The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Ne-Yo on new COUNTRY album, Beyoncé collabs, Michael Jackson & Prince stories
Episode Date: October 1, 2025Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by pop and R&B superstar Ne-Yo. Joe and Jada ask the three-time Grammy Award winner about his recent foray into the country music genre, writing "Irreplaceable" by ...Beyoncé and a slew of Rihanna records, his incredible stories with Michael Jackson and Prince, signing to Jay-Z's Def Jam after writing the smash hit "Let Me Love You" by Mario, why Brian McKnight and Boyz II Men made him take music serious, and his top five songwriters in music.3:30 - "Irreplaceable" by Beyoncé 5:30 - Ne-Yo brought a gift! 8:00 - Joe got finessed by Vegas Dave 11:30 - Jada saved the day for Ne-Yo in Jamaica 13:45 - Giving Brian McKnight his flowers 16:15 - Ne-Yo hung up on Michael Jackson 20:15 - Prince's approval changed everything for Ne-Yo 29:00 - When the label set Fat Joe up to fail 39:30 - Why it's HARD to pick the single 44:00 - How much do the Grammys mean? 46:30 - Joe is Joe-zempic for Halloween every year 54:00 - Ne-Yo's 4 girlfriends 58:00 - Fat Joe learns about Alaskan King Beds 1:01:45 - Top 5 songwriters of all time 1:04:15 - Fat Joe SWEARS he's cool with Babyface 1:09:00 - Ne-Yo PREMIERES "Simple Things" on Joe and Jada [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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He sees me,
puts his guitar down,
be lines through the crowd,
straight to me,
he comes on to me,
he says,
Libra Skill is a good album,
don't let nobody tell you different,
and walk, dog.
And from that moment,
I was like,
you know what?
I don't give a damn
what the critics say.
I don't care what nobody say.
Prince said it's good.
It's good.
I'm good.
Yo, what up, y'all?
This is Joe Crack to Dawn.
It's your boy, Jada.
You know what it is?
The Joe and Jada show
every show legendary, every show iconic,
and so forth and so on.
Ladies and gentlemen, today,
we want you to give it up for our brother,
triple threat artists, great human being.
I can keep going on for hours of the good characteristics
of this brother here.
Make some noise for my man, Neo!
Leo!
Love and respect, love and respect.
What's going on, yeah?
your first country artist
on the couch.
Because it's obvious...
Country inspired.
Country inspired.
I do that.
I feel like it's disrespectful
for me to call it a country album.
You got a fucking sombertoe on right now.
What are you fucking talking about?
Everything's connected.
So that's why I'm trying to like...
But you know, he ain't...
You know what...
They know what he do.
Got a platinum pin...
Yo, let's...
It's like... I didn't even want to look up
the stats, right?
Because it's just...
too much.
But if I looked into the, the Neo bag,
it would definitely end up at Beyonce.
Yeah, man.
You know, what's that like working with the queen
and penning something up for her?
Not only that, something iconic.
Yeah, man, that was, that's one of the ones.
I'll say this, though.
The session is sell them what the song is.
Talking about Beyonce is irreplaceable.
Yeah, that's, yeah, I'm still eating off that.
I still ain't spent all that.
Still ain't took that.
It's different.
But I'm used to going in the studio and having to kind of hold artist's hand, so to speak.
You know what I'm saying?
All right, here's the next note.
I here's the next part, do this part, do that part.
Man, I ain't ever felt so useless in my damn life working with me.
I say, she ain't need me for nothing.
I'm like, all right, I'm going to get some coffee.
You got it.
She got it.
She knocked that song out about an hour by herself.
Like, I wasn't needed.
I wasn't needed.
But I wasn't mad at it.
You've got country vibes to it.
I do.
I kind of wrote it like a country song.
Because when I first wrote it, it was no drums on.
It was just the guitar part.
So I kind of wrote it like a country song because I've always appreciated the country music.
Because it's like it's storytelling.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like you got to be clever with the lyric and country music.
So I always had an appreciation for that.
That's kind of why I'm doing the album that I'm doing.
Again, country inspired.
I don't feel like I can call it a country.
album in that I'm not a full-fledged country artist.
Like, I feel like that's disrespectful for the cast that's been doing that for years.
And here I come on some, yeah, I'm doing the country album.
Like, nah, it's inspired by all the things that I love about country music.
Yeah.
Come in soon.
Come in soon.
Real quick, real quick, I don't walk in nobody house without a gift.
Damn, we ain't got no.
I don't do that.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not.
Me being here.
Me being here.
Y'all having me here is the gift.
I appreciate that.
Shouts to my man, Vaughn Smith.
the name of the headline is
Circa
So we got some burros
So the gifts
That's love
You got no no guys
Oh that's hard
Yeah man
Yeah CERca is the name with the lines
My man Vaughn and it's part of the
Yeah
Put that thing together
So yeah
Just
That's your appreciation for having me on
I appreciate you
Oh you see the next way
That color
That's for fans
Who think we really gonna win
That shit not like that
They're like, you bole-
If you think the Knicks gonna win this shit, like, yo.
It's a little wave, you don't know.
I appreciate it, man.
Out of pride.
Appreciate you, I don't get nothing.
Really?
We don't get nothing, nothing for Father's Day.
We don't get shit for the, not even a fair socks.
What does a guy who has four wives or four girls,
do you receive a gift on Father's Day or birthday?
You know what?
I get gifts from my kids on Father's Day.
and that's enough.
I don't necessarily...
Do you get any...
We just...
But see, I don't need nothing.
We get Birkenbags,
all type of shit.
We get socks.
I don't even get that.
But see, I'm also...
I don't need a gift.
I don't even a good tube sock.
My father, man...
Slout across the Ford.
My father lasted 89 years.
He had this same complaint every year.
You know, I don't get shit.
I got to buy flowers,
chocolates, this.
My father,
Like, yo, I ain't get shit.
Why we can't get shit?
But?
But see, in my household, I don't have to lift a finger.
I don't got to cook.
I don't got to clean.
I don't got to do much and nothing in my house.
Because between my kids and my women, I don't.
Backed up.
I don't need no gifts.
That's like, I don't need.
I'll say, like, they sit throwing like ice cream on the floor.
You can eat that shit off the floor?
Spotless.
That shit is like a drive-through, drive-through.
That shit, like the shit.
You know the shit that are, they be marvellable.
The offices and shit,
that shit got to be crystal clear now.
Absolutely.
No, I'm good.
I don't need gifts.
Every day it's a gift in my crib.
I get it.
Now, me, I'm not going to lie to you.
Like these hats,
I swear to you, I'm going to wear it,
and I truly appreciate it,
because I don't get shit.
I'm being honest with you.
I don't get shit.
I don't.
Fat Joe don't get shit.
I'm being out.
You got any one of your, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm just, yeah.
What?
I'm just chilling, man.
We having a nice conversation in, man.
It's my God.
He's the bag.
When you're talking about the bag,
he's a very given person.
I shot a video on a level four.
He had these louis on him.
I'm like, yo, I like them.
He sent somebody and bought him to put.
You did the old, I liked them tricked, huh?
No, I wasn't.
He did the old, I liked him trick, huh?
I didn't even know him really.
He did the All I like him, trick.
He was really flexible.
I had dinner with this guy, right?
I had dinner with this guy, man.
He's a gambling expert.
What the fuck?
And you hit him with the Oopty-Wapty.
Nah, he hit me with the Uptiwopty.
I had these Newee Glass.
Them shit was like $5,000.
Some fly shit.
Every bite of the dinner.
He was like, man, them classes.
Really nice.
Every bite.
And I just kept this.
And I'm from the thing, like, if you compliment too much,
now it's almost like the mirror is going to crack.
Like I'm like, yo, give it to them or it's going to be bad luck.
I said these glasses, like 10 fucking tons.
I said, yo, here you go, brother.
Take them, man.
Enjoy the glasses.
It's not a problem.
This, I never find them glasses again.
Vegas Dave hustled me for my shit.
Yo, Vegas Dave, send the glasses back.
Vegas Dave.
Might send them back.
It works sometime.
Thank you for being the generous guy.
I'm always be that.
I'm always be there.
I feel like you got to be a blessing and receive a blessing.
By the way,
Cala spun me when we did the Caled
and I kept saying, can I get a loan?
That motherfucker never asked, you know?
We eat James Brown.
You're the king of the spin.
I just watched that episode.
James Brad.
They said a whole lot of nothing.
That motherfucker like the dragon from Graham of Thrones
without the fire coming out of his mouth.
I'm like, huh?
I'm looking at that shit because I got drunk.
I fucked up.
I got drunk with him and I don't drink.
And so it took me to see the shit to notice that I got spun.
Like, I'm fucking,
I'm like one of them loop.
new dolls. What's up? The new bellow shit.
I was a little... I'm fucking outy.
I was feeling a little nice.
But when you asking
that, he took us all the way
around Broward. He took us
him right. I'm trying
to get the man on record to say,
Yo, Joe, I don't need a long.
I just try to get him on record. He
ain't go for it. He spun me to death.
But yo, Neo, man, you got a country
album. You know, everything you
do is incredible. You know,
everything.
I had with you, we was in, uh, what, the Cayman Islands.
Yeah.
And I felt like, you know what I'm saying?
I was, I was watching you perform.
I was like, and you're also, my wife's favorite singer.
I have respect.
Right?
You know, my mom's and pops had just passed away around the time we were supposed to do our birthday.
You said you would do it.
Gizi's her favorite rapper.
He was coming to.
But, um, and she just went to see Gizi, but he didn't do the song with Neo.
She was pissed.
Uh-huh.
The joint y'all got together.
She was like, yo, he ain't do my song, man.
She said, yeah.
That shit right there.
How many times you do a show and they say you ain't do their song?
Oh, man.
Everybody's always.
Every kid.
Every's out here.
Somebody.
Like, why he didn't do this song that you never do?
Mind you, it wasn't a single, the fourth album cut.
Like, that's my favorite junk.
Why you ain't?
Man, listen.
Did you enjoy the show?
All right, leave me alone.
Damn, go on, no.
It's a lot.
It's a whole lot.
My last show with him.
We was in Jamaica.
Remember?
It's something happening.
I had to save the day for you.
You used my DJ.
We was out there for some.
It was one of those fessasas with a bunch of Jamaican artists.
And I had me and you and Buster was supposed to be there.
Remember he canceled?
I do.
We was in that.
Okay.
He was in there.
And they were like, yo, Neo, this band something happened?
Could he say, yeah, you can rock with me?
And that's how we brought.
Technician?
In Jamaica.
Technician?
Yeah, we used tech.
Yeah, you know when I...
You double-tipped him, huh?
That's tech.
He wore his fucking feet.
He said, hey, you know, tech's making.
Where you went to pay him, he said, two artists.
Listen, tech's Jamaica.
So he was living a life out there.
He had the chefs, the maids, he was eating, seven meals in the motherland.
Yeah, he was chill.
I just came back from Puerto Rico
I went to the Bad Bunny concert
Did you feel like Cali?
Like what?
No, no, no.
It was pheno.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't see.
I need the same in it.
No, it was what you want me to say?
I'm not going to do what Cali said.
It was an incredible show.
Super talented.
The fucking aesthetics was crazy.
The vibe and port.
When we landed on the plane,
they said, no, the pilot was like,
welcome to bad buddy.
and the whole plane went crazy.
Like that whole island,
I heard he generated like 700 million for the island.
And the whole theme of the show is based on like gentrification of Puerto Rico,
that grandmothers are selling their cribs.
And, you know, and so he brought all that money back to the economy.
It was really incredible.
You know, I've been drinking a lot, lady.
I drink in that motherfucker too.
I was saucy.
I technically was sourced.
Good time.
It's nice.
It's all right.
Yeah.
One of the things,
you know I got to drink a lot.
You know I got to drink like that.
That water, baby.
You already know you got.
But incredible, phenomenal show.
One of the greatest shows I've ever seen in my life.
And then the next day I snuck into that Brian McKnight show.
When's the last time you've seen Byrd Night before?
You've seen that man in a while.
He was in Puerto Rico?
Nah, he was in Jersey.
You see?
I snuck in the Englewood Theater on the low.
Well, you shot back right at the Ben,
Right back seeing Brian McKnight.
He was like, anytime.
To the head and on the reading out for me.
I would have loved this scene.
Yo, this guy like, where he's been at?
They've been at Hockham.
I don't know, but the only artist I've seen,
the only artist I've seen vocally sing like that in years was like Luther Vangor's.
This guy really scary.
Like, he sneaking, next time you, he's in the city,
you were just sneaking sit in the back.
You're going to be like, yo, this guy's fucking, he caught a body on Broadway, this guy.
Brian McNight.
That's Brian McNight.
Yeah, man, man, man.
I grew up on Brian McNight.
Brian McKnight, Boyston, man, that was kind of the era of music that I, like, really started taking music series.
I wanted to be Yenay Morris.
I want to be in the group.
You know what's crazy?
I'm watching Brian McKnight the whole time.
I'm saying, yo, this guy could have been in fucking boys to men.
The whole show, I'm watching.
I'm thinking, you know, my music.
whatever, you know how we, it's tapping my brain.
I'm like, yo, this guy could have been
a fucking fourth member of boys to men easily.
Like, yeah, man.
But that's the era.
The era when it was, he's a little bit older than boys.
Yeah, but what I'm saying is vocally,
vocally and aesthetically, this guy could have been in boys to men.
They did one joint together.
It was a Christmas joint, Lettuce Snow, whatever.
Lettis Snow.
Yeah, I guess the only joint they ever did together.
But that was a joint.
That's true.
That's crazy.
Who do you think you line up with?
Like if I just went to Neo Radio,
what other artists would they play on Neo Radio?
That's a good question.
Well, I don't know.
I don't know.
Not saying that I'm on some level that's above anybody else.
They're going to play some Michael Jackson on there?
I mean, definitely so.
Definitely play my inspirations.
Absolutely, yeah.
Mike, Prince, you know what I'm saying?
I grew up in Vegas, so, like, the rap act was a major,
major thing for me. So, like, you might hear
you might hear some old Sammy Davis
Jr. on that thing, something like that.
But yeah, the era where I, like, really started taking
music series was Boister Man,
Brian McKnight, uh,
Jodicey before, you know, Drew Hill
and all. And I was like, that whole
word. I really started, uh,
like, really started looking at like, I could do this
for a living. It was able to meet
MJ, right? Yeah, yeah. How was
that? Man, Mike, it was,
it was weird. It was cool, but it was weird.
Because it's like, so, mind you,
when they first set up the meeting
my assistant was supposed to call me
before Mike called me to let me know the Mike
that somebody gave Mike my number
and he was going to call me. But Mike actually called me first.
So when I picked up the phone
and the carous, hey, we're doing that?
This is Michael Jackson. I hung up immediately
because I thought somebody was.
What happened to me four times today? The bank kept calling
from 855. I'm like, yo, bit, bit, bit.
I'm next to my wife, the bits keep saying hi.
This is Jana. I'm like, yo,
don't we calling this fucking.
right now. I don't need no mishaps.
It's me from TD Bank. I'm like, well, why you
ain't say that shit? You call it from my A55?
Believe it with your first name. Hold on,
no, not. No. Not doing that. Who's that?
Don't know. William. So I hung up and then
my assistant called me like, yo, are you sitting down? Yeah, I'm something now.
Michael Jackson, about to call you in 10 minutes. I'm like, naga Michael Jackson
called me 10 minutes ago and I hung up in his fit. You almost fired. You
almost fired. You wanted to die.
I brought him up on Michael Jackson.
Oh, my God.
So anyway, so we got back on the phone.
Did you apologize? No, I lied right away.
I lied. I'm like, yeah, it was a bad reception, bro.
I was dropping under bridge and the joint just dropped.
He sounded like Michael Jackson.
He sounded like, hey, how you doing?
I'm good. Who is this?
It's Michael. Michael. Who?
Michael Jackson?
Ah, cool, click.
Nah.
And then when you spoke to you.
How Michael Jackson is called him?
Michael Jackson.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So first, I didn't know Mike was tall.
Mike was like 6-2, 6-3.
I didn't know that either.
Or maybe he was tall in my head.
I don't know.
When he walked in the room, the nigg was 10 feet tall when he walked in the room.
He got on a black suit.
He had on aviator sunglasses that was mirrored that he didn't take off the whole time.
We was there for like an hour.
He did not take the glasses off the whole time.
And we sat, we talked about music.
When he first walked in the room, he said, oh, my God, you know my favorite song of yours is?
And I'm like, favorite song of mine.
Do you know what fuck?
That's what.
Favorite song of mine.
That's nuts.
It was nuts.
It was nuts.
But what was his favorite song of yours?
Go on, girl.
Please don't worry about me, I'm fine.
Adjoint.
And he sang it, and I turned it to a 12-year-old girl instantly.
I kept it in, though.
I kept a G.
I'm like, that's dope.
No, no, I cry.
You know, Michael Jackson, I probably, he's one of the guys.
If Michael Jackson walked in here,
I was going to ask him, did he drop his flag?
You know, they say Michael was a gang member.
I don't know if he dropped his flag.
before he met you or not.
He kept right.
Some people say
I've heard things.
Michael Jackson was a gang.
He said Michael from the 60s, right?
You don't say he was a gang member.
No, another flag.
I need proof.
It's a picture floating around him doing something.
Yes.
I've seen it.
Yo, let me tell you something.
I would have cried if I would have met Michael Jackson.
He's the one.
guy would have cried. Like I just, I
ain't going to lie to you. It's like
he was from out of another
another. Yeah, man. Like he was other
like, never be another.
Never be another. People said,
that's my favorite, my favorite. It's different. You see
Michael Jackson. Man, listen. You fucking want to die.
You see, and so you work with him. I am in front of Michael Jackson
and can't nobody even make fun of you.
It's like, it's Michael Jackson. How you don't,
like, I kept, I kept your life,
you crying from the mic. The only
reason I did, guys, because I felt like,
I, he probably get this all the time.
let me try to, let me try to, let me try to, my composure.
But it was cool.
We said, I talked about music.
We, uh, we actually started working on some stuff that he was supposed to record after the, uh, the This Is It tour was old.
You know, he passed before we got a chance to do it.
So, you know, about Prince.
Prince, man.
So Prince saved my life.
And I, he don't, he don't realize.
Wow.
But, uh, so after, year the gentleman was like my best, my best, my best seller album,
won Grammys for that album.
And then right after that, we did Lieber scale.
Right.
Lieber scale, I just got off, I did like two movies.
So I kind of had the movie bugs.
So I went to the label like, yo, so I want to do like a 30-minute mini-movie
and like let the album be the soundtrack to the movie.
They was like, oh, yeah, that's dope.
That's dope.
Who's going to write the script?
I got it.
I take care of it.
Mind you, I don't know shit about writing scripts.
I'm not to write a song.
I'll write a script.
So they're like, all right, 30 minutes.
All right, cool.
So I bring them the script.
So in the world are writing scripts, a page equates to a minute.
So 30 pages is 30 minutes.
My script had 145 pages in them.
Yeah, that's true.
It's like, man, it ain't nothing many of a lot of money.
Nah, this ain't going to work.
So I had to bust it down to 30, right?
Basically, long story short, the album came out.
It was kind of all over the place.
The story was weird.
Like, people didn't get it.
The album didn't do well at all, right?
So I was kind of down because, like,
we had just came off the high of year to gentlemen,
and then it was like,
like the shit, we went double glass.
Anyway, so that year,
we got invited to Prince's Grammy Party.
You stole a Grammy Party of you.
So we go to the party,
And mind you, I'm in there.
And I'm excited because we had Princess join,
but at the same time, I'm, like, bummed out.
It's like, man, the album not doing well.
It recently had just dropped the album.
We had just dropped the album.
The album came out, didn't do the numbers, you know what I'm saying?
The singles was kind of moving, but not really.
Like, it was a bad way.
It was a bad way.
So we go to the party and we're standing there,
and, like, I'm there, but I'm not there.
It's in a pool house at Princess House.
So, like, everybody's standing on top of the pool.
It was like a plexiglass shit on top of the pool.
and everybody's farting on the pool.
He's in the corner with his band.
He's jamming, right?
They just playing whatever.
He sees me, puts his guitar down,
B-lines through the crowd, straight to me.
He comes on to me, he says,
Labor Skill is a good album.
Don't let nobody tell you different and walked on.
And from that moment, I was like,
you know what?
I don't give a damn what the critics say.
I don't care what.
Nobody say.
Prince said it's good.
It's good.
I'm good.
And it, like, it restored my desire to music.
I was like, man, I was messed up behind it.
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I say I cut people off, so I let you get the print story off.
But how did the label act with you when it went double flags?
You know how that thing go
I'm asking, though
They're there for all the celebration
When things go well
And when things go bad is your fault
Let me tell you something
You know how that goes
I had an album went double platinum
Jealous One still went
They had a fucking picture of me
Six stories high
In the Atlantic records
The fucking picture was six stories high
I'm tough doing
They swapped it out for TI
I'm not going there
What I'm going there
What I'm going is they gas me to put out an album in Christmas time with Mariah Carey, J. Z., Missy Elliott, this, this.
But they're doing you in the traffic with all Lamb of years.
Super gas me.
And I'm over here.
I'm over here telling them, yo, this is a bad idea.
This is a dis.
I don't think you think we're going to sell like Missy?
We're going to sell like Jay.
You're the big guy.
Fourth quarter of this.
I didn't know that back then.
They were getting paid on the shipping.
So if your last album sold $2 million, they shipped $2 million, they get paid already.
So whether you sell 10 records or 20, like that album that went double glass, they made their money.
Yeah.
They shipped out a million to the album.
They always make their money.
They always make their money.
So my point is when the shit flop, maybe like a month later, the guy who insisted and gasmed, I'll say it, Craig Calvin, gas me, drop the album.
I was just saying,
guys need to drop that album.
I saw him at like the MTV Music Awards.
And I was like, yo, hey, Craig.
And the man in real life got up, looked at me
and ran away from me like I had AIDS or HIV.
I was like, yo, Bray, he was like,
motherfucker got up at it.
And I realized at that point,
I see, yo, these people don't give a fuck.
This is the same guy I'm sitting on his couch.
telling them,
yo,
let's not drop,
let's not this.
You know,
you know,
as soon as that album flop,
Tia Postor went up.
Shit crazy, man.
So that's why I'm asking you.
That's how I go.
That's how I go.
No,
you know what,
though?
I had,
shit crazy.
I had a good situation.
It's the biggest guy.
I'm like,
because like,
so Jay's crazy.
This was right when
Jay had became president over there.
So it was Jay and Tata
that was pretty much yet
through the whole recording
of pretty much all my shit.
And like,
Tata is one of them
thing is it just he can't not keep it real.
So like he, like, Tata was a nigga that told me he was like, yo, I need you
understand.
Nobody in the building believes that you're going to do anything.
I just need you to know that.
I need you understand that.
With that album?
No, we're our first album.
Before the first album came out, like, they signed me and I want to believe they signed me as a
tag's write off because they didn't, they didn't think it was going to.
Because he came to you was like, listen, I'm going to let you know now.
You know, sitting around with all the A&Rs.
Ain't nobody really, you ain't got too many people in your corner.
I'm just let you know that.
And I'm like, I couldn't.
He can do nothing, but appreciate the fact that he kept at that rhythm.
Shut off the top.
Well, who are there in the arts?
So my thing, I got a different type of like...
Will you let him finish?
He just finished.
No, he didn't.
He was just thought.
No, that was...
No, it's all.
No, you finished, though.
Yeah.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I can he finished that fact then.
I've been very patient.
Yo, patient thing.
I've been very patient.
No, what I was saying,
was I had one or two folks in the building that was actually riding for me,
whether we won or lost.
Like, Ty and Jay, they was, they was, they was good to me.
You know what I'm saying?
If it was a winner or lose, even to the Deliever scale situation,
that was like, it's all right, we'll get them next time.
They were, like, they was.
They was a hell of a too big to have it.
Damn straight.
Yeah.
Exactly.
It was good.
My thing is, who the fuck is the A&R guys?
Right?
You know them?
I don't know them.
So you come.
in there you create, you tell your life story,
you make hit records, and they get credit.
I never like that shit.
Man, I mean, I fucking never
like that shit.
Every time a fucking artist
comes out, say, a Lizzo
or somebody, a Cardi B,
or whoever's a sensation,
some guy comes stand next to them
and takes the credit with them at the Grammys
that they don't even fucking know.
They never even talked to. They never even saw them.
They never, nothing. No recommendation.
Nothing.
Standing up there like they did some shit.
I never like that shit.
Ever, somebody else taking credit.
Beat up A&R.
No, I don't want to beat up nobody.
I don't want to beat up nobody.
But what I'm trying to tell you is,
I really want to know an A&R.
Baby Bob Reeves Tullos
and one more than beats.
See, how are you going to start finding?
No, no, no.
A lot of A lot of good for the game.
A lot of them is fucked up,
but there's some good ones.
I never had to help.
It's some good news.
I don't know if you had the help.
Tata was my A&R.
You made my first four album.
Somebody came and said she was a model for the year.
They bought that beat.
No.
I mean,
PIC did bring me to Virginia,
the Ferell's creating.
He didn't write it.
That's my fucking words.
But he took me to meet Ferell.
So that's it.
He'd get the wrong.
He introduced you to.
I'll tell you like this.
The Bionse record might not have happened,
if not for Tata.
it might not have happened.
Because I didn't write that record originally for Beyonce.
It's a bunch of records that went on Rihanna's album
that I didn't write for Rihanna,
but because Tata was always there,
like every time I was in the studio, he was it.
I mean, they set up like four days for Britney Spears room, right?
It was a, yeah, she's going to come in and whatever, whatever.
She never showed.
Four days, she never showed.
But every song that I wrote for her, Tata was there,
he's like, yo, let me get a copy that.
And then two weeks later, he was like, oh, yeah, we gave that to Rihanna.
Yeah, we get it to Beyonce.
Yeah, we get that to this one or that one.
So, like, he was great.
I'm not talking about Tata specifically.
I'm talking about the world of A&Rs.
A lot of these guys don't do shit,
and they got too much to say about what the single is,
how they know this.
You know, how many times we've seen the artists come out,
pure talent, blow up,
and then all of a sudden the A&R try to start telling them what to do
or what should they shoot or how they should look
or this, throw away this shit.
My first deal is when I, when I,
I had my experience with kind of crappy A&Rs.
Like, so I got signed to Columbia.
That was my first, my first record deal.
Like, a guy like you, right?
You're so fucking talent.
Imagine now we know the story.
Now 20 years in your fucking super producer,
super mega star, this, this, that.
You're starting the game.
You got all this fucking talent.
You know God gave you all this talent.
And somebody trying to direct you and tell you what it is.
And you sitting here looking at them like,
Like, is this shit crazy?
But I was dream, though.
I ain't know no better.
I was just happy to have a deal.
So, like, whatever they were telling me to do,
I did it.
Like, no, I don't write with these cats.
Now, I don't wear it at where it is type of shit.
So, like, we finished the album for Columbia.
And I'm looking at the shit.
And I'm like, I don't recognize the nigga on the cover.
I don't recognize the music.
Like, this ain't me.
This is who they want to, like,
they try to turn me to like baby Tyrese or somebody, right?
So I went back into the label.
Like, yo, is it cool if maybe I go in there,
you know, cut one or two more records
that kind of fit who I am.
And it was like, well, I mean,
we would let you, but your budget is depleted.
Now I'm like, at the moment, at that time,
that was the most money I ever had in life.
So I knew where the money was going.
I'm like, nah, this much studio time costs this, this cost that.
We should have at least this left, right?
That's when I learned that every time
them castle flies to New York and take us to Mr. Childs
and throw that credit card down.
Yeah.
How about you flying them?
Yeah, yeah.
How are you trying numb?
Whenever they swipe that card, that's, that was my budget.
And I didn't know.
And of course, they're not going to tell you.
So, yeah, yeah, that was my first experience with A&R that just was on the take, basically.
No, listen, when you, from listening to you, he ain't listened.
For me listening to you, it sounds like a lot of the songs you wrote for people,
you didn't write for people.
It happened to, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
It happens like that a lot, honestly.
Like, you know, it's, you give somebody first-righted refusal,
and if they don't see it, they don't see it.
All right, but that don't mean the song is whack.
That don't mean you can't use it.
So it'll go somewhere else.
See, now, but they fucking J-Lo wrote that, well, at least half.
That's what Faith said on the interviewer.
I love you.
It was J-Lo song.
She passed on it, and Faith kept it.
And that shit turned into a fucking...
That's one of my favorite favorite.
It's hit in the world.
This is that shit.
I mean, that's how that shit goes, especially...
For songwriting, you know, you don't know what the good thing that Tata did,
he had your best interest because you need somebody in there passing it off.
You know, this is good.
It needs to be somewhere.
You know, I did that, right?
Yo, yo, yo, yo!
You already said.
I did that.
The album, the Usher, I'm going to give you two.
The album that Usher did with Rico Love, a lot of Enrico Super Producer,
A lot of them songs I was in the studio with,
and Usher wasn't short.
He was like, yo, I don't know this, this name, you're crap.
And I'm like, yo, bro, this guy's the hottest guy in the game.
I did the same thing with Kelly Rowland with the joint that Rico wrote for her.
Because at the time, she had like an EDM song that was,
she was about to go all the way over there.
She was like, I'm going EDIM.
And I'm like, yo, you know, you know, you're destiny's child.
You know, the hit was right.
It was so much of a hit.
I was like, yo, this, you're crazy if you're not cutting this.
This is a smash hit.
You know, and sometimes people want to get a little outside voice to say,
all right, man, maybe I should fuck with it.
Yeah, yeah.
And they fuck with it.
You know, there's certain hits that I did that I ain't like because,
to me, they were like sellout hits.
Like, I just knew it was going to be a hit.
Like, you know, when you manage.
Manufacturing hit.
There's a way to manufacture a hit.
Yeah.
There's a formula.
This is the sound.
This is the formula.
Get the homie on the hook.
Get this.
And it's a hit.
And I never liked it because I felt like I was cheating the system.
Label way.
I never forget.
They gained to see me.
It was like, yo, you need it.
American standard instructions of it.
I didn't do it pretty much.
Step one.
Step two.
But you feel like you cheated the game.
I mean, me.
I mean, thank God.
I still make money to this day off of it,
but I felt like I cheated the game when I did.
When I did something like, shit, we're number one, too.
So you have a year.
You can hear when something is going to be like the one.
Now let's go back to Craig Cowman.
The only real shitty he ever said to me was he said,
you're not Beyonce.
He said, if you put out,
that was the only real shitty?
The only real shit he ever said to me was you not.
not Beyonce.
If your song doesn't do good,
there's in the next song.
It was crazy because you got that fucked
that hat on.
I remember I walked in that land.
I told Atlantic, I'm fucking up the whole office.
I walked in there.
All 5,000 employees was out the building.
That shit was like, whew-de-w-w-w-w-tumble-weezed.
I said, I'm going in there because they didn't want to shoot
that video, and then I got up to that.
Terror Squad Fat Joe, I'm beating everybody up in the office.
Five o'clock I'm walking in that shit.
It was a ghost town.
Only one guy stood there, man.
Russ and peace, Rodney Johnson, man.
He's trying to explain it to him.
You said, Joe, we told you that if the record don't do good, you can't do enough.
So basically, they were like, yo, look, you got one shot.
If it hits, you get another one.
So I had to almost train my ears like I was a program director.
Yeah.
To know what they would play on a Sunday in South Carolina.
And I knew I would play these songs and be like,
Yo, they'll play this shit in South Carolina or Arizona, so I had to train myself,
and I knew if I didn't, if it wasn't a hit, I'm fucked.
So.
See, that's a skill in itself.
Like, I don't, I don't have that.
Like, I'll be so close to the music that I can't hear the one.
Shout to my man Tango.
Tango is my manager, been my manager for 20 years.
When I first met this, he didn't have a radio in his car talking about I'm a manager
music career.
He didn't even listen to music.
He's like, no, no, no, no.
I don't know music.
I don't know product.
And I know people.
And I'm like, I, and to this day, every single that I've had that went, Tango was like,
it's this one.
And mind you, it'll be shit like, like, Nick, I spent five days on this record.
This one I did in like 20 minutes.
He was like, bro, it's that one.
And sure, closer.
I did not believe in closer.
I didn't think the closer was for me.
I literally wrote it to sell it.
It was Tango and Jay-Z that was like, yo, keep that shit.
Trust me.
Keep it.
We put the joint out for the first three months.
Nobody gave a fucking, they didn't get it.
To the point where we went to the lay,
we went to the lay where L.A. re called us in on some, yo,
I think it's time to switch singles.
Before I walked in the L.A. office, Jay was like,
yo, Ellie about to tell you get off that record.
Do not get off that record.
But even I was like, bro, this shit, it ain't working, man.
Why would we?
Like, yo, trust me, stay on that record.
All right.
So we stayed on the record.
We did the BET Awards that year.
After that performance,
that moment, we never looked back.
Those was the day.
But I don't have, everybody, what's the recipe for a hit?
I couldn't tell you.
I'm going to get in the studio and do it feel good to me
and then hand it off to the folks that had that ear like that
because I don't got that.
Like, don't let me pick the singer.
That's crazy.
You're crazy to lie-ass album hits for me.
You can't.
You got, I don't know.
I can't pick the, it's what feel,
I go off of what feels good to me.
You know what I'm saying?
That's as far as I can take it.
I don't know this audience is going to do this
and that on that.
That's a whole other skill set that I just,
I don't do that part.
Don't do that part.
I'm going to cut the record
and then I'm going to pass it off
to the person that goes,
ah, yeah, this is for this market,
that's for that market.
Like, realize it,
my job is to sell records.
My job is to make music.
So I'm going to make the music
and then give it to the person
who's job at it.
Harmless music.
That's how it works.
15 Grammy nominations.
Yeah, I'm not.
Three Grammy wins.
How does that feel?
It feels good,
but at the same time,
when you wanted to have double-digit grammy.
You know what I mean?
So it was like,
I got more work.
But it's also, you know, Stevie, Bob.
You brought up a thing.
It's got no grimmie.
Stevie Wonder.
Stevie Wonder is the last American.
They ain't got no grammars, dude.
Huh?
There's a lot of people with no grimmons.
I ain't got no grimmons.
Why, you try to get, that's it.
That's the shit.
Yo, your man's.
Your man be pout.
Like on the, yeah, I ain't got shit.
What?
I didn't say you.
What are you trying to say?
He said he's mad at three.
I said he's, he said he.
Oh, no, I ain't mad at three.
I got mixed feelings.
I just know that got more work to do.
I got mixed feelings about the Grammys.
Yeah, it would be great to have a Grammy.
I don't like that when someone dies,
they immediately Grammy nominated a Grammy Award.
What makes Grammy holier than thou?
Like what makes that word Grammy?
Like any artist dies from any genre to go Grammy winner,
Grammy that, what is it?
What, like, who are they?
because they get it wrong all the time.
Like you think, what song you had,
I can tell you mine,
what song you had that you lost,
that you lost the Grammy
that you knew for a fact you should have won?
Oh, come on.
Me and Pitball.
Time of our life.
No, no, no.
Not time of my life.
Give me everything.
Give me everything.
Was the song of Six Summers,
and because we didn't turn it in on time,
we didn't get,
we wasn't eligible for Grammy?
How crazy is that?
I just did a song,
show with Pitt,
ago and they got people with
boarheads in the fucking crowd.
I thought it was attacking the aliens.
That's like his merchandise.
Oh, it's the...
Yeah, yeah, you buy some shit, right?
They look like fucking aliens.
I say, yo, I'm too far from home for the aliens to attack.
Fresno, California.
I got to be in the Bronx shooting shit up.
I can't be out there.
They're going to turn me into the Vato Loco.
Shit, I was like,
yo, I'm too far from home for all these alien
motherfuckers in the crowd.
Like, that shit,
This merch is bald heads.
All the head.
That you put over your head.
Yes.
Like the scar.
You get like the sleet stacks and shit like that.
Your shit all the way like, it's weird.
That's what they bought the shit.
Yeah.
You know, when you become a Halloween costume, that's when you know you made it.
Man.
I'm Oseptic.
I'm Oseptic.
Every Halloween I'm Osepec.
I don't know, but the crowd ain't Halloween.
I'm Oseptic every Halloween.
Oh, you put the box.
You cut the thing.
You got to sell.
I'm Oseptic.
I'm a little Zipik
Every year I'm Joe Zippet
I'm battling fucking
You talk about country
I'm battling your jelly roll skinny
Like a motherfucker
Man look
You seen jelly roll lately
Not lately no
Fucking sex symbol
He's up there
He's taking my slot right now
Pause
Pause
Oh shit
He was just recently on
Kostin' Knott's Mafia though
Yeah
man.
It was that experience.
Like, I'm the young jeans.
I mean, I felt like the old
nigga in the room.
I really did.
It was cast in that it literally
did not know who I was.
I had a t-shirt on with,
with Neo on the t-shirt.
Not me, but Neo from the movie
The Matrix.
And the nigga didn't know who that was.
I'm like, yo, how old are you?
What was in there?
With candy garters?
He was like, he was like 15, 16.
I'm like, God.
Yeah, all right.
But now, it was cool.
It was cool.
Because Kai is like,
like you could tell he got
like Duel got a
marketing and business mind for real
word like he's serious with that
but it was a cool situation like I've done
you know to sit down on the couch
in the studio audience and all of that
and you know it's all organizing shit
but in there it's like
whatever he think he gonna say it
whatever the little niggas behind him think they're gonna just say it
and that's just and just gotta rock with it
that's what people are not understanding
people from my era
are not understanding now
these young kids don't give a fuck about you
and IG with your filter
with your diss they don't want the fake shit
they want to fuck up in front of them on a stream
they want to see if it's real
or not if you diss and this and that all that
fake shit that you could
stage shit and shit like that there's no
long the motherfucker took home boy the world's fastest man
that nigger hat he had movies with him chasing
guerrillas and
fucking shit that your man
speed blew his fucking ankles
off in front of every
they don't want to want to
the face shit no more.
They are not going for the fake shit.
These young kids, they want to know, all right.
You could do it, you could do it.
Yeah, hey, if you didn't do it, nice try.
But we know the real shit.
That's what the stream shit is all about.
But I'll tell you one thing about Kassanah.
They're all young, but they all know to book, Leo, Kim Kardashian.
Yeah.
All the people of our age group is on there, Kevin Hart, Snoop.
They're not fucking dumb.
They know who got the real fans that tuned in.
So they can play all that young shit,
but they all tapping into that culture, too.
Real real.
You know what I mean?
So don't think we ain't the...
Straight up.
Know who it is your boy Kizzer.
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Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers.
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Yo, Neil, I got to keep it real with you, right,
because lately being that we're podcasters now, is crazy because all the artists, not you,
but all the artists seem to come in here and don't want to talk about what everybody want to hear them talk about out there.
You got four wives.
Yes, indeed.
What kind of pressure?
Do you buy it?
Is it like Muslim?
Do you got to buy the same bag for the same girl?
Like, you know what?
Mine is mine.
You definitely got to have a bag to have four wives.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Okay.
There's a mindset that the woman has to have
in order to be able to share men.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's literally got to,
she literally got to think a different way.
If you got four women that want Birkin bags,
you got the wrong four.
Like, straight.
So they got a different mentality.
It's community, it's family.
It's like everybody doing something.
It's like a village where everybody do something.
Everybody got a job.
You know what I mean?
If you're the only person taking care of everything, you're doing it.
That's not how I'm supposed to go.
Everybody's supposed to kind of pitch in together.
Like, I have seven kids on my own.
You know, one of them got a daughter.
A little one got two kids.
And it's like, okay, so I don't have seven kids.
I got nine kids.
And that's fine because we all come together like,
this one's washing dishes.
This one changing diapers.
need be this one doing that.
Everybody does.
You did it's a traditional way.
Yeah.
Right.
I got to ask.
Did you have to do, how'd you, how'd you, did you have to do an interview?
How the hell did you know?
How did you do this?
What's you on tour, just like, all right, she could be part of the family.
She could be like, how did you do it?
How did you do it full time?
So, okay, so after my, after my divorce, you know, my very public, very ugly divorce.
I realized that just through being dishonest,
I heard a lot of people.
I heard a lot of people.
And I decided at that moment,
I don't never want to be a reason
about they feel like.
So from that moment, I was like,
I'm going to just keep it a buck with everybody
about everything, be it good, bad, ugly, whatever.
I'm going to keep it a buck.
I don't ask me if the dress make you look fat,
if you don't really want to hear the answer
because I'm going to tell you straight up, right?
So one of the ones that we've been around
a little longer than the other ones,
So I basically just set it down like, listen, you know I rocked what you.
We've been rocking for forever.
Do this, through that, we've been rocking.
I love you.
I do.
But it ain't just you.
I'm also rocking with this one and this one.
Your man could love more than one woman.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I just want to say, yo, Jayne, I'm throwing you out this motherfucker.
Yo, Jayne, let him ask you the fucking question.
I didn't say nothing.
You ain't got four a while.
You ain't got four wives.
You ever seen somebody interrupt and didn't tell you to be.
Because you're like, you can love more than one woman.
This is the shit men won't say.
Marry men won't say that.
This is this shit men won't say.
They can't.
But you got four, so that's how it goes.
What do we call that in America?
It's polygamy.
Real shit.
It's polyamory if you're not married.
It's polygamy if you're married.
And polygamy is illegal in a lot of America.
So it's poly.
Poly.
Yeah.
Polymers.
You know, I woke up one day.
And a lot of bark.
There's a lot of pink horse power in the cabin door that.
Listen, first of all me,
fucking rock a bull.
I'm abused.
I'm abused.
Like, I'm lyrically abused.
Some of my friends come to the house,
they fucking,
they're going light candles for me.
Like, I'm sitting there like Al Bundy.
Like, ah, ah, I'm like,
watch the TV.
It's very hard to get me upset.
But for them doing that shit at the same time?
But see, you don't happen like that.
It don't happen like that.
Because I'm, I'm very, very,
very, very adamant about drawing the line
in the sand. It's like, listen, I'm going to
I'm going to let you say what it is you need to say.
But once we start going here,
you lost me anyway. So you might as well
when I was thinking about asking you his question,
I'm thinking, so what you got? Like a giant bed?
Like a big fucking jacking to be a big
Star. Alaska. Alaska.
Alaska. See, I need that.
Yo.
Alaskin King is like
your best book me and the last King.
Like, only to
book me. Double kings together.
Like.
King?
The voters
I get a
Alaskin.
I only think
I heard
in California
and something
else.
I heard it
I never heard of
Alaska
I never heard of
California.
Alaskin
that's not
Fadjo
deserve an
Alaskin king.
Yeah.
No fat
Joe deserves
an Alaskin king.
I guess you
need two
more people
in it.
Because mind
you can't
buy in
Alaska
King,
you got to get
somebody to
make it.
They got to come
there and build
it.
They got to build it.
They got to build
it
and
it's like a
giant bed.
Yes.
Yo.
It's about it.
Come to my.
Yo.
You're an inspiration, Neil.
I like it.
I like that.
We're going to live vicariously through you.
That's it.
And I hopes it works out.
Everything is good, man.
Everything is good.
Again, we have problems just like monogamous relationship, all that shit is real.
You're going to argue over stuff.
But, again, at the end of the day, as long as you are head of household and everybody
understands that, then arguments don't last on.
Like, you know, I'm going to let you get it out.
I'm let you say what you got to say.
I'm going to hear you.
But once it's done, it's done.
And we're not good.
We're not going to be.
You think a broke man can have four women in the lasting, uh, if you do it the right way.
Because again, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not.
Game.
We got, so listen, all women ain't going, it's not going to work.
They're not rocking with that.
It has to be a certain kind of woman.
She got to, she got to have a certain mindset if she going to do it.
Because if she, if she's the kind of woman, again, that she needs birthdays and all this.
What's your question?
I got two questions.
How far apart?
Because you know how you said you had one that was with you for a while?
How was the age difference?
No, no, no.
How quick did it take to get the other three on board?
It wasn't, it didn't take a long time.
It was taking a long time.
I kind of set up a dinner.
I told the one that I want you to meet, I want you to meet the other ones.
Initially it was just three.
So I told her that I wanted her to meet the other two.
I set up the day.
Where the last one come from?
She's one of my dances.
She's the newest, yeah.
Yeah, she's one of my dancers.
So, country inspired.
Yes, sir.
It's going to have some country, but it's still going to have some of that.
Yeah, yeah, I can't not be me, but it's, like, everything that I love about country music
mixed with what it is that I normally do.
It's pretty much right there.
And then you've got this all in the Vegas residency coming.
Yeah, man, I'm proud of that.
Sure.
I'm flying out with that.
I grew up in Vegas.
Definitely flying in for that.
At the high school in Vegas,
oh,
nah,
so to be able to go back
and do something like that,
that's...
I could live in Vegas.
You know,
we got solid together.
After it gets,
you know,
Oshry gave me a call,
I figured you could give me a call.
Say less.
A miss,
hey,
you know there.
No,
no.
I don't know.
I come with him.
No,
come with him.
Yo,
I'll come with him.
What do you want me to do?
I come with.
I'm attached.
They think I bring Jter kids
with me.
I walk in the,
why what seven and a little yo is jada like yo bro you got me like knock a wretch like i'm in the
pack i'm in the back of his fucking like i'm in the back of y'all think he comes here
it's included package still look yo neo man uh five of your favorite artists of all time and i'm
gonna make it even easier for you i'm gonna say songwriters no no group groups
five groups that's hard we're rnb songwriter let's go songwriter
Five-five song writers.
What you did?
You want a song writer?
Let me get your best five song writers.
That, that'd be, just at least.
You know, this is a hard question.
So, baby face.
Oh, uh, Smokey Robinson.
Mm.
Smokey was writing all that shit.
Jontay Austin.
My God.
Jante is a monster.
The dream.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the fifth, got to go with Lana Richie.
Who.
Yo, niggies, um.
don't understand.
Well,
niggas don't say
he's a nigger,
nigga.
Nah,
no,
no,
like,
before you
go away with that,
because I love
Lina Richie,
but I've had
this argument
with some real
sweet R&B
singers that
they don't rate
them because they
feel like he
was lollipop
or something.
Now.
What do you think?
Nah,
no,
okay,
so Lano's
coming to
Commodores
and then went over
into the country,
like,
Lano Richard
took publisher
of the year,
two years in a row,
not a publishing
company, Lionel Richie
by himself.
That's an award that goes to publishing
companies.
Look it up.
Publisher of the year.
Lionel Rich twice.
Twice.
I love...
I love...
That mean, that man was putting
numbers on the board.
But I've heard this argument
with like some people you would...
That's because he didn't keep it R&B.
Like he went R&B, then he went pop,
then he went country.
He's like, hello.
If you got that, you're supposed to do that.
You're looking for...
No, no, no, no, no.
I love Lionel Rich.
Yeah, man.
They just can't do that part of the law right there.
Hello.
Let me see.
You know how this shit go hip-hop, R&B.
It's always a debate.
Of course.
So I'm sitting down with some of the most respected R&B singers of all time.
And I'm surprised when Lionel come up.
They're like, yeah, he ain't like, you know, I'm like, huh?
They're mad.
Lionel fucking Richie.
She's mad.
Cats feel like, because you do one thing well, you're supposed to stay there.
And it's like, nah, what if you do six things well?
Like, how I'm not?
If I'm giving the gift, I'm going to,
use it. Lano Ritchie could write
R&B, but he could also write pop.
He could also write country. He could do all that.
So why would he not do it?
No, no, no. You can't front
online. Lina Ritchie's for now. At all.
You name some serious ones.
Smokey Robinson did all the
motel house shit. He knew motel
might be my favorite
song writer. You know,
that's the weirdest
one. We're cool with a lot of people
but, you know, I'm actually cool with
baby face. That's
That's, no, don't throw the shit.
He comes to my birthday party and sing at my birth.
Don't do that.
You're gonna lie.
Don't throw that.
Don't throw that.
Don't throw that.
You're gonna look crazy out here.
You look crazy with Joey badass.
Now you say baby face.
I go to dinner with baby face all the time.
He's my friend.
This is what I'm trying to tell you.
He's one of the weirdest relationships I have.
Am I lying, did he yet?
Oh, there ain't go.
Fuck.
Cork cat.
Nican, cool cat.
I call a cap on the cat.
You was there, did he?
Yo, that's my guy.
Like, what are you?
He's the one that Joe crack cannot believe I'm cool.
Through this whole journey, it's like I sit down and have dinner with Babyface.
And Babyface wanted to hear the stories, Cap, but not.
Babyface is like, yo, Joe, tell me some shit.
Yo, this, they all do, you know what I'm saying?
They want that shit.
That sauce, man.
You know what I'm telling you the truth?
What are you to do?
You see a little Boosie the other day on the interview?
No.
Oh, you say he's a big fan of our show.
He said, I know Joe about to say some shit.
We need them on here, man.
We need.
Boosey badass.
Call us up, man.
Atlanta.
Right, Atlanta.
We're looking from the outside end, right?
We need to go to Atlanta.
Atlanta's what, I want to go to Atlanta.
Can we go to Atlanta?
Got some new things.
I love Atlanta.
We got some new vent.
You started a golf line.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, Oligo sport.
So my manager Tango was talking about earlier.
he's been playing golf forever
been trying to give me out there
and I never
like I'm young
I don't play golf
like the pants is weird
I'm not doing it
but he actually got me out there
one time
we went to a who was it
Reggie Jackson's
tournament
right
and mind you
Reggie Jackson golf tournament
is not a regular golf tournament
like every hole
they're giving away
Jordan's fucking
like every hole is something different
so like I'm like
he's like this ain't how golf
normally is
but yeah
so I've
fell in love with the game. So I'm like, all right, listen, if I'm going to do this, I'm not wearing
that shit, bro. Like, these things look nuts. Sorry, they look nuts. I'm not doing it. So you
got to make your own closing home. So we, he's like, all right, we'll start a line. So we
got bags, we got, we got, you know, clothes or shoes, the whole nine. It's coming together
nice. I'm going to see on some stuff.
Seamus. Hinaldo Martinez, did you know that?
What hell is that?
Reggie Jackson.
Mr. October.
Reggie Jackson with Spanish.
and change his name to Reggie Jackson
by Hernado Maldinus.
Google that shit.
I ain't lying to you at the time.
It wasn't cool to be sent.
Well, as I was alive, his name was Reggie Jackson.
Well, you better go ask
Denzel Washington, who told me that's the
Hernado Maldinus.
Okay? And we got love, Reggie.
I'm from the Bronx.
They know that.
Reggie Jackson did all that work in the Bronx.
One day I see him and I go,
Oh my God, Reggie Jackson, I try to go.
I get held back by Denzel Washington.
You see, you're Joe.
Denzel Washington is like, I don't think you should be running up to that guy.
I said, what do you mean?
He said, that's Rehanaldo, my deignance.
He denounced the Latinos when he was winning.
He didn't want to save the Spanish.
Wow.
I don't fucking know.
I don't know.
So is Reggie Jackson.
The other thing is dead.
I also think, to Reggie Jackson's credit,
I also think I was in Houston at the 50 cent weekend,
that basketball shit I was coaching.
He confronted me somehow.
He heard this story.
This ain't the first time I say.
Somebody came in front of me, yo, Joe, what's up?
And I was like, yo, what's up, Reggie Jack?
I think he wanted to get into the conversation of the Hernando Martinez.
We might need Reggie Jackson on this bitch right here,
so he could explain that.
us. That the other
niggas
dead.
Yeah.
That Martinez ain't in the whole of the fair.
Angie Jackson is in the
Hall of Fair fact.
And Naldo ain't in the game
right there.
That shit crazy, man.
It really is.
Yo, Neo, my brother, man,
we thank you, man, for coming, man.
Lick and then smack the album.
Oh.
We got a little snippet or something?
I take that.
Okay, cool.
Get a little snippet.
It's always beautiful.
Yeah, let's play the song.
What's the call?
It's called Simple Things.
Oh, shit.
Put on that makeup, spend an hour on your hair.
High heels in that red dress with a slip right up to there,
and I don't mind.
But sweats and ponytail and smile suit me just fine.
I could do this country right here.
You'll get in the kitchen, make a meal fit for a king.
Burn your hands and cut your fingers just to feed me.
I appreciate.
But I'd appreciate.
praise a sandwich that you made you could search your whole life never to find what's standing right in front of you
it's always the simple things the way you laugh is the way you cry to your favorite song life is all the in-betweens
the flowers you find on the uphill climb that keep you moving on and after you stop chasing it's when you're
Find out all they really made sense
It's a simple
It's always a simple
Crazy
Hey, man
Hey, man,
Oh, boy
Holy shit
Thank you
You have made me a country music fan
Neo, you have made me a country music fan
That was fucking amazing
Any John you're right there
That shit was crazy
I appreciate that
Appreciate that.
Appreciate the love.
It's crazy.
We're coming soon.
I think we're dropping this year.
Are we driving this year?
Are we waiting to next year?
Say, who this year?
Out of next year.
So you're not aware of some railroad
for the rest of the year.
That's a fact.
And when is the tour
is supposed to start?
Next year?
I think the tour is top of 2020.
Yeah.
I think me and Acon moving.
I'm fine.
Oh, with Acon?
Yeah, man.
That's that shit right there.
You know, I toured Africa
with Acom.
Africa
with Acorn
All right
When we get Acorn
We're gonna get him here
Kiss
I didn't say
Nothing I'm a great
About it over there
Nah no
I'm telling you
I went on tour
In Africa
With Acorn
That shit was the
Illest shit
I ever seen in my life
No flags
Oh
Oh
Congratulations on Dallas
I had the whole
Stadium
Curse in the Mount
In the fucking
Her rap
Nah
We was in L.A.
Me, Pitbull,
Little John
and the yin-yang twins
and I had the,
he had a Dallas shit.
I had him shitting on him.
I was like,
this is the Dallas.
He was a good sport about it.
I was surprised
Rich wasn't cursing
the whole fucking crowd out.
Yo, Neo, man,
you're always with
baby Tata over there.
Yes,
uh,
Cool V,
man.
Yo, my brother, man.
Yo,
what does it feel like
being Tata's little brother,
right?
Yo,
yeah,
no,
ladies and gentlemen.
Hold on,
hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
Oh,
go on.
Yo, come back.
Come in.
Come in.
No.
No.
Leave my man alone.
God.
So many years I thought he was Tata.
Yeah, he'd get that a lot.
You know what I'm saying?
I got,
yo, listen,
so many years I see you,
then he realized,
nah, I'm not,
I'm not Tata.
Yo, all that look exactly alike.
You all look like.
You all look exactly alike.
Well, you're not twins, right?
No, he's just looking the same.
Well, anyway, brother.
You got a lot of it.
You got the right one with you, brother.
Yeah, man.
Neil, thank you for blessing the couch.
Like Kitt says, there's always legends,
but there's different legends, I'm noticing.
And everybody's a legend,
but you definitely, what you've brought to the world
in terms of happiness,
because I got to,
that I'm a movement by myself.
Yes, sir.
But I'm a four-swain with together.
Mommy, I'm good all by myself.
Come.
But maybe you, you make you make.
me better. You made me better.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Love, brother. That's love.
This ain't that.
That ain't this. It's cracking kiss.
Give it up for me. I'll take our guests for today. Joe and Shaylor.
We love you.
Hey, guys. It's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
I'm Kevin.
And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called,
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We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bikers.
Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel,
help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app,
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And I'm CJ Toledano.
It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs.
We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season.
And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.
If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry.
You just understood.
That's how personal it got.
Wow.
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This was just playoffs.
This was just basketball.
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