The Herd with Colin Cowherd - LeBron James, Clyde Drexler, Cam Newton, Baker Mayfield, Tom Brady

Episode Date: May 28, 2020

Colin explains why LeBron James is the MVP, his thoughts on Clyde Drexler's recent comments, why Cam Newton is still not signed, why this is Baker Mayfield's last chance, and why Patriots fans don't like the new Tom Brady. Guests include Mark Medina, David Shaw, Rob Parker, and Eric Mangini. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we are on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. Joy Taylor and I having fascinating conversations before the show even begins. It has been one of those weeks where I've no idea what day it is. Like it feels like today is Friday. Yesterday felt like it was Thursday. It's... I was in, my wife gets upset last night. Like at 8.30, we jumped into bed to go to bed.

And she doesn't like that. She's like, it just feels like I've been up since six. And it's, I want more day. And I'm like, are you tired? She goes, yeah. And I'm like, let's go to bed. It's okay. I had a great night's sleep.

Women like to decide when everybody goes to bed. Oh, totally. We like to decide that. Oh, my, it's incredible. Like, my wife gets mad at me if I'm, I'm like 8.50. I'm like, you know, I played tennis today. I went for a four-mile walk. I'm going to bed. It's 8.50. And I'm like, and I'm tired. Right. And if we're tired, it's time for everyone to go to bed. That is so true. God, that is. I can't explain it. It's just a thing.

What is it about you women having to dictate when everybody goes to bed? We all have to go to bed at the same time. Folks, this is true, and I don't know why. Let me start with this. Finally, somebody said it. There's something about basketball. those crack me up. Why can't basketball just love what they have? The documentary, we love looking behind, and we're always trying to find the new shiny toy. Why can't we just appreciate LeBron? Why can't we just say, yeah, best player in the world last 15 years,

put our arms around him and like, let's go watch LeBron play? Finally, LeBron's got in his career three MVP's. That's embarrassing. That's embarrassing. Media that covers the NBA, that's embarrassing. Oh, my bad, four. He should have 11. I mean, literally, he left the Eastern Conference,

and the Eastern Conference was man overboard. They're doing receding right now in the NBA. They're considering reseeding the playoffs to eliminate East versus West. They're not doing that because of Yannis. They're not doing that because of Westbrook. They're not doing that. They're doing that, not because of Kawhi. They're doing it because of LeBron James.

Finally, somebody yesterday came out, because everybody thinks Yonis is going to win the MVP. Nice kid, great kid like him. It's not LeBron James. It's nice, 6'11. He's 250, and Kauai Leonard tossed him all over the floor last year in the Eastern Conference playoffs. Finally, Damien Lillard said, just consider everything.

MVP is LeBron. This season, I think, is LeBron. You know, the number one team in the West, they've been consistent all year long, and for him to be at the age he's at with the amount of miles that he has on his body, how often he's talked about, you know, the pressure they put on him in every little thing that he does in the level he's performing that, I feel like, in my opinion, I think he's an MVP. Of course he's the MVP.

For the last six or seven years, the NBA media has tried to convince me his run is over. First, it was KD. KD's not built like LeBron. Katie gets hurt a lot. KD emotionally couldn't handle Draymond Green. Katie's not LeBron. He's just a great player. He's a great player.

scorer. He's probably a great kid. It's not LeBron James physically. He's not LeBron James mentally. I mean, LeBron's handled the Kobe death, deftly. He's handled his ownership mess in Cleveland. He handled the pressure of being the NBA's villain. Occasionally, some people, I don't know why, I don't like what he says. They don't like what he said about China. They don't like what he said about, you know, moving to Miami. Those are just words. actions have been impeccable. And he grew up with all sorts of chaos. He hasn't had a misstep, a physical misstep. Ooh, he said something about China. Really? We're holding that against him. Like he has to have some geopolitical acumen. Our politicians can't get it right. We have to babysit

our president half the time. And we don't like what he said about how he was taking his talents to Miami. That's funny. Cleveland burned his jersey and then begged, please come back. You didn't really care about his words. You're insecure or you're Cleveland. The minute you could have him back, you did. But you told me KD. was going to be. Oh, then it's Kauai. Kauai doesn't play every third game. Kauai is great. But he's not LeBron James. He's not verbal. He's not carrying the league. He's on the second best team in Los Angeles. And then there's Yonis. Yonis is him. Oh, okay. Yonis is. way 60 minutes than a piece.

Janice's playoff record is 17 and 17. That's in the East 500. The Bronx never lost a first round playoff series. Janus is only one two playoff series. Does everybody understand people do not get credit for the disasters they avoid? I've said this about presidents for years and years. A really good president, regardless in my lifetime, avoids disasters.

So you never get credit because you don't. It's like don't start a fire and then call yourself a hero for saving people. The great presidents don't start the fires. So they don't have to pull people out of buildings. The reality is LeBron has made bad ownership in Cleveland, dysfunction in Los Angeles, unbelievable pressure in Miami. He's just made it all work. He just makes it work all the time everywhere.

And Janus doesn't control every game he's in. LeBron does. I mean, if you watch a Laker game, your eyes go to LeBron. I mean, they just, he's got the ball in his hands, the passing, the distributing, the shooting, low, threes, the clock, he's coaching. Yonest doesn't do that. Katie doesn't do that. There's lots of games the Warriors were in that Katie either didn't play, played occasionally,

or didn't dominate. There were games that Clay took over and Steph took over. Kauai, I think he's terrific. But he's left. The Raptors are still number one in the league in defense without Kauai. They're still very good without Kauai. Every team LeBron leaves disintegrates. He left the Eastern Conference.

It disintegrated. like stop give lebron credit for the stuff he avoids if lebron's in the room if lebron's on the team it's going to be okay he's like the really successful dad and he's got all these children under him and some are talented and some are dysfunctional but but but the successful dad comes in and he just kind of cleans all the messes up he just makes it work he makes miami work lebron de wade frankly have similar games. They didn't even really work together. And then Bosch had to change his game for LeBron.

I mean, Chris Bosch was averaging 25 and 10, goes to Miami, and they kind of moved him outside and made him a shooter. LeBron made it work. Four finals, two titles. And he and Dee Wade, they're game, D. Wade's not really, I mean, LeBron's best driving, passing, three-point shooters. It didn't really work. Four finals, two titles.

He made it work. Cleveland. He goes back. Kyrie. Kyrie doesn't get along with anybody. They rolled through coaches, the GMs they rolled through. The owner wasn't perfect. They make it work.

They win. Nobody wins in Cleveland. LeBron works in Cleveland. They go to Los Angeles. For a franchise that was dysfunctional for years. I mean, it was a mess. They couldn't land free agents. They all have all these young kids.

LeBron goes in there. After about a year, boom, boom, boom. Anthony Davis shows up. They're number one in the West. Just you got to give people credit. Too often in society, we crown people heroes for saving messes they created. LeBron just makes everything, lubricates everything, makes it work.

They got the second oldest roster with the Lakers. Nobody thinks they have the world's best management. I mean, think about since he's been there. You had Magic as a president and then Magic left and Magic held an impromptu press conference without telling people and now an agent runs the franchise. and the unspeakably tragic death of Kobe Bryant. They've had multiple trades in the Lonzo ball situation, and Anthony Davis gets hurt.

Kyle Kuzma this year is not happy, and the Lakers are the number one seed in the best road record. And of course, he's the MVP. It's not even close. An NBA media, just put your arms around him. Why don't you give him three straight MVP's to make up for the 11 you've missed on? he's been the most essential, most impressive, most important basketball player in this league for 10 plus years. He's got four MVPs?

If you would have put somebody that just didn't have the emotional stability of LeBron into Cleveland initially, and then into Miami, and then into the Lakers, does everybody understand as great as the Lakers brand was? Before LeBron got there for about five years, it was a mess. It was a mess at ownership, executive level, roster, scouting. It was a mess. Now, most talked about team in the league. For the record, I don't think he'll win MVP. I don't.

It's not the way the NBA media works. He's easily the MVP. But Janus, 17 and 17, great kid, great player. 1717, playoff record in the East, will win it. And there's nothing against Yonis. Put your arms around the guy

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Tommyjohn.com, code heard 25% off sitewide. So for years and years, people think I'm pro-Lebron and anti-Michael Jordan. That's literally what people thought. said, LeBron does more things well than anybody ever. Michael Jordan's probably the greatest player. But I don't think it's a wild, huge gap. I think Michael was cooler. There was more glamour.

His shoes, his apparel sells better. There's a coolness to Michael. There's a willfulness. There's an aggression that LeBron sometimes isn't quite, you know, kind of the killer that Michael is. It's a different generation. I mean, LeBron is more, let's get along. Michael's more old school cigars and, you know, know, bourbons and, you know, LeBron's more wine and let's all get along.

It's a different generation, you know. Warren Buffett always says every generation's got a better quality of life. LeBron's kids are going to grow up even more uniquely than his dad. And so, like, we're all different. Every generation changes. Grandpa, the dad, the son, to brother. It all changes, right? But I do think Michael's probably the best player I've ever seen.

I think LeBron's the second. I think Magic's the third. I don't count centers. Nothing against them, but, you know, kind of a genetic lottery. everything. But it shows you the power of Michael because how many people are still upset about the documentary because Michael was honest. Now, Michael wasn't totally honest. He didn't want Isaiah on the dream team and that's why he wasn't on it. And we still don't know about that pizza thing and that sickness thing. There's a lot of questions about it. But the reality was when it comes

to individual players, he was totally honest. And it drives them nuts because basketball culture in America is fine talent, coddle talent, worship talent, paid talent. They don't hear a lot of They control the GM. They control the fans. They control the coach. It doesn't work that way in the NFL. It doesn't work that way in hockey. Doesn't work that way in the MLS. It doesn't work that way in college or high school sports. Works that way in the NBA. They get used to it. The coddling, the worshiping. You know, every, you make more money on shoes than you actually do the millions you make on your, you know, your contract. And so when somebody points out your flaws, they're not used to it. NBA guys are not used to getting criticized. It's a love fest their entire career. So Clyde Drexler comes out. yesterday. And he now doesn't like the way he's portrayed in the Michael Jordan documentary. Here's Clyde. That's Michael's documentary. Of course, obviously it's going to be from his perspective. And a lot of times, guys didn't like each other from other teams. But as you get older, you got to get beyond all of that and show some love and some respect for the people you play with and against. This is a team game. It's not one guy. I mean, you could have 50 points and

40 rebounds, but if you lose, are you less of a player than anybody on the other team? No. So it's a team game. So I hate when people act like it's an individual competition. I didn't take 35 shots and get 20 free throws a night. So you're not going to score 47 points tonight. Clyde also didn't play defense, you know, much. So now four people who are upset with the documentary, Pippen, Isaiah, Horace Grant, and Clyde Drexler.

They deserve their reputations. Isaiah Thomas, talented, not well-like, can be a phony. That's been the knocking him forever. That's earned. Scotty Pippin, talented but immature. Let's see, the gun charge, wouldn't get surgery, wouldn't go into a game, the DUI. That's deserved. Clyde Drexler, mega-talented, but not nearly as committed as Michael Jordan.

He once got a job at the University of Houston. He would show up at Tip-off. Two years' disaster. He just didn't play much defense. He didn't commit to practice. That was always the knock on Clyde. Hell, he never developed a left hand in his entire career. Head down, right hand, drive to the basket.

Great talent. And I'm told, a great guy. And then there's Horace Grant, a one-time All-Star who always felt he was much better than he was. He was a very nice player. He wasn't a star. He wasn't great. He was really, really good. One All-Star appearance.

None of these are unjustified. That's how they were portrayed. made. Michael didn't bang on Clyde Drexter. He said he was definitely worthy. But when I was compared to him, I took that personally. You should. Michael was way better, more committed, more willful, better defensive player, more clutch player, more all in. None of the, but basketball players don't take heat well. I mean, God, Kevin Durant left Golden State, great owner, great GM, great coach, great roster, great teammate. Because Draymond Green got in his kitchen for five seconds. He left. They're not used to it.

Michael's old school. He's honest about it. He's not always honest. I'm not saying he's the Pope. He's not the beacon of honesty all time. But if you said, if you took modern players today, let's take four modern players. Let's take KD. And 20 years from now, you said, oh, he was talented.

A little bit of a flake. That'd be fair. Westbrook. Oh, my God, great talent. Not a winning basketball player. It would be fair. James Harden. Oh, my God.

time great score. Not sure he's a great teammate. Kyrie Irving. I'm not sure I've ever seen a better finisher under 6'5 in my life. Didn't get along with a lot of people, difficult to play with. Those would all be justified. I said great for all of them first. Clyde was great. Pippin was great.

Horace Grant was good. Isaiah was great. But there's a but after each of them. All of it justified. None of it unfair. I watched this documentary with a completely open mind. I remember so much of it. basically it just reintroduced me to stuff I already knew. I mean, there were some footage I hadn't seen.

There was a funny story about the Chicago Bulls team full of cocaine when Michael walked into the room. But there's not a single thing said here that I thought misrepresented the truth. Even Isaiah Thomas, Barclay didn't like him. Chuck Daly, his own coach, didn't support him. They didn't want him on the dream team. Michael was a better player. Barkley was a better player at the time.

If two great guys don't want a less great guy on a team and you're going for three weeks to travel together, eat together, sleep together, dying together. They don't want you. You're not going. So what? Joy with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. Well, Baker Mayfield hasn't been speaking with the media this offseason after a disappointing second year with the Browns. Yeah. And he said he's going to continue to stay quiet and let his playing do the talking this year instead. What's that what are you saying? I have a different approach to this year. You know, I think it's everybody that has been interviewed in our team has kind of, you know, hit the nail on the head over and over about, you know, it's just time to work. It's time to do our thing instead of talking about it. So this is the first media thing I've done just because there's no need to be talking about it. It's just time to go do it. And right now, it's, you know, kind of moving in silence, which is fine with me. That's how I used to do it before getting on a bigger stage. So I'm happy to get back to those roots. Like I said earlier, get back to the fundamentals to where I can accomplish the goals when the season comes around.

There we go. That'll be a, you don't believe it when I see it, but I like that. He's saying the right stuff. Let's just do the right stuff. He's saying all the right stuff in the off season. Let's just go do the right stuff. I mean, I would love this mentality from the Browns. I always feel like the Browns have this.

And maybe it's not the actual Browns organization or more of Browns fans. I don't know. But it's like this projection of what I'm supposed to believe the Browns are after, years and years and years of the Brown's not being that and no dramatic changes. And then when there are dramatic changes, they're unexplainable, like Freddie Kitchens. And then, and no disrespect to Freddie Kitchens, but like... He wasn't ready to be a head coach. You're giving me Freddie Kitchens and trying to convince me that this is going to work.

And then when I'm doubtful about it, I'm crazy. Like, they had no identity last year. It was all talk. I love this from Baker. Not only is the opposite of what we've seen from Baker publicly, which is what he's talking about. This is what I used to do. of course that's what you do. All the work, all the success that we see on the field is a product of the work that you do when we don't see it.

That's why the whole idea of like these workout videos, which I understand if you're trying to put out a certain public image and trying to change the narrative, I fully understand that. But at the end of the day, that's what you're supposed to be doing. I mean, we joke about all the time like, oh, wow, this girl posted her lunch for the 15th day and we're like, we know you eat lunch. You eat every day. We know these guys work out. That's what they do every day. But just doing it in silence after a year where it was nothing but talk and nothing but... What Baker is basically saying, I've got to grow up.

Baker is acknowledging my number one criticism of him. You're talented enough. You're smart enough. Your arm's good enough. All I ever said with Baker is grow up. It's a billion-dollar franchise. Grow up. And Baker now is acknowledging from his porch, I need to grow up.

I've never said he couldn't play. I never said he couldn't throw. I never said he was a bad human. I said he needed to grow up. He was Johnny Mansell with talent. Now he's acknowledging, I just got to go play, which is exactly what you do. Until you win Super Bowls, then I'm going to give you a little cocky.

I'm going to give you a little. Aaron Rogers has her right to be a little cocky because he is great and he's got a Super Bowl. Dan Marino or an Elway, once you get into the record book, I'll back off on me saying you have to be humble every second of the day. Tom Brady's earned the right to be cocky. occasionally. He's not, but he's earned the right to it.

Well, right. So that's the other thing that I think Baker might be realizing is that there's a game to be played with the media and the public as well. Like, it is fun. I love that he's brash and has this unique personality and he's kind of over the top and, you know, has a little

cockiness to his play. I like that. But there's consequences to that too. Like, I don't care if you do that. It doesn't bother me. It doesn't offend me, but I can't speak for the masses. That's just how I feel. I like. personality. I like having things to talk about. So I like when those things happen. But yeah, if you're going to do that, there's going to be a certain level of expectation because that's how

you're acting. So I like that he's taking this mentality this year. So despite not being able to physically be with any of his new teammates or coaches, Philip Rivers is already showing his veteran leadership on the Colts. T.Y. Hilton said that Rivers has taken control of their virtual meetings and is asking a lot of questions and he feels like he's already gotten to know his new quarterback head coach frank rike also said that rivers has had an impact on the quarterback room by sharing some good insight and opinions on the offense now rivers is familiar with the colts offense because he worked with frank right and the offensive coordinator nick seriani with the charger so he does have some familiarity with their system but this is what i would

expect from philip rivers i i wouldn't expect him and philip rivers has a very outgoing personality very verbal and it's also a very young roster So I honestly think they're probably, they're welcoming it. Like it's a young roster and he's an old dude and he's verbal. Like he should walk in and take things over. I think that's why they, Joy, that's why they brought him in. Sure. They wanted this to happen.

I got to say, it's going to be weird to see him in another uniform. Oh, crazy. And it's going to be weird to see Tom Brady in another uniform, but I think we're all kind of like massaging our way into it with this new personality that Tom's showing. I'll watch both. Oh, I'm going to watch for sure. I'm so interested to see how he does this year, especially since, I mean, I thought he didn't retire.

But it's just going to be weird. It's going to be, and weirdly it's going to be more jarring to see, I think, River's in a new uniform than Tom Brady. Yeah. Because we just saw this coming for a while. Finally, the Lakers were on a roll before the NBA was shut down. Alex Caruso is very hopeful that they will be able to finish the season because the team has been all in on winning the title this year.

The team that we have with L.A. is star-studded and people expect us to be there. And then there's a lot of, uh, There's just a lot of attention to it already that we don't even have to talk about it. Like, we know that's our only purpose. Like, if we don't win it, it's, the season's not what we, like, it's a failure, basically. That's our goal is to win the championship. I just, I just want to see.

Just let's start it back up. Start with the playoffs, NBA. Let's just get it going. God Lord. This is, this is LeBron's last chance. The last dance, this is the last chance. This is an old roster. There's no free agent help.

The draft doesn't give you anything. the cap's coming down. This is LeBron's year. And by the way, it works up perfectly. He gets two months for a little older body. He and Anthony Davis, who's had injuries, to get healthy. I think this is work for the Lakers. I don't know if they'll win it, but it is...

I don't disagree with Caruso here. I mean, I always feel like because I believe in winning championships, that to some degree, if you don't win a championship, your season is a failure. It doesn't mean it was a bad season, but the goal every year for every team should be to win a championship. That's what you play for. Obviously, you want to take steps.

And if you have a young roster, you want to build. But the Lakers are in the championship business. Like, he's absolutely right. And this is a situation with the Lakers, as you mentioned, because they are older. There's a lot of factors every single year the window can change. So I'm with you. I'd like to see the season get started. All right.

Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd line news. One of my favorite young NBA guys is Mark Medina. He covers the NBA for the USA today. Former Warrior Guy, former Laker guy, knows his stuff. Joining us now, brought to you by Mercedes-Benz, the best or nothing via the Coward Global Satellite Network.

All right, let me just out. You talk to NBA players, you know, having covered the Lakers, Mark, and having covered the Warriors, you got the one through 16 idea. You got the World Cup format idea. If you ask the star players of the guys you talk to and said, just how do you want this to start, what would the answer be? Colin, now, first off, it's good to see it and hope you're hanging in there. But, you know, it's hard to say.

I think my conversations with Chris Paul a few weeks ago who oversees the Players Union, the main priority is safety and then, you know, just being able to have the season start up again because of the financial implications, the competitive implications. As far as what guys prefer to have as far as the format, that's why the NBA is going to be having meetings today with the league's GMs and having the board of governors meeting tomorrow. Because I think that when you're looking at this, it's what one person told me is, you know, the best of bad options. Like there are pros and cons with all of these scenarios.

And I might be in the minority here. I know there's a lot of excitement about jumping into the playoffs or having a World Cup format. I think the best scenario is resuming the regular season because these games are going to be really bad. guys are going to be rusty out of shape. And I think that at least buys them time to be able to get into rhythm and reduce the likelihood of injuries. But the other component is the NBA is also way and, you know, is it a good idea to bring all 30 teams to Orlando? So hopefully after Friday there might be some more clarity to that. It's interesting because I think the NBA, I mean, they're not built for a pandemic and extending it because now I hear they're going to start potentially in August.

And I think to myself, they're going to go up against the NFL. they were already struggling with ratings. And then what do they do with next season? Does it end in November and they started Christmas? Wouldn't it be better, though? Like there's a board of governor meeting tomorrow, actually. What is that about tomorrow? I mean, are we getting close to a finalizing a deal?

What are they going to do tomorrow? Yeah. So what I've been told about tomorrow is this is where they're going to elicit everyone's opinion about what the format should be, you know, how many teams, how many games, should it be just the playoff, should there be some sort of play in tournament? There's not going to be, I don't think there's going to be any announcement from the NBA after that of this is what we're doing. I think they're then going to put all their notes together and then huddle up. But at the same time, I don't think that they're going to drag this out, you know, any much longer because the

hope is for them to start resuming the season sometime late July. Because of your point, it goes up against the calendar with a lot of things. And look, they're willing to deal with some of that inconvenience because anything's better than nothing. And in a way, there was always a lot of talk this past season about pushing back the beginning of the season anyway because of the things you said. But they don't want to keep getting into the summer more and more and dragging it out. So even if I don't sense that the NBA is announcing anything definitive on Friday,

I would expect within the next week or two that they'll start detailing plans of when practices are going to resume and then when the season's going to start. So Damian Lillard came out yesterday, and I said this. The NBA has a history, the media of they're looking for the next great thing. First, KD was better than LeBron and then Kauai and Janus. And I'm like, folks, LeBron left the Eastern Conference and it evaporated. Like there's a reason they're thinking about receding. It's LeBron. It's not because Kauai left the Raptors.

I would vote him MVP. I would have voted him MVP. I think at one time I sat down, it was like 11 times. He's got four. Yonis has some better stats. If you had to vote today, who would you vote for and why? I'd vote the same way you're voting. I initially was leaning toward Janus because, look, you had better regular season numbers,

but LeBron's numbers were still pretty good. He led the league and assists. And, you know, there's a lot of extra things that I think LeBron should get credit. it for. He inherited a new coaching staff. There was a lot of role players that just joined the Lakers that may have looked good on paper, but there's always an element of unknown of, you know, how much role players can provide. And I think for the most part, guys have been the best versions of themselves. He's totally elevated Anthony Davis. And look, the Kobe Bryant tragedy has hit everyone around the NBA, but there's no question that obviously impacted the Lakers the most

because of what Kobe meant to the organization. And LeBron played a really integral part and being able to galvanize the team together during those tough times. And I think as a result of that, he should be given credit for not only what he's done on the court, but all those intangibles I just outlined. Mark Medina, NBA writer USA today,

our friend, we're all dealing with this virus and doing stuff wherever we can do stuff. So it's apartments, condos, houses, rooms, anywhere we appreciate him stopping by. So Clyde Drexler is the latest. person to be mad at Michael Jordan for the documentary. Now, you're younger than I am, so I'd like your perspective as somebody who's much younger than me on the documentary, how it landed for you, and all the post-documentary squabbles you've heard.

Oh, I've been amused by now Michael Jordan in 90s basketball, that's what I grew up on. That's what introduced me to the NBA. So when I was watching the documentary, it's not like I learned anything new. I read a lot of books. I watched the games that Michael played over the year. So I knew all these storylines. But what I felt was pretty amusing is that so many decades after the fact, how strong Michael still held some of these grievances about certain players and certain storylines. And it just became almost a running joke where when you would hear you know, Michael tell it on how he took offense to what some coach did or what some player did. The reality is no one had to do anything to get under Michael's skin.

You know, I was particularly amused with the George Carle anecdote where he, you know, did not acknowledge him at a restaurant. I'm pretty convinced that if he did acknowledge him at the restaurant, Michael would have found some source of motivation there. But it's, it was pretty fun to see how that still sticks with him to this day. Yeah. No, he's petty. But there's duality to everything.

There's value in pettiness, and then there's grudges are bad for you. But, you know, I mean, LeBron doesn't feel like that. Or maybe LeBron's just better at not airing his pettiness, you know? And that's the thing. You know what? I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing. Look, these guys are competitors, and it is a grind to be able to sustain that level of competition every single game. You guys saw it, obviously, in that last season with the Bulls.

And so if any time you can. find little sources of motivation to raise the ante up even more. I'm all for it. And, you know, when I was watching the documentary, it's inevitable you're thinking about, you know, what does this mean for LeBron? And look, I think it's indisputable. Michael's obviously a better score and his, you know, intensity was on a whole other level. But, you know, at the same time as you're watching this whole journey, it was clear

that LeBron figured it out a lot sooner than MJ did of, you know, how do you get? get the best out of teammates. How do you make them feel empowered? So I think when, you know, we're talking about all these comparisons, I think LeBron should be giving credit that, you know, there's some things that he figured out sooner than Michael Jordan did. And Michael Jordan figured things out sooner than LeBron James did because the reality of their makeup is different and their style of play is different. Good stuff. Mark Medina. Great talking to you again. One of these days we're going to get you back in our studio, buddy. Good seeing you. Yeah, hopefully so. Good to see you. Hang in there.

All right, good stuff. Yeah, no, that's a good way to put it. There are some things. The advantage for like a Kobe Bryant watching MJ is you can see the mistakes and avoid them, right? Like I talk about this all the time with my friends who are into business. The idea you're inventing anything, you're just what you have is a derivative and then you have your own little edge to it. And you're watching companies and going, oh, I love what they do. I'm going to do some of that.

But then I'm not going to do that because everybody makes mistakes, right? So in my whole media career, I look at the people that I admire and think are great, and I take 3% from that and 8% from that, and I have my own style. Ooh, I'm going to avoid that. That's no good. And, you know, to a large degree, LeBron has taken the great things of Michael. But I'll tell you one thing LeBron did very quick in his career. LeBron figured out really early before a lot of analytic mavens did, the three-point shot matters.

LeBron, in his last couple years in Cleveland, started shooting the three a lot. In fact, he stopped working on his down low game in Cleveland and Miami where it hurt him against Dallas. And then he had to spend an offseason with a chemoilajuan figuring out the low post game. LeBron was way ahead of the curve on that. He saw the NBA moving to the three. This was back the first time in Cleveland. And he started becoming, despite his frame and his body, he said to himself, I can say wear and tear on my life. What adds another dimension to your game too?

Nothing is new. Nothing. Mad Maggie said yesterday, one of the biggest things. he learned from Andy Reid was steal stuff. Put your own personality on it, of course, but it's okay to take bits and pieces from things. It's learning. Yeah.

Coming up next, the NFL keeps telling us what they want from their quarterback, and Cam's not what they want. And I'll explain why I don't understand the misgivings and the misunderstandings of Cam Newton. Why can't get a job? Can't get an interview. That's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd.

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He's swearing. Tom's walked into the wrong house. He got arrested or told to get out of a park. The people in Boston do not like the new Tom Brady. So I've got, this is very funny. So I'm going to get to it. But I want to do this first. An anonymous general manager said this week, anonymous,

because I guess you can't criticize Cam Newton publicly or you get blowback. I don't know why you couldn't just say it. But the quarterback said, the GM said the decline is evident. And there's a lot of confusion on why the market there is none for Cam. Now, I predicted it would be very, very small. Because the NFL's been telling me for years what they want from quarterbacks. So I try to listen. Employers all the time will tell you, this is what we want. Like sportscasters, you can talk politics, but your bosses don't like it. And next contract, it'll work against you. But go for it. You have a right to talk about it. It's not going to hurt you. It will not help you. It will not help you in your next contract, negotiate. I can assure you that. I could give you nine examples, no reason to name names.

The NFL is telling you with one move what they want with quarterbacks. It's Carolina. They took Teddy Bridgewater over camp. Teddy's smaller. Teddy had a worse injury. Teddy doesn't have a huge arm. Teddy's not the athlete.

So instead of trying to figure out this complicated reason why, just look at Carolina. Carolina's former coach, Ron Rivera, traded to get Cam's backup. And Carolina's new coach chose Teddy Bridgewater, who two years ago we would have seen as Cam Newton's backup. Why? Because the NFL's telling you what they want with quarterbacks. Cam's distracted.

They're not into that. Cam's a celebrity. They're not into that. Cam's coachable, but there's drama, I've been told for years. They're not into that. It's not the injury. Teddy Bridgewater's got a worse career injury. Cam's got a bigger arm, a better body, won a lot of games, won an MVP.

Just look at Carolina. The former coach, I'll take his backup. The current coach, I'll take a guy that we think is his backup. Nick Wright was on their show earlier this week, and I think his opinion is shared by many, in the NFL confusion over Cam. It's an unfortunate time as far as given the pandemic. He can't go into work out with teams and they can see that he's healthy. I think another is you've got, I don't know what the number is,

but maybe a quarter to a third of teams in the league that just aren't Cam Newton friendly, so to speak. For some reason or another, there are certain guys who you just say, will they get to be backup quarterbacks and nobody will bat nigh? So I don't get it. I don't think it's just football with Cam. I don't think it's ever been just football with Cam. I still think he's a top, at the very least, top 18 starter in the NFL college.

So that's interesting. He said it's not just football with Cam. That's exactly it. GMs want just football with their quarterbacks. They don't want celebrity. They don't want drama. They don't want fashion. They frankly don't want politics.

But if you're great, they'll deal with it. And think how good Aaron Rogers is. There's a story today that suggests the Packers are going to start integrating Jordan Love into the offense. Like they're telling you what they want in the NFL. They want Teddy Bridgewater. They prefer Teddy Bridgewater with more talent. Kirk Cousins got re-signed. Marcus Mariotta still gets jobs.

Nick Foll still gets jobs. James got a job. James isn't distracted. He just throws too many picks. James isn't a celebrity. you just don't too many picks. Employers tell you this is what we like. Do what they like or start your own company.

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Iheart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. David Sean, a couple of minutes. Stanford football coach. We're going to talk about college football where it's going with one of the really smart guys, the three-time Pac-12 champion, four-time Pac-12 coach of the year. Going to be joining us. So, Joy, you and I have lived in a bunch of places. Yes. And I lived in New England for 10 years. About an hour drive from Boston, about an hour 45 from New York. I prefer New York.

For a lot of reasons, but I prefer New York. Nothing against Boston. But this story reminds me of Boston. A radio host at W.E.E.I. Lou Merlone. I think he's a baseball guy mostly. He says, I don't like the new Tom Brady. This is not working for me. He's putting himself out there.

I don't like it. And this is not working. I watched the match. Here it is. I'm not so sure I like the new Tom Brady. I'm starting to worry about it. You know, he defended him the whole like TB12 supplements. And then the video came out.

I don't know what it was Thursday or Friday. And I was like, oh, Jesus. Like, just enough. He doesn't have like the personality of Peyton. You know what I mean? He doesn't have the personality of Phil Mickelson, joking around, whatever. I'm not so sure putting himself out there is really a good thing. You can match wits with him.

I mean, he's a nice guy, but he's not like, you know, witty. I don't know. Like, I just, I think he should just concentrate on playing football and let us judge him on his football. I'm not so sure it's going to be a good thing. No, Tom's aspirational. You know when Mark Wolberg and Bill Simmons and Dana White and Ben Affleck and Matt Damon got rich when they left Boston?

Because there's a better world out there. Boston's fine, but the old saying is fences make good neighbors in New England. In other words, we do it our way. There's our way. We care about us. It's about us. We don't want to learn new. We don't want to do new.

It's about the way we do it in Boston. That's fine. It's a great city. Intellectual hub, great sports city, politically savvy. But it's a suffocating city if you're into aspirational, bigger things than having a condo up in Portland, Maine to retire in, hanging out in a state with more caribou than people. I like Boston. I thought it was fun.

but it is their DNA is they're not growing a friend of mine met him owned a gym he started a gym in New York and he was worried because New York's got some of the world's best gyms very competitive

but he created a gym it was great and it succeeded very quick within two months he was making money and he thought well this is this is easy I'm going to move one open it up in central Connecticut which is all Bostonians struggled for years.

Why? Because New Yorkers don't care where you're from. If you're good, they like you. If you're great, they love you. They're always looking to grow. New York's an aspirational city. Come on in. Can you elevate the city politically, sports?

Come on in. Boston's not. Boston people, even though the gym was significantly nicer than the surrounding gyms in the area, was there, it was a mile better. They don't want new stuff. We do what we do. We live what we live. We don't need new friends. Fences make good neighbors.

Tom Brady's aspirational. Tom Brady wants something bigger than just what he did. He wants a brand. He marries a supermodel. He wants to, I mean, Tom is just grow, grow, grow, do new stuff, keep young.

That ain't Boston. That's not. That's New York. That's L.A. There's a lot of cities like that. So it doesn't surprise me that there are people in Boston that would be, I don't like the new guy. You don't like new stuff. Like that's not what Boston is. It's heavy, heavy into tradition.

And its tradition in sports is amazing. And its tradition in politics is amazing. And its academic depth is fantastic. But it's a lot of rearview mirror. And Tom is a windshield guy. All right. Speaking of windshield, guys. Okay, David Sean, one minute.

Have you been to Boston at all? I have not been to Boston now. Yeah. When you go to Boston, you can sense it, you can feel it. They don't really need you. It's confusing to drive. The signage isn't great. It's like if you can't figure it out, that's your problem.

New York is complicated as it is, doesn't take you long to figure it out. You can walk up to any New Yorker and say, I'm lost. Now, they'll talk fast. They're in a hurry. They'll give you directions. They want you to be in the city. Oh, go over there. Best bar in town.

Best pizza. Go over there. It's different. Just a different mindset. Different DNA. Brady's a big thinker. Brady's aspirational. He wanted new stuff.

He was tired of the old way of doing stuff. Yeah. Boston's not comfortable with that. Well, I mean, I don't necessarily know this is a new Tom either. It's the Tom that he always wanted to be. It's the time that was. He just wasn't able to do that in the Patriots organization. The system.

Right. David Shaw, 10th year at Stanford four-time coach of the year, three Pack 12 championships. He is joining us via the phone right now. Okay, let me start with this. So the PAC 12 says, okay, June 15th, we're ready to go. I could make an argument, David. They feel some pressure recruiting.

If everybody else is going and the PAC 12 didn't, that could potentially not be great in a competitive environment. Do you feel that June 15th is safe? Are you down with it? Are you okay with that date? Talk to you, Colin. There have been... Does it bother you?

I had a friend the other day, and I was talking to the West Coast, losing many of its top recruits to Clemson, LSU, and other schools. Now, Stanford's different. You guys have always recruited nationally because of your academic standing. So you're kind of in a different boat. When you look at the conference as a whole, I said two months ago, a month ago on the air, I said, I'm only going to make one sports prediction. the SEC is going to play. They're going to be hyper-aggressive. They're going to be like the UFC.

They're going to be like NASCAR. They're going to be hyper-aggressive. Do you worry that if the PAC 12, if there's a second wave, they pull back, that the conference is slipping nationally because it's not seen as a football conference that is as committed to football as other places? You and I could probably do an hour. David Shaw is joining us. When you look at football as a sports,

sport. Basketball with the virus, I look at it and I think they share a ball. They don't wear helmets. They're on top of each other. In football, you can wear gloves. There is some contact, obviously, at the line of scrimmage. But as a sport, can you as a coach make practice as we deal with this virus pre-vaccine? David, can you make it not just safer, but can you have distancing? Does it, is it going to change the way you practice, perhaps? And you can test and minimize the... You know, it's interesting. You, college sports are going through a very interesting situation.

College basketball on the edges, maybe not even the edges, the G-Leaks eating away at it. There is still a feeling in college football that two or three years in college football absolutely benefits the NFL. I always feel like the NFL likes college football and appreciates college football. And I've said that multiple times on the show is I don't feel the NBA. there's not a symmetry with college basketball. It's almost as if both resent each other. You could have gone to the NFL multiple times. You've stayed at Stanford.

Give my audience some sense, because I've talked about this a lot, that college football in the NFL, and I think this is why football's king in America, there does appear to be some harmony. They're rooting for you, and you're rooting for them to take your product and make it even better. What's your relationship now with NFL scouts,

NFL GMs, when they call? I think you're 100% right. there are a lot of Senate, but not all of them can... How good a shape can your players be in? I mean, obviously, if you start June 15th, you'll be fine, but what have you kind of done over the last couple of months? What can they do? I mean, obviously not hit, but what can Stanford do?

What can David Shaw do? Are they working out? It's not to the degree. Getting ready for drag up to these guys to get him up. Great talking to you, coach. Hope things going well for your family. I love having you on the show. Thank you.

Appreciate it, Colin. Take care, man. You bet. Oh, a smart, thoughtful guy, David Shaw, four-time coach of the year, three-pack 12 champions. I could have reversed those as one of them. I wasn't too hard on Boston, by the way, was I? It's a great city, but it is, I would say, paralyzed by its tradition.

Well, I've never been to Boston, so I'm not going to be critical of a place I've never been. But from what I've heard, it's a pretty traditional place. Yeah, not really into. But then also not that traditional. They're very proud of, you know, the Boston way and, you know, having a Sammy Adams and using some, you know, questionable language, which I use too also, but I'm just saying, like, it's the heart of Boston to be very brash and outspoken and unapologetic. Dule, you grew up near there. Am I wrong? No, it's very insular. It's very much like, this is how we do things and we don't really care about other people.

That's how I always felt. Which sounds mean, but I get what you mean about the welcoming. It's a good city to spend a weekend in, but you wouldn't go there for a week like you could New York. Yeah. Like New Yorkers are different. It's just a different. It's just a city that's... Well, New York is a very... It's a melting pot place, too.

Like, there's a lot of people who are from New York, obviously. But you've got to get comfortable with other views of the world if you live in New York. Yeah, it's an international city. It's an international city. Yes. Boston's not. I think that's fair. Yeah, yeah.

It's like, it's in international... L.A., San Francisco, they're international cities. But, I mean, to me, it's confusing that you wouldn't... You'd be not okay with Brady showing his personality. because that's what Boston is, is very outspoken city. Well, as long as it's on their terms. Okay.

Well, yeah. So then that makes sense. It's on their terms, what they're comfortable with. Right. Right. Tom, you know, Tommy is, Tommy's a California guy.

And now he's going down to Florida. He's got a international wife. He's going to have some fun. He's going to do some crazy stuff. He leaves the city the minute the season's over. You know, he's in New York City. He's in Costa Rica. You know, he's having fun.

Tom's a fun guy. It's just new. Boston sucked the fun out of him. I mean, they just sucked the personality out of him. Well, he had no choice. Like, he was the leader of that team. He had to do what Belichick's culture demanded as the leader

of the team. So that's what was required. Yeah. I'm way more fun since I moved to California. My wife even says, she goes, you're so much more social when you live in California. She's like, you got all these friends. Well, it's hard not to be. Well, it's like my wife left for about four days the other day. She went to Chicago.

And I had a, I had a, a, uh, a, a every day I did something. And she's like, you were never like this when I met you. And I said, I lived in Connecticut. That's just not how the city rolls. I grew up in Pittsburgh. It's cold. Most of the year it's gray outside. Like, California's different.

You know, you look outside and see the palm trees. You know it's warm outside. Or like comfortable. You want to go do things. I worked with you in both places. You are way more fun here. Not even close. Yeah.

I mean, I just like you get out to California and people are knocking on and asking you to do stuff and let's try something new. And yeah, I was a downer in Connecticut. I am an upper here. Coming up next, Baker Mayfield. Yeah, I'm going to talk about him for a sec. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app.

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Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross. Because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth. Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust.

I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, is we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Do you remember when Diana Ross

double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on The Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English.

Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table. Thank you for finishing that sentence.

I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, guys? This is Clivert Taylor the Fourth. And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff.

Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me, he goes, Hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Quarterback on office blue with 42. Hey, rec, my mama want you to wave at her. What?

Hey, Ms. Parker. Listen to the Cliverts show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Tonight on FS1, the NASCAR season continues live from Charlotte Motor Speedway, all the action of the NASCAR Cup series, sponsored by Geico, beginning at 7 Eastern on FS1 and the Fox Sports app. By the way, John Goulet bets on NASCAR, his lug nut locks. Are you and Joe Fortinbaugh still doing that? Yeah, we did. We did it yesterday. But then the race got rained out. So John bets NASCAR, like big. What else is there to bet on? Hey, listen, I'm for gamble. I would bet NFL, but they're not playing right now.

So are you doing okay on your betting for? Yes, last week was rough, but yeah, I'm doing okay. So when you bet NASCAR, you just take a driver. You can actually bet, people don't know this, you can bet head-to-heads. You can just bet who, like, these two drivers who finish is better. You can bet on guys to do top three, top five. So who are you betting tonight? I have Martin Truex to finish top three. I have Denny Hamlet finished top five and a bunch of head-to-heads.

I can't remember because I did them yesterday. I'll look it up today. All right. I got a baker's story, but first, Joy Taylor, with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This. is the herd line news.

It's unlikely that LeBron James will add a fifth MVP to his mantle this season, with Janus widely expected to take home the award for the second straight year. But if Damian Lillard had a vote, he says he would give it to LeBron. This season, I think, is LeBron. You know, the number one team in the West, they've been consistent all year long. And for him to be at the age he's at with the amount of miles that he has on his body, how often he's talked about, you know, the pressure they put on him, and every little thing that he does

and the level he's performing that, I feel like, in my opinion, I think he's an MVP. I felt that LeBron was the MVP for most of the season. I understand the argument for Janus. I don't. An incredible season, obviously, and his numbers are

terrific. Better than they were last year when he won MVP. Yeah. But just because Janus' numbers are better than they were last year when he won MVP shouldn't automatically mean that he wins. Well, it's called MVP. MVP.

valuable. Like, what is the MVP? What does it mean to be MVP, right? Are you the most valuable player in the league? But the criteria for it changes every single year. Well, that's because the writers don't know what they're doing. But that, okay, so if that's the case, then you shouldn't be held to the standard that you have to vote Janice because his numbers are better than they were last year. Because if it changes every single year, then there is no set criteria.

We love Chris Broussard. Chris Broussard. I'll argue this forever. He gave Westbrook the MVP because he created a new stat line. No, he didn't create a new stat line. He did something that hadn't been done in like 30 years. Okay, but it's not called the most. Here's something that got done that had never been done in 30 years award.

I don't have a problem. I thought that Russell Westbrook was the MVP that season. Was he the most valuable player in the league? But I'm saying it changes every single year. Not in my household. In my household, are you the most? No, I'm saying the way that it is voted on. It's crazy.

The way that it is presented changes every single year. What it actually is should be pretty clear, but it's not that. And we know that the fatigue of giving it to one player over and over again makes writers kind of force the narrative in a different direction. Carl Malone got crushed because he won it one year over Michael. But I thought, and Michael was the better player. It's not called the most better player award. But Carl Malone had a great year. Charles Barkley had a year.

and Barclay's value to the Sons was more valuable than Michael. I'll argue that. Carl Malone had a couple years. He was a monster. And if you took Malone out of that lineup, they had no scores. It's not the best player. LeBron is the most valuable asset to conference, the game, the ball, the commissioner. Every month's what they're receding.

You can easily give it to LeBron every single year. And you can make the argument. No, I said you could. Yeah. And you can make the argument that Janus is the most valuable. valuable player to his team, right? Like the best player on every team is the most valuable player to his team. You don't have to give it to Janus this year.

And it's not that Janus isn't having an MVP level season. He is. It's just LeBron is the MVP this year. It's not even just the right thing to do. What's wrong? Or the sentimental thing to do. He is. If you look at the entire scope of what his season has been, he is.

We just won. Our show just won, best talk show in the country sports, right? We've won it like three years in a row. Why can't I win at 10? Are you going to give it? to somebody that doesn't work as hard because we've won it too many years. Talker magazine,

thank you. Very kind and just, but we like it. We've won it multiple years in a row. Goulet, should we win it? Yes. But thank you guys. Why do you have to cap it if we won it four years in a row? Your show wouldn't have changed, right? It's not

worse the years you didn't win it. That's my point. We feel this justification to vote people in that aren't LeBron because he's won it so much. Is he the most valuable guy? Then he gets the award again this year. Why do I have to sweat? Marty Grahn never changes. The Grammys are in the same place. Why can't you give the same award? But that's my point, though. Because the narrative for who should win the MVP changes every single year. Why can't it change this year? Like, it's convenient now. Like, oh, well, we have to vote, Yonis, because we voted him last year and he has better numbers. It's like, okay, but the story for how

you get the MVP changes every single year. So why wouldn't it change this year? And it be LeBron's MVP. It should be LeBron's MVP. The numbers are irrelevant. So the Knicks will wait to begin their coaching search until they know their season is over. But when they do start the process, Tom Thibodeau is reportedly their top choice. Thibodeau has a history with the Knicks. He was an assistant there from 96 to 2003. He's been out of the league since January 2019 when he was fired by the Timberwolves. He gets a lot of jobs and doesn't win enough for me. And I know he's a good coach, but he doesn't win enough for me. Well, I want what he, I think he just wears, it seems like he wears players down and wears staffs down. Everywhere he goes, he does that. So why is he getting in our job?

I do. Well, because, you know, in the league, people like familiarity. Okay, so everywhere he goes, I'm cranky today. Everywhere he goes, the same thing is he wears guys out. So he's going to go to New York and suddenly he's going to be a physical therapist, back rubs all the time, everybody's happy. Well, look, I don't really know that there is a right choice for the New York Knicks because I don't think the problem is the head coach. I think the problem is the ownership. So, I mean, do I think that Thibido is a good NBA coach? Sure. Would I like to see the Knicks go in a revolutionary new direction and actually run the organization in a functional way and move into the future?

Yes. Are they going to do that? Probably not. Like Tom Thibito's reputation is great defense grinds guys. Right. They don't like it. It doesn't work. People get tired of it.

And that's also not today's NBA at all. Well, I think players like to be coached. No, no, I think they like to be coached. I don't think they like to be, I don't think they like a grind. The season is already a grind. It is already a long, strenuous thing. If you got fired four times for the same thing, wouldn't you at some point say, I'm going to change things up?

Not if I continue to get hired. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, you keep getting hired. You validate your belief system. Right, I'm doing something right. Finally, Jadavian Clowny has reportedly been looking for big money in his next contract, but that's obviously not the only factor playing into his free agency decision. According to Adam Shepter, the Browns have been financially aggressive with Clowny

and offered him the most money to date, but he has not taken the offer and he seems hesitant to go to Cleveland. He's reportedly seeking north of 20 million per season on a long-term contract. The asking price quickly dropped to reportedly around 17 million, but apparently, currently Cleveland is not on the list of places that he'd like to go play. I actually like Cleveland going after today being Clowny. I don't know if the issue is he just doesn't want to live in Cleveland or he doesn't believe in the organization for a long-term deal, which could be understandable from his perspective, obviously, as well.

The Browns have not shown any sort of consistency when it comes to that. But adding a player like Deavian Clowny, a veteran, obviously he has, you know, we know he has injury issues and whatever. Well, he can, there are, he's not consistent enough for me, but he makes splash plays. He made a couple huge plays for the Seahawks late in the season that were like game-changing plays. Yes, he's a disruptor. Yeah. So I don't mind Cleveland going after him.

But I see both sides of this like very easily because if he wants a long-term deal and he doesn't trust Cleveland's ownership or, you know, the stability of the franchise. And that's not a great place for him to go. Yeah. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. So Baker Mayfield says, new me, not cocky, not talking.

People think I don't like Baker Mayfield. I have problems with some of his personality traits. But he came out now. It appears to be more mature. Here we go. I have a different approach to this year. You know, I think everybody that has been interviewed in our team has kind of, you know, hit the nail on the head over and over about, you know, it's just time to work. It's time to do our thing instead of talking.

about it. So this is the first media thing I've done, just because there's no need to be talking about it. It's just time to go do it. And right now, it's, you know, kind of moving in silence, which is fun with me. That's how I used to do it before getting on a bigger stage. So I'm happy to get back to those roots. Like I said earlier, get back to the fundamentals to where I can accomplish the goals when the season comes around. He's always welcome back on the set. I am predicting he's going to have a very good year, not an MVP year, but a very good year. I'm predicting that Baker Mayfield makes the playoffs. Let me state that.

I think he's going to make the playoffs. I'm picking Cleveland over Pittsburgh. Check my temperature, but I am. I think their offense is stacked, and I think their defense is good, and they have a real coach. But there's an old saying in our business in the media. You're gone before you know you're gone.

If you take out the four games against the Cincinnati Bengals, Baker Mayfield's a bust. If you take out the four games against Cincinnati, the worst defense in the NFL last year, and two years ago, the worst defense in league history, Baker Mayfield is 9 and 16 as a starter with a passer rating at 84, completion percentage at 61, 39 touchdowns, 30 picks as a number one pick with all sorts of talent around him.

He is a bust. But he's going to get another year. But he better know he's on the clock because Mitch Tribisky is about to be replaced. And Mitch Tribisky has a 19 and 10 record. He wins two out of three starts. Mitch Trubisky, everybody loves him. even the coaches that are going to replace him, love him. They feel guilty.

They apologize when they yell at him. He doesn't have any videos that are bad. Mitch Trubisky is getting replaced, and he wins. Baker Mayfield's 9 and 16 take out the Bengals. He's getting replaced two if he doesn't win. I think he will, and I think he's fine. But if Sam Darnold struggles, he will retain his job because there's been no missteps off the field and Gase will be fired.

Marcus Mariotta never improved. His third year, he couldn't stay healthy, he was nonverbal, he didn't get better, and his third year in Tennessee he had 13 touchdowns and 15 picks, and they still supported him in year four. Baker Mayfield's got Kevin Stavansky. Kevin Stavansky got to the playoffs with Gus Ferrat, Tavaris Jackson, Christian Ponder, Case Keenham, Kirk Cousins, and Teddy B. He will not stand

for Baker Mayfield unraveling. This guy got Christian pondered to the playoffs. He's not going to wait a second for Baker Mayfield to grow up. Not a second. Josh Allen struggles this year. He made the playoffs. He'll be back. Sam Darnold struggles. Good kid.

Didn't have much help. He'll be back. This is Baker's year to shine. Trabisky's getting moved out of Chicago. and he wins. He wins. And he's a great kid. And he hasn't called out the medical staff. And people feel guilty. The saying in my business is the saying in the NFL,

you are gone before you know or have been told you're gone. Baker wins this year or it's over. I'm predicting he will. But I think what he's saying, he senses the urgency. Like he knows it. He's burned bridges. Like he sees Trabisky. He's smart.

Baker's smart. He knows I got to be quiet and win. Because this new staff got Christian Pontner to the playoffs. They ain't waiting for me to get my act together. All I know is Rob Parker's next. And when Rob Parker's on the show, he's nuts and he's joining us and he's next. It's the herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending. Opinions are flying. And nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise.

Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports slice brings you closer to the action. with stories told by the people who live them.

Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife-Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit.

suit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing and we're still chasing it and we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve

Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth or are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me. Kier Gains is we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now.

Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.

We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, guys?

This is Clever Taylor the Fourth. And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me. A, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Time out.

Quarterback on office blue of 42. Hey, rep, my mama want you to wave at her. What? Where's she at? Hey, Ms. Parker. Listen to the Clifford show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Rob Parker hosts a radio show with Chris Brous Sard.

It's called The Odd Couple. I believe it's the fastest growing sports. Talk Radio Show in the country. Very sticky, as they call it. Very funny. At Fox Sports 1, we're giving him a new nickname today. I've never done this. Change the guy's nickname on the air. He works at USC as an adjunct professor. The new nickname is the professor for Rob Parker. So we're just going to call him the professor? He is the professor now. Let's bring in, I'm not saying he's not loony. Some professors can be loony. He's Rob Parker joining us via the Howard Global Satellite Network.

So how does that sit with you, the professor? Do you like that? I'll take that. Yes. And my students at USC, they will love it as well. You know what, Colin, I love teaching. You know, I brought my class in. You met with them.

Yeah. They loved it. They loved it. There's so many smart, young, energetic, bright minds out there. So I love teaching at USC. Let's start with this. You are a die-hard baseball fan. You're on my HARD podcast.

Baseball, I think they got to get on this thing. You can't have your season all into football season. Do you have hope they're going to get this thing right soon, Rob? I do have hope. I know sometimes, you know, when there's negotiations, it doesn't look good, you know, or it doesn't sound good. But, Colin, baseball cannot afford to go 18 months without a season. It just would be ridiculous. First of all, there's too much money on the table, television-wise.

And it can only hurt the players as they go into next year looking for a new CBA if there's no baseball and the owners don't make any money. Here's the other thing. America needs baseball. America has always Colin healed from baseball. Don't forget 9-11. Do you remember George Bush throwing out that pitch in the World Series in 2001? Do you remember that? Yeah.

In the third game, how awesome that was and how much that made people feel like life was back to normal. And even when we go to the ballpark and we stand for the national anthem, baseball started that trend back in World War II. So baseball is a part of our fabric. It will return us to normalcy. We hear it every day,

whether we're watching the game, whether it's on in the car, whether it's in the background or you're sitting out on your deck. So baseball needs to be back for the recovery and the healing of this country. So Damian Lillard, one of my favorite players, came out yesterday and said, come on, man, consider everything LeBron's done this year. He's the MVP most valuable player, what he's had to deal with, an old roster, throwing it all together.

Rob, I know you must agree with this. No ways, no how. It's not a lifetime achievement award. What is Damien Lillard talking about? It makes no sense. First of all, Anthony Davis has better numbers than LeBron except for assist. So that's number one. Number two, Janice is having an unbelievable number.

Go ask all the stack geeks and pencil protectors. They'll tell you it's one of the greatest seasons ever put together. his team has the best record. This is not about rewarding LeBron. And plus, he added Anthony Davis to his team, right? He has two of the best three or four players in the league. So they should be doing well. They should be winning.

Damien Lillet is off here. If he put out a rap album and this was on it, I wouldn't buy it. How's that? By the way, there's been articles. I think this is the most, you know, I said, Jordan had the last day. For LeBron, this is the last chance. This is an old roster, a bad free agency class. The cap's coming down.

It's a lousy draft. This is LeBron's chance to win. I do not. I think the clippers are built for five or six years. I think the Lakers are built for this year. Agree or disagree. Totally agree. Colin, I wrote this in my column at Deadspin.com.

That LeBron could be wind up being the biggest loser. when the season reboots because he has to win this year. Just what you talked about, where the Lakers are, you'll never know if there'll be this good again. AD becomes a free agent. Does he re-sign? He can be flaky. You don't know that.

And here's the other part. And LeBron should be worried about is all the other competition that also is going to return. Brooklyn will have Durant and Kyrie together. Don't forget, Golden State will be a player. Steph and Clay will be back, right? And they'll get a good draft pick because they have their terrible season.

So when you start to look around and you're right, the Clippers, to me, were a good team this year and they, you know, they didn't even get a chance to really gel. Those guys were in and out of the lineup with injuries. So now them a year later, they'll be even better. So I think the competition only stiffens and it's going to be tough. So LeBron has to win. If he doesn't win, he's the biggest loser, especially because he's so long in the tooth at this point.

A Boston radio host, W-E-E-E-I, Lou Merlone said, I don't like the new Brady. I don't like the way he sounds. He's trying too hard. He got thrown out of a park. He's not good on the match. And my argument is Boston is insular paralyzed by tradition. They don't like anything that's not like them.

And I think Tom Brady has opened up a whole new exciting world on jet skis with his kids down in Tampa. What do you make of this claim that the new Brady doesn't work? The new Brady is a phony. Where was this Brady for 20 years in New England? You know this, Colin. He was all shucks. Gee whiz.

He never gave you anything. Don't you remember when Peter Alexander from NBC News asked him, is Tom Brady a cheater? he shrugged his shoulders and said, I don't think so. That was a Tom Brady. I'll never forget that moment. Melody is right. And now he's like a college kid down in Tampa, eating at Hooters, enjoying life.

He's great now. Let his hair down. Come on. I'm not buying this new Tom Brady. At all. Do you think he's got a better record, New England, Tampa? I'm going to go with New England. I know everybody's going to say, I'm crazy and, oh, you hate Tom Brady.

I'm not buying into the Tampa thing. I do not believe they're going to. Remember this. Mark this taped down. They will not. N. O.T. make the playoffs. Tom Brady is an old 43. We saw him last year with the Patriots.

It wasn't a pretty sight. One of his worst seasons. And I think everybody, the seasons is not played on paper. just like a year ago when everybody in their uncle piled on the bandwagon for the Browns, and they didn't even make the playoffs. That's not a bad take. All right. The Professor, Rob Parker.

What's your shirt say? Pull it up there. Let me see it. It's Fox Sports. All right. You know, I have all kinds of gear at getrob.com, you know, Colin. I got to get you one of these. You enjoy.

All right. It's a hoodie. It's a hoodie. Very nice. Thank you, Professor. All right. Thanks, Colin. Appreciate it. Imagine picking up your smartphone, opening an app and controlling your grill remotely. That's what you do with R-T-T-T-T-E-C-Grills. Down South, they're the best.

Buy one. You'll never have to buy another. RecTech, R-E-C-E-C-Grills on S.com. Yeah. Eric Mangini joining me. I didn't think my Baker take again was negative Baker. If you look at the conclusion of my Baker-Mayfield rant, it was Baker is figuring out Baker is on the clock big time. Stefansky's won with Case Keenham, Christian Ponder, Gus Verrott, playoffs.

Teddy Bridgewater, he'd not wait in a second for Baker to get his act together. I think Baker knows it. That's why he's on his porch saying no more talk. I thought it was a very uplifting commentary on Baker. I did call him a bus so far if you take out the Bengals games. And that statistically he is a bus so far. If you take out the four games against the worst defense in the league the last two years. Is that a negative or a positive commentary?

Did you call him a bust? Well, I think he is a bust. He's learning. I think it's a number one pick. We're not calling Trabesky a bust. He's 19 and 10, and they want him out in Chicago. Baker is 9 and 16. Being the number one overall pick is not Baker's fault,

but it does come with certain levels of expectations, whether that's fair or unfair, life isn't fair. But I think Baker also has been in the game a little bit longer. He's starting to learn how these things work. You know? I mean, the longer you're in a business, the more you understand the politics and how things move, how one decision affects another. I'd like you to know that coming into the business. I mean, that's, for some, they already get that.

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But if you make it, you get the ball first down ready to go. I loved it. It's new. I'd rather games be decided by a quarterback than a hands team player. Eric Mangini is joining us via the Coward Global Satellite Network, former NFL coach, three Super Bowls with a Patriots on that staff. So I think this stinks. I like quarterbacks.

I don't like hands teams guys. him and Aaron Rogers out of a Super Bowl? What is what is your what is your take and it didn't even get it to a vote it didn't even get that much support? I understand why and look it would have been the legacy of the XFL if it had gotten pushed through and to me this is this is taking special teams even more out of the game. It is called football. There's got to be an element of feet involved in this and the kicking game has to be involved in it. I understand that that everybody wants a easier path to victory. But it's just it forces teams to be good in all three phases,

or at least be competent in all three phases in order to win a game. I had a story last week, and I thought of you. That's why I'm so glad you're on. You used to coach the Jets. Jamal Adams is very good. He can rush the passer. He's a dynamic playmaker, but he's a safety. and when you have a football roster in a salary cap

and you've got holes throughout the roster, there are times I'd be willing to move off a player I love, who I think is great. Now there's the argument the Jets don't have enough star players and he jumps off the field. He jumps through the TV screen. You ran the Jets today. What do you do with Jamal Adams?

Great, going to be hyper expensive, and he's a safety. Well, there's things to consider outside of, just what he does on the field. He's the sixth overall pick. He's been well compensated. He wants more money right now, and he wants to go to Dallas. So if you accommodate him in both those, let's say you do make the trade. What message are you sending to the rest of the locker room? The next guy that's unhappy is going to come up and say, okay, I want a trade. I want more money. And you create that precedent organizationally in terms of how you're going to do business. And

it's a dangerous one to do that. Now, if you think that you can get, get real value for him and you can help your team longer term and he doesn't totally fit your philosophy and vision, then, yeah, go ahead, do what's in your best interest. But to allow guys to shoot their way out of town, I think it's a bad message to send. Yeah, no, I get it. So, you know New England, well, coach there, got a lot of rings because of it. So one of the talk show hosts there, Lou Merlone said, listen, he said, I don't like this new Brady.

This new Brady's talking. he's not funny. He's out there going into parks and getting thrown out of them. He just doesn't feel like our Tom. And, you know, my takeaway is Boston is paralyzed by tradition. They like you to do things their way. And Tom is kind of aspirational. He wanted a new life.

He wanted to have some fun. And this is just part of it. It doesn't bother me. But what do you make of the criticism from some Boston people that, you know what? The new Brady looks silly. He's trying too hard. too much business. We're not comfortable with it.

Yeah, he's not your Tom anymore. He's your ex. And he may be mad at your ex because they're going out and doing some things that you guys didn't do together. But what's Tom really doing? He did an interview on Howard Stern.

Okay, so that took two hours in his life. And then he did a TikTok with Giselle. There's another 30 minutes. Oh, and then he did the horrible thing where he went and did a charity golf tournament and raised $20 million for COVID relief. To me, all those things are just such a horrible waste of time. That's not going to be the thing that affects them in Tampa Bay.

What's going to affect them in Tampa Bay is what system they adopt. And if it's the Bruce Aryan system with just a little bit of input from Tom, that's going to have much bigger effect than Tom being, you know, this new whatever, Tampa Tom or not taking serious, Tom. Yeah, none of it really matters. So Baker, I said this earlier, and people think I don't like Baker. I'm very optimistic and cheery as a personality. I like everybody unless they tick me off. You do.

That's right, right? Mr. Chiri, Mr. Optimism. So if you take out the four games against the Bengals, the worst NFL defense historically two years ago, and the worst defense in the league last year, he's 9 and 16, 60% completions, 39 TDs 30 picks, he's a bust. As a number one pick, he's a bust.

I don't think he'll be a bust this year. But he did say yesterday, hey, no more talking, just doing. I think Baker's figured out, this is the end of the road. Stefansky got Christian Ponder to the playoffs. He's not wasting a second with Baker if any of this maturity issue surfaces. So my takeaway is Baker. I don't know if he's changing, but I think he can sense the temperature or the room. That's my takeaway in his comments.

Your thoughts. Well, I liked what Baker was saying, even when we were at the Super Bowl and he was down there. And it felt like he had a better perspective. and there's more humbleness to his approach. And that's what you need to do. I like the approach or what I'm seeing out of the Browns in this entire off season. The only thing we're talking about is they're all in challenge where someone gets to call a play.

And that's a great thing. We're not talking about the hyper expectations or the issues off the field. It's been a much more quieter approach. And to me, that's a credit to Sifansky and the way that they're doing things. From Baker's perspective, it's great. Now, hopefully, this is the way that he stays. Now, he did also say in one of those interviews, the third year is a big year for a contract. So that lends itself to what you're saying, Colin, this is a little bit of reading the tea leaves and saying,

if I want to get that next bite of the apple, I need to do a lot better job of not just managing things on the field, but managing things off the field. Did you like when he talks about his contract? Do you think that's something? I don't love it, but it is what it is. No, no, I liked when he was talking about, we just need to go out and do it. I have a different approach. Those things to me were really exciting because it does show maturity.

It shows humbleness. It shows a respect for the game. And when you start adding in the contract, then the cynical side comes out where you say, okay, he's just saying this because he thinks it's the right thing to say. I'm hoping it's the former that he has mature and has a totally different approach. Cam Newton, market small for him, tiny, no takers, Bridgewater's got a job, Mariota's got a job, Nick Foles has got a job, James has got a job, Cam doesn't have a job, shocked. Well, what kind of job does he want? Is he willing to take a million and a half like some of these other backups are taking? That's a pretty big salary adjustment for a guy like Cam. Is he willing to come in and truly be a backup and support the starter? I said this in New England.

They're not looking for a star. They're looking for a starter. And Cam comes with a big personality, with a big presence, with a lot of distractions. The other side of it is how much has his throwing motion really changed? And we haven't seen the change of throwing motion under real pressure. It's hard to do that at this point in a guy's career. So you don't truly know what you're getting. Do I think there will be a market for him?

Yeah, at some point. And I think he should wait right. now. Somebody's going to go to camp, see that the quarterback situation isn't what they hoped, and he'll get a lot more money a little bit later down the road. By the way, I would be remiss if I didn't mention this. I told you during the break how great you looked. I said, God, you just look fantastic. And you told me you were trying something. And I think it's important because there's a lot of people out here during the virus and we're all trapped in our houses. And I think this is important and it shows great

discipline. You are going to, what do you call it now? I've been on the intermittent fasting program. I've been trying to limit it to. Now, look, this isn't for everybody. What worse for me is one meal a day and then it's usually in the evening. And then I supplement it with coffee during the course of the day. But look, I'm probably not the best guy to follow their weight loss routine or their fitness routine. I'm pretty up and down.

You can look at the pictures over the years. We're in a down cycle and I'm hoping to stay there, you know, as long as we're. possible. All right. Well, you look fantastic. And by the way, when you come back to town, we're going to have dinner. I'm going to buy it. And the fasting will not apply. It will be post five o'clock. Eric Manjini, thank you. All right? Good to see you. By the way, Joy, Whitlock. Is Whitlock's doing that, right? I think so, yeah. I've, this is now the... I know a lot of people that are doing that right now, actually. It's incredible. I saw Eric and I said, wow. And he said, I'm doing the intermittent fasting. And so I know two people in this building are doing it. He

calls himself one meal whitlock. Yeah, I can't. Well, I mean, first of all, I have no desire to do it, but also, which is the most important thing. But also, I can't. I have to eat something in the morning or I will not feel well. And we get up pretty early. So I imagine if I got up later in the day and my day started later, I might be able to wait. But like when you get up at six o'clock in the morning and then you're working, you know, I'm not saying we're doing hard work, but like my day starts early. I don't know how people do. I couldn't wake up at six and not eat until five. I think that's amazing. You can go till five and not eat. I've had a delicious bowl of oatmeal.

It was terrific. You haven't snuck off to get a sandwich yet. Well, we don't have anything here anymore. It's discouraging. So I had a banana and I had oatmeal. Yeah, I make myself a full breakfast every day. I have two eggs, spinach, turkey bacon, or an avocado. Yeah, you are a hearty breakfast eater.

Yeah, I have to eat breakfast. Oh, and's the same way. I'm not. We'll knock down a prime rib by 8.45 in the morning. I love breakfast, yes. Yes. But I'm impressed by the Whitlaw. I'm impressed too.

I mean, I'm not a huge snacker. Like, I don't really snack on a lot of stuff. That's all I do. Yeah, because you're a grazer. I don't eat meals. I graze all day long. I eat 13 times a day. I'm not joking.

He does. That's how I eat. Okay, Joy, with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. And you eat so fast, too. Oh, I just might, yeah, bad.

Not healthy. I eat too fast. It's like a cartoon, like, where the cartoons where they just, like, open their mouth and it's like, dump the food in. It's gone. So in the last dance, Michael Jordan said he was offended that the media compared him to Clyde Drexler when the two met in the NBA finals. And Clyde responded to MJ's diss, joining plenty of other players unhappy with the comments

that Jordan made in the doc. Wow. That's Michael's documentary. Of course, obviously it's going to be from his perspective. And a lot of times, guys didn't like each other from other teams. But as you get older, you've got to get beyond all of that and show some love and some respect for the people you play with and against. This is a team game.

It's not one guy. I mean, you could have 50 points and 40 rebounds, but if you lose, are you less of a player than anybody on the other team? No. So it's a team game. So I hate when people act like it's an individual competition. I didn't take 35 shots and get 20 free throws a night. But you're not going to score 40 some point tonight.

A little shot at MJ there. Well, MJ earned his way to the free throw line. He was foul. Look, here's the thing about the last dance documentary and everybody's reaction to it. First of all, if you participated in the documentary in any capacity and you're upset, then I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for you

because it's Michael Jordan. Everybody knows who Michael Jordan is. You play with Michael Jordan. You, of all people, should know how Michael Jordan is. Also, don't get it twisted. The reason we're interested in this is because of Michael Jordan. Like, that was a great team, and we loved it. You know what I was great?

Because Michael Jordan was on it. So Michael Jordan had to approve the documentary happening. That means it's the Michael Jordan's documentary. They didn't have to ask anybody else if they could use the footage. They asked Michael Jordan. It's Michael Jordan's documentary. You know what? The other thing, I've had people say this to me.

Why do you think he retired? And I've always said his father's life was taken. But you know what when you really watched that documentary, what became really clear? Michael had so much of the offensive burden. Pippin was never a natural 25 a game score. He was a great slasher. Koo coach was a more finesse player, although he could score 25.

You couldn't rely on Tony to give you 25. The centers were mediocre scores. Curran Paxson were shooters, not scores. They could give you six, seven big shots over a week. But the reality is, if you go back to that 98 season, my takeaway is, once Pippin got hurt, Michael was it. It's amazing.

It's the best basketball team. Like the Warriors. God, Durant could struggle. Clay's hot. You have games where Steph just struggles. Doesn't matter. Durant, Clay. And it wasn't just,

it wasn't just Pipman. Rodman's gone doing whatever he's doing, not coming to practice. Like, he's dealing with the media every second of every day, asking him the same question, literally at every single media scrum. Like, there's a lot that he was dealing.

dealing with. But my thing is like you're getting mad at Michael Jordan for being Michael Jordan, A and B, there's a reason why he gets to make these calls. When you, when you become the greatest at something or you are great at something, you're the only one that can do something. You get to make decisions everybody else doesn't get to make because you're the best. There's a reason why he's the best. He worked hard to be the best. Yes, he has natural talent, but that's, that goes for any other business. If you're the best at something, people come to you like, hey, Howard Stern, what do you think about this? What's your call on this?

And then they take what Howard says and then they do it. Not because they necessarily have to, but it's because he's Howard Stern. When they want something from Oprah, and Oprah says, you know what, this is how we should do it. They do it. When you're the best at something, you get to make those calls. Yep.

You want to make those calls? Go to be the best. Right. Until then, you don't get to make those calls. Thank you. So Tua has looked good in recent workout videos as he continues to come back from his hip injury. Certainly does.

The dolphins still have Ryan Fitzpatrick in case Tua isn't ready to go when the season starts, but multiple NFL coaches reportedly believe that it's a foregone conclusion that Tua will be the Dolphins week one starter. I am starting to believe that he will be the week one starter as well. So that is, I was looking down at my notes, week one, foregone conclusion. Well, that's starting to be the feeling, yeah. And look, I would like to see Tua be in a situation similar to Patrick Pahomes

where he can sit for a year, you know, maybe he needs some extra time. I'm not a doctor. I don't know. But Tua's star power is just probably not going to permit that happening. Even if they did start the season with Ryan Fitzpatrick, if Ryan seems to struggle at all in any capacity, there's going to be a groundswell for Tua to get out there.

It's just he, he's already has too much of a platform to sit. Like Patrick Mahomes not playing his first year. We weren't quite sure what Patrick Mahomes was yet. like we had an opportunity to see that. I think, I got to tell you something, Tua's going to start and this team's going to make the playoffs. I just changed my mind. I've got so much of a buzz right now.

Yeah, you're wild today. Miami needs a star at quarterback. They do. Period. Absolutely. You cannot just be a guy. You've got to be a star. I've had too many just guys bouncing around the dolphins.

Give me a star. Give me Tua. I'm very excited. You are. Finally, the Rams announced the dates for their preseason schedule yesterday. They host the Saints and their first. first preseason game of the year on Friday, August 14th, which is scheduled to be the first ever events held in the new SoFi Stadium.

It's beautiful. I fly over it. It's more done than that now. That's an old picture. It will be ready to go. The Chargers' first preseason game is August 16th against the Cowboys, and they're going to share this facility, which is beautiful. But yeah, so it is on track to be done.

How about these construction workers that work on top of that stadium? How do they do it? Yeah, I don't. I don't like heights. I don't mind heights, but every once in a while I'll kind of get near something. I'm like, ah. Like elevators and big buildings.

I don't like, yeah, I don't like elevators. Anyway, but yeah, those ones that go up, like, 70 flights. Flying, I got over flying long ago. Except you ever been in a helicopter? I've been in those couple times. I haven't been in a helicopter. When they're stationary and you're hovering above something,

planes, I'm just, you're going 400 miles an hour so you don't feel it. I used to get really scared on planes. And then one day, literally, I was sitting on the plane and was like, Like, if something goes wrong, I can do nothing about it. I have zero control in this situation. So I'm just going to sit here and wear my seatbelt and, you know, hopefully we get there. That's how, that's exactly how I look at my marriage. I have no control over it.

If we crash, I'm just going to put a seatbelt on and hope I serve on it. You have no, you have no way of keeping it from crashing. No, no. I mean, somebody else is flying the plane and is flying. Well, yeah, and is flying the plane. So I just hope it doesn't crash. I got my seat belt on. I just know I can't control it.

That's how I look at marriage. I used to be petrified. And then I just one day gave up the power. Well, once you submit, you know, it's easier. Because, of course, the job of the man is... Do what we say. You get very upset when I say that, but... I think it's funny.

It's true and funny. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. Okay, so we're going to do it. It's National Spelling Bee Day, and the staff said, okay, we're going to do the spelling bee with Colin and embarrass Colin.

so we're going to see here we go with the spelling bee it's coming up next the sports spelling be around the corner be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a m pacific all been spending more quality time with family to invest in something great for them and you summers here why don't we try rec tech grills rec tech grills r e c tec grills with an s dot com i didn't know if i was back because they turned off all my monitors everything is black in the studio for me i can't see anything because today should be the script spelling bee or yesterday, but it got canceled because of the

virus. Right. So we thought we would do to end our show best for last. The herd spelling bee. So they turned off the cameras. Everything in the studio is pitch black. My monitor's black. The middle one it tells me to read something, but it's Discover commercial, so that's

all it has. And then this one doesn't have any words on it. So you cannot cheat. I can't, no, I can't cheat. So here we go. We're doing to do the hurt. I can't even look at, they won't even let me look at myself? Why can't I look at myself? Can I use a pen? No, I can't use a pen. Those kids can't use a pen. Yeah, they can't use a pen. They mimic writing on their hand. Yeah, you can write it out. Okay, here we go.

All right. The word is, well, let's just say the name is, the name is Rethersberger. Ben Rothlisberger. R-O-E-H-L-I-S-B-E-R-G-E-R. Yay, very good. All right. All right. I'm impressed. You didn't even need to use it in a sentence or anything.

The name is Garapolo. Jimmy Garapolo, 49ers quarterback. Correct. G-A. Oh, boy. Is it one R or two? Hold on, hold on. G-A-R, Lord, is it one R?

Hold on. Hello. G-A-R-A-P-A-L-O. Oh, G-A-R-A-P-A-L-O. G-A-R-O-P-P-O-L-O. That was not your best effort on that one. It went off the rails quickly. I can tell me your facial, facial.

All right, let's see if you can get this one. Antis de Kumpo. Oh, Janus. Can I just do Janus? No, you cannot do Janus. You want me to just hit the wrong buzzer now or do you want to wait? Give it a try. No, I've looked at this for it.

A-N-T-E, Ante, and then it goes T-O-K-O. Okay. U-N-M-P-O. Whoa. Pow! Very good. Yeah. I did not think you were going to.

I'm now convinced you are cheating. somehow. There's no way. That's amazing. First of all, I butcher Garoppolo. I mean, there's no question you butcher Garoppolo. It was, it's, it's, I have also seen Janus and Rathesberger's names a million times. Like, Garopolo's the 14th best quarterback.

I don't see his name as much. I'm impressed with I thought you had no chance of getting that one. How about Donchich? Luca Donchich. I think it's D-O-N-C-I-C-C. Yep. Yeah, that's an easy one. Very good.

Yeah. All right. Shashefsky. I'm going to drink of water on this. Hold on. So years ago. By the way, you can ask for a country of origin or to be used in a sentence if you need. Yeah.

Yeah. How would you use it in a sentence? Shoshowski? Yeah. Mike Shishvsky is the coach of Duke. How about if I spell coach K? No. All right, here we go.

So years ago, I figured out a way to remember this. Because I had interviewed him so many times, I was kind of embarrassing that I couldn't spell his name. Okay. So I remember it was K-R-Z-Y-Z-Y-Z-Z-Y-Z-E-W-S-K-I. Wow. But I did that years ago because I was embarrassed. K-R-Z-Y-Z-Y-Z-K. Pretty good.

Yeah. All right. Poulissick. Christian Poulissick. You love Christian Poulissik. What's his country of origin? It is Croatian. That helps a lot.

Okay. Okay. Again. Can I close my eyes? Yeah. I can't write on my hand or I can't write on. No, you can. No, you cannot use a pen.

You cannot use a pen. You cannot use a pen. You cannot use a pen. I can't use a pen. No. What's the difference between writing on your hand and writing on paper? P-U-L-I-S-I-C. Yes.

Yes. All right. God, I butchered Garoppolo. I wasn't even close. We may give you another go at that if we have more time. I think if you did, I'd still butcher it. Tua, Tuna Viloa. Oh, come on.

Now, now. That is, he's barely played. I don't, I'm going to butcher that. That is true. But so this might be worth, like Shoshavsky, you learning how to spell if you can't get it. What's his family of origin? He's a moan. Oh, that helps not at all.

Colin likes Tua, Tuna Vailoa, more than Joe Burrow. What's the one after? Can I skip one? Can you do that in a spelling B? No, but I mean, this is our spelling B. Can you pass? Oh. You're not allowed to pass in the spelling B.

No, you just have to keep spelling stuff right until you lose. I'm not, I don't want to humiliate him or me. Come on. T-U-A. Tua. Tua. I can't put, I can't do it. Okay, Tunga-Bi-L-A-L-A-L-A-L-A.

You've seen it at Al-GA. Okay, I'm gonna T-U-N. With T-U-N-W-T-U-A. T-U-N-W-T-A. And I'm going Tunga-Loa. So I'm trying the tongue of Ioloa thing. Okay. T-U-N-G-A-E-L-A-O-A-O-A.

God. Tell me how to spell that. You lost it after T. Yeah. Literally. T-A-G-G-O-V-A-I-L-O-A. It is not spelled how it is pronounced at all. I bet you his dad misspelled it twice this week.

No, I don't think so. That's impossible. His own name. All right. Since you wanted to skip. which you probably should have. The last one is T.J. Hushman Zada, our friend.

Oh, God, if I miss all this, I'm embarrassed for life. I consider him a friend. If I can't spell his name, this is why I learned how to spell Shushke. I've actually gotten good at spelling his name. Okay, H-M-Zada. H-M-M-Zata. H-O-U-S-H. So am I right there, H-H.

Oh, Lord. And he'll get an archive tape of this. It'll be brutal. Don't talk yourself out of it. H-M-Z-H-O-U-S-H. what's his origin it says he went to Oregon

State it's not the origin that's his country of Oregon Oregon no that's not the origin state H-O-U-S-H his father's Iranian and his mother's African American

Menzada M God there's an A in there M-E-N-D M-E-N-D-A-H close close so it's H-O-O-E-S-A-H

H-O-U-S-H, you're right about that. M-A-N. M-A-N. Of course it's that Kush-M-A-Z-A-D-E-H. D, Z-A-D-E-H. It's actually not hard to spell if you... And his country of origin is Corvallis, Oregon. It says Oregon State.

You want to give Garapolo another try? Let's try it again. All right. Jimmy Garapolo. G-A-R-A-P-P-O-L-O. What? Garap. Okay.

G-A-R-O-P-O-L-O. No. God, what not? G-A-R, no, G-A-R-P-P-O-L-O. Very good. Fifth times the charm. That's always how it's been. You actually did a lot better than I thought you were going to do.

I did not think you were going to get one. Well, Coach K I knew from years ago. Right. That one I knew from years ago. And Rathlisberger I've seen. Ruther's just Rowe.O.E. Then it's easy. When we mentioned this morning we were going to do this,

I didn't realize you had already had a memorization method for Shoshchowski. I feel like you kind of knew that's probably why you were okay with this. You knew you'd have one of the curve balls figured out. Well, if I want one for nine, I'd still be a public humiliation. So I had to get more than one. If you went one for nine, but you got Shoshchewski, I don't know if that'd be that bad because that is the hardest one. It's worse not being able to spell a friend's name.

Mike was on my show. Mike texts me. I can't not be able to spell Mike Shishowski's name. He texts me. Andy Reid texts me. TJ's a friend. I know. That's why I'm humiliated.

I can spell Ocho, O-C-H-O. Chad Johnson, I had that one down too. I do love the spelling me, though. Yeah. Those kids are brilliant. Unbelievable. So do you just memorize a dictionary? I mean, how do you, what do you?

You get to the end. X, Y, Z words. I mean, I'm sure you, like, drill and stuff. Like, because it's a lot of pressure, too. Oh, my Lord. It's televised. That may be the, that may be in the world, the smartest group of 150 people ever assembled. Other than that thing they do in, like, Sun Valley, Idaho every year where it's all the, like, tech geniuses.

Look how the brainpower are those kids. Yeah. I remember my spelling being high school. I can remember. I got 49 out of 50. I misspelled Hawaii. Hawaii is H-A-W-A-I-I-I. What did you do?

H-A-W-I-I-I. I came home that day. I was furious because I love states. I love maps. It was literally sixth grade. I can remember misspelling it. So you can't spell Hawaii or quarterbacks from it. Exactly.

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I got to tell you, folks, we are grinding out a lot of shows at this network. But I am, the NBA and the Major League Baseball are wearing me out a little. You know, a month ago, I was very patient. But when I see the NBA talk in August, I'm like, do you want to go head to head with the NFL? You leagues, you got to start June 25th, July 1st. You got July and August and early September. You get into October.

You don't want an NBA final game getting crushed by a Colts Jags game, and it would be. All right, Joy, great job. Goulet, thanks for embarrassing me with the spelling bee. We will see you tomorrow live in Los Angeles. us, it is the herd. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

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On The Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.

84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hardway with your favorite therapist and host Kear Games. This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit or armor.

It signals to the world that you not to be played with. And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to. Listen and learn the hard way on the IHard radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHart podcast. Guaranteed human.