The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - The Alchemist & Hit-Boy on 'Goldfish' collab & WILD Drake, Eminem & Jay-Z stories

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by two legends in the hip hop game, as super-producers Hit-Boy and The Alchemist sit down to discuss their upcoming collaboration album ‘Goldfish.’ Joe and Jada ask Hit-Boy about his most iconic records, including “Sicko Mode” by Travis Scott featuring Drake, “A Milli” by Lil Wayne, and “N****s In Paris” by Jay-Z and Ye (f.k.a. Kanye West). The Alchemist talks about his work with Havoc and Prodigy as Mobb Deep’s unofficial third member, Joe giving him his big break by hopping on the remix to Cypress Hill’s “Tequila Sunrise,” Eminem’s superhuman work ethic, and an UNHINGED story from being in the studio with Joe and Big Pun. Joe also tells a story about an unfortunate run-in he had with Bruno Mars and Anderson .Paak at an awards show. 7:00 - Hit-Boy's most legendary records ("Sicko Mode," "A Milli" & more) 13:30 - Jay-Z helping Hit-Boy get out of his deal 16:00 - Legend of Fat Joe's missing Lexus 19:30 - Alchemist shouts out Joe for his first big break 27:30 - Scott Storch & the fabled Biggie-Fat Joe project 34:30 - Alchemist's iconic collaborations with Mobb Deep 39:00 - Alchemist & Jadakiss' mixup with Ras Kass 42:15 - Mobb Deep's "Win or Lose" was for Jada & Styles P 45:00 - Toasting to new album 'Goldfish' 55:30 - People finally appreciating Alchemist 59:00 - Eminem, Paul Wall & "The White Mafia" 1:05:00 - Fat Joe's run-in with Bruno Mars 1:11:15 - "Business Merger" listening session [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcast. You realize you were the first big artist to ever rap on a beat of mine? Oh, man. I'm a cap for you today. I'm capping for you today. Hold on. Yo, I bet you don't even remember.

What's up, y'all? It's the biggest in the motherfucking game. Joe cracked the dawn. You know who it is your boy, Jada. This is the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. And today is another one of those.

Ladies and gentlemen. Super, you got to go a little more less than. Ladies and gentlemen. Excuse his cut me off. Okay. But ladies and gentlemen, viewers, people with airs, if you love music, if you love authentic hip-hop,

if you love the culture, please make some noise, for our guest today, hit boy and my brother Alka, man. You got motherfucking Beethoven and Mozart of the fucking

of the 25th century. These motherfuckers is hieroglyphics, man. These ain't even icons. These are different type of solicitors up on the program over here. These guys were giving you, they've been, if you don't know who they are, they've been making your head

not for the last 20, 30 years? How long? I mean, shit for me. Yeah, I'm shutting. I started a- Alchemist. You need that rewind.

We need a white boy on the cover. I got to talk to you. Boxer rewind, get you that bad. Why fights the time or you could rewind the time? Sometimes that shit like Lego. It looks like Lego.

No, no, not this time. Don't fuck with me. This is the real shit. You'll be switching up shades. No, my, yeah, yeah. My shit is consistent. Let me hear it. No, no.

No, he's what he's saying. He don't like the fake. My shit don't look fake. My shit is soothing to the skin. It's my product. I'm trying to make you money while you sleep. Yeah, here, boy, one thing you're going to do is you're going to throw that shit on, man. It was 90 degrees yesterday.

I've seen you with a fur coat on in the middle of it. You don't give a fuck. You're in the entertainment zone, right? Like, I've seen all the back of the days. Diana Ross were fur coats in the summer. like, who gets, we got adapt to any, you don't adapt to any weather.

That's why I'm trying. We had to listen in that Stone Island, so they gave with some, like, custom pieces and, yeah, you had to throw that shit on. Shout out to Stone Island and wave for you. You know what I mean? I've been connected, but it ain't, it ain't Plymouth Rock,

didn't anybody give us shit. I don't get shit. I agree. Y'all got a crazy motherfucker's setup here, though. No, no, we appreciate it. You just in the game, but thank you. What's going on.

Okay. He makes that my business partner I always wanted to be humble about this shit. They say, I'm not delusional. Like, I know we're the biggest in the game. We're moving the whole fucking culture. We're the guys. You know, we play a record.

Niggas change their singles. Be careful. Y'all got new music here? Because I guarantee you you're going to change the single. Whatever you play that. Whatever you play here becomes the fucking single. Tiana Taylor came here and said, I'll play the 13th song on the album.

Became her single. Too many people. I see, Ava came here and played that mom. Have it came here. That was dead two. See what he's doing. Shout out to my brother. Your big damn came up here in the fucking country with a sombrero.

Five million views. It changed the single. We are controlling the culture right now. We're not delusional. You're not lying, man. You know, but listen, we love you, man. You ain't bring Erica Badu to this one, though. I need that Erica Badu over here, huh?

She's going to pull up, man. It only more. When it's time. We ain't going to talk. We ain't going to talk. We're going to get into y'all new project, y'all collaborating in a minute, but it only makes sense for y'all to do something together because I've been controlling the fucking,

I've been controlling shit for the past. How does that just feel? I know what? I mean, shit, the last, what, about five years, every end of the year list is they'd be like, Alchem's hit boy, like, top drool and producer lists and shit. So for us to tap in, it just, you know, it made sense. You know what I mean?

I got a hell of respect. for both and obviously legendary and I'm getting to learn from you know I mean I'm a student in this shit I'm always trying to learn trying to pick up new techniques new ways to think about shit and I was just he got that game so I'm gonna drop some titles and you just give us what was it like making it what was the

what was the whole journey when I named these joints first thing first niggas in Paris oh man let's straight forward let's not even play with it Now, I mean, shit. You found for making. Straight to this. Red flags.

I threw a flag. I threw a flag. I threw a flag. Yeah. No, I mean, bro. That was the, that shit still ringing off. I just seen Hope do it at the last Beyonce song in Vegas.

Raiders shit. There's a hundred thousand motherfuckers in that shit with crap. But I mean, I was just a kid, excited, making beats, having fun with this shit. You know what I mean? I had a full out of New York. I did some records with Hobo and Yee on that. I'd never seen a lot of day. I was hyping on them records and said,

I'm going back to the city telling the homies, man, I got hole rapping on my shit, yay. And then none of them joints became anything. Like, the beat for niggas and Paris was just a beat I had emailed, yay, like, once prior. Wasn't thinking about the shit at all. He hit me like, bro, we just did this song out in Paris and when this shit drop your light about the change.

Nigger was right. That's what you said. Yeah, that's what you said. Yeah, let's talk about this one. Sickle-mo. Oh, yeah. I mean, shit. I did the first part of it

I'm a flagged out My nigga I mean I did the first part of it You know what I mean Like the Drake part Me and my boy Rojay produced that together And that actually is crazy Because I did some shit on Travis

album that came out prior to Astro World Birds in the Trap I did a song called way back The day that shit came out Birds in the Trap Travis hit me like I got a big session And now I got a session with Drake

I need you to send me some bombs And I sent the Cigomo beat That ninae face-time me the next day going crazy playing the joint. But he was like, we're going to have to hold this shit to the next album, so I had to hold that beat

for two years. Yeah. But you knew that was a force field. You knew that. Whenever that shit came. No, that was, come on. You didn't talk about you just asked about ladies in Paris to Sycamore.

Them joints, that's unconscious shit. You know what I'm saying? When we heard Sycamot, just as fans, that shit was unfucking real. And that was something that my daughter, kept like, I think COVID, right?

That shit just was like, that was playing in COVID. Yeah, it was right. Legend of that. You know, I had a kakuzzi in COVID. So I was scared to go to the pool. So I had like a little round kakuzzi. What's a kikaze? It ain't quite a jacuzzi.

It's a kakuzzi. Maybe like a $300 plastic fucking filled up with water sitting in the sun in Miami. Like, I wasn't fucking with nobody. I had the cocoosy. The cocozy. But that's sick of all? One, dog.

Heavy not. That's tough. Let me ask you about some more. Hold on. Click. Yeah, click. You know, nobody messing with my click. Class.

Who's there for that? Yeah, I'm on your big sign, too. You know what I mean? We didn't have all type of platinum records and shit. But, yeah, first time I heard that, I was actually, I was in a habitist working on Beyonce album. And Yee brought the final version through right before he put the album out, a cold, was it cold, some of some shit like that. And, yeah.

I did a few records on there, but click, that's just, you know, they all snapped on that shit. Speaking of me, Anse, let's go right in the feeling myself. What was high pause? What was that love? Man, again, bro, just having joints. Like, you know, she invited me to the stool. She was at record playing Beyonce and I went to play some beats for her. She didn't that joint.

The next thing I know, Nikki was on it. She used that shit for the album, like the video hall, like, yeah. I got more. Drop the world. man. A little Wayne feature Eminem. Oh, yeah, that was like, that was the first time people really in the hip-hop world

start seeing, you know, like my name and shit on a bigger platform, you know what I mean? That was probably the first, like, platinum song I had produced, me and my boy chasing cash, out chasing cash and shit. Yeah, just young niggas.

That was like 2010, bro. That was the first one. I was before streaming and all that. So I'm on the iTunes charts, watching that shit just go up and they went to number one. I'm like, damn, that shit was crazy for me. It's fine.

Yeah. Super fine. backseat freestyle, man, Kendrick Lamar. Man, legend. Yeah, shit, I went to Vegas fucking with TDE and Kendrick before we put out Good Kid, Mad City. We was just locked in on joints. Again, that was another one where it was like,

he had put his vocals on some other beats, and I was like, hype off that shit. He like, bro, I fuck with them joints, but let me hear a few more beats type of shit. Him and Day, free pulled up to my crib. That was one of the first beats I played. He was like, this is it. Tug it.

Road to it. And he was on tour, he texted me like, bro, we got one. He was like, this shit on the album, for sure. Yeah. Good shit. Goldie, Aesap Rocky. Man, I fucked up because I got invited to that video with him and Yams and Paris and I didn't make it. I don't know why I didn't go, but that would have been a crazy look, you know what I mean?

R.P. Yams and shit, you know, and he'd go. That was like, that was really, bro, like first single on a major label type shit, you know what I mean? So that was pivotal moment. Like, that shit, you know, help both, you know, going to the. that stratosphere. Fire. Now, let's talk about the King's disease trillage.

How you, what happened? Asco just called you and said, that really, my boy, double right here was with, bro. Yeah, they was doing the other business. I seen double post, Nause on his story.

I just hit that nigga like, bro, you gotta have this nigga pull up. Literally, he's like, man, he's gonna slide tomorrow. I'm thinking, nigg's bullshit, and he slid and was opening my ideas. I had some hook ideas with, like, Don Tyler,

that ended up going on the album. I had some hand some passes. shit. I just was planning my ideas and he was laying verses and really fucking with me. So I'm like, he's like, after the session, he's like, I'm going to keep pulling up. I'm thinking like, come on, this is nah, this thing ain't going to keep pulling up. And then he pulled up for three

years straight. We did six hours. Let me ask you the process. Does he take long the verse? Because he looked like one of them guys take longness. No, I mean, if he looks at it. It's a, for sure. It's like, if it's the right beat. I mean, bro, I don't know how you. We put out 80 songs or three years.

He was, he was being through. I'm lying to this. He was being through shit. Also, he was getting through shit. We got 80 songs in the other three years. Hell yeah. I like that car 85. That car 85 was my shit on that album. I really loved that first album.

You know what I'm saying? That car 85 and 88, they called me baby face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was hard. That was hard. Charlie Wilson singing on that more. That was hard. Yeah.

Now, the valleys and peaks in the industry, you just got out of a public. And deal. Yeah. Hope you get out of that? Yeah. Shout out to

Hey, Joe. He always coming through. Shout out to him and Desiree. I mean. Yeah.

I mean. Did he was no power play, man, and got me an end date because I didn't even have no end date

to my shit. Oh, I got robbed too. He was one of them and a family heard on that. I got robbed for like 14 years.

Yeah. My shit is different. He came to me like, like, yo, we're the only Latinos in the industry and this and that

and they robbed me and punt. 14 years, man. And you're slapping? Couldn't that name. We never saw him. We got missing it to that?

Nah, he's just, he's in a different brand. He's, uh, kid. It's Jelly Bean, Benitez, and he's hanging out with Madonna and him. He ain't coming around our shit. So if he would have came around, allegedly, you know what's up, right? But he's no way to be, you know what I'm saying? He was no way to be found. So we in different circles, but eventually, like,

you know what happened to me? Pete this, I did a soundtrack, right? And I asked them for $150,000. Yeah. Right, I'm like, y'all, and I did the song. And I said, y'all need $150,000. At that time, I was really going for that bread. Yeah.

At that time. And they said, hold up. We ain't to prove it all the way. Yeah. I said, why? You said, well, your publisher's asking for $300. I said, what? I didn't see this man in 14 years.

That's when it was, oh, no, we got, we got, We got to find a... This is... Find the medium. You got to find this way out of here because I didn't know this guy was raping me on that level. He wasn't giving them the permission

for me to be on the soundtrack and he wanted double the money and I never seen him. A man never gave me a $50,000 check man, just before laying back. So I got... The next song I was laying back. Yeah, I think I...

Yeah, that's how that's... And so with you, how did they get you for the publisher? That was like raping you records, huh? I mean, shit, I was one year out of high school. Why you got to use my label, I did this? Man, yesterday I came up with some ill labels for gas. Yeah, I mean, I heard shit, I started to deal with one year out of high school at 19. I mean, 50 racks sounded like everything at that time.

Same thing with me. I didn't hear this, man. Same thing with me, I bought the Lexus for 49,000. 950. They stole that shit the first day. I went to Form Master Flex birthday party niggas robbed the whole garage I'm all over Brooklyn MOP.

Everybody was with me looking for the Lexus. Let me tell you something. You talk about a all the way fucked up here. The 50 they gave me. They stole the car the first fucking day. MOP was looking for the Lexus too. With me, the whole Brooklyn. He got...

Famous family was looking for the Lexus. Yeah, one of the guys... One of the guys got caught. So they robbed the whole garage. It was a palladium for Massa Flex Berks. He robbed all the cars. The whole garage. He took a Mexican man.

He robbed him. Where was it? Palladium. So around the ball. They robbed the whole garage. And he floged off. One of them got caught. He happened to be from Brooklyn.

So we studied. We was all over Brooklyn. All over Brooklyn looking for this fucking Lexus in every garage. Every MOP was with us. Fray, Billy. everybody running through. What's the little guy down with them, too? What's my little man?

Damn, man. Fox, all of them. But anyway, we're a thousand deep draft. The whole Brooklyn new fat Joe's looking for this Lexus. We all over. Come on, man. Let me tell you something. It's crazy.

Find it. Let me tell you the story. Three months later, I'm like one day to getting my $50,000 check back, they find the fucking Lexus. I wanted my $50,000 back. I might have had a G. in the bank account B. I was like,

y'all, I'm gonna get 50 back. Yo, chill, I made a mistake with the Lexus one day. Your Lexus has been found. I'm like, fuck! I ain't want that shit, found. I wasn't 50,000. They found, no.

This guy was driving it like it was his car. When they found it, he had car seat in the back, kids' books. This guy was driving his kids to school. He owned the Lexus for three months. You can't tell no one. To this day, he probably in Brooklyn like, You know, remember you had the LS4.

Yeah, you know, that's how that shit go. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy. We got it back, but I know about that shit, man. How's it working with your pops? Man, you did a lot of time. I just came from the prisons talking to the dudes up north. Shout out the Marcy and Mid-State.

He got out. He was working with him. Yeah, he backed down right now, man. Free him, you know what I mean? It was a 30-year, you know what I mean? Saga dealing with the shit, my whole life. You know, you know, that shit is. It's a fucking roller coaster.

He really is who you say he is. You know what I mean? Like, he really bought that shit. So it's kind of hard to tame that. But, you know, I'll be doing the best I can. Just trying to keep that nigga busy, keep him working. He was on stage with Kendra got the pop out. And then your songs with Snoop, the whole album with games.

What's the problem if he keeps going back? Like, what is it? Is it like substance abuse? Is it like... Yeah, he's just a real nigga, man. He's just a real nigga. I want to be a real nigga at home. Yeah, no, for sure.

You know, same, same. He's on God. I couldn't imagine, bro. You know, being around niggas all day, bros. Hell not. Fuck that. But, you know, he just, he just a wild dude, man. He don't really follow rules.

Impulsive. They don't follow rules, man. Yeah, Alchemist. You ready for the Alchemists? Or you got, like, I mean, you know, Alchemists, let me tell you something. We prepare for him. You, we know you like the back of the head, bro.

We like, my favorite beat I ever rap to in my whole career of 30-some years is definition of a dime. Wow. It's my favorite. I say it all the time. I don't know if you see it on interviews or whatever the case. That's crazy.

It's because it's such a real song, real, the beat is just, when I hear that, that, you know, if you ever want to know the real fat Joe, you listen to that song. That's Fat Joe telling you that's the real fat Joe. Like, you know, like, I made a song for this or that. That's like me. Definition.

Describing the autobiography of my life, definition of a dawn. That's you, I don't know. I'm like, yo, my God, man. I remember that. You don't even know how much, I bet there's some shit, you forgot. You realize,

you realize you were the first big artist to ever rap on a Bidemar? Oh, man. I'm a cap for you today. I'm for the cap. I'm capping for you today. Hold on. You know, I bet you don't even remember.

You remember the Cybers Hill remix? Tequila Sunrise. I was just underneath mugs at the time. I was still living in L.A. You weren't even flying yet. You had the tour bus. I don't forget none of this shit because this was a big, you know, Mugs was giving me a shot.

Like, yo, you're going to do the remix and we're going to get Fadjo on it. And that was a big break for me. Like, yo, it was Tequila Sunrise remix, man. Not only you say that I get goosebumps right now because Cypress Hills is only, you know, us being Latino, me and punt, they were pretty much the only guys we looked up to. You know what I'm saying? They set the bar to where it was like, yo, we want to be like Cypress Hills.

You know what I'm doing? Like, they was like on another level of, you know what I mean? They were the only guys we could look up to. And what's crazy is we still look up to them. You know what I'm saying? So those guys are, but damn, I ain't know that. You know, I've been around a long time. You know, you guys are producers.

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rapism. They had that boy doing all them fucking hits and they wouldn't give him credit. Yeah. And so Rob Reef Tulo, by the way, the only A&R that I ever got out of ears from one of the greatest

changed my life, made me millionaire. This guy, Rob Reef Tullo because the other day I shitted on A&Rs. What I don't like... He's a different breed. He's from that era. Rob was the best maybe ever.

And even back in those days, he made sure I got my... my bread, even if it was a little bit, because they didn't have to do that shit. He was one of those guys. Like, I don't know, hats off to, you know, to Reef, man. Straight up.

Let me explain. I don't even want to go there because I don't want to turn this interview into a cap interview, right? Boy, thank you. What I can say, go. Let me tell you something.

Rob Reef Tull changed my life. You know what I'm saying? He heard, you know what I'm saying? I was working with Biggie on a project, and he came and divide and conquer. He said, yo, you doing this work with Biggie? I said, yeah, I only had two albums before that.

I had no money, no nothing, Flojo, none of that shit made money, sold records, this and this and that. He's like, y'all want to give you your own label. He took me to Atlantic, and because I was going to put out a project with Biggie, it's the only reason. I never sold, I didn't deserve my own record later. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You had records with Biggie?

Yes, where you at, under a rock? I'm trying to tell you. No, you got a, they never came out. That's the inception. That's the exception of Cap, Joe. Because I told people, I was doing the, man, I don't want to start it. Listen, I don't have it.

No, no, no, no, no. I'll commit to, no, I'm too real. You know I ain't going to lie. Never. Being big, he was cutting records. He wanted to be the black don't. I'm the Spanish Dawn. Some people call it Cap.

Whatever. This is crazy. But Rob Tulo, as the A&R of Atlantic, heard that I was doing this project that stepped to me. It was like, yo, you're doing it. And I'm like, yeah. And he was like, yo, yo, I want to give you your own record.

I didn't even deserve the record. He was all the million dollars. I might have had two grand in my fucking bank account. But you had pun already, right? No, not yet. This was T.S. This is Teres Squad Records, right? Yeah, but this is the beginning.

This is before even one. Okay. Or nothing like that. It was just me. I only had two albums. A hustling is the key to success of Flojo. So Rob came and gave me millions, my own record label.

And that's why they gave me my record label because he was like a biggie fucking with this guy. Fat Joe's on our shot you with Ella and all them. That was out already. Let's grab them right. Yeah, that was out. So he was like, no, the momentum. The projection was there. It just wasn't there.

You know how we all said Bigel wouldn't have died. He would have been the biggest. So I was like projected to win, but I wasn't there yet. And Rob took the chance with me. and did that same thing with Scott Storch when he introduced me to Scott Storch and he was just so talented and I was just like, yo,

and I'm the first to go, yo, Scott Storch on a hit record. I just used that tag on the song, he just played some keys on the song. I just drive with A. Z. Chike and Baby Chon and I only Spang Nitty. You heard the Yo, Scott Storch, what's up? I put that shit on.

After that, he had cheese lines outside this thing. Let me tell you, he was crazy about you producers, man. Yo, Jada, it's the truth. Scott's too good. After I shouted out, Scott Storch, I'm going to the studio, it's Method band, Red Man, this one, that was cheese lines of rappers.

Whoever's your number one rapper is out, Jada, was you on the line? Yes, he was. He was, you know, Scott was over. Y'all, what I've done? You, I see you up here. Y'all, let me tell you something. You don't give Fadjo credit,

but I set a lot of trends in this game. I've seen Scott Storke. You know, we have it, boy, and I don't get miss here. Scott Storch is old enough. You guys. I was trying. I was Scott.

We can't have Scott Storch now. You told him. No, he can't. But let me tell you something. No, it's a lot of Scott Storch stories. Listen, so I go to Scott Storch? Yo, come on. See, yo.

That man is Leonardo the Capio of the music game. When he tells his story, he got stories. Oh, my God. He lived a life. He lived a life. Did you guys, no, a super life. Did you guys ever, like, make a pack?

So you come see Jada and it's like, all right, I hear this for Jada, but you keep the other pack for Jay-Z. I used to hate these producers. They come in the studio to bring us beats. They'd be playing some shit. They'd be like, oh, this is for Hove. Hey, it's all. I'm over there trying to make a fucking hit.

I got a fucking wrench around my brain trying to crack open or something We went through a lot of that on Bad Boy with Big They used to play the beat To say, nah, that's for big Why the fuck did you play it for me? Yo, my own to suspect We, if you were wondering

Wild all the mix that were coming to the shit with Mattiband They'd be like, oh, I can't really give you that That's the red man And yeah, we're like, yo, my man, like, what the fuck? What you give me? I'm chopped liver. We used to come to the state.

studio, you remember those days, like, in battery when y'all would have, like, album mode, and we used to come and line up. It would be Buckwild, rock while, whoever, come with the dads and have to play beats. But y'all used to have the fucking shenanigans. Like, I remember one time, it was you and punited to studio, and I came in the studio

to play beats, and it was a hammer on the table, allegedly. So he was saying, all right? So I walked in, and Plum was sitting all the way on the back on the couch against the wall, right? That's what he used to say. And he put he went and grabbed the apple. He He put an apple on his head.

I'm fine. I just told the thoughts. He put an apple on his head. Holy shit. Put an apple on his head. Hold on. Take the fucking. He put it.

Listen, I spoke to Joe in a minute. He put an apple on his head. He said, yo, Joe. Joe. Joe said right now, right here. He said, Joe, go, go ahead. Joe said, no, we can't do that right. He said, go, go, go.

Joe took the hammer. Boom! And put him went like this. They made the, it was an air gun. He made the apple move. I tell that story recently about he did that with Tony Sunshine today. You know, they never put us in battery studios again. Tone Sunshops put the Apple on some young, this little white engineer.

Yeah. And they punt did the same shit. Shot it. They never let me rant bad a studio again in my life. It was my favorite fucking studio. Those sessions were crazy. Those fucking sessions were crazy, man. He gets one taken back.

He gets one taken back from the cap. Story checks out. Story checks out. He gets his time out and he gets another challenge. Those were crazy days, man. But, yeah, I mean, you know, but they were the fun days. For sure. See, I thought you was a member of Marb Deep.

I mean, shit, you can say that. Well, the way I looked at it. Yeah. Right? Because you got havoc, you know, niggas calling that the number one album of all time produced. Straight up. I see lists all the time. Like infamous?

Yes. Infamous is out. And so you come afterwards and team up with people. prodigy. Murder music. You put in mean work with him. Murder music is

when I got down. How do you come in when he already has a Dr. Drake? So I thought you was the third member of Marble deep. I swear to God.

I mean, you know, listen, I tell Halv all the time. I thank him and that's a real testament to confidence. He's having. He made a whole sound.

So when I got to to New York, I was around soaking up all that shit, figuring out how to make the drums a certain way. Like, Hav is a mastermind genius.

We know this, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, the connection was through Cyprus. So it's funny how I work. You know, Mugs was working with them all. I came to New York. He linked me with them. And they just saw me in New York, like just out here, Dolo. Still reprimper solo assassins, but they were like, come fuck with us, you know?

And I just, I was out here kind of by myself. So them put me into the mix. You know how that made me feel? Like, think of that, murder music is, they already did hell on earth, infamous. That's what I'm trying. I was a fan when I met him, you know what I'm saying? So the fact they left, and you know how it is, it was gradual too. Because they're not the type to just be like, come on and you're with us.

It took a while until I went to Ray Kwan's wedding. And I went, you know how you go to a wedding and they're giving them shuttle bus? It was sitting next to Rizzen his wife. Wizard turns around. It's like, you know, I used to let you, you know, work with Ray. Like, you know, some crews, they wouldn't even like, let you work with each other. They'd be like, yo, he was like,

yo, you know, I'm glad we got the wedding because, you know. I feel about that. I mean, that's, you know, Rizzer was the boss. That's like you called my outfit, the little outfit. He's kind of like little out of way. I used to let you wear it with a pinky in the brain. That shit looking fly right there. But, you know, your brother compliments your outfits, man.

You can say something about my outfit, man. That's outfits. See, motherfucker boy, he won't give you a compliment for nothing. I think, God, damn it. You come to me, it's all the time. Yo, listen, but where we was at with, but Cruz, like, even me, right?

And I, please, I don't want to start no type of beef. I worship you guys. I love you guys to death. Well, I'm a member of digging in the crates from the beginning. And I remember when they asked me to do I shot you. LLs, I shot you with

some of the members was like, you don't rock when, no, they was the underground. They, they, they, they didn't believe that it was some of them. It was forbidden for you to do a shingle that was about to blow.

They didn't want you. Yeah, with my idol, L.O. Kooja, I was like, yo, this is my idol. This guy's four-time planning. It was like, David James, they was like strictly underground.

There's seven members in digging in the crows. Let's get to it. Who was it? No, I can't. But what I'm saying to you, what I'm saying is, yeah, Joe.

At least two to three members, no, I think I know who it was. Two to three members. I think I know who it was. It was like, yo, we only rock. No, it wasn't show. It wasn't show.

It was like, it's two or three members. It was like, yo, we rock with us. And I was just like, I said, that was the one time I said, man, I don't. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't Andre the Giant. Leave it alone. No, it wasn't.

We can narrow it down. But that record was hard. You see I was born yesterday? No, it was a stepping stone. You know what I'm saying? It was almost like a pop that French Montana. Like, it was at time. I shot to put me on another.

Was that a Chris Lady? Here's he. It was Chris Lyddy and Chris Lydie and, um, trackmaster. Yeah, beat. Yeah, but Chris. They fucked with me. They fucked with me hard. So they came there with my second album.

I was working at battery. Mm-hmm. It was like, yo, you want to jump on this LL. But I know about, you know, you working with prodigy. You know, I know they must have some internal talks. Like, yo. Ah, man, we ain't talking about that. He made it in.

He made the shit. It was always love. I have always showed me love, but we kind of, you know, still, sharp and still. No, we got a shout out,

Al, we got a shout out my man Keg, AKA rock star, aka Time, Yadi, and Rory, because he put us together. That's right.

And yo, you know what's crazy? He's doing this thing now. Shout to Kegg. My God, you might have him their best record ever. And you know what's crazy?

Do you remember? No, no, that's a phone. No, it's definitely time. He has a fan. I don't know what he liked. He gave me still, feel me, feel me?

This is another connection. That's crazy. Look at this. Remember the beat for bringing on? Remember to be for bringing on? Huh? Remember to bring it on beat, right? Bring it on.

So there was a stretch on still. It was a stretch on strong. L.O.A. We balled in and threw that beat in the COVID club, you talking about? And then Stretch came and told me, y'all was asking who did the beat? Because I didn't know y'all yet. I shouted to stretch. Even that on stretch.

We went up on stretch. We can't drink us. We balled out. Now, what's the real story? This is the last time we ever going to talk about this. Because shout out to my brother, Rascat. Hold on. I ain't going to say.

Shout out to his son's after his bar, my dad. Joe. Rastcast is a legend. But let me say. Shout out to Tadra Moses. Chill out. I'm talking.

I got a moment for me. Can I have my moment? I don't want to take my moment. No, no. Let me get my moment. It's a coffee you can try. No what I'm saying? So.

whatever happened because all I know you came and played me some beats I picked that and that then I got a you know what I mean because it was really you I took the heat for it here

but it was really out he didn't tell me what was going on with it we took the last time we ever going to talk about this because he's all love so let's it was just a mix up man it was a misunderstanding and I had love for both of y'all

I still do you know shout to rap I just saw RASS last week. Living legend. His kids were killing it. Ghost Contra. Shout on. It was a mix up. It was early in my career.

You know what I'm saying? And it was like, it was a lot of little moving parts and shit that happened. But in the end, I wish it didn't go that way. You know what I'm saying? But in the end, the record we made definitely became something that lasted forever. And shout to Rass too. You know what I mean? It was just a mix-up back in that time.

But, you know, I wish the best for everybody. Everybody's doing great now. Well, you know what that happened to me? Yo. Don't tell me we all the world. Yo, I throw this flag ahead of top. What beat did he have first? We all the world.

We all the world. Damn. Fuji Lai was made for me in my face by Salam Remy. Right after Floodew and I'm not telling you, I wouldn't have did a better job than Fuji Lai. But I was in his house. In my hand, he made Fuji Lai in my face for Fat Joe. to be number one. He said Lauren Hill came like two hours later

and was like, oh, no. Not fat, Joe, this is my shit. And they snatched up that Fuji lie. It was made for me. If you listen to Fujila, it's the same type of drums as flow, Joe. Same pace, saying everything. She came and threw that shit in the COBRA clutch. It was like, yo, I need this.

Let me get that batch. Okay. I just heard recently you said, when the lose was originally for me and P? I never told you why. What a phone. No, see, this is what happened. You know, when we were doing mob albums,

you know, can we hear that? Yo, could you play win or lose right now for one second, man? Just think about, imagine. Imagine this. We were finishing the mob album, and like, when we were doing the album, we would go to the studio and work, but sometimes they were coming to my crib

and you record joints. So that was a joint I had in my crib in the computer. So the album was done, and I was like, I went secretly, I hadn't told you, but I was, like, hoping they would forget as I wanted to put S-P and Kiss on it. And then P came to my crib a week before they were finishing the album

was like, yo, remember that one drink we had in the computer? And I was like, oh, yeah. Damn. But you know what I'm saying? I always thought, what would that have been like, man? Because all they wanted to say, imagine, you know what I'm saying? You know, he and Joe or Jeter,

we don't let nobody finish their answers. I'm glad he said. I'm glad that was one of the best things you You have it said. Y'all, thank you, brother. They need to clap with you and that, man. Yeah. I need to do a clip of like, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh.

You know what happens is I just be like, the ideas come up while I'm hearing that. I'm like, oh, I've got a better. I feel it. I feel it. I got to work on that. Put it up. Cranky crocker, man. Oh, you would have went crazy, right?

Y'all can't. Suck it down. Imagine that. Yo, you would have went crazy. I had the right idea. Whoa! Another day, another dollar. It's about getting money.

Woo! Give me a holl in my nose running. I've been out in the cold. Hustle for so long. My hands numb. I bet I feel that paper hit my palm. It's like all shit. It's on.

Time to go shopping for cars, not fashion. I wish to be the ball. My clothes. Be the same shit that we had on. Fuck, looking cute. Say that for the Bronx. It's the AJ, V-O. Z dump and reload.

Knock, knock. I said that I'm flashing through the people. Slip. I'm talking. Paid lawyers. be those. He was different me the only

niggas you know that fuck they P.O's they push our files in the top. You still on parole. We got money to roll. No time for penitiation. Turn that all.

He was different, man. Peace. If I was sure I wouldn't want to hear that. That's a, well, anyway,

that's a legendary song but that definitely got the locks written. It would be a phrase. Oh, my. That's a time for they took. When we were talking about the new style. We're going to toast to the new album, then we're going to talk about it.

Well, we could toast the life. End the life. And the life. They got the new album, Goldfish. You know what I mean? With these two. Album in the film. Album in the film.

We're going to toast right quick. Who came up with the title and why is it called Goldfish? I mean, shit. Life be like that. We'd be stuck in a ball just going in circles and shit sometimes. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, mentally, whatever it is. It's a couple meetings when you see it, you know what I mean

You don't really understand what's going on Now y'all both spitters turn producers Or producers turn spitters I was making my own songs before I made beats And I man, to be honest The beat shit was just on some like fun shit for me You know, just still is It's like I replaced playing video games

We're making beats Because the FL studio look like Tetris They was clowning that shit when they drive like And they was like real producers don't use You know, fruity loops now It's like all the Drake hits, a lot of Kendrick kids, a lot of niggas shit, being made on FF, you know what I mean?

You know what me? I don't care where the fuck the beat came from long as it's knocking. He's made it with two fruit loop boxes. Who gives this shit? The shit is knocking. I don't really get about it. They got the rumor that haven't came up with the shit

from the project, the light, from the stove. From the stove in the project. That really came from that? Well, that's what the room is. I don't know if it's confirmed. That's hard, though, because everybody's stove did that. It's a good stuff.

I think it was just the engineer playing the high hats in the beginning of the day. Maybe. It fits. It's a good conversation. I like it. My point is, you know, let me turn you.

Gold bottles, goldfish. My God. The goldfish, man. More life, God. More wealth.

Don't respect. More money. No, how do you get on? Go fit. I'm many times you ever ship the ace on the ace of space. Yeah. Right, right.

Right. Right. It's this classy. This is classy. This is really classy right here. back on the drink who was just in Starlitz last night hours ago man that shit I'm still recovering

oh shit we don't bring that into these conversations every time somebody say some shit like that you start to hide behind the pillow and shit yo how was Starlets? It was amazing man great time I love it

it was your family and that motherfucker huh that's the devil's dang it's a good spot man it's a good spot I'm sitting in Bobby booie trap one night in fucking Miami. I'm my man, money. And we're throwing so much money, so much this.

And I turned around, I seen the greatest Caribbean, Asian, white, the Spanish, I said, oh, no, the devil's in here. This is the devil's lair. We got to get out of it. Sometimes you got to run out of a place like that. Oh, Philly. I'm at the Yankee. By the way, they call me the bad news. What do they call me?

The Jigs. I'm the mush. We won last night, B. That boy, Judge, hit that shit out the park. Mayer had to, he told the whole, yo, he fucked himself so royally. He told the whole section, if Judge hits a home run, I'm buying drinks.

That nigga hit the home run. Mayer had to buy every, don't go messing with cotton odd joke. These are different kind of fans out there. He'll, like, triple of Tito's. doubles, I say, yo, you got You know, they was ordering doubles and tripples and, you know, listen

some women came by and she said, I noticed you've been drinking Diet Pepsi and she brought me a Diet Pepsi the whole section looked at me. I said, seek the king, bro. Seek the king, no mistake. What's going on with that? Who's on out?

Y'all two features we got. What's going to give us a little sneak? You know, me Conway. Conway got a solo song on there. Shit, we got Bodie James. Boldie, shut out. You got my pop's big hit on their head. Who else on that motherfucker?

Havoc. But we ain't want to do a compilation album. I think people probably expect it because we do the beats. But once we link, it's just where it went. Because it started from a record that we did together, like, what was it, two years ago? He was working on a project, hit me up. And shit was like, yo, I think he saw. I just did a verse on the Larry June.

I don't really rap a lot. You know what I'm saying? When I was working, shout to my brother, Larry June. He was like, yo, would you get on this joint right here with me? I was like, you want me to rap on it? He said, yeah, yeah, it had to be dope. And it was like a 12 bar. So it was easy, you know, sometimes when I'm making beats,

I just write just to test drive the beat, you know what I'm saying? You know, I come from one of the greatest producer rappers ever done. Diamond Dean, shout out to Diamond Dean. And so he got a classic album and all that. And so actually, he brought me in the game. Like, I was born and raised by a producer that rap. So I always had love. had love for producers that rap

is hip hop that bad now that the producers got to say, yo, we're gonna rap. It's not even about that. It ain't even about that, you know what I mean? It's just like, this is a natural organic leakup, my nigga, like we just make good songs together, you know, and this shit just, you know,

and it just became something, you know what I mean? It turned into, you know, this is our first real album. We dropped the EP with like three songs, like a year and a half, two years ago, something like that, but it's like a full-length joint, you know what I mean? And showing the camaraderie. You know what I'm saying? Producers, I don't think it's as competitive as the rapper thing.

Like, I felt like the producers, like, we all fuck with each other. You know what I mean? So, like, I used to hit him up every year. Like, he was saying the end of the year, like, damn, you kick him my ass. Like, I got to go crazier. You know what I'm saying? So it was just a natural connect. And then after the one record that we did, when he saw me rapping and we did a record,

and it went up. And he's like, got like millions of views on YouTube, and we were like, damn. I think people like seeing the camaraderie. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think that was the biggest attribute to the lots. Besides them being very, very talented, is their unity and their loyalty. And the people love that. You know what I'm saying?

So many, unfortunate, there's so many legendary groups. These artists don't even talk to each other no more. They don't talk with each other. They don't miss. So when we see the unity like that, We really, really appreciate that. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what?

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I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick, Dick, and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You yourself, right? You're having pause what we call it, like, glow up. Okay? So this guy, he's been already, you know, he was making beats in Paris with them giving him macaroon. You know, he's hand out with fucking Beyonce and fucking Hamptons.

They're bringing them chill shrimp and shit. This guy, his profile, been really high, right? Kanye, right? He's from that whole factory, right? But you, you always been to underground, and lately, I've been seeing the collaborations.

Eric Ba-Doo, that's already. Her baby's father is this top five dead or alive, right? So it's like, yo, you collaborate with her. So I'm seeing this. Like everybody is real on a mainstream level appreciation of alchemist. Do you know you in that moment right now? Or do you, you know, does it feel different? With all of these collapse, do you have any joints left for me?

Don't make me pull up my text messages. We have, we got here. You hit me before. You did a lot of, you guys. Yeah, hold on the minute. Hold on a minute. He definitely, I deserve that flat. Nah, you know, me and Jayda, come on, we got work to do.

You know that, unfinished business. But, I mean. It too, though, man. It's the only one joint. We never got to do it, but I need. Well, we, we do. I mean, I think, you know what it was? In the volume of my life.

You know what it was? It's like, it feels like, you know, when you're playing a video game, and you kind of playing the good and you turn the, the speed up or put it on the more advanced level. And then you start figuring it out. Like, Dan, I could go, I'm speeding now. I'm like, this was easier than I thought. It's starting to feel like that a little bit.

Like, because we got to rinse and repeat formula in the last five, 10 years of, you know, just doing records with different artists like Bodie James or Rock Marcy or, you know, action broncen. I could name, you know what I'm saying? I could go on. The current one is Freddie Gibbs, you know, Alfredo. And it's like, it just feels like, I, we in. motion.

Shit is going. I'm not second-guessing. I'm pulling the trigger. You know what I'm saying? I'm thinking about my brother P. You know, this time was limited. You know,

especially going through the stuff we got. I'm like, if we got it now, we got to, we got to go. And it's like, I still got it in me. I don't feel like,

I still feel like I could get better. I feel like we got on finished business. I feel like, I hit you out every now and then. Like, what's up, crack? Like, we could still make some magic.

Like, I still, I don't care about none of that. It's not a young man's sport. They got to stop talking about that. Tell him, man. The shit is bullshit. I don't know where that narrative came from. I don't know where it's lonely at the top came from.

Because why can't we all be at the top together? Like all of that stuff, I don't, it doesn't register with me. So, you know, it's just timing, man. And I feel blessed that you saying that. Y'all, y'all was like, you know how I feel about both of the all for. So to get that from you guys, that means I'm doing the right thing. And, you know, I'm saying. Just tied in when my brother hit, you know, he goes as crazy as I do.

And I feel like that's where we. connected, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I appreciate it. You know what I mean? Definitely. I mean, I feel like you're a part of the white mafia, too. Allegedly. Yo, yo, yo.

That's funny. Could be. Could be. That's a fact. I don't know, I don't know. No, because it's like, you're all well, put it. I feel like Eminem, he got this crew. Rosenberg.

It's got Rosenberg. He'll snatch up Reef. It'll snatch up Archimus. He'll go get action Bronson. He'll go, he got like this. Y'all got a white mafia. Bing Bong. They got a, no, they got a, you see.

Y'all got a white mafia. And I'm happy for it. You know, y'all got a mob like that. I see NEMs over there on that side. Ding Bong. Okay. Shout to this. You know what I'm saying.

Nems. over there on that side too. I feel like who reaches out? Is it Eminem or Paul? Who says, yo, we got to stick up. They're ready to be down with us. They look. They say, all right.

You don't know, huh? That sounds fly, though, man. But I'm on to something. I'm not amazing. Paul go get to him. I'm not delusional. Shout to call. I am.

You know what I mean? Eminem. We don't talk about them enough on this platform. He's my brother. He's my friend. You know, I got, I can't tell you, like, I get it all the time. But I remember I did the album.

What album was it where I said I retired? And I remember I was in my mother's house. My phone rang from an unknown number. And I picked it up and it was Marshall. And he talked to me for two hours. Like, your jaw, I've been listening. You still got it. You don't need to.

I was like, I wanted to knock on the neighbor's houses and all. I'd be like, oh, this shit fucking Eminem. Talking to me for an hour and two telling me, yo, talking me off the retirement list. Like, yo, you got to. You got to stay working. You got it. That's one of the biggest honest I've ever had.

And to have that relationship with him is amazing because, you know, people, they forget. Like, you know how you just said, yo, let's go back to Rob Rees Toulog. Let's go back to that. A lot of people forget all these different layers of what's going. You know, we just be stuck on 2025. Right. And sometimes you don't think about what Eminem came out. a man, big pun, was online.

And fucking L.A. That was just before the Grammys in the sunset. The fucking, we waited online for that album. And you ain't waiting on that line for that album if he wasn't the guy. You know what I'm saying? He was phenomenal. He was incredible.

Sometimes you try to explain it to kids that wasn't there at that time. You changed shit. And I'm going to tell you, you think we work hard? I've never seen nobody work like him to this day. The level that, like right now, he's in the studio right now. I can put bed it.

Every day, I'm telling you, on tour, headphones in the hotel room writing. Still. So, you know, when I think I'm doing like that, too. Yeah, all the way in it, all like inside the middle of a tornado, like, they're not coming out of it. You know what I mean? That was crazy. Yeah. That's crazy.

I remember when I got him on the Lean Back remix, he said the same verse 30 times. It was the same verse, but he would say the word a little different to say it this way. And this, this, and we like, fuck, we got the Eminem verse. We let this bitch go. And he's just like, yo, yo, yo, but hold up. Sending you another verse. It's the same verse. But like with a different tone or cadence or this.

And it's like 30 times. And I'm like, is this the one? Perfectionist. Can we? He's a perfectionist, man. And shout out. What's up with the film that's attached to the project? Man.

It was a little bit. It was a good idea that it came up with when we were working because we were going to do a bunch of videos Of course He was like, we should shoot a movie You know, I'm like, about what? You know, and he was like, First it was like about us and we were like,

Nah, fuck that, let's just get with somebody And get a script Put some bread up and shoot a fucking movie to go with this out Play characters outside of ourselves Not just in a conventional music movie Where it's like a little scene And a music video pop up And ain't no shit like that

It's like a real beginning, middle end type of shit It's a real story to it. So, yeah, yeah, got Danny Treo in there. We got Simon Rex. Yeah, a bunch of good actors. Roy Culking. Conway's in there. High level, high level shit.

Yeah, yeah. A shot on film, 16 millimeter film. It's like, yeah, some high level art. You know what's crazy is, you know, when we talk of movies, it made me remember that Taylor Swift just put out a movie with her album. You know, she sold three million records in one day. I heard that. Cardi B had a record.

for like three days. This shit incredible. Cardi B playing in a day. In a day. So how many streams is there? We got to find out, man. It's like two zillion. I think it was like merch and shit.

Mike, it's right. You know, Birdman just said he got, he did a trillion streams with all his artists. I believe it. Birdman just said it. Yeah, it's crazy. Yo, but. I have no knowledge of.

But Taylor Swift, Cardi B broke the Guinness World Record. Her shit lasted. day, three work days. Here came Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift came with the $3 million in one day. Like this shit and a movie.

The shit sold like $30, $60 million. Oh, strange. No, no. She sold it. Brother Man, she sold $1 million copies in one day. This is a fact on World Goodness Look it up.

Taylor Swift came out less than a week later and sold $2.7 million in one day. With the movie. You listen to the I love Travis Kelsey's my brother. I love everything about,

do you know who got me fool? Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift got me fooled. Because we all know you be waiting to meet people. How many times you waited to meet somebody forever and you're like, you know, man, this guy ain't shit. Or they got an attitude. Do they cocky or they arrogant?

You say that about Taylor Swift? No, I just think, I really believe she's a nice, This person. No, you're not listening to what I'm saying. I'm honestly, I met everybody. I've hung out with, I've hung out with the biggest superstars in the world, in the history of mankind.

Where you going with Swift? No, I'm talking about the biggest. Where you going with the Swift piece right then? And we talk to some crazy shit, and the fan come over and they go, and come back, yeah, fuck these motherfuckers, this, this. I'm like, damn. Like, I've been with the biggest full of shitters in the world.

I'm trying to tell you, Taylor Swift got me fooled. I'm believing she's a nice person. Great. Now, I'm telling you the truth. My whole, since she came around, I said, man, it's a nice girl. She's a fucking nice person. Taylor Swift, she's a nice lady, man. This girl.

You know, and everybody's full of shit. And when you get to know people, and you be like, holy shit. You know what this shit? I'll tell you a story. Fuck it. I say a name, right? I waited maybe 10 years, maybe 15 to meet Bruno Mars.

Okay? What are you don't want me to do? This is the true story, guys. You want me to tell the story or not. You waited. What do you mean you waited? Because, no, I got to let it go. It's, you know, he's Puerto Rican.

At least that's what they say. So I did, like, like we know, we know. In Africa. We know, no, that's my basketball player. But go ahead, listen. We know bad bunny's Puerto Rican. Like he got the flag. J-Lo does the Super Bowl with the flag, this and this and that.

I've been hearing that Bruno Marr's Puerto Rican. But I never got to beat him. So the whole time I'm excited. You know, I want to bring him into Puerto Rican mafia, right? You know how y'all got the white mafia, right? So I'm at the awards and I'm sitting next to him. James, I'm telling you a story, James.

Don't look at the fucking computer. I'm telling you the truth. I'm sitting next to him at the awards. I'm going to keep it all the way on it. I'm sitting right next to somebody in the wards. I'm saying, oh shit, boo-morrow. I'm going to talk to somebody. He said, yo, he's a fuck nigga.

I'm saying. The guy next to me said, you might not want to do it. He's a fuck nigga. I said, what? Yo, Bruno, what's up, man? Yo, what's that? Yeah, what's up, Joe? He's with Anderson Pack.

I'm like, yo, you Puerto Rican? He got up. Fuck, you mean? I'm a real fucking Puerto Rican for Bristwick, Brooklyn. Don't ever ask me shit in your life. And went and sat on the other side of the... Man, broke my heart. Do you?

He tripped, though? That's crazy. What? Did you know he was real Rican? Bro, I wasn't challenging... This wasn't a... lag if he's a real... Like, tell me something.

Who's your father? Pedro? I'm Alej. The nicest way being awards. I'm wearing Hermes. I'm not bothering nobody. I'm in there...

You have a demeanor, Joe. You have a demeanor. No. Bruno Mars. I've been waiting 15 years. The action is he was Bodie? He could have just said, yeah, I'm Bodie.

What's up, Bodie? Okay. I don't know. A lot of you artists is weird. I ask the motherfucker question that starts a gang war. Like, the nice. The answer to the question is, we want peace.

Yo, you in the game this? We want peace. I need you. Right? Yo, you in a gang? Yeah, I'm in a gang. Yeah, I'm in the gang. Fuck you.

Let everybody kill each other. This, no. The answer is, yeah, Puerto Rican, what's up, bro? I love big pun. I thought that's a normal movie. Man, screamed on me. They left. Went to the other movement.

It was mad. Like, you know, other side of the fucking awards looking like. And I didn't. I was like, yo. beat up his pops? You know, we've been around for a minute. Like, no, I swear to God.

I say, yo, we need to see if we beat up his bops or something. This shit seemed personal. What did Anderson Puck? Beat up Grandpa. Anderson Pett. I love me, man. Your Fadry, Joe, what's up?

He got some teeth and shit. That's my guy. You know, he got some teeth. Oh, you crazy. You got the head, dude. That's like your fat Joe. What's up, brother? Oh, shit, man.

Digging in the crazy, baby. You know, I understand it back. That's my guy, man. You responded like I thought Bruno was going to respond to me. I was like, yo. Bruno, if you don't remember it, I forgive you. But you did that, brother. You did that to...

Fending him, I ain't forgiving me. You got to apologize to you. Okay, say the lady that sung that it was over like a fap from Yonkers. Fonderey. Fonderey. If you go off to Fonda Ray. I'm never the dish. And you say, hey, Fonda, you from Yonkers.

And she gets to fuck up. Don't ever talk to me like this And you're fucking looking. You're like, yo, that's all it never happened. She's seen me go into the store with red when I was in. Well, it happened to me with Bruno Mars. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

Sometimes you can't wait. I waited 15 years to meet Bruno Mars. Like, I really, you know, a lot of these guys. He waited so long. He should have went to his crib. A lot of these guys can break your heart, man. You know, I'm telling you the truth. You meet him and you're just like,

You know, I go above and beyond a smile at everybody when they come up to me. Hey, fat, Joe. What's up, God? I just told you a ass time square the other day. He said, what's up, pussy? He said, what's up, pussy? He said, I'm not pussy. Yeah, Jayda, you give it.

Hey, pussy. Come on. He said, I'm not pussy. I'm from Southern Boulevard, Joe. He's for the Bronx. He said, I'm not pussy. I'm not pussy. I'm from Southern Boulevard.

I heard me. We all fell. Yo, Jay, you're giving up the sequel. When is the album Drop? 24th. Yep.

Yep, this month. 24th with the film. Make sure you all check it out, man. Real hip-hop. Authentic shit. We got to try it. Play one?

Yeah, we got a hit. By the intro. Business merger. Business merger. Play that joint. Play me the joint that you think might be the biggest

because it's going to be Pickle is going to be the biggest after this show. Let's watch the video with the joint. That's the song. You sure you want to do the video? Why? Because our shit is listening.

No, but we could hear it, isn't you? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go. This is exclusive. You might have to do you have to multitask. We're going to have to multitask. You know, watch the video. We never played nobody's video.

This is exclusive. Oh, this exclusive. We're getting exclusive in. First time. It's exclusive. That's crazy. Anderson Pack was a great guy. Same time.

Yeah, that's my guy. And they were down with each other, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're sitting right there with him. He's with him. I got a different reaction. He's probably a great guy, too. That Molly must have been in your cat.

He probably just doing something. Legend. He was on that yago. When I see Mars, when I see Mars, no, no, he was probably on that. Mars Man of Fat. He must have been on that dead end when I met him. He was on that dead end. He was on that dead end.

That's a fat. No, I'm trying. He was on that dead end. Yeah, loud, please. Out. HB. Yeah. My heart open just to get this off my chest

and left my heart broken. Seeing how goofies are move for the green. Saying we're on the same team, but what do that mean? Why build a bridge just to watch niggas set it a blaze. Don't get me heated. Ain't no way to control the inferno. Feel a spirit of prodigy. I've been keeping it thorough.

I'd rather do it by my lonely than fake with the pack. And if you can't stay down and stay where you add, I feel like we're new standing. I'm going over the matters from information. I gather. finding the answers. I've been reading over the chapters. They've doctoring up the numbers. Forging all of their data. My godly values speak at high values without ever having to beat the loudest in the room. I move like a commander in the military. You ain't even qualified. Get past the preliminaries.

Separate a war winners. True. From a war presenters. I seen some evil done. I'm still shaking off the jitters. I'm coming with the thunder. Yeah, I'm going Thor with the hammer. Was counting six, seven, eights before I lived in Atlanta. It's my heart that make me different. This link is apocalyptic. I'm being out, moving peer of the niggas in our division. I'm tired of acting like this shit ain't watered down for real fucking 9 to 5 if you can't relate to this type of feel now. Gave you boys a break now I gotta deal with me. I try to give them the game, they ain't keep it real with me. I'm homies all supposed to come up and get rich with me.

I'm sure these I're supposed to stay down and have kids with me. Long story, it's a lot. Now my circle's so small that it's closer to a dot. They thought I was wrecking Grape Street. I'm turning up the Watts while I'm beating up the Pots. High man. Right now I'm speaking with my chest out. Smoke to prevent from getting stressed out.

The Lamborghini got the breast out. I'm working with a different type of text out. Everything simple janet and a protect out. I'm not a vegan. I'm a reptile. My appetite for this. This is going to try to and deciphering. Don't go to press if I can't sneak a rifling.

Got paper in circulation. We keep it cycling. We don't do collaboration. It's a business merger. Cut a pot, split a burger and make a stretch like a fitness worker. I'm on my shit for certain. Onstage checking a mic behind a custom Dr. Romanelli Curvin. I'll give you extra cuts like a deluxe version.

A couple stripes when I'm finished, you need a cut surgeon. Hits drum and got the truck swerving. Meetings with a tuck shirt in. You can never put enough working. I'll put a couple hundred-k hours in days without showering. No face to put a flower in. No paper to put the sour in. Still no way I'm going to throw the towel in.

Me and HB standing 5-7 are still looking down on bums and towering. Never heard it like this. Back to back Beat for beat Bring it back I gave you boys a break Now y'all gotta deal with me I try to give them the game

They ain't keeping real with me I homies all supposed to come up And get ridst with me I'm some sorties I was supposed to stay down And have kids with me Long story, it's a lot Now my circle's so small That is closer to a dot

They thought I was rapping Great Street I'm turning up the Watts, nigga beating up the Pots Yeah Yes Yes Good out here We're good Man

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It's the fourth A bar What the fuck That was crazy That was nuts Goldfish Man The album

The movie The experience Make sure y'all Get in on all platforms Make sure y'all That's gonna go and talk man yeah this is he on try right he on tore right no this one you're getting it in man we're gonna do some shows yeah yeah gotta do let's see where it goes you know we got a lot

of stuff on the plate you got man shit i got mad shit going but we good right now we're in this phase going to fit this week you're archimus man I'm out of you man they hope you guys me is the most you're moving here boy you already uh you know you when your fucking sneakers are melting you are so on fire when your sneakers and you're Yo, Jada, look to the left, man. That's the sneakers, man. That's shit. He's got a music, right?

He's a... He's a... That shit, this shit is... Japanese. Japanese. That's done. That ain't those. And then you got the melting joints.

Check this out. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss, motherfucker. Give it up to a guest out. I can miss a hit boy in one time. Joe and Jane is show. Appreciate you.

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