown. What's the owner? Oh, Pat Croce Oh, Pat Croce He straight up told me You know, I did the movie with him With Adam Sandler

That movie they filmed in a basketball movie Adam Sandler, right? With Adam Sandler But Pat Crouchy was one of the cameos like me Because in the movie we go to a funeral And he said, Fat Joe I said, I've been watching you I'm glad how your career ended up again

He said, I used to tell him Keep Chuck away from you This and that, you come to the games, This and I said, you know, Pat, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't get in trouble, I don't know why the fuck he was watching them from me. I'm actually the good guy.

They didn't want to got him with. He thought I was the guy. And I was over there, so was the motherfucker hanging out with them. You know what I'm saying? But yo, AI, man, you know, he did it his way. He told you, man. He said the trend, though.

Big trend. But now you look at it. Now you can dress any type of way. Like, you don't even, man. They don't give them credit. Now they fucking snoop the dress. Now they do the runway. Not the runway.

way. Fit check. Yeah, he's supposed to get. Right, here we go. Let me get the flag. Let me get the flag. The red one. Calling reparations for AI. AI got fined $15,000 a game for dressing. And now the NBA is showing SGA's outfit, everybody. Reparations. Money back for AI.

I'm calling that one. I like that. I'm saying there's a foul. He's going to fall on deaf ears, but I like. All right, well, you got to try. You know we got the number one podcast. in the game, bro. Number one.

Don't get it fucked up. We set the trends. We are the guys moving the needle, the culture. You know what I'm saying? Every day. Like, I've never seen guys getting punched in their face so much. Like, every episode of legend, a legend, a legend, a legend, a legend, a legend, a legend, a legend, a legend. Imagine you're going up against that.

Do you see it? You know, you never seen a podcast three months old where motherfucking got every legendary every motherfucker John War every day last night DJ Calladay before Ray Kwan and having to be like, it's disgusting out there. These guys are flabby and sick. They dated

that bullshit they're doing they're doing the fucking electric buggy right now. Niggas is fucked up out here. We're coming up in here on. Yo, I'm gonna let y'all know. I have to let them know. Don't think you got

don't think, I don't know what we're doing. I know what the fuck we're doing to you. We paralyzing you guys. You're switching your style. What my man said, what Jay-Cat, Jay-Z said, they jacking the slain.

Well, with Jay-Z in the record where he goes in, they're taking out style. They're jacking to slain. Or get your hands up. Whoa. Right now, right now, you got Joe Crack. You got top five dead or a lot. Joe Crack, tell the stories,

whether you think it's cap or not. But it's the most incredible. I'll talk to you about the Taliban. I met everybody. Okay, so they're sitting at home. They're like, yo, this guy crazy, right? But. He's saying that right now.

No, no. He already know what time it is. My thing is, those guys are right. Their podcast started today. They said they got somebody. Hey, how you doing? You've seen the weather? Your mother.

Yo, my man, all that shit is dinosaur shit. We change in the podcast game from now on. If you don't come with your shit and you don't talk that type of shit, I can't. It's like going back. It's like we watch, to the hip, hop, hibidivit. That's what the mother podcast look like right now. Mone fucking flabby and shit.

You know what's up. You're in the game. Shit going like this. Shit going like this. this. Motherfucking looking like, damn. Hey, I get it.

We humble. Don't for him. He keeps telling me, yo, stay humble. I don't know how to be humble, man. I've been on my shit since a 14.

Since a 14, I've been on some dapper, damn fly shit. Don't give a fuck. Don't care who. You know my number, you never, you ever knew what my number one?

My favorite. And now, because. What tweet? The friarca. Whom? Crazy Joe. This is the crazy Joe segment.

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You got a guest over here. He's destroyed. He's looking at it. at you, you don't know what the fuck is going on. And just went, you went, you got off the highway on the show. Well, who you came close to fighting?

It didn't you come back with that. Because I'm now, now I'm on some bullshit, so my adrenaline is on a number. What was you? What was you? I didn't know why it's done all the podcasts. I wouldn't know.

I was crazy. What kind of zone was you with? I was in a different zone, but I was pissed we lost. But I was in the zone, though. I was in a zone. Like you just getting that mode where, like you said,

said the basket just looked like the ocean. Dang, every shout-out. Is that true? Like, I ain't missing. Is that true? In the NBA game, it gotta be. Like, for me, like I always spend, people, I can go get buckets whenever,

but that wasn't, for my team to win, I had to get everybody involved. I mean, I wasn't have to be a scoring quarterback when I needed to. I could do it. But. I got to be honest with you, John. I literally prayed.

And pick up games. If you, if you're like, God, if you're real, let me get the back. get this big. Let me hit this shit 30 times to the world. I literally prayed. I didn't know if it was actually true. And pick up games,

I wish I could have just been like. I'm telling you. You know, with the highlight real. It never worked. We just had this talking about birthday dinner. It was like, what you average in the summer?

It's like, once in summer I was averaging like 70. Like he's like I couldn't miss. No matter where I played, he's like, who was in front of him were like, you're getting cooked. You're just seeing that. It's just here to a point. Like, no matter who in front of you,

just like the basket is like. Fucking. running. I'm saying like the basket. You're seeing that shit like this. You're seeing that shit like nobody. You're not even... You thought you hit the rim and the shit expanded and the shit went in the... Fuck it.

It's like a part-tune. This nigga today. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, Nick? Huge news. We created our own podcast called...

Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.

So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential. title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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I believe that people who played the game, their blood, sweat and tears, come up here and talk about when they're 13 years old, and now they got so much knowledge of the game. They played against Kobe Bryant, AI, this and that. Got something to say, that's what I'm talking about. When I look at these other podcasts, you see these motherfuckers never did shit in their life.

You know what I'm saying? Never rap, never played the game, never fucking gave out a flyer, never said, hi, I'm Fat Joe, and gave him a poster, or kiss the baby, or kiss somebody's ass to get his record played on the radio,

or fucking promoter sick Doberman pictures on you. I mean, you ain't get that in the NBA. No, no, no, we went to kissing babies. Like, you know, you got to... I said something else. What I said, kissing ass? You got to kiss an ass to get in the fucking up radio. I'm telling you a fact of life.

I believe you. The radio game is all possible. So you got to go over there. Imagine going up in there. Think of the biggest stars you ever seen in your life. They gotta walk in there and act like they like them people and kiss them. And hey, how you guys doing? You heard my new song.

These guys are billionaires. Say a guy like, I know he don't do it. But at once in his life he had to do it. Say a guy like Chris Brown, who's floating in the air right now with stadiums every day. He has had to go to the radio. Say, this is my new song. Please play it. Please play it.

You powerful people. You gods on the earth, can you play that? You have to play that game with these radio people like this. I had a song when number five in the country, man, I won't say his name because he supported me. You got to say some of these guys' names, man. We're in journalism. I can't say his name. What I'm going to say is this man, I wouldn't do it because the man did support me for 20 years straight.

The one record he didn't want to support. What the one, number one? If he went and told all his DJs, you know, feeling that. That's like Fat Joe telling the Terror Squad, y'all ain't feeling that. But him jumping on that call with them 40 DJs, I'm not really feeling this Fat Joe

record, but he supported me my whole life. So I would be a sucker if I start cursing him out or beefing with him because a man supported me on 40 records is the one record he took off. But I missed out on number one. The shit went number five. And he said, yo, man, give it a chance. The shit would have

number one in America. But this is the type of power they have. But that's just one aspect. But when I'm looking at podcasts and the guys, I don't know these guys. Who's these guys? Guys sitting there talking about this and this and that. And then I looked at one podcast.

What are you talking about? Because now I'm in the podcast. Yes, as good as mine. I don't even, I couldn't tell you the niggas name. Yo, I couldn't tell you his name if I wanted to is what I'm trying to tell you. But he's somebody. So the other day because, you know, I'm in, bro. I'm in the podcast world right now.

I believe. Like me and him. No, no. I'm doing the analytics. I'm doing this. I know what to win. I know what to do. I know what they're.

I'm studying this game. So I'm studying this one guy. He got a lot of juice where I was sitting there. He said, he said the other day and the interview, yeah, when we did this and this, I was like, oh, he did something. So I want to know what he did in the industry. I know Tatea kiss. I know Norie. I know.

I'm not, but what does this guy did? So now here, he was like, yeah, you know, when they try to come backstage, they this and I said, ah, he was down with dumb, I guess. That's he, because. Yeah, you got the notorious. I just seen recently when you came out and did the duggie. You said Gil gave some bread to do that? Now, don't do the ducky, bro.

No, he killed it. I'm against the ducky. I'm against, then that was 2010 and shit. That was cool. I was cool. No, let me tell you something. I came on here, kids always trying to defend y'all. I'm not with the basketball player

I'm not with LeBron James Being 40 years old doing That's done My man you're 40 years old Do a two-step do something Don't be I'm doing with Let me get that thing What you're doing?

Yo LeBron you gotta stop Hey yo You gotta stop You're a cockedies You're seven-foot dude Doing the shit The young dudes

Just doing it pointing it Like yo you got to stop What is the leg By the way, I'm old. Some of us got to realize that they're getting old, too. And you can't be doing the twins dance. Whatever the twins are doing on TikTok right now, LeBron J is not supposed to do that.

They're on TikTok. Right now. Me either. But what I'm telling you is I do see. Me either. I do see LeBron James. Why can't do whatever dancing one of you? I used to hate that shit.

I go in the club and start doing the dutty. Seven foot, though. Yeah. What's from with this guy? What kind of You keep me out of doggy niggies doing the doggy? What kind of music you listen to?

What kind of rap is you like? Don't do it. What was the music? What's your type of music for working out or what kind of did you warm up? I can't believe this. No one. Or he break dance.

Mine. Weezy. Wees. Not because you hear but you. I like dirt. I like Lundee. I like Lunderdt. Dirk.

Free smurk. Smirk, I listen to the future. No doubt, Pluto. Got to listen to you. My nephews, that's really it for real. That's five. Who's your nephews? Wallway, Bat, and Huawei Tugo.

Yeah, they young artists. Shout them out. Who did? Wallow and Pac, Wallow and Tuggo. They know about them. They just came home, so shout out there. They're about to get back in the music business. Oh, they just came home.

Yeah. Don't doubt, welcome on. Let's go. Send me something. God bless. So that's your guys. Yeah, my nephew. You love hip-hop.

No, no, nephews. You know, we got a, we got to. Yeah, I love music. listen to music all day. I think, so what would you listen to in the big game? Like, you're going to playoff. That way is it, man, my...

I'm going to call the three dedication, too. I'm locked in. That carter three changed by the... Like, that's all through, like, middle school, high school for me, so... You're in college, that's all I was listening to. Like, you're going to have a change this shit? Hell no. I had a black ultram on 10s.

That's all I was bumping. I think if I was a ball playing, I'm about to play a big game, I'm listening to some DMX or something. Yeah, I used to. Like I'm like, I want some shit. Bring it. Will you ride here? We ain't going anywhere.

We ride here. Like, I'm trying to listen to some shit like that. Yeah, I listen to like I'm me. And I'm me. You feel? Like, you're in my zone. Like, I'm here. No, I'm with the car to three.

I'm with everything Lil Wayne never did. In fact, Little Wayne, let's salute Wayne. Let's salute the game. Right? Because when you listen to traditional West Coast music, although Game could touch it, his sound has always been universal. It could be East Coast down, whatever.

Game got a sound that could go everywhere, right? And with Little Wayne, he was the first guy to come like really straight out the South. Of course you got Goody Mobb, you got Andre 3000, but that sounds like South music. This guy was rapping to like hardcore, beats but we're throwing

these flows on the shit it never been seen I'll tell you one little Wayne story we do the taking over with Calais

I thought I had everybody when you see crack better duck like the Mac gotta eat fat then what's sick I don't give fuck

I run it I thought I had everybody on the I heard everybody's verse no I don't think that all the time I'm not

I'm not denoo you know no I don't always think that I'm confident No, no, there's some times. It's going to be like that, but at a time being. I don't think I'm the best.

I make anthems. It is what it is. But that one record, I thought I had him, Kiss. And then we go, and I go with Charlie. He says, yo, come with me. Let's convince Wayne to get on the sweat. I said, no problem. We play it for Wayne.

Wayne is in the studio. He's not even in the big studio. He's upstairs in the hip factory, but upstairs. He got a room with just. Holy shit of speakers. He's up in there, and he plays the shit. He's staring at the speakers. He gets in the studio in the booth.

He crank it up. He goes, I am the beast. Feed me hip hop or feed me beats. I'm on Les on Easy Street. Why are less on Easy Street? I said, motherfucker, why did I bring talent over here? Beg this motherfucker to get on this record.

Like, I begged you to get. on New York. I don't know if you recall. Fat Joe begged you to get on New York and send you that beat. Little Wayne, I begged him to get on taking over. I'm telling you the truth. Okay. I got you. Remember. I don't recall. No, I'm just telling you. That's what happened. I'm telling you what happened. Same thing with Lil Wayne. I go over there, yo, we really need you wheezy. Hey, hey, you say, I am a beast. Feed me hip hop, feed me beats. I ain't on RAP on Diji Street. Why, I relaxed on easy street. I was like, I was like, I was crazy. I walk out of that fucking studio, dizzy by it.

No, it was, hello. You're thinking, oh, yeah, Joe, you know, you got to feel like you're the best. No, I walked out of them stairs. Like, fuck. Knowing I got destroyed on that shit. I'm walking down the stairs like, like, Gallo's like, yo, we got it.

You heard what he said? I'm like, fuck. out of here, bro. The motherfucker that destroyed my side like a motherfucker on this bitch. I thought I finally had these guys. He can't... Nah.

Nah. Little Wayne, he's different. We're taking over. Monta Ellis. He was a step ahead of everybody. I'm telling you guys, you look at him and he's at the basket beautifully, right?

Little Wayne, he was a step ahead. He was a little bit faster. He was a little, it was something to him where he dumb out. You like that too, but he dumb out. Like he'd just be like there and he ain't going to let go. He's like a pit bull. Once he got you and you're like, oh shit, he just won't stop.

He'll just keep doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on that shit. Come on, man. Man was taking beats. He was taking what, Jay-Z? What's the shit he did over the J-Z beat? When Lil Wayne did that, we didn't even know you could rhyme to that shit. With Jay-Z-B?

Oh, no, he did one of them. I don't know what it was. He did one of them shit's over so legendary, the Little Wayne on there. I didn't know you could rap like that on that beat. Like, we did, he heard that, listen, man, John Wall, man, we thank you for putting up with me, man.

When the season's start? October, 26, I think. Yep. I can't wait. Look out. He ready to see. He ready to be 24. It was all right.

Durden whiskey is, is commentator? Blake Griffin, Dirk. Me, Eudanis. He weighs, Steve Nash, Candace, Parker, and Rudy Gade. Now, we go. I love Candice Parker as an analyst. Rudy Gays always got guy, right? But where's him?

October 24th. When is... He's doing the next game? When is... Can't wait. Michael Jordan. commentating. You don't know the different network.

You don't know a different network. You don't know. That's NBC. If you're not analyzing, if you're not, if you're not talking, commentating that day, you're not watching MJ to see what he's saying

on that mind? What do you think MJ going to sound like? Could you do a personation of how MJ going to sound? No, I ain't got no real conversation. I don't even know. I know.

No, I do. But Jay to do too. I don't know what I'm saying. is what he's going to sound like. I don't think nobody can do an impersonation to MJ. We got to get Ari Spitz before the season is. He definitely will do the MJ. Eddie Spitz. If I could do MJ but not no analyst,

like we don't know what the hell he'll talk about. That's what I can't. Like, what you think Durk can talk about? I really don't know. I don't talk about Iso's at the elbow. You know, that's his bread and butter. So is at the hell. You got to see what else he going to talk about it.

Me, I can't wait to work with Steve Cash. New whiskey. I want to pick his brain. Dirk New whiskey. One of the greatest players ever. He was water from the three. His run was out of. No, no, he was out of.

I'm just saying his finals run. He was unconscious, Dirk, no, he was. He was unconscious Dirk in the Wigsden. When I used to play the 2K, I always played with Dirk. I'm saying the teams he went through when that finals was crazy. That run? Yes. He'd be old Miami, right?

Yeah. Yeah, but he had to get through the West first. Yeah, Dirk was in, Dirk is the unsunsons. Dirk is in the unsung hero. My favorite, my favorite follow forward of all time, Tim Duncan. And he didn't need to be Flash. He didn't need to be

Flash. He just got the job done. Big fundamental. Big fundamental got the job done all the time. But they had a squad and a system. Oh, no, they had. It was like the Patriots. What's my man? That's fair. What's my man? That's my man? No, no, the other one.

Boris Diaz? Nor, Boris Diaz was from Paris, too. And I? Oh, he's so good about Genobley started the shit You know what he started Argentina Argentina

You said Nobody's not thing Nobody started He was in Paris Oh my God I know I fucked up I fucked up I'm fucked up

Goberra's off Oh they're up man Oh they have man though We ain't those first Yo what's up with Rudy Goberts You don't rate them like that No comment Damn.

You've seen your band. Julius Wando just said he did great last year because he ain't smoked weed. He played sober. And he said, with the Knicks and all that, he was high every day.

And he was just in his own... He just said that. No, no, no, no. I'm telling you what I'm saying. I saw it. Well, look, you got to look like this, though. Some people can do it. Some people can't.

Some people can drink and go get you 30 every night. Everybody, body, different. I get it. That's a fat. No, I'm just saying like, so he probably, you're always with the smokers, man.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying, like, you got some people that can drink all night and don't get no rest, we're going to get your foretime, that's a day. Last year, Julius Swando. He said nothing,

because how about it me this year you have a garbage year? He's going to have a garbage year. He ain't never going to have a garbage year. Julius Swandu is a tough thing. I mean, it's like a D-Clun. Oh, he might, you know. That's my God.

I love the guy, but he brought up Rudy Gaubert. I thought about it because they're on the same team. What you think about my man Anthony Edwards? Killer. He has their old-school mentality. I ain't got no friends when I get between these four-marked. I care, who is out here? Yeah, I'm killing.

I just wish he could go to the basketball more, though, that's all. Too athletic, too fast. But with the league, they wanted to shoot 14-3 in the game. But him is nothing you can do with him. This guy has GA. Nice couple. You know what school he went to? That's facts.

best dress NBA player of all time SGA You can know you're wearing the red Nike shit grow like You gotta stop

Hey You know Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

Yeah Who's the best Dress NBA He played He played He only got He's frying

Niggas out there Like SGA's Get Wardrobe He's out of control

Fashion Week Every day He's All problem, SGA. Go now. Do me a favor. Yeah, I would wear that.

Yeah, I wear that. If it's fly, I'm going to wear it. He's cooking. He throw that shit on. No, no, he throw that super shit on. Some of something, I can't get jingy with something. That's wrong. The fact is something of that.

I can't do. I can't get jing with some. Yo, I don't think he, I really don't get what you're saying. Like, I don't think he can. Some of them guys that, now, he ain't wearing a skirt. I'm just asking a question. That's the problem. I'm telling you, he's not wearing a skirt.

I just said, I'm asking. Would you wear it for fashion? No, some of the rappers you just said was top five was wearing skirts and all that shit over there. The millions of those, you're talking to the wrong guy. Skirt. Trayman threw that shit on. He thought that earth.

He told that earth. He told me a lot. Throw back jerseys backwards. Nobody on the planet Earth, okay? Fuck ball players. Nobody on the planet Earth. You're talking about these guys in the world right now. SGA.

Top five. That's one. He must have sent you a package. No, he said me shit. He gave him the converses. No, he's no converse. SGA is throwing that shit on. Okay, cool.

I'm saying, name me four of the guy. You said, they put that shit. It's hard. I'm just saying, these guys really light years ahead of everybody. I'm trying to tell you. Other people they throw some shit on. He's going through that vintage shit.

He just. Ron throw that shit. I'll be having that shit on, too, Brown. The Bronth throw some good shit on. He got that SGA going that old vintage shit. Yeah, but SGA, he throw that shit. He doesn't get flies too. Sometimes they do too much, huh?

They care of Alexander Walker, he gets fly too. I don't know. That's his cousin. He didn't want to work. Oh, boy, throw that shit on. Yeah, boy, boy getting fly. He should be better. He is.

It's just a wrong situation, bro. Like, listen, let me explain something to you. It's all about where you get drafted and what teens fuck with you. One wrong situation in four years. He put you on. I've seen him his first place. I've seen him. I was like, oh, this guy's going to be.

It's just right situation, though. No, I'm like, listen, if you stop me watching Bull, boy, boy, I was like, yo, I was bragging to everybody. Oh, okay. You're about to be the man. I mean, three people right now. Who? see they're not getting their props

and in like two years, three years, they can explode. Are they playing right now? They're playing, but they're not. Look at ball. He's playing but not playing, but not playing. I think there's Garland to be underrated. John the Comiga underrated. Garland is like a loser, man. I'm just keeping it.

They just with no one team in the way. He fold all the time, man. He's not the one. He's not the one. Trust me. He's not the one. First of all, he's not no one guy on their team, though. No, Donovan Mitchell, dad, nice. We're not saying that, but shit, he don't phone it a couple of times, too.

Yeah, but Utah. He needs the whole team. Come on, you can't, you just, I ain't, I ain't going to blame Derr's Garland. He's the third best on their team. You go through Donovan Mitchell, then he goes to Evan Mobley, then it's Darrylind. You start with my first two guys? You think Garland is third? Who else?

I think he's second. Evan Mobley, they go-to guy the second option. So who else? Who you saying? He's talented. All right. It's a lot of people that fall, though. It ain't just you.

You got to get some help. Nah, it ain't just you. You're right. You're correct. So you ain't got the most unsung heroes who should be like... I get another, Jamar, Mary, underrated me. A lot of people don't give him his credit.

He should have been an all-star already on the West. He's another one ain't a dog. It ain't got to be a dog. Oh, you may marry. But I'm just saying... You may never be a star game, though. Oh, careful. Like, how I finish one of the...

I'm so used to my light-skirts. dude they used to play for Atlanta that they traded him. Oh, you're talking about, uh, what's his name? John Collins? Nah, John Collins was really good, but there's another

Likeskin kid they traded from Atlanta. No, they're like, he is like a star. He just ain't a merge. Like, I think his name is Murray. Oh, you're talking about the Jante Murray.

The Janté Murray. No, he's cold. Yeah, he's all right. But you got a thing, though. All right, let me find him. He's really talented. Can you take... I like Trey Youngerlite, right?

I like Trey Young a lot, right? Nice, right? Right? A lot of people always want to leave him in when they're playing with him. Nobody really wants to stay. He's nice, cold. Like, I feel like he's underrated,

but it's just some people don't like playing with him. He was killing with the Spurs. Not for nothing, Trey Young. He was the most underrated. He might be the most... He's killer. No, he definitely do that. I can't rule the dice that half-coran.

Yeah, he did that half-course shot. That shit. I ain't do that, man. He's a cook, y'all. He's a cook, y'all. I did a 360 layer boy, y'all. You was at the game probably, huh? Yeah, John.

It was Christmas. I know you was there. Listen. That was a good gift. Yeah, y'all got to come up with the pitcher, fat Joe, with the fucking Santa hat on with him score. He was doing the 360 layer. Man, we done got cooked so many times.

This shit. Especially on Christmas. You should buy tickets to get cooked. You like, yo, Kobe coming. He ain't going to drop 60 or 70? Like, that's what. My motherfuckers are going to see us get caught. This man.

Biggs get in another bag in the garden, though. It's a spotlight, bro. It's the mecca. I never forget. You dream. It's certain places like that. You go to L.A. You go to Miami.

You're like, I got to put on the show. But nine times of tens you're outside. Let me tell you something. And the mecca, their lights get dark? I'm friends. And you're on a stage. With a lot of NBA players. A lot of them, I've been.

their house. They don't like the Knicks. They don't like New York, but they all got a poster of the most they scored in New York. It's your Madison Square gone. I dropped 52. I dropped 43 this. I'm like, yo, bro, if you don't give a fuck about New York.

It's the Mecca. We ain't shit. Why you got the one poster when you drop 42 on us on your fucking wall? We have stayed the Mecca. Let's get ready for the season, y'all. Thank my brother John Wall for coming through. We appreciate you.

out for them on Amazon. It's all about Amazon, man. Check them out doing it. Happy birthday. Appreciate it. Happy belated to him. Happy birthday to our brother Rich. This ain't that.

That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. We want to thank our guest John Wolfe for coming through. We want to thank the Found Blue for a lot of the property. And we see y'all next week. Believe that, Wawa. What? Hey guys, it's us.

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Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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