The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Teyana Taylor on 'Escape Room,' working with Beyoncé & Leonardo DiCaprio + DEBUTS NEW TRACK!

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by the multi-talented Harlem native Teyana Taylor to discuss her new album ‘Escape Room,’ its lead single “Bed of Roses,” and her upcoming role in Paul Thomas Anderson’s ‘One Battle After Another’ alongside Leonardo DiCaprio. Joe and Jada ask Teyana about choreographing Beyoncé’s “Ring The Alarm” video at only 15 years old, her time with Ye (formerly Kanye West) and GOOD Music, her iconic performance in the “Fade” video off Ye’s ‘Life of Pablo’ album, and her new relationship with English actor Aaron Pierre. Teyana also debuts the new track “The Hard Part” off her upcoming album, and Joe and Jada wish her well before her upcoming vocal cord surgery. 3:30 - Joe & Jada have known Teyana since a kid 14:00 - Teyana on “Bed of Roses” single 22:00 - Choreographing Beyoncé’s “Ring The Alarm” at 15 30:00 - “Fade” video 34:00 - Teyana on NEW ALBUM ‘Escape Room’ 46:00 - Teyana’s upcoming vocal cord surgery 59:00 - Working with Leonardo DiCaprio 1:11:30 - Gearing up for tour & advice for young Teyana 1:14:00 - Teyana DEBUTS “The Hard Part” on Joe and Jada [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.]See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What the bigger question is, is what exactly are we talking about? Fake pork chops. He must be hungry because he can't talk about food. Do we need to hold that? Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? This is Joe Cratt. Your boy, Jada, know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. And without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, we like to.

Welcome, my beautiful guest, Tiana Taylor. Make some noise. Hey, y'all. What's popping? What's going on? Well, I'm just so happy you hear, man. You know, my family, we celebrate you. And so, like, you're one of the favorite artists, my wife's favorite artist.

My daughter loves you. She big everywhere. But in my household. So I know all that. That's my household. I was dizzy to, I made it. I made it. Hey.

Like they had that all super repeat when it came out. So it's an honor to have you here. Thank you. They told me not to talk much, but I got to set it off. I'm going to be honest with you. I know Tiana, it's crazy.

I'm looking at your daughter right now, and I think I met you about that age. About that age. And I'm in Harlem coaching at the Rucker, and you pull up in that famous, that world famous, bike of yours. And the reason why this is such a ill...

First time I ever met it, she had that bike. She was on the bike tour? Yeah, that's crazy. Around the same time? I don't know if it was the same. But when I ever first seen it, she was on a bike, I'm like, who's that? Like, no, that's TV.

You know what's crazy is? I meet so many people. Right? I've been doing this 30-something years. And I met so many people who told me, Joe, I'm going to be rich. I'm going to be a billionaire. Even Angie Martinez laughs at me.

Because she said the first time I met her, I was like, yo, I'm going to be the biggest. And she was like, yeah, right. And so you out of nowhere, you pull up on me and you're like, yo, I need to meet Farrell. Like, you got to introduce me to Farrell. I'm going to be his next artist. And I'm like, yo, this girl, she flies, she little. But I mean, she got big dreams. And to see everything you ever predicted at that age to come to fruition,

how did you know? Because you had to know when you was young. Like, did you, how did you know, did you say, y'all, I'm special? God made me special? Because for real, though, you have to have a certain type of blessing and confidence to just predict all that in the future and it actually become true. I mean, first and foremost, I got a lot of prayer warriors. That's first.

I feel like I'm covered, you know? But secondly, I think it's just some cocky Harlem shit. Like, that's just Harlem shit in general. We understand aesthetics and vibes and what things are supposed to look like, but I've always been very intentional, even at a young age. So it's kind of crazy to see Junie now speak the same way, you know? But it's kind of like, seeing you, like, that was a big thing for me. I'm like, yo, what's up?

I know you in there, tell Ferrell and them. What we're doing? And then she got with Farrell. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. It's safe to say she's good at everything. I'm a manifest.

Anything she puts her hands on. We call you a triple threat. Right? Because there's nothing you can't do. And was that ever a complication for, you know, an A and all, somebody to see your vision? Because you do so many things. Was it hard to get the,

team that just get aligned with like, all right, I want to choreograph this. I want to, I want to sing. I want to shoot. I want to, like, people just like, yo, what the fuck? Like, everybody ain't built like that. Did you ever have that problem? I mean, it was, it was a lot. And it was very difficult.

And the way you breaking it down actually make me, like, want to, like, empathize with them for them a little bit because, no, real shit, because I never used to send this and be like, they don't know what to do with you. What the fuck does they don't know what to do with me? I'm not trying to hear all that. Like, if I'm giving you everything, you're avoiding all the things you would pay for and normal for the next artist.

So I used to think it was easier having an artist that... What the fuck? I used to walk into the label with the old school moveboard, like cut out pictures and, like, glue to a cardboard box. Like, I had the vision. So I was like, if everything is literally laid in your lap, how... How you saying you don't know what they do?

Yeah, how you're saying? you don't know what to do, but to your point, if it's like a robotic system and they're stagnant and their comfort, their comfort is, here's the standard. We do this with all our artists. So because we do this with all our artists, then no other way is the right way.

You know what I'm saying? I dealt with it for a long time until I took that step back because I do do everything. So it's kind of like, again, when I seen you and when I took a step back from music, I went and I manifested the same thing because I was definitely shoved in the corner and so I'm like, yo, if you retire,

If you retire, you boom, boom, I don't think that's smart. This is what I'm telling you is not. I'm like, I'm going to be a big director. Everybody's going to call me. I'm going to be a go-to director. I'm going to be a big actress. I'm going to protect other creatives. I'm going to pour into other creatives.

Everything I said I was going to do, I did that. Did that. Did that? And did it superbly. Thank you. You know what I mean? Let's not forget that. But that's all a part of that faith walk.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I go to the casino. with God. No, yeah. We're betting on the day. What we betting on the day? Both of y'all with God in the casino. Not literally, but I'm just saying,

it's like when people take bets elsewhere, people take gambles elsewhere. My gamble is like, Father God, what we doing? What's my purpose? You know what I'm saying? When I'm ready to give up, like, why you keep pushing me,

why you keep pushing me back in? What's my purpose? You know what I'm saying? Like, I want to do everything. I don't want to be in a box. Okay, if you don't want to be in a box, you don't want to be in a box. You know what I'm saying?

Keep praying. keep having conversations, you got to communicate. You got to over-communicate. Over-communicate. So, like, with over-communicating, then he's more clear on what I want and he can lead me in that direction because he ain't going to throw it in my lap.

You know what I'm saying? So I've always took my gamble, you know, within my faithful. You know, it's weird times. You over-communicate. You can overstand. I understand that. And it's weird times out there, right?

And the world, you know, hard to get a job, people on tough times. This thing has made it so everybody and their mother can say something about somebody. Absolutely. So this price of fame, right? It's on another level to where, I think the only thing that can keep you normal right now

is your belief in God. And so when I sit down, you know, I tell them, you know, my wife, she best friends with Mary Jay I sit with all of Jim Jones, Chrissy Harlem, I'm always surrounded by all of them. Right. And then the conversation always turned into God. I don't know how

it just, if you just start talking about everything, everybody would be like, yo, but thank God for God and I pay my tides. And because I feel like it's the only salvation is the only way through with all this noise that's going on around us. You know, this, this, you know, you got to be careful

what you wish for with this fame and fortune. You know, now I know what I love my life, but, you know, I think I would have rather been wealthy, more than wealthy and famous. Right, like when I see people who are... I rather wish I could just be wealthy but I had to...

Nobody can know you. I mean, but I meet wealthy people and they want to be lit. Like, they want to hang out with the... famous people. They think they want to be lit. No, that's, that's real. A lot of people think they know what they want until they get it.

You know what I'm saying? But I think for me, it's super important that even through my accolades that, like every single one of my speeches that, then they always go by. And my speech, all my speeches are always a prayer. I think it's important because I think a lot of times we turn to God when, when things ain't right. Yeah, you're not talking. You're not turning to them for nothing else.

Then when something goes wrong, yeah, through good about it and different, have them conversations, through good about it and different, you know, submit and pray. And understand that we're not perfect. It's still a work in progress. None of us haven't been perfect enough.

You know what I'm saying? So it's just like you got to pray through it all, you know, and give thanks. I think is important. Got to give thanks. It has been five years since the album. What pulled you back? What made you say is time?

I got pulled back on my on my own terms. You know what I'm saying? Like I left the first time because it wasn't on my terms. You know what I'm saying? And I knew that I was more. I was more than what was being, you know, put in the box for me. You know what I'm saying? They were trying to stuff everything in one box.

And that's just not, that was never me. I can't stay still. You know what I'm saying? Like me, I always instead of myself a glade plugging. I'm a plug in every single socket. outlet you see in this building. Why only make the bathroom smell good when you can make every inch of this motherfucker.

Yeah. Like, smell the fruits of your label. Like, I'm not about to be locked in one room. I'm not going to be locked in one box. I'm not going to be locked with one set of keys and one door. You know, shout out to your mother. Your mother's in the building. Yeah.

Harlem legend. And, you know, I just feel like you, me, Jim Jones, not to alienate nobody, but New York made some hustlers. Say Lala. Lala Fanesa MTV job to being an actress, to be in the this, to being that,

you know, what is it in you that make you that hustler dead? Because some people can't. Well, I'm a fake hauling guy. I'm from the Bronx. Right? But I got the hustle, too. I'll sell you some beer stuff. No, real sure.

I think that's just a New York thing. It's a New York thing. But also it's like, you know, my mom, hustler, her work ethic. You're all bringing. You're surrounded. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah.

And also what would help keep me grounded is actually use and use and gyms and, like, to see y'all be successful and still be on a block. You feel what I'm saying? Like, that's big for me. The first time I met Jada, I was mad young and I asked for older. And I didn't get wrote something in the script. And for the life for me, I was trying to figure out what he wrote. And at first, it was me and my hunch.

I was like, he was like, so. You know, I was like trying to figure out what he was saying. But it was the fact that he like took out the time to write the autograph and not probably wasn't my bike on my skateboard or something. Right. But it was just like, yo, this shit is dope. So now that I don't have the hustle, but I got the ground. I'm grounded because people that I look up to that's paving away for me is really

outside, you know, grounded but successful and still graceful and, you know, like just the balance of it. I just think that's a New York thing. I love that. New single, Better Roses. Describe this. All your emotions, bare. I like that.

What inspired? Better Roses, for me, well, you got to kind of hear the album. Once you hear the album, it's like a whole story. It's an Humbray album. So it's like the different emotions from heartbreak to healing. You know what I'm saying? Or from like dark clouds to, you know, sunny skies. So it's kind of like all the moments of vulnerability.

and grief and different things like that. But most importantly, resetting, re-aligning, and re-sensoring yourself without armor. And that's what Better Rose's is for me. Like I feel like even through everything I've been through, I still got so much love to give. You know what I'm saying?

Like I'm not a guarded person. I don't walk around with bricks, ready to build a wall. It's just not who I am. So you don't base a new relationship based on a past relationship. I mean, always move with caution, exactly, but to be guarded, that's how you block your blessings. You know what I'm saying?

Like, yeah, I don't, and I've never moved like that. You know what I'm saying? And that's what Better Rose is represent. I wanted to do something for, you know, just the lover people, love of girls, love of boys, because I think right now music is so toxic and so prideful and very, very egocentric, you know, and it's just not who I am.

And I wanted to create a lane to create healthy dialogue, healthy conversations with them music. You know, this whole time I'm looking at you, the petty Joe is just like, yo, what's up with the cute boyfriend right? This guy right here. That's my big brother shit. That's the petty Joe, man.

I'm sitting here the other day, I'm gonna tell you, and shout out to the brother, right? But the other day, I'm sitting on the couch trying to look at something in Netflix, and I see his fit. And I'm like, yo, you know who that? That's the honest, man, right there. You know what I said?

We watched the movie and shit. And, uh, what, what? You guys, Rebel Ridge. Hell yeah. That's that. But I watched it. I skipped it a bunch of times, but once, Tiana, you know, I'm keeping it a buck. Well, you got the clamps on me.

Y'all don't want me to go. You're doing it. You're doing it so well today. Okay, I'm going to calm down again. But you watched it. Hell yeah, because, I mean, he was a great actor. But what about the pretty boy? I mean, I'm not like, this guy, um, yeah, tell us about him, man.

Well, what's the question? You said, what about the pretty boy? boy. No. What's the question? You're so rough and you from Harlem, you from this, and this guy's like, you know, a model or something like. But anyway, you don't think she fit?

You don't think they fit? I just think she more. I figure out for more of a, like, I didn't try. I'm being cool with it. Nah, this is what I think it is. What I think it is is, is like, y'all watch me grow up. You know what I'm saying? Like, coming home has been funny as hell.

because every single interview I've been doing has been all like my big brothers. So it's been a lot of tough love and a lot of like, you know, y'all knowing me from being little teeth. You know what I'm saying? But I'm a woman, you know? And I am a mother.

And, you know, people grow and people change. And I feel like, you know, young when you young, yeah, you just, you, you high, you heavy, you, you just, your, the personality is big. But when that carry on into adulthood, majority of it is survival mode. You know what I'm saying? And when you find a place that is so gentle and so delicate and so kind,

it will, it could, so if anything, it's like boiling noodles, you know, you're going to go in there. Was it, was it like this the guy for me or was it like hard work? Was it like, what, did you see him? And you was like, yo, this, this, because, you know, you come off of such a, big publicized relationship, is it scared for a girl to take a chance with the next guy and say, yo, all right, this is the guy?

Because, I mean, you're beautiful. You're on top of the world. You got money. You got whatever. I'm sure everybody in their mother was coming at you. How did this guy get your attention? I mean, I am really big on feeling. And I always tell people, like, it's okay to feel.

Allow yourself to feel. Whatever you feel, follow that, you know? And it wasn't something, I don't go, looking for anything. I didn't go looking for anything and neither did he. You know, we were friends and it, you know, it went where it went. And I think the biggest thing is, it's the friendship. You know what I'm saying? And in the safe space, we created a safe space, you know, and that's why I think now in days when people putting titles and labels on everything, it's just kind of like create that safe space, create a friendship. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's sweet and it's

gentle and I deserve that. That's right. That was perfect answer. It was a perfect answer. How has your experience in film and television influenced your creativity on making music now? Or does it, does it even contrast or it's shit a little because you've been around, you've been doing, you doing shit.

Yeah, like I've always been a character. So, like, even when I was into music and doing videos, I was like, I'm ready to do more. I started my own production company. all female production company my partner Coco called her Auntie's production so we always like

even when we were doing my videos independently I was like yo I'm going places from bye man when I saw it out I knew it was that was just the tip of I was just ready I was always ahead of my time

I was just like I'm ready for something else like even when I started doing videos for everybody I'm like I'm ready to move into television and film I knew that's what I wanted to do so by the time I you know took a step back from music

I was like I'm ready to do movies. I want to do this. I want to do that. Things I was already doing. But, you know, you already know how it is when you prepare for an album. Everything's about the album

and everything else is put to the backburn. And I'm like, yo, if y'all can't balance this, then I'm too much. This don't even make sense to do this. So they came correct. And I got everything that I wanted. You're a good-ass actress, though. Thank you.

You went to acting school? No. You took no less? You just from Hall of it. Oh, nah. You're a different kind. You're a different human being, though. You're acting in the bodega.

We acted everywhere, bro. No, but she's really good on screen. Like the movie, the movie you had the hard time in and that, I think that show. That shows your skills. And now you're with Leonardo to camera. Doing shit. That's the shit, though. Like, you done elevated to a, you know, a lot of people are talented.

You know, sometimes I go to karaoke and some girl go up there and sing her ass off, but I'm like, damn, why this girl never became a star? You know, what's such a blessing from you is you said, I'm acting, and you went from, let's say that movie wasn't a lot of money, right? But it showed your skill. Now you're with Leonardo to Caprio. Yeah. That's crazy.

That's real shit. I mean, you got to work your area. You know what I'm saying? I think people want what they want so fast without doing the work. They want the glory. They don't want to do the stuff that is creating the story for the glory. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want to do the work.

I'm a student. I'm never above learning. You feel me? So it's just like I'm a student even when I'm teaching you know

so it's just like that's my mindset and understand and I think that's probably that New York shit too like yo bam bam bam do this

my legacy what's going on get you get where I want to be then start calling some shots and you know making some noise and boom boom

boom but you've got to do that first before you can do this you just got to know how to work your area man this is a great says

so blessing at 15 yeah the sweet tended age of 15, you choreographed Beyonce's ringing the alarm video. What was that? How did that? That's crazy.

How did that? You want to know what's crazy? Another stamp to New York. She wanted to learn the chicken noodle suit. Wow. And this is, you know, this is when I was rolling around with the big hair, the fitting cap, you already know. You know what I'm saying? So who better to get it right to you? So they called me because I was outside battle on everybody. Like, it was up for everybody. So it was like, they called me to come and do it, but you already know the

haul of me. Like, I'm about to throw a while of this shit in there. It was like, yo, she had one job. She just wanted to learn a chicken noodle soup. And I went in there and I was ready. Like, I wasn't like, I was like, hey, everybody, I'm ready to work. Let's go. Boom. And she just started dying lab.

She's like, oh, yeah, she's a star. Like, I was, I was ready. We were chicken noodle soup and there's some more shit. Like, I was throwing it mad of the shit. Like, maybe this, maybe this. And she called me back for another performance that she had. And, you know, let me, you know, help work on that. And, you know, it just was amazing.

But I'm also a sponge. I'm SpongeBob Squabob. wearing fucking pants. Like, I'm a soaking everything. I'm gonna take everything. So I was learning. So to be able to, you know, work with her. And it's like, at that age, I'm taking in everything.

But all of me is like, I understand aesthetics. And I was already 15 walking by dance groups like, now this need to be like this. Yeah, because if you look from here, it's not. Right. It ain't, I ain't rolling. You feel me like I was bossy, but it was always for the best. You know your hood, right?

You know, I don't know if you know. I started at 132nd in Park Avenue. Where? Yes, ma'am. Right by where the pimps in the holes used to be and the free cheese was out there underneath the train. My man Chubby Love, he passed away. My man Chubby Love, aka Gerard X,

he's trying to get the block named after him. So you know the term where the basketball courts in a handball court where you used to say crack is whack. He used to be out there. So one day he pulls up, he's in a Ford tourist, and he gets out the car. This guy's like 600 pounds. You have had to see him when you was a kid.

He was this big, and he got out. Louis Vuitton from the floor, Rob. And I said, oh, shit, what's that? Because this guy fought 600 pounds. What the fuck? He was like, yo, this dapper dan. He was like,

I was like, he took me to dappad when I was 14. I got my first dapper dan because Gerard X, I never seen no shit like that. He'd get out the car, the car go up.

He goes, and the motherfucker Louie Vitton all the way up. And that guy took me to dab, Gerard X. And so when I realized you're from that same hood right there,

very important growing up so hard though growing up in that area because you know you go to that school across you went to that school right there what school? The school right around the current what's that school right there?

What? Oh my God I got BS30 I was a menace in peace at PS30. Yeah but you know they got like metal detectors and shit TSA in that school

my man's wife was the principal She had me go talk to the kids I've never seen no shit like that They had the metal detectors with the cop in the front They still got pimps and shit And all that over there But growing up so tough, right? To be so polished

And to get to where you're going And where you're at now What does that feel like? When you come back to the city I've seen you with Bevzie Yeah I love Bev I love Bev I love Betty. Yo you know what time of this

with Bev and all that. Yo, who don't know Bev? Everybody ain't from the street. I've seen you with Bev. I was like, you know, and it is true. It is kind of like a homecoming. It is.

Yeah, yeah. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, next? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's, extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?

I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast

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You're doing your auntie and uncle shirt? Yeah, no, real shit. That's why I'm like, yo, it's a lot. up. It's like fucking y'all up to see me be a little baby. This is crazy. She's grown up. She's all grown up. Yeah, I know. I seen it in that Kanye video. I was like, what the fuck

going on? Like, that was the time, right? That was when she became a woman, right? When we seen that video, I was like, holy shit. I was at the awards when they played that shit. You know they played the first time on the awards, right? Yeah, that was. I was in there watching. I said,

what the fuck? I would say, yo, this shit crazy. And I seen you in the club one time too. You did? Doing some astronomical shit. It was in Miami and it was like a pole, like a light. And the way you, not a stripper pole, a pole. And the way you was dancing on this fucking pole,

I thought like, yo, she's an alien or something. I said, yo, she out of control with this shit right here. I was like, yo, what the fuck? And you do, like, TV doing the pull-ups. doing all that shit on that. Oh, yeah, when I'd be like, but that's that hall of the shit. Yeah, we used to be on the scaffolds doing that.

Doing the pull-up. I'm in battle mode, like, especially in the yams. Like, I don't like feeling like people playing with me a little bit. And I feel like people would come around, like, my table and try and, like, start dance. So I got to let you know because you can't do no pull-ups. You're from the yams. You can't do no pull-ups.

Yeah. We got scaffolds on the block. Everywhere we go. No, I seen that shit one time. I was like, yo, this girl crazy. Like, this shit out of control. Like I said, you're a triple threat. That's what I'm having every stage, like, in my life.

Like, Miami was like my young 20s, but like, as a mom and like just super grown, like, I'm so chill. I be chilling. As a mom. But I'm still ready to battle whenever, because I'd be feeling like people would be trying me. They think you lost. You know, you know what's crazy? I can't even go. I've been to a strip club where the girls

didn't even want to dance around me. They was intimidating. Yeah. But it was the sweetest because it wasn't like a battle thing. Like in the club is when people were trying to try it. But it got to a place where like it went from people in the battle to now. People don't even want to like dance. I mean, girls are like, oh my God, because you be dancing down.

I feel crazy? I'm like, girl, this is. Doing your job. Not even. You, bro, you're killing it. You feel me? Because y'all be doing shit that I'm, I'm like, bitch, yes, get it.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I don't want people to see me and be intimidated. You know what I'm saying? Like, y'all are beautiful, y'all are killing it. And they just be like, start pop-blocking this. I was like, babe, it's all right. Oh, they want to do a lot.

The pop-locking and the six-in-tails is insane. You know, you, would you at your videos where they dance or they come to be in your video and then they, nobody want to see that shit, right? They come up in there and start pop-lock. You be like, yo, my man, we're looking for the, like, a vibe. Like, you know, when they start doing the other dance,

you're like, yo, my man, like, you know, this ain't that type of party right here. Oh, shit. It's crazy, you know, the one time I seen some shit like that was we was at the record, we brought AI, and they didn't want to check him. He's the only player, NBA player, I ever seen at the record that they would not deem up.

They didn't want to de up AI. Like, he came out there and nobody wanted to DM up. They was playing them from far, like, almost like the strippers. Don't want to dance around you where. Hey, I came out there and started going like, they was like,

nobody wanted to be embarrassed on camera or nothing like that. He was just hopping to the rim. Nobody played defense on it. I've seen that shit before. Escape Room is an album in a short film. Walk us through the process. Walk us through. I mean, you told us we got to hear it there, really.

Yeah, you gotta hear, it's like going to the movies and having to pee. You know, you lead the pee, you might miss them. You feel me? Like, we won't be able to pause the Joe and Jay to show. I feel me? I got to shit. Sometimes you gotta pause, you know, you got to keep drinking that water, that shit run through the system, man.

You know what I'm saying? Water's good for you. For some reason, I ain't pee as much with Diet Pepsi, man. Now I'm drinking a whole bunch of water. I'm in the fucking bathroom all day. Filtering you. through. Waterworks.

Nah, but like real shit, it's like, it's an experience. And it's like, it's one thing leads into another versus like, okay, let me listen to a few songs and then I'm gonna go.

So connected, I like. Yeah, like when people listen, it's like an audio movie. Like, even without the movie attached, like listening to the album is like an audio movie. So it's one of them things where it's like,

I want people to receive it and really listen to it when they got some real time. Don't rush into my shit. If you joyride and a work list. Don't skim through my shit. You feel me. Don't skim through my shit.

We've got time to absorb this thing. You feel me? And like I said, it will create a lot of healthy dialogue. I think it's important, you know, to create those safe spaces and have an album. That's not a whole bunch of pointing to the fingers and, you know, different things like that. So the process is dope. And then once you see the movie with it, it's just like, oh, yeah, this is insane. I got a personal question, right?

The first album produced by the icon, yay, easy. What was that process like working with this man? Because I went in there to make a song. You want a song. I bought a whole other song. It's like 88 people. Listen. It's me.

You were 87. Which song is it? I had a song. It's called Pride and Joy I did with Kanye, but he went and call. Gets, bust the dish. He did the point is. You know what's crazy? Then they had me laid a hook for Pride and Joy.

Yeah? I just told you. Now that's 85. 85 more beat. 86 and a hat. Yo, the craziest shit is... I like that song. Yeah, but I'm supposed to be on that song.

Listen, I do the another round with Chris Brown. The shit is out of control popping. You know, this game, you need to be on a row. Sometimes, you know, when I was young, I would just say what you want. I was just throwing out hits. So much, I gave Jaru New York. just, I felt like it was hip mania. Like there's no way I could stop.

Everything I did was a hit number one. Then you get to that motherfucking gray area. I'm not telling you. I'm pulling them out. Just everything I put out, I know it's gone. It's gone. I'm putting our hits. Then you get to that little stumble.

You try and catch that shit again. That ain't easy. Right. Facts. I go in the studio with Chris Brown. We got another one. Right. So now I make

That was my shit too Yeah that's true But I was my shit That's my shit Right So We make another one after that I swear to God

It was a smash shit And Kanye hears him He says Yo let me work on that record He changed the whole fucking record He made it like We had another one

I had another one Coming right after the Chris Brown shit like another one like I had one and he switched the whole shit up so I know the one time I work with him I know what he did to me what was that process like working with him on the whole album even though the project came out incredible I mean I definitely feel like you know KTSC was like some of his best work

and he's amazing but like what he did were gonna love me and it was like that nigga was in a whole other duffer you know what I'm saying like what he did and that's why say like some of his best work, that shit is just like incredible, you know. And I think because it was that incredible that I think it became the both of ours versus a my thing, you know, like a me thing. I think he was, you know, and as a creative, even now looking at it, like being as well, I do everything for everybody.

Like this was a passion project for him. I think he was very, very, very, very proud of it. And I think that in that moment of being so proud, it's like he was living in that moment. And I don't think he thought about everything else that was also a part of that moment. You feel what I'm saying? Because if it was up to me, like dropping that shit

right after fade would have been insane. You feel what I'm saying? But I definitely think that this project was his baby. And he treated it as such. You know what I'm saying? And I think both of us, like, yeah, because you're going baby, yay on me. So I think both of us being like the super creatives that we are, I think that like in that, in that moment from one creative to another creative,

like we both is like, okay, I get that you bribe, this is a problem for me too. It was just a lot of that, you know what I'm saying? But I think it's an amazing project. And I think it's a life changer. And it's just like that was a time to be alive. You just had to be there. You know what I'm saying? And now, even today, like, I cut so much more grace.

Like, I give so much more grace because it's just like, people go through stuff. You know what I'm saying? And I think all he ever wanted to do was create, you know? And I know that feeling of just wanting to create. And I think those seven albums allowed him to just create without any of the extra shit. You know what I'm saying? So at that point, it was blocked everybody out. He was locked.

And he showed up for himself. And I think that's amazing. You know what I'm saying? I think we always talk about who's being selfish or whatever, but it's like, you know what? Show for yourself, because it all still helped us in a way.

You know what I'm saying? I would have preferred it to move differently and to roll out to be handled differently because I am the baby and I am the girl. So it's just like, you know, out of everybody here I've been waiting the longest. You know what I'm saying? Like everybody else here is consistent with their music.

I don't have consistent music. So I needed you to pour into like continue on the passion of it. He was passionate, like knowing you kill these fucking beats. Now be passionate about this rollout and understand that you know, we're in this

together. You know what I'm saying? I got to take a slight force. You're on some bullshit with the green watch with the green louis with the acting up right now. What type of smoke you can't, when you want it all the smoke today? Like what the fuck? I'm looking at the green

Watch with the Louise like you acting up out here, man. That's how you feel? Yeah, that's how he's feeling. I'm not to come according to our guests. Yeah, that's right. She throw that shit on track. You know what's crazy? That's actually a compliment.

I noticed that. When I go places, it's like, people really be throwing on their Sunday's best. I ain't know I'm coming to build. That's a good feet over me. You can't go great sweats. You can't go like you go to the laundry lab. I love that.

I really love that. I really love that. And it pissed me off and I really get to get my rocks. Can we elaborate on these. these stinkers right. Jordan, they love you. Because the type of quality they gave you.

They let her go out. They let her go accent. Name on the shit. They let it do the shit. What kind of fucking trees and shit? And, and yo, this shit is, this shoe, to me, when it came out, was the shoe of the year.

To me, okay? I'm sure there's other shoes that came out that was fly. But to me, I do the sneaking shit for real. Right. And I know the quality. I know how they let you get away with.

You know, Fran Join, don't let you put your name on the shit. All this. The box it came with. I think I got stiffed. I think they gave me a whack box. I think you had some special boxes. What special boxes? You had a special box.

You got a concrete box. They gave me a regular red box. I didn't get the premiere. They gave it to me regular. I'm just being honest. It's just like gave you a pair like sneakers in a red box. Yes. They fucked me.

lying. I'm not even sure what kind of box I got. No, they came in the fly box. I see people with fly boxes. I was calling the Tina cursing out everybody. I was like, yo, we're the fucking box. They got a special box. I got to get you a special box. You can put it in a store. My sneakers don't come in the special box. I got to

get you a box to put in the store. They shot my shit in a fucking what's the joint? The Benin's spot and all that. We shot my photo shot was on top of the projects. in a what? Cucci Frito

with me and Remy in there like this. Like that was our rollout. It's like, you got a special box, all type. I got the regular shit. They was like, nah,

you represent, you know, the average man. Nah, but you know what I did, though? It's like, again.

But nah, that's that, that's also the hustle and a finesto. You wouldn't let them just give you. I went into my commercial budget. I took, I was taking money from different places

and saying, yo, this is what I want to do. You know what I'm saying? I need to make sure that the people, you know, that I fuck with heavy received these sneakers in a special way. You know what I'm saying?

I ain't going on front. The sneaker was sold out before we even dropped the commercial. So, low-key, I could have made more than even more of boxes. I went to give you my sneaker and it was so much marijuana that got you high. In there that night, who was it? Little babies party or something. It was like three in the morning. Oh, yeah, for the after-up party.

And give them the sneaker to the T.S. sneaker. It was, I was high. Like, there's no way to fake second-hand smoke. Them motherfuckers were smoking so much shit that night. I'm of a certain. That show in our age was I was in there dying, but that was the tour I created. Three in the morning, bro.

I'm up in there. That shit was like dumb, dumb, dumb, like, they were smoking so much shit, man. I was dizzy. She was like, yo, I know you got my shit. I said, yeah, I couldn't wait for that dude to walk in that door to give him that sneaker so bad. I was like, yo, little baby, you go.

You got it. Take the pick. That shit was crazy. But, you know, we grind different with gad. Jay, the man hit up with one of them. I ain't saying anything. I just enjoying the conversation, Joe. The auntie's production.

So that's crazy. I ain't bringing up the fact that I got a song in the video with both of y'all. We're here to talk about you, though. I'm a part of that. That's a part of my journey. Why be you talking about the big stuff? That's something that you can talk about. You know what I mean?

That's why he's at YOT, how it feels. Yeah, how does it feel to have a song in the video with us, too? Yo, where's the camera? Like some of the best moments of my life. I need y'all to understand. Like, this little girl from Harlem having an opportunity to work with both of y'all is amazing. And I don't ever want you know, I'm saying?

Like, I feel like people see where my career is going and, you know, feel like the other shit don't matter. So again, I say it's all about where I started and people always believe in me. We got a few records together. You know what I'm saying? and, you know, I, you know, and feel with the most gratitude. No, we really do.

You know, and that's one thing I can always say. Like, I call Jay and it's like whatever, and it's quick, too. You know what I'm saying? It's like, that's the kind of shit that means the world to me. You know what I'm saying? He doesn't wait all the time. Oh, you make it wait? You ain't her.

Yeah, I'll be having my shit. I'm chopped. What am I? They go my acting. my chop meat? What am I? What am I chopped meat? Yeah, what was what I do for Jay to kiss verse out here? He'll start telling me, you know, people

give me watches for verses. Oh, you're giving you to hit? That's my artist. That's my own artist. They got to do that thing in the verse out of me. Yo, that shit crazy, man. Well, listen, I'm just happy to be a part. You know what I'm saying? And I feel blessed to have both of you all in my life

and have been able to work with y'all. And I just really want to give y'all y'all flowers. The podcast is fucking fire. I could not go into this surgery without coming home and seeing y'all like this shit really mean to work. Hold on, hold on. Let's backtrack here. We talked off the air.

It's a bit of sweet moment. But we walk with the faith of God. Our sister has to have vocal surgery. Tell them a little bit before, you know what I mean? You know. I think people elaborate a little. We say a prayer with her. before she's going surgery.

No, real talk. We got to say pre-ed. Yeah, that's it. We're going to let them know. I'm good. You know, I think, you know, I've, there's been a lot of years of singing and then, you know, and acting

and just a lot of trauma to the vocal core. You know what I'm saying? A lot of stress to the vocal core. And I think it's just time to fix it. And sometime we just try and keep going and keep going and keep going and keep going until like our body's like, all right now. It's time to sit down.

Your body will let you know. You know what I'm saying? And I think it's something that I want to handle now. So I am able to go on tour. And I may not be able to talk when this album drop, but to be able to go on tour and even have a bigger moment with that and with my supporters and give them a real show is amazing. But, you know, I love to be transparent with my people.

And, you know, I just wanted to share it because I will be, like I will have to really sit back and, you know, take that step back and handle that. And a good thing is it's treatable. And I caught it in just enough time because it could. could have got, it could get worse. You know what I'm saying? If I don't handle it, so I'll be doing that too much.

So it's got to be quiet for like two weeks straight. That's Chris. Oh, man. That's Chris. Got right out of you. Are you the animated one in the crew? I am the animated one. Because I'm the one that's the one that's the room.

You know what I'm saying? No, that's me. I'm like super animated. Hello? I'm super. Yeah, I'm like, I'm not, I'm not even a text. I got a FaceTime for every little thing. Like, I have to like, talk.

and I'm passionate. And that's what a New York shit kick. And I'm at how soft I get. We having like a little like conversation and that New York shit come out. Come up out of you. Yeah. Fuck is you talking about though.

Like it's crazy. All of that. All of that. I'm all of that. They're like, yo, I'm not, I'm like, I'm not mad neither. You ever see those like TikToks or memes they be doing about New York girls and they're like, yo, I'm dead ass.

They'd be like for like the Bay area or somewhere. They be like, do your, your New York girl. They were like, I'm dead ass. Where did, like, man, I've seen some shit on the gram. Look, I'm too old for this shit, boy, man. I remember those ghetto love stories with the girl's scream. She was like, Jonathan Ellis, so I'm telling you, boy.

I'm with you, like, they had like a hood girl arguing with her man. And she was like, Jonathan Ellis, I'm telling you. don't play with me. He's like, he's trying to, he's like, yo, I can't fucking eat. Like, what's good? Like, she just, I mean, you know, that's part of the growing up, right?

New York love story. Let me hear about your all-female production company, the auntie's production. Yeah, the auntie's production. You're all-female production company. Really, we have a company called Auntie 3652 because we do everything. So we creative, direct, produce, design, merch,

stage design, sound design, movement, coaching, choreography, directing, like literally everything is really a safe space for creatives so they don't feel boxed in. You want to do this, bet? You want to do this, bet. You know, and cost effective. You know, these labels and shit

ain't got no real budgets no more. You know what I mean? Tell me about it. You work with a lot of major brands. Now, how you choose, is it the bag? Of course, the bags have to be right. But I can imagine they just knocking down your door, Victoria's secret, all of them brands.

All money ain't good money. You feel me? I know, I know that. All money ain't good money. I'm going to just snatching bag just because there's a bag to snatch. Right there might be a bomb in that motherfucker. I ain't getting blown up. You feel me?

So it's just like, I'm very cautious with that. You see a bag. What's the weird? What's the weirdest bag? They try to throw you to you. It was like, no, I can't do it. I'll tell you mine. What?

What's your? No, no, do you first. Wait, boy. Nah, they try to get me to do the Fahas, the man Fahs. They had the mail ticket. They had the mill. I ain't going to front, Joe. I ain't going to front.

Oh, oh, so. Let him get the Fahide bread. You know. What you had to do? No. Just don't do it. You had to take the flick with just the thing. Yeah.

That was it. You would have offended. You would have been fined. I said this need. Oh, but you want me to take it? Oh, Uncle Glenn was like, yo, it's a mail ticket beat. But what did they want to say?

When we was the 1st, 70th and third, you wouldn't a dream of this thing. But what if they said, just wear it, you ain't got a posting, it just say, y'all got it on under the tee right now. No, these guys are.

That's what I'm saying. No, no, no, no. You know what they wanted me to do? They wanted the skim-z-a-th shit. They wanted me up in there with the solid-go. I got a dog, a dog with a solid-go. ball got a treat me with the eating.

Did you negotiate? Did you just flat out say no? No. Like certain shit, you can't? Just let me throw it under the, just let me throw it under and say I'm, I don't even want to say this story, right? I don't even want to say the story. I'm not going to, I'm making this about Tiana. I'm not making this about fat Joe.

I don't want to. They told us. Let's say to the. They said they want to hear this. They want to hear this one. They want to hear this one. Yeah, they want to hear this. They want to hear this.

listen, people eat what they kill. Uncle Dan caught a company that told them they had a million to throw Joe to do that. And the man was on my neck. Like, yo, it's a meal ticket. Yo, sup, this is just a picture.

They're going to throw it on. I said, yo, I fad Joe the gangster be. Like, you want, maybe now I might create my own brand. It would have felt. Now it feels a little better because, you know, we got the rewind to turn.

You could color your beard, your hair. You know, why I look 53, when you could look 43, 43, you 20. You know, times are changing. At the time, when they gave me that was way too early. I thought you could have told them, like, designed it like a bulletproof vest

and the little straps would have made it tight up. Maybe I should have asked you. You know, maybe that. What I need it. But, you know, sometimes, and not only sometimes, you know,

it was just a just a period of time where I turned down more money than I made. It was just, they was coming with just like, all type of crazy. You think you crazy

because I'm from the projects. So I'm turning shit down, left to red. I'm like, yo, are you bugging? Like, are you ever going to get this? That's real shit. That's real shit. All money, all money ain't good money.

That's a fact. So I'm very selective in who I work with. And most importantly, your freedom, your creative freedom. Because freedom ain't free. Yeah. A lot of these friends are still in the energy. Exactly.

Speak on it, God, freedom is. Freedom ain't free. Freedom ain't free. That's what I'm saying. It's going to come with a price, you know? So it's just like you want to make sure you go somewhere where you have that, that freedom to do that. You know what I'm saying?

Let's talk about the Fahas in the future. We might get that back again. Maybe like I get coming on a creative director thing You figure out this. It might be the name of the company. The Fahahas in the future. Yeah, Jane is fucking. Fahah free to Fah.

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Honestly, if I don't fall asleep, read in a script, I love it. No, for real, because sometimes I will read a script, and I will read it, and it will go through one day and out. Like, it won't leave the paper. I'm just like, but when I'm reading it and I can see what's happening while I'm reading it because I am a visual person, then I know it's for me. But it's also like, what's the bigger message? Like, what are we talking about here? You know?

So that's important to me. And then, of course, have an opportunity to work with the people that I've worked with. That's another big yes. That's like, oh, absolutely. I gave you a loud. I went to see sinners something. and I've seen the clip of your movie and I said, oh shit, T.

Caprio! They look in that me. Yeah, I know her, man. You shut up. I got to be honest. Only guy I ever been a group before was Leonardo de Caprio. Pause.

So Leo said, do this Faha commercial with me. Nah. But listen what you're saying to you. The man at the beach. Beyonce concert, he got a hoodie on this. Like, there's no way to notice Leonardo

or the caprio. You know, we're sitting in the arm, we're standing in the thing. And it's shit like this. He got a hat like like this. He's like, yo, what's up? Joe. I'm like, you what's up? I'm like, yo, what's up? You know, because, you know, I'm doing the Joe crack, too. I'm out there. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, yo, what's up, man?

He's like, yo, it's me, Leonardo. I said, what the fuck? Take the hoodie off. Now, I took a picture with him. The shit still came out fucked up. It's the only time I ever did that shit. And the picture came out too dark. But I made him take the fucking hoodie off.

I was like, yo, take the shit off, man. I got to get a pick this. He was like, boom, he was a nice guy, man. He loved hip-hop. He loved hip-hop. He loved hip-hop. But he's the only guy ever, like, lost my cool for paws. What is your favorite?

I'll give you a way out. What's your all-time favorite soul-food spot in Harlem? How do you got to talk about food? I ain't going to front, Amy Roos. Amy Roos was your favorite. Yeah, it was. Yeah. But I used to also love, well, Devin's was fried fishing, shit like that.

But, like, soul food. So-food. Yeah, Amy Roos. Amy Roos was the shit. The cornbread was fired. The fried chicken was fired. The macaroni was fired. And coming up, like, they would like just always show me mad love, like, from a kid to like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, coming into the industry, like, I have little events there, like, because I'm like a creature, I have it. So once I like something, it's like, that's all I want to eat. Because besides soul food, it was Chinese spot on 40th and Linux or it was Grinney's on 43rd. What does the Chinese? Is it just regular ghetto Chinese or? Yeah, right. Oh, they don't go on Linux. The 40th and Lennox.

40th and Linux. They still there. Oh, speaking of it. the food. You know the spot? Well, shout out to make my cake in Harlem. Yo, make my cake. You remember my cake? They don't want 25th. We used to walk bottom

on, on, on, on 7th and you could just smell it. Oh, my. People watched our episode from the Bronx. I'm from, I'm from Harlem. For real, but guys. I'm telling you. Mount Morris Park.

The people from the Bronx, the restaurant you said that got the banging sauce is groovy, looving. who's in-laws, they're gonna, next show, they're gonna lay show and bring you the, I need the spot, what's, remember? Because you told us about it on the show. What else are the way in the Bronx,

I got the chicken, the sauce. One of these episodes you was talking about a spot in the Bronx with the banging sauce. Well, whoever he was talking about, those sisters, husband owned you. They coming. He's about to bring you on. You know what I'm looking for?

You want to Farn-Zip. Put me on to turkey chops back in the day. Stop and shop. They ain't got the turkey chops because I went to every stopping shop looking for the turkey chops. They ain't got it. But I think what the bigger, what the bigger question is what exactly are we talking about? Fake pork chops. He must be hungry because he can't talk about food.

Do we need to order? Like, what we, I'm just saying like what's the indoor bill? Like, are we hungry? Because I'm hungry too. like it's coming now or the next episode? Why would y'all just order no chicken? He ordering some shit for next week. That's what I'm saying.

Same with you, Jay. I'm thinking, is the shit coming today? I'm holding. No, no, what I'm saying is we was talking Harlem culinary. I'm trying to conduct the interview. He over here asks you about your five favorite soul food. No, I didn't.

You said turkey chops. That came out of the action. I came out of the soul food because the Chinese spot of 140. But you told me, but I had incident. Food is really. I'm like the turkey chops. I'm like, yo, like they bring it something. I'm with you.

I thought we was on. He said, no, no, what? Shout out the voice. I'm looking for turkey chops. No, no. What's on this guy's mind over it? Vaughn Zip used to take me to a spot downtown, like big time, a capriely's or some wild shit. And they used to have the turkey chops that you take home and you fry it like pork chops.

And it tastes like pork chops. Ah. They stopped making it. So the other day I seen the Soul Food join. I was like, yo, it said turkey chops. I was like, yo, where the fuck the turkey chops? What spot was that? And then everybody started telling me turkey chops and they all said stop a shop,

but I went to like 10 stopping shops. By the way, we got rewined the 10 up in that motherfucker too. So if you want to go 53 to 43. So moral of the story is, there's no turkey shots. They are. He just don't know where they yet. I love that we found something, though, because I was confused as to. No, he's just saying...

I'm just happy we found it. I'm crazy. Don't mind me, guys. No, I love it. I'm just happy we found it because I wasn't sure where we was going to be able to defend you. I used to eat turkey jobs for years.

They discontinued it. And then the other day, I talked about it in one of the shows and everybody told me, nah, they got the turkey jobs. So I went to 10 supermarkets in the hood and I couldn't find it. How dear they?

How dear that? That's a big deal for me. That's a big fucking deal. But you know, ain't no swine. There ain't no pork of my fork, no ham in my pan. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what you're saying. I don't know.

Listen, your B&T performance of long time was categorized as futuristic. For me, you might be like the second to Michael Jackson, how much you rehearsed and how much you prepare for live performances. That's me watching you. I see you all over. I see when you're getting ready to do a tour, you're getting ready to do something. It's like you're doing unlimited amount of dancing,

rehearsing, and what is it with that? Do you take that even more serious than anything? I take that so serious. Because honestly, if I could, like, record the album and then press a button that takes me straight on tour and I don't have to do press, radio, everything that comes with all that shit. I would go straight on.

I would go on tour for the rest of my album. I love to perform live and I love to rehearse. I'll rehearse my dances. Like I can dance like 12, 13 hours straight. Day tide, you're still going. You feel what I mean? Like I would just, I can just do that all day. And that's also why I'm so toned.

Like I'd be so, I'd be so ripped on tour. You know, like you're boring six-packed up. Yeah, she looked like. You just born six-pack. No, I was. I used to call myself a Ninja Turtle. You know how they had the little puds with a six-pack on top of it, shit, I was a Ninja Turtle.

See, I never had a muscle in my life. We talk about them. I was in the gym two times a day, trainers and everything, and couldn't make a muscle. I don't not build, I'm not you out. You needed the fire.

I needed the fire. Yeah, you could have got paid to get that muscle too. You could have got paid the millie to get the muscle. Who she get it from, mom, from you or from dad? Where does she get the genetics from? I'm not asking you. New York. New York.

Now, but my mom, my mom has been heavy into fitness, like at a young age, you know? My parents are both thick. Look better than ever. But let me tell you something. Like, in order, like, you know, I'm a big basketball fan.

And in order for someone to become the MVP or to win a championship, it's a certain level. Like, that's why you say, see all these guys breaking their Achilles and all that. It's another, like, you got to be faster than everybody. You got to go another level. You got to train another level, like to get to that, to the chip.

And then when I watch your performances, for no reason, you'll be like, you're jumping in the air, like, it ain't enough. Like, for you, it's like, yo, it's like, you got so much built in the energy that I believe you trained your dances because I see you outwork them. And that's very rare, you know, because the dances, they're supposed to, you know, help out the artists. You know, certain artists need a lot of help, you know. Yeah, but I also think that artists don't, other artists are, they don't choreograph for themselves. So it's like, I'm the dancer and the choreographer.

You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, oh, this is what we doing. It's how it's going down. And me, I just, I love to dance. I love to rehearse. I just thought I want, Jay, that this is, you ever battle Chris Brown? behind the scenes at a show or something. It's never been a battle, but behind the scenes, it goes down.

Like, it's just always dancing. But the thing about we be so in sync. It's never a battle. It's always like, if he moved this way, then we both moving that way, and then we catch it, and then we just, like, in our own little world. There's a lot of videos of us, like, literally doing that. Like, we dance all day. Like, people be tired of us.

It's like, all right, fucking dancing motherfuckers. Like, sit down. You know what I'm saying? But, like, we literally do that shit, like, all day. And we hype each other up. You know what I'm saying? Like it's not, there's no like, we're not competitive toward one another.

And I think us coming up together, you know. That's, we would like to see the videos, the footage someday of you and Chris going because. Thank you, brother. No alien talk. No crazy shit. They think I'm a basket. No, I definitely think the world deserve,

deserve that moment. That'd be crazy. They deserve that moment from a, they deserve a, a stern dance number. That'd be insane. That would be nuts. With the escape room coming out in August, what's next feet?

Of course the surgery, how long is the healing? Well, I mean, the first two weeks, I just got to shut up. I got to be quiet. And then the third week, I'll go back into, like, training to make sure doing therapy on my vocal cords.

Tour after that. Tour, probably in January, because then I got to get ready for one bad, but I have another September 26 coming. Then I got Alls Fair coming, and then I got Rip coming with Matt Damon and Big Afflet. And, you know, it's just a lot back to back, the back, the back. And then I'm thinking tour maybe like January, February.

And then, oh, I'm about to direct my first feature film called Get Lights on the Get Light Culture and all of them. My first, like, feature film directed. Yeah. in that too. Yeah. That's fucking awesome. That's awesome.

That's crazy. What advice would you give to somebody trying to do what you did or something remotely close to they want to sing, dance, produce? You know, if you just bumped into a young tea right now in a hall? I mean, I bump into young ins that come to me all the time asking me that question

and not tell them to be true. to yourself and I know that shit sound you know gimmicky or whatever they call it like. Generic. Yeah, generic because people say, I'm like, man, we're for real. Don't tell me, never give up. We're for real. I'm trying to get signed.

You feel what I'm just like, I like to be real with people in transparent. To Joe's point, like, I'm a manifester. You feel what I'm saying? So you've got to manifest what you want and you got to say what you want and you got to pray on what you want. and you got to believe that that's what it's going to be. It's the faith walk.

I tell everybody, walk that walk. Walk that walk. It ain't going to be a straight one. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's going to be rocks and shit that's going to be thrown. And, you know, you might run into a deer. You might, it's just, there's a lot of shit going on, but you got to keep that faith walk going.

And that's what I tell him, like, and it's just, it's important. It's not never give up. It's not boom, boom, boom. Because we have our time to be like, fuck all this shit. I don't want to do it. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not about to tell you to do that.

you know what I'm saying, but I do want to tell you to believe and have those conversations with God. That's the only real, like, bets you need to make. You know what I'm saying? And understanding that, she's not going to be thrown in your lap. And the number one thing is don't take none of this shit personal. My mom told me that a long time ago

because I come in at 15, I took everything personal. That's why I was rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, because I'm in survival mode. I'm taking it personal. You know what I'm saying? like I got mouths to feed people to take care of. I'm taking this shit serious. You know what I'm saying?

And they're shaking. So how I'm going to shake this table? You know what I'm saying? But my mom to tell me, don't take this shit personal. It's a wicked business. And when you stop taking shit personal, you'll feel a lot better. So now being back on my terms, I don't take nothing personal. And I feel a lot better.

And I'm glowing and I'm continuing to grow and I'm doing my thing because I don't take shit personal. That being said, get ready for the escape room project. Let's get into one of these bangers, courtesy of Tiana Taylor, only on the Joe and Jay to show. You know what I mean? Natina, make sure we got permission for this because last time I tried this shit, they said, boom. Oh, yeah, they turned the screen black. That was a great song. Hold on.

Bullshit is that. You sure you spoke to the White House? Yeah. You. Me? What about me? We did this before. Then I watched the episode the screen with a black.

Y'all just make sure y'all find his turkey chops. You heard it? Say that again. Y'all just make sure y'all find his turkey chops. Dave, he ain't finding it. Look at you doing them turkey chops. He ain't finding. Find them turkey chops.

Not stew linens. He ain't find it. You could have got it when you did the, when you sold the soferino. You know what's crazy? Type it in Uber. You type it in Uber East, you might be able to find the turkey shops, and they're going to find a little bit. You know what? That's my mission today.

I'm going to find me some turkey jobs. Let me see they got turkeys right quick. Let me see they got to Sto Leonardis everywhere. They got something in Louis. They ain't got no, they ain't got no turkey shops. Let's get it to this exclusive. Feed the whole damn day. James, put it loud.

Your questions for you. Shit is getting real confusing. Do you want this or do you don't? Do you want this? Do you don't? Hmm. I see a difference in the way you move it proving you don't give a fuck by losing

I'll stay home so now I'm gone Lucky damn knew it I think you're not signed up The Escape room That was the hard part Holy shit was that a beautiful song Make sure you're down low

stream, purchase Wherever you get your Forms of Music Escape Room Project Shout out Lucky Day Shout out lucky day Fellow six packer This guy going to perform six-packed out

This guy right here Right lucky day I gotta tell you The vibe that gave me But first of all you picked up right Where you left off even better growth Yeah that shit was neat That was a beautiful

You know that reminds me When she called a car And she was like You might not have noticed me But I'm the waitress You know I throw water in your, in your, in your, in your, in your, in your, my boss tell me not to throw the milk. He told me not to throw the milk, but I throw the milk in your chocolate and the, what was the name of that spot?

Legendary on a hundred thousand. Hand pan. Hand pan was legend. Yo, you got us. You ain't know. No pork of my fault. No ham in my pan. That's a Harlem restaurant.

I do the name of you. All right, but pan pan. But this is why y'all got a head. That's that vibe, though. Well, we're going to pray for you. with the surgery. Thank you. We thank you for honoring us with your presence.

You after us, but we feel like you just bridge our era with the new era. Like you're great... You're from that cloth. You know what I mean? That's hard to be from that cloth. You know what I mean?

So we appreciate you and thanks for sitting on the couch with us. I'm Joe Crack. Jay and Kiss. This ain't that. That ain't this. And it's cracking kiss. Baby. Make some noise for Tiana.

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