The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Kamala Harris

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

In the latest episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe welcomes none other than Vice President Kamala Harris for an inspiring conversation filled with historic moments, personal reflections, and big dreams for the future. Vice President Harris opens up about her journey of groundbreaking "firsts," from becoming the first woman, Black, and Asian American U.S. Vice President to being the first female Attorney General of California. She shares memorable stories, including receiving the monumental call from President Biden that changed the trajectory of her career. The two dive into the realities of her day-to-day life, intense schedule, and dedication to staying connected with communities across the country. She also reminisces about her love of music, recounting a bucket list moment when Stevie Wonder sang her happy birthday. With only days left until Election Day, she reflects on the gravity of her role, her vision for the country, and the importance of mobilizing voters. This episode showcases Vice President Harris’s resilience, humor, and commitment to making a lasting impact for future generations. Key issues and policy considerations affecting communities across the country are at the forefront of the conversation. They discuss essential topics, including workers' rights, corporate practices, and historical injustices that have disadvantaged Black communities. From Donald Trump's discriminatory landlord practices, his involvement in the Central Park Five case, and his racially charged birtherism against President Obama, they shift to contemporary issues facing marginalized communities. Vice President Harris speaks candidly about economic disparities, noting her focus on combating inflation, housing, and price gouging while supporting affordable housing and small business initiatives. She emphasizes the need for policies that protect Social Security, ensure accessible healthcare, and address health disparities affecting Black men, particularly in colon and prostate cancer screenings. With Election Day approaching, she stresses the significance of the upcoming choice, advocating for leaders dedicated to working and middle-class families over self-serving interests. Important topics like immigration reform come into focus as the conversation unfolds. Vice President Harris advocates for a secure yet humane immigration system, emphasizing the need for a comprehensive approach that allows individuals to earn their citizenship while effectively addressing border security. This perspective stands in stark contrast to the often divisive rhetoric seen during Trump’s presidency. As the episode progresses, VP Harris critiques current political figures and highlights the urgent need for a new generation of leaders committed to real change, calling out the failures of the past. Don't miss this insightful episode as Vice President Kamala Harris shares her vision for a more inclusive future for America on Club Shay Shay!#volume #Herd #nightcap  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Madam VP, you're a couple of years older to myself, so we kind of grew up in the 80. But I'm only 35. Come on now, I'm your guest. No, but you only 30. I'm going to give you a shovel in a minute. I see, I see. You won't let it go. All my life.

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This episode is brought to you by Call of Duty Black Off 6 The woman that's stopping by For Conversation of the Drink today She's the highest ranking woman In U.S. history She's made a career of being first She's the first woman

To serve as Attorney General African American Asian American descent She's also She's been district attorney Of San Francisco She was the nation's first Indian American senator She's the first woman

First Black Asian American to be elected vice president. She's set the record for the most tie-breaking votes cast by vice president. She's the first black woman, Asian American, and U.S. history to win the presidential nomination of a major party. She's the first HBCU grad, making us proud. She's a Howard University alum.

She's a member of the prestigious Alpha, Alpha, Alpha, Alpha, Sorority. Here she is in person. Madam BP, Kamala Harris. Madam BP, how you doing? Thank you very well, Shannon. How you doing? It is an extreme honor, privilege, and a pleasure

to have you on club, Shea, Shee, CJ, who's the producer here, when we started this journey, Madam BP, four years ago, celebrities, athletes, entertainers, influencers. VPs and presidential hopefuls were on the bingo car. You're here, so I want to thank you very much.

I thank you. When we have guests come on, Madam VP, we like the toast. And what I read on this card, you don't deserve this, you earn this, being the first in so many areas. And you make us proud.

I just want you to know you make us proud for what you've been able to accomplish. And we're 12 days away, and we hope you have an even greater accomplishment. So here's to continue success in everything you're done and everything that you will do. Oh, bless you. And thank you. And to you, Shannon, to you for all the success and the voice you give to so many issues. Thank you for that. And cheers to you.

And I'm not going to actually drink this because I might fall asleep. And I need to do this with Barack Obama this afternoon. We don't want you to follow this way. So here's, here we are. Cheers to everybody. So before we get into the things that you want to do once you become president of the United States, I want to go back. When you found out what President Biden called you and said that he was no longer going to seek re-election.

Yeah. And you got that call. Do you remember where you were and what you thought when you heard him say these words to you? I do. So I was home. It was a Sunday afternoon. And my niece, her husband and their husband. their two young daughters were visiting and staying with us.

And I promised the kids I'd have pancakes and bacon and everything. Okay. And then after that, I had a puzzle for the kids and we were sitting down to do the puzzle. Okay. And the phone rang. Okay. And it was President Biden. And so that's when he told me.

And it was obviously life-changing in so many ways. But, you know, I have to tell you, Shannon, And at that moment, I knew what it would mean, but not in the detail of it, but I certainly understood the seriousness and the gravity of the moment. And actually one of the first people I called was my pastor. Wow. Okay. I knew I needed a moment to just be still.

And for my spirit and my mind to have clarity about the seriousness. of the moment in my role. And I'll never forget that call or that moment or that day. Your life instantaneously changed in that moment. Yes, it is. Because now all of a sudden, you weren't going to be running, you weren't going to be the VP anymore. You're going to be front and center. And you knew what the undertaking, having been four years as the vice president, what that moment would mean. I had a sense of it, you know, like so many of us, you know, when you know, this is your life, right? So there are those moments where your instinct kicks in,

sometimes before your conscious mind and thoughts do. Right. And my instinct kicked in immediately that I need to focus and I need to do certain things immediately, which included making, I think we estimated I made over 100 calls that day. My team, and I'm an incredible team, all came in. And you know, nobody expected, right? It was a Sunday afternoon.

Correct. In fact, we actually joked who had taken a shower that day. Because, you know, people came into their workout clothes. You know, different people and, you know, bandana around the head, just, you know, and came in. And we then for hours and hours well into the night. Did you tell them, did you tell them why you had summoned them to come to your place? Did you give them that news or were you waiting for them to get there to share that news with them? Well, so the news started to, as you can imagine, pretty much.

immediately. And, but, you know, of the many blessings that I have and have had, one of them is an incredible team of people around me. You know what that's like. Yes. Where they're just there. And they will rise to a moment. And no matter how high that moment is, or meaning how serious it is.

And what I love, and it's certainly my own work ethic, that there is no job too small or too big. if there's something that needs to get done. So although you have a huge role now, what's a typical day like for you now once you've been thrust into this? What time are you normally getting to bed, what time are you getting up, and what's some of the activities that you do in a given day? I'm having, I'd probably estimate 14 hour, 15 hour days.

When I wake up, no matter how little sleep or how much sleep I've had, I work out every morning. Okay, okay. You know, you know, it's like mind, body, and spirit, right? And then, you know, and that's the only time of my day I really own. And then it is, these days, it's not unusual for me to be in three or even four cities in one day. Rallies with thousands of people, 10,000 people showing up, making calls to folks, just, now I landed in Atlanta, the mayor of Atlanta, who greets me every single time.

So I'll talk with elected leaders who are supportive about, so for example, here in Atlanta, what do we need to do to make sure that we're giving folks the resources to knock on doors and remind folks of the power of their voice? And 12 days in, it really is a lot about trying to focus on getting folks to know their power, to not let anybody suppress or silence their voice, and to vote. Right. So breakfast, what does Madam VP eat for breakfast or do you have time to or is it on the go? No, I, you know, when I was younger, I didn't think I needed breakfast. I wasn't a breakfast eater. Okay.

Now I have breakfast every morning. It's usually a spinach omit. It's not very exciting. Right. But it's protein with a little vegetable. And, you know, I like chicken, apple sausage and some toast and then I'm gone. Madam BP, you're a couple of years older to myself, so we kind of grew up in the 80. But I'm only 35. Come on now, I'm your guest. No, but you're only 30. But we grew up.

But just keep moving because I'm going to give you a shovel in a minute. I see, I see. You won't let it go. We could have just moved on past that real quick, but you drew attention to it. But we grew up in the 70s with music went and fired. Ohio players. Oh, yes. Fire.

I mean, come on. Oh, you were like, fire? Come on. Okay. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Yes. Yes. What do you listen to now?

Oh, you know, I wish I were listening to more music, to be honest with you. Because I love, it just, um. You don't have downtown? Like, when you have downtime? I don't have any downtown, really. I know my little violin. I'm playing right now with you. I really don't.

But when I love, I love jazz. You know, if it's from Thelonious Monk to Miles Davis, I love Aretha. I was just with Stevie. Right. Steve's, can I tell you? Yes, you can.

Bucket List. Stevie Wonder on my birthday, sang me, Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Can you believe your birthday to me? Oh, my. Can you imagine?

No. I was literally, it was surreal. Can you, a bucket list moment. Right. When Stevie Wonder himself sings you happy birthday. as an 18-year-old. Yeah.

Could you imagine your life would have been like this? Never. Never. Let me tell you, my mother loved, she had every Stevie and every Aretha Franklin record, every album, like literally every one of them. So for, I mean, you know, songs in the Key of Life, like all those, all those Stevie songs that were about everything from the movement to optimism. I would have never at 18 thought that he'd be singing me happy birthday. Ever. Never.

That's the least. I mean, but obviously, everybody knows who Stevie. He was a trial prodigy, 13 years old, and he was doing great things. But to see, Madam VP, what you've been able to do, you've had so many first, the first woman attorney general, African-American, Asian-American descent. You were the DA of San Francisco. You were the first Indian-American U.S. senator. And second black woman ever in the history of the United States Senate elected.

Second in the history of the United States Senate. Have you had an opportunity to sit back and reflect and it's like, wow, but work is not yet done? That's more where I am. The work is not done. The work is not yet done. There's so much to do. I mean, to your point, being in the Senate, so there is a weight of responsibility that I know we all feel, right, when we have been blessed. with an experience that allows us to be a role model and to hopefully inspire people and to remind them of what's important or point out the things that need to be addressed. So, for example, as only the second black woman elected to the United States Senate, I took on a real role of leadership around black maternal mortality, which affects black women and affects their spouses, their husbands, their families, their children. and I feel a sense of responsibility and a very strong duty to make sure that I use my voice and in a way that is about lifting up people who have not always been in the room.

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Check in tomorrow. If you could speak to your 18-year-old self, what would you tell her? If I could speak to my 18-year-old self, I would probably tell her, continue to keep your friends. You know, my best friend from kindergarten is still one of my best friends. What? Yes.

In fact, she's... Y'all made it to the first girl and his best friends? Yes. In fact, she's been out knocking on doors in North Carolina just this last week for me. I would say, you know, hold on to that, which is

your friends are so important. family is so important. I would probably encourage myself at 18 to remember that you have a lot of people who are supporting you even if they don't know you. That's what I mentor a lot of people, Shannon. So this is what I'm really reflecting on, which is what I tell the young people I mentor, including to know that even when you are in that room and you're the only one who looks like you or who has had your life experience to know you are not alone in that room and that you must therefore walk in that room,

chin up shoulders back, knowing we're all there applauding you. When I mentor young women and men, I remind them that you are often going to be told, well, it's not your time, not your turn, you're too young, nobody like you has done this before, and I tell them, you know, don't you ever listen to that?

I like to say I eat no for breakfast. I don't hear no. You ask me what I eat for breakfast? I eat no for breakfast. I don't hear it. Right. And that's part of what are my life lessons that I try to share with young people to remind them that you cannot ever be burdened by other people's limited ability to understand who you are.

Like don't let their limited ability burden you about your own ability. You know? Madam VP, you were raised by a single mom. What did that experience tell you about your mom, and what did it tell you about you? Well, it told me that one of the things that is precious is to build community and family. Okay. Like my mother, she understood that there is a community that she wanted her children. to be raised in.

And she was very intentional and purposeful about that. And so I always say to people, even when I took the stage as the nominee for the Democratic nomination, that, you know, there is the family that you have by birth, and there is also the family you have by love. And they're equally family. Yes. Right? And I learned that from my mother.

So my mother, I had all these aunties and uncles. My uncle Sherman, who was one of the first black men to graduate from. Berkeley School of Law, who when we were young girls, sat us down and taught us how to play chess, because Uncle Sherman said, you need to understand how the chess board works, because that's the way the world works. They're going to be different players with different moves, and you need to see the whole board. My mother raised us around, like my auntie Chris, who went to Howard in the 50s and pledged Alpha Kappa Alpha And she was one of my incredible role models growing up

And that was one of the big reasons I wanted to go to Howard University And pledge Alpha Kappa Alpha Those are some of the lessons that I've learned from my mother And I try to also share with people, right? Which is the beauty of community And it's the way I am, right? Which is, you know, the children in my life, whether they be my own or, you know, my godchildren

or whomever, right? That it's a collective responsibility that we have. Did you know you were different? I mean, were there a lot of people in the community that look like you and like your mom? Or did your mom tell you you were different? Well, my mother taught us to, and everyone in my growing up,

you know, they would tell all of us kids that we were special. Okay. I don't think we were particularly special. But they told us we were, and we believe them. We believe them. I think that's such an important part of what we can all do for the children and the children in our lives.

And, you know, but my mother raised two black girls to be proud black women. Back to music, one of the soundtracks from my childhood was, you know, you are young, gifted in black, you know, and that's what it was. I'll get the phone number later. And we're back America. Your moderators, they got a hankering for call of duty. They're off playing Black Hop Six. Scrap this shit.

What is democracy without feedback? And without some freebies. Here comes some free t-shirts. Three-pointer. You lost your mom to cancer. Yeah. You were very close to your mom because you used. was a single parent, and that was pretty much what you had, although you had a community to help raise you.

Yes. How did you deal, how did you cope with that loss? Grief is difficult. It's difficult. You know, there are two sides to the coin about when you have relationships in your life that touch you deeply. And then to lose that person, it leaves a big void, right? That's the two sides. And I think that part of what I was just talking about this,

but the big part about grief is, especially if you lose somebody to a sickness to an illness, I think it's really important that you try to remember them as they lived and not as they die. Right. Because I think that's how they'd want us to remember them, but also to remember their suffering, which hopefully was a fraction of their time on this earth, is to compound the grief in a way that I think it adds to the pain and what they, want is that their active memory, that our active memory of them is about when they were vibrant and alive. So.

Let's get into things that will change what will happen if you were to become president, say in the next 12 or 13 days. Polls suggest that voters trust President Trump, former President Trump, more on the economy. What can you tell the voters, our viewing audience, our listening audience, that if you were to become president, while, Madam VP, Carmelahires, will be much better on the economy than what President Trump was. Well, so I'm really glad you brought that up, Shannon. So first of all, let's clear up certain myths. Okay. You know those checks that went out?

Yes. Those stimulus? Right. Right. Stimulus check. Yeah, I know. Well, right. Yes.

We got to be for stimulus, but they call them stimulus. Okay. The reason those came about is because there was a Democratic majority in the House of Representatives in Congress. People like Maxine Waters, people like Hakeem Jeffries, right? Yes. Who did the work of pushing to say, people need help right now and we need to send out checks. There was a whole lot of opposition to it, including from Donald Trump's White House.

Yes, even him. I think he was resisted to it at first. Yes. That's why those checks. Remember, Congress holds the purse. Yes. So really, Congress wrote those checks. But then Donald Trump, unlike any president before or after, decided he put his name on those checks.

So therefore people thought. So people thought Donald Trump gave me that check. And so let's clear that up first and foremost. But let's also deal with where he was in terms of his policies on the economy. He gave the biggest tax cuts for billionaires and the biggest corporations, which caused an incredible deficit. He tried to get rid of the Affordable Care Act, which we also call Obamacare. which benefited so many people, including, and in particular, black people in America who otherwise were denied by the insurance companies health coverage because of preexisting conditions. Yes, that's most important. Let the people know.

Right? With an Affordable Care Act, if you have a preexisting condition, insurance companies can no longer deny you coverage. That's exactly right. And if you think about what that means in the context of also knowing the big health disparities we have in the black community. And how more likely, therefore, black folks might be to have preexisting conditions. Love pressure, diabetes, certain cancers. All of that. Yes. Asthma for our children?

Yes. Sickle cell treatment. It's all of that. So by getting rid of the preexisting condition ban what that did. But he wanted to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. What we have done in part of my policies going forward include what we need to do to not only retain the cap that we got, on insulin at $35 a month for seniors. By the way, black folks are 60% more likely to be diagnosed with diabetes.

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I'm glad you raised that. So for example, groceries, yes, the prices are still too high. You know what I know. Part of my plan is to deal with price gouging. I did it when I was Attorney General. do it as president, which is these companies that will jack up the prices of groceries to take advantage of people in need and in particular during a crisis, like what you see around the pandemic or Hurricane Helene.

Yes. Milton, yes. Milton, right? So there's that. In terms of housing, first of all, we know that black families are 40% less likely to own their home. And we can go back to redlining. We can go back to policies.

that were by law or practice meant to not give black folks equal opportunity to home ownership, especially in certain neighborhoods. We can go back to what happened around the GI Bill. And when all those, the great generation we called them came back

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when there was a boost, for it ended up being not for black service members. So part of my policy is to, one, create a fund so that we will give a $25,000 down payment to first-time homeowners to just help people get in the door. We will deal with the rent issue because part of what we're seeing in Atlanta, in places across our country, is these corporations are buying up all these properties, which means then that they don't have to deal with competition. between the properties and they're jacking up rent costs. So it's about also going after that corporate gouging around what they're doing to buy up and then jack up the prices of rent. We also need to help people with small business ownership. I did even before I was running for

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And then to change the tax deduction. So whereas it is now $5,000 to make it $50,000 to start a new business, because nobody can start a new business on $5,000. And the direct benefit when we're looking at black entrepreneurs is profound. And all it is is about saying this, Americans in general, regardless of their race or gender, We have ambition, we have aspirations, we have dreams, but not everyone has access to the opportunity to let some actually accomplish that. I want to increase access to opportunity. Listen, unfortunately, I've gone viral a few times, but I've never gone viral for GLP once for weight loss.

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And there are estimated that 11,000 people turn at least 65 years of age every single day. Yeah. So what are you going to do to do? to make sure because that, you know, people, disability, retirement, survivors with beneficiaries. What are you going to do to make sure that that continues? So, Shannon, to your point, there was an independent economic review of Donald Trump's plan, which shows that Social Security in the next six years would be insolvent under his plan, meaning that it would not be able to pay out what hardworking people who deserve dignity in their retirement deserve.

And as you and I both know, there are a lot of our seniors who their only source of income is that Social Security check. Right? It's the only way they're going to pay the rent or have food on the table. So my plan is about doing what we need to do to put the resources back into Social Security, but also expanding it. Because here's part of the problem with Social Security is that for our aging seniors, if they are a couple, for example, and one of the spouses passes, that cuts their Social Security benefits almost in half. So part of my plan is to reconfigure it so that that surviving spouse does not then have a crisis where they've already lost their loved one. But we also just have to understand on a macro level, we've got to require that billionaires of corporations pay their fair share, right? They can afford to.

And that's part of what is the difference between me and Donald Trump. My plan is about tax cuts for small businesses, for working people, for people, from. middle-class people, 100 million Americans will benefit around tax cuts. My plan is that no taxes will be raised for anybody making less than $400,000 a year. My plan is that we give young parents a $6,000 child tax credit to help them pay for child care for a crib or a car seat. Because you and I both know the vast majority of our young parents have a natural desire to parent their children well, but not always the resources. And back to the way I was raised, I know that the children of the community are the children of the community, that you and I will benefit from that young family having the

resources they need. So it's about all of us benefiting, but it's a state of mind and it's a perspective. Mine is about thinking about the challenges people face and getting them help. Donald Trump is full-time focused on himself. You watch his rallies. He will spend full-time talking about, I was going to say Freddie Kruger, Hannibal Lecter. Might as well be Freddie Krueger. Hannibal Lecter. He'll spend full time talking about his grievances about what everyone has done to him. He'll talk about himself, but he does not talk about the American people. He does not talk about what he's going to do for middle class. He does not talk about what he's going to do for families, for working people. And we're 12

days out. This is probably one of the most serious elections that we have faced and our lifetime. My perspective and I will be the kind of president who spends full-time focused on the needs of the people. That has been my career. I have spent my whole career as a public servant trying to uplift the condition of other people knowing what is possible and doing it with a sense of optimism. On January 20th, a new president is going into the White House. Period. A new president is going into the White House. Do you want to look at the overall? office and see a Donald Trump who's going to be sitting there filling out his enemies list, spending full time figuring out retribution and revenge, or looking at the Oval Office and knowing

you have a president in there who's creating a to-do list, that's about what to do to do to help the American people. So raising minimum age of Social Security, that's not on the table for you. No, no. Here's, look, people work hard. all their lives. And they deserve to be able to retire with dignity. I'll tell you how I come at this.

I come at it from a number of perspectives, including thinking about how I was raised in terms of how you take care of the elders. Right? I think about it in terms of taking care of my mother when she was sick and dying from cancer. So one of my policies, for example, is to help Medicare pay for home health care for seniors.

Why? Because, look, I did it, and it means, you know, trying to cook for an elder to make something they feel like eating, right? To help them put on a sweater. And we have so many people who are in the sandwich generation. They're raising their young kids and taking care of their parents. And either they have to deplete their savings to qualify for Medicaid, right, to be able to help pay for home health care, or they have to quit their job to do the work of taking care. their kids and their parent. And I just believe that's not right, that we should have policies that give people dignity, especially our seniors. So my plan is Medicare pays for home health care. And no, I would not raise the age of eligibility for Social Security because the same thing. We shouldn't force people to work until they're 70 in order to retire and have a moment to just enjoy their life and not worry about how they're going to pay their rent. It's Medicare for all a prior for you? What is a priority for me is making sure that access to health care is a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it. That's why I am in favor of and have pushed and been a leader

on capping the cost of insulin at $35 a month. And why I intend to allow Medicare to actually negotiate against the big pharmaceutical companies to bring down the cost of prescription medication for everybody. That's why I have fought for what we need to do around making sure, Medicare covers senior care. Access to health care should not be a question of how much money you have in your back pocket. That's just not right. And I feel strongly about that.

Blacks for Trump. They feel that Trump is better for the black community. Can you explain that Donald Trump's history with blacks? Where did this come that all of a sudden? I mean, it's been like this because a lot of people used to say I'm Donald Trump or the ghetto. because he would, I mean, for a lot of blacks, not all, but for some blacks, Madam VP, whether we want to admit it or not, he's revered by some blacks. But here's the thing.

The question for everybody, should he be president of the United States? Okay. Right? That's the question. Should he have the ability to sit behind the seal of the president of the United States when he says he wants to terminate the Constitution of the United States? You know what that would mean? in the Constitution of United States

is your Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure. Your Fifth Amendment right. Your Sixth Amendment right to an attorney. Well, a lot of rights are going to be gone. The First Amendment. But the First Amendment, the Second Amendment. Look, I'm in favor of the Second Amendment.

I don't believe we should be taking anybody's guns away. He wants to terminate the Constitution of the United States. He is the same one, like I said earlier, who denied rent to black families who took out that full-page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of those children who birthed-a-risom accusations against the first black president.

Not to mention his, please ask folks to Google Project 2025. He would get rid of the $35 a month cap on insulin. We know how many of our seniors had it. I'll give you another example of why Donald Trump has not earned the support of folks to be president of the United States again. when he was president the last time. During the height of COVID,

during the height of COVID, one in three black Americans knew somebody who died from COVID. You remember those days? I do. And people couldn't get their hands on a COVID test. At that very same time, Donald Trump as president,

secretly sent COVID test to the president of Russia for his personal use. While Americans were dying every day, he has not earned the right to be president of the United States. It's one thing if he has a television show that's very popular, he can put his name on a building, even though we all know he was not a terribly good businessman, which is why he filed for bankruptcy six times. But that is one thing.

To be president of the United States means to try and find common ground, to build consensus, to lift up the American people instead of trying to beat people. down all the time. It means solving problems, which means you have to be able to get out of your own head and scan to be concerned about the well-being of other people and then do something about it. Does anyone think Donald Trump thinks that way? Yeah, well, empathy requires you to divorce your own ego to see yourself as someone else. That's exactly right. That's exactly, and we know that's not his character. So it's about, is this the bright person for that job? Right?

He said immigrants are taking black jobs. I don't know what those black jobs that they're taking. Can you elaborate on that? What the immigrants are taking? What black jobs are they? It's just another example of him trying to divide and him trying to scare people. It's just another example of him doing that. Of him trying to say it's either you or them, right?

And the other thing is that it's incredibly demeaning because, and he still has not been forced to define Donald Trump. What do you define as a black job? Because let me tell you what I define as a black job, Vice President of the United States. That's a good one. Right? It is. I don't know about the pay, but it's a good job to have.

Well, you know, not everybody is Shannon Sharp. No, but you know what I wanted to ask? You've been in basically your adult life. You've been a public servant. Yes, I have. You've been AG. My whole adult life. You've been a DA.

You've been a senator. You've been VP. Is that one? what you envisioned? Is that what you always wanted to be? Was a public servant? I've always wanted to serve. You know, I was

raised, I mean, back to whether you are, however you are raised in the community in which you are raised, including the church in which you are raised, I have always believed that it is an important pursuit to figure out how you can serve. And we can do it in different ways, right? I

chose public service. You chose a different route, but it's about service. And I have always, I mean, I've only had one client my entire life, the people. And what I, and the reason I keep doing it is because I know the difference that I and we can make when we believe in what is possible and then work hard at it. And my pledge in this campaign to everyone, regardless of who you are, where you live, what you look like, I will be a president for all Americans. And I will work to bring our country back together because frankly, I think people are exhausted with the anger, with the hate, with the division, the attempt to have Americans

pointing their fingers at each other. I think people are exhausted. It's not healthy for the productivity of our country. Like, do we want to strive? Do we want to thrive? Or do we want to spend full time with vengeance, demeaning other people, and living a life of services about, I think, the importance of lifting people up, not tearing them down. My team here at ShayShay Media is always growing and making moves.

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How do you get through to those that says, look, this is what I'm going to do. This is what I'm going to do. If I'm elected president, these are the policies and they will lead to meaningful and impactful change. Well, part of it is just to be candid, I think that there's sadly a misinformation out there about who I am and what I've done. Because if people are informed about fact, they will know that almost everything that I'm talking about doing as president is built on a foundation of work that I've been doing for years. if it is about economic empowerment of the black community and all communities. I've been working on that as vice president.

I am responsible for billions of dollars from big banks and big corporations, including technology companies, getting into community banks to increase access to capital for minority owned and other small businesses. If you look at my work over a period of years, my focus, again, on something like maternal mortality is longstanding, which directly impacts black men and black women. Right. And the black family. If you look at the work that I am doing that is about small businesses, you know, the person who helped my mother raise us.

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Can you give us a breakdown of how you will allow blacks and other minorities to access capital? Because you speak a lot about capital. And in order for people to become successful and have some wealth, is that they need to have access to that to get started. So that's, in fact, why I did starting last or earlier this year, my economic opportunity to a way before I was running for president, because I realized that so many of our entrepreneurs don't actually have the, we need to do better in getting information to people about what's available to them. So, for example, through the small business administration, there are funds available to

help people create a business plan. There is resources available to help people just know how that you need to run a payroll, how you need to pay business taxes. Part of my plan, by the way, is to simplify taxes for small businesses. I like to say it's basically, I'm going to date myself, like, you remember the 1040s? Did you ever have to do a 1040s? Probably never. Okay, I did. But, you know, simplifying tax returns for people, including our small businesses. But the work that I have done and will continue to do is about knowing that we don't lack for hard work. We don't lack for good ideas, but we do lack for information about the help that is available. So that's part of how it is going to be about increasing access to capital.

Part of it is about putting more money. So I called up and got in touch with and worked with some of the big CEOs of the biggest corporations in America and said, and the big banks that you all don't necessarily, you're not there in the community where you can get a $100,000 loan to a small business. You guys deal at a different level, but those $100,000 loans for a startup will go a long way.

Let's get those billions of dollars that you've got, put them into community banks who are in the community, who know what the community needs, what they want, what the consumers there want, and then support those small businesses. So that's my approach to actually. access to capital, including making sure that people have, again, simplifying taxes for small businesses. You know why, Shannon? Small businesses can't afford to hire a bunch of accountants

and a bunch of lawyers. But that shouldn't be the reason they fail because they didn't fill out the form properly. Right. Right? Yes. So my approach is really understanding the culture, understanding the needs, and then trying to fix problems. I love fixing problems. I love fixing problems. with common sense solutions. And again, look, Donald Trump has never, he is never going to relate necessarily to the kind of folks that I'm talking about who on the ground just need to be seen and heard

and then let's fix the problems, let's address the challenges to let them not just get by but get ahead. And I want to put a fine point on this. Maybe it's a new perspective, I think it is. I believe that we have had great success in bringing black unemployment down, down to historic lows.

Yes. But for me, that's a floor. For me, that's a floor. Because what I know is that it should be baseline that everybody's working. That's not enough. People want to build wealth. Yes. And intergenerational wealth.

Correct. And I want to help people do that. Right? I know what folks want to be able to take a nice vacation from time to have nice Christmas gifts for their kids under the tree. And it can't just be about, well, you've got a job, applaud me for what I've done for you. Right. And that's the spirit with which I do my work. I saw President Trump on a TV show, and he talked about defunding the Department of Education.

Yes. Basically, we know that's going to affect communities like us that don't have the resources. And then because he says he doesn't, if they talked about slavery, if they taught about slavery, which is a part of our history, It's a that they're trying to cover up. Yes. They're trying to cover up. They're talking about racism. And he said, well, what we would do if they talked about it, they wouldn't get funding.

And we know what communities are going to be most impacted by non-funding. But, and understand that they want to get rid of Department of Education and get rid of Head Start. You know whose kids are in Head Start? They want to, it is, and to your point, and I'm so glad you pointed this out, you know, these are the, same people who basically suggested that enslaved people benefited from slavery. The same people who are trying to ban and are banning books. And again, if we don't teach America's full history, we will never ensure that we don't make the same to do those same things again.

Let's learn from that painful part of our history to make sure we don't repeat it, but by not covering it up. Let's have an open and honest conversation about it. It happened. And the effects of it. Yes. And the present day effects of it. I think we both agree. I think we can all agree on this, that there is a problem with, I don't know how to the correct term. I think it's undocumented. How do we get a hold on that, Madam BP? How do we make sure, because I think I've heard you say you want a path to citizenship, but we want to, you know, make sure people come in and do things properly. Yes, that's exactly right.

So first of all, I have personally prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings. I have prosecuted the Senaloa cartel, okay, the Guadalajara cartel. So I put my record up to anybody in terms of how strongly I feel about having a secure border and making sure that there is not that kind of trafficking into America. I also know that we need to put more resources at the border, which is why I supported a bill that came about, including from the most conservative members of Congress,

to put 1,500 more border agents at the border, to do what we need to do to cut down the flow of fentanyl coming into the United States, which is killing people of every race and background. would more resources would have gone to to prosecuting human trafficking. Donald Trump got word of that bill and he knew it would be a solution to a problem, which is that we have a broken immigration system. He got word of the bill and he told his friends in Congress, don't put it up for a vote.

Don't let it go any further because you see he wants to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem. And it's and is putting out tens of millions of dollars of campaign commercials full time trying to suggest that he cares about strengthening the border when he had an opportunity to participate in a solution, which he killed because he's not about problem solving. It's about a political game for him. My point is we got to strengthen the border and we need to have an immigration system that is fair and humane and strong in terms of making sure that people have to earn citizenship. They have to work hard to get it. My plan, including includes also strengthening what we need to do in terms of illegal entry in between ports of entry,

what we need to do to put more support for border patrol agents, put more technology at the border. But it includes also, you know, I'm never going to talk about people from Haiti eating their pets. And I think that we also know we don't want an immigration system that's about separating children from their parents. We can do it in a humane way. But the bottom line is we can fix these problems. The solutions are at hand. He stands in the way. And in particular on this issue.

If you were to become president, would you ask Congress to bring re-institute that bill and try to get it through? Absolutely. And also, I would work across the aisle with Republicans. There are a lot of Republicans supporting me in this campaign. And I would work with Republicans. to bring this bill back up so I can sign it into law. And I do want to talk about that for a moment. This is not 2016 or 2020 in terms of how people are thinking about Donald Trump.

He was president and the people who worked the most closely with him, Republicans at the highest level, his former chief of staff, his former defense secretaries, his former national security advisor and his former vice president, have collectively said he is dangerous and unfit to be president in the United States. And Shannon, you can just watch his rallies. I mean, did you see that 39 minutes of him swaying back and forth to YMCA?

No, the man, you have to watch, and I encourage everybody who's watching this, watch what he's doing at these rallies. He is increasingly unstable and unfit to be president. according to the people who knew him best. All Republicans, by the way, who I just referred to. Right. Who know he is unfit to be commander and she, he who will talk about service members.

A lot of your listeners and the people who are a fan of your show have served or do serve in the United States military. He talks about military service members as being uncourageous, as being cowards, suckers and losers. This is how the man talks.

And so let's not get distracted by who he was on the apprentice. Let's not get distracted by whatever, you know, building in whatever city and Vegas or wherever has his name on it. Let's look at the job of president of the United States. And is he fit to do that job? And by the people who know him best, including most recently, a four-star Marine General, his former chiefs, of staff. They all say those who know him best. He is unfit and dangerous. The previous administration, your administration that you were in, they got kudos for the student loan relief. Yeah. What's the contingency plan? Because I see it's still trying to grow through

and some of the courts have shot it down. Do you have a contingency plan to continue the student relief? I'm going to keep fighting for it. And yes, because first of all, what I know is that Too many people have been weighed down by their student loan debt. Yes. To the point they question whether they can have a family, whether they can retire at some point, where they could buy a home. So that's why I pushed for what we did around student loan debt. And thankfully, for example, we have billions of dollars in student loan debt reliefs that have gone, for example, to public servants like teachers and nurses and firefighters. But there's more we need to do.

But, you know, if I go into various communities like here in Atlanta and ask people how many people got their student debt relieved, the number of hands that go up and the life-changing experience people have had reminds me of the importance of this fight and I'm going to continue to do it. Have you let people know that President Trump, if you were to get back in the office, he wants to offer police complete immunity? that they can do no wrong, no matter what, how egregious the act may be, they have complete immunity. Do people understand what that means? Do they really understand what that means, Madam VP? I hope so, and I encourage people to go online to see how he says it. I encourage people to go online to see how he talks about a day of violence. Did you ever see the movies? Right.

Understand. And, again, don't take my word for it. Take his. Yeah. Take his. And see where he stands on these issues. I want to get you out of here on this one, Madam BP. You, like myself, attended and graduated from a historically black institution.

Proudly. And it just goes to show you, if you look at myself, Stephen A. Michael, Shrain, three of the most prominent voices in morning television attended and graduated from an HBC. Yourself ascended. the highest of highs graduated from an HBCU. What would you, what message would you like to share with students at all these historically black university and colleges? What would you like, what message would you like to share to them?

Oh, no, your excellence. And no, we are so proud of you. And we want you to have ambition. We applaud your ambition. We want you to know you can do and be anything. And don't ever hear no. and that, no, you stand on broad shoulders, right? Because part of what we know is we have a legacy.

Yeah, we do. And we stand then in that path, knowing that we also have the honor and the duty of excelling in every way possible, being able to see what is possible and not be burdened by other people's limited ability to see the same. One more thing, I think something that's very, very near and dear to your heart is Roby Wade.

I think 50 plus years, I think 72, 73, when it was Roe v. Wade said, hey, women have the right to their bodies. And all of a sudden, the Supreme Court struck it down and says, no, you don't. We have control over that. What would that mean to you? So how do you get that? How do you go back and fight to make sure women still have control of their bodies? So I'm so glad you brought up. Chan, first of all, think about one of the most basic rights that you could imagine.

is the right for you to be able to make decisions about your own body. Correct. Your own body. Your reproductive rights. And the court just took that right away from women to make decisions about their own body and not have their government tell them what to do. And I think an important emphasis for me is you don't have to give up your faith or deeply held beliefs on this subject to agree the government shouldn't be telling her what to do. If she chooses she'll talk with her pastor, her priest, her rabbi, her imam.

but not the government telling her. And we need to fight against us. We need to understand how many women are suffering miscarriage and being denied help because the doctors are afraid they may land up in jail. In Texas, do you know they provide prison for life for doctors or nurses who provide reproductive care? Prison for life, Shannon. In the state of Georgia, a beautiful young woman, a mother of a six-year-old son, died.

because of these Trump abortion bans. The majority of black women and the men who love them live in the South. Do you know in every state in the South except for Virginia there is a Trump abortion ban? Yes, I do. Hopefully everybody else knows that also. Right.

And so we all have to stand, regardless of your gender, regardless of your race, your background. We have to stand and say, look, This is just simply not right, and we cannot stand for the notion that Donald Trump could be president of the United States. He who chose a Supreme Court that would take this right from the women of America and the men who love them. And now we have women suffering to such an extent as they are. I think it's one of the most fundamental rights that's at play. One more thing before you go, Madam BP.

Yes. who's the real H.U? Oh, come on. I'm just asking. I didn't want to know. I don't know. I didn't go to either one, so I just, I just wanted to hear you. You know.

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