The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Joe and Jada - Wu-Tang's Raekwon & Mobb Deep's Havoc on '36 Chambers,' Prodigy & REAL hip hop

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by a pair of New York City hip hop icons: Raekwon of the legendary Wu-Tang Clan and Havoc of Mobb Deep. Joe and Jada ask Raekwon about the making of the Staten Island c...rew's legendary 'Enter The Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers' album, his 2025 release 'The Emperor's New Clothes,' and his memories coming up in the 1990s with RZA, GZA, Ol' Dirty Bastard, Ghostface Killah, Method Man, and the rest of Wu-Tang. Havoc tells Joe and Jada about how he first met Prodigy in high school before forming Mobb Deep, when Nas first put him on to The Lox, and Mobb Deep's upcoming project 'Infinite' coming out later this year. The four hip hop legends also discuss Havoc and Raekwon's upcoming joint tour, the early days of Big Pun, how Staten Island and Yonkers earned their respect among the boroughs, and why the new generation of rappers have the game messed up. 5:00 - Havoc & Raekwson's start in NYC 14:30 - Ol' Dirty Bastard stories 21:30 - Upcoming joint tour 32:30 - When Joe & Raekwon met Big Pun 42:00 - Mobb Deep linking with The Alchemist 46:30 - Heavy D's influence 50:00 - Nas introducing Mobb Deep to The Lox 59:15 - Joe found his turkey chops 1:03:00 - Raekwon's 'The Emperor's New Clothes' 1:09:15 - They're calling EVERYTHING "hip hop" these days 1:27:00 - Why Joe and Jada is the hottest thing moving 1:32:00 - Havoc debuts new track "Against The World" off 'Infinite' [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:00 Do what you do. Get money. But stop calling everything fucking hip hop, man. Because everything ain't hip hop. Yeah, yeah. What's up? Y'all. It's your boy Joe Crack.
Starting point is 00:02:23 You know who it is. Your boy Jada. You know what this is. The Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. You know what I mean? The numbers speak for themselves.
Starting point is 00:02:36 But today is just that again. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome my brothers. Ray Kwan, Avaq, to the Joe and Jay. This show makes some more. Nah, shah,
Starting point is 00:02:54 not shah, you ain't, you ain't do that intro right, God. It's the Jarl Ray Kwan in this motherfucker. Havik. Ah,
Starting point is 00:03:02 is a... This is a TV show. This is a different type of, like, royalty on this fucking couch. Definitely, always. There's nothing but...
Starting point is 00:03:12 This ain't our regular couch. You, Ray, I'm sorry if I ever caused you any type of problems or anything. Because, you know, he's one of my best friends in hip-hop. Hold on. Have Ray, pardon me. Because he's going to tweak out several times. Well, they know I'm fried. I just have to give him the head-down.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I'm actually putting the Surgeon General, the Surgeon General, the Clause. I'm like, yo, Ray, man, I know I've done my to cause you so much. just being this friend. This is one of my closest friends on the earth. So I know the shit coming to him. You think you just start working with me and niggins is telling you, yo, fuck, Joe. Yo, he's why.
Starting point is 00:03:56 He's just, he would catch this straight fullest for 30. How's the new fraud? Yo, this guy I've been catching the straights for 30 years. He's been too close. I'm catching the new ones. I'm just telling him. I didn't they prepare. You know, how big is in the building.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Steve Rifkin's in the building you have. Yeah. I've got to. take it to, don't start. It's way too early. I didn't say it, yo. You know, I got cousins. You know, I got cousins.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I got cousins. I got cousins for Queensbridge. I used to be in Queensbridge. Oh, he's, as a kid. He threw me to Harry because he. No, no, I'm going to keep around with you. Fat Spanish kid. I wasn't even Joey cracked like that.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I used to visit my cousins in Queensbridge. I thought it was Brooklyn. Brooklyn every summer. Brooklyn is Williamsburg. Cornelia, all that shit over there. Williamsburg, listen, you're fucking me up. I'm telling them I got cousins. My cousin Bubu passed away.
Starting point is 00:04:55 My cousin, Evat, Gravity, he's one of the biggest breakdancers in the world. His mother and them, they come from Queensbridge projects. My cousins. Queensbridge, right? I think that's the most royal projects probably in the world of hip-hop. The biggest, right? Yeah, but I'm just saying the only other project I could compare to it as maybe Cabrini Green in Chicago, they're not even here. But just growing up in Queensbridge, what was that like?
Starting point is 00:05:26 Was you really coming outside seeing Shan on the corner, Roxanne Shanty? What was that like? Because I tell people my story growing up in the Bronx and missed the nest and me melanchol and they look at me like I'm lying or I'm an alien. what, please tell me as a kid, what was it like walking around Queensbridge when you're hearing that end to do the bridge to do what the fuck was that like? Nah, that was the type of shit
Starting point is 00:05:55 that made you be proud to be from QV, you know what I'm saying? Like, when you go to school, and like, where you're from? I'm like, I'm from Queensbridge. You know what I'm saying? Just like, you know what I mean? The bridge, right? You know, the bridge, like, straight up.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Like, you know where I'm from, like QB. So you're proud. And then you got MC Shan walking around with the different prunas or you might see Marley Mall and Roxanne Chante. So that boost your confidence up, you know what I'm saying, to become somebody because you're seeing somebody that came from around your way that made it coming through with the B&Ws and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So that was a definitely. What year was that? Shit, man. Like 80s, 84. You know what I'm saying? You seeing Roxanne Chantin in 84 when I'm like three years old. that's what I'm talking about. I seen Mr. Ness.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I was in the supermarket. My brother was like, yo, this is Mr. Ness. He had the braids with the beads. I had the Nikes. Like, he was a superstar. Like, when you looked at him, you already knew, yo,
Starting point is 00:06:56 oh, shit, who this? Like, he was just, he was walking around a supermarket, like looking like a star. Right. You know what I'm saying? And you went there, because it intrigues me.
Starting point is 00:07:05 You know, we've been around your hood. We've been around your hood. I've been around his hood. But I used to pump Kooji rap and drive around his hood in Queens. You know, we all been intrigued with each other's hoods. But your hood, they was the original superheroes,
Starting point is 00:07:24 the first supergroup in hip-hop because you got this, you got Molly Maul. You got the game in the Choco because you got Mr. Magic. So you own the radio station with fly-jog. You got Craig G. you got Master H, you got Roxanne, Chonte. Big Daddy Kane?
Starting point is 00:07:44 Straight up. What kind of shit is this? The symphony's ringing off and you seeing them on the block. That shit is, I mean, like I said, man, that shit was an inspiration. And they style was just crazy because y'all remember the Coca-Cola shirts and shit? Yeah. Like, Dad, the Benetton. They was coming through it all that.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Yeah, they was coming through with Dad. And the Big Daddy Kane, like, smooth operator. There's no way you could. become a fucking rapper. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I mean? Joe, you was around
Starting point is 00:08:14 you was around niggas too, though. Don't start them. Don't start him. Don't start him. I was, Ray, but I'm just talking about his block. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:23 Because when it comes to hip hop, I'm talking about global hip hop. You know, the bridge is what Compton is to L.A. Right. The first time we got a connection when L.A. is coming straight out of Compton
Starting point is 00:08:37 and you're like, what the fuck? Easy. with a flame throwing. You're like, I got to go there, right? And so that, I'm just trying to bring that essence else, but I was around all that.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Now, the guard, Brooklyn, your Brooklyn days, then your Staten Island days, I was out there early with y'all, you know what I'm saying? So,
Starting point is 00:08:59 what was it for y'all? They had a mega group out of Staten Island 2. Was indeed. Force and D. Hmm. Hmm. Force M-Ds.
Starting point is 00:09:10 You know how legendary. Wow. No, no, that's like they, maybe they would have kept going and made more hits. It would have been like a new addition. I know they came before boys and men, though, right? The four, yes.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah. How old you? You don't. You don't force them Ds at the house. He came in a long time before boys didn't it. They was doing shit. I guess everybody was probably trying to compare them at one point. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:37 I think you had to... I say they paved the way. I don't know. Wasn't he from Staten Island? The Thumb, I don't know. UMCs. UMCs just for all. They're Staten Island.
Starting point is 00:09:51 You got to stop. Yo, don't do that. No, Jayne, I'm a journey. Yo, Sahim Reed is in the building. Journalists of all journalists. We got so much royalty here. Well, what would, you know, Staten Island? Ray came from Brooklyn first, man.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I know that. He's got to say that first. I mean, you know. Tell us the Brooklyn aspect of it. Yeah, I mean, you know, I was a kid, man. You know, my mom's, you know, we come from Brownsville. My mom's got a side of there around, I was around nine years old. Never knew my dad, never had a relationship with him.
Starting point is 00:10:25 It's like when she had me, she found out that he was in the drugs. And, you know, back in the 70s, I guess, you know, he was doing a lot of gangster shit and getting in the shit and then when she found out he was on drugs she just said yo it was got the boat you know my mom's was like a tough skin lady so she felt like at the end of the day like yo youth nah i can't have you around my kid i don't even want to fuck with you because she just felt like he was getting into too much shit you know it got to the point where she was like you know because his um his mother lived in east new york um lived in the projects Atlantic towers east new york avenue rather right in that area right there.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Because I'm from Ocean Hill. So between Ocean Hill, you know you're right across Atlantic Avenue. Yeah. Turn into East New York. So anyway, you know, never had a relationship with them. They robbed our crib one time. We wasn't there. In Brooklyn?
Starting point is 00:11:21 We're school in Brooklyn. And now that just made my mom's be like, yeah, I don't know what? Let's get the fuck out of here. You know what I mean? And she had sisters that lived in Staten Island already. So they told her, they say, yo, come to Staten Island.
Starting point is 00:11:34 It's a little bit more safer. It's better over here. And they was helping it too because she needed some help at the time because she had us young. So she was still going to the work. She's working at the Twin Towers and all that. So she moved us to the island. So I left B.K. when I was around 8. You kept that, you know, it was over there East New York.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I told a story once I'm on the part. It's where my aunt used to live on this hill, Summit Hill or Miller. Miller Hill. my aunt, my godmother, I used to spend summers over there. And then I went to the projects and the DJ was playing that, baby, we can do it. Take your time. Do it right. We can do it, baby.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Y'all, let me tell you something. That's one of the first, I mean, pause on a higher level. I don't know if I'm saying it right, but that's one of the first songs that ever stimulated my brain in a different way. Like, I was a kid, but I knew when I heard it, I said, this is a masterpiece. Like, I heard the music. and everything. I would, you know, just a fan. I just was like,
Starting point is 00:12:37 yo, this is fucking incredible. This shit was dancing on my brain. Like, yo, this is crazy. He played it like three, four times. Staten Island, y'all, y'all threw that motherfucker on your bat on the legendariest of forms. And y'all actually made that like a bridge.
Starting point is 00:12:57 You personally. You, Meph, Ghost, Genius. You got, y'all made that shit like, the bridge of our era. Right. You know what I mean? Because I'm thinking about superhero. You know, one night I come out the club,
Starting point is 00:13:11 I keep it real with you. I came out the club in the Bronx. It was like five, six in the morning. And I keep it all the way tall with you, if you really want to know. KRS 1 had a show in the Bronx. And they pulled up. The whole entire juice crew pulled up.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And when we came outside, it was like six in the morning. He had already performed. like two o'clock. They was all outside. They had jeeps, Benz's, dapper dance, shit, this, things.
Starting point is 00:13:41 They was all outside. Like, this is the first time I ever seen. A big daddy cane, wide body kit, Benz, this. They was all outside like this. I don't know what they was coming for.
Starting point is 00:13:50 They just was like, fuck it. We're going to the Bronx and we're going, you know what I'm saying? But that's what I mean by superheroes. Right. That's how it was, or that's how it is
Starting point is 00:13:59 when we see you guys. When we see the Wooten, we look at y'all, you know, ghost face just came up here. I ain't going to lie to you. Shut up the stock. Tony,
Starting point is 00:14:09 Tony. That's your brother, but, you know, he's like a superhero. Dang. Now, when I see him,
Starting point is 00:14:17 I just feel like, oh, my God, it's like fucking ghost-faced royalty. That's how I feel. When I see him, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:14:24 yo, this shit, is it really ghosts on the fucking couch? You know, same thing with you. Let's go old dirty bastard, right?
Starting point is 00:14:33 We don't talk them about them enough in this show. How ill is old dirty bastard, bro? The Ellis. The Ellis. We go dirty one time. On two-fifth, we stopped at the juice ball. Each other loved the whole bottle of Tigerbone. I don't think nobody in the world.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I don't even think you're supposed to do that for one. Norrie can't do that. Hell no. Norris said that's the shit they used to make him a like a, like, a bad, like when he drink Tiger Ball, he won a fight. It's distracted from a tiger's bone.
Starting point is 00:15:12 All dirty to the head. Wow. Yeah, he gave him like that. That's how I knew he was human. He would have done nothing that there would have been but he still took the fucking whole bottle with Tiger to the head.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I know you had to see him do all type of incredible. Man, we go back so far, man, where we used to go downtown, downtown Brooklyn, Albi Square, and we used to be robbing and all that shit. We used to be up in A&S, you know what I mean, just catching polo shirts and all that. Hey, son, huh? Yeah, he was, he was serious with it. No, he must have been crazy before rap, right?
Starting point is 00:15:53 Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely. He was the guy you ain't really want to see out in them streets. But he was a good, no, he was a good nigga, though. You know what I mean? He wasn't, he was like a more like. a thief than a crook. She's a difference, you know what I mean? The crook is a crook got attitude all the time.
Starting point is 00:16:09 He's just funny and like the steel. He'll take two or three candy bars out. Yeah, just to just a... He's still like that. Histler piece still for no reason. Yeah, yeah. We go on the 7-Eleven. He's going to seven-eleen to come out of y'all.
Starting point is 00:16:21 You want to snick. I'm like... I do that sometimes, too. I ain't like... Like little candies and shit, little shit right in front of them. Like, I just be like, because you're not paying the shit.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I'm like, I just have to do it. You know, listen. Listen to my part. If I spend a certain amount, not like in fertile, but in a gas station or one bodehy. Yeah. I got it steal something. You see this shit?
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah, but this is in the DNA. I bought three pack of bags, five waters in it. Now I got a, yeah, let me get a, let me get like a Carmack. You come out to gas. This is. Oh, you want to snickers. You want a monster. See, if you still, you know, I just to say that.
Starting point is 00:17:01 You still got it. You know, I got a funny story with ODB. I said it's very long, but I'll tell you. But one night I'm passing, I'm with my wife in the car. I think I had the Green Benz, and it was that Cheetah Club. And I was just driving by and everybody was outside. And I seen, because you guys, had serious beef with all the bounces in every club in New York City.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Like, I mean, y'all was public enemy number one. Y'all was Bin Laden out here. Right, because y'all kept beating up the bounces and all that, right? Like, I don't know what the fuck it was, but I'm driving by, and it's like 20 bounces, cocked diesel dudes, you know, and they got like, ODB kind of hemmed up. And so I'm looking around the whole hip-hop every, I don't want to talk about who super rappers was out there. And everybody was like minding their business. And it was just for a fact, ODB was going to get stretched out.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Because he arguing with them, this, this, that, and they're looking to beat them up. These guys kept beating them up to bouncer. So they finally caught ODB by himself. He was violent. So I told my wife, she was like, yo, that's not your business. I said, yo, I got to pull. I can't actually see it and break out.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Like maybe thank God if I ain't said, I'm out. But I can't see it and not try. So I jump out the car. And, you know, ODB was crazy, rest of peace. So I'm trying to make sense So I'm like, yo, O-D, you know, it's like 20-30 dudes They're looking to pound you out
Starting point is 00:18:38 Like you got to chill. Like, yo, fuck them this. We the boot, this, that. So I kind of like talk them off the cliff. Like, and I'm telling them, you see all these rap nigginsets? They don't give a fuck. They're going to watch you get pounded out. They all out here.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Ain't nobody trying to help you, right? I almost had him. Then he was like, you. No, no, I almost had him. Right? And then he was like, you see that, Joe? The killer bees, they're coming from the, I said, oh, my God. He was hallucinating that the killer bees was coming, like the video, like triumph.
Starting point is 00:19:12 At this one, I knew I said, yo, D.B. I told the bouncer, yo, ODB, don't disrespect this, that. It was like, no, Joe, this. I couldn't do nothing because the man saw hallucinating that the killer bees. You see that? The killer bees are coming. He believed the video, Steve. Steve Rifkin in the house
Starting point is 00:19:31 Loud Records responsible For Wu-Tang Big Pond Mom, D You know, I used to think I was the only One to love Steve I ain't gonna lie to you Right
Starting point is 00:19:43 So, you know, we all gave him a heart He had the wildest guys in the world Right, so we go up to the office Everybody giving him a hard time What happened? You want your flag? Give him the flags. What are we throwing the flags for, A kiss?
Starting point is 00:19:57 Give him the flag No, I thought I was the only one. Is it a flag on the play? No. No, I'm going to tell you why. Because many times in my life, even in the drug game, I would find a connect that I really looked up to and be like, yo, I got you.
Starting point is 00:20:16 You feed me. I'm going to always be loyal to you. So I used to look at Steve changed my life. You understand what I'm saying? He bought my mother's house. He made me move out the projects and bought a house. So you know how generous Steve is. So I used to look at him and be like, damn,
Starting point is 00:20:34 if Steve only knew I'm the most loyal to him. Like I got him like nobody else. But I know he knew I was there. Everybody warned him I was real dangerous when he signed me. So everybody told him, yo, this guy, you got to watch him. This. So he probably had an extra antenna up for me. But I was really looking at him.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Like one day I'll prove to you. I'm loyal. You're going to. And what we did the what? What was it? the 30th anniversary of BET. Remember, and everybody showed up. And every artist he ever had showed up,
Starting point is 00:21:06 free, performed, loved each other, hugged each other. We had hud whoops. That's when I said to myself, man, you ain't the only one that loves Steve Rifkin. Like, everybody loved this man right here. So shout out to Steve, man. You changed all our lives, man. We love you, brother.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And we'll continue to support you. but um you two you know i know y'all got a tour coming up right i know i know that and we're gonna support and we're coming right but i want to get more into like prodigy what was it like being next to peter you how did you ever even meet how did you meet hello yo i'm halve i'm prodigy yeah you know i met him through a mutual friend in high school and shit you know what i mean i got to the high school before him, the high school art and in the hat and, you know what I'm then my junior year.
Starting point is 00:22:00 He came in. So with the audience. It's all right. Nah, yeah. You went down. Just on now, hell and all that shit came out in high school. Before high. I mean, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Kind of like during high school. Kind of like during high school. You know what I'm saying? So I met him and then he came in. And I remember how I went to to WBLS with Molly Maul. He was on the radio. back then and trash brought me up there and shit.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And I said, shout out to trash. I seen this kid in there and I kept looking at him. He looked at me. I'm like, dang. He was at BLS? No, he wasn't. It was this kid. He come to find out,
Starting point is 00:22:36 the nigger went to my school. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, oh shit, you go to one of design, blah, X, Y Z. Making a long story short,
Starting point is 00:22:42 he knew Pete. You know what I'm saying? And that's how we all got together. It's like, you know what I mean? He knew Pete. My man Black, he from the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:22:50 So that's how I started hanging out in the Bronx. But did he fit, When you heard Prodigy for the first time, then he spit, like, was he talking? No, he was not that prodigy. That's why, like, if I, if I wasn't there, if I wasn't there to witness it myself, I would have thought somebody else who wrote P-Rombs.
Starting point is 00:23:07 You know what I'm saying? Because the nigger just switched from juvenile hell and then went into infamous mode. And I saw, I was there. Nobody didn't write it. And I was like, how do fucking do that? I feel like he tricked me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:19 But, you know what I'm saying? He didn't show you all the, all the chambers. Bulls. Yeah, yeah, he showed you all the most. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And he just started going in.
Starting point is 00:23:34 But the interesting part about it to me is this. You know, everybody's saying how great he is and all this at the third. When you up close on something, you really don't know what I'm saying? Like that, you understand what I'm saying? Because I, you know what I'm saying? I thought, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:48 He was just like, okay, you're good. He used to be spitting the rhymes in my ear. know, in the studio and shit like that. And I'm like, oh, shit, you know, that's cool. But now when I think about it and I listen bad to that, I'm like, damn, this nigga was a beast. Oh, man. He was like a animal.
Starting point is 00:24:05 No, he had his own. He wasn't like one. He had his own vocabulary. And he was like nobody else. So it wasn't like he was trying to beat somebody else. He had his own vocabulary. He had his own. You know, I, you know, this time I ride around,
Starting point is 00:24:22 shout out my man, Ritz de Barber. I ride around with Rich, big fans of both of you guys. And we'll just play, like, your album and just say every word for word and just, and then that says a lot about you, right? Because you have to keep up with somebody that we call, you know, the clips came up in and said he changed their lives. He's also doing the production. We know that.
Starting point is 00:24:44 You know, no, no. You've got to be to make a beat. He did the hardest being the word. On the same fucking project with P? That's the triple to work. Yeah. I had a tough fucking job. That's triple, though.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Strip. I was rapping next to Michael Jordan. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? And still had to cook in the kitchen. You know what I mean? It's still lay a verse now. You know what?
Starting point is 00:25:11 All of your shit was hard, though. And murder music, I don't know what you hit some. He gave you, give me some. Oh. He gave you some of that shit. You switched like that. from infamous to murder music your shit's
Starting point is 00:25:26 went up a trampoline them out crazy I'm like fucking half that fuck that I ain't gonna leave me I'm getting we didn't have choices so the game so I come out Flojo
Starting point is 00:25:39 everybody knows fat Joe's in town enough respect for the buggy down and then the tape drop illmatic realizing the realism of life Inactuality, at that point, you knew
Starting point is 00:25:54 you couldn't come with Stomp. That's the idea. Like, you had to step your shit up or you're not going to be involved next year. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:06 Because there's a class of 92, class of 93, class of 94. I knew for a fact, it's over bedtime. I had to go through that, all of that, then it did that.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I'm there like this. Oh, virtually impossible. It's no more doors this beat. No more doors. Yeah, check it out. You know what it is. Your boy, Jada, kiss Joe Cracked at Joe and Jada. This is what we're doing right now.
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Starting point is 00:28:23 and VA. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:28:35 We just contributed to our... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with the name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And...
Starting point is 00:28:52 Oh, we were thinking, I'm... I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:29:15 But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day
Starting point is 00:29:38 and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Listen to humor me with Robert Smygill and friends on the I-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown
Starting point is 00:30:11 and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you give you. It's your podcast. Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than that.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I'm an actor. I'm a comedian. And recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike! I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Cream of chicken suit. Hey, cream. Cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the Mike Coutura Podcast Network available on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. We don't want to take shots because we have such a legendary interview right now. But like with the youth, I feel like unless I don't see what's going on, that's what they miss.
Starting point is 00:32:08 You know what I'm saying? It's more like making music for a moment. Everybody want to catch, get a bag. It ain't like that level of, you know, respect for the art of like what you're going to say. You know, we fucking rockin babies, KRS babies. We fucking L.L.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Kool-J babies. So we had no choice but to just admire what everybody was doing and bring what they bring into the territory. You had to step your shit up. Like I felt like I was really in school. Like I discovered big pun, but big pun taught me. So I used to sit there with him and he'd be disrespecting me. Like, for him being my little brother, he'd be like, you're limited.
Starting point is 00:32:45 You give up easy. Go all the way. 16 means 16. You got 12 hot ones, but you want to give up on the last four. Like, I was at one. in school with this guy. And it was like, and he was sharping me up. So when he passed.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So pun was around you before you, before you got on? No, no, no, no. I was around two albums before pun. I met pun the last day I was handed in my second album. I put him on my album. As soon as I heard him, I was like, oh, no, you met him. Right at that point. I called you, we did firewater.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Me, you, be real. And then something that's so crazy is, like I always tell the story, I did a show with Wu-Tang And they got 500 and I got 500 differences They had 13 dudes So I didn't know I really honestly ain't understand How the math was gonna math
Starting point is 00:33:34 Right And so And then Ray and me become tight out of all Wu-Tang And he's beyond the hottest guy in the fucking globe And I could call him at any time And he show up In 10 minutes to the studio What's up Joe
Starting point is 00:33:49 So I'm like yo this my artist's big pun And did he just joke? And he just jumped on the joint. And that was the first joint that we ever put out with punt. Yeah, because you introduced me to him. You know, he was like, you know, I was coming up there to see you because you said, yo, you wanted me to come through. And I remember that day clear because my little brother, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:34:06 he had graduated and I had bought him a SC 300, the SC 400, you know, back then. And I told him, I said, yo, I said, yo, you got to come up with Bronx. Because, you know, you know what I mean? I ain't know if he really know how to fully drive yet. So it's like when he came, when he came, right? It's like all of us like when he walked to the door, we always like in here and shit. When he walked through, everybody, he's made me.
Starting point is 00:34:31 He's me. He made it. But anyway, Megalongstervee short, you said, yo, I'm going to introduce you to somebody. So I said, what's up? What you want to introduce? So I see this other port of meek and big nink come out of shit. So he was like, yo, he rhymes.
Starting point is 00:34:44 So, you know, I was like, yo, he's like, yo, let me spit for you. He said, yo, you can spit for you. Yeah, let me hear. That nigger said, plunges. He said, boom, bough, boom, bing, ping, bong. I looked at Joe. I said, that's one of them. He said, you got one.
Starting point is 00:34:57 He said, that's one of them. Exactly. I remember that shit clear his day. And it's like, he was like, yo, you mind if he get on this firewater wreck? And I was like, put him on. Say, yo. And ever since then, I think that's when your loyalty level for me,
Starting point is 00:35:12 it grew at an all-time high. First video we threw the suits on. Yeah. Sky blue shitty, pull up. This man never let me down this whole lot. life. Never let me down. I got to salute him for that.
Starting point is 00:35:25 That's another level of, you know, Jada kiss, I'm 20 years waiting on the verse, but it's okay. It's my business partner. But that ain't true because we all got down on the God. That ain't true. I'm fucking with him.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I got a pick on this guy. My lifestyle. John Blaze. Yeah. Shall we go on? John Blaze. We forgot. We got that off.
Starting point is 00:35:49 No, no. I didn't forget. Trust me. But we got that off. That's why I told him. I threw a wise cracker them the other day because he was a baby when we did John Blaze. He came through.
Starting point is 00:35:58 He was like the youngest dude doing it. You know what I'm saying? And that John Blaze, that's when you had to rhyme in the studio type of shit. It wasn't like, since somebody you beat, the shit had come back. It was like you had to show up. That's why I was just about to ask you.
Starting point is 00:36:14 All on 36 chambers and all, everybody had to be there for every session, right? Most of the time I say about least like 90% because you know we was up in Rizzo's basement You know Rizzo had this little hole in the wall spot And it was like almost like
Starting point is 00:36:32 A studio apartment So when you come in The shit was real small And it was like a little stove You know what I mean He had a little chair there Like two chairs Like what the fuck we're gonna do with two chairs
Starting point is 00:36:44 And you know So we're in the room And it's like Everybody's just sitting on the floor or somebody might be standing up. And, yeah, you know, a lot of times it was like, yo, it was like being on the fucking assembly line. You don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Like, yo, now you come through and you throw something in the hell. You say something. But at that time, it was like going back to With Dirty, you know how he was so influential because he's seen something in the group. He's seen something. When they started to formulate this thing called Wutang Clan, it was like, Dirty had a lot to do
Starting point is 00:37:20 with August straight money. You know, that's why I always call him a general too. You know, Rizzo, of course, a general, but, you know, that was the next general, you know, and he was very voistrous. Like, it's almost like you write a bar, you gotta, you gotta come over there and get his approval, you know, and it's like, he's like a coach. Yeah, yeah, but.
Starting point is 00:37:40 He's motivating everybody. Exactly, exactly. And it's like, and it's like the beats, he was, he even knew how to make beats. So he was even in Riz's. See, he starts singing. And that shit on the songs too. Oh, dirty.
Starting point is 00:37:53 He really thought you could see. Next to Rizzen, like, you know. Yeah, they was orchestrating together. There was some sauce in it. Yeah, but you know, but you know before the wool and all that shit, it was the Jizzers, dirty and Rizzo running around doing whatever they was doing. They was called the All in Together now crew.
Starting point is 00:38:11 So they was already, you know, splashing, going, doing battles and all of that. So when they started to form this shit, it was almost like, we knew we had three, three bosses, you know, so, yeah, he might say something, but he don't have to say nothing, but he's saying something. That's the chemistry that they had. So we just had to follow what they march in order as well.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Do I have, was there ever a group that almost happened that we never heard about? Like, was it always just going to be you and prodigy or was you ever going to team up, let's say, with tragedy or this? Was there ever another group? Yeah, I definitely teamed up with a few. cast from from the bridge it just never paned out. It didn't pan out.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Anybody big we know about? Nah, nah. You wouldn't know they names. You know from y'all, rap, nooy was my guy, man. That's my guy. Shout out, the noise.
Starting point is 00:39:07 That's my dog. Yo, the rapper noise. You know, I was, you know, it's certain guys who in crews that when they, when they shit came on and they might have not been the main star,
Starting point is 00:39:22 but, you know, it touched you. Like, it was like, yo, I used to see him. And be like, yo, you're rapping. No, it was something. Like, you know, he used to. They made him a star. They made a show. Yeah, he was, he was a hidden gem, my favorite.
Starting point is 00:39:34 How did you mean? Alchemist, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We met Alchemist through kind of like, you know, we used to go to L.A. when we first started going to L.A., and we hooked up with Mugs, with D.J. Mugs.
Starting point is 00:39:45 So we was chilling with mugs or whatever, whatever. And, you know, Godfather and Liddy and twin and all of them kind of like, you know, used to really befriend mugs. And so AOC was down with mugs. And then that's how they kind of met him ALC first.
Starting point is 00:40:02 So he used to be getting weed from him and shit. You know what I'm saying? Because Al used to live in NYC down in there in Soho. So he used to have a weed. He had to plug for that fire. Yeah, he had to plug for the fire. And he was making beats. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:15 So the chatter was going around. You know what I'm saying? this kid, you know what I'm saying? Alchemis, he over there making a beast. I said, let me see what the fuck this shit about. You know what I'm saying? So I went to Al Cribb and I was like, oh shit, this white chocolate, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:30 This thing is crazy. He got that shit. Where did the other? He had that shit. He's one of them guys, him and Prim, where the fine New York sound, hip hop, but they're not from New York. It's weird when you find out he's from L.A., preem. You wouldn't even knew he knew he was from L.A.
Starting point is 00:40:47 back in those days. Never, ever, ever. Who it? Alginis? Yeah, he wouldn't even to know. I thought he was from up here. See what I'm saying? Wow. So what's crazy is that, you know, and I'm also glad to see... No, Prima from Houston, right? Well? Prima.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Yeah, I knew that. Right. It's another one. He would have never knew. He said his cousins used to bring him tapes, like magic and red alert tapes all the way out to Houston. And he would study the game, and then he finally moved over here. But Alchemist is good to see, I feel
Starting point is 00:41:17 like every now and then some of us we have a moment. He has a moment right now. And so the game is finally recognizing all his contributions to hip hop. And he's doing joints with Freddie Gibbs and now Erica Badu. You know, Erica Badu's straight royalty. You know what I'm saying? The most high in Badu. She's a different level of excellence.
Starting point is 00:41:41 She won the best though. Yeah, I know. She won the super fans. She definitely is super fans. Look, we all know. She's different. But to see Alchemist work with her. And it feels like right now he's the go-to guy.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Absolutely. You want to get hot, go see Alchemist right now. But he put in that work. He did. Definitely did. It wasn't overnight. No. He definitely put that work in.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And then I didn't understand how you and Prodigy come up together and you one of the greatest producers of the whole time. I didn't understand like how their relationship, they start making a lot of music. music together. Like, how did that happen? They just met up and started. I mean, it was natural.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I mean, if you got an... Just hanging around. Yeah, if you got another cat just making tracks, you know what I'm saying? And he's becoming part of the family. It's like, I'm not stingy. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, let's get it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:33 That's a little bit workload off of me. You know what I can start writing some moms and shit. Y'all, I'm going to tell you some crazy shit. We at your wedding. Steve was with us. And we're going towards your wedding. And we was like in a van. with Riza.
Starting point is 00:42:47 And so I asked Rizza because Rizzo is stingy. He didn't want the Wutane with nobody else. So I said, your Rizzo, man, how you let me, you know, how you let Ray be cool me? He said, I'm going to tell you the truth. I ain't really like it at first. Because I'm Wizz, I want it all Boutang, you know what I'm saying? But I knew you and him had a real connection.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Y'all was brothers. And I was like, yeah, yeah, rock out with Fadjo if you want. I was like, yo, I looked at Ritz. I was like, thank you all. You let him rock with me. Because Rizzer definitely wasn't playing that. type of shit, right? He definitely,
Starting point is 00:43:17 he definitely was training us like Doverman's kiss. Y'all. He's beating us a fucking, beating us a washing, washing machine hoses. Bung, stay right here. Boom. But, you know, he had a plan.
Starting point is 00:43:31 You know, he had a plan. And, like you said, yeah, he definitely had selfish ways because at that time, you got to remember, nobody wasn't fucking with Staten Island, niggas. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:43:43 You know what I'm saying? So we had a vengeance. You know what I mean? It's like, yo, come on, we've been partying since we was 14 years old going to the rooftop, going here, going to the quarters, you know, you know, Queens, you know, Chavaga Square. And, yo, Brooklyn and House, Queens and House, Bronx and House, you'd be waiting for Staten Island, and you don't hear it?
Starting point is 00:44:04 It's like, now we want to fight. We came to party, but now we want to fight. You know, so that mentality always stayed with all of us. You know, like, yo, like fuck all the mother burrows. Like y'all think something sweet of it But not really knowing that a lot of niggas That lived in Staten Island too was from Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, Manhattan That they migrated there
Starting point is 00:44:25 You understand what I'm saying? And it's still some real ass niggas that was from there anyway But we had something to prove And I think that was part of his His mystique on how he wanted to approach the game Like, yo, it was just our shit You know what I mean? So at first we was all down with it because we seen the vision.
Starting point is 00:44:45 But then as we got in the game, it started, niggas started throwing flowers at us and, you know, showing us, you know, super love. It's like, yo, I'm a fan too. I like that, nigga. You know, so we come back,
Starting point is 00:44:56 yo, you know what I mean? I could see how his energy would change. And I'm like, to me, it was like, nigga, I'm going to, man. I'm going to go do what I want to do anyway. You know, but I still respect the cold of what it is because at the end of the day, we had a vision, you know?
Starting point is 00:45:11 So that's the kind of, in the same shit that made their locks the locks. You know what I'm saying? We go on the parties. We turned it on video music box. We're doing this. They shouting everybody out. Ralph showed the clip where you on video music box. Don't do it. For this, man.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Did you listen? You know how much we turned on the radio? They shout out Long Island, Staten Island, Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, Mount Vernon, New Rochelle. Skip right over.
Starting point is 00:45:43 right and we right in the middle and we're like all right motherfuckers we're gonna show y'all. And I give you that, you know what I'm saying? And we had no, I had no, there's no Melly Mell, there's no Roxin, no Nause. I'm coming outside seeing one hour way, meagos like that, man.
Starting point is 00:46:02 It was none of that. Heavy D wasn't too far away, Mount Vernon. Mount Vernon, but we can't, even though Havis showed us wild love and D and them took after we got With the riders, he was able to go to Ev's crib and meet him, see him punching the punching bag.
Starting point is 00:46:19 But before that, we got nothing. Not going outside. Punching back? Ev was nice and boxing. No, fuck. I never knew that. Wait. Huff?
Starting point is 00:46:28 For he wanted to catch it fucking flurry and all the type of shit. You know, Hav was like, you know, if we're going to keep it a stack, this whole interview has been really, really 100. He was somebody I really, really, really looked up to my whole life growing up. And, yeah, we was, I was super cool with HeavyD,
Starting point is 00:46:50 but I never told him how much he influenced me. So even now I throw on outfits and I think I'm fly and I look at some old pictures of heavy. He wore that shit 20 years ago. I'd be like, damn, have had that shit on. To me, have made big niggas like us, you're very confident. Have, man.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Yes. He opened a gangway for Big Nick. Yes, definitely. He made it a lane. Yo, niggies, we got, look what I'm doing. Come on it. And so I actually became cool wherever. He used to come to Miami, hang out with us and everything.
Starting point is 00:47:19 But I never told them the truth. Like, I never said, yo, have, you know, you're like my idol. Like, you really, really, really, really, really, really inspired me. You know, and so the first time I'm going to have, we was at tavern on the green. And I'm using a bathroom. Somebody walked in and you got to flow, Joe. You got to. When I turned around, it was heavy.
Starting point is 00:47:43 deep. You almost died. Like, you don't know how much I used to look. I used to do the dance. I used to do the dance moves, like, heavy study the videos, everything. So when I finally met him, because I've seen them many times,
Starting point is 00:47:56 rooftop places for far, like a fan. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, shit, heavy deep. But when I finally got to mix it up with him, I did, you know, HeavyD, he was a special guy, man. But you got Mary, we got DMX.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Us and the next came up together. Mary came before. I know, but I'm just saying. Well, it's somebody before. Your uncle jat over like a fat rat. Shout out to find the race. She lived on her block. But listen.
Starting point is 00:48:24 What? I'm talking about, I didn't see her when I came outside as a blue baby. He wasn't there. I'd be like, oh, fat rat Fonda. It was none of that. It was nothing. Tales in the Crips.
Starting point is 00:48:37 It was fucking, it was none of that. Y'all was in that gas station deep out there, huh? It's way before the. Before the gas station? There's nobody. How y'all all got you? We didn't got it. But Mary was on before y'all, right?
Starting point is 00:48:50 She put y'all on, right? She did. So she wasn't never in the hood? No, she was just getting to the, you know what? She was just getting. She was getting. She was getting. She threw us the alley when she was still on the ladder.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Four one? That's why she said, I don't want. What's the full one? That was just out. But she was still getting right. Like, she said, she pressed us the puff with, I want no find his fee. I want to just make sure my little niggies.
Starting point is 00:49:13 straight. So kind of like that. But me and Pete saw y'all coming. We saw y'all coming because Nas used to whisper in Miami to go, yo, I've got somebody for y'all. Bro. She said, he, he said he got somebody for ball deep. I was like, who the fuck
Starting point is 00:49:31 he got from ball deep? And when they played that shit, I was like, oh, he got somebody for ball deep. They had, for real. They had them young, the young locks voice. Hungry. Young locks. Spitting fire, flay.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I thought I thought Queensville had the best rapists. Until we heard this shit y'all shit inspired though
Starting point is 00:49:53 we was riding around listening to them MOB B, E, F you know I tell us all the time
Starting point is 00:49:59 all that shit made us we had to listen to all of that right one day I'm hanging out with Ray we go to Jimmy's
Starting point is 00:50:07 cafe we go to Harlem I don't know if you remember it was me you and Nas actually we hung out
Starting point is 00:50:12 and Jim Me's Cafe early in the day. We ate some food that we went to Harlem, seeing some theories out there and all that. And then we wind up, we end up going to the tunnel that night, me, you, and Knott. But all day, we was listening to somebody's album. I don't know who it was.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I don't know if it was Mike Geronimo or something, but us three was in the car listening to this album all day. It just came out. And we just vibed to it. And then we went to the tunnel. and you and Naz was acting like y'all didn't know who the dude was that we was listening to his music so i was sitting in with y'all was like yo so i talked him i said yo we've been listening to your album all day your shit is fired be you're sitting in y'all was like yo your shit is fired this and that i forget who it was but dean morn no it wasn't dean morn no i think it was mike geronimo i'm not sure somebody like that had a hot album he was underground he was you know it's Ray Quarnas.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Nass. So crazy, I don't even really remember I might got a little baby dementia going on. No, no, no, you don't. But we had it, but we did it, though. That happened to me.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Was it a royal flush? One of them. It was a royal flus and Mike Geronimo wanted us. We didn't know, though. Huh? It was Geronimo. Yeah, we was Queens.
Starting point is 00:51:34 No, no, it was something like that. It was one of them. It was one of them. And we was just like, yo, guys, like, you know, I was good. Everybody was like, y'all, this shit was hot, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Let's listen to this prodigy story I got. When I'm making the first album, kiss the game goodbye, we got the crib in Miami. Crazy, crazy shit. Gas house, this, that maids. Oh, y'all was doing the break on. This is when you can blow the budgets. This is the budgets.
Starting point is 00:52:04 This thing you can plan to blow the kids and trines off. Yeah. Rifkin era. Steve Rifkin, Ami, I don't even want to tell you. Let's do this album. I'm going to to Miami. I want to do this
Starting point is 00:52:15 and I just. Boom, they gave me the crazy crib in Miami for months. I'm writing the songs in the crib
Starting point is 00:52:22 and I'm going there laying three, five at a time and save studio. Boom, I thought, be there for a month
Starting point is 00:52:31 and two. You get a phone call because we got the house phone in the crib. It's P. I'm like, somebody
Starting point is 00:52:41 fucking prank call in the house, man. Like, nah, what's up? Kess is a prodigy. Me, Pete, what's up? Like, y'all, just went and visited my mom's. She in Florida. Down the criminal come by the crib.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Me, sending the address. Pete, the devil-ranked thing is prodigy. Me, oh, shit, Pete, what up? Everybody, things coming out of their room. Yo, Pete, prodig. Oh, me, chilling. Now, I'm like, we got a chef and all that, so we made sure he ate everything.
Starting point is 00:53:10 He's like, I'm chilling with you. You chill? Yeah, I'm a stay in the night. Me. These are priceless. By the way. It was, it was. That day, hung out when he was now.
Starting point is 00:53:21 This she was like priceless. He was, I don't know if he was, um, going, he was sick. He was over, you know, but he didn't, I couldn't let him smoke. So I was, we would make sure he was good. Him now, I went to think smoke. All right, we were going to make sure he, I didn't get a little wine. You got him for wine. Drank him.
Starting point is 00:53:37 But he's like, you'll kiss. I don't want to smoke, but let me roll him. Me. He wouldn't. I said, Nah, I'm gonna be good Just let me roll this shit Me.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Fuck, if you rolled up a couple We went to the club We had crazy One of them crazy shits Then he stayed like a day or two Then he bounced, though I'm like, yo That was like some
Starting point is 00:53:58 That shit, what was the chances? He fucking called me He said he went to visit his mouths, pulled up, stayed for two days, we partied, we didn't. We fucking make a song that fucking, holy shit me this. But this time was,
Starting point is 00:54:14 that shit was one of the illest shit ever. You get the flip back. Because the thing's with a daughter, dude, them two days we did. Them two days, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:25 That shit was the best on earth, law. No, that was their shit. You know, um, look, Mr. Nest, that's crazy. I'm gonna call him back after. Mr. Ness. He owns is listening to us.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Mr. Ness. To be Instagram. And now the whole phone is listening. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news.
Starting point is 00:54:51 We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 00:55:09 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:55:37 But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and
Starting point is 00:56:12 friends on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Joe Dono. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out help on the internet. Help! Somebody! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, hope from a hypocrite, I'll be changing lives. Helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike! I'm a I'm not qualified to give good advice.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream, cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite,
Starting point is 00:57:05 the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the Mike Coutura podcast network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month,
Starting point is 00:57:30 tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected.
Starting point is 00:57:54 We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network. on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Listen, I got a flag. Could you never believe me when I say shit?
Starting point is 00:58:26 But our family found the turkey chops. Now, it's the turkey chops. Oh, you get another? I found me that portion the turkey chops. Yo, you know, listen, your, tell it. Test move, you put it in the challenge. Test move put it together.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Test move put it together. I've been telling everybody they got turkey chops. They like pork chops, but it's turkey. I ain't had it for years. So when I said that, everybody was like, yeah, yeah, I know what it. Nobody can get it. Nobody can say. Test smooth.
Starting point is 00:59:04 I found. And I don't is he one of the best DJs. He's one of the best clubs for Eddie. He found it. Wow. Yo, Caribbean soul. Where you,
Starting point is 00:59:15 where you, where you're out of Caribbean money earning Mount Vernon? I just told them when we are from. Get that right now.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Yeah, I can't eat on the side so I can get shit on my face and them. Yo, that's that shit. I get sourced.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Yo, but listen, we got to show the camera the turkey shots. I take it. I want to enjoy it. He don't care.
Starting point is 00:59:39 You see what I'm saying? I got a little bit of etiquette. That's a grown man plates Oh shit Oh, that's a grown man's plate They give you out Straightitis
Starting point is 00:59:51 Get a close up You got the fried You got the smothered They got that shit They got the turkey chop with the bone This is the real shit Right No
Starting point is 01:00:04 boss This the real shit Because I ain't going to lie to you a couple of you I think James. Caribbean soul, man. Mount Vernon, man. You know what it is.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Pull up. Get all the way right. James. I tell her they get. Caribbean is soul. You see my sister. My brother Jamesie in the back. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:28 That's right. That's right. Pull up. They cater. They do all events needed. Max cheese. I, too. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Y'all have, man. We still have. I'm out to hit it, make. My bad. I sit there. I have you, this. Because I got to sit down and really relax. He's that, man.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Yeah. That's a real Puerto Rican right there. That's a real, real Puerto Rican Spanish nigga right there, boy. Yo, can I get two, three-dye Pepsi's over here for all this? That's not enough. Let me get 13-dive. You just reminded me, I like that comedian back in the days.
Starting point is 01:01:02 He was like, yo, I fuck with the Puerto Ricans. They said they killed somebody at third floor. They came to Poppy Poppy Poppy. that's not me. I don't know. Oh shit, my back. The H-A-V-O-C is going in. No, there's, no.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Mama, this shit hitting on another level. Wow. This shit's real. God, I know, yeah. No, this shit real. Caribbean soul, babe. And it got paws the bone. That's where she hit me with the...
Starting point is 01:01:35 No. You just can't stop. Can't stop, Wostop. You know, Ghost on this last album He got the skits that Fuck the pause And all like
Starting point is 01:01:46 Supreme clientele too Yeah But listen, y'all going on a tour Did it? When does it start? Tour starting on November All right So listen, when I heard that
Starting point is 01:01:57 I'm like, yo I thought we was going out Rizzen made the announcement But then, you know, y'all got new music coming out So y'all gonna go get a bag Before we go get the other back That's correct
Starting point is 01:02:08 The bag before the other back. The bag before the other back. We got the Emperor's clothes. The name alone is just... The Emperor's new clothes? The Emperor's new clothes, pardon me. Anybody that knows Ray, you know he's just ill. You sit down for a meeting with him,
Starting point is 01:02:26 the meeting turns into three other meetings. Because the way his mind works, he's just always thinking of how to create revenue for the crew and the famine. You know what I mean? Bring ideas to life and all that. So how the emperor's new clothes on Mass Appeal in a roar of mean drops,
Starting point is 01:02:50 incline tail, too, the slick Rick joint. Have, when you come? October 10th. You're on Massapeal 10th. Yes. This is a clip loaded of monstrous, iconic. Seven albums. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Yeah. I mean, so how did this even come about? It happened like real quick, right? Because I was already working on a project And I was trying to figure out how I was going to go about it If I was going to do it indie or I was going to go pitch Like you wanted the role there But then I was talking to this dude that worked up in Massapel
Starting point is 01:03:26 And he told me about what they was doing So you know I'm like wow, legend has it I said yo who's the tools up there So then they started you know mentioning who was there I'm like, damn, those are all my friends. Like, damn, I'm like, I said, it might be smart to, you know, be a part of that juice crew vibe.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And really, we can help each other now. You know what I mean? Where it's like, you know, yo, I want you to win. We all going to win. So the idea of it alone, I don't know. I was just looking at it on some super friend shit. So I ain't even call Nause, you know what I mean? Yo, I kept him out of it, you know?
Starting point is 01:04:04 But I said, yo, the guy that I was talking to, you know what I mean? He was like, yo, I could call Nause's partner. So I said, yo, look, if they could do this, that, this, that, that, say, yo, I'm down. But I said, but here's the catch. It got to happen in 24 hours. You know what I'm saying? So it was like, because I already was getting ready to bust some move.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I had a move in place already. And it was like, I'm getting ready to go like this. But I'm telling them before I go like this, I'm like that. Like, yo, we could pop that off. We're going to pop off. I'm with it. So boom, next thing you know, they met my requirements on what I wanted.
Starting point is 01:04:44 And then me and Nas got on the phone. But the crazy shit is that me and Nas, we always talk all the time anyway. Like we, hey, now and I might get a call from them or we get a call. So we always talk. But we talk about life. We talk about kids and, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:59 You know, his mom's, God bless. His mother, his mom's name is Ann. My mom's name was Ann. His brother named Jabari, my son named Jabari. All this is just happening out of the blue. So we got like a real bond, and especially from back in the early 90s. So, you know, we platonically build him.
Starting point is 01:05:15 But when this happened, it was like, yo, he was, you know, he hit me. He was like, yo, I heard, yo, welcome to the family. I'm like, yo, it's an honor to come over there and rock a roll with y'all. You know what I mean? Because I felt like that, that hoster was a serious hostess. You know what I mean? And then on top of it having my favorite,
Starting point is 01:05:35 you know what I mean? Like, these are all my favorites, but Rick, you know, to me, that's like my big bro right there. You know what I'm saying? Like, we always love a ruler, just style, storytelling, flow, bounce, British nigger,
Starting point is 01:05:52 you know what I mean, wallied up. Or, you know, it was just like, wow, they got a little clip over there. So it just happened. It was just one of those things where it was like, yo, I got a project,
Starting point is 01:06:02 and I love what y'all doing. And one thing, led to the next and it was only popping after that far. Now, how about you? Esco reached out of your work because y'all been connected since connecting, it was connected. Right, right, right. Now, you know
Starting point is 01:06:17 Esco, the brother, like, you know what I know, I know him from fucking preschool. So, you know, so you guys went to preschool. You guys went to... Oh, he's younger. He's younger. No, no, no, we really did. You know each other from the block. That wasn't the same grade, was.
Starting point is 01:06:34 We probably, we was a... We wasn't in the same grade, but after school, you got to go to priest. They're calling you and they call to. I'll see it. You're like a after school thing until your parents get out of work. Yeah, so we was, we knew each other from there. But it was a no-brainer for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying to, I was trying to do the project, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:06:55 the one last sobri, you know what I'm saying, for prodigy. And, you know, Nass gave me the lane real quick. So how hard is it after the fact to? make it sound like a mob deep. How hard was it? Yeah. No, it wasn't hard at all, man. Like, you know, look,
Starting point is 01:07:12 pit owl, you know what I'm saying? ALC got the sounds, I got the sounds, we got the verses. It ain't going to sound nothing but maud, you know what I'm saying? You know who did that really well? Chee is Primo and Guru, that last album they threw out together.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I felt like guru was sitting, and he was almost spitting shit like he had FaceTime. Like, no, no. No, no. that album like there did not sound outdated. The bars sounded like guru was around the corner. You know, that was a really great album that they put together. But the Maude...
Starting point is 01:07:48 I got you off, but that's how this Maudee Bible won't sound. Like, the shit is like, when it come on, this shit is scary. Like, you feel like he hit. Like, you know what I'm saying? And certain little things that he's saying is like, he got this, like, premonition thing going on. You know what I'm going to give too much time? Yeah, no doubt.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Wait, but, you know, it's like that. So, you know, just get ready for some dope shit. You know, when they say, they got a saying, it's like, yo, that ain't age well. You know, lately I've been listening to a lot of Tupac. Yeah. And the man sounds like he's down the block right now. With the shit and the messages and everything you were saying,
Starting point is 01:08:31 it's so relevant to what's going on today. And that's that way that way that way that way, Ray been doing interviews and promo for the new album saying, yeah. They're putting a lot of shit under our own brother that don't even go under our own brother. Like they're crediting, they're calling people hip hop and say, do good music, but it ain't supposed to be over here. And then that gets you the new viewers and the new customers and the new people that want to get into the culture, get misconstrued. because you look at something that they're saying this hip hop album of the year and it shouldn't even be
Starting point is 01:09:10 it shouldn't be in a whole nother. I love. Not the country, kiss, you know, that had a lot to do with the title because, see, it's a Danish folktale about a king. This is, it's called Empress New Clothes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:25 It's a, it's a, um, cartoon type of, um, on folktale. But anyway, it's about a king, right? And the king, you know, he's a fly nigga. He, he loved to get fly. This is what he do. Now,
Starting point is 01:09:38 some scammers, which I call industry snakes, or whatever the case may be, came to his spot and saying, yo, we got some gear for the king. So, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:49 his men, before he get to the king, he got to his men. And, you know, they was like, yo, what you got?
Starting point is 01:09:56 He was like, yo, we got clothes that's going to fuck everything up for this, this shit right here, blah, blah, blah. So they like,
Starting point is 01:10:01 were? So they like, before they went to go to the king, they said, yo, let me see it. Let me try it on. You know what I'm saying? So when they went and seen it now, check it. Y'all, this is where it gets real.
Starting point is 01:10:12 This is where it really gets real. So when they went to go see this shit, niggas is like this, this is it. So whatever's in their hand is nothing. It's nothing in your hand. Nothing. Nothing. No clothes, no nothing.
Starting point is 01:10:25 This is the outfit. This right here is the shit. So now they go back and they start talking amongst each other. saying, well, damn, it ain't nothing in his hand, but we're scared we don't want to fuck around and miss the opportunity to present sign to the king that might be dope. So we're going to say that is some shit. So they came back to the king and then now they told them. And then when they came back, when the king came back and he's seen it, now you're looking at them like, fucking clothes here, man. But y'all saying this is what it is? Yo, this is what it is.
Starting point is 01:11:03 this is what it is. So they sold him into something that wasn't real. So I don't want to go too deep into it. But that's how I feel about the game right now. You know what I mean? Anything that niggas say, we're supposed to just credit it. We're supposed to just co-sign it? Oh, like, seriously?
Starting point is 01:11:19 You know what I'm saying? Like, don't get me wrong. And back to what you were saying about all I was trying to do, not hating on the degeneration that's here today, my thing is just like all of us is man's man niggas. So it's like, if we don't feel that way, you can't sell me that. You know what I mean? And I just feel like a lot of times we get sold on shit
Starting point is 01:11:41 because it's a vanity move for anybody. Yo, I did it first or yo this or whatever. Or putting a lot of shit to be shit that it ain't. It really ain't. Now, now look at it like this. Like in rock music, you see how they separate shit. This is punk rock. This is hardcore metal.
Starting point is 01:12:00 This is this, this is that. But it's all under the. Make it all work. It's all under the thing of rock music. So I just feel like, yo, we be paling shit all up in there and calling it this and calling it that
Starting point is 01:12:12 when they really didn't get that. So if I was to do something, not the culture, if I was to do something that was outside my element, I might as well be outside with no clothes. And allowing, you know, whatever somebody else is dictating to be
Starting point is 01:12:26 what it is when I know that that's not what it is. You know what happened, right? Remember they used to have these seminars, I was in like DC and all that. How can I be down? Shit like that. And I never forget. It's really weird now that I can't say who
Starting point is 01:12:43 because it really don't make no sense. Because it was just really early hate. Well, I had to start saying who. No, I can't say who. He was like a bunch of living legends was on a stage just something like this. And then people could ask some questions after they were talking about. Panel.
Starting point is 01:12:59 And panel. But some girl got up. say, yo, what do you think about the leaders in the new school? This is when them boys was on. Fire, right. Just another case of that. They were the first young
Starting point is 01:13:14 group to have it on Frenka, where they were just like, yo, who is they? Right? And one of the legends of all legends and I, you know, it was like, yo, I don't understand that shit,
Starting point is 01:13:29 that shit, whack, this and this and that. I'm a high. 17 years old, 18, I look, because, you know, we worship these guys and I was like, yo, they hating on the young dudes coming up. And so I always told myself... Never to do that.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I never hate on the young dudes. But some of the shit, the young dudes be doing is out of control right now. No, no, I'm not going there. You're right. I'm not going there, and we got to accept all type of weird shit going on. But look, not to cut you.
Starting point is 01:14:03 off, right? You gotta remember. They ain't come from the shit we come from, right? So it's the same way how our parents, when they was hearing the music that we love. What the fuck is that? They came up one of the OJs and, you know what I mean? Stephanie Mills and this and that or whatever. So I guess in a way, you know what I mean? It's normal for us to be like, yo, we can't really relate all the way. But my thing is just that now it's at an all-time high of a lot of suckers shit going on. Oh. And real niggas. I should be real niggas.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Ain't really being like, yo, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Nah. You know, because I look at our forefathers the same way we sitting here and we're talking about the canes, the this, the ricks, the carers,
Starting point is 01:14:48 or that, you know, they taught us to be this way. This school is supposed to be this way. You know, now it's turning into a different school, you know? And my thing is that do your thing, shout out all a young niggas because one thing about me
Starting point is 01:15:02 I want you to get money man because hip hop saved a lot of lives my nigger you don't know what I mean and we turned the economy up into a whole different stratosphere so get money do what you do get money
Starting point is 01:15:15 but stop calling everything fucking hip hop man you know what I'm saying because everything ain't hip hop you know you might be ill at what your technique is you know what I'm saying but yo
Starting point is 01:15:26 that might not just be hip hop That's not enough to be like, Yo, you get the fucking The shit on your neck. The shit I hate the most. You didn't earn the thing. One of the things I hate the most is I'm a news junkie.
Starting point is 01:15:44 I go to sleep with the news on it. If I'm home, I'm watching the 10, 11 o'clock news. I'm a news junkie. Anyway I go. Like, yes, last night I was in Toronto watching the Toronto news. Am I in VA? I'm watching the VA. I want to see.
Starting point is 01:15:59 if they're killing them dudes in the habit. Like I'm watching, right? And so, um, what's crazy is everybody who either gets killed or kill somebody, they'd be like, rap star. And they'd be like,
Starting point is 01:16:15 Junior X, Rallo Wallo. This one, we don't know who these niggas is. These niggas don't even got a demo. Why everybody got to be hip-hop who's killed or even killed? and what makes you like a rapper?
Starting point is 01:16:31 Like would you cut a demo and all of a sudden the news is saying rapper, rap star? It's like, who are these guys? You understand? And it's like, we always get the brunt of it because I watch it, wherever it's always a rap dude
Starting point is 01:16:46 and then you got to Google them. I think Jay Cole said it best one time. He said, I ain't even nobody. I had to Google him after they were saying on the news hip-hop star. Like, you know, You know, just because you rap or you got a demo or you got a this don't mean you really a rapper. And another thing I got a problem with is everybody's saying they're in the industry.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Like, what industry, bro? If you ain't got no fucking money and you playing Xbox in the couch 30-some years old, what industry? We all had our moments. We all had our learning. And, you know, we all had aunt to Rogers. We all had what we don't want to call groupies. Groupies around us because we hot right now, this and that. Crazy as shit is I go see A. Boogie.
Starting point is 01:17:41 He's performing over here Madison Square Guard. He's trying to come out with him. I come in this green room and there's a dude that used to be with me and punning our green room. Grown ass, man, A. Boogie, a little dude. up in there like he wanted the guys I looked at this dude and I couldn't fucking believe this this guy's a lifelong groupie
Starting point is 01:18:02 yo he got to be John Blaze and then I walk in a boogie shit and the niggas up in there playing Xbox with them acting like I look at this dude I can't believe he spent this whole life
Starting point is 01:18:18 doing this in green room and he's telling his family he's in the industry He ain't in no fucking industry No, I want to know, though Like, why you open up a Pandora's box But you know what it is? The people we allow to be around us sometimes
Starting point is 01:18:40 It's like, they feel engaged Because they know They know niggas So when you feel like you know niggas You feel like you It's like you feel like you got a job with me You know, but you really don't do shit. No, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:55 You just. drinking up my shit and rolling, smoking us, smoking our weed and eating the caterer. You know, doing all of that. But I thought it's a while they feel like they entitled to it. It's an entitlement thing, you know? It's an entitlement thing. And the more you go out, more you start thinking that you are in the industry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Because this is the number one, you know, this thing is the number one game that makes niggis think they got a job. that you're doing absolutely nothing. Can you say that again, brother? This profession we're in, if you let somebody hang around long enough, they'll go to their families, say they're working. They're in the industry, they have a job.
Starting point is 01:19:42 And they're doing absolutely shit if you put a camera on them and followed them for the whole day. And I'm going to try to talk. They're doing nothing, but making plates, taking a seat in the sprinting. I'm trying to talk. It's talking morse code.
Starting point is 01:19:55 I'm trying to talk in morse code. You're fucking up the whole environment. One day I'm looking. They're in their family. I'm working. I'm in the industry. One day I got to do this guy, right, say 20 some or something.
Starting point is 01:20:09 He's making one of the most bogus claims and lawsuits in the world. And, you know, people, you know, you got a weird society now that's feeding into that shit and pumping that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got people who just, And the guy
Starting point is 01:20:25 just on his Instagram because I think he lost the lawsuit or something. He was like, y'all, you know, in this industry, oh my God. If I didn't want to break the fucking phone, this guy who's just a weirdo
Starting point is 01:20:41 suing somebody with the most bogus lawsuit, he's nobody. You understand what I'm saying? Like, absolutely no one. He didn't make a beat, didn't rap, not down with the crew. He just tried to sue a rapper with the most bogus shit you ever heard in the life.
Starting point is 01:20:57 And the man get to talk and he's like, you know, and I'm like, oh, so now if you sue a rapper, you're in the industry? Crazy. That's the industry we're in. That's the industry we're in, huh?
Starting point is 01:21:15 That's the industry. You know this shit, that is. Don't you. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news.
Starting point is 01:21:27 We've created our own. podcast called Hey Jonas We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.
Starting point is 01:21:39 But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers
Starting point is 01:21:56 was... This is how you. You guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
Starting point is 01:22:09 and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app,
Starting point is 01:22:49 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shake my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being,
Starting point is 01:23:17 and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and social. connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 01:23:50 podcast. Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, Help on the internet. Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian.
Starting point is 01:24:03 And recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, hope from a hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Sike! I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice.
Starting point is 01:24:32 One ring is too scary. Cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The tour starts when it kicks off. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:58 What, November 12? November 12. Get your tickets, order tickets. And we know this is the starting of the tour. It should have been started, but it'd be only family and friends is getting family and friends. And I want to plug something else too. I just got a new show on Shade 4-5. It's a surf Sunday.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Starting October 21st, crazy. About time, they got one of us in the buildings. Shit. I need an interview from you. You got it. This is what it is. This is what it is. This is why I try to tell him, right, right?
Starting point is 01:25:35 Because you know our shit number one. Here you go. I know. I know. Not, y'all. This ain't that. Half came in. And he was like, y'all, I made it.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Y'all live. Everybody's telling me this is it, right? Don't get it fucked up. We're number one. Right? And. Yo, I fall on the sword, bro. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:26:03 I'm delusional. I don't give a fuck. I'm full of the sword, yo. It's crazy. What I'm saying to you is, the reason why this works and the reason why I knew it would work is because...
Starting point is 01:26:19 He's going to tell them. Huh? Why do you want to... No, no, no, but this is just normal shit. This is why I'm trying to big him up for his show. There's a reason why. Why we watch Charles Barclay, Shaquille O'Neill, Neal, Kenny Anderson,
Starting point is 01:26:33 because they all champs. They all... Kenny Smith. Kenny Smith. Now, Kenny Anderson, we got the same legs, me and Kenny Smith. Left right. We got the same legs.
Starting point is 01:26:45 But what I'm saying to you is there's a reason they're valid. We want to hear him. Too sure I got a show on XM2. We want to hear the real legends that bitch. So we come up in here and we talk in him. We love hip hop. We embracing the culture.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Q-Tip who never bothers nobody texts me all the time. Yo, I never knew nobody love hip-hop like me. You guys are up there loving hip-hop preserving the culture. This is hip-hop. This is like fucking Caymus wine, bro.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Special shit. And those niggas you talking about it's like they don't fuck with the rules. They keep the rule book right. You know what I mean? It's rules. It's supposed to.
Starting point is 01:27:29 be rules, you know what I mean? And it's like... It's a society of new people that's twisting and bending and shit. Rules, but you know we let that money, you know, millions is being made and, you know, you start to like I said, vanity. That's vanity. That's when it
Starting point is 01:27:47 start to take over your mind and your soul and then next thing you know, before you're doing it, you out there fucking wearing, fucking Louis Sandals with two open toes on. You know what I mean? You know what Because they louis and all this bullshit. So now you think, yo, you can get away with that.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Just little shit. But like I said, at the end of the day, this ain't no assassination, you know, a situation with the younger generation. Because, hey, my thing is, if you wasn't there, I ain't expecting you to know it. You see what I'm saying? You wasn't there. Now, get money, do what you do, but it got to be somewhere where it got to be some, you know, regulation. Rule, like, yo, hold up.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Nah, stop calling that debt. or stop saying this or stop saying that. Because if you really look at it, like every place got their zone, don't get me wrong. Like, yeah, I was living in the South. They get busy. They got their bounce. You know what I mean? You go over here.
Starting point is 01:28:43 You know, you know, West Coast, they got their sound. Yo, salute. You know what I mean? Yo, because that's a part of hip hop as well. You know what I mean? The way they do, they dance. But we ain't trying to do what they do. And they shouldn't be trying to do what we do.
Starting point is 01:28:56 If anything, we compliment each other's shit. but when you start doing weird shit and you know when it get really out of control nobody ain't saying nothing it's like oh I'm down no it's all the way out of control I told him the other day
Starting point is 01:29:12 we were talking about in no particular form but we're talking about look I leave it at that man because these guys nah nah because he's out of control so right now they got the big shit who's rat this one's rat
Starting point is 01:29:28 This one's rat. This one's where my aunt, my cousin, everybody's rat. Now you got one dude who's calling out the 48 laws of rat. Yo, I rat it the most. You guys didn't spend as much time as me. These are the rules. If you don't walk in by 1159 on Monday, you're not a real... I never seen this in the history of hip-hop music.
Starting point is 01:29:53 And this is part of the shit you're talking about. You talk about some other shit, too. I don't want to hurt no feelings. But it's like, I get it. We let a lot of shit slide, man. We let a lot of shit slide on our watch. There should have been reprimanded and just as uncomfortable as it is. We should have spoke up and be like, yo, that ain't there.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Y'all, yo. I'm a journalist. Imper's new close out right now, all platform. New My Deep album coming in October. October 10th. The tour started. November. November.
Starting point is 01:30:31 No bones to Tickets. We got a track? Pumped it fucking up. Who got a chat? Oh shit. Only on Joe and Jay. It's the turkey chop.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Only Joe and Jada. You know how serious this turkey chop is? This shit is up. 52 fake out right here. No doubt. Don't worry, Jay. What's your famples? That's right.
Starting point is 01:31:00 What's up, man? We're talking coming in here with the hood on and he's on. Steve E. You. Yo, rock. Yo, rock. Come here, sis. Rap sit.
Starting point is 01:31:11 When he joined in? Oh. That's how that shit be. That's yourself. We're on the couch. Yo, let's get on the company here and new mob deep. Right here. How you do?
Starting point is 01:31:21 Love you too, sir. Some look at the house, but some listen to this new shrew. Rad. The new. Bigger right there. We're here gone in your chain. You're all right.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Yes. New ball deep. Yes. Please press play. What? Yes. Lay that shit. Turn it up.
Starting point is 01:31:41 There you go. There you go. That's what I need. There you go. A difference, right? New Mar Dee. New Mar deep. Just one crumb on the map.
Starting point is 01:31:59 One crumb ain't a lot. You're happy with that piece. I'm going to need that blind. He's going to find my worst. That's my feet for blood money and power. The fans turn me to a monster. Addicted to when they scream, you had one hit in your life. One second in fame.
Starting point is 01:32:16 One of you niggas jack up, everybody pays. All of you niggins back up, or I'm gonna start to spray. It's the ring around the roly and pocket full of old men. Ashes to ashes. All my falling soldiers reminds me to bring my guns. Bring it back, bring my gun. Bring it back. That's like Ray.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Oh, it's fucking back! Bring it back! Hsu ya! Oh, yeah! Drink away, Willie. Just a hundred dollars. You got, you, bring it back.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Bring it back, huh? Plastic shit. Wow. I got my shit. New mom deep puns a dance song. No mom deep pun to dance songs. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Wow. Wow. Now I can't wait. Just one crumb on the map, one crumb ain't a lot. You happy with that piece, I'm gonna need that pie that satisfy my thirst. Passify my greed for blood, money, and power. The fans turn me to a monster, addicted to when they scream, you had one hit in your life, one second in fame.
Starting point is 01:33:34 One of you niggins act up, everybody pays. All of you niggins back up, or I'm gonna start spraying. It's the ring around the roly and pocket full of old men. Ashes to ashes All my fallen soldiers Reminds me to bring my gun Bring my blade Kills niggins on contact
Starting point is 01:33:52 Just like raid Can't bomb each I'm in my A I'm drinking whack willies This a cool wool dominants We hear some block shit A mini Hugh King Thirty apples the only
Starting point is 01:34:05 It's farm deep against the world Can't beat this It's farm deep against the world You can't beat this I got machines too nigga big one It's small deep against the world That's a ball
Starting point is 01:34:21 Yeah that's cool Yeah that's That's small deep against the world 40s on my knees Some more rockets On this internet I feel to burn this fucking down You won't walk
Starting point is 01:34:34 I'll take you war Shine baby shine Yeah that's what I do You niggins talk a good bun But never follow through So slow down little younger Street is a file of your hole. Filled up with holes.
Starting point is 01:34:48 You're lying, bro. You know the code. I ain't got to tell you keep your service small. That's a giving. Gotta be about your paper, not just partying bitches. The big picture. My shit was sitting in a business picture. Jobson.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Braceless, Joe. Goosebone. Braceless. Gershackle Graceless. All this shit we're talking. From on me. Go.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Go. You. I'm that nigger. My name ring. All over the place. I'm good dear and you not dope. Lide got your spot blown. You're the reason why the cops know what the cops know.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Woo. Niggins drop down. He is not low. Motherfucker mall is by my dog. It's a lot. It's right. It's not on good, nigga. Bitch-ass, niggas.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Don't be friends with somebody else. It's more deep against the world. Fuck. That was fucking safe. Oh, my God. My son. Assistant Rhaps that he sat in for that exclusive. Jesus Christ, when the album come out?
Starting point is 01:35:52 October 10th. Can't wait. Oh, damn, I'm going to have to sneak in the offices and something, man. I got to get my hands. Now, that's shit bothering me right now. That's just so crazy. This shit is bothering me. I ain't got my hands on the whole shit.
Starting point is 01:36:09 It's like you see an episode of Gangs of London and stuff shit. This shit is like, yo, it's like mob land. This shit. Sounds so refreshing. It sounds beautiful. We got the Queen Rap City in the motherfucking building. Came out of nowhere. Pulled up on the guards.
Starting point is 01:36:28 Yo, raps. Oh, and I heard. Your raps, raps, raps. Tell them, tell them, tell them something real quick. Tell them how me and you connected. Tell them where it started. You were in North Carolina. You came down to work with nights.
Starting point is 01:36:42 That was the first time I got to meet you in the street. You got talking to Mike. Oh, I got it. Oh. Yeah, just past that shit over a little, some. Yeah. We got bootleg mics, to be honest. Carolina Bright Lady Studio.
Starting point is 01:36:54 And Ray came down, came to the studio. I was always in the studio, studio, a rat, man. You was on already? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And say you used some records and you just show my love.
Starting point is 01:37:05 You got on the, um, what was the first joint we did? Coconut, uh, coconut, something, coconut oil or something like that. Some worried. Yeah, and bless me. And you've been in my corner ever since. Nah, of course. Of course.
Starting point is 01:37:18 I remember, like, when she was on her rise, you know? Yeah. And I was in North Carolina, and, you know, we was around 9th. And, you know, he was like, yo, I want you the same, same pun type of situation, you know, where it was like, yo, rap's the bird, yo, I never heard of whatever. But he was like, yo, she get busy. You know what I mean? And I wound up doing a record with her down the line.
Starting point is 01:37:40 And, look, you want to talk please. You know, she's from the cloth. So we support her. Yeah, she's funny. Whatever she do. Oh, no. He did the same thing for me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:37:49 Raid, one of them guys that, you know, he's going to support if he believe in you and he think you family and he think you worthy of it. You can't fake him. He's like, he got to believe in you and that's it. You say no more, he's going to pull up. But true, we protect you whether you know it or not because you're from the same cloth. So whenever you throw somebody, you see me repostion. shit, do whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:15 It's like we, you know, people like you, special. So we got to make sure coming from where we come from, we got to make sure we can help you win as much as we can because, you know, you're talking and shit. Everything we're complaining about, you're not. You know what
Starting point is 01:38:31 saying? So it's like everything we're like, yo, the game fucked up, the game you're not. So we got to support you at all course. So it's beautiful. A ninth one that, you know, that guy is Incredible. Shut out this ninth.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Wow. Ninth, no, everything. He knows about graffiti. He'd be hitting me up. Yo! That bubble letters. You know, he know about all that shit, man. But, New Mar Deep in October, they're going on tour.
Starting point is 01:38:59 It's an honor. It's the Joe and Jada. We got to get a segment for you to come in and just talk your shit. You know, y'all. Right now, you just came on on the drive-by. Yes, you just came in for the exclusive list. I mean, I had to come show respect I saw the king's here
Starting point is 01:39:16 I'm able to do what I do because of the doors that you're open I'm just going by every one of you are Nah, but you get busy though You're a writer You're a writer and you You can tell us in your bones You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:39:29 Like, you know, I love the fact That you stay in your lane You know And when I think an artist You know, it's important To still understand that this is poetry you know, and she's definitely really on it like that. You know, like she takes serious,
Starting point is 01:39:48 and that's what I fell in love with it about you is that, yo, she really rhyme. Like, she rhyme and she, like, and she doing exactly what you say. She's staying in the lane. She do what she loved to do. I don't feel like, you know, I'm not against it, but I don't feel like every girl needs to be over-sexualized
Starting point is 01:40:08 and all that. You know what I'm saying? She wants Brahms and beats. That's it. She wants rhymes and beasts. The bars and the soldiers doing all the talking for her. She don't need to, I mean. She's very well-spoken, but you hit it when you press play or she hits the button.
Starting point is 01:40:26 And you know, he got daughters too. So it's like, you know, I just want to tell you thank you for what you bring to the table because, you know, it gives us a little bit of peace knowing that it's conscious. You know what I mean? Artists out there that do what they do, but they're doing it in a way where it's like, yo, we feel proud. Every day.
Starting point is 01:40:48 It should be like, yo, knowledge. Very class. You know what I mean? Knowledge is important, man. And you definitely, you definitely are swardstress. Thank you, my mom. Swartress, you know. And that ain't this.
Starting point is 01:41:01 It's cracking kiss. God damn it. Thanks for noise five guests. Let's go. Love, love. Thank you, having it. Love. You have, let's play that shit one more time.
Starting point is 01:41:14 That's that Mardi. Ooh. That Maldives legend. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick.
Starting point is 01:41:27 And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it out. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it.
Starting point is 01:41:43 But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry.
Starting point is 01:42:37 You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Mark keep coming to you. He's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:42:53 Most people out here think that taking care of one another is important. And most people would step up for a neighbor going through a tough time. Most people around here help out friends and family when they need it. But the funny thing is, most of us won't look for help when we need it. Talk to someone if you're struggling with mental health because most people out here really care. Find more information at loveyourmindtay.org. That's loveyourmindtay.org. Brought to you by the Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council.

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