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Episode Date: October 6, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the Chicago Bears win over the Washington Commanders, Shannon's interview with Marshawn Lynch on 'Club Shay Shay', the latest with Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift, vacation destinations, and more.  #Volume #Herd #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us again for another edition of Nightcap. I'm your favorite, Unc, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, one of the best route runners in the NFL history.

No, no, no, no, no. One of the best, no, no, no. First of all, can I finish? Okay, go ahead. Chad, Ocho Cinco Johnson. Let me tell you, you're not better than Jimmy Smith. You're not better than Keenan McCardell.

You're not better than Aaron, Cox. You're not better than Will it. Flip her Anderson. So stop. You're not better than Sterling Sharp. Stop. Okay. Okay. You finished? Let me know you're done. I've been done. I'm done when you started. Let me tell you something. Everybody you just named with all the respect, Jimmy Smooth, one of the best to ever do it and don't get the credit he deserves. But amen, Nathaniel person out there running routes like this and stopping on the dam. There's only one person. Let me finish. Let me stay with me now. There's only one person that will come out the huddle that would beg for bump and run, tell the person

my route at the line of scrimmary for the snap of the ball and still get open. And if you need footage, I have NFL film provide you with that footage. Only one person was doing that. And Devante Adams better right runner than you. Oh, child. Yeah, see? See what I did right now? Listen, I like

I like when you're going, but he is saucy. Let's stay on topic, though. Let's down topic. So like I said, one of the best rock runners than NFL history. The best, and DeVante will tell you. What? No, the guys I, y'all pulled a tape out there of the guys that I just named me. Yeah, and you pull out, you pull out on me too.

Why are you doing that? Chicago Bears dominate the commander. Justin Fields looked better, a lot better tonight. He was 15 to 29, only 52% completion. 282 yards, four touchdowns. DJ Moore had a monster game. Ten targets, eight catches, 230 yards. The Bears run the air out of the ball also,

178 yards rushing and the 14 game losing street that the Bears had coming into the game is no more. I mean, think about this. In his first 30 career game, Justin Field has zero four touchdown pass games. Now he's had two in the last five days. What do you think was the biggest difference in the Justin Fields that we saw, let's just say, the first half of last week, last Sunday, and for the entirety of the ball game tonight? I think tonight's game and the difference between tonight's game and last week game is the defense. It's the defense.

The defense set the tone from the start of today's game in the first half. You've got to remember now, the commanders didn't get going into the second half and finding low efficiency and being able to run and being able to run and throw the ball into the second half of the game. At the end of the first half, the commanders, they had number of 49 yards. Wow. Total offense. Total offense.

So it all started with the defense. they coming into the game, they only had two sacks and two games. They just had five and one night. They have five the night. So I'm really happy not just for Justin Fields, but also for Coach Everflus, who obviously had, again, 14, 14 losses in a row. The comeback behind lost to the Broncos last,

it was the Broncos, right? On Sunday, yeah. They lost last. They were up at one point, 28-7. Listen, the Bears defense was allowing almost 29, points a game, man. 29 points a game. There are not many teams.

There are not many games you're going to win when your defense are giving up 29 points a game unless you got an all-star team on offense or a bunch of track runners or something. But again, on Justin Fields in, I'm happy. I'm very happy. Let me pause a little bit and say this. I'm very happy that Justin Fields had the game he did

because I was sick and tired of hearing the people that obviously if they went 0-15, they were obviously going to tank and do what they need to do to make it necessary to get Caleb Williams. I was sticking here to the kid, the Caleb William talk. What's the young fellow from North Carolina? That's Drake May.

Yeah, Drake May. And that's all like that's all like appearing. Tonight was a small sample size. Bears fans, that organization, myself, that was a small sample size that what the Bears often can do offensively and defensively. And what you get when you can facilitate the ball,

you can run a ball, Khalil Herbert, nine yards of carry in the first half. Obviously going out because of the ankle injury, but what they were able to show tonight was a small simicized, if they can find some type of consistency, week in and week out, regardless to who you plan, regardless of who you plan, find some type of consistency and had that well-balanced offense

and get DJ Moore to ball, get Darneemone to the ball, and just, dude, it was beautiful. It was beautiful. They only had three guys to catch passes tonight. They only had three guys that were targeted. I ain't even mentioned the tight end. Cole, come back. Oh, my goodness.

Man, 6-6. 6-6. It's a third TD in two weeks. Yeah. Man, unbelievable mismatch, man. They got to take advantage of that, man. Use the players you have at your disposal to your advantage. And this is what you get.

Well, I've always felt this way. I've always felt it's easier to call play from behind than it is a hand. head. Because a lot of times you get ahead and you're like, okay, should I keep my foot on the gas? And then if you lose the game, it's like, why don't you run the ball? But then if you take the ball out of his hand, they say, well, why did you take the ball of hand? He had it going. So it's very, very hard. We saw what happened in the Super Bowl. We saw a 283 lead, a team try to keep their foot on the gas, allow the other team to come back and win the Super Bowl when they should have run the

football. It's easy to the second guess. When you're behind, you can just throw caution to the win. Everybody's already. they expecting you to lose. So what do we have to lose? We're already down by 17. We're down by 21 to 28 points. And so for the bears to remain, because for a second day, it got kind of dice in there.

Oh, Joe. It got 20 to 30 to 30. They almost got a two-point conversion to make it a one-score game. But give the Bears credit. You're right. Matt Everfluz did a great job. Give his coordinator because this is what I'm tired of. If a quarterback plays well, the office coordinator gives no credit.

Right. If the quarterback plays bad, he gets all the blame. It goes. So we're talking about Justin Fields. And credit, he played well. The completion percentage is not where he wanted to be, but he had some big time throws. DJ Moore finished him off with some big time run.

But I thought the OC did a great job of calling the game and putting him in a situation, letting him get comfortable. Because just like anything else, once a quarterback gets comfortable, now the field just opens up for him. I think it's very important. And I say this all the time when it comes to officer players, especially the quarterback position, you have to understand as the officer coordinator, calling plays, understand your player's strengths and your player's weaknesses. And always predicate the officer play calling towards the strengths of your quarterback and those he has those he has surrounding them.

And everything will be okay. Of course, it's easy for me to say sitting behind, you know, a mic and a couch and a camera. but when I think about it, when I think about it in simple form, there's no need to complicate things. I think sometimes coordinators get in their way overthinking and complicating things instead of just doing what their players do best.

Right. I think sometimes, you know, give the quarterback an easy throw. Let him get a lot. Let him get a stop route. Let him get something. Let him like, oh, yeah, I'm ready to do that. A lot of times, you know, you start your first pass. You're trying to go 15, 20 yards down the field.

Give him something easy. Now, the wide receiver, he just wants the ball. Just give him the ball. He just wants to feel it. So he's like, yeah, I'm in the game. Now, it's just like a defensive player. Once they get that one hit in, they're like, oh, yeah. Now we're ready to play the football.

You settle in. You settle in. But the Chicago really needed this game. They really needed this game because that is a football town. I understand the bulls and the cubbies. But, man, the bears are synonymous because of the heart. harshness of the winners. Yeah.

And so the monsters of the midway. So you expect those of our defense now. They don't play defense like they once did. Yeah. It rested. So they lost one of the great defenders of all time, not just in Chicago, but in the NFL, Dick Buckas.

Tell your story. My very first Super Bowl that I, when it was out here in Pasadena, Buffalo played the Cowboys. The game was in Pasadena, but the NFL put all the, the players that coming in, obviously, for the festivities.

We were in L.A. Right. So I wake up, I get up one morning, I'm going to breakfast, and I'm late to going to breakfast. Sitting at a table is Dick Buckers, Ray Niske, and Deacon Jones. Ooh, Deacon Jones. They're at a table. So I get my breakfast, buffet style.

I get my breakfast. I go sit down to the table by myself. And I never forget, Ray Niske say, A little Sterling. Come on over. over here. Come on. You can sit with us. We don't bite. So I get my stuff. I go sit with them. And, you know, they started talking, Dick. You know, hey, I'm Deacon Jones, blah, blah, blah, you know, telling me all, telling me the stories. Dick Buckas introduced himself.

Ray Niske, because he's a packer, my brother played for the Packers. He just starts, he's like, he's like, you're good, but you're not your brother. Like, bro, you just mad me. How are you going to say that? You just made me. You don't know. You don't know, I might be in my feelings. I might feel it sometimes. Right, right, right, right. But they, he was, I mean, he was, he was great. Introduced himself, tall, you know, love the way you conduct yourself. You and your brother, your mom should be proud of the way, you know,

your grandma should be proud the way she raised you guys. And so, man, we, we, the NFL and his family, we lost a legend today. Oh, yeah. Big time, big time. I don't really have, you know, I wasn't very fortunate. I wasn't fortunate enough as you were to, to be in a legend's presence like Dick Buckus, but obviously, you know, knowing what he meant to the NFL and to the organization of the Bears throughout the years

and being one of the most feared men to play the middle linebacker position. He is someone that. The Bears are known for that. Bill George is the first guy thought of to play the middle linebacker position. And so now you get Buckas and then you get Mike Singletary. And then after that, you get Erlacker. So the lineage, all those guys are Hall of Famers. And so now you're like, when you think of Bears,

you think of the middle line. back position. You think of the best. It's kind of like what I'm trying to think of what would it be like. I guess what? I'm trying to think of the captain of the Yankees. Right, right. How prestigious that is to be a middle line.

Yes, to be one of those, to be one of those guys, to be thought of like a Buckas, like a Singertory, like a Bill George, like a Brian Erlacker, one of those guys. but it was a great honor and going to the Hall of Fame and when the Hall of Fame luncheon and you sit around and you see Dick Bucket's and you see Mean Joe Green

and you see all, you see this guy, you see that guy, you're like, you just look around and you're just like, man, I didn't see those guys on television, but I heard stories about them and I watch, you know, I watched, you know, watch them play on the internet once it came up, once it became available

and to actually be in their present. Now I saw, you know, I saw Mean Joe and some of those other guys, guys play, but it was an incredible honor to be in the presence of them and the respect that that the younger guys that came along like myself and even the LTs who's arguably, you know, a god in that room and of itself. The way they paid homage to those guys that came before them. It's just an unbelievable feeling.

Oh, yeah. I don't know if you saw this yesterday, but we released. I sat down with Bismo last week. Yeah, that's my boy, now. That's my boy, man. So I started out with Bismo. And, you know, Beesmo didn't do a whole lot of talking when he was in the NFL. And, you know, basically his famous line was, I'm just here so I don't get fine.

I don't get fine. I'm just by that action, boss. Yeah, that's it. And so he opened up and he said some things that caught a lot of people's attention and it went viral. You know, one of the things that he said is that I don't bump with Pete. and I'm like when he said he said he don't bump with him and so I'm like clarifying

because we're talking about Russ and we're talking about Pete Carroll at the time so I wanted some clarification because I didn't want any ambiguity I was like you don't you don't want with who he's I don't F with Pete right he's out of F with Pete and so he gets him

yeah no no I'm hip but I didn't know which one he was talking about I needed clarity was he talking about Russ or was he talking about Pete Carroll so I just wanted clarity on who he was talking talking about not what he was saying. I understood clearly.

That's why I wanted clarification. But he also said, kind of gave a backdrop of kind of when it changed or when the team kind of went because Pete wasn't holding Russ accountable in practice. And then they had a meeting, a kumbaya meeting where they go and they can voice their grievances. And Pete stood up and said, y'all don't say anything to Russ. Y'all talk to me. Y'all don't say anything to Russ. you all talk to the quarterback coach.

And they say, wait a minute, we hold everybody accountable here. That's what we built. That's what we were built on. And so he was telling the story also that they played the Titans. He had a great game. Russ, their defense wasn't that good, especially the secondary. Russ thought he was going to have a big day. He didn't.

Beesmo had a big day. And so he wanted to call him, say, look, bro, I know you probably didn't have the day that you wanted, but I got you back. And there are going to be games that I think I'm going to rush for a buck 50 and two tubs. and you're going to have to have my back. So he wanted to reach out and call him, and he said that he got someone to pass me

Russ's number to me. And the guy didn't pass it to him, he told Russ to call him. Well, I guess Russ called him from a block number. And so Beechmo didn't answer the phone. So the guy calls it calls Beast Mode back. Right. Beesmo said, no, Russ ain't called me.

He said, somebody called from a block number. He said that was Russ. So I guess Russ calls him back and then they have the conversation. But basically, he was saying, how the momentum kind of shifted. Right. From the team and the way they looked at Russ,

the way they perceived Rush. Because remember, you and I talk about this, you can fool the media. You can fool the fans. You can't fool the guys in the locker room. You cannot do it. Right. And Beast Mode, a guy that doesn't have a hate bone in his body,

he is real and as authentic as you're going to get. So what was your big takeaway? I don't know how much of the interview that you saw. I saw you. Listen, everything you do, you know, I pay attention. I pay attention. I be locked in. I be tuned in just so I can, I can be able to, uh, for moments like this. Right. One of the things that I was told, obviously, when you make it to the NFL, you got different people from different walks of life. Yes. You know, when you, when you come in into that locker room, everybody ain't your friend and everybody's not there to be your friend.

And obviously it's a business, but what you do during that business, you make time to meet people, you know, you get time to hang out if you like to. But everybody does different things. Everybody's into different things. And sometimes certain people won't float your boat because you're not like-minded and you don't associate yourself with certain people. Now, Russ, I was never in that locker room. I can only go off the stories that I've heard before, some of the things that people have said. And obviously, I owe, I, I, I or defend him and saying, you know, Russell Wilson is a good dude. He is a God-fearing man that has purpose and is on his own journey. Now, there might be some things that rub people the wrong way, the way he carries himself inside the locker room, sort of putting himself, putting himself, I don't want to say above his teammates,

but kind of separating himself, especially at the quarterback position, you need to gravitate towards your teammates. If the one position, you can't be standoffish in the locker room. Right, right. Right. If I'm an Italian, yeah, but as the quarterback, you're the extension of the head coach.

You're the extension of the general manager of ownership. You need to be a liaison. You didn't, I mean, a lot of time, hey, you're talking to the offensive lineman one day. You're smootzing with the D lineman. You're talking to the receivers. You really have to ingratiate yourself. And people say, well, you can't be.

You don't understand the dynamic of a locker room. That's not because HR has no, has no bearing on production. And so it's different than a normal nine to five because like you said, you got different races, different religion, different orientation,

a lot of different. But the one thing that normally supposed to unite us is the ability to want to win. Right. And I told, and I've said this before, and people look at me like, I'm crazy.

I said if the coach, coach treat one player, outwardly different than he treats the others. The other players would grow to resent said player. Right, right. And that's what started to happen because Pete started to be bold with it and he was treating Rush different.

Different. And Russ started to act different because I didn't want to get too much into it, but he brought that same attitude to Denver. Right. See, and the funny thing, it's funny that you just said that he brought that same attitude to Denver

and the way he, the way things were run is because I heard about the separate, the separate office space, the separate locker as a pole away from everybody else. Yes. You can't do that. You were upstairs. Yeah.

And how you coach him? Think about the coach. Upstairs. Now, I don't know if this was true or not. He was upstairs. His office was upstairs with the coaches. So I don't know if this is true or not.

Now, I can get confirmation, but I don't, even if I got confirmation, I'm not going to go public with it because it'll make him look more. I heard. Russ had told some players, his door is always open. Right.

Did you hear what I just said? That's what the head coach. That's what the coaches say, my door is always open. If you got a problem, you got something you want to say, my door is open. I heard he said told players that his door is always open. Yeah. I mean, listen, everybody's different. Everybody's different.

No, but you can't be that different. I know you are you right. You're right. I'm not sure who he might have consulted with as far as being the quarterback. When you're a quarterback of a team, you have to be, you do have to be open. You have to be personable. You have to be what I'm looking for? Approachable to all, to everybody.

Relatable. You don't have to change who you are, but you're Peyton Mannings, your Tom Brady's, Carlson Palmer, you know, these are people I surrounded myself with or around. And even if it wasn't football related, they were still approaching. and felt very welcoming. The stories I hear, it feels like Russ is, it hasn't been welcoming and he hasn't always had open arms. And he, in a sense, is somewhat abusing the power that he had

because of the high position and hierarchy that he was and that comes with being the quarterback. Hopefully, I think he's changed a little bit, obviously, you know, because the ties have turned a little bit and, you know, against or not in his favor. But as he always says, listen, he's, a God-fearing man, he's always done things the right way, you know, and

maybe one of the things that he needs, has needed to work on or work on in just that in-the-lockroom factor, other than that, everything else that Russell has done in life has been fucking phenomenal. You know, the thing is, Ocho, people, look, your religion is what you do

and who you worship, who you go to bed with, who you wake up as, that don't have anything to do. All they want to know is that you, you don't think. Peyton Manning is a better player, but you ain't got to throw it in my face that you get certain perks.

Right. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, think about this. Payton Manning, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, John Elway, Dan Marino,

none of the historically great quarterbacks. Patrick Mahomes doesn't have an office, doesn't have an office upstairs with the coaches. Yeah. Yeah. So how did you think, Ocho, how do you think that's going to fly with the players?

Right. I got, hold on, I want to talk to Ocho. I got to call Ocho publicist to talk to Ocho, to talk to Ocho, don't laugh, Ocho, don't laugh. I got to set up a call with Ocho's publicist. That's my teammate now. You're my teammate. Right.

I ain't talking about somebody. I get it. Now, outside, sure. You're not just fitting to pick up the phone and call me. Right. And everybody didn't have my number. But if somebody had to reached out, I'm going to call them back from my number.

That's a teammate. I don't treat them, even though we might not hang out. But normally, as what I was playing in the Ocho, how club Shay Shay started, it started in a dorm in Northern Colorado in Greeley. Right. Where John, Bubby, all the guys, the quarterbacks would come. Everybody would come hang out, drink, play video game, play, play card, roll dice. We would just, and everybody would just come in.

I'm not saying that you got to, you know, but I'm saying normally when, when guys are putting things together, just show your face every once in a while. I'm not saying you got to stay the whole night, but it would be best because guys are looking around to see, who can I count them, man, okay? I see, okay, I see your time ruin the putter. I see sometimes guys would just stop by, hey, what y'all got going on in here, just to see what's going on. All right, we're gone.

And I think the locker room dynamic is very different than any other workspace in the world. And unless you've been in that, it's hard to, it's hard to explain it. And it's hard to quantify the importance of a healthy locker room. Right. And the funny thing about it, not only the importance of a healthy locker room, but the importance of your leader, the leader of your team, the one who runs a show, the one who gets the credit for the wins, the ones when you do lose, he also has to bear the burden of the losses through the media.

He has to be the one front and center and in reachable, accessible, and making everyone else feel apart. So if he is in everything and including everything that we're doing, that makes it, you know what, on Sundays at 1 o'clock, I'm fighting for him. Why you think those guys run through a wall for Tom Brady, run through a wall for Peyton Manning, one through a wall for John Elway.

Man, all we did was gamble with per diem. So anytime we had a little poppy shop machine, We had a little poppy shop machine. Man, one of the first guys that putting their poppy, putting their, putting their per diem down trying to gamble with Elway. And I'm trying to get it. We playing, we playing cards. You know, we was playing cards at first,

but you know how we have sponsors and things on the plane. And Mike said, look, guys, I don't mind you guys rolling dice or playing cards for money, but we got guests on it, and that's not a good look. So just wait until you get to the hotel room. But guess who was down there on one knee rolling dice? Guess who was that? They're playing

playing playing boo right with him. And that went a long way because they were showing us, okay, yeah. Right.

But I- Go ahead. The funny thing about it is, is Russ has a certain way that he conducts himself. He has a certain way that he does things. He has a routine,

and I'm sure he's had this routine that he's always stuck to throughout his life, throughout his tenure, when it can, came to playing the game of football, and I'm not sure if he had a great understanding on how important his presence was to not only the players, but the locker room in that dynamic in general. But I think now he gets a better understanding on that. Now on the back end, you know,

after hearing the stories and how it's made people feel somewhat left out. You know, I hope he hears this. I hope he sees this at some point and changes that, you know, that way in a sense. I don't think he needs to change other person. Just his, no, no, the locker room. Not as a person. Because as a person, he's somebody

I look up to and wish I was a little bit more life. That's because the only thing I can base it on is my experience with Russ. And he's always been great with me. Awesome. But when you're doing the locker room dynamic and you're trying to win because you're trying to get 52 other guys

because Russ is the leader. The position, the quarterback, any of it says, says, I'm a leader. And it's not always, and it shouldn't always be like that. But the quarterback, more times than not, he's going to have the sea on his jersey, even if he's not that good. Comes to the territory. That's it.

That's it. So hopefully, I hope, I agree with you. I hope Russ, here's kind of what Beesmo said. And you see, I mean, think about it. Russ was there for, what, a little bit of, what, 10, 11 years? Yeah, I think about 10. The year he leaves, they give somebody number three. Ocho.

Yeah. Come on, Ocho. I'm not saying it's supposed to be like Peyton Manning, nobody ever, I mean, the 18, but you can't wait a year, you can't wait two years. Right, right. And then you hear guys, the moment, listen, and you hear guys, once he left, guys started to become more open. Even Pete Carroll's, even Tyler Lockett, he tweeted,

it's amazing what you can accomplish when people are not worried about who gets the credit. You hear Pete Carroll starts, guys start taking their shots, guys that you had never heard say anything. Now all of a sudden you're starting to hear. And like I said, half the stuff that I hear, I never take it to error because I never want to make anybody look bad because I just want to base it on your play on the field.

That's all over the... I know a lot of stuff about a lot of things. things in the locker room and a lot of things that's be safe but you know way that's adam chef the job that's jake let them be inside of let them break that right i'm gonna talk about you i'm gonna talk about oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but see here's the thing you getting this business long enough you build up a certain level of credibility and a certain level of cash right and people feel they can talk to you just like they come on my platform people feel very very comfortable that they can talk to me right and so it was it was it was it was

It was a great conversation. People really, people thoroughly enjoyed it. You can tell by... I enjoyed it. Yeah, I enjoyed it. By the other sites that's picked up the clips of it. So I really appreciate y'all sharing that. Travis Kelsey asked the NFL to calm down with some of the Taylor Swift coverage.

So Travis said they're overdoing it a little bit for sure, especially in my situation. I think they're trying to have fun with it. Uh, man, he knew, he liked this. Check this out. The New York Post reports the NFL admits they were the ones who pushed NBC and ESPN to run ads for the ERAs tour for free. Now, when have you ever known the NFL to do anything for free? NFL don't do none for free because at the end of the day, the bottom line is always about a dollar.

There ain't nothing free but salvation. And Creflow Dollar and Joel Lohsteen charged for that. So ain't nothing free. And the NFL definitely don't charge and let you run no free ads. They don't give you no free ticket. No, sir. There's an angle.

There's a different angle that we don't know about. You know what the angle might be. Yeah, getting Taylor Swift to do the halftime show. Talk to me now. It's chess not check us. It's just chess not checkers. And I know how to play. And they know how to play at the end of the day.

Did you see the team viewership team, teen girls that watch the games that you appeared at up 53%? chess, not checkers. The NFL know what they're doing? They're smart. They're smart. I'm surprised. And when we talked about it,

and I told you about it being, even if it is somewhat real, when I talked about it being a PR and I ain't talking about Puerto Rico, understand the angle, understand the angle in the dynamic of the connection and the Wi-Fi that Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift

even being together. Yes. But it has. And what it does for not only Travis Kelsey, but for the NFL as well. So why not take advantage of the situation? Because at the end of the day, it all comes down to one thing.

Oh, Taylor Swift, okay, I understand if I do this, if I maneuver this way, if I move the chest piece this way, if I take the queen over here, I know I can get this. Right. You got to play the game. You got to play the game.

Because Taylor Swift gives the NFL a different set of eyeballs. Everybody, Taylor Swift, all of Taylor, half of Taylor Swift fans, probably not NFL fans. NFL's trying to get more fans, trying to get more eyeballs. Taylor Swift can do that.

Did it work? It worked. What percentage were the viewership up again? What percentage was it? Teen, I think teen girls was up 53%. 53% that would have never tuned in. Man, chess, not checkless. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, of course. I mean, I know because here's the thing. and this is this is how we are. We love something until we get too much of it and then we start because I see, oh man, Taylor Swift, they need to stop short on Taylor Swift and stop it. Y'all know who that is.

That's Taylor Swift. He's playing. He's playing. He's just playing. He got to come out and say that. On the inside, I know he's feeling good. I know he, I know he feels. Jersey sales and shot up.

Got a rocketing. Listen, you got all of them extra Instagram followers. You got your podcast, new heights. You know, man, listen, You got the commercials. Man, child, please. Everybody's benefiting from this because all the NFL fans probably aren't Taylor Swift. They're like, oh, that's Taylor Swift?

Because now you got two behemists together. You got the NFL, you got Taylor Swift fans. You got Taylor Swift, you got Travis Kelsey. One of the biggest stars in the NFL, probably her and Beyonce, one, two, however you want to rank them as far as pop sensation, traveling the world, bro. Yeah. NFL will be boo not to take advantage of this. And the funny thing about it, this is the NFL, obviously, the visibility is only so far.

And then you have to, now you get Taylor Swift on your hip. Do you understand what that does for your brand globally? Yes. People that don't even watch the game of football. That takes Travis Kelsey, not only to a different demographic, not only to a different age group and age bracket, but it puts eyes on not just the chiefs, but you as well and everything you have going on. Travis Kelsey, I know you're going to see this. I know you're going to see it.

You got to play the game. You got to play the game. same way you do it on the field, whether it's whether it's man or whether it's zone. You got to play the game and navigate through it the right way because you got to think long term, baby. Stay with me. Take advantage of this opportunity.

Huh? Take advantage of this opportunity. Yes, sir. She's not local. She's a national. She's global. We ain't all fortunate. We ain't all fortunate.

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He said, the person that's coming. commenting on my performance, what does he do? Flip hot dogs and burgers somewhere. Why would a lion concern himself with the opinion of sheep? First of all, bro, I don't know if you watch yourself on film. You ain't no lion. You block it like a sheet. And you keep playing like that.

Now, you won't be flipping burgers, but you'll be owning franchises of a burger of people that flip burgers. I don't know what he was thinking. Right. You see what I mean? on how players it affects him, even if it's, think about this. Evan Neal's not playing well.

Evan Neal has had an entire offseason preparing himself to get ready for football season and do the best that he can at his job. Evan Neal also has been through a training camp. Evan Neal also has been through a all-season program of 13 weeks to prepare himself for the season. So the funny thing about being frustrated, not only are they losing, but he's not playing well.

and then he has to hear from the fans that he's not playing well after putting all the work that he's put in and is very upsetting. At times, there are certain people. There are two kind of people in life. There are two kind of people in life. There are people that can take criticism and use it as motivation. And there are people that when they get criticized, they fire back based off emotion. And that is what you saw from him. He's frustrated things aren't going on well, not only for the team, but for him as well.

And what's the first thing that he does is he lashes out, without. I'll get your put up social media. Play better. He didn't play. Hold on, he didn't play well last year. He's not playing this year. So if the fan's fault that he's not playing,

it's the fan's fault he's not playing well, play better. Let me ask you a question. How many times when you play well, you got booed? Huh? How many times you played well and the fan booed you?

Oh, I never got booed. Whether I was playing home or way, they love me everywhere. But, and when, and, and, and, and, and, And even when I didn't play in the social media era, but if you're playing well, fans don't know that they might jump on your time and say, hey, guys, y'all, hey, 84, you're playing well,

but y'all need to win some games. Right, right, right, right, right. So what does he expect the fans to do? Right, right. I mean, not criticize you when you playing back. Listen, that's the nature of the beast. That's the nature of the beast. And I think Evan Neal from this point on,

and this can, you know what, this can affect people. You know that? Players. everybody is built differently, especially mentally. Mentally, this could tank you, you know? When you get to the point we allow fans to affect you and your performance based off what they're saying, oh, that could be, that could be deafening and hardening.

I'm just saying. That's a tired argument, though. I mean, it's a tired argument. It's a tired of, but it can still affect you in general. What if it got you, bro, that man that's flipping burgers and pot dog paying his hard-earned, damn money to come see you, your sorry butt quill blocks time after time after time, block your own guy over and over again.

Let Daniel Graham get sacked time and time again. That guy is playing his hard. Yeah, Daniel Jones, excuse me. That guy is flipping those burgers that's telling those hot dogs. He's spending his hard earned damn money to come watch your sorry butt plate. Right. You don't like, you don't feel no thing. You don't feel nothing.

You don't like, man, you know what, bro. You know, I'm right. You're all right. Y'all have every right to boo. Because I'm not playing well. No, if you lash out to try to like, oh, show him up, oh, you flipping burgers. Okay.

It don't take anything to get that first big contract because you get drafted. You can fool people. Get another big contract. That's what the dogs. That's what the lions do. Right. Bro, you're not no lion.

You're not. I don't know who told you that. And that seems like a good. Everybody want to be a lion now. And they're not cheetahs. They're not leopard. They're not Jaguar. They just graduate to the king of the beast.

Right. And, bro, Trit Williams can say I'm a lion. Zach Martin can say I'm a lion. Jason Kelsey can say you're lying. Can say I'm a lion. Bro. Why we on the context and the topic of animals that are based on what we are when we were on the field?

You know what I was? Can I tell you what I was? What? I was a killer whale. Oh, no, man. Yeah. I was a killer whale. But anyway, listen, again, I know fans are upset.

I know fans are upset, obviously. That should be. Yeah, I mean, yeah, they are. Oh, Joe. The dude is six, seven and a half, the dude is six, seven and a half, 330 pounds and can't block the sun out of his eyes. So you're damn right. I'm going to be upset.

What, why are you being mean? Why are you being mean? Did I lie? I, I don't know. I don't know because I haven't watched him. I normally watch the skill position to put the backs of it. running back. Evan Neal has allowed the six most quarterback hits and the second most pressures.

How can I interest you in that? You said number six, the sixth most? He's allowed the six most quarterback hits and the second most pressures. So that means there are five people in front of him that are even worse than, right? And I'm sure their fans are booing their ass too. I'm talking about him. And once I find out who they are, if their fans booed him and they lash out of them, we'll get their ass on here.

But right now we're going to see, you know what? The funny thing is, the other five, their team might be winning, but everything magnified now because the Giants aren't winning. No, they're not winning. Okay. No.

How you know? No, they're not winning. Because, see, the argument that you're trying to use is like if the police pull you over, why you start me all these people that's feeding? He said, you know what? I caught you. Had I not pull you over for speeding,

I might be able to catch one of them. Yeah. See, hey, if somebody would have lashed out at their fan base, playing as pathetic as he is, maybe this would have been an opportunity to get them. But since he beat everybody to the punch,

we got you. Right. Listen, I understand the fans' frustration. I understand the fans' frustration. For me, as a player, it's hard for me to put myself in that situation. I mean, as a player, because I never had that actually happened to me.

I do kind of somewhat empathize with him because of all the bullshit he's having to deal with from the fans through the media and it's frustrated for him because he's not playing well. Wait. let me finish you know he's not playing well and everybody's piling on top of him

and probably he got to a boiling point to he laughed out at the fans but again I'm also on the fan side because I was you paying your hard on money and then to hear a comment like that goddammit motherfucker we're the one paying I heard a heart earn got our heart earned in this economy

to come watch you play and you're talking you know so I understand both sides I'm hoping this does wonders for him and he comes back and answers with his play on the field and gives the product that the fans want to see. Oh, Joe, you can't play like what the elephant left on the showground and then expect me to applaud you.

You let me tell you the guy, you know who got the number one guy, the guy's there from front of him? That was a good one. Orlando Brown. He played for your bingles. He's giving up the most quarterback pressure. Your guy, oh, yeah, now look at you. And now you wonder why Joe Burrow is like he is.

Yes. Wait, wait. Yes. Orlando Brown. That y'all paid big money to get him. He playing worth it. He playing worse than Evan Neal. And that's saying something.

Because he's playing like stir fry. So I don't know what, I don't know what your guy is. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not going to touch that one. Your guy, Moomu Guy Paying or something. Nah. So that what, we're going to be all right.

got the Cardinals this week and we're going to win. A Cardinals. You know, you, hey, listen. Joshua. Josh. Josh. God is going to take a test right before he played a bingles. Ace the test and do a number on you guys.

How are you like that? You know what cure is everything? You know what can cure everything and make everybody happy? They can make the fans happy and it can make the players happy and make the coaches happy. You know what cures everything? Y'all, y'all not going to do that. Winning. Winning?

We on the Giants. We on the Giants right now. Winning. We're on the Giants. We're not on the Bengals. We're not talking about Orlando Brown. I'm talking about the Giants. Okay.

That winning. You tried to get to see what you did. See, what you do and you trumping it. You caping up for somebody else and got the heat on your own guy. Now Orlando Brown said he called a straight. He's talking. What you did is you shut Orlando Brown. You shut Orlando Brown in front of Avenue.

So I was throwing the bullets at him. Wait a minute. I ain't cape for nobody. I said, you know, you just. I said I understand both sides. What you're talking about? I said, I understand both sides. So if he's number two,

that means somebody's worse than him. So I had to get you to get... I said there are people that are playing worse. So I kind of understand where you coming from. But again, one thing cures all. Winning. That's it. I tell you another thing to cure it.

That's the only way to fix it. Play better. Because you play better. Yeah, that too. What about that? So what? So what role is playing better? What is that here?

Oh, it's going to come in. That's why you go out. They protect the quarterback's ribs. They protect the quarterback getting hit in his head. Hey, listen, that's why you go out there every week. You practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. You have walked on Saturdays, and you try to go out there, execute everything you worked on throughout the week.

And you hope it pans out the way it does. Are we sure he's practicing every day? Yeah, he is. Or are you practicing? Or you just going out of the game time? Because it don't look like that. You practice? Listen, the person on the other side of the ball,

then defense ends. Yeah, they get paid too. Hold on. They get paid too. I tried to hear that. I ain't tried to hear that. Not every play to Ocho. Look, the D.B.

going to win some. Okay, granted. But damn, every play. Look, Ocho, think about this. I played tight-in at 228 pounds. I had to block a Reggie White, a Bruce Smith, a Neal Smith, a Derek Thomas. I mean, you're not going to beat me every damn plate. That's not going to happen.

Right. Even at 228. I'm a big receiver. But at some point in time, pride got to kick in. That man, I know who you are. I know what you represent. I know you're going to be on the 75th anniversary team. I know you're on the 100 anniversary team.

But you're not going to beat me every plate. I got to win some. Yeah, you're right. You're right. But see, mentally, you built different. Mentally, you're built different. Obviously, this day and eight, you know, I don't want to say kids because they're not kids. But, you know, they're wired differently.

and I think he's going to be okay. I think he's going to be okay. I hope so. I didn't say, I don't, listen, I'm not saying he's not playing well right now, but I'm hoping the ties turn for the better for him and that team in general. So the fans can have something to cheer about for a change.

I know you saw this. Brock Purdy said he still lives and splits the rent with a roommate in San Francisco and drives a Toyota Sequoia. Ocho, I think Brock Purdy is doing an unbelievable, job. But unless I'm in college, I ain't living with no grown-ass man. Two grown-ass men should not be sharing no part, splitting no rent. I'm going to get a five, I get three, I get 350 square feet and live by myself before I split a thousand square feet with another big old rusty dude. Do you know what the cost of living is in San Francisco? I don't care for how to drive head.

I ain't staying. I'm coming to this, hey. Did he say, he never said his roommate was a guy, did he? Ah, stay with me. Stop me. He never said. His roommate spitting the rent. He did.

He did. It's a woman. I guarantee it's a woman. Let me tell you something. It is not. He got a girlfriend. He probably got a girlfriend. And he split rent with her.

You don't think so? No. I don't know. When I come home, the only dirty drawers and it piled up in the corner going to be mine. There ain't no other joke of dirty

draws and foxley shoe, go be in the doorway when I get there. You might want to look at the data on the highest places to live as far as expenses are concerned, as far as trying to earn and make a living. San Francisco is expensive.

It might be number one on the list of places to live. Oh Joe. I don't care. I live in 500, I live in 500 square feet in hell. I ain't sharing my place with no man. That's me. Sometimes you have to. Sometimes you got to do that when you got the money.

Sometimes you have to when you got the money. Check this out. Ocho, check this out. Real tall. I wish I had the numbers on it. How much is rent in San Francisco? Show me the numbers. I guarantee you there are people that's making less than $870,000 that has an apartment by themselves.

I made $63,000 my rookie year. $63,000. Mm-hmm. 63. Wait, where were you playing at? I was in Denver. You was in Denver making $63,000 a year like 30-something years ago.

Yes. We're in 20-23 living in the worst times of all. Let's just, okay. Let's just say. Rent is crazy. Mortgage is crazy. What's the average rent in San Francisco? $4,000.

$4,000. It might be more than that. I'm going to say $4,000. I'm going to say $4,000, no more than $4,500. Average rent costs. No. No, not in not, no, no, no, absolutely not. Not in San Francisco.

It's a different ballgame. Please, somebody do your homework for me real quick. We do it. And give me the information. Two bedrooms, San Francisco. The average, no, they said no two bedroom. He by himself. You just said he got a roommate.

Yes. So if he's been in the same bed, nah? The average rent in San Francisco is three thousand a month. So you know what? That's a lie. That, no. No. No.

No. Hold on. Ocho. Let's just say we go get a, let's just say we go. let's just say we go get a nice one bedroom for 4,500. You know what, Ocho? I'm going to say, you know what? I'm going to get a wash and dry in my apartment.

So I'm going to bump it up to $5,000. You mean to tell me a man that's making $870,000, can't afford a $5,000-dollar-month apartment by himself? Obviously not, obviously not, because that's why he's doing it. That is a matter of fact. That's a good, that's a good story. Oh, do you see Brock Purdy? Oh, he's dead.

He rins an apartment. he's all about the game. Let's stop it. It missed me with that. Ain't nothing wrong. What did I say my first two years in NFL? Let's not forget. Oh, you forgot?

Because I wanted to save money because buying a place or renting a place was pointless and unnecessary when all the amenities I needed was in the stadium. Average rent for a one bedroom in San Francisco is $3,000. It's the third most expensive city in the U.S. behind Jersey City and New York City.

So I just say the average price 3,000 for one bedroom. I bumped it up. Another 2,000, just because I wanted him to stay in the nicest place in San Francisco. Whatever you just read is not up-to-date information on how much it costs the state in San Francisco. And there's no way in hell that New York is in front of San Francisco.

And what was it? What was the first? Who was, who was first? Jersey City. Jersey City. What are you talking about? Okay, this was published April 30. of 2023.

So maybe the price have gone up another $10,000 since then. So you want to try another angle? No, but I just understand. I understand where he's coming from because it's something I did as well. He is not into spending money

and in order to save money, even though you make an $870,000, how can I do it? Easy. Spit the rent with somebody else. Boom. And going about my business. Let me ask you a question.

If he's trying to save money, why the hell he gets a Toyota Sequoia that gets 13 miles in the city and 7th and Highway, when gas is $7 a gallon out here. Explain that. Driving his old Toyota Sequoia from college. It's not a new Toyota.

It's the fact that the matter is that it's $13. Hold on. Do you understand how much gas prices are here in L.A.? The gas price in L.A. is $7 a gallon. Oh, so now you have an understanding the gas prices, but when it comes to the rent, what's the difference? I'm going to save on rent, but I'm a splurge on gas. What's more important?

A place that lay ahead or getting from, point A to point B. You got to go to work. You know what? You can sleep in that truck and go right on to work. If you want to save money, do that.

Sleep in the truck and go to work. Listen, I commend Brock Purdy. I commend Brock Purdy. All of us don't want to just waste money, you know, and just just... Oh, Joe.

I ain't say go get no palatial estate. I ain't say go get a Steffin-Iisha Curry place, a $30 million pad. I ain't say get a penthouse that's cost you $15,000, $20,000? He'll be able to. what's going to happen when he gets that money, when he hits that $200, $250 million contract, he's still going to be stuck in his same ways and that money will probably last his grandkids

and his grandkids grandkids and his grandkids after that. So I think it's a good thing. It's commendable to me. Oh, true. Listen, I'm not saying he got to pay for a lot of young women college tuition. You know, I, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying. I ain't saying he got to do that. But I'm saying, bro, you can get you a $3,000, make it. 870, you can get you a 3,000, 4,000. I went 5,000. You want to get, and it's for a year. Right.

But you have to understand. That's your way of thinking. That's your way of thinking. This is Brock Perry. Don't be cheap to yourself. We don't, we don't. Nah. Don't be cheap to yourself.

Be as cheap as you want to, don't be cheap to yourself. Brock, I know you're going to see this boy. I love you, baby. I love you and everything you're doing, man. Hey, me and you, we got to write a book together on financial literacy. I think we can get this done. How are at me when you see me?

My number's still the same. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. Way to go. I just want to know who promised you tomorrow. Huh? Who promised you tomorrow? Nobody promised him tomorrow, but I know one thing.

When I was born, I had an expiration date. Yeah. But God said, do you know what this? Hold on, do you know the day? I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you right now. Let me finish now. When I was born, we all come with expiration date.

Yeah. But God told me he's not through with me yet. So I know I still got some time left. I'm not finished. because he's not through with me yet. I'm not even going to preach today because it's not Sunday, but you know why I'm going with this.

Yeah. Yeah. Stay with me now. He told you got time left. He told you that yesterday. It might be today. Huh? Listen, he's not done with me.

You heard exactly what I said. He's not done. He's not through with me yet. Speaking of being frugal, Derek Henry says he's going to hold off on jersey swap because of the cost. Now players are required to pay for the jerseys when doing swaps.

And the cost have increased recently. Titan players have to pay upwards of $350 per jersey. So you can understand how expensive that can get if you do it 17 times. You see? You see how everyone is being financially conscious now? You see? They worried about paying a $350 or a $350 jersey 17 times.

You see what I'm saying? If I, hold on, think about this here. I love my ballplayers for this, man. I love y'all for this. But, no, I ain't got no problem with the ball players, the problem that I have with the NFL. Now, you're going to give Taylor Swift free airtime. $400, $500,000 for 30-second spot.

And you say NBC, CBS, Fox, ESPN, can y'all do that for free? But you're going to charge the players who you build in the back bone off of, you're going to charge them $3.50. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, let's rewind. I understand where you're going with this. I understand where you're going.

obviously we are the ones the backbone of the NFL. We are the meat and potato. We are the meat and potatoes of the NFL. But we have to understand something. At the end of the day, it's about the bottom line. And there's one, listen. Let me finish. The Taylor Swift versus the NFL players,

which one moves the needle the most and can do so in a short amount of time that nobody else that's putting on a helmet can? Just answer the question. Answer the question. Which one could move beneath the post? Ingo. Optics matter. There you go.

Archo. There you go. Optic matter. Hold on. Remember the optics I just told you about Russell Wilson? How Pete Carroll? Optics are the other players. Yeah.

So who's more important? Who's more important? A quarterback or a wide receiver or DB? Who's more important? Well, the quarterback, obviously. Optics matter. I understand. So now the player's looking, hold on.

Hold on, hold on, Ocho. We can let someone. So hold on. Ocho, just give me a second. Now, I'm talking about the 1,500 players. which one of those 50 hundred players. Okay, I'm going to pull the top 10 players together. If I pull the top 10 players together,

you think they got more money than Taylor Swift? Absolutely not. Okay, so the players are saying, hold on, you're going to headcrack me for $350, and you're going to give somebody that's worth a half a bill. You're going to give her a discount. As a matter of fact, you're going to give her a discount. You'll let her have it for free.

Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying the optics. I'm just saying the player. Hey, chess, not checkers. Hold on. Tyree. bottom line at the end of the day. Tom right here, just got your $7,500 for no socks.

How many times you got fine for no socks? How many times you got untuck jersey? Listen, untuck jersey, stream of towel, gold cleats. Remember I used to wear the orange and the orange chin strap, the black chin strap? I didn't care. I didn't care.

I don't care. And I never stop. Hold on. Hold on. Ohcho, Ocho. Ocho. Either you're a cyclop or Ocrop or Ocropos or something because you're speaking on both sides your neck.

One minute you're being proved. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Just a second. Now, they find you every time untucked jersey. They find you when you run the chin strap. They find you for all this and you say, take the money.

Why are you doing that? Yeah, because I'm playing. No, I am frugal. Listen to me. Stay with me. Stay with me. Let me talk to you real quick. When I'm playing the game of football, I'm from Miami.

I'm from Liberty City. It's a beautiful place called Day County. When we play the game of football, it's about having fun. It's about entertainment. is about going out and looking good and doing it your way and showing up. So when it comes to that, the NFL is going to do what they think they can do best to keep us under control. So what's the first thing they do? They take what they think we value most.

Stay with me now. They were finding me for enjoying the game of football the way I like to and dress the way I felt I should to be able to do my job at my best because I felt good and looked good doing it. That's the only reason. There's the difference. Now, when it comes to, listen to me, when it comes to other things like rent and buying houses and buying cars and buying jewelry, all that stuff, all that stuff, that shit ain't matter. But when it came to football, I want to enjoy the game playing it the same way I did as a little kid. That's all.

That's all. And you're not going to control me. You're not going to control me by taking money. Because, listen. You don't get to, you don't. You don't get to say, you know what, I don't want to spend money on an apartment. So I'm going to live in the facility. But I'm going to give the NFL seven.

thousand, 10,000 of my dollars every week. That's $160 over 16 games. You tell me the sense that made. So the money that you save by, hold on, the money that you saved by staying in the facility you gave to the NFL times 2x. And I

got it back times 5x in the offseason. So I wasn't tripping. Ocho, you can't get back money. You was going to make that money up by doing the off season program anyway. You lost one 60. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not talking about the off season program. I made it up in the off season. I work year round. I didn't just, I didn't play football. I work year round.

So how you make that up? You're going to make, you're going to get those endorsements anyway. You lost 160. You can't get up, you can't get back what's lost. No, no, you're not understanding all the stuff I had going on outside of the game, outside of football. And you know, so I was making it back going on with an extra 160 in your pocket. So make it make sense. Listen, listen to, stay with me, baby. You're not listening to me. It made sense to me because I played the game a certain way, right, when I was a little shorthy, when I was legit. So when I got to the NFL and you're paying me millions of dollars, when you get to the

NFL, it's all about control, trying to conduct and control the players to their satisfaction. But I wanted to play it my way and dress the way I did when I was at Miami Beach Senior High and when I played for Liberty City Optimist, and that is what I chose to continue to do. The NFL don't want y'all coming out, they're looking like an all tournament team because the first, the next thing somebody was going to do with an all tournament team. One of you got on Adidas. One of you got on Puma. One of you got on Reeboks.

One of you got a beach tower hanging out in your back. And so the NFL says, no, we want some uniformity. We want a uniform code. And guess what you could have done? You could have bought 500 smoke detector batteries. Yeah, I did. I did. You noticed you don't hear no chirping a more, though.

I bought time. I'm glad. Yeah. I'm glad. Listen, but I stole the battery out of the smoke detector in my whole. hotel and bought it home. You know they watched this. No, they didn't see that.

No, they're watching this. You told them. I just told them. I know, but it was all the way in Philly. They ain't going to know. You're going back. You stay at that same hotel when you go back to Philly. I know, but they ain't going to know because it's going to be chirping.

I know, but they just going to change the battery. They ain't going to know. I just incriminated myself, huh? You sure did. Damn. I mean, you sure did. They did know, but they do now. That's why I never do nothing wrong.

My bad. that's a good thing. You don't do it if they're old. You should do. So, I mean, since you told us you took the hotel battery, you want to tell us the hotel? Huh? You want to tell us the hotel?

Hell, you already tell us you took the battery. So whatever hotel he's staying in on Monday night, he got the battery. Yeah, the Western. It's cool. I know that it didn't replace it by now. They probably charged in the car, though, like incidentals.

Do you think that go with incidentals? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, we're going to put that in there. At Western. Chad Ocho, Cinco, Johnson. stole y'all battery at you. You know what else I took?

I don't mean to be telling you my business and my personal stuff, but I got we family, we family, but you know when I go to hotels, right? You know, when I pack, I always travel real light, so I have extra room in my suitcase. I always deal two tiles to watch flow. That's the same.

I mean, that's what you did in college. I mean, I, bad. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen. I got to marry y'all bread spread right now in my bed at home. in Glenville. See, that's,

see, that we hear. You can do all kinds of that bit. You can smoke, you can smoke. You can try to start a forest fire on that thing. That thing can go burn nothing.

I don't know what they made that thing out of. That thing is, is fire retardant. Man, look here. I go into a burning bird and build. I don't need no fire. I just wrap myself up

and wasn't more merry. I break it. I was spread, spread. Comfort us. And come right up on the body. It's like, hey, that's what I would do.

Hey, listen, man. ain't nothing worse than this. And I know people are going to laugh at me. They're going to talk about, man, what you're doing? You know how many people don't wipe their cell phone? Like, man, listen, when you buy new towels and you try to dry off and all the lint from the towel still stuck on you, man. But that's why you wash them first.

I can, see, I can tell. You don't know nothing about it. Listen, you know how many times you have to wash a brand new wash cloth and towel before it's all rigged and rough and perfect? No. How many wash cloths and tiles do you got? You should be able to wash. I mean, you should have elite at the bare minimum three sets.

Well, that's actually... Listen, I have way more than three sets because you have to think how much I travel. So every time I travel to a different hotel, I always steal two sets. Man, I mean, they white. I made them tell look like you've been changing all. Listen, you know, why is...

That is the most humbling experience. You know that? Hey, we family. I could talk to y'all, right? One of the things that has always been the most humbling to me is to get out the shower, been in there 20 minutes, bathing, making sure you hit all the important spots,

and you get off and drive off with the towel, and the best still come out black sometimes. Like, why is that? I don't know. You got a mirror close by? No, I ain't got no mirror close by, but I know you need for the sea and say that you drive with no white towel. And you don't, not at home, hell, no.

What do you use at home? What color is that? I got blue, I got brown, I got green, I got black. Hey, do me a favor. You get a white towel just so it can humble you real quick. No. That shit's so humbling, man. When I'm home, I won't be experience of home.

That's why I don't have anything that's like hotel related in my home. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I like me going with that one. I know, I like me going with that one. I mean, I don't know how it don't take you that long. You're taking a bird bath anyway. Who? You?

Well, what would you mean? You know, the matter of fact, the little bird bath, they see out in the front of the yard, the bird like, right, and they didn't get in a shape. You go up out of there. I'm so glad that you're speaking of shower, right? I'm not even home, right? Let me tell you another thing I used to do, you know,

throughout my tenure when I was single. Like to save money at home, like fellas, if you watch this, stay with me. Now, always take a shower with your girl house. Always take a shower to a girl house. Use her electricity, you know, just do everything there to keep your bills down at home. And that's something that I used to do. I used to finagle a lot of situations like that. Like right now, she's sleeping right now.

She can't hear me. Like, I'd be here in Tampa, right, at my old lady house, right? Right. This, what's the day the fifth? Today the sixth. Guess how much my water bill was. I don't know. Guess how much my water bill was?

What? $40. $40. I don't like that, too. Hey, she on you, she don't even know. I've been like, oh, boom. But it's cool, though. And she paid the bills.

that's all right she'll get it back at you when you when you when you sign that when you don't sign that pre-nuch she gave it back no saw hey i got another one she's i know we we didn't we didn't veer it off into life now i got a birthday coming up you know if i was her you know what i get you no no no it's her birthday it's her birthday and i and i need i need help i need help yeah i ain't i ain't i ain't i ain't gonna lie to you because what do i buy somebody that has everything in last year that's what women ask me Shannon you got everything What do you buy somebody Has everything? I say more of everything Whatever I got Give me more of it

Give me an idea Because whatever you say That's what I'm gonna get Her birthday October 16th So whatever you say get I'm getting Because I asked I asked them 32 times I asked a 30th time

What you want for your birthday And why is it with women They never ever ever Ever understand Oh I don't know Give me some nice Yes, yes. I don't want to surprise you.

I ain't got that kind of time. At all. And I don't want to buy you. A 15 girlfriend. Hey, well, hey, what, what Shireen won't? Oh, you know what? She had an eye on this. Yeah, but I closed my eyes because I saw that price.

I had, I see, yeah, I closed my eyes when I saw that price. So that ain't it. So, I mean, when you were dating, how did you navigate and figuring out what to get your partner? I'm terrible. I'm terrible. We're in the same boat. We're in the same boat. You know what?

I called my grandmother. I called my grandmother one. I started making some real good money. I said, granted, what you want for Christmas? You know what my granny told me? What? Money. She said it's the right size and it's the right color.

So I just started getting people money. So 5,000, 10,000, whatever you need, 15,000, whatever you need for your birthday, go ahead. If you can't get it with 10 or 15 grand, I don't know what to tell you. wait, that's not disrespectful, though? Man, look here. You know what I like? This is what I do, Ocho. Go get what you won't.

Because if I get something and then I look, yeah, I like it. That's going to make me not want to get you, get you anything or give you anything. That's why I'm asking for your help, because if I go get some based on my taste and I have an understanding of what she liked, but she already got everything. So if I bring something in here, and then I, yeah, I get, what? Or Mez. No, she got, she got two of those already, though, huh? Give another. Get to get that crock one.

Oh, nigger. That crock one? Yeah, see. Get her that. Wait, how much is the crock one? How much is the crock one? They're going to start out by 50 bands. What kind of band?

Fan you? No, no. That's the March of 100. That's half of the March of 100. Wait, 50, like, 50,000? Yeah. But you're going to be in there.

You're going to be in there like swimwear. For a purse? For a purse. And it ain't got nothing in it. It don't come with 49,000 in it either. You're dead ass or you just bullshit, though, like dead ass. Seriously. I would have a lot to you.

50,000 for a purse. Crocermaz. What are you looking at? Tell them, tell him, tell him the used one. How much the used one? now let me tell you now if you mess around and want to get the Himalayan there's a bag there's an Irma's Himalayan now they're gonna probably start I ain't never I ain't like like like Himalaya like the same one that

yeah yeah yeah Martin and you and you need to have money stacked that high to be in order to be able to get it got they by 300 to 500 the 5-4 5005 man man go on ahead now go ahead now go ahead now so I mean That's a Rolls, right, now. Come on. But here's the thing, Ocho. If you just can't go in Ur-Mez and get a bag, you got to get on a list,

or you got to know somebody that's on the list to be able to get it for you. So you just can't walk at the Irmaid's store. Like, you can walk into Rose Roys, and you're like, I want that Rose Roiss and get it. Right, right. You can't do that with Hermes. Hell give a damn who you are.

Wait, you got to get on a list. So is that their way, is that their way to keep everything exclusive? Yes. Well, I have a question for you. I have a question. So if they have a list and you have to get on the list to keep everything inclusive, how come all the IG people on IG got Hermes bags?

They probably bought them second. Man, look here, I don't believe nothing on IG. Because if I just went by IG, I'm trying to be like, hire, how is the unemployment, the rate is what it is, inflation what it is, because everybody living a glorious life. Everybody got flawless skin. Everybody got a Bentley truck or a Mibat. So IG is full of caca.

Yeah, I don't know, man. But I'm just, I'm really stuck. And I normally, you know, I play around. I know I play around a lot. But what about what about, what about a Patech or an AP or a Roli? AP, she got a Roli already. AP, that's a good one. Get an AP or Potech.

All right, what's the price point? Like, come on that. Don't, come on that. Don't, don't even go across the head, now. They, I mean, you're talking about exclusive or exclusive, but there are those other watches that you've got to be on the list to get. Why? What is with this list shit?

Because here's the thing. And what happened was, remember during the pandemic? Everything shut down. So production of all those watches shut down. So now it backlogged everything. So now everybody, a watch that costs you 70,000 people trying to get 210 for it. a watch that costs $70,000 or $210 now? Trying to get $210, $2.30, $300.

Do me, do me a small favorite real quick. What time you got? What time is it right now? Almost 20 minutes to 10. That ain't cost me $70,000. That was free right down. That ain't cost $210,000. That was free right down.

I'm just, I've just tell you, Joe. One of the few times, one of the few times I spend money is a holidays, and on your girl. And on my girl. That's the only time. And she knows that your puca. So she's expecting something really, really high end, Ocho. Because that's the way I moved.

Last year, last year I went crazy. What you get her? Who was that? The goddamn, the Maldives. The Maldives. The Maldives. How you said it? Maldives.

We stated in the Maldives at the underwater hotel, 50,000 a night. Oh, she did you. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah. Hey, I went crazy last year. So now I'm like, well, how do I, how do I compete with what I did last year?

Man, I got back and said somebody, hey, that's fraudulent. I got back that credit card, that's fraudulent. I don't know who. Somebody forged my name and everything. They even cut their hair and they look like me on camera. Yeah, it was, we only stayed in there three nights. The underwater, the under, and then we went to the, um, cabana. Then we went to the, look here.

Went to the only place I'm playing 50,000 of the night is heaven. That's all I got. I got 50. I go to 100. But if he said $1.25. You'll like it, though. You like it. It was a great experience.

It's something that I had never experienced before. And being submerged under the water, everything was under the water. The hotel, I mean, not the hotel, the room itself. Oh, Joe, I'm about to go upstairs. It ain't going to call me $50,000 a night. I know, but it was the birthday, though. I don't know, see. Yeah, it was a birthday, though.

But here's the fact. Okay, so now what do you do? What do you do to top back? I'm stuck. That's why I came to you because you have more experience than I do in that area and you're not scared to spend no money because you fly private.

Yeah, I ain't, I'll spend, no, I ain't never been scared to spend no money. See, there we go. I'll give you money you go buy what you want, what you need, hey. Okay, so how about I do that?

I give her money, let it go, give what she wants. But how that's going to work when she make more to me right now? Hey, you got to bite the bullet, say, damn, man. Because you, she, I mean, give a hundred bands cash. What the hell?

Let me get a hundred grand cash from. They ain't got, they ain't got that as a goddamn bank. Yes, they do. You order it. I'm with you when you're right. Okay, I'm going to try that tomorrow, then. I'm going to try that tomorrow. I'm just, I'm just saying.

I'm trying. I'm going to let you try it. Well, probably when we get to third week of October, I'm going to let you know how I go. Just go ahead and order it says I'm going to come in on this date. Right. I'm going tomorrow. Right. Okay.

Okay. Okay. And they'll, okay. Okay. And they'll, And they'll have it. Okay, that, ah, she's going to let me get some. And the funny thing about it is you can tell this is new to me.

I don't, I don't move like that. I don't maneuver like that, so I, you know, I had no idea. Am I but see the thing is my kids are easy. My kids want the money. They rather have the money to go do and pay stuff. Okay. Yeah, because they're going to pay, you know, I'm going to pay six months of my rent. I'm going to pay this.

I'm going to get that. You know, me get me buying them. them something and like, okay, I still got, I got a $5,000 purse, but I got rent or I got a car payment. So, right, right, right. My kids do it like that. I'm a terrible. I, like I said, I hate, I don't do rejection well and I can read body language really well. So I can tell if you're really excited, yeah, or you're like, that's nice. Yeah. Thank you, Shed. Yeah. Now, see, now you don't make me want to get you nothing. Right. Okay. Another big announcement came out today. Joel and B commenced to playing for Team USA in the 2024 Olympics. He was born in Cameroon.

He has dual citizenship with France and the USA. And obviously, it was very tough. Does he play for his native homeland Cameroon or does he play for the French team, the French national team, or does he play for Team USA? Some was born here. Say he wants to dedicate because his son was born him. Joel and Bede has never competed at the international level due to injuries. But obviously health will be the utmost concern for all the guys because we see a lot of guys. LeBron says, okay, I think I might want to be in Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Devin Booker,

a lot of guys want to commit because they're like, look, we want to put this once in for all, we steal the king of the mouth. Right, right, right, right. When they come to basketball. Right. So what do you, what do you think about Joel? and B playing for Team USA in 2024 Olympics? I think based on why he said he wants to play for it,

instead of his native homeland of Cameroon or the French team, I mean, that's on him. That's the decision that he's made. I'm not sure how long he's been here in the States. But, I mean, this happens a lot, obviously with soccer, with many choosing to play elsewhere as opposed to where they were born. And I think it's a good thing. It's a good thing for us, especially,

USA basketball team based on what we, what we've done previously and struggling. We were good and terrible this year. It was terrible. But I think all the players, all the, it's funny that all the players, all the,

the great players, all at once decided that they want to play in Paris in 2024. Yeah. You think they had, they had this all plan. I mean, think about Paris. I heard Paris is really nice.

I mean, most of the guys are married. If they're not, you know, you find your little boot thing and go over there, the Eiffel Tower, you can put the locks on the bridge. Yeah.

You know, I don't know. I'm mad to going over to Paris because I heard Paris is really nice. I'm thinking about taking me a trip over there, Ocho. You've been to Paris? I ain't up been there. You been? Yeah, listen, I've been to Paris multiple times. Obviously, I was able to see Champions League last year.

I was able to see Real Madrid and Liverpool playing the finals. Okay, okay. Yeah, the traveling I do. I had her thinking, I had her thinking I was taking to the Paris. like, hey, baby, I'm going to take you to parish, right? So, boom, we get off the plane. She had no idea, and I saw the sign. I said, oh, my God, girl, look, championship.

It's a soccer game here, not knowing I had already bought the tickets. So she's thinking I'm taking a pair, but I was really taking myself to go out of championship league. So I just knocked two birds out with one stone. She had two bird and one stone. One one, one, and that was a little. Yeah. I like the way you think. I like the way you think.

That was not one. It was a good one. You got to go back. And so, you know, I want to go to Paris. You know, I want to go to fashion week. You know, I got some favor. You know, I got some favor of my bucket list. You be sharp.

You be sharp. You be sharp. I'm a lazy dresser. I'm not really in the fashion like that. What? Yeah. Listen, I put on clothes every blue moon. Like, it's time, you know, dinner time.

I just, I just can't, man, because fashion is such an expensive taste. Such an expensive taste. And it doesn't always have to be expensive. you know, is based on you. You know what? We might need to hold off. We need to put pieces together. Let's hold off on the Paris

because they got a bed bug outbreak. So I think we're going to hold off until they get that under control. They got a bed bug outbreak? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's all over. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's bad. It's bad right now.

Yeah, I ain't with that. Yeah. I ain't with that. So we're going to hold off on, we're going to hold off on pairs until they get that bed bug thing under control. Once they get that under control, then count your boy.

You ready. you've been to Rome? Oh, yeah. Oh, your boy went to Rome. Let me tell you. That's the last time I took a vacation. I went to the road. I flew in the Rome,

the young lady that I was going to see. Wait a minute. Talk to me there. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? She's been to at the airport. We met back to airport. And we took a train to Florence. So we're all through the countryside.

You know, we were the old Diet Cart. You know, they're bringing us. You know, they just bringing it. and bragging us and bragging of stuff. I was like, you know, I'm kicked up. I'm like, okay, I can get you to this. So we spend like, yeah, we spent like three, I think three, we spent three nights,

three nights and Toronto in Florence. And then we came back to Rome for like three more nights. So I was over there about a week. Damn. I was over there about a week. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Y'all, have y'all, y'all met previous before the trip? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

She was, she was studying. Okay, okay, she was studying abroad. Okay. Well, I'm glad you mentioned that So how come she not the one? Man, that was so long. You know how long ago, 1996 was? Oh, this was the 96?

You got me thinking this was like last year sometime. No, that was the last time I've been on vacation, bro. Oh, man, Rome doesn't change so much, man. You got to go. I know. As a matter of fact, somebody just told me, say, the carts, the trains, they're much nicer. So it got me to think it.

You know, I might want to recreate that. You don't recreate that moment. Right. Matter of fact, because I'm very nostalgic. Yeah. What you need to do is you need to create it with somebody new and give them the experience to enjoy with you out of town that's never been to Rome. What? And I'm going to find that for you. You know damn well, I ain't going to take the person that I met that I met 96 back over there. No, that's what I said. I'm got somebody for you. Just stay with me. No, no, I don't need you. I got somebody. I got somebody. I got somebody. I got somebody in my.

Oh, God. Hey, her last name, Gomez. Oh, shh. Name place. Oh, hell. I got something out of there. You know, Ocho, I was thinking about that. Because, you know, as a matter of fact, I was thinking about there.

I was like, man, that was not. It was not, it was nice. Because I had never done anything like that before. Right, right, right. So now, you know, we're going through the country. It's because I've seen movies where, you know, the company, they're staring out the windows. You're like, look, honey.

And that was me. Yeah. Yeah. Look at the cattle and the horse in the countryside. And I'm like, you know, I'm like real touristy. I was into it. Yeah. And, you know, you got to work.

I had to watch out for the pickpocket. I said, hey. Oh, you know, I ain't about that. Hey, I say, bro, I ain't about that. Listen, they're bump into you. I'm not going to get a little mofoals out. They bump right into you and you have no idea what's going on. I was just waiting for somebody to bump me.

And I was going, what? It'd have been too bumped. He bumped into me and then he'd hit the float. I go ahead A little kid Don't come panhandling I ain't got nothing for you Go go ahead on

Don't play with me But you know what Ocho You got me thinking I'm due for a vacation I'm due for vacation There you go And listen to me You know at some point in time

You might have to have a new host For about a month I'm going somewhere for a month I got it I could take care of it all by myself I could run the show I could take care All by myself

I got you Hey I'm better about to come back to O'N, O'clock show, care of your car you on the bulljohn. I lead you in Charle. Bro,

whatever you're out of show. You leave me in charge for me. We're going to, this thing will be pumping. We're going to be pumping. Oh, God, how bursting. Oh, yeah. Yes, so.

I got you. But you know what? You know, Go-Yard. You like, your girl, I know she's like, Go-yard, right? Not that I got a few of their pieces. Now we're talking.

Yeah. They fake, though. No, no, no, no, I got it. They came from Canal Street right there in New York. What Canal Street? In New York? You mean New Orleans? No, they got another one in New York.

Swap me. Yeah, I ain't never been out there. I ain't never been to New York. You got no swap meat, Louis? Nah, nah, no, I can't do that. I can't do that. You know, because what I do is, is when she by her go-yard pieces, I be using them like they mine.

Oh, yeah. I like that. I got a couple pieces ago. We got a couple pieces. I'm saying, but that's Ocho. Bro, I ain't saying go out there and just blurr, but treat yourself. You work hard. Think about it.

No, no, no, no. You work, Ocho. You're working four nights a week. Yeah. Yeah. And matter of fact, I don't even consider it work because I'm actually enjoying what I'm doing. Like, I look forward to Sunday, Mondays, and Thursdays because this is enjoyable. Talking football, obviously, you know, talking about the game.

But then we get into that section about life. Life. And just, like, yeah, this is enjoyable. This is, this is, I can't even really put it into words on how much I look forward to doing this because it gives me, this is my outlet. This is my sense of peace away from everything. This is like me being on the field on Sundays again. Because I know once I'm on that field, I could just be myself. I can let my head down and just go.

And I ain't got nothing to worry, but I could be vulnerable. Like, I'm comfortable. Like, I like being in this motherfucking space. I like that. And, you know, getting nice things and that's all cool. But at the end of the day, I wear it once or I use it once or twice. And then what? The money going down to dream.

That's why I really never been into, you know, all that. Nah, man, I just, it's the same never been to me. You know what? I don't really buy a whole lot. You know, I try to, you know, make sure my family's taking care of, you know, my brother, my sister, my mom, my kids. And so it came, I hadn't really. bought anything in about four years. And so this,

this Dodge, Dodge came out with the, the black ghost. It's the last year of the gas model challenger. They're going to the electric model. And I was like, I remember I was in my financial guy,

my age of Marvin Demo if I was in his office. I was like, look at this Marvin. I said, this is the last year they're making this car. He's like,

they're nice. You ought to get it. I was like, I said, they only made 300 of them, but I'm like, nah, is they going to get it?

He said, let me show you why he should get it. So he turned it around. I was like, I got that much. He's like, yeah, treat yourself. I like, okay, I called a guy, hey, we good to go. He don't know I had already ordered it anyway. Sorry, I said. I like that.

I like that. I like that. You know what I'm going to do? You know what I'm going to do for myself? I promise you this. Every Christmas the past, I don't know how many Christmases has been. I've never done nothing for my shit. I think this Christmas, I'm, I'm going to take your word for this Christmas, I'm going to treat myself to something.

I'm going to treat myself. Something really nice. Because you're making good money. You're making good money with Uncle Ocho. Listen, I'm making good. God, God has been good to me. I made sure I say, hey, I said, look, we're partnership. Yeah.

Yeah, you got me moving. I'm listening. I feel like, I feel like Pablo Escobar a little bit. You hear me? I feel like Pablo a little bit. It's only going to get bigger and better, bro. That's it. That's it.

I'm right here for the lab. I'm working behind the scenes trying to get this thing bigger and bigger and bigger. Yeah. Yeah, listen. When you drop a bag, when you drop 100 bands on wife, you're like, there ain't nothing. I make that up next week. You write, you write by that.

I like that. That's what I'm going to do it. That's why I'm going to do it. I appreciate that. I appreciate you for that. Bro, look. My whole thing was that if I ever got another, a situation where I could help people out.

And you was one of the problems. Actually, you're the only person. That's like, you know, and when people, they say, like, I said, look, I want to do something else and let's talk about it. You know, what if we went live after Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night game? It's like, well, who do you want to do it with? And I said, uh, Ocho. Yes.

And I said, Ocho, Ocho, who? I said, Ocho Siko. It's like, but what if he, what if he says no? I think we should expand the net. I said, no. I said, look here. They said, look here. They said, no, I'm throwing one line in the water. I said, that's the fish I want to catch.

And so, that's all you need. I call Dougie. You know, I know Dougie, Dougie. I've known Dougie 25 years, 20 years. Yeah. And I called Dougie, I said, Dougie, I got this idea. I say, I think Ocho will be perfect for it. Are you interested?

He says, it's funny that you say, Ocho will be in town. I said, can y'all do dinner tomorrow? I mean, can you, we do lunch? He's like, what time I say, this time we showed up. I said, bro, I gave you, I said, bro, this is what I'm looking to do. X, Y, Z. You won't end?

You got the job and you want it. If not, I'm going to somebody. I'm going somewhere else, but I say, I'm going to do this. Listen, it's one thing about it. I love everybody, everybody to death that you could work with. But this dynamic here? Ain't nothing. Ain't nobody else pulling this off.

When you look at the cast of Martin, right? When you look at the cast of girlfriends, when you look at the cast of Family Matters, living single. You can't put nobody else in them dynamics and get the same thing out of it. You just can't. I mean, we got something special

and I'm thankful. I'm grateful. I'm happy. And I'm treating myself Christmas. Because I'm going to put my smart car aside. And for now I'm going to go give me something nice. Get you something nice.

I'm going to give me some nice. I don't know what I'm going to get anything for Christmas because I got my daughter's birthday coming up in October. I got a son birthday in November. He's married now because I say, bro, you got to think. I said, you got to think in terms of family now. You just can't think of. I said, you got a wife and a grand and a child.

I said, you just can't think her, daddy, you know, is my birthday. So you got to think family now. Right, right. The gift that you go get and I got a daughter in men's school that she finished his men's school in May or 24th. So I don't know if I'm going to be able to get myself anything Christmas, but everybody else going to be straight. Listen, you think you got it.

Let me, you know my situation. Mind you, all together, I got 11. Ooh, Lord. Yeah. Yeah, I got 11. When I take care of everybody, I just got brother, sister, mom, and three kids. And I got, you know, and my executive assistant, now I got a staff now. But I think they just want money.

Yeah, you're right. Especially my mom. My sister, Ashbyn over here shaking their head. Shicking their head. Listen, my assistant, my, my sister is tied in with the misses. So she, that's, that's two and one. Yeah.

And then I got, I got, I got, I got my kids. They, they, they, they, they, they, they're not that bad. And then those I have kids from have also been a blessing along the way in this journey. Like, they, they, they have been huge. Now, I don't think they, they, they understand. I haven't really been, I haven't really been, I haven't really been, to be able to, to thank them in general.

Like, they've made, it's possible more than anything. And they've done a wonderful job with the kids, man, and just, and really get me to this point. Right. And really, really helped me get to this point. Man, I didn't do things the right way. I didn't do the traditional way. But the way

I did do them, but the way I did do them, and those individuals don't understand how important they are to my growth and me getting to where I am today. So I'm thankful. Very thankful. Right. We should.

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