The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Nightcap - 49ers survive Packers, Lamar goes off vs. Texans, Shay Shay makes SNL

Episode Date: January 21, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the San Francisco 49ers getting by the Green Bay Packers in the NFC Divisional Round, Lamar Jackson doing MVP things as the Baltimore Ravens beat CJ Stroud and the Houston Texans in the AFC, Antonio Pierce being named head coach of Las Vegas Raiders, Club Shay Shay getting parodied on SNL, Nikki Haley saying America "has never been a racist country," CeeDee Lamb's mom causing a stir, and much more! 4:15 - 49ers survive Packers 17:00 - Ravens handle Texans 36:15 - SNL parodied Club Shay Shay 56:15 - CeeDee's mom makes headlines 1:12:45 - Antonio Pierce hired as Raiders HC 1:31:00 - Unc makes a promise to Lamar & more! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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24-21. Heading in tonight, the 49ers was 0 and 30 under Kyle Shanahan when trailing by seven of more points in the fourth quarter. Not a bad time to end the street. What would you, what did you take away from the game, Mocho? I really enjoyed the game. I really enjoyed the game. I like the way Jordan Love played. I like the way the receivers played.

Aaron Jones played a very, very good game. The 49ers, the 49ers, rock purdy. Ed, I almost say Ed McAfrey. I'm going to say Ed McAfrey. Yeah. Krista McAfree, 17 carries. eight yards, two TDs. George Kittle was effective as well in the past game.

Debo Samuels, he went out. I think the game would have opened up a little bit more for the 49ers. I don't think it would have been as close as it was if they had Debo Samuels healthy. I think young brother has to learn to make business decisions and stop trying to be tough all the time. You don't have to do so much all the time. It's okay to go down. Other than that, they squeeze one out. They squeeze one out.

And I think barring the weather, barring the weather, I'm not saying it played a factor in why they did lose, but I think barring the weather, I think there would have been a pick six in that first half that Savage would have had on Brock Purdy that would have put that game out of reach damn there almost. And I think it was a field goal that the Packers also missed. That would have been 10 points right there on the board. And they would have won this game. Well, I look at it. I've told you time and time again. You kick field goals, you lose game. You score touchdowns, you win championship.

Right. Look at Green Bay last week what they did when they got into the red zone. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. Look at what they did this week. They turned the ball over on downs once and they settle for field goals. Right. That's the difference in the ball game. Even with those plays notwithstanding, Ocho, let's just say Savage does not catch the ball, which he didn't.

Let's just say they doesn't miss that field goal. They leave 21 points on the field. Right, right. So that's the difference in the ball game. kicking field goals, especially come playoff time, will get you beat. Scoring touchdowns, wins you games, win you championship. I like what Kyle Shanahan did. He took the ball out of purdy hand in the second half, especially in the fourth quarter,

and hand the ball off to Christian McCaffrey. You could tell the pressure was starting to get to him because he started to aiming the ball. Jennings climbed the ladder over the middle and made a hell of a catch. Brandon Ayute took one off his shoe tops in the rain. They were making outstanding catch because he started. started to feel it. And, and I've said this before, having played in games like this, Ocho, when you're the overwhelming favorite, the longer the team that you're supposed to be stays in the game, the more you start to feel like, damn, they ain't going away yet.

Yeah. Why they still play it so hard? Didn't they get the memo? We're the number one seed. Yeah. We're supposed to be up by 10, 14 points at this point in time. And you start, and all of sudden, they start getting more confidence. Confidence, yeah. Those young receivers from the Packers, there's something to behold. They're only going to get better because the lion's share of those guys are first and second year players. Give the 49ers credit.

They did what they needed to do. I think Jordan loved, he took some unnecessary risk. I don't think, I mean, hell, it seemed like if Greenlaw didn't pick it, the other, what's the guy, the middle linebacker, a Warner.

He was going to pick it. Yeah. Yeah, if he didn't pick it, Fred was going to pick it. But the first interception, he had the guy wide open. He threw it late. and behind him.

Right. So the guy tips it, Karam's and Greenlaw picks it. Yeah. But though, they're going to, probably not going to watch the film. You normally don't watch film the last game of the season.

Right. But the coaches are going to kick themselves, Ocho, because the Green Bay Packers could have easily won this ball game. Yeah. Most definitely. And the difference is they settle for field goals early. Last week they scored touchdowns and put the pack,

put the, uh, the Cowboys away. Today, the 49ers made them settle for field goals and it was able to come back and win the ball game 24, but give the pack of credit they're going to be back they're going to be back they're young they got guys under contract that receiving corps is under contract for a long period of time

they're going to probably look to do something with jordan love tie him up for the next five or six years you got to you got you got to yeah you got to get it out the way he had a phenomenal season he came on they they had a rough patch you know somewhere in the middle of the season yes but once they got into their groove and once they got going and jordan love confidence to kick in, man, he was money. He was money from that point on. Even tonight, outside of the two turnovers, he was, he was

efficient tonight. Yeah, he threw some good balls tonight. Like I said, there are the couple of them, you know, you can't. Sometimes it's okay to throw from a level platform. Right, right. You don't have to jump and throw everything. Every thing doesn't have to be up your back foot. Everything

doesn't have to be a heroic throw. And I think you have to learn, pick and choose those because the one, the first pick, threw that on his back foot also. It's almost look like he's trying to throw a no look. It's the fact that he has the arm strength. The fact that he has the arm strength and he can get away with certain things,

you know, from a mechanic standpoint as far as arm angles and what he can do, now the bad mechanics of, well, my arm is strong enough, I don't even have to set my feet to throw the ball. And sometimes that can creep in and hurt you. And you already know, you throw the ball late and behind somebody

over the middle of the field, they're going to get a hand on it. And it's going to pop it up in the air. And here come everybody to the, to the party rally. Yeah. And it's going to end up like what happened. Greenlaw ends up picking it off.

But I thought the Green, I thought the Packers acquitted themselves well. It also lets you know last week wasn't a flute. Because we've seen sometimes, Ocho, teams beat somebody that you didn't think they were going to beat. Right. And then they come out the following week and don't play nearly as well as they played the previous week.

Right. The Green Bay Packers are legit. I expect them to be back in the very near future. if next year, add a few pieces, but they're legit. Defense, I mean, offensively, with the skill position players that they have. Yeah. The wide receiver position, the tied in with Kraft and Musgrave. Yeah.

Aaron Jones, Dylan didn't play tonight. But I like, I think the running back was Simpson, or Wilson, excuse me, not Wilson. Excuse me, not Simpson, Wilson. I like their running back and Dobbs and Reed and Melton. those guys, Kristen Watson wasn't that active tonight, but they got a nice young nucleus. Yeah. And the Packers, the Packers are legit.

That quarterback is legit. Yeah. They're going to be the real deal. Obviously, that receiving core, I think, would be their identity. Obviously, from the offensive standpoint, that is their identity. Once they get Christian Watson to fix the issues that he's having with his hamstrings that cause him to miss so many games throughout the season. And then obviously,

Romeo Dobbs, man, he's the real deal. Yeah. Romeo Dobbs is the real deal. He's a route run extraordinary. Yeah. He's not. Hey, he said that by, hey, he's stopping on the die again. Everybody nice and saying.

Getting in and out. The funny thing about it is he reminds me of Devante Adams. They're not very many times. A receiver of that caliber goes to another team. You have someone replace him with the same type of DNA in him. He got that same type of wiggle, that same type of ability to create separation and do different things that others, others really came. He's the special receiver.

And he was exciting to watch. He was exciting to watch. The question is defensively, I like what they have defensively. The question is Jaya Alexander. What are they going to do with him? You know, they had a situation where it seemed like he wanted to be there, then he didn't want to be there. Right.

So they're going to have to get that situation resolved. Gunnickens, the general manager. Right. And so it's going to be very interesting to see. But I like the Packers, the quarterback, you said it, quarterback, you said it, the skill positions, bringing a few extra pieces, maybe a offensive lineman.

Because, you know, you didn't have probably one of your best offensive linemen in Bakhtiari. You didn't have him all year. Now, I'm not going to... Is his knee that bad? I'm just asking, is his knee that bad? They don't go in it several times. So the likelihood, if I'm the Packers,

I'm not counting on him to come back, although it would be a great welcome addition if he were to come back. But he's had three or four surgeries on that on that on that uh that torn ac towards aced try to come back and and they've gone into it again so uh i'm not counting on back he already come back it would be a welcome edition if he were were to come back but the packers are set the packers have everything they need to to to contend now you see the nFC uh the lions they're not going anywhere either no you look at the 49ers

they're they're core guys they're not going anywhere either right right Tampa excuse me they like Baker Mayfield Baker Mayfield has acquitted himself well he's played himself into a nice contract Right So he does get extended then

Oh yeah yeah well he was a free He only signed the one year deal if I'm not The state okay that that's right So yeah yeah obviously one question I mean you know we always talk about we always talk about the numbers So is Baker Mayfield one of those four year getting 30 million a year type quarterback? 40 he go 40

Daniel Jones See the thing is the floor is Daniel Jones 40 million. That's the floor. You see? That's the floor. Yes. Baker Mayfield is better than Daniel Jones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. So the floor.

The floor is 40 million. God damn. Yes. That's the floor. And then you think of the situation and the circumstance similar to that of the New York Giants. there was nobody else, so you didn't have a choice. You didn't have a choice but the pen because you had no other answer at the quarterback position. I think for the Bucks, the way Baker is played, obviously, with them winning a division.

They went nine and eight. I mean, the division in itself, it really wasn't that good, very, you know. But what Baker was able to do and getting them back to the playoffs after Brady being gone, I mean, it speaks for something. Yes. And now the question is, what are they going to do with Mike Evans? Mike Evans is a free agent. They always plan.

Are they going to franchise? Are they going franchising? or are they going to extend him, give him a long-term deal? That remains to be seen. Why would you wait? Why would you wait? There's nothing to wait for. Well, they already waited. I mean, obviously, you know how this business goes.

You hit 10 years, you know, 1,000-yard seasons, all 10 years in a row. But all of a sudden, now it's time to pay him based on the production that he's done. He's consistent. You know, you want, I mean, obviously as a receiver, you want to end your career with the team that you've always been with. But rarely does that happen. Rarely does it happen. And he ain't taking a home team discount. We're not doing that.

I mean, this game was really close tonight, Ocho. Green Bay had 20 first downs. 49ers had 19 first down. The pack was 7 to 13, which is very good on third down. 49ers was 10 or 16, 330 total yards to 356. 62 offensive play for the Packer, 64 for the 49ers. 30 minutes, a little over 30 minutes time of possession, a little under 30 minutes time of possession for the 40.

So when you look at the stats, the difference was one team when they got the ball into the red zone, they scored touchdown. The other team when they got the ball into the red zone, the field goals. Yeah. One team is moving on. The other team is going home. So that explains why what you saw. So the 49th Survivor scare beat the Packers 2421. The 49 is advanced to the NFC championship game to be played on their home field next week.

They take on the winner of the Detroit Lions or the Tampa Bay Bay. Buccaneers. They'll take on that winner. Who you got? Who you got? The lions look good, man. They look good. I mean, I kind of want the, I kind of want the lions. You're talking about tomorrow? Yeah, yeah. You talk about Lions bucks. Lions bucks you got. Man, I can't, I will, I, man, look, I want AG, Aaron Glenn to D-coordinated for the the Lions. The Lions. I'm going to take the Lions. I think the Lions is going to do it.

Okay. I think the Lions are going to do it. That bugs, the bugs deep is nice, man. They nice. But, man. the Lions have so many weapons. We'll get to that game in a minute. Okay, okay. The Ravens handled the Texas 3410. The Ravens look like the top seat, look like the top seed.

Yeah. Not the first two quarters. Yeah. Half time of the 10-10 ball game. Yeah. But they came out the second half and they dominated. Lamar Jackson was 16 or 22, 152 passing yards,

100 yards rush, 100 rush yards. He became the fifth player in NFL history to record two touchdown passes and two rushing touchdown in the same playoff game. Yeah. So the rabies look good. The rabies look good.

And it forced, look, the Texas came in with a game plan. We're going to, we're going to heat Lamar up. But whatever they came here, give Todd Monkey the offensive coordinator credit. Because he had the plan.

Whatever they came with, he was ready. They brought the Blitz, and they sneak heel out the same side. The blitz come. Lamar would dump it to him. They go one way. Here come Lamar coming out the backside.

Lamar was like, okay, one, two, three, nobody's open. He's gone. I'm gone. No indecision. He was decisive. He was determined.

And every, a guys may play. Zay, Flowers may play, Bateman. Odell didn't get a whole lot of opportunities, but every opportunity that came to him, he made the play, give those guys credit. Likely was unbelievable.

Jumping up snagging that ball. The Ravens look like the top seed in the AFC. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. I mean, the Ravens look good, but I want to give C.J. Stroudder's credit. I want to give CJ Stroud his credit, and I know you're going to see this,

well, you need to take a bow. You need to take a bow for what you did during the season, and you need to take a bow for the day. Even with the pressures that you had to deal with today, obviously this is the number one defense in the NFL. They are very difficult to deal with. Very difficult to deal with. You were never able to get comfortable.

You were never able to set into your throws. The running game was non-existent. and one of the things I'm not sure why they didn't do is because the pressure was getting to you, because the long throws that they're used to having, he was never able to step up in the pocket and make the throws that he normally does. He was always on the run,

always having to make a play using his legs. I'm not sure why they didn't go to the quick game. I think going to the quick game to nullify the pressures that they were using, that the Ravens were using, would it help a little bit more until you get, until you get the running game going a little bit. they were never able to get in rhythm offensively,

then the penalties. The penalties, the first half was great. The penalties killed drives for them, putting them in third and longs, second and 20, second and 21. So it made things that much more difficult. And then, you know, once it got to the second half, it was just, it was overwhelming.

It was overwhelming at that point. And there was nothing they could do, man. That Raven defense went crazy. And, you know, once Lamar scored, once it was 1710, after that at the at the at the like they all relax they exhale and it was over it was a it was a wrap from there and that's the thing that the ravens have the ravens have a gear that they can get to that very few teams can get to right they can step on the gas they had over 200 plus yards running the football they led the NFL and rushing we know what they represent running the football you could you factor illamar jackson and you got hill you got gust a guest erwas even dalvin cook came in there and mop up time and had a nice run yeah but this was all about lamar jackson yeah yeah He controlled the game from start to finish.

He didn't put the ball in harm's way. And that's the only thing I really feel that could derail the Ravens. If that he were to put the ball in harm's way, clean game, clean, not even a hint of a turnover. And he made all the big time throws. And we know what he is with his legs. He's dynamic. He's dynastic.

There have been very few guys in the history of the game that could run the ball like he can. And when he runs the ball is like step. current hitting a three. It's so deflating. That's a good one. It's so deflating, Ojo, because we got it, we got it. Damn, we don't got him. He got 20 yards. What he got. You had him for a five-yard loss, but now he has a 20-yard, and he's doing a great job now of knowing when the journey is over. And he was talking about with Debo sometimes. Yeah, you got to make a business decision. You don't got to put, you ain't got to prove you tough anymore. And that's what Lamar is doing a great job of. He's getting down, not taking those unnecessary

their hits. Because over the course of a game, over the course of a season, those start to take their toll. But I thought Lamar Jackson was fabulous tonight, 16 to 22, 152 yards, not the Goddys stats as far as 300 yards passing, but he didn't need that.

You look at what they did on the ground. He had 11 for 100. Justin Hill had 13 for 66, Gus Edwards had 10 for 40, and Dalvin Cook came in late in the ball game and had 8 for 23. So they were well, well over 166, 206, so they almost hit 230 yards running the football.

Yeah. Well, when you run the ball for 230 yards, that means you're going to eat up time of possession. Yep. Guess what they had. Almost 38 minutes time of possession. And that's the problem that you have when you face the Ravens. Yeah. If they get you down, good luck, good luck coming.

If they get you down 10, 14 points, because they can shorten the game by running the air out of the football. That's right. And you know what they're going to do defensively. They're going to blitz you. They're going to pin their ears back. And it's going to be a long night, especially if you can't run the ball. If you can't run the ball and you can't throw the ball because they make it stride uncomfortable. The penalties.

The defense, the line was playing so well. They had, if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong, if somebody checks it. Last week, I think they might have had three penalties for what, 27 yards. This game, this game, I think they had, what was it? 11 penalties for 70 yards. Yeah, 11 for 70. was three for 15. Yeah.

Yeah, it's hard to win games like that, especially me playing against the team like that. You need as many advantages as you can. Yeah. Penalties hurt them very, very bad,

really messing up drives. Yeah. The only thing I will say is the Ravens was four for 12 on third down. Yeah. That won't get it done next week against either team,

Buffalo or Kansas City. Now, that was the Houston, Texas, a rookie quarterback. They did well. Because if you look at the Ocho, it wasn't like guys were open.

But nobody's open. I mean, you look, I mean, the first pass he threw got batted it down. I mean, the Ravens almost like, we know exactly what y'all want to do and we're going to take that away. Yeah. Because they were, they were locked in. Yeah. They were coming. They were, they were, they were sudden. They were, they were decisive. Every, every, every, John Harbaugh could not have asked for a better game from his team. Yeah. Than what he got today. On both sides of the.

ball on both sides of the ball. Lamar was sensational. Like I said, you, you, four, 12, I mean, you had 12, a third down opportunity. You'd like to be somewhere six or 12. Six or 12, and who knows, the game gets out of hand. But when you win the game like they won the game as decisively as they did, man,

they look good. The Ravens look really, really good. And you're like, okay, no matter who comes out of that game, Buffalo or Kansas City, you got your work cut out. going to M&T Stadium. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

You got your work cut out. I don't care who it is. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, it does not matter. If they play like that, if they don't turn the ball over, you're going to have, I feel to go into Baltimore and to beat the Ravens, you're going to have to force them to turn the ball over. Yeah. I don't believe you can play, have Lamar play a clean game and beat him in his backyard.

I don't believe you can do it. No. And what they're going to do defensively as far as confusing and adding pressure, trying to make Josh Allen uncomfortable, depending on who is. it is if Patrick Holmes uncomfortable and get him off his spot, get him running. Obviously, they're going to play physicality is their specialty. Everybody plays football a certain way, but something about the teams in the AFC North, they play defense a little bit different.

I don't even know how to explain it. I don't even know how to explain it. You know, you would have to be in that atmosphere. You'd have to be on that field and strap your helmet on your chin strap, and you'll know the goddamn difference. You'll understand the difference. It's physical. You've got to play physical because everybody pride themselves.

on like we're the toughest. You know, Baltimore says we're the toughest. Pittsburgh said, man, bro, y'all just got to this division. We've been running, when it was the old AFC Central, it wasn't always the North. It used to be the AFC Central, Oto. And the Texans were in that division. No way, they weren't the Texans at the time.

They were the Titans. The Titans used to be in that division. Right. Along with the Jags, also in that division. So Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Tennessee, and the Ravers. We were all in that division. The AFC Central.

Now all of a sudden they reconfigured it and you got four teams in each division and they called the ALC North. But they pride themselves on physicality. We tried to make you do, you know, when I was in Baltimore, they tried to make you turn it down. Steelers tried to make you turn it down.

Tennessee, you know Tennessee, how they pride themselves, Jeff Fisher, they feel, hey, we're a physical team and Coach Kaufflin team, they were tough, hard nose, just like his military background. He would think they would be. Entering today's game, Lamar Jackson was one for three in the playoffs. He's now heading to his first AFC championship game.

Two more wins. And you know what? The guy that he was supposed to be a wide receiver, oh, he's a running back. He's a running back. Yeah. Two more wins. He a made man. Super Bowl champ.

He'll make a match. Ocho, he'll made man. The same one that was a very big. for teams, you know, in the offseason, everybody said, no, we good, we don't want it? Yep. Okay. Even, even, listen, I know I played for the Bengals, but even I understand how specially is.

I understand how dynamic he is. How, if he was to come to your team, how much he can change that offensive, offensive franchise around. A different, different type of individual. Cam Newton was special. Michael Vic was special. But Lamar Jackson, during his time, right now. is different.

He's different. Ocho, they're not, look here. Them team's not going to upset the apple cart, bro. They're not going to do that. They're not going to do that. They're not going against one of their own. Right. Oh, I see what you mean.

No, bro. They're not going to do that, Ocho. I mean, hey. Even for a chance at holding that Lombardi? We're going to stick together. Now, we might disagree. We might not like one another. But when it comes down to it,

We're going to ride for 32. It ain't nothing coming between the 32. And so I'm not going to set that president. Right. Oh, no. Okay. I see you're going with it. I see you going with it.

I see you going on. Hey, you'd rather do that. You don't cut your nose to the spite your face. What's the saying? Cuts your nose off to spite your face. Right. And I'm glad. I'm glad because, look,

obviously I got a special Ozzie Newsom, who's the general manager. Ozzy. He still has an office there at the building, but, you know, Eric DeCosta kind of runs the day-to-day. His last pick, his last pick was trading back into the first round getting

Lamar Jackson. Yeah. I mean, think of it's hard to say, look, the man drafted his first two draft picks was Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis. Legends. And then he drafted, and then he drafted Ed Reed. It did he drafted Terrell Suggs. And also why defensive

rookie of the year Peter Bouldewer. Yeah. And now Lamar Jackson. Florida State. Yeah, Peter Bullware. Yeah. Drath of Jamal. Mm-hmm.

I mean, so, man, I'm happy for him and I'm happy for the Ravens. Like I said, I only spent two years there, but my two years there were great. I made lifelong friends. It was a great atmosphere. Obviously, I know Steve Boshadhi, he was a minority owner. When I was there, ended up taking over for Art Moldale. But I'm happy for Ozzy. I'm happy for the Ravens.

And they got an opportunity to go back to a Super Bowl for a third. third time and their young, since they came into existence in 1996. So they have an opportunity with a win next week to go to their third Super Bowl. Yeah. And basically 25, what, 20, 27, 28 years. You know what I think?

I hate to, I hate to look so far in advance. But because of the Ravens defense, I don't see whether Buffalo comes in there or whether Kansas City comes in there. I don't see them beating them boys. I don't see him beating them. I don't think people understand. You know, people that watch the game of football understand it's all about

matchups. It's all about matchups and personnel and how well does your defense match up against this offense. Even as high octane and high scoring as the bills can be or the keys can be, it's different when you're playing a team like that that has that type of personnel to match up against you, especially being able to add pressure. blitzes, do different things from a formation and schematical standpoint because you have the personnel

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podcast network on TikTok. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021. And I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021. podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, I think the thing is, but here's the thing. It's like when teams had Jordan,

they didn't matter where they went. They had Jordan. And when you have one of these quarterbacks, when you have a Josh Allen, when you have a Patrick Mahomes, it's kind of like Lamar Jackson, you feel like you can go on the road in any environment, anything, any condition, and win it and get it done.

And so all they want is an opportunity. It's like, okay, we'll cross whatever bridge we have to cross, whatever that defense might throw at us, because we know the Ravens, they're known for defense. They've always been like that from the raves and the sugs and the airy to now they got rolled, and Quinn and all those guys. Hamilton has been unbelievable on the back end at safety. Congratulations, all first team, all pro.

They, if the Ravens, you already know what they do. Yeah. They try to knock you, they try to knock your dick in the dirt. It's the simple as that. Every time they try to drop, they try to drop rank on your head. Right. That's how the Ravens hit. Look, yeah.

The toughest man win. And they pride themselves on being tough. That's a physicality that's been passed down from the time Ray Lewis stepped in there and Sugs and all those guys Rod Wilson, Rob Burnett, when they had Goose, Sam Adams, Rob Burnett, Peter Bowlerware. Yeah.

And it's just always sucks. It's come all the way down. When you, when you, it's kind of like a Steelers defense. Yeah. When you put that black and go on and you play that side of the ball, you know what's expected. It's a part of your identity.

You know what's expected. I mean, if you're a Steelers, you know this, Sammy. You know mean Joe. You know Lambert, Ham. Joe Greer. excuse me, a male blunt, Elsie Greenwood, Ernie Holmes. Yeah.

You know what they represent, Andy Russell, Donny Schell. Yeah. So when you play for the Ravens, you know what you're representing. You're representing Ray Lewis and Ed Reed and all of those guys that came before you. There's a standard. You know, you hear Mike Tomlin talk about the standard is the standard. When you play for the Steelers, when you play for the Ravens and you play that side of the football, the standard is the standard. Yeah.

and it's already been set. So they've got defensive players of the years littered on that side of the ball. They got defensive rookie of the years littered on that side of the ball. So when you go into that building and it says play like a raven, you already know what's expected of you.

Nothing less would be tolerated or accepted. I never forget. I told you what we call Steelers Week and Raven Week. Two 10 straps. I never forget, Marvin Lewis. Anytime we plan the Steelers or we plan the Ravens. The motto was it's a two chin strap game week. Because that's what you don't need.

By the time you get to the second quarter, third quarter, whatever chitchieft you're wearing, you're going to need a new one. Yeah. Oh, man. They spoofing me on Saturday Night Live, Ocho. Who? And then Saturday Night Live, they got me and the Cat Williams.

They got me. Oh, it's on right now? It's all right now. Yeah. Oh, man. Boy, Saturday Live, boy, you big, boy. You might, you, quiet as cap.

You're like, you're creeping into the A-List of Leonardo DiCaprio, Samuel Jackson realm, nah. Nah. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just co-hoho. Nah, nah, no, no, boy, that's different, boy. You're different, boy. You're like, you want to, you do you a list status, nah, boy. That is, that is a pretty big.

Saturday Night Live. I wonder if my. sister watching. She's probably watching. What did she watch? She hadn't called me, so she might be gone to bed. She got to go to church in the morning. Yeah. But I see people in the chat. Yeah. They got you on. Yeah, I guess so. When I get off, I'm going to go, I'm going to reach it and see what's going on.

But, yeah, if, think about Ocho, all the teams, all the teams that are going to go into the draft. Right. And look for a quarterback. And you could have had a guy that's 26 years old. Yeah. With an MVP that's won the division, that's taking a team to the playoff several times, and you could have had it. Yeah.

And your quarterback, and you would have to worry about your quarterback. Yeah. And it's interesting to hear what you just said earlier about the 32 actually sticking together. Yeah. You know, and rather.

Now, obviously, all 32, also, all 32 didn't need a quarterback. But there were 10 or 15 that we did. Yeah. If you got Patrick Mahomes, you got Josh Allen, you got Joe Burrow,

Burrow, or something like that. Right, right, right. But Atlanta damn show needed a quarterback. Yeah. I think they probably, they probably bleed in what they had, but I just want to see it one more year.

I know it, I know it to me. I know. Man, it must be out of their mind. Well, you see, guess what? Now you got to go,

now you got to, look, give me Lamar Jackson. At least I know what I'm going to get. Lamar is a proven commodity. Oh, yeah. You don't know what the head you're going to get

from these guys that you draft out of college? Yeah, you're right. Just because they're right. Just because they had a great see this is why everybody wants to go to the portal at least if i get a guy at the portal i get a guy that's already been in college and so i already know he's going to do what he needs to do as far as school works and i know what type of player is because i can go ahead and put him on

tape so i've seen him against other college players as opposed to a guy that's coming out of high school i don't know he probably never been away from home i don't know how he's going to respond to go into class and all this other stuff and playing against guys that are on his level level right that's why guys go to the portal where hell lamar jackson's already been in the NFL hell he's already won an MVP yeah so what the hell you explain well i don't know what lamar gonna do you do you do know what he's gonna do he already done it yeah yeah and in the funny thing they can't with what i like about what lamar has done is he's transitioned being a pocket passer now he's not he's not run he doesn't have the run first mentality because the supporting

cast that they have around him right have to listen if it's covered he's gonna read he's gonna go through his reads, he'll go hit one, two, and three. Sometimes if you have time, he'll come back to one to see if it's freed up. And if it ain't there, I'll let you. He's taken off. But you know what I love about him? He's like, I'm not Tom Brady. I'm not Peyton Manning.

A lot of times we get guys that have legs and they all of a sudden forget that they got legs. And it says, well, I want to be this because I don't get the credit that the other guys, damn that credit. I win and see what they give you credit. Oh, yeah. at the end of the day, that's what it comes down to. So many times you get caught up in Peyton Manning is Peyton Manning.

I guarantee you, Peyton says, hell, I wish I could run like Lamar Jackson. Tom Brady says, I wish I could run like Lamar Jackson. But they had to use what they had in order to get the most out of their God-given ability. Right. Lamar Jackson, God bless Lamar Jackson with a set of wheels that he didn't give a whole lot of people in the NFL, period, regardless of the position. Right. And he gave them the ability to throw the football. So now he blessed them with more than the average quarterback

because he can run it and throw it. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, you know what? Y'all not fit to, y'all not fin to pitching me. Y'all not fit to try to make me feel bad. Oh, Lamar running the football. Damn right, I'm going to take off and run.

If ain't nobody open. I ain't fit to sit back here and sit and duck. I got these wheels. And guess what? I don't got smart now. I ain't taking no extra punishment. I'm getting down because all I got to do is going to a slide. If you hit me, I'm going to look at the referee and go get that.

flag. Yep. And I ain't going to feel bad either. So, hey, stop crying. Stop looking for a flag. Oh, you already know when I was like, when I go into a slide, like I'm going to second base, you better not touch me. You better not touch me.

Hey, that's going to be exciting. I mean, I'm excited for the games tomorrow. God damn. Man, I can't believe Saturday night and live. Spoof your boy, Ocho. The dude, the dude had a little, had a brown sweatsuit, had a brown shirt suit, a track suit, on just like I had. Yeah.

They had a cat with a big old necklace on, man. I sure hope my sister to watch this live. You're famous now, man. I don't think you on, we talk about Saturday,

Saturday, you know what? You know what's the next step from Saturday Night Live? What? Boy, you might be hosting the Oscars. Oh, oh.

Yeah, yeah. That's, I'm telling you. Like my boy, Quaid. I got a dog name, Oscar. Once you hit Saturday Night Live, the next thing for you, the next step is the Oscars. the Emmys, you know, you, you, you bridging over and you cross it over into that A-list type area and realm.

Yeah. Man, Ocho, it's, look, I mean, I watch some of these guys and now it's hard because of what you can. It used to be when they come on, they have the award shows and these comedians. Right. Everybody's so uptight now, you can't say this or you can't say that. They don't kind of taking the fun out of it. You guys might as well come out there and say, hey, and the nominee, for best supporting actress or, you know,

you can't even have fun. Yeah. Everybody all up Titan-ish. Come on, man. I mean, there are few people, there are few people that will come out even, even at that level, you know,

that are A-listers, that are comedians that, obviously host shows like that. Right. You know, Ricky Jervat. How you say his last name? Ricky Jervase. Oh, he don't care.

Yeah. He don't care. Oh, he's going to be controversial. He's going to give you what you won't. I haven't been to be controversial because I care. Hey, listen. Dave for to take our little show, Ocho. Listen, he got the complexion for the protection, so he can get away with that.

He can get away with some of that. She, hey, well, Dave, Dave is a comedian. Dave isn't one that would really do a hosting a host and a stick. But see, here's the thing. They can't take anything away from Dave because Dave is already showing what they had to offer. Right. David said, kiss my halit told Hollywood to kiss his ass. That first time.

that first time and with Africa you can't threaten someone with something they already don't care about right right and see that was the thing that was a mistake

that I made with some of the women that I dated Ocho right talk to me now I was giving them things they already didn't care about oh unbeknownst to me I'm giving you something I'm giving you more

of what you didn't already appreciate right so if they don't appreciate and you continue to give them more on your end that's fool on me or you're preaching a nightmare come on pass so Dave Chappelle you're like oh Dave

we're not going to cast you in a movie oh Dave you so because guess what Dave Chappelle can put up a link and hey I got a show and I'm coming here it's sold out easy so you can't so you can't take something from someone

right they don't want so what they see so a lot of people like get canceled well, you know, hey, take me off TV. They take our little shows. Okay, YouTube say, we're not going to have you all. Okay, fine. But see, Dave Chappelle doesn't need that.

Mm-hmm. And so that's the luxury that he has, that not a whole lot of other people have. Yeah. Because what he desires is not what you could offer him. Mm-hmm. That's crazy. you know it take it take a whole lot to get to that point though

it takes a whole lot and you got to be good at what you do you got to be really good at what you do let me get nine figures let me get nine figures in my account baby I act of food too yeah you right that's what we call fuck you money yeah oh absolutely but now I would never I would never be for me like like I joke that

but in all sincerity I'm never gonna you know say something demeaning or derogatory about someone's religion or race or anything like that. I don't care how much money I got. I'm going to be respectful of people's race, religion, origin, you know, whatever the case may be. That's just the way I am. I respect everybody. You do your thing and what you do in your house. Yeah.

Ain't got nothing to do with me. No, at all. No, no food off my time. You know, grandma always say depending on where you're at in the world, depending on where you work, whether it's sports, whether it's corporate, whether it's TV. you got to be careful. And there are three things you don't play with. There are three things, baby, as long as you live, that you don't play with,

because it's a never-ending war between all three. Race, religion, and politics. Race, religion, and politics. It doesn't matter what you're staying is. Whoever doesn't agree with you, y'all can argue for hours, for days, for weeks, for months. Yep, yep. And you would never come to a common ground ever.

No, no. Mm-mm. And that's that's the sad part. I mean, when I hear Nikki Haley say America has never been, has was never a racist country. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, stop.

Say who said that? She said, Nikki Haley. She was trying to be funny. No. So how are you trying to run for the highest seat and you're going to say something like that? First of all. So that automatically should disqualify you in general.

How the hell I ain't know about that? That's a disqualify you in general. Just even having an audacity to say something like that. And just ask, Nikki, why you change your name? That's not your given name. Remember your father? He had to go to an HBC teacher at the HBCU. Because where you came from and that name you had,

you couldn't teach you had no PWI. You're going to stop playing, Nikki. I see what you're talking about. Yeah, we pull receipts here. I see what you're going. I mean, all you got to do, okay, let's just go back. let's see, we go back. America has never been racist.

Ask the Native Americans what they think about that. Ask the blacks. Asked about the Japanese and the intermittent camp. What they think about that. Betrayal of tears. Ask them what they think about that.

Yeah. Ask them about civil war. Ask them about segregation. Ask them about reconstruction. I'm just saying, I mean, listen. You can erase. They can try to erase all that they won't.

I mean, but they try and erase history. They try and erase history. They definitely try it. But for her to say something like that. Yeah. It's just disrespectful. To say something like that. When the history on it, it's so rich.

I got to do it. And right. Right. Google is your friend. Yeah. I'm not sure who prepped you before you even said that, but you need to fire them. Come on, man.

Don't do that. Don't be insulting. But you have to understand. It's right. It's right in your face. And it's still prevalent today. Oh, Joe. still prevalent today.

Ocho, you have to understand who you're trying to appeal to. The people that she's trying to appeal to agree with her. Come on now. There are certain people in our community that's trying to appeal. And that's what I tell people. Sometimes you are trying to appease a base that's never going to accept you. All they did, all you do is just give them validation because they say, see that black, how he says, oh, he'll take on the black establishment.

He'll take on the black community. Yeah. But like Tim Scott, he up there with, man, he ought to be embarrassed. He ought to be embarrassed. Right. The stuff that he says and how they think, bro, to know what they say about you when they go home and they close them doors. If you only knew.

Right. Right. They see you know different. They make enough bleach. You couldn't go to Sammy Sosa doctor to make them think of you any other way. Right. But we're going to move on. Check this out with you.

Check this out. Namarita. Huh. Namarita. Namarita. Namarita. Nicky Hayley is a full name. Why you don't go about Namarita?

Namarita. Namarada. Mm-hmm. Well, you might ask, but hold on. But you didn't have a problem. You didn't have no problem. You didn't have no problem. Your dad didn't have no problem when he needs to get employment from an HBCU.

Right. Oh, y'all was on kick, keep, everything was all hunky door. Then why didn't you go get one of the jobs over there? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Lainty Ray asked, Shadden Ocho, if you were offered, would you ever host SNL? If so, how do you think you would do? would you crack up laughing during the skit, probably?

Yeah, you know, if we host SNL, I think that would be a great duo. There have been some great athletes that have done it. There have been some great actors that have done it. Trave, Trave, Trave, oh, Peyton Man, it comes to mind. Unbelievable. Crazy work. Trav last year did it.

Yeah. Unbelievable job. Yeah, I think Drake did it as well. I think, I think Drake did it. Obviously, with his acting background, he was great. but I think we would we would we would fare pretty well and be high in the rain. I don't think Haley is too much. To go back,

Nikki Haley's last name wasn't Haley. It was she had like an Indian name. Wait, so she changed first and last? Yeah, her last name was like, it's like, it's like an Indian name or I don't want to say,

I don't want to say the wrong thing. Right. But, uh, Pakistani or something. Hmm. Haley was not her last name. It was not her given name.

Yeah, Namarita Wadda, R-A-N-D-H-A-W-A. That don't say nothing about born in America. So Haley, her husband name was Haley. But, damn, she dropped that thing quick. You don't have a choice.

I mean, to get where you want to go, to get where you want to go, to be accepted in the rooms you want to be accepted in, there are certain maneuvers and tactics you have to do in order to make it happen. That's what I've been trying to tell people for the longest, Ocho. Yeah. Listen, and I'm going to stay with me because I'm going to give a little history. You see, there were people that came over.

And they were able to drop their last name and get an American name. Now, you tell me what I can drop to not be black. Shit. I can't change nothing about you. I can say Porter. I can say kicklider. I can say dirt. I can say Dasher.

I can say Spielberg. But when you look at me, you still know what. I'm black. So don't give me this, all this notion. Well, I don't see color. Yes, you do. And I think Gerard Mayo summed it up best. You do see color.

You're not color, Brian. That's why when you put, when the light turn green, you take off. When it turn red, you stop. Just like a stop sign. Because if you don't, if you colorblind, how do you know when to go when the light turn? The question is, it's not whether or not you see color. what do you do and what is your reaction to the stimuli once you see that color?

Yeah. People just stop playing. Stop this notion. I don't see color. Yes, you do. Yeah. And stop telling me, first of all, if you know how many black friends you got,

Oh, I got to stop it. Because you see the plaque that's going on and you pretend like you don't. So in other words, you don't have black friends. You know black people. There's a difference between the two. Yeah. And I don't know how many,

I don't know how many Hispanics. friends I got. I don't know how many Asian friends I got. I don't know how many friends I got. I can't even count. I don't even look at them like that. If you can count them, if you can count how many you got, then you ain't got enough. Yeah. Well, first of all, they're not cars. They're not possession. They're not things that you're supposed to be able to count. Oh, you know what? Now that I think about it, I got four, I got four Asian friends. Right. I got four Hispanic friends. I don't know. Yeah, that's interesting. Would you ever go into politics? No, because you got to lie.

Okay. I wanted to see where you're going to go with it. No, you got to see you're going to go with it. You got to make promises that you can't keep. Yeah. That's a part of the game. That is. And I couldn't lie to the people to promise them some things

and knowing that I'm not going to be able to deliver them. I can't do that. Right. So I want a better question for you, obviously getting off topic just a little bit, tad a little bit. When it comes to presidential candidates, politicians, those that are running for Senate, for office, where they need small cities, big cities, and the people in the masses understanding that to win elections, that is whoever

tells the Swedish lie that makes you believe that you are actually in control of the outcome. You're never in control. You know, there are certain things that they tell us. I don't want to cause any controversy, but I'm just saying in general, whoever tells the sweetest lie normally wins. Yes. Let me see how I can fool the masses and make whatever I'm saying believable. The chances of me actually execute what I'm telling you just to get myself in office,

probably not, because everything is already set in stone. The people pulling the real trigger, let me take the glasses off. The people that really run the world, that pulled the triggers, that give the green lights on what's goals and what's going to go and what's going to go, what's going to pass and what's not going to pass, You can't even see them. Yeah. You can't even see him. I mean, that's a whole other story.

I don't want to go there. That's a whole other story. Yeah. But I mean, I like to, look, I don't, I don't want to be in politics because I don't, I don't want to lie to the American people to get in there and I'm not going to be able to fulfill what I promised them I could be able to do. Right. Because I'm only one person.

And then if you don't, if you're not, you got to, so it's just, it's just, no, I don't want to, I don't want to do anything with politics. So, Lainee Ray, to answer. your question, maybe. I don't know what, I would take it serious. And so I wouldn't laugh, but it's all dependent on how serious, what the skits are. Right. Because, you, I mean, obviously someone is writing the jokes for you, and hopefully they're going to let me, you know, write it in such a way that's something that I would say. Yeah. Or how I would say it. But it would be, it would be an honor. It's something that I really haven't thought of. I haven't, I haven't, I've never

thought about being on Saturday Night Live, but obviously what an extreme honor that would be. Now you're able to say, I love it when you talk like that. Power to the people. Beware, chocolate, teddy bearer. Thank you. Ocho.

Yeah. I know you, did you see this? What? CD mom, leader Ramirez wrote on Facebook, DAC isn't it. I wish CD would leave. They need to get rid of DAC ass. It's guys on that team that wanted to ring.

work too hard, that don't want to win a ring. Wait a minute. Not family. Family then got involved? Ocho. Ocho. You for real? Are you sure it was her? Yes. She won hack? She said, someone coming and tell the young and to come home,

C.J would love him. To which remember responder, is, I wish he would see. I wish he would. CJ is great. Oh, Joe, this is what, listen, this is what I tell people all the time. Even though it might not be true. Yeah. Anytime a family member or a friend or a loved one says something. Right.

People will automatically assume it came from said players. Even though that might not be true. Right. Right. They, I was very cautious. Now, I didn't really have to worry about my sister. My sister don't really talk like that. Right.

But my mom and I, you know, hey, and just remember, when you understand and you talk about that sorry, you know what, that mophon can't do this, that might be somebody son you sent next to. That might be somebody husband. O'Dell, Cleveland Browns, Pops came out. Yes. Put a video. Yes. Okay. I remember that.

That happens very seldom, though. Yes. It happens very seldom. But when it does, it makes. noise. I tell you what. It makes headlines. I didn't even hear about this.

Man, let me hear Reel say, man, let me hear Reel say, man, these bingo sorry, that quarterback sold me no good. You know what? She got that from Ocho. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely, definitely came from me. Definitely came from me.

But I think Cidi, Cidi, Cid got to find a way to nip that in the butt. He ain't going to do. It's too late. Ocho, Ocho, let me ask you a question. He ain't going to where. Ocho, we're in the courtroom. You say something. We're in the courtroom.

We're both lawyers. My client says, something. You stand up and says objection. The judge said sustain. How do you make the jury unhear what they heard? Right. Okay. Okay. Hey, that's my mom speaking. I don't speak. My mom

doesn't speak for me. I'm my own man. How are you going to make Cowboy fans? How are you going to make Jerry? How are you going to make the world here? Unhear what they heard your mama say. That mama talking. That's going to catch head. Was that the day? Was that the day?

it came out yesterday morning. I didn't hear about it. Oh, you know what? I was traveling. I was traveling. Yes. Why I didn't know. I was traveling yesterday.

Okay. Okay. Well, that's crazy. Why, why was she? I think she must be really upset. She was really upset.

Hold on. Michael brother, Terrence Parsons Jr. tweeted, I can't wait because y'all really clueless out here. Last my, you know what off. The greatest crime to this man is being done

by his own organization. y'all gonna miss miss him when he's gone wait wait wait we falling apart over here now wait a dad's brother tad prescott tweeted cowboy fans who continue to DM me trust me if i could get dac to leave dallas i would i want him out of dallas the city the organization have been great to he and our family but done done with this drama uh and there is so so-called fans but he loves this team and he wants to bring it a reed. I mean, I know you don't, you don't remember, but there used to be a show called Dallas with Jock Ewing on the South Fort Ranch. And that's what we got right now. We got a drama going on. How did it even get to this point?

How did it even get to this point? Would we have parents, where we have siblings, where we have, how do we even get to this point? Because what did I tell you all year to begin of year? Expectations. That's how you get to this point. the reason for the expectations? What's the reason? Who's the number one or the common denominator that has everybody in Dallas, the media,

the players thinking with these type of expectations? Mm-hmm. Who? Well, you know, Jared B. selling, you know, Jared's a salesman. And he's been selling, he's been selling to the cowboy. Listen, they're America's team. And they've been believing this.

And look, they were really good. They were really good in the 70s, had a little drop off. They were good. They were decent in the 80s. They didn't win the championship. But in the 90s, it took off again. But the 2000s and the 2010s, and here we are in the 2000. We can't continue to live off 30 years ago.

Right, right. We can't continue to off of 30 years ago. They do, though. They do. Like I said, Ocho, you know how it is. Oh, Cho, you know when somebody spent something rail says something about it something y'all pillow talk y'all talking

that's why you had I told me I used to tell my the line my daughter tell hey yeah your pillow talking as you know what stop talking so much about what transpired at practice and what happened in the locker room oh pillar talking ass you know what yeah and you know you get hey guess what sharp said

guess what happens bro and stop about that pillar talking but you know mama mama got to be a little bit more weary and understanding on what that can cause on the back end like it is now. I'm surprised. Obviously, I would have known if it hit mainstream media. So I didn't even know, Dax's brother.

There's certain things that you've got to keep in-house. You got to keep stuff like that. Micah's brother, there's certain stuff you've got to keep in house if you feel a certain way. You can't say those things. When you get mad, do you give a damn but the repercussions? You're just mad right now. And I'll deal with the repercussions later, Ocho.

you know how this work I know but it's the players have to deal with that the players have family members talking and now the players are going to get the brunt that's like you get in trouble you out you out with your friends and you the one that play football and everybody

everybody getting in the fight and you don't do nothing but who name hit the headlines yeah yeah same thing same thing because and that's you know I tell I tell my mom tell my son everybody hey Sterling and Shannon Sharp's sister.

Sterling and Shannon Sharp's mom. Yeah. My kids. Hey, the first thing they're going to say, the son or the daughter of Shannon Sharp. Right. Right.

Right. Yeah. I gave you, look. I gave you the last name. I gave you a great education. Yeah. Don't F up the last name.

I like that. That's a good one. That's a good one. So, but that's, that's the way it is. Yeah. You just have to be mine for Ocho.

Because everything that you say, if you're a family member or a loved one or a significant other, people are going to assume what you're saying is coming from the individual on said team. Right, right, right. That's just the way it wrote. And we talk about a mom too. We talk about a mom. So I understand her sentiments as a father myself, you know. But when I think about what CED he has done for that organization, and when I think about what CEDE has done this year, the type of. season he's had, you know,

the Brinks truck type of money he's getting ready to get. Oh yeah, for sure. You know, it's just the timing. He deserved. He earned it. CD has earned that. Each year, he's gotten better and better. Each year, CD has gotten better and better. And I remember you and I have a discussion.

I say, Ocho, I don't know. I say, I got maybe top 10, but he's proved this year to be a top five receiver. Yeah, I remember that conversation. Yeah, they all in the chat talking about and I'm saying, I'm saying I'm not comparing Josh Allen to Michael Jordan but I'm saying when you have a certain quarterback be it Tom Brady, be it Peyton Manning,

be it one of these quarterbacks, you feel you can go anywhere, anytime, in any conditions, and winning. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying Josh Allen was Michael Jordan. I'm not saying any of that, but you need to follow along. Look, you guys take everything

in its literal interpretation. I'm saying when you have these quarterbacks like that, I play with John Elway. It did not matter where we went. As long as I had him, I felt we were going to win the game. That's why we were able to go on the road and have our revenge tour.

We went to Kansas City where we had lost. I got John Elway. I got TD running the ball. We go to Pittsburgh. We go to San Diego at the time and play the Packers. When you have that guy, and it's hard to explain unless you play the game and have one of those guys.

But I guarantee you everybody that's been on Brady's team will tell you they didn't fear anything. Guy that's been on Peyton Manning team will tell you they didn't fear anything. Just like when I was on seven's team, I go anywhere, anywhere, anywhere, anytime, in any condition. I don't give it down you got 110,000 fans or you got five. I got a quarterback and I ain't hoping I'm expecting to win. And that's when you got a Josh Allen, you got a patch, Patrick Mahomes, you are Lamar Jackson, you expect there's no longer hope. Well, if our defense play outstanding, if we can get a turnover, remember we talked

about the Cowboys? Look at the Cowboys offense when their defense don't get pick, sixes and scooping scores. Look at their offense when the defense, when they're special teams, don't put them on short fields. You see the difference? Yeah. When I tried to tell y'all that all year, we winning. I said, okay, but you're not looking.

See, the thing is you're happy that you win. and you look at touchdown. But you got to look at the untrained eye. You got to look at the game within the game. Now what happens when they didn't get no turnovers from the pack? They didn't get not one turnoff from the Packers. How did it look? Nah, now overturned.

But we had a great year. We won the division. Look at the Eagles. They just like, no, no, no, no, no. That didn't what you was talking about. So when you have these top level quarterbacks, you don't fear anything. Yeah.

You don't. someone coming to the Dallas Cowboys are the most successful NFL entertainment franchise in the world all the fans the emotion the drama truly make it a hit series every year they do no the Cowboys move the needle

unlike any other football team I mean there look the Yankees the Lakers the Cowboys that's the dead they move the buck stops no matter what you think about them they move the needle

yeah hell I wish after the Cowboys lost, I could call Roger Goodell and say put the Cowboys back in the playoffs so they can lose a game. And we break another record and put them back in the playoffs again

and we just keep putting their ass in the playoffs. Even get to the Super Bowl. Because if they got to the Super Bowl and lost, we did 1.5 on Monday. We'd do 10.5. Yeah. Yeah. It is what it is. So, yeah, that's great.

Yeah, that's rough. I feel bad that, uh, that, you know, because Cedee's going to have to answer those questions. You know, people are going to ask, man, what, what are you going to say? Man, you know, what are you going to say? Man, that's my mom. I love my mom. Yeah. My mom don't speak for me. Yeah, there's nothing you can say. And I don't think you can say that part too. I don't think you can say if my mom doesn't speak for me. You always have to back her no matter what the same. Hell not. I came back on that with hell not. If the situation was, I mean, I'm not saying not based on what you said, But you don't go against mama.

You can't go against mama. I was like here. That's my mom. Hey, I love my mom. My mom said what she said, but my mom don't speak for me. That's what you got to say. Oh, I see what you mean.

I see what you mean. Okay, I see what you mean. Yeah, they're going to be all right though. They're going to be all right. You know, Citi don't have that time. Come on, mama, you come on now. Come on, baby. You can't, you can't do.

Don't do that. Don't do that. Hey, mama, here. Mama, go pick out of house. And be quiet. Matter of fact, go to the car lot. Get you something new. Yeah, yeah.

I tell me, Mama, go get a house and go in the new car, Mama, and stop talking. As a matter of fact, your phone, your only phone number you'll be able to call

it 9-1-1 and me. You ain't going to be able to call, you ain't going to be able to do anything else on your damn phone. Yeah. You get your baby in trouble. Yeah, that's dope, though. That's good.

That's good for, I kind of like it in a sense for the parents to be like that much submerged into caring and understanding when things aren't going well. Right. I like that.

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And it seems former Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis is expected to join his staff. Then Marvin Lewis would probably be the decontinent. You know, they were together at Oregon, with Arizona State. Arizona State, yeah. With my son, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Marvin came on to help Herm. Hearn was the head coach.

Hyde, hide AP as the linebacker coach. And then Marvin kind of oversee. So I don't know if Marvin wants to be like day to day, but I think he'd be like overseas. Okay, okay. You know, have a set of eyes, set of ears to really help him navigate his way through there. Yeah. But I'm happy for AP.

This is a job. He earned it. Very, very happy. Okay, man, basically the same team. Treat men like men. Yeah. You don't have to mofo and S.O. everybody and talk down and be

derogatory and disrespectful just because you're in a position of authority. Yeah. Guys resonate with that. And plus he's able to resonate. Yeah. With the, that's what you gotta have. Yeah. That's what you got to have. It makes sense. It goes perfect. The players love him. Hell, you heard what got damn Mason Crosby said, listen. Max Crosby. I mean, my bad, too, Mason Crosby.

Matt Crobby, you heard what he said. But listen, man, if you don't if you don't hire the coach that we as players want that we will run through a wall for I'm gonna ask for a trade I'm gonna ask for a trade I like that you don't want you don't want to play with that

I love that you don't want to lose your locker room before damn season started in 2024 yeah by hiring somebody you won't I would hate to play against a guy like Max Crosby because that mofo don't stop but he got a motor slow down he got a motor It's the out of motor.

From snap to whistle. For four quarters, you already know. You're going to get, hey, you got a. You know what you get. You play guys like him. You already know. Damn. He's going to be a long day.

A long-ass day. It's going to be a long day. On Alaska day. And you know them fade 24 hours. Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. You already know what you're going to get. He'll hell raise.

I love watching it play. F the Raiders, though. But I love watching him play. You're a Bronka. We don't. mess with the Raiders. Right. We got Raider week. We don't like, we don't deal with them. We tried to like, let's just say, uh, Raider week come Bronco time. We had like that. We had a little something for them. It's like that, huh? What? The Raiders? Yeah. I've, I've never

heard of y'all robbery. Now, I understand the Saints, Falcons, oh, it's bad. Like, it's bad. It's really bad. I, you know, Bengals, Bengals, Steelers, Bengals, Ravens, I understand. Bangles Browns. but Raiders, Raiders, Broncos? First of all, the Steelers and the Ravens, we started that back in 2000,

me, trans talking milk. That's what really got, that thing jumped off. I started that. But, oh, yeah, the Raiders,

because you have to understand, they both came in 1960 and was in the AFC West. So they were the original AFL. They were the original AFC West. Right. Kansas City,

we don't like Kansas City either. But it's just something about the race. They just nasty. Yeah. So, you know, they try to hurt you. So, you know, they try to send one or two of yours to the hospital. You try to send one or two of theirs to the morgue.

That's the way it was. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. You think, oh, you think you're going to try to hurt one of our guys and we don't try to get your ass back? You say, you're trying to send them to the morgue, huh? What kind of football are you playing? I'm trying to, whatever they try to do to us, I try to do it.

Whatever you do to me, I'm trying to do back tenfold. All right. It's like that. Yep, that's how it is. It's like that today. Y'all, mofo's nasty. We're going to be nastier. I like it.

What did you say? You go low, I go lower. Hey, they go low. I go to the basement. And hell, if I find you in the basement, I go to hell. I'm going lower than you. Yo, you're nothing. Oh, now, hell now.

Because you get one of my guys? Hey, we like, you get one of our guys. Hey, man, such and such cheap shop. Who? Now, we got to head on him. We got to get him. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But yeah, we got to get you back.

Right. Yes. Oh, you definitely, now you know if you got 84. Oh, I got to get you. Oh, it's on, huh? Oh, and if I don't get you, I'm going to get your teammate. Oh, man, what's that about? I said, oh, you got cheap shot me.

So, hey, oh, well, that's your teammate. Somebody getting got, y'all have for the cheap shot me or my teammate, and everything will be, hey, man, good luck, sharp, okay. Well, hold up. Was the ref throwing flags back then? No. I can get your ass back and make it look. just like a block.

Go look at the play. Go look at the play. We play on a Monday night. We played the Tennessee Titans. Pair Phoenix hit me in my knee. I said, I'm going to get you. I told her, I said, I'm going to get your dirty ass back.

I said, I'm going to get you back now. Oh, you'll best believe. I will get you back. Yeah. That's okay. Man. Who is the quarterback? Was it Gerbach?

I think Gerbach might have him on a pad. Elvis. Elvis. Goerbeck. Yeah. And Q caught the ball on one side. I ran a cross-ir-ride on the other side. Right. I motioned. I motioned in Q to come. Yeah. Come this way. Q see me at the corner of his eye.

Yeah. Oh, Ocho. You lined him up? Did I line him up? Did I get him? Yeah. I almost saw him in half. Right there in front of his bench.

You got a talking shit? Talking what? He was looking at the earhole right here. Oh, I twisted it. I twisted the mocho. I literally, I tried to break him a half. Oh, I got his ass. Oh, yeah.

It's one thing by the game of football, man. You got four quarters. Somebody do something to you. You got full quarter. You never know what it's coming. You better get me at the end and I can't get you back. But if you're in my division, if you were the Raiders, the Chiefs, the Chargers, the Seahawks, oh, I'm going to get your ass back.

Oh, I'm going to get you back. Don't worry about it. If I don't get you back, I'm going to get one of your teammates that game. But I'm still going to get your ass back at a later date and time. TB to be continued. Yeah. There's nothing to get no lick on me. The only person that ever got a lick on me, and I didn't get him back, excuse me, with Brian Cox.

B. Cox caught me slipping. Boy, you had a problem with Brian? Man, no, I used to work out with Brian. Well, he, but be he crazy, what? Man, man, Brian greased you through an interception. Yeah. And I turned. I took two steps. Yeah.

And I was in the air. I said, Bacock, you dirty mofo. Man, you dirty mother. Ooh. He said, I'm, Sean, how are you doing with me? Because I say, you're the only dirty mofo out here. I didn't even see him, but I knew. Ma'am, I was straight out.

I was straight out. Every time he's seen me, he's somebody, he's somebody sharp, you know you ain't getting me back. I say, I know. You know, I say he's the only, he's the only one. I didn't get back. God damn Brian Cox. Oh, man, because.

Throwback. Check this out. RG3 and J. Groove. Hey, they've been going at it, boy. RG3 and Jay Gruden. This all started doing the Eagles Bus game when Jay Gruden tweeted. If I ever put a quarterback through what Philly is putting Jalen through, I apologize. Pick up the blitz.

RG3 tweeted back. Say what? Jay Gruden replied, you weren't prepared, Robert. After some back and forth, Groon said you weren't good enough. Kirk was better. Cleveland didn't want you. Baltimore didn't either. Quit blaming me.

Grun did tell RG3 to go. race a pigeon. Wow! Hey, there are very few times that a coach will tell you how they really feel. Yes. That's how he really feels. Yes.

And now that RG3 is not playing, he's let them be known. Yes. I think that's, he tried to delete that, right? Isn't that the tweet he tried to delete? Yes. But, you know, once screen shots if ever. You can't do.

What's your friend seen? I don't give a damn what you do. It's a rap. Somebody already got that. I mean, that's just how he felt. That's how he felt. And that's, you know, those sentiments is how sometimes they feel about many of the quarterbacks in that position.

Ocho, you said you put a T on that. You said felt. That's how he feels. He didn't feel. You talk about felt. That's past 10. Felt me. Right.

Felt some type of way. What about feel currently? currently. Right. That's nasty work. Yeah, man. That's nasty work. Yeah.

But sometimes, you know, that's what it takes. That's what it takes to get someone to tell the truth. Tell me how you really feel. Don't beat around the bush. Just be straight up the first time. Hell, if you felt that way, you could have told me back then. Right. You could tell me back then.

It's okay. Ah, that's tough, man. That's tough. Well, they told them back then, to me, it's kind of exciting. They put Kirk cousins in the game. What else do you need to see? What else do they need to tell, Yocho? I see.

I see when you're going with that. I mean, your girlfriend, I don't want to be with you, Ocho. Yeah, you, you steal my girl, and then you still walking out of the street with another dude. Hmm. Why don't you tell me? I told you I didn't want to be with you. So once they put the other quarterback in there, what are they telling you, Ocho? We don't want you.

Okay. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. Come on, Jay. Jay, you need to apologize to RG3, please. Yeah, I think. Can we all be friends? Can we all get along?

No. It's too late now. Yeah, so yeah, it's already out. Damage is already done. Yeah. I like that. A little entertainment. A little entertainment.

Keep it spicy. Ain't that bad. It ain't that bad. Ocho, my grandfather said, boy, there's two things you can never get back. Word spoken and deeds done. I don't care what you say. I'm sorry.

You already said it. My bad, I didn't mean to do that. It's already done. Remember that, Ocho, two things you can never get back. Word spoken and deeds done. Hold on now. Two things you can never get back. Two things you can never get back.

Word spoken. Indeed, done. I mean, I'm using, I'm using that. I don't know how I'm using it on, but I got a book of my, a book of quotes. I'm a guy, a book of course. I'm going to sell this. I'm going to sell this. Look, I am surprised that he said this publicly.

He put this in a public form. I'm sure. Jay Grun is not the first coach that had feelings felt, feel some type of way about a player. But a lot of times they take that to the grade. You never know. Maybe that's a private conversation. Right. And it's always had amongst them,

amongst themselves. But based on how they feel, it shows through the opportunities you get at the position or said position, since we talk about the quarterback position, they let you know through that, through your play.

You know, if you get bench, all right, you know what it is. They're always having an excuse on why they're doing it. And if your play isn't up to standard, you already know what time it is. But here's the thing, Ocho. He got the job because he said

he knew how to use RG3. because when you get the job, what's the first thing? You've got to be able to work with the quarterback. Quarterback, yeah. Okay, RG3 was a quarterback. He was rookie at a year. Obviously, in a situation, it didn't work out with Kyle and Mike. Mike and Kyle had wanted, because RG had never been a pocket quarterback.

He'd never really, I don't think RG3 had ever been taking a snap from under the center. So, you know, to bring him along, RG3, you know, but he wanted to fast track and he wanted to be patenting and Tom Brady. So when they remove them, you bragging coaches in, okay, what type of offense? What are you going to do with RG3? Right.

And he probably told Daniel Snyder, hey, I got all these great ideas, these great plans. I'm going to use him like this, this and this. He'll be a pocket quarterback, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, that's the wrong approach.

You take someone, obviously, that's special, that one rookie of the year, and you make a, you build a system. around him that works for him, not a system that you want. What? Who ain't here watching tennis talking about Sissy Poss? Sissy who?

Sissy Poss. What's that? He's the tennis player. Named Sissy Poss? Yeah, his last name is Sissy Poss. I never heard of Sissy Pots. I didn't even heard that. You didn't?

Sissy Poss? Are you saying it the right way? I am absolutely saying his last name the right way. Yeah, but I'm surprised. And then the man told the man to go race a pigeon. Because you remember, I think of RJ3 was out in Seattle. And he raced a pigeon. He ran the halt.

Yeah. So he told the man to go race a pigeon. Hey, our RG3 response was funny. It wasn't a pigeon. And he went to the whole explanation. That was funny. Wow. Man, I'm just, I'm surprised.

I am surprised. I'm surprised that, first of all, I'm surprised that I'm not surprised because Jay Gruden was like, Jay Gruden was like, okay, he was like, he was showing support for Lamar. Right. As I said,

stop all that damn scat protection. Stop trying to get five out in the route. Bring a sixth man in, leave the back in, bring an extra tight end in. Yeah. So they can stop hitting your quarterback or just stop having him run for his life.

That's what I, that's what I tweeted. I'm looking at it. I'm like, damn. How much gap protection are you going to run when you can't pick it up? Right. It doesn't do you any good, Ocho, to get five out if your quarterback ain't got time to throw him the damn ball or he's running for his life. So what good is having five out in the route, but your quarterback running for his life is you getting hit in his mouth.

Right. So Jay Gru was like, hey, help the man out. And then RG3. You took another shot at him? I mean, look, man, look, I can't say the type of relationship everybody had with the coaches because I don't know. But I've had great relationship with all my head coaches. Same, same, same. Every last one of them.

Never had a problem. The man would see me, talk to me. I mean, I see him going to church. I'd be going to work out because his church was right across the street from where I worked out at. I was seeing he come up and talk to him. His wife, Miss Pam. his family was always great to me. Wade Phillips,

Brian Billet, obviously Mike, all my head coaches, all my position coach. I've always had great relationship with all of them. Les Deccle, Les Deccle still call me to this day. BP, Brian Perriani,

Wade Harmon, all my position coaches to this day still call me. Les Decker was my position coach in 93 and 94. He knows, every one of my kids' birthday. He'll call me every, every birthday for Kari,

Kayla, and Kaly. Every last one of them. He still texted me, hey, he called me sweetheart. To this day, the man, the man never called me my name. He called me sweetheart. He's a sweetheart, I see you, I watch what you doing, blah, blah, blah. I love it. He said, I still see you still got that still passion.

I still see you work hard. To this day, every last one of my, position coach. So to have the type of relationship that maybe RG3 and Jay grew into some of the other coaching players, I wouldn't know anything about that, Ocho. I wouldn't. I really wouldn't. So I can't say how they should or shouldn't feel. I probably would feel some type of way if I didn't think my coaches were putting me up, putting me in a situation where I could succeed. Right. But I've always had great, great relationships. I can pick up the phone. I guarantee I can pick up the phone with Mike Shanahan and call it and say, Mike,

I want to come to the game, I want to come to the championship game, where you want to stand at 84? You want to be up in the booth or you want to be on the sideline. Go to the Super Bowl. I guarantee if the 49th is go to the Super Bowl, hey, Mike, I need two tickets to go to the Super Bowl.

Guaranteed. Right. Same thing with the Ravens. A. I see, that's the way I have it with the Bengals. If I ever need a thing, I don't know, you know, you know, I never take advantage of that

situation. Now that you mentioned it, I need to ask. I only go to one game of you. Man, Ocho, when the, the last time the Broncos went to the winter soup, but it was at Levi Stadium. Yeah. I call, I called Mr. B. Look, they got me, they got me credentials on the field, pre-game, post-game throughout the entire stadium. Right. So there's like, I was like, okay, I was like, damn, I'm gonna put, it's like, nah. So I'm in a, box. Just me. I said, well, who's going to be in the box with me? Like right now, nobody's Sharpie. Hell, I called through my home, but hey, man, I'll come to the game out here.

I got them passes. Right. Mr. B, I said, Mr. B, I'm like, Mr. B, I want to come to the game. He's like, okay, come on. I said, well, Mr. B, I ain't got no, he said, your face is your pass. That's your ID. He says, Sharpie, as long as I own the Broncos, you never have to pay for anything or show anything. your face is good here. I like that. Broncos and the Ravens

been good to 84. Obviously, I don't call. I don't do anything now. I mean, every day and then I might like, okay, you know, I call, I call a flip. And yeah, I like, flip, man, them been the Broncos, new helmets. Let me get one.

He'll send me a helmet and stuff like that. But for the most part, I don't bother. But it's that relationship that you have with people. So I don't know, like, RG3 got this kind of relationship with Jay Gruden. Yeah. Ocho, I can't speak with that. Yeah, they got to fix that too anyway, man. They got to fix that anyway.

I mean, a simple DM conversation, listen, this is whatever, whatever workout, whatever they need be. Again, it is entertaining to see because you don't see anything like that often. You know, we'll laugh about it now, but they can fix that. You've grown in now. but another thing about relationships and about friendships you got to be careful you got to be careful about the bridges

you burn because you never know when you have to go and walk walk back across them. Oh, Joe. You never know. What I tell you? You never know. The toes you step on the day

might be on the foot connected to the leg that lead to the butt you got a kiss tomorrow. Yeah. Be careful how you treat people. You never know who's in a position

that's equal to you that might be in a greater position to help you tomorrow. Yeah. You never know. Obviously, I understand what RG3 is doing and he can defend himself

but you don't know what bridge or gap that Jay Grude may know something and something you may want to do later in life and that relationship is the one that can bridge

that gap and whatever opportunity might present itself down the line. And, you know, I'm just speaking in general. So again, you have the right to defend yourself. Yes.

To say some of things you said, you know, I, listen, for it. It's entertaining. But RJ3 opened that up because it's like he said what you said. And then RJ3 like say what? Almost you're saying like you were doing the same thing to me. Oh, okay, okay. Okay, okay. I see.

I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. So that's entertaining. But, uh, red, red hood said, oh, you got to get the gold mask for the greatest dual threat quarterback. Lamarvellous Jackson. They're winning the Super Bowl. Brock Purdy would cost the 49ers

against elite teams with an elite quarterback. Man, I don't know. I got to, I get a Lamar Jackson. I get, they win the Super Bowl. I wear Lamar Jackson, Jersey, on, on first tape. That'd be dope. I like, I like to see that.

That's what I do. Hey, I like to see that. Because the goal man reserved for Gold James and I'm a home boy. So if I wore for him, I've already worn it for my homes. I've already worn it for LeBron. Right. So I have to get something else for Lamar.

But, man. Man, Baltimore go, man, you know, man, Baltimore, you think Baltimore we're crazy. We'll flackle won the Super Bowl. Man, you let Lamar win the Super Bowl. Man. What? For the culture, that's going to be different.

Man, if Lamar win the Super Bowl, they need to start putting this. They need to start putting this statue up right beside Ray. Don't even wait to be retired. Put it up beside Ray right now. Just put it up there now? You're going and put it up there right now. That'd be big.

That'd be big. I know who I know who went in Super Bowl next year. No. I mean, it doesn't even sound right, Ocho. What don't? Super Bowl champ, Cincinnati Bengals. It don't even sound right. Can I ask you a question?

Yeah. Where is the Super Bowl next year? Where is the school? Miami? No, wait, where is it at? New Orleans? Yeah, all right.

Now, let me stay with me now. I'm going to tell you how to script. I'm going to tell you how the storyline. In New Orleans. Yeah. Where, um, with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase went to school? Oh, Lord, have mercy.

You see, you see where I'm going? These, these are the type of stories of NFL likes and loves. Huh? Stay with me, now. Joe Burrow, hold on. Joe Burrow from Ohio. I know where he's from. I'm talking about the storyline.

Well, he went to Ohio State. The Super Bowl is in the World. The Super Bowl is in New Orleans. I just told you, stay with me. You're not, you're not staying with me. You're all over the place. I'm going to follow. I'm going to that writer.

LSU. Okay, yeah. You're from Ohio, which you played your collegiate ball at LSU. Super Bowl is in New Orleans. Pieces together. You see, you see where I'm going with this? Yeah.

That's a great, the storyline in itself. So where are my going? Lamar will retire for a year to let him get let him win the division oh listen listen I love the Ravens I love what the Ravens doing but when healthy we get healthy Joe Bell y'all can't be Lamar when he's healthy she did well listen listen we get better on the games next year ahead of time if you want to when Joe Burroughs back in healthy we don't see the Ravens yeah right you can't see them yeah all right remember L Jack L Jack hit that spin move on that they're still showing that movie hit on y'all in Cincinnati that that's that

That was nice. He's special. He's special. He held out the X. He held out of the X. And then Max was square at the same time. That was a good one. Donnie said there was a report this offseason that Mick Mill, who is friends with Robert Kraft, told Kraft that Lamar wanted to be a patriot.

Craft said it was up to bill. Imagine what could have been. Nah. That ain't, that ain't happening. Lamar ain't say that. Lamar, look, Lamar wanted to get paid. He wanted to get what he felt he had earned. I've been an MVP.

I've been an all pro. I've gone to the Pro Bowl. I've won division. I've led you to the playoffs. Compensate me like all the other quarterbacks that get compensated. That's done less than what I've done. Right. That was his gripe.

Lamar never wanted to leave, but he felt he might have had to leave in order to get what he felt he earned. Right. He had earned it. I'm an MVP. I've led you to the playoffs. I've won the division. What more can I do?

Because you say, well, we're a Super Bowl. There's a lot of guys that have won, that have gotten paid that ain't won a Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. But why is that the criteria for me when it's not the criteria for anyone else? Yeah, well, you know, depending on who it is we're talking about. Right.

The criteria always changes. They always find the criteria to go against you based on what the standpoint is or what it is you want or trying to receive. Well, we know that game. We know that game also well.

Well, El Jack, Lamar Jackson, La Marvelous, whatever they call him in Baltimore, he's living, he's, he's lived up

to what they thought. I don't think they thought this. I don't think, because here's the thing, if you thought he was going to be this, you'd have taken him earlier in the first round, not trade back into the first round.

You didn't think you were going to have a two-time league MVP and a possible Super Bowl winner on your hand. You hope, like, man, I hope because, no, I thought he could be good. I think he'd be this good. Yeah. You watch him in his, uh, Heisman trophy winning season, and you watch the way he threw the ball, and you watch the way he run the football. A guy threw for 3,500, rushed for 50, 100.

You're like, okay, the kid's special. Yeah. How are they going to translate? A two-time league MVP of a possible Super Bowl? Now you're talking about, hey, there's a chance, hey, Lamar Jackson could crack the top five. Yeah. Yeah. Hell, he wasn't.

He's going to the top. Listen, I'm putting him in the top 10. If he wins the MVP and Super Bowl, Lamar Jackson is already a top 10 quarterback. Yeah. Ever. Is there a due threat quarterback in the top five? Everything is just pocket passes. I mean, yeah, it all depends where you have Lway, Steve, Yon,

won two MVP. He won a Super Bowl MVP, but I don't think he didn't, Steve had a very, people don't realize Steve had a very short career. Yeah. Because Joe,

Joe left in 93. Steve took over 93. Steve only had like six years of like starting. That's it? Yeah, he was a backup. He was the backup all those years. Joe got hurt.

I think he won the MVP in 92. Mm-hmm. I think he won the MVP in 92. I think he won it again. I know he won two MV. If I'm not mistaken, I think Steve Young won two MVP's. And he started from, what, 93 to 90? Yeah, 92 and 94.

Hmm. Because Farb went 95, 96, 97. They tied him, he and Barry. They were co-MvPs in 97. TD won in the 98. Kurt won in the 99, Kurt Warner. Oh, that was a, uh, 2000. The greatest show on turf.

Yeah. So, hey, Uncan Ocho, Day 1 fan. Did y'all see MLK Mean going viral with Raymond Games? Dr. King's daughter, Bernice King, reposted on Twitter. The guys, somebody said, MLK, the resurrected to witness, Lamar playoff master. Oh, at the game, dude, did he look just like him? He did. He did.

I saw that. Look just like him. RDR Food. What's up, Uncanocho? Question. Why do you have think more team? sit their rookie QBs like Green Bay.

Why don't you think more teams sit their rookie quarterbacks like Green Bay as traditionally? So you got a MVP. So what team got MVP's playing? Yeah, you don't have no MVP's in front of you. That's different. You ain't got no choice but to sit.

Right. Brett Farb was a three-time league MVP when Aaron Rogers got there. Jordan Love was sitting behind a two-time league MVP when he got there. Yeah. I come on now. Yeah.

I mean, all things being equal, yeah, you would like to have a guy be able to sit. But more times than not, you don't have that luxury. Because normally when you draft the quarterback, you're bad and you got to put him in the game. Yeah. I mean, C.J. Stroud, he had to play. There wasn't nobody in front of him. But they were a bad team. They had the second pick in the draft.

Yeah. I mean, you love to have the guy sit, get a year up on his belt. Everybody is not like a Peyton Manning. You see Patrick Mahomes sought for a year. Boom. Tom Brady, side for a year. He was about to sit for the second year

until Mo Lewis put that hit on Drew Blasso. On Drew Bletso? Yep. So Michael Vick's at Chris Chirley was the starter. That's right. And then Mike ended up coming in late in the season. I forgot about that. Yeah.

I mean, so all things being equal, you would like for your rookie quarterback to see try to learn through osmosis. Some people, there's a different rule. Some people say, throw his ass in the game. And some people say, hey, let him sit for a year. It just all depends. It all depends on the guy. And you know what?

You would always want your rookie quarterback for those that you just throw in the game. You throw them, I call it throwing them to the sharks. You would always hope it comes out like C.J. Stroud, like that type of play as a rookie. When you get that, that's very. very promising, very, very promising. Because now you know you have somebody that you can build around and you set. You got your quarterback for the next 10 years. Yeah.

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field goal, how frustrating does it feel as a player to be in this position? Well, yeah, obviously, you don't want to miss a field goal, but you think back to the missed opportunities that you had early. On a fourth or on fourth and a foot, you didn't get it. And then you settle for field goals when you, I mean, and you could have scored touchdowns. So all of a sudden, all that replays in your mind, what could have been as you feel the game start to slip away. But still, even as the game, they still had an opportunity to go down and get a field goal to tie the game or potential touchdown to win the game.

So all wasn't lost. Yeah, anytime you miss a field goal, especially points at a premium come playoff time because the likelihood of you, you know, racing up and down the field, the momentum doesn't really shift like it does in the regular season game. But I think it's a lot that has to do with replaying

the opportunities that you let get away early in the ball game. Yeah, I mean, it's hard for me to talk about playoff atmospheres and missing, missing field goals or not scoring points because I wasn't in those situations very often. So outside of Madden, I don't think it's appropriate for me to be answering that one. Nick Lepsit, hey, Okinaultjo, if two former players, can you experience an emotional drain in one game and come up short the following week

or is it just riding that high? No, no, I mean, I've never experienced that and I heard like, I mean, I've been very fortunate. I mean, we won the playoffs. We normally went on and won the Super Bowl. So what? I think I'm like 13 and 5 in the playoffs. No, I've never experienced that. I remember we came back and we ended up beating the Houston Orleans when they were in Houston.

They beat the brakes off us in the old. old Astrodome, man, that place was loud. Ocho, you talk about loud. Yeah. They call it the House of Paint. That was the name of it. And their defense was really good. And they beat us, but they had to come to us because we ended up winning the division and they had to come to us. And they had us down the whole game and then Elway pulled out the magic. We end up beating them and we go on the road. Now remember I told you,

91, I dropped the touchdown in the South End zone that would have given us on field. Right. So now instead of going to Buffalo, Buffalo would have had to come to us. We lose 10-7 and we miss three field goals. Dang. So I replayed that. That's one of the few games.

The game, the game that we, the Jacksonville game, we end up losing in 90s and 96 that knocked us out. We had the best seat. We had the best team with number one seed. and Jacksonville come beat us in that game. And I'm the drop when I dropped the pass against the Raiders. So that's the game that I replay in my mind over and over and over and over and over again.

It's those games. It's games like that. Not, not, you know, I don't, you know, I don't, I don't replay the catch that I had in the black hole against the Raiders when I was with Baltimore. I don't replay the third down catch that I had at, at a, in three rivers. I don't replay those in my mind nearly as much as I played that, that drop that I had in the South Ends on against the Raiders

in that Jacksonville game. And that's what, that's, that's the hard part, Ocho, is that you remember the losses way more than you celebrate the wins. Yeah. Yeah. Shit, and speaking of that, I have so many losses throughout my tenure.

It's hard for me to. You must be immune to them by now. It's difficult. They ask some questions tonight that I really can't partake in because I ain't have no playoff experience, but whatever. Call me Roe. Hey, Uncan Ocho, I went to the Lions game last week, and it was a record for how loud it was.

As a player, how much does crowd noise affect the game, especially if you're playing in the dome? It gets loud, but see, not everybody goes with the silent snap count. Yeah. So it doesn't have the impact that it once did because, you know, you're trying to yell and scream. Now you just go on the side of snap count.

The guard normally looks back, the quarterback like, operating, and he'll do that for the center. Center snaps the ball. Right. So you just get used to it. You practice it with crowd noise. Everybody, you play. I don't know how y'all did it, Ocho, but we played a crowd.

Yeah. They had a speaker that during that week, and they played the crowd noise to our practice. Yes. That's how we did it. And what helps? What help does is that we were very simplistic. Hey, we ought to be into handoff or toss. Right, one of the other.

That's it. Toss week, handoff strong. That's what we ought to be to. All day, you try to get queued and try to say, oh, you run up and down a line of and scrimping, oh, you're going to do this right here and doing all that stuff, right? Toss and handoff. We come and stop it. Yeah.

That's it. Great. I think the Houston, Texas are the best team out of Texas. What are your thoughts on those young bulls? It's hard to argue. It's hard to argue. It made the second round, huh? Made it to the second round.

I mean, Cowboys, hey, bro, at the end of the day, man, you got to be about it. You can't talk about it. They do a lot of talking, not a lot of playing. They're going to get it together, man. I think next year the cowboy year. I think, I think, you know, next year is a cowboy. You said that last year.

Oh, I ain't say that. They said, I'm just regurgitating what they say. I'm just trying to get the people hope. Repetitions of a lie don't make it truth. Mm-hmm. Repetition of a lie. Don't make it. I'm definitely going to use that on her.

The Cowboys of Texas next year, which team would benefit? fit the most by signing Derek Henry. Yeah, I did say Cowboys. That would be nice. Lice of Thunder and Lightning. Mm-hmm. No Pollard, Henry.

That'd be nice. You see the difference between when Pollard got to carry that bill, got to carry that mail, and he ain't got Zeke to spell him. And Zieg getting all those tough yards. And now they're asking him to cram that thing up in there and get those tough yards. He didn't look. He didn't look this year like he looked last year did the old show.

He's not built like that. That's not what he does. You didn't have the frame for that. He's not your workhorse. And they can blame Zeke. They couldn't blame Zeke. Zeke wasn't there. But Zeke was getting them tough yards in New England.

You didn't realize how much you was going to miss Zeke on the third and short, fourth and short, and the go-to-go situations. Right, right. But I think Derek, I think Derek would be great for the Cowboys. Yeah. But here's the thing, No, Ocho. When you pay a guy that kind of money,

you're paying him, you paying him $40, $45 million to turn around and hand the ball off or to throw the football. Go to the football. But you're going to need that run a game, especially going to playoff time. I understand that. You're going to need that run a game, you know, to chew that clock up.

Well, that's Mike McCarthy told that lie. Mike McCarthy told a lie. He fired Kellen Moore because they wanted to be a more, they wanted to be a more balanced football team. They threw the ball more last year than they did the previous year with Kellen Moore. that's five. Yeah, you're right.

You're right. Well, sometimes, you know, sometimes, you know, you lie to get what you want. It happens in life? I like to see D. Henry. I like to see King Henry with the Cowboys. That'd be a nice addition.

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How many in the chat? Wow. We got 40,000 in the chat, Ocho. Hey, chat, I love you. All 40,000 of you. I love you. If you need me, call me. If you have anything going on,

you know, I know the New Year's just started. Hit my line. I got you. I might say no. I might say no, but that's not the fact. The fact that I'm here for you in a time I'm need, it says a lot.

It says a lot. guys, I know 40,000. Hey, y'all hit that like button, hit the subscribe button. I know all 40,000. We appreciate you. I don't want you to think that we're not appreciative of that you're actually watching and listening to us in the chat. But hit that subscribe button. I know, I know if we can just get, if we can get like 10, 15% of y'all to hit that subscribe button right now.

I would greatly, greatly appreciate that. Now, I ain't on them blue diamonds a nightmare. I just, man, I, you back, guys, y'all want you boil them down. Diamonds all the time. Yeah, that's going to mess up your level, now. Going to mess up your level. It is. I don't know.

I just hear that all the time. I did hear that tell about, I did hear to tell me it. It mess with your eyesight. Tell me, you might go blind with them diamonds. For real? Yeah, I'll be in that thing like, uh. Hey, well, you're going to be, you look like Eddie James. Hey, I ain't going to say, I go say it.

Yeah, you can't sing it. You can't sing it. You can't see it. Hey. I mean, hey, it ain't stopped Stevie. It ain't stopped Stephen

from doing, doing, shaking the cover. It didn't stop Ray Charles from shaking the cover. Yeah, oh,

but Ray Charles would loose with it, but. Yay. So what, what that mean if I can't see? He didn't play. I know all they do.

I know the other I can see. I might not can see, but the other I can see. Man, I'll show you crazy, man. Hey. There's nothing wrong with you, Ocho.

No. Man, what's that? What's it? Oh, that's funny. Ryan, and, hold on, Gabe Romance, hey there,

where can I get them special La Porteade bottles to stash you for a Houston upcoming Super Bowl run? Love the Pog. Bring on Andre Johnson. Gray. Drey.

We're about, if I'm not mistaken, we might be just about out of those, the first 25,000 was numbered, went through 25,000. And if I'm not mistaken, I think that run is about out. It might be already out, if I'm not mistaken. So Gabe, I don't know what to tell you.

You'd have to click the link and see. But if I'm not mistaken, I think we're out or pretty close to being out. But I appreciate the support. Ryan asked, will Leporte eventually be able to ship to the beautiful sub-tropical island of Key West Florida. I like a bottle for the Super Bowl. I think we ship to Florida. Yeah.

Key West right down the street from me. Well, I have Ocho bring your bottle. David. I drive it down there. What's up? The La Portier is amazing. I don't drink, but after the only thing I touch in Ocho, that song with, what is that?

John LaJoy. I'm inside of me. It's questionable. If that's you being a rapper, put your two weeks notice with Apple music. You was rapping, Ocho? I think, he probably talked about the commercial I just did.

Oh, he said, inside me? Yeah. That's from the TV show long, long time ago, long, long, long time ago. Oh, you was rapping? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I do a little bit of everything. I should have wanted to ask him.

I should have wanted to ask him for that appearance, but. For TV? No, you went in me for TV. Oh, wait, I should have won an Emmy. You're right. I should want to Emmy. I should have won a Emmy. Or maybe a golden hole.

Yeah, I had a few awards where I should have won an Emmy, but it just didn't have. You didn't happen? Okay. Nah. I'm going to get one, though. Faith said, hey, Ocho and Shannon. I've been researching paid equity and learned sports analysis. Former players make less than their counterpart.

Former players are subject matter, expert, and often increased viewership. What's being done to bridge. the gap pay equity she's saying uh she's been researching equity and learned sports analysts former players make less than their counterpart they do um former players are subject matter expert and often increased viewership what's being done is to bridge the gap so shoot the only person that can bridge the gap is the person that's cutting the check exactly that's it that's it's it and the better you are at your job as far as viewership goes

content, the knowledge you do have, the research you do do and what you bring to the table then you create you create the demand for higher pay. Correct. That all comes from within especially once you're not on the football field.

Yes. You're right. I mean yeah I believe because here's the thing. These jobs I mean there are people retiring every year from the NFL. And if you have one of these jobs, you try to hold on to it.

Because there's so many people that's retiring and, you know, names and, you know, they love names, especially if there's a quarterback. Yeah. They get first dibs. And then it goes your big, your big tier wide receivers, defensive players.

Yeah. That's how it goes. Now, I don't listen to the sound, but a lot of people say they like Greg Olson. They like Tony Romo. Normally quarterbacks get those jobs. You see Troy Aitman. You see Romo,

Don Meredith, Dan Fouts. a lot of time the quarterback get those jobs, but I don't really know what, like you said, like what you said, I mean,

basically it's going to come down to the guy that's cutting the checks. And then what all do you bring to the table? Yeah. Now entertaining you are, I mean, do people, are you polarizing?

Mm-hmm. People like who they like. John R. Kelly, Kerry said, I need a party. But non-democrat, welcome to be fans at nightcap and club Shesh. Absolutely. Absolutely.

We're non-political here. But we do give it a point. We will give you an opinion. Rob Lee says, hey, Uncle and Tocho. I like, let's catch it on. Tocchio. Have you been huge for me for years? I wanted to ask for a shout out to my girlfriend, Pitches.

Love you guys. Hey, Peaches. I don't know. That's your girlfriend real name? I hope you don't know when they call her Peaches. That's a nickname.

That's a cool nickname. You got to be a nickname. That might be, I mean, Peaches is a... Yeah, you're right. You're right. It might be her name. Hey, you remember a Snowfall?

Yeah. With Peaches, yeah. Peeches, yeah. Stored up that money and dipped on them. They found peaches yet. No, they found peaches. Remember people with the pizza behind in the house?

Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah. He was hot. He didn't I blew that money though. D. Ray Davis was hiding and he had nothing left. Yeah. Yeah, you're right about that, oh, Cheney. Man, I can't believe Peaches did that, man. Peach is you dirty. And listen. Money will do that.

When money comes involved, when money is involved, it made people do strange things, man. Like I had country Wayne on it. He said, hey, and somebody hit him up for like 15 grand. He said, with like a friend. Whoa, 15. 15, yeah. And he said, he said, sometimes you got to help people not disappoint you by not putting

him in situations where they can disappoint you. So, you know, he probably had the money. I probably, you know, back of the day when he was, you know, had a stash house or something, trusting people. Right. He hit him up. He said, sometimes you got to help people not disappoint you. Right.

And you're right. You're absolutely right. Yeah. one. Hey, Uncle, a huge fan. Is it reasonable to break up with someone

because they don't have the same ambition that desire for success? Please help your nephew out. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. I don't know what took you so long.

You need to ask me in Ocho for that. What? Had nobody holding you back? Shit, you right here busting your ass trying to make some of yourself. You got somebody with no drive, no enthusiasm,

no want to. Well, you better, shit, tell him to kick the bucket. Yeah. Now, we don't want to kick the bucket, but they need to kick rocks. We don't want to kick the bucket. We want them kick rock, my bad. Kick rocks.

Yeah, yeah. Wave check. Yeah. What's up, Ocho, uh, uh, Ong and Tocho. Do you remember your first kiss? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Kindergarten.

I never forget. Amy, Amy Beth. Yeah, Amy Beth. You slipped a little tongue in? No, I ain't put no tongue in there. I ain't put no tongue in there. No, no, I ain't. I won that one.

I won that experience. I wanted that. Okay. Okay. There's nothing wrong with that. And they went another little pop, and I gave a, uh, You got a little pet? Yeah, and a little Jolly Rancher. I gave a, yeah.

Strawberry Jolly Rancher. I never forget. That's all right, don't you? Yeah, yeah. I wonder how Amy Beth doing, too. Oh, that's throwback. Man, I can't even remember. I don't, I don't.

I'm not going to be like, I don't remember the first, I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember my first kiss. I don't. I probably, I probably, I probably,

I probably, I probably, that's a little, I probably sit in a little tongue, though. I probably put that little baby D on them. I put that baby D on them. Hold on, hold on, the first kiss? Yeah, yeah.

Come on. I was managed. I was managed. Wait, hold on. So how when I ask you to do certain things at our big age, it's frowned upon, but you was managed back then? Oh, yeah, yeah. But you know, man.

We need that energy you had back then right now. Them young boys ruin it. Them young boys ruin it. Because they're coming in off the rip. They're coming in hot. They eat up everybody. They come out. They eat up.

Everybody played from the jump. Listen, if the young boys coming hot, you got to come in hotter. Nah, man. Nah, man. Don't let them out. You can't let them out, do you, man. Yeah, they are. You got to keep up now.

You got to keep up. You're acting like old outdated software. We need you to evolve. Evolve with the times. If I ain't know, but that's where them old boys had jobs at the post office, licking stamps in the back. Because they look at everything from the junk,

Bocho. I mean, I think, all on, did y'all work in the post office? was in the back, look at stamps. You know what I see? They got the new thing now that they put the stamp on. These young boys coming to that thing hot. I said, oh, whoa, whoa.

Yo, that's how you got to be. I said, they're doing this off the rip. That's how you got to be. They're doing this off the rip and they buying cars, paying rent and buying the L.S. I said, no, one of the other. I got to throw me out. You get one of the other.

I can't do all that. You got to give them the whole package. Oh, man. I mean, listen, you're already a provider. You're already able to help, you know, when people ask for things, you might as well, once you add the other dynamic to it, you know, the toes, you know, from hair and the toe, when you go to the car wash, you get the car detail, they touch everything.

They hit you from back to the front. No. You hear me? I want one more shade. I want to more shade trees, y'all. Get the whole pipe and squeeze. I can't go get the whole detail. I, oh, no, no, nah, nah, y'all do it too much.

These young boys, though, these young boys, out the chain, though. I hear about the young boy. You got to catch up. I see, I guess that's why you boy out of gas. That's why ain't nobody wants me because they're going to hurt about shape. You got you got to catch up. You got to catch up. At some point, you got to evolve. At some point, you got

devolved. Or you're going to get left behind. When they left behind? Hey, you're going to be like, I'm going to call you Wilson. I'm going to call you Wilson. I'm going to call you Wilson, like castaway. You're going to be Wilson right there by yourself. I'm on the island by myself.

Can we work up? I mean, you can't come in from the dough. Oh, Joe, you get it from the dough. You got it from the dough. Kick the motherfucker in. You got to kick the dough in. You got to kick the, you got, listen, you can't use the old outdated 1950 methods in today's society.

But the plays still work. It don't, it don't work. May the playbook still work. With who? You know, it don't work. It don't work. I guess. I guess that's why you're,

old poor hustle over here by itself. Nah, we're going to get you together. I'm all alone. There's no one beside me. Yeah, there you go. By myself. Myself. But yeah, y'all need slow down.

These young boy, hey, young boy, slow down now. Man, let them 55-year-old catch up with y'all. You got to step on that. They got to step on the gas, boy. Don't you got a charger? What's that you got a hellcat? I got a challenger. Yeah, I got a black ghost.

Yeah, you got a black ghost. You know how you drive that? Yeah, I mean, you put the pedal to the metal? But not from the, oh, too. I mean, as soon as I got the car, you know, I had to like, and it started purring, like, woo. Yeah. You know, I let it build up.

Y'all let it build up. Y'all get the car. Goes go straight. I know, Dan, you ain't got no black ghost about you let it build up. Build up what? Oh, Joe. How y'all go go, y'all go straight to the track. Y'all go straight to the race track and put the car on the track.

Straight to the track. I mean, that's the point. That's why they built the engine. That's what the engine was built for. That's what the engine was built for. God put you out here and you have a perfect. Am I wrong? Hey, hey, Chad.

I ain't wrong. Come on, man. That got to slow down. They're speeding. Everybody ain't meant to be in the far left lane, Ocho. Everybody ain't meant to be in the, look here. They got six lanes. On the phone, five, to 10 to 110.

We got six lanes out here. Everybody ain't in the left lane, damn it. Everybody need to be in the left lane. No, the hell they don't. Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow ain't promised. you're waiting for? Tomorrow's not promised. What's you waiting for?

Why are you wasting time? Ain't nobody wasting no time, Ocho? But everybody is coming off the muscle like that. It's wasting time. I'm just telling you it is. It's just a waste of time.

Smoking mirrors. It's just smoking mirrors. You know, it's just cream filling. Hey, fuck that. Just give me the donut. Just give me the donut. I don't want all a... Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, Ocho.

I got to slow down. I got to slow down. We're going to work with you. You know, we're going to, when we be in Vegas, in Vegas, we're going to work with you in Vegas and try to try to guide you since I'll be able to see you in person. I have something for you lined up. Huh? I'm going to have somebody for you lined up in Vegas.

No, you got nobody lined up for me because they, they, they, they, they did, I, I, I ain't young. Huh? I ain't young. You, you're not young, but we're going to make sure you act, you act young. We need you to move. move young. You got to, you got to do things different. The baby I'm young, but I ain't young. That baby aren't work.

The baby all work. I'll be on the diamonds. I'll be on the job. I'm going to be on. Your heart. Hard. Hold on. I got to be. I'm trying not to wake up. Man, hold on. Nick, what you're talking about? Can you please, please speak on the benefits of spanking in the bathroom. It increases blood flow, is affectionate, and

is hot when done right, unless you're crazy. It's amazing needs to be promoted more. Nah, hell no, Nick, I ain't with you on that one. You by yourself. You want to do what in the bathroom? No, he'd be watching Spankton Division. What's that? You know, when the movies come on. You know,

the movies, the movie come on. Oh. Oh, I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I know. Hell not. I'm lost a little bit. Nah, he, he, you know. Give me another clue. Give me another clue so I get it. Can you please, please speak on the benefits of spanking in the bedroom?

It increases blood flow. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, I got to, I got to keep it cute with that one. I got to keep it cute. Nah, man. I mean, all the stuff that you used to be able to do that you could get away with, Yeah. You know, I used to be a cop.

You know, I kept myself cuffs on. Yeah, I like that. Cuff up. I like I work in the system. Cuff up. Not no more. Not no more. No?

No hell no. Why not? No, man. That's a good one right there. No. Like I said, a lot of stuff that it used to be, go down on, you used to go down. Right.

Can't go down no more. Bang. That's a good one, though. As a matter of fact, I'm probably to go to the dentist to have all my teeth took it out, take it out. So I can't bite nobody. But gum, mu, my, ha. Oh, just a different time, Ocho Man.

Yeah. Stuff that we used to be able to do, you know, uh-uh. That's an, like you, you fight in it and you're not understanding. You talk about this a different time. but you're doing nothing to evolve with the times. Like, you know, you, you IBM, everybody else using Apple and you IBM, you, Hewlett-Packard. I'm dial-up.

I'm A-O-L. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. And none of that is compatible in today's society. So you get left behind. It makes no sense. makes no sense

you got to change your routine up you got to change your routine up yeah what you do back of the day oh yo you know hey I'm a little friggin

you know you know old old lieutenant I was a captain yeah yeah there you go you know

cowboy you don't have you a little you know not no more had to buy you ain't no fun no more I'm sorry baby

yeah You don't want them to do that. You can't, don't, don't let them tell you you're not no fun because then they go get the young bulls. Then they go get them young bulls. Back in the night, hey, I don't have, I had, I haven't been to the rode you a couple of times. I'm good, Ocho.

Yeah, I got you. I guess you. I'm with you when you're right off. You can't do all the stuff that you used to do, Ocho, you know. Oh, I can. I can. More power to you. Plus some.

Well, I guess I need to get married then so I can do all I used to do. Huh. Listen, man. I'm like, I'm 10 different, 10 different people, 10 different personalities. That's how I used to be, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah, man. As I did, how you used to be.

I'm still like that. I'm finding ways to reinvent myself. I'm finding ways to keep that spark, to keep it fun. What's another word I'm looking for? You know, it's just, it's weird. trying to find new ways to fall in love again. Trying to find new ways to have fun again. Yeah.

Trying to find new ways to make it feel fresh again, even though we're still the same individual. Just, oh, that shit is work, man. And I don't mean to be going into all that shit, but that shit is hard. Hard, don't you? It's hard, boy. It's hard.

You see, my manner is and my whole tone change. Yeah, yeah. That's shit hard, man. You get them down, Put one of them diamonds on you. That shit costs too much, boy. That's all right. Yeah, I saw the price of them.

Four eight hours, for four eight hours. Yeah. They'll be in trouble. I like it. I like it. Damn. Yeah, I don't want to send my baby to the ER now. No, it's just...

See, they forget all about... They forget all about the young boys used to do. When them die when the baby arm come out. You're good. And it just... Undisputed. No. How about the student?

Hey, boy, champ. I forgot to show my jersey tonight, man. Uncle and Otocho. Who are some of the athletes had great potential, but due to circumstances, we look back on their lives what could have been.

Two people that come to mind are Greg Oden and Brandon Roy. Well, Greg Oden. Greg, really was the injuries. Yes. Brandon Roy, same thing. Bo Jackson. Injuries.

Most of the time, it's because of injuries. I think that's one of the few things that's cut players that we've we've deemed to be great that were picked early. Wow, okay. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Hey, and Rob said, love y'all, man, and Peaches is a real name. Oh, okay. So.

Peaches. Oh, Joey, they say, stop leaving that water box, uh, that label on that water. Oh, shit. You try to get free advertising. How bad. Okay, I watch a Hall of Fame speech earlier today. is one of the best, got me in my emotions. Your brother still deserves to be in there.

Well, hopefully, Jason, one day. That was from the heart. I mean, you know, people have asked, how long did it take me to write that speech? I'd say the speech has been writing itself for 43 years. You wanted to get started, but I already knew. I knew the sequence, the sequence in which I was going to go. and you just go.

Actually, I have a copy. I think I'm going to give a copy to Savannah State about a Hall of Fame speech. I got a Hall of Fame speech too. You got one on debt? Yeah. Matter of fact, I want music.

I want music when I walk out. I don't think that's going to happen, Ocho. Quick question for Ocho. I'm a big fan of yours. I think you should be in the Hall of Fame. But do you think you're a better receiver than Tio, honestly? No cap, bro. I'm a better receiver than everybody.

Huh? Talk about, man. I'm also, man. You know how good I would. You want to know how good I was? I was so good. Stay with me, that, chat. I was so good, huh?

I changed my last name to a number that was spelled incorrectly. You know how good you got to be to do that, huh? and it be accepted, that's how good I was. Nah, them boy, t-nigger, T-O-T-O was different, man. T-O different. T-O was the dog. The only best they ever played the goddamn game. Whatever was the dog.

You hear me? Let's call. Let's, oh, oh, no, is that? No, I was, I was from the bug, Tio, man. Hey, that boy was, that boy. Oh, yeah. Well, hey, I got a, look. For me, you know, I've said this.

I've told Tio this, me, I've got him, I got him number two behind Jerry. Yeah. I mean, now, I don't know what's going to happen in the next 30 years. But, but Jerry, I mean, people, see, I think the thing is,

Ocho, people don't realize just how good Jerry was. Because Jerry ain't got no one-handed catch. He didn't jump over anybody. Right. Jerry was that car that always cranked, got you to work for 20 straight years. So like a Honda,

like a Honda, like a 96 Honda. And nobody was like, who man, look at that car. Jay would just like that. I like that. You already know what you're going to get with Jerry. Yeah, that's a good analogy.

I like that. Consistent, reliable. Yeah, okay. Edwin, I was there, my daughter's birthday. She turns 15. Happy birthday. Shout out to Brianna, Raina Alvarez. Happy birthday, Brianna.

Happy 15th. Oh, she turns 15 on Tuesday. Happy birthday, Brianna. Enjoy your day and eat lots of cake. Paisley Jones, what's up, Uncanocho? Just want to tell you blessings. And today is my birthday. Paisley, happy birthday.

Happy birthday. Okay, Dr. Frank L. Bellamy is back. Hey, Uncinocho, why don't you post what you eat for breakfast anymore? Them paper plays have me ready for a barbecue. I don't eat no. but burritos now. And plus half the time I don't eat because I'd be trying to get out because I'd be trying to get that last little bit of sleep.

I'd be trying to get that last little bit of sleep. I ain't got time to be eating. And first take, though, they don't provide breakfast for me when I'm here in, when I'm here in L.A. They do provide breakfast for me when I'm in New York, but somebody else eat the breakfast. Somebody else be eating the breakfast. Jordan be eating the breakfast

Ash is not a breakfast person she just be on an expensive expensive shoe expensive bulljive on my room that's what Ash be doing coming down to my room this looks nice you know they do got that in your room too

that same menu that you got right here my room they got it in your room exactly exactly different credit cards Michael Chey and said love the show guys been here since they were up Howard Stern talked about club Shet Shay on the show the last show

the last few weeks. Would you ever be a guest on this show? I think it would be a great promo out there for Shay Shayay Nightcap. Sure. He had a problem about Howard Stern, man, look. That's that boy, boy. He started. One of the first, one of the originators.

Yeah, yeah. I like for him to come on Club Shire. They should, too. That's a good one. You bet you, there you want some controversy. There you go right there. I don't think it'd be that controversy. Shit.

But I saw his movie. I actually saw his movie when it came out many, many years ago. Larry Williams said, my son wants to play football. He's in the eighth grade. Is it too late to start? Nope. It's about the right age. Probably about 13.

Knowing what we know now, I mean, if I had a son, I probably would let him play tackle football to leave about 13. 12, 13. Let him play flag. Yeah, let him play flag, but not tackle. Get to get the fundamentals, get the basics right. Yeah, me, but I had, hey, I think I played. I think I was like, I think I was like eight, nine.

I was four. Seven to seven, yeah, I was like nine. I was, I was, I was for, you know, we started four years old out here. Liberty City Optimus. Mm-hmm. Thomas said, Gil did all that working out. putting up 12 shots in the gym every day. I only scored 12 points in the shootout.

What do y'all have to? He lost? Gill lost the shootout. To who? Hold on, chat. Did Gil lose the shootout? Who he shot out against with? I mean, who did he shootout with?

Okay. No, I'm just, I'm shocked. I know Goodwell. I know Goodwell ain't, I know Goodwell ain't, Gill ain't lose, ain't lose, no, at the shootout. The Gil lose. Who did he shoot against?

Gil lost? No, who? Come on. Hold on. Hold on, Gil. Now, you don't talk about you're going to outshut all them guys on the Lakers bench that's getting major minutes, and you got beat by some YouTube. Where the hell beat Gil?

Oh, you got beat by a YouTuber? Who beat Gil, y'all? I need some names. I need footage. Somebody sent me the footage to my Twitter, please. Damn, Gil. Gil, if you didn't you lose to a guy that was in the NBA, I'm going to tear your ass up on winning.

I don't know that way you ain't lose. What a man named was, a dude named Anthony, Anthony Miracola. So you age as zero, I guess he's special agent. Because you know an ATF, they have what they call a sack, which is a special agent in charge. Come on, Gil. I need footage. I got to see this.

I don't need no footage, Gil lost. Somebody sent me the clip to my Twitter, please. Me and Gil got to work on a shot, you know. And I helped him out back in the day during his playing days. Man, Gil. I got some air max. Y'all know what these are? 95s.

Not 95, don't you? They mean 95? No. 96. Oh, Lord, that mercy. I don't wear it, Max. So. I'm going to show you my jersey.

You know who that is? Zinidine, Zadon. Okay. Okay. There we go. We get somewhere. Yeah, you know, I'll be going. There we go.

There we go. We get somewhere. I like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. Yeah.

man, you let dude beat you in the first. Okay, if you lost in the finals, hey, I can say, you know what, Gil, you've been shooting a lot. Gil, how many shots Gil make? Somebody sent me the clip of Gil losing, man. Damn, Gil. Damn, damn, damn, damn, yeah. Oh, man.

Oh, damn, somebody sent it to me that damn fast. Man, they cook Gil. Oh, there's some, some dude hit like 43, 42-3s. Is that it? Well, hell, the Lakers should sign him. Anthony Maricola, the best shooter in the world. Okay, I see if he lost to my guy, Lethal Shooter. If you lost to him, Gil, I said, okay, Gil,

I said, okay, Gil, chalked that one up, hey, it happens sometimes. Who is Lethal Shooter? He didn't want to be happy people with this shot. Oh. Okay He that good or something? Man, I'm a He's like, he made me curse on Joe

He'd be shooting that ball into that little ass hoop The ball can barely fit in that hoop Right, he'd be shooting the gut The goal be spinning around And he'd be draining it Mm-hmm Dude made 42 or 50 Yeah, Gil, you lost that one, bro.

I guess he was practicing too. Oh, I see lethal shooter name right here. Mm-hmm. Man, you don't want to see me. Man, I'll beat you, Ocho, so I know you. See, I didn't tell you my stories on prominent. Ocho, you didn't even play basketball in high school. What you mean in high school?

You didn't play basketball in high school. Yes, I did. I dropped 38, 12, and 10 a night. What you're talking about? What's you talking about, man? Here. Check, man, check. Miami B Senior High

1996, 1995, I understand in the high school but if you ain't play no basketball you ain't shooting no hoops I just told you

what I did I just gave you my stats I was a freshman 38, 12 and 10 oh Lord have mercy I like that no you're not

all right well see me on the court then see me on the court see me on the court is that rain oh Lord have mercy.

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