The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Rich Paul on LeBron-Jordan, Jay-Z vs. Terror Squad Rucker Blackout Game & Adele

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by CEO of Klutch Sports Rich Paul. Right out the gate, Jada instigates an argument about LeBron James' future with the Los Angeles Lakers, which then quickly evolves into a heated debate over whether King James or Chicago Bulls legend Michael Jordan is the true greatest NBA player of all time. They also discuss Paul's relationship with superstar musician Adele, his new 'Game Over' podcast with former ESPN analyst Max Kellerman at The Ringer, his signature shoe with New Balance, and the infamous cancelled 2003 Rucker Park basketball game between Jay-Z's Team S. Carter and Joe's Team Terror Squad which would have featured NBA stars like LeBron, Denver Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony, Philadelphia 76ers guard Allen Iverson, and Los Angeles Lakers center Shaquille O'Neal. 3:30 - New 'Game Over' podcast with Max Kellerman 6:00 - Relationship with Adele 8:00 - Paul explains to Joe why Lakers WON'T trade LeBron 11:30 - LeBron vs. Jordan NBA G.O.A.T. debate 16:30 - Shoe deal with New Balance 21:00 - Paul's role & specialties with Klutch Sports clients 33:00 - Why you should work HARDER once you make it 46:00 - Why Paul stays out of his clients' personal lives 53:00 - Cancelled Jay-Z vs. Terror Squad Rucker game 1:04:00 - Importance of giving back 1:10:00 - Joe's got the Kenny Smith leg [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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50. We at Allen. I talked about it. Yo, what up? Y'all, this is your boy the motherfucking darn Joe crack in the building. You know what it is your boy Jada? You know what it is? The Joe and Jada show, every show legendary, every show iconic.

And we got our foot on these, just throats right, man. That's right. Talk your shit. I mean, our next guess, when you think of hardworking, grinding, coming from the bottom, you know what I mean, making something out of nothing. one of the best sports agents in the world. Really never loses.

He does a lot of winning. You know what I mean? Great business, man. Great individual. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Rich Paul. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You're coming in our space now. You're the new rookie in the block. You and Max Kellerman coming in that pot. Well, you said it's an audio visual space. Explain what you mean by that, but you coming in that space. Something I've been working on about 18 months, Max and I. You know, when the first situation happened with them, I called him. He thought I was trying to represent him.

Like, no, we should do something together. He called me back. He was like, oh, that's kind of interesting. So we worked it, worked it, worked it. And yeah, we're excited about it. It's going to be dope, though. You know, it's like... It's going to be L.A. and New York.

L.A. Okay. L.A. But, you know, it's one of those situations where it's like... Like, Stringer, Spotify, Netflix, hard to turn that down. It's Max, who's a professional. And then it's me who don't exist in that world. And we've been working, too.

Like, it's not like a game. It's not like you coming in. Like, when I focus on something like that, like, I really put the time in to rehearse and want to do it the right way. And you can't play with the business like that. I could tell by your lineup and shit. My barber flew in from Cleveland.

My barber, the best barber in the world. That's it. The fibers? No, there's no fibers. You ain't got the Jalen Brown right now. I ain't no fibers, Joe. We've been north for like a week. I'm sharp today.

I'm just letting you know. I'm fucking sharp. But, but, okay. But same to third video, this, nigga, I'm on point. If you're not going to do right by 10, Joe, you and I still have a little, you forgot? No, I forgot. Let me know.

I wanted up. Oh, man. I mean, I produced a record. I never got nothing. I never got nothing, Joe. From what? From Family Tides. I got nothing.

One of the best songs on the whole album. Yes. You forgot? I forgot. You let me to play? No. Okay. What happened on Family Tide?

I don't know. I didn't get nothing. Nothing. I'm just saying, that's not your style. That's not you. That's not you. I mean, the artist? He put the, he went executive?

I don't even fucking know. Don't send me to the T.S. study. Yo. I need, you know. Your wrist, it's always the little guys, right? Because coming from fat, Joe,

you're a little guy, right? And so, when I go, yeah, that was kind of proud, yeah. Yeah, so that's the flag. That's the flag.

That was a flag. That was a flag. That was flag worthy. Oh, shit. But you're sharp, though, Joe. I'm on point with it. I caught myself right now. That goes for a bit, Sean.

It's a little bit better. Like, I was, I caught it. Yeah. But, you know, your girlfriend, wife, what? You're talking about, you talking about Adel? Yes. Oh. So what I'm saying is always little guys like you, man.

Like I'd say I hear, I'm looking at first. fucking Jermaine Dupree. Jermaine Dupree had Janet Jackson up. What gives you guys the courage to walk into a fucking I-ton beauty queen and be like, yeah, babe.

What's up? Want to fuck with a real one? I'm looking at you. I'm sitting there. This man, you guys, Yo Well

It's crazy Yeah I'm looking That's the Jermaine DePree You're about five Two and shit Some chains That's the young So changed

That man went out Tennis You know I'm Jermaine DePree The confidence Gotta be At an all time high Huh

Well you know We all really do the choosing You get chose Oh You shit So That's that shit That's

I like that Yeah Sometimes we get chose by the wrong ones, huh? Well, you have to take you through the fucking washing machine, huh? Yeah, when you get chose, you have a choice. I got a friend, he's breaking up right now. His wife is on that fucking Instagram. She's dropping the 48 laws of being the fucked up, man.

It's just, he on date 12. He still got 30 more days of this shit. I'm like, I go in the fucking Italian bakery. They're like, hey, you see what the... The Italians, the real Italians. Every other, whatever they're like, yo, your friend, uh, his wife on fire is the man. Like, me, I'm gonna, yo, let me get my sandwich right,

there's just something wrong, right? I said, yo. You know, I listen, I don't want to smoke, man. You do get chose, though, you know? We need... Before we go any further, so we never had to have this discussion again, can you please? tell him

King James can never be treated unless I saw that Joe I was wondering where he was going with that he wants to take his talent

do you what was you said you followed something no I got to no you just follow nothing no you said

you saw somebody say something and it confirmed your stuff what I said is this league historically

has been about rebuilding And when they got a bunch of young kids bowling the way they balling, they got a bunch of white boys too at that bowling over there, dropping 35, 40 points a game, right, going crazy over there. The king took a little bit off for the sciatica. I'm wondering if he's going, he might have fucked up because I don't think he has sciatica

if you really want me to tell you what I really want to say. He said, yo, let me just see. No, you never had to play with those. Show these guys what they could do on anyone, and they fucked around. This is why I have a show. Give them. Okay, come on.

Because if you want the real, yeah, you see you. Oh, you're full of shit, too. That ain't that. You made me some promises that they never happen. You're a damn lie. You're a liar. How?

You told me guys were coming to the Knicks. The thing you represent. I can't. Him motherfuckers went to Afghanistan. They didn't come on. They gave more money in Afghanistan. The Knicks probably didn't have money. I came here bragging so hard.

You told me one time somebody was coming. Man, I was so gas. I was ready to bet. I would have went to fucking... I was trolling. Yeah, you was trolling me. You definitely trok, because the motherfucker ain't come nowhere. They're here.

No, but listen, you don't play with sciatica, first of all. But again, now, you can't be trading. I have no trade clause, Joe. And even if you wanted to trade... It's just... People just say the craziest things. I saw all of that, though. I was just like, yes, this is why I'm doing a show.

because you've got to get the real. That's not really, it's great clickbait, but it's not like the real. The reality of it is, you make $54 million at that age. That's out of control. Talk slow to him. So I'm not talking to.

Now, I'm on point today, is what I'm trying to tell you. He can go fast. Hello. So it's what Jay does say, is right. He can't be traded unless he wants to be traded. But even with that being said,

it takes two to tangle in a trade. So when you hear all these people, oh, you got to take a back seat, you got to fit in, you got to do this. If you want to break it down, you can take all four positions and name you the top five. He's in one of the top five

in all four positions outside of center. So where's the fitting in that? Yeah, but you say that now? I said for the last 23 years. For the last 23 years. Okay, let's cut the shit. Let's cut the shit, get to the pure. M.J. LeBron James, who's the goat?

Here we go. I'm so tired. No, no, this ain't a tired conversation. Get here. You say, he didn't fucking get here, Joe. He sucked you in. He sucked you in. Him. He lined you up.

No, I'm here. So you don't have to say this crazy shit ever. I don't got to say this shit. Who's the goat? Rich boy, you're here. No. He used to go. The mistake.

He don't believe me. I'm outside. Maybe I'm talking to some other guys. They, when we get to the joint talk, yo, they used to call fouls. Yo, he used to play against white guys. Stockton. The religious argument,

depending on the age group. Of who are you talking? You got the white guys. Boston everybody's ass right now. So what I'm trying to say is, who's the goat? That's all I'm saying. Can I get you on record?

Is LeBron J? because you said for the last 23 years, he could be number one in every position. I'm going to say what I always said to this. Are you going to say he's better than Michael Jordan? I'm going to say I always said to this, Joe. I would say Rich Play is the best coach in the universe. Now, I'm going to say that for my show.

But this is what I'm going to tell you on your show. That's bullshit. This is what I'm going to tell you on your show. This is what I'm going to tell you on your show. You judge guys by what? The rooms that you're in, right? Who come in the rooms that Joe's in? You don't let anybody in the room.

that you go into, right? That's a super fact. But LeBron James is the man. But let me ask you his question. Let me ask you this question, Joe. Since you aren't painting my publisher, I got nothing, whatever. But long story. Listen to this.

What room can Mike go in that LeBron can't? Listen. I'm saying, and by the way. I don't think you want the answer to. Is that? I want to answer. Y'all, that's something, Jay, man. This is a different type of.

But here's what I'm saying. I'm asking you. See, until we get to... I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. And I say it respectfully, though. That's not that. Respectfully.

Answer the question. Ask the question. Who's had sneakers selling for 30 years? Listen, man, no other than ever. I keep jumping from top in the top. I'm not a flag. He's talking about rooms. Yo, Jada.

He's talking about rooms. You're not answering the question. I was a baby when Jordan's came up. You can't get paid. That space jammed was number two. He was just one. Yeah, man, you can't. Not sneakers.

Yeah, what are you talking about? It's not fair to even say that. You think LeBron is better than Michael Jordan. He's talking to him. We're on our show. We on our show. You think LeBron is better than Michael Jordan. Funny.

That's crazy of you. That's fucking nuts. I like the way he just said it. I just had it. Wrong with you to go with. He asked you to the room. I think he could go in any room. that he's. You think that LeBron

James is better than Michael Joy. Put it this way. With room. Can he go in somewhere that he can't go with? If you're on the basketball greatness elevator and you get on and there's key access. No, LeBron is there. He's third. In my category, he's third.

My category opens up. Michael Jordan goes in. Then it actually goes up one flight before LeBron's and Kobe walks in and then it goes up one flight and LeBron walks it that's how I do it

there's nothing wrong with that that's your opinion that's how you speak that me like I'm dizzy no that's your bread and butter you got to protect it let me do it another way no it's not my bread and butter

I've built a real business a real business no no no no no no no no no no no no so the elevator don't stop for you the same way stops for me. In the goat, you said if they get in the goat, he's in the elevator.

No, what I was going to say to you is, what I'm going to say to you is, I'm talking about to the top floor. There's a key that takes you all way up to the top floor. Kobe's go there, the Brains go there, Mike, they both, they all go to that floor. Yeah. You now get access denied.

Yo, Ritz, let me tell you something. Max Kellerman, I try to sign him to the rewind. He said, y'all, I don't really paint my shit like that. I'm saying. I'm sorry. Good luck. sounds like a good idea, but I don't do it. He was the first person I tried to get on a rewinded box.

He's a good guy. You want to sponsor the show? Man, we ain't got nobody sponsoring those shows. We're just sponsoring this show right now, you know what I'm saying? We're just taking the average and call, you know. We're building the business, you know? What makes you go with New Balance instead of Nike with all the fucking affiliation? I don't know a lot of you.

I think I do want to sponsor the show. But, yeah, continue. Like, let's talk about it, yeah. No, no, no. Talk about it. So just put us in the lower paper tier. What's that? What's that tier three?

No, no, tier three. I'll be picked number three. Let me hear. You may be able to? In 2019, I did a million-dollar internship with Kid Darius Basley. That kind of expedited, NIL, instead of him going to college, sent him to work at New Balance.

And he learned an actual business that was directly aligned to where he was gone. Like, he can't play basketball without shoes. But what I really wanted him to learn was everything that goes into it, you know, the marketing of it, how a company choose the athlete, the making of it, you know, the cutting saw, all the different silhouettes of the shoes and all that. But I knew that because he wasn't going to college, that the NBA teams would have to call somebody to see how he, perform, you know, what his habits was like. They can't call college coach. So he went to Boston, lived in Boston, trained before work, went to work and trained afterward. And because of that, he still ended up going in the first round, signed a deal with New Balance, and then that started our relationship. And it's a family-owned business. So there's not a lot of bureaucracy so I can get right

to the decision makers. Just build the relationship and then came up. with the idea everyone else could have a shoe why can a CEO have a shoe for the right? And then they like that idea. First one did really well, second one did really well. And now we're on this third one. Let me see, put it up on the joint

because I ain't really I'm looking. How about I do for you what you didn't do for me, Joe? I'm just going to give you a own pair. How about let me give you own. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The tip of it. I tell you, I'll tell you, Miss Ball, man.

That's it, Joe. I'm a 12, brother. They know my size in the shoe game. Yeah. They know what it is. So, but when you think about it, I was just thinking about the joint. I love that. Comfortable.

Very comfortable. Fire. And the creative came from me. That's why I had this. It's all around being unbothered. And so if you unbothered, it's more so just like that. I'm focused. See the box.

Yeah. I'm locked in. And the colorway came from just this idea of like, when you a kid, you go to school, come home, just want your juice box, everybody leave me alone, but at least for 10 minutes. When you're a adult, you go to work, you come home, just want your glass of wine. So that started the foundation of colorway.

They kind of built on that. Then it's kind of like unbothered by what? Pretty much everything. Critics, opinions, naysayers, people that stay talking but never really did. anything, you know, all that type. And so it's actually, this is the color way going to retail. It's a friend's their family color way, that lighter color way is on the box.

So, y'all get both. You got a big mic a little closer, brother. Come on, bro. Because you're so spoken gentleman. That's a flat. Let me tell you. Go to Mike closer? You got that shit long distance over now.

Oh, my. You got that shit. You got that shit. You all. I thought you was sharp today. I'm super sharp. Yeah. Because even when I fuck up, I win.

That's true. That's the point. Yeah. Okay? So, and New Balance has just been great. Been great partners every step of the way. From Clutch Athletics, been with New Balance, signing guys like Maxie and Garland and Levine and, you know,

DeJonte. Who do you represent? Could you give us a list? By the way, everybody. if y'all don't know who rich ball is because I guess you're guilty by association even me all I think about is LeBron but you represent a bunch of superstar athletes can you just give us a list but here's the thing I think people don't understand how important it is for you to be given an opportunity right so I got to be thankful for LeBron because at the end of the day I've got to

this place from a perception of people thought you were extra and today I'm an executive at the highest level, right? So that road travel, it has to start somewhere. That starts with the opportunity that I tell everybody around talent, whether you're artists, whether you athletes. These guys don't owe you anything. They really don't. And you don't have to know everything either.

But what you need to know is what you're actually capable of doing so you can be a value add in the room. The problem is the idea of living like Joe and Jada is not really a good idea. The idea of living like me and how I live in terms of when you next to the athlete and stand in that space, it's what the focus should be.

Because then that don't allow you to skip steps. A lot of people get to the point and skip steps. So I'm thankful for the opportunity of LeBron Gay. but my ultimate respect for the opportunity that he gave and for him was the position I stand in now because I'm no longer dependent of him

and that's the most important thing you can do is become independent of the person that actually gave you that opportunity because they didn't have to give it to you. So that's a blessing. My thought process was to go and build and build something and when you asked me a question earlier

about the bags, it's not a thing. That's how many bags you don't caught to the point that we use. Just like, got another one. I never, the thing about it is I never focus on a bag. You got to focus on a disruption of an industry that's going to bring all the bags, you know. And bags come in different shapes and sizes, but also it's not so much as currency is more so positioning. Because that's the actual bag.

The bag ain't the money. The bag is the position. When it comes to this audiovisual, Me and you, we position real right. Be on the top tier. Now, but it's true. But to ask you a question, we represent over 600 clients today.

600? 600. Wow, shit. Yeah. Clap it off of that. What? So what? Tennis, all type of shit?

So a couple of years ago, we acquired, my partner's at UTA, a company called Roof, which is like 170 European footballers, which is great. Then we grew the football business. Obviously, the basketball business grew a little bit of baseball. But then we have a commercial side of the business that's really grown at a rapid pace.

And we're doing unbelievable work. And, you know, this stuff, you don't do it by yourself. You got an unbelievable team of people. That's right. And I think when you start at one place and obviously started the company, I started the company because I felt like players was only being viewed as transactions. And I knew them as people coming from that side, working at shoe companies. I played every role, though.

I don't know if people really understand. I played literally every row. Break that down, us, man. That's important for the people. I played every role from stylist to I decided the jury to watch how to do, put the lay together, all the way to being in commercials, writing on commercials. writing on commercials, all the way to picking the, you know,

we did a commercial walking my shoes. And Callet was actually calling me on this crazy back then. They wanted to use this Curtis Mayfield sample. And I was like, nah, let's do something different from LJ because it was, you know, he was so connected to the culture. Long story short, end up getting with Mike Will

through my man Chubby, may rest of peace early. And Chubby. Chubby, I was just happy to be talking to Chubby one day on the phone. He was asking me what I was working on. I was like, man, I'm trying to figure this thing. No Chubby, baby, no yesterday's price is not today's price. He threw the battery in my back that day after the battle.

He was talking someone's shit. I went and threw the IG on and explaining the fucking verses. That's how I came up with yesterday's price is not to Chubby, baby, through the battery in my back. Yeah. That led me to get on the phone with Mike Wilson. It was like we need a hook for this. He was, I'm going to call this kid.

He called Sam Hook. Sam Hook wrote the hook. Sent it to me. Listen to it. Like, who you hear on this. And by us being from Ohio and John Legend being from Ohio, he wouldn't have got John Legend. So, like, going from the clothes to the jewelry to this,

that's what I'm saying. People don't really understand, like, the journey. And by the way, we were still around. I mean, I've been around y'all for, I don't know, 20 plus years. But it's just one of those things where you, it's okay to wait your turn and be observant while waiting your turn,

not being, what I would say, eager to be entitled. Because there's an eagerness to entitlement when you're around talent. And it works even worse when you're actually blood. What you're going to do, firing your brother.

Then I had to hear my mom. Then I had to hear my, you know, so it gets a little, it gets a little tricky. So I'm glad I was not actual. But I've always had this mentality to build and to want to learn more and not know, know it all, sort of speak. And that kind of just led to other things, not really being complacent as you have more success. I've never really celebrated anything that I've been able to do up to this point, though,

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You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You are. I'm lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your Podcasts.

I can tell you two biggest mistakes. This business, back in the day, say Ra Kim, one of the greatest artists in the world, he would wait every four years to drop an album. Somehow when we first started, rappers, even if they were ready to make an album, they were bullshit for two, three years, and then drop an album.

That's just the way it was. The Little Wayne and them started dropping, and DMX started dropping albums every six months. He dropped two in one year, yeah. Two in one year, that's when people know. knew, oh shit, we could drop. But before then, it was like, hurry up and wait. It was like, you know, and so...

You're sitting in your successes when you do that. I'm trying to tell you. You can't do that. Because when you do that, it becomes settlement. What I'm saying to you is, same thing with bags. Back in the days, I'd get a million dollars, two million dollars. I live in Miami. I'm like, yo, I'm not going out.

I'm not going to work. I'm going to hit the clubs, pop bottles, pop champagne, to the shit. look like it's running out, then I go out there and get the bag again. Big mistake. Big mistake. That bag has to be the opposite way. You actually got to work more, right? So now it's like the horse.

Let that go. The horse, taxes investment, that the horse just be like, yo, we got to keep working. We got to keep going. I wasn't like that. But nobody was. But you also didn't have the examples. You got to think we come from a totally different environment.

You come from a flip environment, not a compounding environment. See, we only thought about the flip. They think about the compounding of it all. It's a totally different mentality. So break down the difference between flip, real quick, flip and compounding. I have 10. This is a learning show. Yeah, I have $10.

I want to make $20. That's flipping. Compounding is I have $10. I'm putting that $10 away. Don't, I'm not touching it for the next 10 years. and that $10 becomes, let's just say for a sake, 100 grand. So if you go 10 to 20, 20 to 40, 40 to 80, 80 to 160 versus 10, work, that's 100. Now you compound that 100.

How do you do when you got an athlete that you represent that has six babies in one year? Do you have a real conversation with them or you? Yeah. I have a justification for having that real conversation. because I lived it, right? I don't, you know, growing up, you lived it. So that was one of the things

that I felt like the industry was missing. These guys, they can't. You're not. Unrelatable. You can't relate, and you really don't care. See, that's the thing that goes over the head of most.

But when you have, all talent has an ego. We all do, right? But talent, especially how I, level of so if you're feeding that ego with sweets

while everything is going good, you miss out on a lot per se. But the vegetables and the nourishment don't sound good at the time where I'm at a highest level. It only

sounds great in need. You miss that conversation when it don't matter. I got 20 cards. I got this, this, that. I ain't trying to hear that. That's talent. today. But it should be the other way around. A lot of talent don't value expertise, especially in a sports business because everyone thinks they can do your job. We work the hardest. It don't matter. I can't write like Jada. I can't write like Joe. I can't perform it. But in sports,

because you grow up so close to the player, I'm taking the practice, I'm doing this, doing that everyone thinks that they can do the job because the talent is shown and the talent is actually the work. I have one of the biggest problems in the world with a good friend of mine. He was a good friend of mine, but his thing was, you know,

he thought he could manage me, right? He would tell me, yo, can I have meetings with Jay-Z? This is a street dude that ain't never have a 9-to-5 in his life. But he dead-ass was asking me that, yo, let me be Jay-Z, I got some ideas, yo, I should manage you. Anybody that wants to work and my crew has a job. Anybody. I employ maybe 100 people, maybe even more.

Anyone of my friends that I grew up with that wants a job able to work, bring something to the table, they have a job. You see them everywhere in the stores, this and that. Now, if I know this guy, I don't want to work, never had a nine or five in this life never did nothing successful, but just float around the hood, hustle to hustle to hustle. He didn't understand, yo, bro, you're not qualified to be my manager

and run my career. You just can't do it. He had a problem with it. He kept telling everybody, tell her at the end, it was like, you know, we had to fall out, fall out, fall out, fall out. Because he had to know, like, you're my man, you never had a nine to five. But see, I never really had nine to five either. No, I get that, but we know. who's qualified or who's going to put in that work.

But here's the thing. I always tell people with your friend, right? If I would have talked to him, I would have said, no, you don't need to meet with J.C. Go and find a guy with the qualifications that Joe would see to meet with JZ. You're still getting the credit. If I bring the guy to you with the qualification and the capabilities,

you're going to be like, oh, shit. Now I'm building a little equity in that bank of your trust. trust from a business perspective. You're my friend. I trust you from that perspective, but from a business perspective, it's different. Now you make the left. I only had one friend.

I ever trusted blinding, right? Rest of peace, my brother Raoul. When I signed my big deal and I negotiated, I had a deal, right? Young, big punk comes out. He's selling like crazy. Every record label's like, Fat Joe, we need the next Spanish guys.

So we sit down and they wouldn't let me go. I was in one of them negotiations where they were like, yo, you can't leave. We're going to work this thing. We're going to sit in this. Kaiser. Kaiser did that to me. You know, fine.

That's who did that. Kaiser did that? No, it wasn't Kaiser. It was Craig Calman. But the point. Same thing. Both. That's the same thing.

The point I'm saying is we close the deal. We jump up and down. Yo, wow, we made it. When kids, we came from the street, street, street. To get a legit check like that, we felt like we robbed the planet Earth. We walk out. Yo, part of my management team,

I got a meeting tomorrow, one o'clock. I see you tomorrow, one o'clock. One o'clock, come, two o'clock, come three o'clock, come four o'clock, come five o'clock, come six. It's seventh. I get a call. You know, what's up, God? You're Raoul, we had a meeting.

One of a client. I got three bitches here. Maybe I was here all the... I said, okay, Raoul. It's not for you. It's not for you. Yeah. This is one of my most trusted guys I love to death in my life.

I had to tell them all for it. Like, yo, this ain't for you. Yeah. You ain't on point with... That's K-YP. That's what? K-Y-P. What's that?

Know your personnel. Know your personnel. Know your personnel? Yeah. I mean, I know every rule. I've been doing business for so long. I know every rule. I ain't got to read the 48 laws.

I ain't got a K-YP. I've been through every scenario and you can fucking address. Oh, that's this. I don't get to fuck. I've been through all that shit. You know what I'm saying? And I gave opportunities even when I knew that certain people ain't need opportunities.

Well, that's that's survivors' remorse, too. Yes. Part of that is that. Survivor's remorse. When you try to bring everybody with you, I went through that. You know what I'm trying to do? But that thing is hard. I'm blessed because I don't really have that.

You don't have many friends like that that you grew up with? I have a ton of friends that I grew with, but we all was together. We just have a, it's a strange dynamic that I have my friends that was positioned with me. So we have a different perspective on it. Right. And then there's a pride that comes with it, obviously. You understand that. But I tell them right away.

I'm not obligated to do nothing for you, especially now. You want to know what's crazy is. I've been through so much in my life. Somebody told me the other day, I'm looking at some shit. Somebody I know knows the person. And he turned around and said, yo, dude's a bump.

Be you in my bump. Immediately, like a fucking flower blooming. I said, I understood because I met some bums in my life Bums don't want to work

want to do the foulish shit to get it to this a bum is a I know women Bums I'm talking about bums You know what a bum is

A bum is If you gave them the most money in the world They would have holes In their war in the mansion They'll be sliding down the stairs They will fuck your shit up They don't give a fuck they are going to be bums

where any they can hit the lottery and they're going to be bums no matter what the fuck they do. It's sad that I've been dealing with so many different type of people that the minute someone told me somebody I trusted yo, he's a bum.

I said, okay, I got it. I know what this is. I don't got to deal with him or nothing. I'm watching social media. I was like, nah, that's a bum. He's a bum. When you know him, he's a bum. I'm like, okay.

So he's about to cross somebody, about the shit on everything, this, this, this. You know, these guys are, you know, I met people like that. That there's nothing you could do to change them. You give them anything, you could polish them. You could take an up-and-coming rapper, polish them. Throw the gear on them, the jury to this, this, this, this, this. A bum is a bum. We're not going to throw the flag.

What do I do now? Take an up-and-coming rapper and do. What? Up and coming rapper. Throw the jury on them, throw it, you know, get them the image, that everything. Your boy, baby, that coffee is like it.

The minute, I used to hustle. Now all I do is relax. And I was a fan of the Jackson Fob, but listen, I used to hustle. And I was second in command without going in further, right? And I did good, and I used to hear these guys.

In my face all the time. I thank you for not killing me for my slot. That's one thing I learned later. I said, man, you were something else, but they didn't kill you in the fucking staircase. It should have killed me a couple of times because I was in the way. Right? But I would hear them say all the time,

yo, fuck Joe, you know, why is Joe running the show this, this, this, this. We all equal. We all grew up together as kids. Like Cinderella, I leave the drug game alone, but we was making tons of money be. to rap. Did Apollo get a deal? I'm gone.

We had a run. You hear me? Everybody bends out, be my out, this and that. They took over less than three to six months. They was bums.

Back on the block. Bums! Like, they had a gold mine. All you got to do is open a shop and you, and you kicked up.

They found the way to bum it out. And all these years, I'm working with these guys. I keep hearing. them say, yo, why Joe's second? Why Joe this, this, this? They couldn't do nothing with it.

You know, so it's certain people, you know, it's like the horse, you need them the water. And the motherfucker, you know, if they're not going to drink, it's over. Shoot them in the head. How do you deal with, like, you know, it's a very hard job. Like, how do you deal when you know, uh, yo, bro, I don't dealt with athletes.

I don't dealt with athletes that, you know, you know your mom's just getting take advantage of if you see how they're in with the young dude and you kicked up and your mom's like I don't feel I don't know what you still got to deal like what do you do you do when you tell a guy like do you tell a guy like yo tell your mom to get rid of a boyfriend no do they know that's not my place I don't I don't really get

into that but I thought you was going to ask me a different question. What did you thought I was going to ask you? I thought you were going to ask me, what do you do when a guy gets to, like, the NBA, but don't really take advantage of it or not really, you know, they satisfy. No, I was not talking about that. I was talking about when you see one of your athletes just getting taken advantage of. Well, it depends.

I don't. Family stuck, you don't get involved. Nah, it's not my place. Man, I've seen that shit so much where I was just like, but you know me, I'm dumb like that. You're involved? Yeah, if I got an artist and I really love you and all that, I'm going to sit you down and tell you, yo, and I'm discovering a lot of artists.

I could break that down to you. And I would tell them, like, yo, you fucking up or you dis and this. Well, no, that's different. What you're going to take you out of here. That's three different things. Okay. There's a difference between keeping it very authentic and honest with someone you represent

and getting in the middle of something that has to do with them and their wife or whatever. Those are separate. Yeah, you can't do that. I lost every time. Every time I ever try to tell my friend, you're going to see your wife. Yeah, yeah, you can't. Every time, let me tell you guys, if you want your friend and you see his wife doing something you don't really like, unfortunately, you got to stay out of that area because they're going to be.

make up. You're going to be a big. And now you're the bad. It happened to me. Legendary. At first, I thought it was keeping it real. I bring the dude to his wife. Like, yo, look, what's going on?

This next thing I know, I'm not his man no more like that. He back with his wife. I give up on that. I did learn, though, the 10 days I spent in college. I learned that one of the 10 days I had in college. I saw my friend. He was playing ball and a junior, a juco. I got the flip joint

I'm in the student center I didn't give them the whole I'm just like you might need to check home man just you know the next day I'm back in the student I get to Egg McMuffin joint every morning here they come

I'm like oh are you so my man yeah yeah you I like so from there but also I learned I learned that from my uncles and aunts You just learn so much. I just don't. Stay honest.

Yeah, that stuff you can't. But I was in trouble because I used to really lead with my heart. Yeah. I would sit down and tell somebody, yo, you should watch this and this and that and they would take it wrong or maybe like I'm too strong or whatever. But I'm like, you know, the way I look at it, but you're dealing with a different, you're dealing with athletes.

They know when they 10 years old, they're going to the league if they stay straight. We're dealing with dysfunctional motherfuckering. rappers, all type of shit. They ain't got no farther their whole life. And I, Joseph Carter, Gina, give them the opportunity. It's my choice.

If I like two-time a felon or not to make him a rapper, use all my juice, to give him the beats, to produce this, to ask Jada kiss to rap on his record, to this or this or that, to now they're millionaires.

Right? You gave them that. Like that was the opportunity they was looking for, you know. And so sometimes you want to give them some advice when you see them headed straight forward crash. You'd be like, yo, you know, you're going to fuck this up. You know, that's how I deal with it on another level. But, you know, most people ain't never really understand

what I was trying to tell them until years later where I had conversations with them. It was like, yo, I wish I shouldn't listen to you. A lot of people I wish I would have listened. And you said it earlier. You know, you're young, right? So you want to know what's up with rap today? I don't understand it today.

I'm not just honest. I can't even... But what I'm trying to tell you is about somebody telling me, yo, why you don't talk to them young boys, Joe, you're the OG. They don't want to listen. They don't want to hear you.

You got a young boy. The survival rate, fuck a survival rate, the getting on rate and rapping, being successful. It's a lot of guys. Every time I see somebody die on the news that they say rapper Copolapa beat, we never heard of this person.

What makes them a rapper? That's the easiest thing. Qualifies them, Jada. I'm looking at the news. She's an aspiring rapper. Bitch ain't got a demo. No. So I'm keeping it a buck, right?

So I turn around, let alone a survival rate. I've been telling people this all the time, and this is why people, they get mad at me sometimes. Because I got to tell you the truth. You think because you black or brown, you got an evil hoop or you got a rap. And that's it. It's in your mind.

You're doing one or the other. Right? And so they come and they go, yo, you know, I'm a rapper, but there's somebody coming to you. It's three people coming to your show. Is anybody downloading your raps? Is anybody so you're not really,

this is not really a professional, a professionalist fit. Easy is saying for the news this is. Yeah, but you got one percent that makes it in rap. I understand that. Our business is a lot different. What's similar to that is there's times like rankings in our business. So you can be ranked number one.

But I wasn't. Let me finish this story because I'm going to forget. You know, I get the Alzheimer's and all that. Listen to what I'm saying. How can I talk to a young kid that I know is the exception? He's beyond the one percent. He's less than the 1% that he became successful.

How can I sit and tell that 19-year-old kid that made $20 million and got his whole crew around him and all like, yo, this ain't there. You got to get focused. He don't want to hear that shit from me. No. He's straight up like...

I don't know the answer to that, Joe. Yeah, you can't tell him anything. Not today. You got a lot of dumb athletes, too. It's a lot of dumb athletes. Switch to. No, I'm telling you the truth. These motherfuckers are dumb.

I used to coach it to Wucker. Oh, my God. Listen. Oh, my God. Listen. By the way, just so you know, I was there, blackout. We flew in. I was going to drop 50 on your team.

Ooh. 50. We had Alan. I talked about it. We talked about. Alan Iverson. We had Carmelo Anthony. We had Stefan Marlberry.

We had everybody. So they all would have been dropping 50. You were going to lose. If you ask you kill O'Neill, you win. If you just got LeBron straight out of high school, you're not winning that game, bro. We had the biggest in the game there, too. We had Carmelho right after the championship.

We had Stefan Marbury, highest paid player in the league at that time. We had Alan Arvison. We have Mike Bibby. How more you want, you want Zach Randolph? You want Jermaine O'Neill? You want, like, who the fuck we didn't have? We listened. Oh, no.

Brother. You didn't have, listen. That was a young bra. That was a prince. He wasn't the king yet. By the way, Catholic school. When that blackout hit, Joe,

there was nobody on the planet mattered than I was. I wasn't even thinking about the blackout. I wanted to be in that atmosphere. The shit was going to be crazy. The game that never happened. I was also in the radio station.

Talk about it. People forget that. It was great. It was great. I loved every bit of it. I loved every bit of it. bit of it. What's that story you told?

Over was in the air going to Paris, by the way. No, he wasn't. He was there for the blackout. He was in the rest. No, no, he was there. Didn't either. He left that time. Cool and Dre pulled up.

Cool and Dre pulled up. All right, listen, Coul and Dre pulled up, and they saw Jay Z in the back. He was out there. Then it was the blackout. He left when they were scheduled it for two days later. Yeah. That's when I believe you guys were here.

The day of the game, the makeup game, I did not see. players coming out of the over after that. We left the next day. That's all of that hype. It was over. We left the next day. The hype of the first game with the blackout was never going to be. We left the next day. Cheers, they were acting like they were here.

They went to the radio. They were talking. No, we was here. What do you mean? No, no, no, no, no. For the next game. Oh, no. And they schedule him. When I come. Nobody was hit. Okay, by the way, I walk in with my players. They seen them out there. There's pictures of all my players out there.

These guys never came. We was back at. We was back. They were gone. Everybody was back in camp and all that. Everybody, I was there. We won by Palford. Nobody came. What you want me to do?

You got Shaquille Neal, you win. You don't? It was a game. I think we did. I'm talking about AI. I'm talking about Mike Bibi when he's an all-star at that time. I'm talking about Stefan Moorberry. Sebastian Telfair, we already know he wasn't going to.

He ain't had nothing for Stefan. Yo, you're crazy, man. This was a good game. It was going to be a good game. Thank God it didn't happen because I wouldn't be sitting in Rock Nation getting money with these people. That thing was a disaster waiting to happen.

That was one step, a boom junior mafia clears the room. That shit was a terrible thing. After that radio, that shit had me. It went from Fat Joe to basketball to Fat Joe Army fatigue. It was like, oh, no, these guys talk to great. You know, one time people, you know,

now comments and all that, One time people were very selective with how they talked about fat Joe out there. Very, it was a different time. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news.

We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.

So how do we actually come up with a name? Hey Jonas, guys. I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Can we do toast for the sneaker and Rich Paul just blessing us with his presence? The new show, what's it called? Game over. Game over. Yeah, you know what that means.

I like Max Kellman. One of the best in the games. in this game mode. You go. I'll give you one more thing. Cancun, 2004. Talk your shit,

Rich, Paul. Tell them who was there. Just paint the picture. Listen, what S&S did for lean back, you never seen it. How many times

the man played that shit out there? A hundred times in a row. BMF was out there. A hundred times in a row. Everybody who mattered was out there in that Cancun. It was the illest party of Memorial Weekend. In both, from City to Daddy-O's.

City, there's only two clubs. Yeah, yeah. So we're going across the street there. But S&S, by the way, one's best. It was... He's one of the greatest. You know, we still employ S&S. We still give him shows all the time.

Anybody kept the lawyer with us? Anybody who didn't take the bag at that blackout time, they still my brothers and we still take care of them, Nobody took the bag. Yeah, they had a lot of bags out there. They tried to hire. They took my man John Strick. That's my player about it.

Strict was my player. They took Strick was that dude. They flipped him. They tried to flip. Corrine. They left him a bag. Corrine Reed? Carim Reed.

Yeah. And he was my name. If we know, no, no, Corrine Reed, I have no championship. Speaking of trolling, where's my... Well, I can't even, I don't even want him now. But 20 years ago, I got you rich on the, Joe, I need those joints. We had them on. I got you rich.

Never, never. You got to remind me. No sneakers. No. It's crazy. Don't send me the plastic T.S. joint that you get to the kids. Let me tell you something. Thank you for the sneakers.

Thank you for the sneakers you gave us in the new show, Game Over. We know it's going to be highly successful. You know what I'm saying? we know it's going to be Holly, you're a funny dude. You know, I'm with you in the champions. All right, let's take the sip. Let me tell you about Rich Paul.

We're in the championship game. We're in the Knicks is in the championship game. One of your players lost. Who they was playing for? Boston or something like that last year. Or the year before, sixes. That was the sixers. So the ego.

Maxi. Yeah. So I'm on the court. Rich Paul comes on. Yo, crap, what's up? This, this, dad. He said, yo, my player, I said, them guys got packed up. They got to go.

Next morning, I fly to L.A. I got a meeting at the polo lounge. And I'm up in there. I'm talking about nine in the morning. I'm eating at the portal house. And I look to the right, Rich Paul's in the next table. Hey, Joe, how you doing? Like, yo, Rich Paul?

That day you learn fat Joe's. He's everywhere. That guy across the country. He knew that. already. No, man, I look to the side. I said, God, damn, that guy out here nine in the morning.

Like, what? We was on the same flight at some shit. That shit crazy. Brian from Akron, you from Cleveland? I'm from Cleveland, yeah. How important is it to give back? Two ways to give back. In ways that's helpful

in ways that's impactful. Passing out turkeys and things like that, that's helpful. The impactfulness is being able to create things that provide opportunities. You also give them. back through education too. I think when people say give back is like, oh, you didn't give you nothing

to go in my pocket. Not a physical thing. Yeah. Education is incredible. What I did out there with that school is amazing. So for me, my give back is, I give back in a number of ways. And I don't want nothing for, I do a lot of things that I don't want no pub

from it. Sometimes I do things that people don't even know. I've done things people don't even know. It came for me. But it's very important, though, because I was one of those kids that the community raised and I was one of those kids that y'all came to

the what was the strip club? The strip club raised you and you were more like y'all it was it on Cleaner States camp. Community strip club y'all had a show I was there it was on Cleaning States I forgot what it was

but anyway I'll tell you one thing right I tell you my father from Cuba the rest of peace no my father never gave me a compliment in life. Okay, he never said great song, even though he was Cuban. Thank you for buying me my home 20 years ago, whatever. It's nothing. I paid their bills for 30 years. The only time he ever

gave me a compliment was when he seen me in the middle of the street giving out turkeys and feeding the people. He said, that makes me proud. I'm proud of you, son, for looking out for the people. And so there's many ways you're correct. There's many ways there's ways to inspire. You know, we got stores. Our stores, I saw that with your dad. Huh? I saw that with your dad. Yeah, we got two stores with single parent

moms, all the managers. One of them just bought a first home ever. There's so many different ways of giving back and impacting the community. You just got to do it. And the problem I got is the people that don't

give back, complaining about somebody giving back. So it's never enough. It's never how you do it. So you got, we got a best friend, grumpy Jim Jones, right? But now, Jim Jones gives back. Okay. Jim Jones don't give back because right there, I see him give back all the time in the community, whether it's clothes, whether it's coats, whether it's turkeys, whether it's this. He's front line with the giving back. I don't know what happened, but I could tell the lady skipped the line three times.

I'm out there. I'm outside. Like, I'm there. I'm on the line. I see the six family members. I know the more. They all waiting for the turkey with the grocery. The six. The daughter, the son, the this. At some point, you could say, yo, you know, some people. You only got one of. You took six turkeys and the voucher for the food. I know. I just choose to mind my business. You know, Jim out there, he gets a little man. The lady skipped three times. I didn't see it. You make him look like. Like, yeah, it's all over social media, but it make him look like he a bad guy because he loses patience. But anybody who from the hood hood know they're trying to skip the line, you know? And so I look at the comments and everybody read posts. They talk bad about somebody, but you ain't given that. You ain't changed them people.

Well, that's why you got to do. The fact of being unbiased on, you can't worry about what somebody talking about on social media. Showing the hood. Show them to show. Yeah. That's what, you know, can't worry about that. Yeah, I do.

And I want to smoke whatever. But you can't. I want every on your old is you. No, we're putting our foot in your ass even when we don't. Yeah, but here's what I tell you. Legendary shit.

Right now, let me tell you, you better study this podcast. Because we are changing the whole DNA. This is entertainment. This is like coming home to watch Martin a fucking Cosby show. It's just, it's just, it ain't the

No, for sure. We didn't look one time. So, Mr. Paul, when you graduated high school, that shit dinosaur. By the way, I told my team, they gave me this thing in the car. It's like, oh, you know, here's the talking points. I was like, these guys aren't following that. I can guarantee you they're not doing that. We're shooting this shit from the hit.

I told him that. Asked about life. Yeah. But, you know, my team is, they alter, pair, which I'm thankful for. But I thought about it. I'm like, Joe and Jason, they're not following. It can't be it.

They don't look like our guys. They don't look. What a it's just look like? Our guys look like they know what's the boobonic, chronic. They know this, this shit. Nah, no. Let me tell you some. You wrote them with that, Joe.

Your guys, they all got the lines here. Those guys out of them staff. Listen. Our staff is great. Let me tell you something. We have a great staff. Ain't none of them got the line. like him.

You see them shit? He's out of batting Jalen Rose with that shit. He got the shit. Two women here for me. Yeah, yeah, the old point. Listen, let me tell you something. Yo, we're spoiled boy. Use the spool of God, man.

Let me tell you said, but this is not dinosaur. Not. And I lately, because I'm in the game, every now and then I lurk and I look at a little something, and I say, damn, they everything we know. I'm just keeping it a buck.

I want everybody. get a dollar. But they ain't us. We're entertaining. We drop in knowledge. Who closest to you? Who are closest to you? Who do you think? Like, closest to us?

Yeah. Don't get, no. He's about to tell you something's crazy. Don't Luke. No. They're not us. You want to know why? Because we're Chuck and Shaq. We got the chips, my. Kenny, you got the Kenny leg.

I got the Kenny leg. Yeah. I got the Kenny Smith. I'm more like Kenny. Huh? Yo, this dude. We chucking kidding. Yeah, you know why your man here.

Your trainer here. Yo, you got to show me how to straighten the leg out, man. I can't take this shit no more. I'm an outcatching nightmare. Who he wears, new balance, to die. Hold on, hold up. Is there a way your man to train him? Nothing else.

Your kiss. He can't give him anything. Giant barfetenders. Is there a way for me to straighten out my leg, like, legally? Oh, is it like an operation? He knows about Calistinic. He don't know about fucking boasts. He knows the human body.

He knows the one trainer. He don't know about both legs. He can't wait for me to straighten how my sister are fucked up for life. The accident, can he fix his leg? He can't fix your leg. He can fix your chest and shoulders and all.

But that it gives you to look off your leg is straight, right? There's a way to do it, right? Serge, okay. Joe. My son said me some shit of operation for my leg. He got them fucked up out there. They think of my leg, yo. Lords of London.

No. Up in YC, we got these, these are snow shits. This is like having a heater on. These are snow. He's fired. Those are fire. That's up in my sea.

Yeah, I mean, hopefully. That's the time when you get the right show. Give me a 10 in a half. Then they fucked them. With a storage. I got to go back. Stores up to town, the Bronx, all in Washington,

nice. They gave him a 12 in a 10 and a half, Timbo. He came up here. He was like, yo, you know, a sales drop. What he ate that?

Yo, yo, yo, yo, your word is gold in the hood. Our sales dropped after that.

Oh, Lord, ladies and gentlemen, I went back, they took care of me. They had a crispy box for me, they gave me the right size. Make sure you shop that up,

man. Your word is golden. Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. When you hit him with the bounty? When you hit him with the bounty? Right now, Kiss is dressed in his age,

and to me, he's flat. You know, Now, a lot of they call us tweenagers and shit like that. No, they call you. They're talking about if you got a quarter zipper or something, you are old man on that. Now, the quarter zippers, I just copped the $4,000 quarter zippers shirt.

Crack, quarter zips is in. No, the quarter zippers is in. He just pats of the $4,000 quarter zipper. Nah, the quarter zippers is not reading it. They say they're sitting there. They try fucking disrespect. Air Force One. They say his granddad's shoes.

Yeah, I ain't. Yeah, that can't be. Oh, you with New Ballas. Yeah, you like a Don King. You like a Don King. Don King coming to ring with a Mexican and Puerto Rican flying. Whoever won, that's the shit. He's walking on the way.

Joe, when you put... Him motherfucking like that. He came with the winner and he left with the Winner. Let's Sacconi. Let's Sikoni. That nigga be like Saccone. No. Nah, that's not going to happen, Joe.

When you put these on? I know it's got there. Yo, Rich, Paul, you're a fool, motherfucker. Watch how you... Joe, when you put the layout, put them joints up there. Oh, no, we want to do it. By the way, you had to get a whole new... You got to come...

Everything. I brought a class... Don't do that. I brought a classic out. No, who don't do that? You don't do that. I believe... I don't wait for him to find me a day, too.

I don't want to... Hopefully this Christmas. Hopefully my business partner, I'm not doing that. Hopefully my business partner give me a Daytona for Christmas. I got a gift for you, by the way. I got a gift coming for you, by the-oh.

Oh, you get the Daytona? Get into the Lamonts for Christmas. I never said nothing about no day-tron or not. Oh, no. It might be a fucking lettuce wrap because he's so vegetarian-ish. Might be a lettuce rap. This shit might be nobody.

I got a gift for you, though. That's no bullshit. I got a nice, thoughtful gift for you that you're going to truly enjoy. My brother. What's a watch? Who wants an extra white? But, oh, your wrist ball.

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