The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Karl-Anthony Towns on Knicks offseason, Wolves & NBA journey, Dominican pride

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by New York Knicks superstar Karl-Anthony Towns. Joe and Jada ask the five-time NBA All-Star about the New York Knicks offseason, their run going through the Detroit Pistons and Boston Celtics to make the Eastern Conference Finals in the last year's NBA playoffs, the gut punch that came with losing to Tyrese Haliburton's Indiana Pacers, and how New York is looking going into this season with Mike Brown taking over for head coach Tom Thibodeau. They also discuss KAT's early years being mentored by Kevin Garnett on the Minnesota Timberwolves. KAT's legendary University of Kentucky college basketball squad, and why KAT is more motivated by gaining the respect of New York than money at this point in his NBA career. 5:00 - 38-1 Kentucky team 10:00 - Getting drafted No. 1 to Minnesota 15:30 - Rookie season & KG as a mentor 17:00 - Joe tries to compliment Guerschon Yabusele 21:30 - Mike Brown taking over for Thibs 24:45 - East is wide open w/ Tatum & Haliburton out 27:00 - Jadakiss calls out the refs for KAT 34:30 - His reaction to being traded to the Knicks 36:00 - KAT's girlfriend Jordyn Woods' fashion line 38:15 - Best big man three-point shooter ever? 42:00 - KAT credits his dad for his basketball gifts 47:00 - Avenging last year's loss to Pacers in ECF 49:30 - MSG & why there's nowhere like New York 51:30 - Love for Dominican Republic 56:00 - Joe's been KAT's biggest defender in NYC barber shops [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's a special reading. You know, my godfather was Dominican. For real? No, sir. What do you want me to do? I got to get a porta potty back here because I can't even make it to the bathroom down with you talk to shit, though. My godfather's a great man.

My father was a great man, rest of the peace, but my godfather, he filled in wherever my father didn't. Took me places in the Yankee games, and this shit took me to museums, and he lived in Dyckman, and that's how I became real tight with the Dominican culture. Only thing I hated, they used to make me eat the red, the beets.

Oh. What they call that in Spanish. It's even funny in Spanish, the beet salad. Dominicans eat the beet salad. I ain't ever had that. Shit, bro. That beats is good for you. That shit like poison, man.

SP talked to him. Beats is good. Beats. It's been, La Maria, some shit, man. Yo, that man used to force me. I used to damn near cry to eat. that shit. He's a great man,

so I always love Dominicans, man. Oh, call Anthony Town. That's Sersky. We had your brother on. Recently, we just interviewed your Big Blue Nation brother, John Wall.

Yes, sir. It was a great interview. Check that out. You know, I love ball, so I love basketball. No flags. I love, I'm basketball to the heart. I might ask you,

you can tell me to stop anytime. No, I just go out you, man, shit. Nah, not. 38 and 1. With the final four appearance. I know. One season of Kentucky, how was your experience?

How was Coach Cowell? How was the royalty? What was going on on campus? Let me know some of these things that... No, it's special. That place is special. It's crazy. I haven't had that kind of experience

with the fans appreciating game of basketball that way until, really, I got here. And Minnesota was great, but just the energy the city has for the game. You know, I grew up here and just noticing all that stuff. And I said it before, you know, playing and you work with the Goucho's gym and everything and always being around playing at Rucker Park 2 and everything. It was crazy to be able to kind of relive that kind of energy basketball again.

And I haven't had that kind of experiences until I got here. John Wohl also said he brought to our attention to college basketball had went dormant a little. It lost this fluidity a little to Kentucky. Cal started rolling y'all out. Like, y'all was celebrities. Like, y'all was real. People was running home.

Yeah. Catch the games. You don't want to miss. No games. No tournaments. He made y'all, it's like he evolutionized what was going on with the fab five. And they kind of paved the way. But when y'all got there, y'all was select.

I was like an NBA team in college. What is that like? I mean, we fell out rock stars there. You know, everywhere we went, you know, people noticed who we were. Then I had a view was the number one guy on the team where he was at the end of the bench. Everyone was rock stars. And, you know, the crazy stories being there and just seeing how the fans and interactions went, you know, March midnight madness was something like a movie. So it was crazy to have those kind of moments.

And especially with a team like that, you know, such a historical team. Fath. Cal always told us make sure we enjoy these moments because you'll never have that much talent in one room for basketball ever again.

That's crazy because your man, John Wall said the Cal told him, you know, make sure you take some guys in the peace with you. It was different for us. I mean, we had nine draft picks. You know, I think we had two.

They had five. First round. Yeah, they had five first round. He was like, yo, make sure you take some guys with you. And the people who didn't even go to the NBA on our team, that year ended up going to the NBA

the next year. So he's really I mean, that's a great thing, man. That's a story. That's a dream come true. Yeah. I mean, it's special. I mean, like he said, it's true. That was a key lesson for me, like in life. Even for last year, too, with our team, just staying in the present, enjoy this moment.

You know, don't worry about the future. Don't worry about everything that could come with this situation. Just enjoy being in the present because you're never going to get these moments back. You may never be in the same room again with these guys. He was young. Did you understand exactly what he was saying? I did.

I did. I was young. I didn't understand that. You know what? I was fortunate. I had experiences that had already told me to experience, to enjoy life in the present. With, you know, my uncle passing away and little things in life that, you know,

they just teach you, you know, it humbles you. It gives you experience. It makes you understand certain things. When you were younger, you think you know everything. And obviously, you get older and you're like, what hell was I think? Yeah. You know, so I had those moments already in life where.

where appreciating the present was a big key for me. You know, it's even like that now, right? Like, I got a friend of mine who doesn't need my advice, who's got more money than me, more success than everything. But I felt like I had to tell them some. Yeah. And that's really, really hard, even with the young kids, right? Yeah.

With the young rappers, people be like, yo, why don't you pull a young... I'm like, yo, bro, you got a young kid. There was... The odds was one out of every 20 million. he's rich now he made it happen how the hell I'm gonna tell him anything what to do

let alone another legend but I felt like I wasn't keeping it real if I didn't sit down and tell him yo look I'm gonna tell you something I want you to get mad at me I want this to mess up our relationship but if you don't see what I'm telling you now

in five years you'll understand because it happened to me people try to tell me stuff I'm like you know what they're talking about and five years later I'm sitting on a couch somewhere and I said, damn, he tried to put me on and I was in the way of myself. Yeah. So it's just so hard to

be in the moment and be present because sometimes when you overcome so many odds, like, you know, you fucking, you know, you cat. Like, who's going to be able to tell you something? Nah. You know? You got to listen to the legends, man. Yeah, yeah, hip-hop and culture,

y'all y'all paved the way for these, you know, the new guys to be able to rap that way, to be able to move that way to be able to wear the clothes they wear and stuff. So it's like you got to always listen to the legends. And for me in basketball, you know, KG was my vet. You're going to get into that. You know what I'm saying?

You can't get into the NBA with already have playing with Al Horford on the Dominican team, the Dominican team and stuff. But then now you're going on with Kay. So you had that bond ahead of time. I had more of the old school mentality of approaching work. You know, like you'd be the first one in the gym, the last one to leave, but in that time, it's about the quality.

It's not about just being able to say that. You know, people, you know, you can be the first one to the gym to do nothing until practice. And then after practice leave. So, you know, like actually utilizing that time, enjoy weightlifting, enjoying, you know, understanding diet, understanding, like, how to move as a professional, how to communicate with people, you know, never one of the things with KG was, like, calling everyone by their name, understanding the ref's names, you know, like, you know, treating men like men, you know.

not acting like you better than anybody and stuff like that. He taught me a lot. 2015, you drafted number one overall. We're going to take it back a little bit to the Miami-Temba walk. That sounds crazy now, man. That sounds crazy. Ten years ago. A decade. A decade. I'm blessed.

Yeah, I'm blessed. He told me, too. He's like, you're going to blink. Five years going to go by. You're going to blink again. You're going to be 10 years. Blink again. You're going to be like, why the hell am I still doing that?

So that's what they said. That's what he told you. How did it feel? You got drafted. you all they go, this is what I always wanted to know. You got to go. Next morning, you got to go to Minnesota?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, next morning. What that's how? Drafted. You drafted number one, whatever I had the after party from the draft at the Knickabacher. And then next morning I was out.

We're about from, was it Farmingdale? Left from Farmingdale straight to Minnesota. You know, no, no. No, no. You wouldn't know. No, no. There is no fluidity in Minnesota.

The boy, it's cold as fuck out. Minus 27 some days. This guy, Stefan Marbury, used to cry out there. He wanted to get to. Steph, probably could have won chips out there. He just got out of it. He couldn't take it. He even was going to quit the league.

Or, you know, he didn't want to be in Minnesota. Minnesota got great people and great fans. He wasn't used to it. Sometimes they drive underground. Sometimes it's so fucking cold or something. Oh, like in Minnesota, like, for instance. is downtown, they got like skyways so you don't actually have to walk outside.

Or like for downtown, the streets under the concrete is hot water circulating to help with the icy bitch. What do you have to do when you first get there? Is it basically the meet, see the facility? Right. When you land, when I landed there, a guy in a car went straight down to Target Center, but it was Lowe's and had your

press conference introducing yourself to the fans. So it was immediate. right away. I had a bad running with that. They had me introduce Kemba and the other guy he scored two points and shit. The Knicks is like, we want you to introduce. Welcome them to the Knicks.

I welcome them motherfucking. They do shit. We want you to introduce them. Yo, we got Kimber Walker. We got, who was it, 48 or something? Both of them ain't do shit. I'm sitting there like, yo, we're so happy they're here. Kimba, I love you, man.

Yo, Kimba, we love. You, don't do that. Don't do that. We just haven't to... He's supposed to represent. Kimball, I did, though. Both of them could score the ball, too, though. Yeah.

They really scored. He was Chad State. Whoa. He was banged up. Kimball Walker. Poor. Yeah. Injury, yes.

Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Yeah, we got to make some shirts. You, yo. Yeah.

Kimball was hurt. Yeah, yeah, he got some injuries. He had some detriment. That's not. That's not better than him. There's nothing better watching him in Yukon on the Big East, man. Kill, he killed. I remember, you remember that?

Oh, my God, against Pittsburgh, too. That was that old run, though. Yeah. It's mad to be. Your step back last year. That three point. Whoa. Wow.

You said, whoa. Whoa. I said, what the, ah. I got a classic pick. I put up with you and a spike right after that. Oh, yes, yes. Yes. It's in my house.

It's in my house. It's in my house. Go through your time for you. It's in my house right now. It's not ass spikes. You can tweak out of my fucking y'all? Yeah, I do. I do.

That was a legendary pick. Yeah. I definitely, it's so funny because I feel like rewatching that and you see me like in that mode, just aggression and just talk that. I was talking shit. That was like you had a spring on board post.

You burn that shit back. You threw that shit. You did. You ran to the fucking bitch. You was like, yeah. I was like. Oh, my God. Like, I was losing my mom.

You know, Jayda, could Jayde. Man, I love this basketball. I laugh. I laugh because I thought. You can speak out when it's basketball. I laughed because I was talking about it actually before I just came to the podcast. I was saying how, what the hell was I thinking? Because before that was the turnaround fade away going out of bounds.

And I said, you take one bad shot to go compounded with a worse shot. But for me in that moment, those felt like I was wide open. So. Basket was this big. Yeah, I felt that I had a good look at Baxter. You had to do that. That was that kind of amy. I mean, we needed to win, man.

We needed to win. I was, I was never planning to lose that game. That was hitting a pill. So I was not going to allow that to happen. Now, he played all 82 games. The 2015, 2016 season, average in 18.3 points. 10 and a half reband. Not a bad rookie year.

Yeah, that's just that's damn green. Greek numbers as a rook. What was it like? And what was KD? What kind of crazy shit was... KG was going crazy, man. I was with him on the team when he did the... When he called Eric Gordon Trash...

I was with... I was with... I was on the team on that one. KG don't give a fuck. Nah, I love that. We don't bring him up enough as one of the tough guys in the NBA. KG was tough.

I mean, like, he didn't give a fuck. Nah. You know what's cool about him, too? It was like a mentality. He did a bunch of rap in the face. No, I'm telling you. Who he went out of the way? I think, I think they almost fought.

He told him some crazy shit. KG told him. Like KG, KG, he's his own. Yeah. Bottom patrol, right? You motherfuckers. He said, he didn't even, he know what I'm talking about. He said, before you even remember, he just don't bottle patrol.

Don't even go down that one. Don't let your mind remind you. That was an ugly one, right? Oh, my God. KG's different, man. He's different. And you know what I was appreciating was like, his energy, you know, it went through the whole locker room,

just like the way he approached the game, the way he, you know, he played with so much passion, and it was cool. So do you have something like that? Who's that on the Knicks now? Who's that on the Knicks now that got that? Well, last year, I don't think y'all got him this year. Last year I seen, you know,

a coach at the bucket, you know? It takes a special qualification. Hey, I want everyone on camera to say everyone behind the camera and said, shh. Yeah. Yo, listen, it's hard to win them chips at the Ruckerbutt. It takes a special. It's almost a spiritual to wake everybody up and get everybody to win a championship.

I seen PJ Tucker trying that last year on the bench. Like, let's go. You know, he was at, who's the guy on the, the Knicks now currently that like let's go and I feel like PJ was great for us last year and like you said you saw him contribute to us

you know I think he's like a 20 years in NBA you know I'm hoping that we get to see him in NBA this year as well you know I you know us as a team having got a chance to get together yeah so I'm to see yeah you know I'm trying to say to see where the vibes are at so

I think that right now you know everyone's working on their game to bring their best version to the table so that we could... I like getting African chance. God. That just got Philadelphia. Oh, Gershaw? Oh, my name's African. He's not African. He is African.

Listen. Hell, I'll throw the flag. We even pick a flag. Just both of them. Listen, he's from Africa. We got to get you a list. So, can you Google where he's really from? Is he from Nigeria?

Ladies and gentlemen. I just told you I love the guy. I'm a fucking huge fan. Can't love him. I don't even know where it's from. He's not. All right. Can you, can you come?

Oh, he's Dominican? No, not the big Africa. You didn't know that? All flags for that. From the France? He's Dominican. You got another Dominican on the team. Did you know that shit?

No, he didn't. I thought he's just... You got the wrong guy. No, he... Gershawn. He's Dominican. Oh, we got to get him a list. Play that shit again.

He keeps describing people by the... You got it. My mail. In my mail. My mail. My mail. You know what I expected, man. From you.

I'm going to tell you right now what you need to do. I need all of these. I think you, I'm not telling you what to do with your money, right? But you should have like a foundation to sell a bunch of Dominicans every game and they're playing the fucking music up on the stairs. Dung-ch-a-junk-ch-a-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-a-ma. And they're just going to quit. It should be the call-air.

He's home. He's home. Home games at the next. I expected. that. I swear to God. Like, just me being a fan. You know, I grew up Washington night, so I know how you get

down. So I thought you was going to have, like, they was going to have a section up there, like, yo! Just go. Hey, yeah! All the fucking families immigrated from the Congo. He's from the Congo.

Oh, he's Dominican. Played salt. Yo, he said he was diminished. He's going with a joke, there. Let's do it. know the guys from Africa, bro. Why y'all trying to fake me out like that, man? Everybody's from Africa.

Yes. I fucking kiss. This thing is crazy with this shit. Well, I love this guy. This is a great podcast. How does Clarkson... You ask them to shit. He just told you they didn't see each other.

What are you thinking in your mind? Like, because... Scoring. Scoring. He's just going to say pure score. I mean, for show. What they say, he needs the ball. Some off the bench, though.

Yeah, you do. You do. We need, you always need firepower. And to expect, I think as, as fans, it's going to be, it's, and as players, just, you have to understand, you need firepower because you never know what's going to happen in the year. You know, you never know who's going to be healthy. You never know what's going to happen.

But if always, you got a backup plan. And you got people who are just as willing to start as anybody, I think. That's what's going to make a special. You know, you got it. You've got to be able to have those people. If you look at championship teams, you know, it's some of the times it's the ones that win you to championship are not the starting five.

It's that guy on the bench. Sean Livingston's the... The Panthers. Yeah, you're saying, you got a hell of a team over there. Andre. You got a hell of a team in Minnesota. Yeah. There's rumors.

Hold on. Let me get because you... Yo, I got it. You take the damn out. Listen to this. Let's cut the bullshit. You got long history with tips for Minnesota. Yeah.

All right over here. What's going on? That? I love when people ask me that, and I said, boy, I only been here six months, which you want me to say, but I just talked to Tim. He's good. We had dinner and everything.

It's politics, and they always seem to think they play. No, because in the music industry, if something happens with the executive, I don't have no fucking ideas going on. I've been here, I was here six months. I was with my man's. And Tim's is my man's, too. Each is on bottle patrol.

That's the answer. He's on a lot of patrol. It's like Pete in the... We knew your office. Listen, we just want to know. We're very concerned. You see us at his game. But not, but shout out to him, though.

You know, like, obviously, I was in Minnesota before I got here, but, like, watching him just do so many... I know what you mean? I met him before. Why are we doing this? I definitely... When he's your... Bring him up here.

Hello? Yeah, I know. That's a good one. Tim's was in my house before I was in my house. Huh? You see? I'm building I'm building

I'm in your house What you're peeing by that Before you was in your house What the polter geises going on me Worldwide West Lives lives across the street From my house As I was building my house

I didn't even live there yet Fucking West Gave Tim's a tour of my house Yo Joe's gonna put the marble bar in here He's going to just, Tim said, you better watch your neighbors. This man now took me in your house. Show them the blueprints. Show them the blueprints.

This is where we're going to have pool parties. And this, nah, man, yeah, let me say, coach Tibbs, amazing job. Amazing job with the Knicks. Tibbs came to New York, changed the culture. Changed the whole. Brought New York back to winning culture. Yeah, I got to the Eastern Conference Finals last year. And that's not just the players.

That's a testament to the coaching staff. He put in, and you got to give credit all around to those guys. You know, they put the work in, and they got us in a position and gave us a chance to succeed. So, Tibbs is special. I think anyone who knows basketball knows he special. I got nothing enough for tips. Shout out to Tims, man. He definitely got caught you up.

He don't smile with nobody and got pitch of smiling with him. Yeah, nah. With the coach. Nah, I used to love shit and watch him sit there and flip. Talking just go crazy, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Fuck. he's he walking back and forth cursing himself out in the fucking side. I'm like, yo, this is crazy, right? I love, I love tips, man. And, you know, like, you have any experience for Coach Brown? No, we ain't started. I haven't. Not yet.

Not yet. So, but I'm excited to get to work. You know, basketball's fun. You know, it's, I know, I know I say work and I say job, but it really is when you having fun and you're passionate, I think both of you, I know is legend. I haven't fun and passionate writing and making music and touring and stuff. it doesn't feel like work. It feels like a blessing.

You know, it's almost like a fucking Cinderella season for y'all now. Yeah. You know, and with no disrespect, a lot of major guys got injured. So you got Halliburton injured, the Star of Indiana. Tatum.

You got Tatum injured, the Star, Boston. Boston turned, I'd never see no shit like this. They don't want to trade it the whole team. Yeah. They did? Yeah.

Brazil. August is in Atlanta. Zingish. Orfford is out? Drew Hollford out? No, Horford. No, Horford's there. He's still there.

He's still there. Drew Holiday. Drew Holiday. And he got rid of the big guy. Presumians and Atlanta. No, the other thing. Oh, Cornette. Yeah.

They sent Cornett to this, right? But he sent Cornett to the Sparge or somewhere. So? How old is? Listen. What did that happen? I know, I know. I didn't know if they signed a.

back. You're already on. Four days ago? You call an African guy Dominican. You're off right now. He's going to the Golden State.

He's going to go to the State? That's a major picture. I told you all this. Dominican, man. I see him in the job during the NBA. Oh, no. That's something next. And he's solid.

And he's solid. You know, I never understood why like, players, young players don't abuse the older guys. Like, like, like, what? Hors again. Hey, we didn't even have to have to say.

Y'all know, I mean, like, to me, I can't move like I moved in I was 20 years old. I don't care how talented an older player is. You gotta stop. You gotta stop it. I can't move like I moved 20 years ago. So, like a guy like you

with no disrespect. Yeah. Like, I would think you should just go to the rack on Al Hoffa or they, It's just impossible. Hold on. I got to step down to her. I got to step in because I can't get fined in none of that.

There was, you, the playoffs, they was fouling the hell out of you, dog. I'm not, I'm used to that. Yo, dog, this last whole season, I don't know, was, they was, it was, it was, they was mad because he came to the city, and you had the whole city, but you got, they missed a lot of,

You was getting pushed off your, you know what I mean? You're a large human being so you can take a regular fat. He's extraordinary. He's an NBA player. Oh, boy. The serial glitzing, me. What? Listen, he jerked him on mad paws left.

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That's in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, and Virginia. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.

We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

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when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I was going to ask you a question, right?

And then he cut me off because he was sticking to the script, then he lost his mind too. The question is, you in Minnesota. Yeah. I was already hearing rumors that you coming to the Knicks. So was I.

Back when Donovan Mitchell was coming to the Knicks. I already heard call Anthony Tell. Right? Yeah. And so you in Minnesota and you, this is home, right? At any point you're saying to yourself, holy shit, I might be coming to the Knicks and you seeing what they're doing. Are you saying like, yo, I'll fit in. Did this be crazy?

I would be lying if I said I didn't see the rumors and know that there could be truth to them. So the idea of coming back home, playing for this well-documented, my favorite team growing up to watch. My dad had a quick and early stint with the organization back in the Patrick Ewing days. Fine. So it was kind of like, you know. You dad's the coolest he sits. Oh, man. He loved, he loved.

That's what I'm so much talking about that. Oh, he'd be there like, yo, I already know he's going to be so happy with his podcast. No, that's, we should have brought him here. They should have walked him. He should have walked. His dad was, his birthday was yesterday. Oh.

So it's going to be fun. Your dad's birthday was yesterday? Rich Flay's birthday was yesterday, too. Um, your girlfriend. Yeah. Very classy young lady. Uh, it's fashion week, and she posted the, she got a clothing.

line. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's stepping on the building. Yeah, yeah. This shit is crazy. Came through like Snoop and crushed the buildings. That's what I, that's what I came home to. That's what my daughter and Lou, you know,

they're doing this fashion week shit. Speaking of fashion, he'd be having, he, he throw that shit on too. He said SGA is the most fashionable NBA player ever. How did he say that? She ain't get fresh, but he, you made them ever. He made him of all time. Who do you, or you think the most fashionable?

Like, Dr. Jay. Oh. Dr. J. Come through with that shit on with cash men. With the shit.

Most iconic pictures. The most iconic picture is, was that Joe Namif with their fur? I was on Ladiah. I think for me, basketball-wise or fashion-wise, I think one of the most iconic photos are seeing Alan Irison's mom

doing his corn rolls on the bench. That's five. That was it. That's cold. We was there for a lap. Magic did it before. all Broadway, Joe, and he with Michael Jackson and all of them.

And what about that flick? Magic that was crazy. That flick with them. Joe, name is bald and shit for magic. He might have. You might have. He definitely did.

Flag in the back. He passed me the flag, man. What you think, man? Oh, shit. We did four podcasts and three days and shit. We've been. There you go. The biggest shit.

You're what? What? We been. Because, you know, I'm very competitive. Yeah. So if I get it, I got into the podcast world and be number one. You want to be number one.

You want to be the best? The best. I mean, but that's how y'all became legends. That's what y'all do. Yeah, I didn't stop at being good. It was like, I want to be great. I want to be all time. That's the thing.

We got a new job. It's called podcast. And boy, we're giving them hell. We've been having a good time up here, bro. And, uh, now, yeah, yeah, I take it over the podcast world. So shout out to you. But, yeah, I expect nothing. from the eyes.

Let's keep it on the court. You consider yourself the best big man three-point shooter ever. You won the, you won. You actually won the three-point shoot. Do you? Yes. No, for sure, without a doubt. You know, I went on Mello show.

Yeah. And said, you're the greatest offensive big man in the league of this time. And I caught a lot of, like, I was, like, arguing with the whole set. Yeah. And, you know, the Joker's dead nights. He's real. What do you think about the Joker? like when you look at his style of play

what makes him great and difference? Hall of Fame touch around the basket, being able to right hand hook, left hand hook off the backboard. Slows the game down. You know, he played, you know, I feel like, I know, not know basketball. So like, you know, his ability to control pace. He controls the team's pace.

You know, John Wall, what made him great when he became an all-star was his ability to change. pace when he stopped going 150 miles per hour and he was going to go 150 to go to 20 miles to go to 8 you know I'm trying so changing a pace yeah joker just he got a hall of fame touch he he's he's extremely smart his IQs through the roof he's able to pass he's able to control the pace the offensive scheme works with his his his greatest strengths and he has teammates that believe in him he has a coaching staff that believes in the organization that believes in him they put him in a position to succeed and he deserves that kind of respect

because he put the work and he's shown the world that he could do this on a nightly basis. Man, shout at the Joker, man. I mean, he rightfully got those MVPs he deserves him. You know what you? I went to one game and I watched you at least, at least. I want to exaggerate,

but I think the numbers I counted was like 10 different moves. This, yeah. Toreet, the fade of it, this, that, this. You got somebody like, what's my man, Donchavent, she'd do the same, hey, he's great at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he got that one move, right?

Mello had that one fadeaway. Melo had that step. But Mello had a triple threat. I was one of the best ever. No, no, no, no. But he really had that. Yeah, that step. Tyane is getting, no, it's lethal.

That's what I'm saying. But I watched this man, the reason why I made that statement and Ramello is, I've been watching basketball a long time. I never seen nobody have that variety of offense as a big man as you.

I appreciate that. So I'm sitting on the sideline with Tracy Morgan. You know, he's a bug out. He's a trick. Tracy been talking to me about the Knicks for how long. No, that boy's a tweaker for free.

We need Tracy Morgan on here because the man said, what IRISP said he looked like a, oh, yo, yo, yo, yo, each his own. Eat his own bottom patrol. Yo, he says so. But I've seen you bought so many moves that I was just like, yo, this guy's like really is unstoppable.

Because people always got one move, maybe two moves. Yeah. You got so many different. You got a bag. I'm a reactive player. I mean, I grew up in Jersey playing in the parks. Like I said, coming to New York, playing in a record park, gauchos.

You play with older kids. You're always like, you're 15. You're playing, you're 17. You know, you're playing. I was even younger than I. I was playing U. 16, you're 17, you know, my dad and I always believed, you know, if you want to be the best, you've got to go against the best. And when I was younger, never accept being good.

Like, yeah, I always wanted to chase greatness. So, you know, I wanted the best competition I could find in Tri-State, and I wanted to test my skills every single weekend. Who you saw played? You ever watched like a Kobe game or something like that? Like me, we used to watch wrestling. And have to wrestling with closed lines. Yeah, no, for sure. I grew up in that air, attitude air and all, yeah. Was you doing that like going out in the snow? Kobe fade away? Like, who was a player that you was?

You know, I say, you know, people, I was having this conversation the other day too. I love that. I get to talk about my life a little bit. But I was having this conversation funny enough for my girl. And I was saying, you know, sometimes in life you get lucky. Sometimes does God give it? And sometimes you just work so hard that you just garner that skill. and for some fortunate people

they get all three and they be able to have that mindset God and luck on their side and I was telling her I said for me I think I really had a in a way all three coincided with my career but I really believe that

it was really two things the two that I got really that I had in my possession was luck and I worked so hard to be this good and find a way to be great at my craft that I just had no option other than to plan A is plan A go for a team NBA player. But my luck came from my father because my father was a high school coach and one of the hardest things to do when you're young and you're broke is to have a gym. And my dad being a high school coach, I had keys to a hardwood floor that was

great, not like a hardwood floor that was like okay. I'm talking about a really good hardwood with the floor playing basketball. So I had somewhere to work on my craft. And I had a father that also was athletic and agile enough and talented enough, like I said, where he was able to rebound for me and also understand what I truly needed to do. And for me with the work aspect, you know, I had to show up. You know, as a young kid, too, I had to dedicate my childhood, my whole childhood. Like all the things other kids got to do and stuff and experience, I didn't get that chance

because I was in the gym and I was working. sacrifice, you know, and I was willing to do that. And at an early age, I remember even thinking about that, like, you know, maybe I want to go to that, you know, that party, obviously younger, like, party at whatever, maybe. I don't want to go to the park more, hang out with my friends. I was, you know, I was in the generation and still, you didn't know someone was home unless the bike was in front. You know, so I was still in that generation. So I dedicated my childhood to being great at sports and basketball and baseball is my love. the basketball.

And to have a hard rule core, I feel that that gave me a huge advantage on the competition. And it allowed me to work on all these moves. And I was riding back to the library, looking at getting the VHSs, putting it, the VHS in and watching, you know, the great play, Hakeem Ologeruan, getting to see, you know, KG, getting to see Sam Perkins for me.

You know, I was looking back in the day, Eddie Jones and Gary Payton and Pistopee. And I like just Magic Johnson, of course, So it was like one of those things where I dedicated my childhood to study in the game, you know, being part of the culture. I'm very similar. I'm not trying to put myself on your level.

But like this guy was born a rapper. Look, I don't think, if you ain't rap, what you was going to do? I mean, one of the best lyric says you guys. What are you going to do? So him, Eminem, JZ, pun. These guys was born with this shit. Yeah. I had to practice.

Shout out to pun, too. Would have been in pharmaceutical. rest of the beast, but I had to practice. And then it was a time where we was the hottest dudes in the world. I mean, the hottest dudes. I mean, I was here. I was the one. My mom would tell me, go get the radio, put the radio on.

You see what I'm saying? And we, and pun, who I signed, he was my student. I brought him in the game. He taught me how to rap better. And it's summertime and they're pulling up in the benches in the trucks. And they're like, yo, it's pop and be, yo, over here, this, this, that. Pump and be like, fuck that, we got a right. Yeah.

You got to work on your shit. And it's summertime, 90-something degrees. And they're pulling up, yo, we're going to pull up, Orchipech. Yo, it's on out there, this. And I shit ringing number one on the radio. And Pum was like, nah, fuck that. We're going to stay here.

You got to get better, bro. You got to get nice. You got to get this and this and that. And that was a big, yo, so many summers I sacrificed, you know, instead of going outside and join. Like, when you get a hit, this is the difference between maybe basketball and rap when you get a hit everybody's praying for it

you get a hit you go get the back you're even promoting that hit till it becomes a hit and then once it's a hit you go get the bag you can't stand in your name we can't go to diaper and be like lean back and watch the crowd it don't work like that you're busy going to get the check performing all over we don't get same with you you don't get that rush You don't get to stand there.

You can't go to yon because it'd be like, yeah, you're too busy running around the world. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was talking to my girl yesterday about this because, you know, shout out to her again. She had her New York Fashion Week event here in New York at the Knickerbocker. The photo shoot was fly. Yeah, nah, I'm super proud of her all the time. And I was telling her, I'm proud of her.

And I told her, she had her event early in a day. I went to work. I took care of business. Went to the event. And I told her, I said, I want you to enjoy today. enjoy the wins because the winds are short-lived

and the losses they last for a long time and I was telling her and she was like, what you mean? I was like, let's put her just an example for me in my life.

We beat Boston, New York's going crazy the excitement that. Never been to the roof. Never been like that. No. 25 years.

And police was letting them climb. Police, man, police was trying to do their job. They said, don't let's jump and let's go around

people and we're fans too. And they're not wrong. New York's not wrong. 25 years, you're supposed to have these celebrations, you're supposed to, you know, yearn for these moments. No, no, no, no, go. Go have fun.

This is the moment. This is what we work for. We work so the fans can have these moments. That shit was like a dream country. Literally. Everybody, it's the world against New York. So they was. So let New York have a moment of celebration then.

They deserve it, man. And I was, going back to the point, was saying that when we won, you know, of course, it was late night when we won, obviously. So you have that night, you know, a team got together, documented. We went out celebrated as a team with each other, but, you know, you got four hours.

We celebrate great job. But tomorrow is back to work. The win is four hours lived. Tomorrow's back to the work. You know what I'm trying to say? So it's four hours. I was in Dubai when you're lost. That shit was day.

So here we go. To that point, four hours, we got to celebrate that win. We right back to work tomorrow. Indiana playbook, you know, Tibbs is a, you know, he studies,

you know, he's like that. So we get these books, these, they write this tall, they talk about, yo, you got this play,

that play, this play, that play, that play. We're getting quiz and stuff. So it's full hours. You write back

to the next, to the next job. I said, but when we lost in Indiana, drag it, six months. Now we wait until September 22nd to go get back together

to try to remedy the mistake. You know, so I was telling her, enjoy these moments. It's in these wins because the winds are short-lived and the losses last a long time. I mean, we're in New York Knicks. Every game is a championship. Especially if you're playing at the garden.

Because everybody, we just, John Wall, everybody, you know how many NBA players I went to their house and they got the post up when they dropped 46 against the Knicks. I'm like, yo, you couldn't show the shit against Colby. Yeah. Brom, why got to be the Knicks that you scored 50 on and this and this and that? It's the garden brings a different energy. World most famous arena. Literally.

You're walking in there. Even if it's a bullshit game. You're walking in Madison Square gone. What that feel like? Walking in the attic. There ain't no bullshit games in NBA. Everyone's, you need every win. No, I agree.

But I'm just saying, what it feel like to you? Do you ever go there extra early and just look at all the time and be like you all the time? I'm there early every game. I'm there. Games at 7.30. I'm there. fall clock. I'm lifting.

I'm on the court. I remember I was there so early in the playoffs. You was doing sound chat. You remember I came out? I was listening. I decided to just see the performance. I was like in the game. I'm too locked in.

I'm not even going to be wanting to hear nothing else but basketball. So like every day I show up at the garden, I know there probably is going to be one kid, at least one kid, one family, one adult that spent a last money. got for themselves to go to a next game and they want to see their favorite players play. I want to show up every night and play. Right.

You know, because I know that there's someone there that put extra hours that they job in to spend their hard work money to go and watch us play, watch me play. And it could be nothing more disappointed than me not playing. I see you doing a lot in the community, a lot of business ventures. How important is it to give back? It's very important. I mean, this is, like you said, it's God gave me. the gift and as soon as I

discredit the gift, it'll take it away. So I got to, you know, pay forward. And the Dominican Republic doing a bunch of great work over there for the kids and everyone. Getting down with the A-Rod. You've been to that joint? No, I have not.

The Amania? No, I have not. What is that? What is it? Yo, I don't want to blow it up. Hey, y'all, yeah. It's a vacation spot. It's something like Mingo.

I know about that. That shit looked like Fiji Island. I went there. for Christmas for my family. It is beyond beautiful. Like it's like it's no way you thought on this side of the earth. There's something that beautiful. And I'm talking about Turks, this, that what you name them.

There's nothing that looks like that. Everybody goes to something to me and go on the other side. Or your man, Ewaude, I think he invested like $10 billion or something. Yeah. To make some cribs over there or something. That, what happened? No, I'm talking. I'm exaggerate.

Yo, how much... Google, Google two-time. Damn, the guy taking notes is fucking two-time felon. Yo, give... Hey, Rod, how much money invested in Santo Domingo, the new

resort? A billion dollars. Now, I know! No, it's fat Joe, dude. It's fat Joe, right? 10 billion, one billion, what's the difference? 10 billion, one billion, what you want me to do?

Like, but I'm pretty. creating the picture. You need to get with that. I promise you that's going to be a success out there. I need, I mean, I got you. Don't worry about that. But he's telling you what you're just like. We're saying that he's investing. Now, let me. Let me. I'm telling you

what's going to win. That is going to win. Yeah. That is going to win. The place is unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Phenomenal. Yeah. Three hours away. When you go there, you're going to be like, yo, this shit is great. But they

cost money. Money to go in there? What I will say, though, is for me, I'm not looking to make money in D.R. I'm looking to give money to D.R. Okay. You know? I'm trying to nurture the soil that's there.

I don't want to take anything from the soil. I want to take anything from our people. I want to give to our people. I want to give them the chance to have the resources. That's people in the world. There's nothing like Dominicans. The most fun, most given. Can we get this?

That's food. My mail on my mail. I'm a mail. You know, I got an Italian friend, Stevie Matarana, one of the best chefs in the world. He always goes, yo, cuz, who don't want to be Italian? I'm ready to say, yo, yo, yo, babitos. Who don't want to be Dominican?

I just, for me, God has given me the chance, and I always say, like, I appreciate the gift of this game and game of basketball and the life and luck I talked about earlier that I had. But money's not fulfilling to me anymore. When I was younger, it was always a chase of, like, Every young artist who bring up the bag, the money falling out. Like, I'm not fulfilled by that. You know, I don't need that anymore.

I'm fulfilled by, in New York, I always talk about it. It's the greatest currency you can get in New York. It's respect. And that's all I look for these days is just respect. That's all I need. You know, when that plane come back to New York, because, you know, I live in Miami and New York. When I go to Miami, I'm like, come on, everybody. What you do that?

That's what I'm thinking when that plane going down. But when I come in here and the shit coming down, I'm hearing thoon-thoon. There's a wall going out and outside. Nobody's safe from. You're looking at,

it just feels like the whole New York's a project building. You're looking out the plane, that shit going down. You're like, it's a different type of Teflon you've got to have. But when you big, when the kids got your post in Coney Island, in Bay Ridge, the youngest, in the Bronx,

in the Bronx, and the Harlem and the Lower East Side and Staten Island and they're all screaming your name. This is. Yeah. If you want to get popping, this is where you want to be popping.

Come on. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, family making ends meet, you know, people in a 200 square foot apartment, 500 square foot apartment, and they're willing to dedicate some of their wall space to have you on the wall. The love is...

That's respect. The love is unreal. And I argue with that. Everybody. Shout out to my man. Who he got first game? I argue with all the barbers, everybody. And Christmas game. I was arguing for you.

Yeah. Rich, was Rich player. His barber was dumb type. They traded Randall. I was like, yo, call Anthony Bair. And I love Randall. Yeah. Tough guy.

Love him and family. Salute them. But I was super excited and I started arguing with the whole barbers shop. And I'm like, yo, bro. And then when we went to the final was I'll FaceTime. I was like, what's up? Oh. Yo, you kind of was right.

This, this, I told you I was right. What do we got to do? Are we going to see a championship in New York City call? That's the plan. That's the plan. I ain't come here. I ain't coming to be good. It can't be great all time.

You got to be striving for greatness every day. There's a lot of guys try to get to close with no cigar. A lot of guys that's cool with being number two. A lot of guys, you telling me that the DNA and the mind set of the New York Knicks when they behind the scenes and y'all together to say, yo, we're going to win this championship? I mean, did not last year not prove that?

No, no. You know what I'm trying to say? Down 20 both times, game one and game two in Boston. You know what I'm trying to say? We never thought the game was over. I know everyone was ready at the house turning their TV to other channels watching other games. I don't know what they was watching.

The game was going. So, you know, I'm trying to say. Yeah, we are. Came is coming, baby. The first podcast I came in playing that shit for a while. What was that? That movie Money Train. The train is coming, baby.

He was like, yo, what's that? I was like, yo, the trade's coming. Yeah, I just, you just, you can't let anything cloud your mind of the vision you got. And there ain't been the time we didn't walk in there with having championship standards, you know. And obviously last year we came up short. He told him back what? 25 years in the making. and just to get to that point.

And now, you know, you got to work even harder to get to the next step. What day is the Cleveland? September 22nd. No, no, no, no, no. October 22nd. With that being said,

ladies and gentlemen, this ain't that. And that ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for our guests, and Carl Anthony Taylor. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Thank you. On another legendary episode of Joe and Jane. Whoa. Go! Hey, oh, hey, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, oh, hey. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.

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