The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Nightcap - 49ers dominate Giants, Deion Sanders vs. Oregon, Selena Gomez rumors
Episode Date: September 22, 2023Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson react to the San Francisco 49ers thumping the New York Giants 30-12 on NFL Thursday Night Football. They also discuss what Deion Sanders and Colorado have to do to keep... pace with Oregon. Then they dig into Shannon’s viral moment involving Selena Gomez and Shannon explains the real story. #volume #herd #clubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, welcome to another edition of Nightcap.
I'm your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp.
He's your favorite number 85, Chad Ochosinko Johnson.
And let's jump right into it.
The Niners again win another regular season game.
They look unstoppable.
Brock Purdy Still has not lost the regular season game
as a 49er starter.
And he's now third all time.
Consecutive wins to start a career trailing,
Big Ben, who's number one with 15.
What was your takeaway?
What did you like about the Giants tonight?
I mean, excuse me, the 49ers tonight.
Listen, the 49ers did everything they were supposed to do.
There's a reason they played, they've lost home games.
They've lost one home game out of the last 15,
and the last loss was in 2022 to the Kansas City Chiefs.
Week 7.
Why?
Brock Purdy playing well, McCaffrey playing well, they move in McCaffrey, he in the slot,
he catching balls all the way on the outside, minus Brandi-I-U, the offense didn't miss a beat.
Debo Samuels, I don't know what he had to eat.
I don't know what he had to eat for breakfast or someone, but whatever it is he had to eat,
he need to keep on eating it.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
But let me tell you what upsets me.
Let me tell you what upsets me.
Sequin Barkley is out.
The Giants know you got to come in with a game plan to fill the void of the production that Saquan would have for you.
What do they come out and do?
What do they come out and do?
Try to prove Daniel Jones is the guy.
A $40 million quarter of a $40 million quarter.
No.
I saw multiple times from quarter one to quarter three on third down in a few second downs.
The 49th defense played man to man across the board.
and nobody can get open.
That's a sign of disrespect to that receiver room.
It's a sign of disrespect.
The coaching staff knows you need a little bit more creativity.
If you don't have anybody that can win in one-on-one situations,
condense the formation.
Fourth of the DBEs that have to back up.
If anything, put people in motion.
I ain't backing up against nobody.
I know it can't get open against press coverage.
You don't have a choice.
That's why I said condense the formations.
put people in motion, a great way for them to get open.
The officer of the coordinator, I don't even know who his name is,
but you have to understand your offensive player's strengths and their weaknesses.
If you know they can't off the muscle, get open and help your team win,
what are you doing?
What are you doing?
You have Jalen Hyatt.
Jalen Hyatt is a speister.
Jalen Hyatt is a game-changing player.
every time I see Jalen
coming the game, all he doing is going deep.
What are we doing?
Right. Passes to Darren Waller.
Darren Waller is a ball player.
He is a ball player. You paid him, you brought him over there for a reason.
Ball's too high, ball's too low, putting Darren Walla on the outside.
You know, everything is so predictable.
It's so predictable.
Waller going to the Giants was out of his control for the simple fact that he was traded there.
Okay.
But I don't believe he would.
have gone in free agency because he would have learned his lesson from Evan Ingram.
Look at Evan Ingram and the Giants.
Look at Evan Ingram and Jacksonville.
Man, balling.
You see the difference?
Yeah.
So that's the situation.
I agree with you.
The fact of the matter is that the Giants' office is predicated on Sequin Barclay,
being able to run the football effectively.
Right.
Look, I understand that you paid Daniel Jones because you felt you had to out of necessity.
You didn't have a choice.
But if you think, if you think Daniel Jones is,
going to lead you somewhere without Seiquant.
You're fooling yourself.
You're fooling yourself.
They knew that from the beginning.
When Sequan went down last week, the game plan should have been offensively.
How can we fill the void and fulfill the production that Sequan would give us?
We have to make Daniel Joan job easy because leaving it in his hands to be a quarterback
and sit back there and do what he need to do.
What both are coming off the edge and the rest of that deep, 49th and defense plan well,
ain't go happen.
Dude, I wanted to cry,
and I'm not trying to be funny.
I know I play around a lot,
but if I felt bad,
the fact that the 49ers had the nerve
on third down,
almost every down,
until it got to the fourth quarter,
they played man to man
with one safety in the middle of the field
and said,
let me see you get open.
Let me see you get open.
Like, that hurt me.
Ocho, but you know now,
when you got Bosa on one side,
You got hardroved, you got armstead, you got Kenilong,
you got guys that can get up your quarterback.
It's kind of the Dallas principle.
You're like, hey, I'm not going to allow you to have no zone.
Get open because I already know you ain't got about 2.5 seconds to get up off that ball.
Because both are going to get home.
One of them guys going to get home.
That's all you need in man to man, though, Shannon.
And man to man, you just need 2.5 seconds.
Stick release, get up out of there, dip a shoulder, run, stack him,
and just do something, give your quarterback, give your offense a chance.
I'm looking at it like this here.
Mike, my former coach in Denver, Mike Shenhan, said,
if you can't beat man coverage, there's two jobs for you,
coaching or selling cars.
My staff is field, so I ain't hiring.
So I don't know, John, he used to ask, John,
you hired it because John owned car dealers.
Right, right, right.
So that's the only two choices.
You either coaching or you're selling cars.
You've got to be able to beat press coverage.
You've got to be able to beat man coverage.
If you can't beat man coverage in the NFL,
you cannot play receiver in the NFL.
But think about this.
Think about this.
You know your player's strengths and your weaknesses.
If you know you don't have anybody in that receiver room, you know,
and no disrespect.
So you say stack them or put them in a bunch formation to give them something.
Put them in a bunch.
Put somebody in motion.
Create ways to help them get open.
Free them up.
Trying ways to do it, especially on third down.
You just leaving them out there to dry knowing that this is not their strength.
This is not what they do.
That's not what they do.
Then you put Darren Wallet, you put in Darren Waller out,
out wide.
A tight end.
That's not a steady.
Yeah.
You can't get a scared out of that.
He goes out wide.
He's going one place.
He's coming in.
He coming in.
All the sake he did
would just sat down there and just drove right.
He just drove right on it.
He drove right on the slam.
Come on, man.
Then the crossing route,
the crossing route on third now,
third and 12.
We're paying you $40 million,
Daniel Jones.
We pay you $40 million.
Dan Waller running the cross round full speed.
You thought on his back shoulder and high.
Yeah.
Go on, man.
Then I'm looking at Twitter.
He'll just,
he'll just his hands.
Yeah, I'm looking at Twitter.
Oh, he should have caught that.
Me, what's you talk about?
He's going to the opposite way.
Hold on, Ocho.
But you talk about Twitter.
You're talking about people that's never caught the football for in high school or for a living.
I said, do you understand how hard it is to be running in one direction?
Try to slow down.
Open your hips up.
You've got to open your hips.
Get your body around.
Now, mind you, even if you do that, your momentum is still going the opposite direction in which the ball is being thrown.
Now, you take it from somebody, two people that caught over, I called over 800 balls, you caught over 700 balls.
So you're talking to two guys that called over 1,500 footballs.
Yeah.
I think you and I know a little something about catching a football.
A little some.
A little some.
And yeah, occasionally I was able to be running full speed and able to open my hips and get my hips around.
Right.
And get my head around, hands around, and catch it.
Right.
But you're not going to make a steady die out of that.
I don't care who you are.
I don't care how great a receiver you are.
You're not going to make a steady die of that.
Especially when your momentum.
I mean, full speed.
It's third down, for one.
It's third down.
So you know you haul and tail to beat man and get away from that dude.
And the ball being behind you, just a tad bit it throws everything off.
And I'm not asking you to put the ball between the eight and the four, every snap.
I understand, you know, hey, you're getting pressure, guys at your feet, guys flying around your head.
You probably had to get outside the pocket and make a throat.
But damn, at least give me an opportunity.
Help me out a little bit.
Christopher has scored a touchdown in 12 straight games.
I thought that that was the biggest trade of last year during the season.
I thought it was a great situation knowing how, knowing that offense,
knowing what Christian McCaffrey is, his ability to run between the tackles,
to run outside.
You can throw him the ball out of the backfield.
You can line him up in the slot.
You can put him out wide.
He can run the slow go route.
He's a utility.
The funny thing about it is you talk about him being a Swiss Army knife and a utility.
Everything you just named that he can do, he did the night.
Every last one, he caught one from the slots.
He caught one from outside.
He caught him out the backfield.
He ran off tackle.
He did everything and there was no answer for him.
There was no answer for him.
And then because the running game was going so well, they could do whatever they want in the past the game.
And the fact that they put up, what, 30 plus the night?
They put up 30 plus tonight, right?
No Brandon Ayuk.
No, Brandon Iuke.
So what happened when he comes back?
What's the answer?
Can I ask you,
the answer is,
look, in order to play in this office
in the West Coast office,
you need receivers that are great run after the catch
because a lot of the stuff that you catch
are going to be at or near the line of scrimmage.
If you look at Debo,
how many smoke screens, jailbreak screens do they throw him?
How many smoke screens and jailbreak screens
do they throw C-MAT?
I-Ut, when he's in there,
they do a lot of their damage.
You have to be able to be physical because one thing you got to do in the West Coast,
you got to block.
Oh, yeah.
If you're not going to block, you can't be in.
You're not going to play for Kyle Shanahan because I was coached by his dad and he's going to tell you,
you ain't blocking, we ain't throwing no past to you.
So you've got to be able to be physical.
Right.
And you catch a lot of short routes in traffic.
If you see, Devo took some shots, he didn't catch the ball.
Right.
But he caught, you know, slant route.
I saw you two weeks about, man, I wish I would catch me,
I wish I would play right now, catch a slant.
Because I want some of Fred Warner.
No, you don't.
I would have gave him that business.
I would have a friend.
Man, listen, me and Fred, we weigh the same.
We weigh the same.
We weigh exactly.
Wait, what are the same?
Well, I'm, I'm 2.30 right now.
What did you talk about?
Man, don't play.
Listen, Shannon, don't play at my top.
Don't play at my top.
You were 1.75.
1.75 with 4 bricks in your pocket.
I'm too.
No, okay.
I'm just playing.
I'm 215.
You ain't 215.
You ain't up been 215 to your life.
Oh, my God, man.
Listen, if anything.
You ain't up.
You've never been over 200 pounds in your life.
What does you talk about?
I'm 215 right now.
I just weighed myself two days ago on the scale.
How are you going to tell me at Publix?
The scale in publics.
If I see, if you ever get to 215, I'm calling the doctor immediately.
Something wrong with it.
I work, I work hard.
I work hard to get, I work hard to get this body like this.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
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The 49ers ran short routes, intermediate routes, and ain't do nothing deep.
They ain't thought they got to. They ain't thrown nothing deep. They didn't have to.
They ran the one route, the Debo. Remember, they throw the last touchdown the Debo call. Oh, yeah.
Matter of fact, speak, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so glad you said that. Adori Jackson.
two times on third down.
They tried to get deep on the slam.
All the Dory did was he positioned himself,
a whole, a full man inside.
I already know it's coming.
I already know it's coming.
So what they did, they waited it out,
waited it out until third down.
That's a slugel.
They blitz, slugel, boom, over top, touchdown.
And I tweeted it out before,
ahead of time, I know Shannonham must have seen that tweet.
That's why they call that.
Yes. That's what they call it.
Yeah, that's what they call it.
So you want to be officer coordinator now?
Nope.
No, no, sorry.
I play Madden, though.
I play Madden.
It's all the same.
So CMAQ has now scored a touchdown in 12 straight games.
The record is 18 straight games by LT.
Do you think he'll get the 18th?
Most definitely.
Most definitely.
He'll be able to get there because the offense is too efficient.
It's too efficient.
There's no way to stop it.
I'm trying to think I don't have their schedule in front of me
on who they play, on who they play next or who they're playing up until the
bi-week.
But what defense is out there that can stop what they're doing?
What defense is out there that can do it?
because they got, if you look at all the guys, look at Kittle.
Kittle almost had 100 yards receiving.
Debo had 100 yards.
As you mentioned, there was no IU.
Bell caught a touchdown.
Jennings is tremendous run after the catch.
They got Ray Ray McDonnell.
He's good run after the catch because he's a punt.
McLeod, excuse me.
He's tremendous because he's a punt returner.
Anybody that's a punt returner tells you he's good run out of the catch
because you got to be able to make people miss.
So I like them.
And then the Giants,
Daniel Jones, one and 11 in prime time games.
40 million dollar quarterback.
No disrespect to him.
Obviously, they were in, I don't want to say a chokehold,
but you got to pay your quarterback.
You got to pay your quarterback.
But your offense is run through number 26.
Yeah.
Now you see.
Now you see.
But we do.
Everybody know, everybody knew that.
Everybody knows that.
They know that.
They know they're not going anywhere
without the ability to run the football.
Whether Saquan, Barclay, it doesn't matter.
He's not a guy that you can just put the ball in his hand
and say, son, go win the game.
There are very few quarterbacks in the National Football League
that can, if you, without the some resemblance
of a run game can win you a game.
He needs to rely heavily.
Now, if you let him just run,
Run around. Yeah, he's great legs.
Very athletic. He's way above average when it comes to running the football.
And keep him making plays, keeping plays open, extending plays.
He's a guy. I'd rather have him in the pocket as opposed to outside of the pocket because he can hurt me with his legs.
I'm really not worried about him beating me with his arm, especially with no threat of the run game.
And those receivers, man, I'm pressing across the board. I ain't do nothing but pressing.
It's no disrespect to the Giants receivers. I love all them boys.
I've watched him, Sladen, Jalen Hyatt, I know what he did in college.
Yeah, but you know college, guys are afraid of oppression college.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying, you have someone with that kind of speed, move them around, put him in motion, create ways for him to get open.
There are so many ways for officers coordinators to be creative, the lack of running game, help your quarterback out, help your receivers out, help your offense out, make your job.
you complicate and everything.
Don't complicate it.
Simplify it.
So the offense can be somewhat efficient
because you don't have a running game.
Ocho, you know, sometimes
OCs get stuck in a way,
this is my offense, this is what I do.
As opposed to your offense is only as good
as the people that you have in it.
And the offense should be catered
or tailored to what those people do really, really well.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I mean.
I mean, there are not, listen,
there's not a whole lot of guys.
that you can say, okay, son, go get open.
Yeah.
They're not a whole lot of guys.
It's a few of them.
I can name five of them right now.
But I'm saying, but you see, ain't none of them on the giants.
Right.
So that's my, that's my thing.
So you have to scheme for them.
There are some guys that ain't no scheme.
Right.
Some go get open.
Go beat that man.
Right.
And I think.
And as you mentioned,
wait, wait, wait, wait, go ahead.
No, I was saying, as you mentioned, some guys you got a scheme for.
Right.
to stack a bunch to formation.
You got to put them in motion.
Right.
You got to do all.
You've got to dress all of it up to try to confuse the defense.
And that I can just tell Tyreek or Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase or some of these other guys.
Devante, Devante, Davante Adams, Keenan Allen,
Jamar.
I mean, just off the muscle.
I call it just getting it off the muscle.
There are certain receivers in the NFL that makes our offense a coordinator's job easy
because I know I can count on him come hell of high water.
Every time.
every time.
Yeah, and I need a first and a 15th guy.
Yeah.
And you know what happened on the first and the 15 of the checks card.
So I need to be able to depend on him like I depend on the first and the 15th.
And look, no disrespect to any of the guys because if you're in the NFL, you're extremely
talented.
But there's levels to this.
No matter what position that you play, there's levels to it.
And there's tier one, which is the elite.
And then there's tier two and three.
and then there are guys in the league that, okay, we've got to fill out the roster.
Right, right.
But the Giants receivers, that's not good enough.
Yeah.
That's not good.
Listen, I can't have a bad quarterback and bad receivers.
Only one, you get one.
You can have a bad quarterback and top receivers or you can have, you know, a top quarterback,
but you can't have two.
You know, I think also I don't want to discredit the DBs for the 49ers.
I think they are in the upper echelon as a whole, as a, as it.
as an entire unit to where it was a little difficult.
I think the Giants will be able to succeed on other defenses.
But just tonight, I think they were a little exposed in man-to-man coverage
based on the personnel that they were going against.
The Giants got a tough schedule.
But say, here's the thing.
Football is about respect.
Right.
And if I don't respect you as a player, I'm going to do whatever I want.
I mean, I got to be able to feel.
I got to have fear that you can run by me.
Right.
I have to have a healthy fear that you can beat me.
I guarantee you, if you asked the 49ers to a man,
they didn't respect not one of those Giants receivers
because they didn't believe they can beat man coverage.
And that's why they sought their ass down right in front of him
and said, you can't beat me.
The first three quarters,
they ain't going to an umbrella
and just try to keep everything underneath them
until they got four minutes into the third quarter.
I mean, in the fourth quarter, they ain't even care about.
Right.
Like, come on, man.
Come on, man.
That was crazy.
That was bad.
The Giants go, look, they get 10 days, possibly, I think Sequin said he has a high ankle
spring.
Right.
So that three weeks could turn into six weeks could turn into eight weeks.
Right.
Which is, I mean, considering what y'all think about me as the running back at the running back position,
I'm not so sure that I'm doing everything I possibly can.
I'm trying to fool's speed ahead to try to get back and put this extra wear and tear on my body.
Because y'all have already told me, which I thought of me.
Yeah, basically.
Because I see you get a quarterback 40 million.
and then after I signed the franchise tag,
I see you give an offensive lineman by 18 to 22 million.
So I see where you see the value is.
You say in your left tackle and your quarterback is more valuable to me.
Right.
But we're going to see how many games you win because now the left,
I think the left tackle guy, he got dinged in the last game and he was out.
But that just goes to show you,
and you and I talked about this, the running,
when you have a top-like running back,
Right.
There's value in that.
I mean, the fact that the owners don't see that, you know, they're, they, they, you think so?
You think so?
The owners are going to try to, listen, Ocho, like you said, if I can buy something of value.
Right.
That's the thing.
What do you do is stock?
You try to buy it the cheapest price possible.
Right.
I'm not trying to buy, I'm not trying to buy, I'm not trying to buy a stock when it's at
highest.
I'm trying to buy at its lowest and get the maximum amount of it.
So when, when can I get the,
maximum out of a running back, Ocho.
From the time I get him to my camp,
probably the first three years.
And then what do they say?
Now all of a sudden, well, you know what they say,
but you don't put,
you don't put a thousand,
1,200 touches on that man body.
Right.
You run him into the,
you tell me there's no value in him,
but you try to use him
300 different ways in the course of a season.
Right.
You're right.
So there's no value.
Why you gave me 300,
why you gave me 300 touches there?
I ain't got no value.
That's crazy. I mean, the running backs are in a tough spot,
tough position. Obviously, with the game, especially heading toward being a more
past happy league, they just don't value the position as much as they did during our era.
When I think about the AFC North, Jamal Lewis, Jerome Bettis,
Peyton Hillis when he was with Cleveland.
You play with Corey Dillon.
Yeah, Corey Dillon. You know, it was run first.
Yes.
We're going to run the ball to establish the past. Now is, man, they dropping back.
They're throwing the ball.
65 times.
They throwing the ball 65 times the game.
We only had 65 plays.
Played.
Exactly.
Right.
It's crazy.
If you had a top flat running back player,
man, your numbers, man,
look at all them tidiness and say,
bro, if I got to grab running for 2,000 yards,
right.
How many passes do you think you're going to throw a game
if you got a guy running for 2,000 yards in the season?
Right, right, right, right.
Bad news today for the Dallas Cowboys,
Trayvon Diggs.
Dallas Cowboys, everybody was starting to feel really good about the Cowboys.
one of the,
one of the best corners
in the National Football League goes down
with a torn ACL.
How big of a blow
is this to the Cowboys
and should they still be considered
the favorites to represent the NFC
in the Super Bowl?
I think, to me, Diggs is top five.
Diggs is top five.
Man, the man, a lot of people
will probably argue the fact
that he gets beat a lot,
but he does get a lot of picks.
Yeah.
Diggs is very, very, very smart.
He liked to jump a lot of stuff.
He knows when they gambling, he likes to gamble at the right time.
And most of the time, 98% of the time, he guesses right.
He guesses right.
Him and Gilmore have been a phenomenal tandem.
The past two weeks they've obviously played together.
I think it's a blow.
I think it's a blow, but I still think they are the favorites.
Because that front four, that front five?
They're relentless.
Relentless.
Mackay's still there.
Yeah.
So this is as special as Diggs is, they can plug somebody else in.
It won't be Diggs.
It ain't going to be nothing.
like Trayvon.
No.
They can still find somebody and plug them in that can play and be efficient
because of that front line and the pressure.
Right.
That Mackay and the rest of the boys are going to put on.
Yeah.
You look at Micah.
You look at DeLaw or Diggy Zua.
You look at Williams.
You look at Fowler.
They got a NASCAR package where they can run six, seven, eight different guys,
rotation guys.
Nobody is fatigued.
Right.
And so they can just keep running them in and out.
And Micah is relentless.
and he basically his hand in the dirt,
even though a lot of time he stands up.
He's relentless in his rush.
It's going to be very interesting.
Who defensive player of the year is going to be?
Because T.J. Watts, not taking a backseat to anyone.
He's jumping out the ball also.
So that is great.
We remember last year,
they said the same thing when the corner on the opposite side
went down to Trayvon.
And they're not going to miss a beat.
Oh, yes, they did.
Because they just singled that guy out.
And they just threw the ball up to him.
Right.
And he either got a, he either got beat or he PI.
Yeah, P.I.
One or the other.
I just, I mean, I'm not, I'm not.
I just feel bad.
I feel bad.
I feel bad.
I feel bad.
I feel bad.
I'm glad.
He got his money.
He got his money.
He got his money.
Yeah, he did.
He'll be able to come back.
He'll be able to come from, come back from that.
Chedavius White, I think, if I'm not mistaken, towards ACL.
Yeah.
Maybe not last season, but the season before that.
And Jadavius White was able to come back.
And he, and he's playing well.
He's playing well again this year.
So Trayvon is young.
Obviously with technology,
the way they've had now,
I think he'll be fine.
He'll be able to come back
and pick up right where he left off.
Right.
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podcasts. Justin Fields believes what's causing him to overthink the game and be robotic is coaching.
It happens.
Do you like what he said?
I like the message, but the delivery was wrong.
The delivery of the message and what he were trying to portray and get across,
and then come off right because he didn't know how to say it the right way.
Because he makes it seem like he's playing bad because of the coaching.
What the coaches are doing for people that are watching and listening,
if you played the game, especially at a position as important as quarterback,
at time, they can overcoach you.
And when you overcoach a player, the first thing they do when they get into,
to a game, they're not playing fast and free.
Mentally, you got to be playing fast and free because you ain't got time to be thinking.
But if you overcoach, you get in there and you second guess yourself all the time.
You second guess yourself all the time instead of just playing and reading and reacting.
And that can happen.
It can happen.
I hope, and I hope that's the case.
I hope this isn't a case where Justin Fields is trying to show that I can be a pocket
passing.
Because if you think about it, Ocho, what we see from Justin Fields now, we never saw it, Ohio State.
Right.
We didn't see these kind of legs.
Right.
He was a pocket.
Yes, he could throw the ball outside of the pocket, but most of its plays happen with him throwing the ball from the pocket.
So we didn't see this side of Justin Fields.
So I hope it's not a case because sometimes guys like, I'm going to show you.
No, win the game.
Show me later.
I don't need you to show me.
You ain't got to prove to me.
This is the thing about it is he can be a pocket passer
because he has a great repertoire of weapons to throw to.
They just got DJ Moore.
I don't know about a repertoire.
I don't know.
Claypool.
Chase Claypool.
Chase, all Chase need, a little confidence.
Just a little confident.
Get me the ball, get him going.
That's it.
If you can touch the ball early, I'm telling you,
you got to keep the players.
in the game.
The boy,
man,
Chase could play,
man,
I'm telling you.
Ocho,
let me ask you a question.
What if one of your teammates,
one of your
wire receiver teammates,
yeah,
say,
we know we expect more
out of Ocho.
Ocho knows we expect
more out of him.
How would you have felt
if one of your teammates
had said that about you?
That's what DJ Moore said.
They had a talk with this man.
Right.
You tell me,
you're making,
10, 12, $13 million a year
and I got to give you a PIP talk.
Sometimes that's all you need.
Sometimes all you need is a little push,
a little pick me up.
And it got to come from people that's closest to you.
That's like me being your friend.
That's like me being your friend.
That's the problem when you have an entourage.
Wait, wait a minute, let me finish.
And you have an entourage and you got a bunch of yes men around you,
you need somebody that's going to tell you the truth.
Instead of being, yeah, you're doing okay.
No, DJ Moore needed to say what he said.
All Chase Claypool need is a little confidence, just a little bit.
Because you know what happened when you get a little bit of confidence?
You'll continue to build on that.
All you need is a little foundation and something to build off up,
I guarantee you he going to be all right.
Let him test the ball early and let him work.
I mean, he should have, I mean, didn't you get an indication?
Pittsburgh moved on from you?
Well, there was a reason.
I think that was more so internal.
It was not, it had nothing to do with his actual plate.
He's a good.
You got to get him the ball
and order for him to produce.
You can't produce without the ball.
You can't produce without the ball.
Oh, Cho.
Justin Field has Chase Playpool,
Darnell Mooney, and DJ Moore.
That is enough to get jiggie.
My grandma could play quarterback for the beds
and get jiggied with the boys.
I'm telling you, man, listen to me.
I got faith in them.
I get that.
But here's the thing.
Sometimes, you know, you as a quarterback,
you try to be something that you're,
not ready to be just yet.
And you try to prove to the world
that I can be a pocket passer.
You know, when everybody used to want to be
Peyton Manning, everybody wanted to be Tom Brady
or Drew Reeves to stand there.
But now these linemen are gotten so big,
so fast, so strong.
You need mobility.
You need to be able to not only throw the ball
from the pocket, but you need to be able to escape
the pocket, throw on the move,
and get first downs.
Well, we know his legs are more than adequate.
Right.
but he has to be a better throw of the football.
You're like,
you're,
as a quarterback,
you're not going to run a team to a championship.
This isn't 80s football.
Right.
This is a 90s college football where,
you know,
Oklahoma and Nebraska had those running quarterbacks
and they can run you to a national championship.
Those days are over.
But I have a question, though.
I have a question.
I have a question.
Justin Field last year showed us he can use his legs.
Justin Field.
He showed us.
He showed us.
He showed.
He showed you he showed you
could get the number one overall draft pick.
Right.
Do you realize the Chicago Bears had the number one overall draft pick
with Justin Fields showing you what he could do with those legs?
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
So what you're telling me?
At Ohio State.
It looked good.
At Ohio State, he showed you can also be a pocket passer.
Yes.
You don't want to be a run quarterback first.
If you know you can throw from the pocket, then do just that.
I don't want to be a lot.
Unless you have to run.
The first thing was, the first thing going to hit him with,
he's not a pocket passer.
Oh, all he wants to do is run with the ball.
Why?
Show him you could do both.
Because if you can do both,
if you can be a dual threat,
it makes that much more difficult
for all defensive coordinators to deal with you.
To think about it,
we didn't know Patrick Mahomes could run
until the playoffs when he took off against,
remember he had those runs against Tennessee
and he had to run against Houston.
People didn't even know Patrick.
I didn't know Patrick Mahomes could run like that.
And then all of a sudden, like, hold on.
We got to respect his man leg.
And last year, it was that run at the end.
Remember that run against Philly in the Super Bowl?
He took off for 25 yards on Joe.
Right up the middle.
Right up the middle.
So now we're starting to see.
But what people fear most is this, this arm.
Now you got to respect his legs.
And so I think that's the next step for Justin Fields.
is to make people respect his leg, but fear his arm.
Right now they fear his legs,
and they have little to zero respect for his arm.
I think it's going to come.
Again, it's only week two.
It's only week two, but I understand his frustrations,
especially with the comments that he made, again,
the message wasn't portrayed,
it wasn't delivered the right way,
so a lot of people that are casual
when he's just football fan from the outside watching,
probably thought it's like pointing fingers
or saying, or taking jab that his coached,
but that's not what he was doing.
The simple fact of the matter is, let's simplify things.
You don't have to complicate everything.
You don't have to complicate and overcoach.
That's all it is.
And I think once he's playing freely, and he's playing freely,
you're at your best when you're playing free and you're not thinking.
Because you don't got time to think.
You don't got time to think.
Ocho, if DJ Moore says that,
if a linebacker says that,
you know as a quarterback,
everything you say
get split apart,
dissected,
and regurgitated.
So basically,
you've got to be buttoned up
to the teeth.
Right.
Everything.
I mean, if you just give out of that,
that's the thing,
look at,
I'm sure there's a lot of times,
Tom Brady didn't believe
anything that he was telling,
but he understood
the ramifications of what he said.
Yeah.
A Peyton Manning or Drew Reeves
or some of these other quarterbacks,
you've got to understand
When you play that, when you play the quarterback position,
not only must you be a good quarterback,
you must be a politician.
Yeah.
Because you got the lie.
All the answers.
All the answers.
All the answer is politically correct.
All of them.
You got a lie.
Oh, I'm going to do all of this.
I make sure, I'm going to make sure everybody,
every, I'm going to all the unemployment.
Right.
I'm going to fix all the roads and bridges.
And then when you get off and you don't do none of that.
At all.
As a quarterback, oh, man, I got, we got the best coaches.
Right.
We got 53 of the best.
Man, them coach.
we got right now, they shouldn't be in high school coaching.
But you think that, but you don't say that.
Because everything that you get says gets magnified because of the position that you play.
But there's one thing that can cure all that.
They get one thing that can cure everything they said, a W.
Win.
Yeah, you got W.
Everything, a W.
Everything is only magnified because they're losing.
That's it.
Ocho.
That's it.
Chicago ain't won a whole lot of games in a while, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
but they can turn around.
You know why they can turn around?
Because they got Justin Fields.
They picked him high for a reason.
They picked him high for a reason.
Again, I'm going back to what I said about the Giants.
Understand your player's strengths and your players' weaknesses.
The coach's, the coach's staff, the head coach,
they understand Justin Field's strengths because he showed you what he can do in college.
So why not take me doing the college and just implement it?
In today's, instead of just saying, okay, this is my offense,
we're going to run my offense
instead of predicating the offense
on what he does well.
It's really easy.
There's no need to complicate everything.
True.
He definitely needs to do some of the,
they need to come up with a scheme.
But you know the thing,
you know, we've gotten away from what the bears.
When you think of the Chicago Bears,
what do you think about what you're?
Defense.
Defense.
They got nothing.
Yeah.
They got no defense.
That's not their identity.
That's not their identity.
That ain't the identity, not no more.
This ain't 85?
The middle linebacker was started by them.
Bill George and Dick Buckus and Mike Singletary and Ernest.
Yeah.
Yeah. And all the defensive line, I mean, you know, Richard Dent and McMichael and
Dan Hampton and all those guys.
William Perry?
You think of, yeah, you think a defense.
The monsters of the midway.
Yeah.
And now they defense, who, cream puffs off.
And listen, matter of fact, if you take the 85, the 85 bed defense and you put them
out there with them running gun boards and them,
RPO boys in today's game,
and they'd be running their,
he had to be spinning.
It has to be spinning.
It's too much.
Too much.
But here's the thing, though.
They're not going to let you play football like that.
Because all the, see, the thing back then,
it was about intimidation.
Oh, yeah.
The football, football at its premise is about intimidate.
Right.
It's by trying to break another man's wheel.
Yeah. Yeah.
All I need, all I need, you run one slant.
And Mike Singletary was trying to make sure that when you ran that
slant in the first quarter.
Your kids felt it.
You refused to do it again in the third and fourth quarter.
But you can't do that no more.
That's the thing.
You can't get like that.
You can't intimidate nobody no more.
You can't.
So that's why think about it.
It used to be a badge of honor.
Yeah.
Run a slant route.
Oh, yeah.
Every bill, Jerry and Harry will run a three steps land.
Boy, it used to, they wouldn't let you.
Listen.
Listen, you got to keep your head.
You had to keep your head on a swivel.
back then. Can you imagine
Steve Atwater,
or Ronnie Lott,
Rodney Harrison? Man.
Oh, man. Wait a minute. Hold on. I got another one.
Remember Donovan Darius?
Yeah. Yeah.
Man, he's coming to the party.
He coming down, he's coming downhill to the party.
I don't want no part of that.
I don't want no part of that. Uh-uh.
So, so they've taken that
intimidation back up. So, you know,
yeah. I mean,
guys running there and catch the slant,
they jump up in.
Getting pretty, doing the first down.
Yeah.
Yeah, all right.
They're guys doing another day.
Because you might do first down,
but you had to adjust your head.
Pull the grass up out,
pull the grass up out your face mask.
You're exactly right.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The game, Colorado on the road versus Oregon.
The Ducks,
the number two scoring offense,
led by Bow Nicks,
what's your expectation for the Buffalo's
on the number 10 team in the country,
Colorado ranked number 19.
Yeah.
What are your expectations?
It's going to be a big test.
It's going to be a big test for Prime.
It's going to be a big test for that offense.
It's going to be a big test for that defense.
I'm like Prime.
I believe.
Right.
I believe.
I don't know what's going to happen.
I'm not sure what the game plan is going to be.
The skill position on both sides of the ball,
whether it's Oregon or whether it's,
Colorado, the skill positions are equal on both sides of the ball, even though Travis Hunter is
out.
I think the difference in the game would probably be the interior.
It would probably be the interior.
The O line and D line is what separates the two.
Other than that, I'm hoping for a good game.
I'm hoping for a close game.
I'm not sure how long that Colorado Buffalo's defense can keep Bo Nix and that offense
in check and how we all should do it and Horn and those and those fellas.
can continue to score and keep up with the high-octane offense that the ducks do have.
But I'm really looking forward to a great game.
And again, because I love Prime and everything that he's doing
and what he's been able to do in such a short amount of time in Colorado
with so many people doubting him, I'm pulling for them boys to pull off on what I consider an upset.
Well, everybody would consider upset being that I'm sure the ducks are favored.
They're 21-point dogs.
Okay.
So it'll be a huge upset.
Maybe the up season does far.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
I think the thing is for Colorado, they're going to have to score points.
Yeah.
I don't think, I don't know if their defense we'll see.
But I think they're going to have, because we saw them give up 42.
We saw them give up, what, 30 plus last week.
So the defense is not quite what Coach Prime would expect.
And so I think Shadour and that offense is going to probably need to score somewhere
probably be 35, 42 points in order to have a chance.
to win this game.
Right.
Or at least the being contention to make it something close towards the end.
Right.
The fact that Colorado State put up, what, what, 35?
What 35?
I think so.
Something like that.
And obviously, the Ducks offense is much more high power than they are.
No disrespect to Colorado State.
But, I mean, it's just, it's facts.
It's just what it is.
And Bo, Bo, Bill Nick's going to drop back.
He's going to sling it.
He going to run when he needs.
need the run. And he's another dude.
Yeah, he's another dude, Red quarterback that's extremely dangerous.
Yes. He's a little, he's more athletic than you think.
Because remember he was a, what, a two year start at Auburn? Maybe a three year start at
Auburn. I think he stayed an extra year because of COVID. Right. But he has, he's, he's very,
very athletic. Oh, Joe, man, did you see your boy go viral last night?
Who that?
Yeah. Yeah. Matter of fact, not only listen, not.
only did you go viral, you really, you think you slick.
Because I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna tell you, man, don't, don't play on my top.
You know, you ain't slick.
I know what you're doing.
I know, listen, that little game, that little game, you and, you and Ms. Gomez played,
you think you slick.
That shit, hey, you think you slick.
Hey, I know what you try to do.
I know what you try to do.
You valet, right?
Will you valet in L.A.?
Do you, do you have to call and tell him to bring your car?
Or you just hand your ticket
once you get outside.
At some places you can call.
Right.
And they'll have your, when you come out,
they'll have your car ready.
But that wasn't a place like that last night.
Okay, so I'm going to tell you what happened.
I'm going to tell you what happened.
You and Ms. Gomez was on a date.
And you left a little earlier.
And the whole plan is, okay, I'm going to leave first.
And then when you're ready and you feel I've already left
and I've gotten my car,
then you come on out after me so nobody knows what's going on.
So you think you slick.
Listen, I would try and hook here.
I would try to hook here with somebody.
and you ain't even tell me
you and Selena Gomez
has something gone.
Man, Selena Gomez
young enough to be my daughter.
Or damn near my granddaughter,
man.
Wait, I don't, I don't,
listen, my grandma told me,
my grandma told me I never forget
when I was in kindergarten
and I was trying to talk to this girl
that was in the third grade.
My grandma told me,
baby, go for what you know
because age is nothing but a number.
Well, I got you,
age is nothing but a number.
I got too many numbers.
I got too many numbers
in my age
for some Selena Goldbeard.
And trust me, you ain't got a lot of me.
I already know the place.
I already know the play.
It chest not checkers.
What you're going to do?
You're going to deny to me.
You don't have the lie to me.
I can see it in your face.
I see it in your eyes.
Let me tell you how I would have done it.
If I was out with a celebrity,
out of row, I'd have got my car and rolled up, ma'am, did you request an Uber?
And told her to get in the back.
You know what I'm saying?
And then we get down the road.
She hopped in the front.
That's not out of place it off.
You see I did that old child.
Yeah.
I like that.
I'm slick with it.
That's smooth.
That's smooth.
You know, you can't be slick to a can of oil.
Yeah.
I was slick.
Talk to you.
I hear you.
I hear you, but you ain't fooling me.
I know you're trying to laugh at off.
You're trying to give me different analogies.
No, real talk.
But I know the play.
Promise God.
I didn't, because I was talking to the proper.
I didn't know.
I saw the, when I got there, I saw like one or two proper rots.
But, you know, everything was cool.
And then so I think, honest, honestly goodness.
I think she's,
saw me leave and then her team told her
her say, well, this would be our opportunity
because they'll probably get him. Right. And so
I was talking. Right. And then when she
came out behind me, I looked. Right.
But I really didn't, I really, I know
who she is, but I really didn't like,
I didn't really, you know, really,
because honestly, yeah, had I know, if I
known it was her. You had got a picture. I said, ma'am.
You got a picture?
You got a picture. When I would, I would.
I said, excuse me, ma'am. Can I, can I take a picture?
Right, right, right, right. I sure would.
I just said, out of ask her,
as I possibly because you got it.
You're a fan of Selena Gomez?
I don't mean, I don't really know what she does.
You know one of us. You don't know what Selena Gomez do.
I know she's a singer, but I can name one of a song.
Name one of our songs.
I could name, I rarely can name her.
Hell, I found out this morning it was Selena Gomez.
Hell, what hell, you mean name a song.
Hell, I can barely name her.
Wait.
I know what, I mean, she got 400 million IG followers.
She's one of a couple of people.
So, Christiana Ronald.
Her, messy, I think the younger Jenna,
Collie Jenna got 400,000, 400 million.
How you don't know, how you, how you, how you,
how you don't know, how you don't know, how you don't know the song,
Love You to Love Me?
The heart wants what it wants.
No.
Same old love.
No.
I know the sayings.
I don't know his own.
She got a song with my cousin.
Who your cousin, don't you?
A.Sat Rocky.
No, no, listen.
That, man, you got to be kidding.
You became an Asob Rocky.
That's my cousin for real.
My grandma and his grandma is sisters.
Why would I sit here in life, man?
Man, that's what you do.
No.
First of all, you and Aesap Rockett.
He will tell you, man, he will tell you my grandma and his grandma's sisters, man.
I'm telling you, he did a song with Sivina Gomez called Good for You.
I'm closer kin to a rock wilder than you and A.
say I'm rocking. Oh my God.
Why?
You know what I'm saying? I'll close a kid to a German shepherd.
Then you and they say I'm rocking. You need to stop him.
Why every time I say something? You always think I'm playing. I'm not joking.
He is kin to me, bro. He's kin to me. I promise you. I'm not playing. I'm serious.
I'm serious.
Okay. Watch close. Why close me? I just have to take my glass off.
Watch my eyes. To the left, for the right, round and round.
Not what I did for you with your...
Like, no, I'm serious.
No, that's my cudd.
That's my cuss.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Don't tell nobody of that.
Oh, my goodness.
You know, a lie I don't care who tell it.
I know they don't.
That's why I'm not lying to you, man.
Not this time.
Not this time.
Why you...
Just because that man,
that man got Rihanna.
No, they ain't got to do it.
They ain't got to do it.
They ain't got to do it.
Yeah.
You ain't never heard you said that car.
I ain't ever heard you said cull before?
What you mean, man?
They ain't called.
That about a cah.
I mean, I mean, we, dude, we got pictures together.
We was adolescents.
What did you talk about, man?
I just can't come up.
You ain't got no bitch.
That man don't know you.
Oh, now he, okay.
All right.
Don't worry about it.
I let him, I let him come out after, after, after, after, after this come out.
I let him come out and in, man.
What, but I got to laugh for him, man?
You know, you know who my cousin is?
Who?
Who?
Drake.
Drake?
Drake, who?
Drake, who?
Drake London?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
See, what happened?
What happened?
What happened?
My great grandma.
And his great, great grandma was free.
They were play sisters.
See, I'm not.
So we just matriculated that down on with us.
I'm not playing around, though.
My grandma and his grandma, they're sisters.
Why do you think we look alike?
I just ain't got no help.
That just ain't got no help.
I mean, hey, man, we be damn their twins.
We damn their twins.
Look at me from the side.
You see here?
You look like a mug shop from where I'm standing right now.
Huh?
What'd you do?
What'd you swipe, old lady perks?
Nah, I'm just telling you, you got,
you got to look at me from a certain camera angle.
I mean, me and A.S. I'm looking at you crazy.
God, I'm looking at you like everybody else going to be looking at you
what the head is.
Trust me. Matter of fact, when Aesap sees this,
he going to sing your tweet like, man, yeah, that's my, that's my cousin.
Oh, no, let me get back to, let me,
Miss Gomez, Selena Gomez, I know you don't know who I am.
She's going to see this. She's going to see this. Shoot a shot.
Shoot a shot.
I ain't shoot no shot. I didn't shoot no shot. I didn't want to pitch.
I don't shoot no shot.
What I don't do with somebody, I don't do with somebody 25?
Are she 25?
Yeah.
Okay.
I ain't, I ain't know.
I ain't know.
I'm just asking.
I'm just asking.
Bro.
I'm just asking.
I promise you,
I drank two gallons of water a day.
I ain't thirsty.
I'm good.
I'm good.
You ain't good.
You ain't good.
Listen, you can see,
you can say in food the rest of the people,
you ain't good.
You ain't, you ain't good.
You ain't good.
Yeah, your glass is crooked.
Your glass is crooked.
Yeah, they crooked.
See?
See, a woman, a woman,
if you had a woman,
she would have been able to tell you a glass is crooked.
Because it's certain things.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
My staff is here tonight telling me they're crooked.
It's certain things.
I think my head crooked.
It's certain things you can't see.
A woman can.
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I don't care which I'll say it.
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I have a question.
I have a question.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
You got a house, right?
You got a house, right?
I got two of them.
Why?
Listen to me.
You know what?
You got a house,
but you ain't got a home.
Because your house ain't
will never be a home
unless you got a woman
to put a touch on it.
Because that's what you need.
I'm telling you,
everything in your life
would not be fulfilled
until you get a woman in your life.
You got purpose.
Listen to me,
you got purpose.
You got purpose, right?
You know, you're on life.
You got a purpose in life, right?
Yes.
You know, God created Adam.
And when God created Adam,
there was an Eve, right?
Listen to me.
Stay with me, now.
Let me preach, now.
Who bit the apple?
Okay.
Adam did.
Only because Eid told him.
All right.
So right now.
It wasn't because if Eve had Ead eating the apple, nothing would have happened.
Wait.
Adam bit the apple because who said to bite it?
Eve.
And in the Bible it says,
order my steps in buying way which,
when I find a woman,
what I want my couple runneth over with.
Do you have a woman right now?
No.
Listen to me. Stay with me. Let me finish. Let me finish preaching.
I want my pockets run it over.
They're going to run it over. Your pocket's going to run it over because he who findeth a wife
find is the good thing.
Find problems. Ain't no problems. The ones you're picking is the problem. You don't listen.
Yeah. And that's the problem. That's one of the problems right there. You're stuck in your
ways. Why? Why? I mean, man. I'm telling you're not going to reach the pinnacle of the dreams
that you want unless you find the right woman to help you get there.
I'm telling you, listen to me.
As I was growing up, I can, I don't know if I had dreams of being married.
I don't know.
I didn't say nothing about that.
You didn't say you had to get married.
I didn't get the shack.
My grandma don't want me to, didn't want me to shack.
Oh, God.
Like, you just, you're hardheaded.
And so whoever's going to have to enter into a cohabitation agreement.
You know what cohabitation agreements are?
I'm telling you, you can change, you got to listen to somebody.
I don't know.
I'm listening.
You know, I listen to my financial guy.
I listen to my lawyer.
You know, you know what?
Why about thinking?
I need to be your financial guy.
Not the person you're dealing with because your ass wouldn't be flying no goddamn private
ass and you wouldn't be eating at them goddamn rich-ass-star restaurants
and goddamn Hollywood with slaves coming in and out of.
Ocho, don't you think something wrong that the person that works the hardest for the money
spends the least of it?
Think about that.
Why should I work the hardest
and spend the least of my money?
Because I promise you,
I already know.
I already told my kids
my money and my last breath
is going to run out at the same time.
So y'all sit around with us.
Hey, don't do my babies like that.
Y'all don't do, don't do my babies like that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.
I'm going to get you right.
Ocho. I'm going to get you right.
Ocho.
Yeah.
Look at this, Ocho.
Can you see this?
Even the ball louis at a time.
You know what they're the ball loo?
They don't do nothing.
Somebody give to you that?
No, no, no worry about it.
I bought it.
Hey, let me, speaking of, speaking of basketball,
I can't wait the basketball season get here.
And I hope we still are going because I have some great basketball stories and great basketball.
Who your team?
I'm from Miami.
I'm a heat fan.
I'm a heat fan.
We're going to get Damien Lilla, too.
Oh, I wasn't supposed to say that.
bad. You can say it.
My bad, my bad. I hope you do get it. No, I'm
telling you. I'm telling you coming, though.
Selena 31. Selena 31.
Oh, yeah, you're good. You good.
You could shoot. You can shoot.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen.
But I ain't shot a basketball in 35 years. I'm definitely
shooting no shot at no 30. Would you? How old are you?
55. You want somebody, oh, you want somebody your age?
You want somebody. Are you, are you?
I don't want no, I'm good. What part of my good? What part of my
You are you not good.
You don't have to lie to me.
Shannie, you're not good.
I can see it in your face.
You want to be young?
You want to stay young.
You see hungry.
They say, I'm trying to hear you out.
They say you only as young as the woman you feel.
Man, you.
I feel 33, 34.
Listen.
I'm, listen, I can, I, basketball.
A, LeBron, your boy, huh?
Why you keep, why you keep, first of all, people keep asking me, man,
man, Ocho really loves.
you man, he tried to hook it up.
Yeah. I'm going to get you right.
I'm going to get you right. I'm going to get you right.
I'm right. I'm going to get you right. What makes you think I'm missing something in my life?
Because I can tell by the look on your face. I can tell. I know you need. I mean,
I'm a little sleep deprived. You have a house, but it's not a home. You need a woman. You need
guidance. You need assistance. We all need it in life. And you being stubborn. You're not going
reach where you want to get to without the help and the touch of a woman.
Trust me.
You can have as many assistance as you want.
You can fly as many private jets as you want.
You can eat as many five-star meals as you want.
Life ain't going to be complete until you find that one.
And I'm going to make sure you get it.
I'm going to make sure you get it.
I'm good.
Come hell of high water.
You're going to get it.
I got you.
Well, it ain't going to rain for about 20 years then because there ain't been to be no
high water.
You trust me, I got you.
Man, where's my baby at?
I don't want you to have me.
You lucky, you lucky.
You need a friend like me.
You need a friend like me.
You need a friend like me.
You got somebody because I ain't never seen her.
I'm beginning to doubt whether you got somebody.
What you mean?
I ain't never seen to.
Oh, what you mean?
Google work?
What part?
Google.
Google work?
No.
When you look up stats, you use Google, don't you?
When you look up stats, you use Google, don't you?
No.
Because I already know the stance.
I already know the stands.
Where you're a woman at right now?
Huh?
Tell her come down there.
Tell her come down there right now.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
Don't play at me.
I got me somebody.
Don't do that.
Don't play with my talk.
Shoot, I do this.
Let me see what she is.
I mean, you look at around like you're about to get wrong.
Now, it's 1237.
She ain't even home.
You know how that means.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's rough, it's rough.
Yeah, yeah, I already know.
You look at it right.
It's all right.
It's all right.
She know a home at, though.
She know a home at.
She knows, she knows, she knows, she know a home at.
What's your latest name?
Huh?
What's your latest name?
Sherell.
Yeah, Sherey, you see that smile?
You see that smile?
The singer?
You see.
You told her the singer?
I know a singer.
No, no, not, not, not that one.
But Sherell.
Sherell and Ryan on it?
No.
I know you're talking about.
No.
No.
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.
You see that smile on my face when I said it.
That's how I want you.
That's how I want you.
I got a smile on my face.
No, that ain't a, listen, that's that mask with a smile and behind, you're crying.
I'm telling you, crying.
I'm telling you, crying.
I'm going to get you right, though.
Trust me.
Hey, hey, give it a couple of more years.
I'm going to be crying on the Bugatti.
Nah, come on, man.
Don't do that.
You don't need that.
You don't need that.
What?
Don't, you don't need that?
Don't you know,
Bogat?
No, man.
No, no, no, no, no.
What I need?
What I need?
What kind of car I need?
Let me say, you 55.
Get you a Lincoln.
Get your Lincoln.
A Lincoln?
What?
Town car.
Yeah, get you a Lincoln.
Man, I wish you out.
You're going through a midlife crisis.
You're going through a midlife crisis.
That's what it is.
Ocho.
You're going through midlife crisis.
Ocho.
You know, I'm going to get a BMW.
That's what I'm going to get.
A what? A BMW.
No, that's, no, that's like in your 40s.
That's me. That's in your 40s. That's when you're in 40s.
55, you got to get a car that goes with your age.
Since you complain about women being a certain age, you can't talk to them.
You can't be 55 and no Bugatti, man.
What are you doing?
I said, I ain't said I'm getting no Bugatti.
You just said, I'm getting a watch a call.
Or what?
I'm getting a BMW.
Hey, another BMW.
Get the I three.
I'm going to get an I seven.
No, get the I-3.
Seven.
Seven is bigger than a three.
No, you don't need no big-ass.
You don't need no big-ass I-7, man.
Get you efficient.
You a hater.
I drive a smart car.
I've been driving my smart cars since 2006.
I don't need all that big stuff.
Because let me tell you something.
I need it.
No, you don't.
You Shannon Sharp.
You Shannon Sharp.
They don't Googled how much you make.
You ain't got to do nothing to stunt no more.
No.
You ain't got to do nothing.
just be you.
But I also, that's, that's why I drive it a BMW because I'm not trying to, I'm not trying
to devalue myself.
Oh, I don't want nobody to think I'm trying to show somebody up.
I worked hard.
I'm going to get that.
Nah, you get you a BMW I three because you don't have to compensate for nothing else.
You that boy.
I'm giving you the confidence you need.
You that boy.
You that, you that, you that, I've been there.
I can't even say a word, but yeah.
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a ninja in a BMW.
you. I three. I three. Save, save, save your money. Say you, come on, man.
Save them. Hold on. I'm saving my money for who? Huh? I'm saving my money for who?
A rainy day. A rainy day. You don't know what might happen. You don't know what emergency might
occur. Family might need you. Just something. I know you're making a grip. I know you're making a grip
right now. You never know what might happen. Hold on. I prepare for a rainy day. Okay. I'm prepared.
Keep preparing because God said, can I, can I give you another scripture?
What is?
I know, I ain't going to take it down.
I don't preach enough tonight.
Wait, hold on.
She answered the phone.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I know.
I look at you.
Hold on.
Now you running.
She ain't out of the ball.
I just thought about something.
Because I, I, it just hit me.
I'm like, wait a minute.
It's 12.
It's 12.
Nah, she just ain't answered.
I don't know.
Let me tighten up.
I know she ain't.
She's busy.
God, then you don't play at me now.
Shoot, it's 1242.
Normally I'll be sleep.
Like, you know, I'd be sleep right now, so.
Man, she ain't answered again.
Oh, it's rough out here, man.
Oh, Lord, she ain't, she answered again.
Man, it's rough out here, man.
I don't know.
I don't know what to do.
You got a sad face.
I don't know.
Go upstairs and cry in your pillow.
Tell me what about me.
No, I ain't, whatever.
Why you do me like that?
No, what I'm gonna cry for?
I'm gonna go get on the game and play FIFA.
Banda new FIFA out.
You play FIFA?
E-A-F-C.
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.
Nah, I'm gonna go up here and play eyes closed.
You all played that game?
Nah.
It's called Lay Your Head and Appealing and Close your eyes.
Uh-uh, uh-uh.
I need another topic because I don't feel like getting off.
We could have like an extended version.
We could have an extended version.
How long we've been going?
How long we've been going so far?
How long we've been going?
Hour.
Hour.
That's it?
Yeah.
Let me get another 30 minute.
Give me another 30 minute.
I'm feeling good night.
I got a flight.
I got a flight next night and tomorrow.
Yeah, I tell you what, you better say some of that for Sunday.
Sonny, we got.
Hold on.
How did you find out that I was on TMZ with Selena Go, Man?
Oh, yeah, Twitter.
Twitter told me.
Twitter was like,
Boy, look at your boy.
And I look, as soon as I seen it, I seen the play,
I was like, yeah, they think they slick.
They think they're slick.
And then you're going to tell my, oh, man, they did on TMZ did wrong.
No, they didn't.
Hold on.
There she goes right.
There she go right here.
Let me show you, let me show you how you put them in check.
Watch this.
Take notes.
Hey, baby.
Hello?
Hello?
Hello?
No, no, no, no.
Why, you told me you.
Hello?
Hey, listen, y'all still filming?
Hey, see? Hey, come here, get a, all right, let me, let me talk there for a minute. Excuse me, y'all. Hey, hey, don't do that. Don't do that. I call your phone twice. Now, see, that's why I won't sign the goddamn pre-nup. That's what I'm talking about. Shit like that.
Don't say, don't sign it. Don't sign no pre-dub, Sherell. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Shirel, don't sign, make him sign that pre-nup. We won't pre-nup. We won't pre-nup. We won't pre-nup.
I forgot. I forgot you was filming.
My bad, my bad, my bad.
I'm team Shereo.
All right.
Wait, I can't say I love you.
I got company watching, baby.
Don't do that.
I'm saying.
Say it.
Oh, he and pet.
Come on.
He hit pet.
Come on.
It's people watching.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Do kiss and faces.
Do kiss and faces.
Hey.
Oh, Beck, good.
Oh, she said.
Do it right here.
Oh, yeah.
Look at the road.
Look at you.
Look at you.
Look at you all to be a shame of your sick.
Hey, come on, dude.
Don't do.
Don't embarrass me like that, baby.
Hey, you know how I feel, though.
You know how I feel.
On gang.
Go ahead do it.
On gang, twin.
All right.
Hey, go ahead and do this, Ocho.
Do this right here.
Come on, don't do that.
Don't do that.
Come on.
Come on, you're making me blush.
Don't do that.
Oh, my goodness.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Hey, I'm blushed.
Weak in the palm.
This man's so weak right here.
He and peck.
I thought you were tough.
Hey.
Hey, man, you know, I'm a thug.
Man, I don't really, I don't really, I don't really,
I don't really.
I don't really move like that in public.
You feel me?
Yeah, you do.
I like to show that side behind closed doors.
You probably, you, you, you, you're big on PDA.
What PDA stand for?
Public, public?
Display of a, yeah, public display of affection.
Oh, now I don't do that, man.
You would kill her to, yeah, you do.
I'm right, I didn't even kiss her yet.
You that type.
You're that tight.
Listen, I've been on her four years.
I didn't even give a kiss yet.
I know you're not.
Yeah, no.
No, no.
First.
What?
But she got her own.
Kiss.
Kiss who.
You got to earn this.
You got to earn.
You got to pay for this.
You can't hear what I said.
We've been together.
We've been together four years.
I ain't even kiss her yet.
I don't play that.
You got to earn that.
Stop playing with me, man.
Yeah.
That's how you got to be.
Huh?
I look good.
Man, I'm happy for you.
You do seem happy, Ocho.
I am.
Hey, listen, I'm in a great space.
I'm in a great space.
I'm not saying,
I'm perfect and nobody is.
But the fact that I'm striving to be
based on what's on my hip,
man, that shit is a great feeling, man.
That shit is a great feeling.
You know how you prepare for a game every Sunday?
Yeah.
And you know the time and the energy
and the hours that you put in
to prepare for that game so you can get the results
when it's time to go?
That's how I'm preparing, man.
I'm preparing like it's game time.
You feel me?
And progress is being made.
Progress is being made.
I'm in a great space.
I'm happy.
And I want that for you.
I want that for you.
And we're going to get it.
We're going to find.
That's my first time seeing your significant other.
Right.
And to use a football term, you outpunted your coverage.
Oh, she liked that, huh?
She looked good.
Don't you?
Listen, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, she wanted them.
She wanted them.
I got her.
She chased.
She jumped in my DM, too.
No, she didn't. No, she didn't.
Oh, no, that's a lie.
Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, let's rewind.
Let's rewind.
Because everything I say, you're telling me I'm lying.
First, I'm telling you ASAP is my cousin because my grandma and his grandma's sisters.
That's not a lie.
You need to know what you meant to say is that you're going to stop saying that AFAP.
You didn't meet ASAP as if you're going to stop telling me that ASAP.
Nah, you hear my smoke detector?
You can't hear it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I heard it.
I've been hearing it.
I ain't want to say that.
You need to get, you know when we growing up, we couldn't, we couldn't buy no doer sale
with no air raid.
He had to get that cat battery.
You remember that battery on the cat on it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Listen, a pack a 9-volt door-of-cell batteries right now, energized, a door-of-sell $20.
Yeah.
Who paying for that?
The devil is a lie.
Nope, that bitch will be.
That big is going to beep all day.
I ain't paying for that.
Man, battery is expensive.
as a hell. In this economy? In this
economy, I'm my spirit.
You think I'm going to buy
a pack of batteries for $24.
Actually, it's $24.78.
I've calculated the shit myself.
Not happening. You heard it. It just did it again.
I'm going to tell you. That's a
black household. We should be used to that.
I'm sure. I'm sure. I used to it.
You know, my grandfather
said, boy, be as cheap as you want to, but don't be cheap
to yourself. I ain't going to be cheap.
to me. I'm going to be cheap to myself.
I am and I'm a bless others.
Matter of fact, I want you start tipping the way I do.
I promise you.
I promise you.
I promise you.
Do me a favor.
I spend most of my money on the other people.
Now, I can assure you that.
Okay.
Now, I don't know a whole lot, but I know that factual.
Okay.
I like that.
I like that.
I want you to do my favor.
But the month of October, every time you eat out, I want you to tip the same way I do at restaurants.
I want you to give every waiter and server,
regardless of service,
tip them $1,000 every time.
Man, you're out your mind.
I want to...
I'm...
I go out. I go out.
That's a private jet flat from here to Atlanta.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't do that. Don't do that.
Don't do that.
You just said you get back.
And obviously the service industry,
the service industry doesn't make a livable wage.
That's a problem with America right now.
So I need you to get on,
to get on the train with me.
Every time you eat out of one of these nice establishments
or wherever you go, tip a thousand dollars every time.
I need you to promise me.
I tip according to service.
No, don't do that.
Let me ask you, let me ask you a question.
Let me tell you why.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
If you was catching 40 passes a year.
Yes, sir.
For 500 yards.
Yes, sir.
If the bingo's going to pay you the same,
if you're catching a hundred balls for 1,400 yards,
they base your pay on production, right?
I don't like that analogy.
So I'm going to base their tip on service.
I don't like that analogy.
Let me give it to you a little further.
Let me tell you why I tip 1,000, 1K, every way I go, no matter what, regardless of service,
eight being people in the world.
So if you work in the service industry, understand the number of personalities you've got to deal with,
the number of egos, rude people, people that feel that you should be at their beck and call.
Just, then people sending food back.
You've got to do, people in the service needs you have to deal with so much.
I just want to come in and make sure your day.
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
I'm not giving you no $1,000 when I order a burger medium with no wheat,
meat and bun and fries and ginger ale.
Yes, you can.
I'm not giving you, I'm not tipping no $1,000 for no $40 meal.
You can.
If you can, if you can fly private, you can tip $1,000 every time.
You can and you will.
Promise me the month of October you'll do it.
Please, I'm asking you.
I'm begging.
Oh, Joe.
Oh, Cho.
Come on money, bags.
I can.
Can is the ability to do something.
You're absolutely right.
I can.
but I will not.
I'm asking you, please, as my brother.
And the answer is no.
As, as my brother, regardless of their service.
No.
No.
As a matter of fact, I'm filing paper tomorrow to end our brother'ship.
You're getting out of this.
No.
I would do, I do what I normally do, I normally do 40 to 45% here.
Okay, okay, okay.
I like it.
I like it.
I mean, it's just, I just, I've always wanted to get.
give back. I mean, if it's somebody, if it's somebody I know, I do, if it's somebody I know they're
regular, because they know me. As soon as I sit down, they already bring, they're bringing me to
ginger rail. Right. They already, Mr. Sharp, the normal. Right. Oh, if you tell me the normal,
right, oh, you're good. You already know. Whatever the meal costs, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm,
I'm going to, I'm going to, you're stubborn. You stubborn, right? And you fight me on.
So there's two things. It's two things that's going to happen before December. I
guarantee you before December. Before December comes,
I'm going to find your woman. I'm going to win the lottery.
No, I'm going to find your woman.
And number two, I'm going to get you tipping
the way I do before December get here. I guarantee
you. I can guarantee you that.
I'm going to stand on that. I'm standing
on that. I'll tell you what.
If we're going to end on this, I'll tip the way you
do if you eat the way I do.
Eat what? What you eat?
Eat the way I do.
Now, you eat. Chicken, rice,
broccoli, fish,
I eat chicken.
I eat chicken at, I eat chicken at, I'm a Cuban spot.
I eat chicken breast.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
I do.
I eat chicken.
I eat rice.
No.
You eat like I eat.
You want me to tip like you.
Eat like I eat for a year.
What?
A year.
I ask you to tip for a month.
I asked for one month.
You talk about eating like a year.
Okay.
Eat like I eat like I eat for a month then.
Okay, bet.
I ain't going out to eat no more.
Oh, wait.
Hold on.
Wait.
I got you.
I got you.
You see how I did that.
You see I'll walk you into that trap.
Hold on.
We ain't got no more time, yeah, huh?
No, we're out of time.
All right.
All right.
She was just, she was just, she was just, she was just for to walk in.
I was going to tell about the girl we got, we got for you, but we'll wait until next time.
Well, no, I want you to tell me nothing.
And you know what, Ocho?
Huh.
I'll talk to you Sunday.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact, here.
You got in the closet space?
Who?
Hang this up.
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